What other books are there on energy work that are on the level of these two? Are there any books on chakras and yogic practices on this level?

Bump as I'm also interested, but more in the transmutation of sexual energy
Anyway, two books that come to mind

Red Hawk - Self Observation
P.D. Ouspensky - In Search of the Miraculous

They are not about chakras per se, but have some mentions here and there.

Bump as I wonder if I can use energy work to restore my foreskin

Bump as I'm interested in energy work

>>40701838
I'm interested in this as well.

>>40700158 (OP)
Mantak Chia's books

>>40701838
From my personal understanding Qigong will not heal in the way I think you are thinking of.

notes:
Qing requires celibacy, healthy diet and discipline/training. Without these 3 it is impossible from my understanding and was not accessible to me without them.

Qigong is energy access for the body, once mastered if you focus on an area of the body with breath control you can send energy anywhere throughout the body, this does not heal as one would hope but moreso nourishes the entire body and mind from deep within, into the core of the bones. You will feel your bones intimately like never before, feel inside your muscles with your mind alone. you will have a tingling sensation - and energy bubble you can direct with your mind where you feel it inside you. It can be as precise as the tip of your finger, while training I often focus the energy onto the tips of all my fingers, it feels almost like little micro lightning bolts are connecting your hands to the universe itself.

>>40700158 (OP)
Those books suck ass! You’ll never become an Immortal with them!

>>40703185
>You’ll never become an Immortal with them
Do you know which ones will help one become an Immortal?

>>40703185
Is the reason you're saying that they suck ass, purely because they don't provide a proper path to immortality? If not, please let me know why they suck ass otherwise.

>>40700158 (OP)
There's a 1k+ page book titled Chinese Medical Qigong Therapy: A Comprehensive Clinical Text that you may find of use.

>>40705850
>more jerry alan johnson shilling

>>40705850
Thanks anon

Has any of it worked?

>>40705850
This is the real deal, Jerry's book lays it all out in one go.

>>40700158 (OP)
You tell me
https://drive.google.com/drive/mobile/folders/1wMiUyWg2JnGFCwC36KubXLPRQMRE2dO7

>>40713089
Even If had 100 years I could not read all of those books, thanks.

>>40713089
Lmao wtf.. there's a whole Indonesian folder? With a mujarobat, of course. Well, seems I've found use for the Bahasa I picked up years ago.

>>40713358
It goes faster than you think when you know what foundation the information is adding to.

>>40713372
Do you know a good reading order for novices? Title specific and/or even broad groupings will do: categories, countries, authors, etc.

>>40700158 (OP)
Dr. Yang wrote a whole series of books, not just the one you posted here. How about you start with those?

>>40713477
Like all good adventures, you should start with what appeals the most to you. If you encounter information that is beyond you then search for terms to make them understandable or pick a different book until it explains these key concepts to you.

This is the key of learning anything in this life.

You have been given information people killed to learn and died to protect.

Whatever you choose to do with it is on you.

There are no safeguards when unrestricted knowledge is provided.

>>40713506
>There are no safeguards when unrestricted knowledge is provided
Are you referring to qi deviations?

>>40713547
Among other things, yeah.
This is to learn.
Practice with someone who can teach the practice.

>>40713569
>Among other things
Are you able to elaborate?

I wanted to share the link a year or two ago but I encountered someone who shouldn’t have the tools to self destruction so easily provided.
As it stands I no longer worry about the fools as they won’t read this after their fugue state nor will they remember their own discoveries in the grips of mental illness.

These are the equivalent of surgical books. They won’t make you a surgeon, just teach you enough to be more effective when you enter a surgical rotation.

Be circumspect with what is provided and treat it with the respect warranted to life changing information.
While some information is bullshit others are not and it is up to you to discern meaning and value.

>>40713590
Don’t fuck up a chōd ritual, don’t even try it if any of these books teach it.
Don’t fuck up with your kundalini.
Don’t learn about 6th century daoist teachings and assume that’s the prevailing view.
Don’t fall too deeply into the iching.
Be careful with your chakras, meridians, gates and channels.
If you don’t know what you should be feeling you shouldn’t try it.
If you haven’t gotten the basics down, don’t try advanced work.
You can’t practice intermediate nor advanced work without someone to teach and correct you.

Some things can’t be unlearned and some rituals can’t be undone.
Know your limits, know your boundaries, don’t believe anything and double check everything.

>>40713599
>I encountered someone who shouldn’t have the tools to self destruction so easily provided
Do you have the link?

>>40713670
I don’t care enough to search for them. If you search the word bagua or xingyi in the archives you may find the thread.

>>40713670
Apparently it was in February.
Time had no meaning.
>>39923992

>>40713712
>39923992
>>39923992
https://archive.4plebs.org/x/thread/39923992
>The energies of the bodies are cultivated by a great deal of many people

>>40713745
Yeah that’s the one.
It’s a shame that so many people tried to warn OP about their hubris.

>>40701838
>>40701942
>>40701872
I've been restoring my foreskin since last March. My penis has rollover and I can jerk off using the extra skin now. Check r/restoringforeskin they have 100s of guides or devices. I was skeptical but I don't regret taking the plunge

Pump

>>40713618
pussy. my stroke initated me into tibetan monkhood and i downloaded all the data into my brain and found Jesus. don’t be a bitch.

>>40713820
Why does your penis look like a fat mexican?

>>40714588
Dope

>>40700158 (OP)
Gotta get B.K. Frantzis in there
His newest stuff is mostly via his online programs but several of his books are classics
Opening the Energy Gates of Your Body is his foundational practice
His approach is rather different than anyone else I've seen

>>40713547
When you understand how qi is really formed, there is no more qi dieviation.

>>40700158 (OP)
>What other books are there on energy work that are on the level of these two?
root of chinese qigong is the most basic of books
daoist neigong is purposefully incomplete, there are too many key technical details omitted to be able to practice from this book, it is 100% intended to compliment in person training

>>40700377
>but more in the transmutation of sexual energy
if you use your sexual energy in any sexual way, the de-conversion process is so horribly inefficient that its just pure stupidity to think that one can "harness sexual energy" in such a way
you want to harness that energy, you must leave it the fuck alone

>>40701882
>Mantak Chia's books
entire support forums sprang up in response to people harming themselves with chia's stupid overemphasis on the big draw and sex shit
his fundamentals course is good and his bone marrow book is good, but readers would do well to simply stay away from chia's material altogether

>>40701942
celibacy is not required except at certain stages of neidan
the jing can be pretty much fully restored without celibacy
the reader should not take this to mean he can overindulge in sexual activity, however

>>40705850
JAJ studied some TCM and way overapplied it

>>40713477
>Do you know a good reading order for novices?
you have olfactoryanon's writings right here on /x/, brotha

>>40713618
this is by and large very good advice

>>40716036
the best takeaway from energy gates: just the concept of longevity breathing

>>40716190
i would add to that the dissolving process seems pretty unique as far as I've seen (Damo Mitchell describes something similar at a very high level but Frantzis goes way in depth)
as well as even the concept of downward flow. Maybe its the influence of Yoga, but everyone seems obsessed with making anything go UP, rarely do people talk about making it go DOWN.
You might find advice on "grounding" on the internet but its usually pretty broad. Frantzis again has a whole method for getting the downward flow going which not a lot of people talk about in depth and is the main way to counterbalance the rising forces

>>40716210
>everyone seems obsessed with making anything go UP, rarely do people talk about making it go DOWN.
that's because people want advancement without the work and are too greedy to understand that the proper way is to establish the downward flow before reversing it
its not really that complicated and is encompassed by the quote
"the chi flows where the Yi goes"

>>40716102
That’s not how it works.
You can understand waters composition but fuck up fluid dynamics. Knowing evapotranspiration doesn’t give you insight in the creation and maintenance of a hydroelectric dam.

>>40716264
>its not really that complicated
i think the complication comes more from the fact that people are more culturally predisposed to upward flows.
its not "complicated" per se, but its not really culturally relevant, so people have move work to do to "catch up" on learning how to get the downward flow going

>>40716290
>people are more culturally predisposed to upward flows
its more that people are more culturally predisposed to trying to find the fastest way and consider the fundamentals to be relatively superfluous

>>40716307
This is true as is the idea that people are sensory driven. If you can’t get the same feeling from your practice people will either quit or find a way to make it more intense.
It’s a tolerance issue like opiates but for the spiritual.

>>40716273
Still Qi is like Fire a side effect of chemicals interaction.

So I'm the guy who has to point out the Papyrus font.

>>40716652
hey man it might be silly, but it does look cool

>>40716168
>the jing can be pretty much fully restored without celibacy
i'd like to learn more about this, as most texts say that the amount of jing you have is fixed ("pre-heaven") and cannot be restored, at MOST you can reduce its expenditure, and semen is the largest concentration of jing (one drop of semen is worth 10 drops of blood, so i've heard it say)

>>40716210
>Maybe its the influence of Yoga

The theosophical societies neotantra specifically

>>40716102
>When you understand how qi is really formed
Do you know how it's formed?
>>40716177
>olfactoryanon's writings
Do you know if his knowledge is safe? Meaning, if a novice were to read all his posts, understand them completely, and spend years (maybe even the rest of their life) practicing (and/or perhaps using his term, cultivating), would it be impossible for olfactoryanon's practice (the sum of his teachings) to cause qi deviations? In other words, is breathwork and/or energy cultivation safe from a qi deviations standpoint?

>>40716036
is there merit in his works? dude is balding, pasty and pudgy in all pictures, so I assume he doesn't know his shit. I'm reading through his first volume on water tai chi and I can see some distincly western new-agey ideas influencing him, which makes me even more sceptical. Not a fan of terms like "Taoist Yoga" either, as they would imply some unwarranted connection between the two traditions. Willing and eager to be proven wrong about everything I said tho.

>>40718280
>dude is balding, pasty and pudgy in all pictures, so I assume he doesn't know his shit
lmao what kind of superficial nonsense is this

>>40718208
Most breath work is fine.
Dragon breaths can fuck you up.
I don’t know olfactoryanon.
All movements should be done in 3 6 or 9 movements but not more than that.

>>40718317
Not superficial, not nonsense - I've only met one master who didn't look fit for his age and yet actually seemed to know his stuff. While the part about being bald and pasty was more of a random dig than anything, you can't deny that even in his youth Bruce looked like a real eater. In my humble opinion, it's unseemly for an authority on health to be overweight.

>>40718417
>I've only met one master who didn't look fit for his age and yet actually seemed to know his stuff
who was that?

>While the part about being bald and pasty was more of a random dig than anything
ok then i'll ignore it

>you can't deny that even in his youth Bruce looked like a real eater
does he ever claim otherwise? as you say, he looks to have been fat and bald since... geez you can find footage on him from the 70's and 80's looking big

By his own telling, he broke his back and was able to avoid a spinal fusion and wheelchair/cane via internal practices:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C9zHchdccfc

>In my humble opinion, it's unseemly for an authority on health to be overweight.
>unseemly
so literally superficial bullshit

>>40703949
>>40704145
I suspect anon was being facetious.

>>40700158 (OP)
Dunno about Mitchell - his vids are okay, haven't read the books, but Yang's stuff should be enough for actual practice. There are decent yoga and whatnot books, but they often approach such things differently and there's no point in collecting such stuff, unless just for expanding theoretical knowledge.

>>40701942
Celibacy is not exactly required. It's commonly believed so but things are a bit nuanced. Moderation is what's required. You can be sexually active, but you have to know when to be and when not in relation to your practice and particular exercises. It also depends on how you express your sexuality.

>>40718317
Anon brings a good point. If a practitioner is supposedly advanced in art built upon refining and fostering one's vitality, apparent lack of it should concern. While many practitioners are old and not in a great shape, the good ones still tend to look a bit healthier, younger and move much better than their peers.

>>40718449
Ad.1: Not divulging that, as he has no online presence that I know of, and I would probably be doxxing myself. I got to know him in his capacity as one of the og karate masters in my eastern-european country, but he also trained internal traditions as far as I know. He was able to paralyze my arm for a couple of minutes with a touch near the clavicle. Afaik, he only put on weight after reaching 60.

Ad.2: k

Ad.3: I don't know, I've only heard of him today, after picking up his book to read during my shift. I am new to this internal training stuff.

Ad.4: Again, I don't think it's superficial. John Cassian, the Christian monk and theologian gluttony as the first of the principal faults to be overcome, one that has to be reigned in if any further spiritual progress is to be achieved. Neither the desert father, nor the later followers of the monastic tradition seemed to be after a hot summer body when they were observing their contrived systems of fasting. Rather, the objective seemed to be keenness of mind and a proper attitude of the soul. Coming from the other main wellspring of western culture, we have the greek ideal of Kalos Kagathos, the beautiful and brave, Plato's harmony between the well-formed body and a healthy, virtuous mind, later carried over to the Romans, mens sana in corpore sano, etc. Western culture has long condemned lack of restrain in eating (although I'm sure this is a very simplistic view of the matter), and so I believe one ought to adhere to that standard, if only so that his message be taken more seriously. As far as I'm aware, Bruce didn't claim that obesity is a neutral or a healthy state, so from the viewpoint of his persona as a teacher and a mentor, there is no reason to maintain this heavy weight.

1/2

>>40718726

2/2

Maintaining an unhealthy body mass is detrimental to the cohesiveness of his message and to me signals somebody who has his value system muddled up, oscillating between health and discipline on one end and an overindulgence of the bodily delights on the other.


Lastly, I know what being fat does to you - I've struggled with weight my whole life, constantly sliming down and then putting the weight back on. Having lived in fat, skinnyfat, slim, jacked and morbidly obese bodies, I can without a shadow of a doubt say that being fat messes with your thinking and perception of self-efficacy in insidious ways that you don't even notice until you've stopped being fat. I suppose it's different if you put weight on later in life, however I am fairly certain that somebody who has been fat their whole life is not all that put together in terms of their values, goals, mental models and ways of thinking. Of course, I am biased, and so would love to hear your opinion on this as I find it hard to imagine not caring about a health guru being at an unhealthy weight. I'm genuinely interested, not trying to sound like a jackass here. Going to sleep now as I've just worked 14 hours and can barely see straight

>>40718710
its not a great point, its entirely a superficial observation, and has nothing to do with the quality of the teaching
furthermore, by BKF's own telling he was wheelchair/cane bound due to his back breaking car accident, so the fact that he can move as well as he does is already an accomplishment

>>40718726
>Not divulging that
ok, great, sounds like a karate guy who knows some pressure points

>I don't know, I've only heard of him today, after picking up his book to read during my shift. I am new to this internal training stuff.
so you are literally making superficial observations

>John Cassian, the Christian monk and theologian gluttony
blah blah christian nonsense

BKF talks about training with Wang Shujin as one of his first exposure to internal martial arts. Up to that point BKF was heavily into karate and judo and, from his telling, quite conventionally fit, but after meeting Wang Shujin who was quite heavy (and later in life had some complications from diabetes), made the shift to focus more on developing internal power and less emphasis on weight.

Even looking through his youtube channel, it looks like bruce has fluctuated quite a bit in weight and his tan

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RqGLgi-D2-E

i don't disagree that at his age he should probably lose some weight (it didn't help Wang Shujin), but he's an old man and has been bald and heavy for a long time. If you want to get ripped, stick with karate I guess

>>40718735
>not caring about a health guru
he also doesnt claim to be a health guru

>>40718795
just popping back in as I can't sleep: sure its impressive he can move like that after breaking his back.

Again, I dont think I'm making a shallow observation, Im trying to make sense of an unfamiliar tradition by applying the criteria and models that have served me well up until now in other fields. I have no way of knowing whether his methods are common practice, true to the ancient masters, theoreticaly refined or whatever - I have no knowledge of this field yet. I can however look at the goals that the practice aims to achieve (By their fruits you shall know them, etc...) and from my perspective they seem to be immortality and well-being. Now I've never seen any proof of immortality, whether of the ordinary kind or some subtle body continuation of life. You can however somewhat gauge wellness and health, and among the metrics we have, one of the ones most predictive of continuing well-being are bodyfat percentage and amount of muscle mass. If you're not willing to take care of the mundane, then I have reasons to be highly suspect you're advanced in taking care of the occult and esoteric.

I also find your dismissal of your own cultural heritage quite foolish. Unless you're Chinese, I think you'd do well to lay off the orientalist koolaid for a bit and examine and question the works which shape your thoughts most deeply, namely the western intellectual tradition. Obviously you'll do what you want, but it would do you good.

On another note, he doesnt have to claim that he's a health guru - he's a teacher/master (guru) in a health-oriented tradition.

Anyway, I wont be paying much heed to anything else you say about Bruce or internal alchemy altogether, as you seem to be heavily emotionally invested in this, and not in a good way. I will continue to learn about this fascinating topic from somewhere and someone else, just somebody who doesn't have a stick up their ass ;)

>>40718994
its a different paradigm
its fine if you want to apply what you know about physical fitness, but he's not teaching physical fitness per se, so its not an accurate assessment

>I also find your dismissal of your own cultural heritage quite foolish. Unless you're Chinese, I think you'd do well to lay off the orientalist koolaid
that's such a ridiculous framing im not even going to respond to that

>he's a teacher/master (guru) in a health-oriented tradition.
you have a misunderstanding of the point of qigong and ultimately meditation, then

yes, you will get "healthy" doing these practices, just like you can get "healthy" doing karate or get "healthy" doing soccer

But the point of soccer isn't to get healthy
Nor is it the point of karate
Nor is it the point of qigong and ultimately meditation

Not in the way you are assessing it

>just somebody who doesn't have a stick up their ass ;)
ironic, given that you are self admittedly new to the field, dont know anything about the practices or teachers you are learning about for the first time, but already making surface level observations

stick with karate, it seems like more your speed

>>40719023
well, offer me a counterpoint. Whats the point of qigong if not health? Frantzis certainly seems to have published a lot on it, eg:

>Opening the Energy Gates of Your Body: Chi Gung for Lifelong Health
>Tai Chi: Health for Life
>The CHI Revolution: Harnessing the Healing Power of Your Life Force
>Dragon and Tiger Medical Qigong, Volume 1: Develop Health and Energy in 7 Simple Movements

I'll evwn retract my previous statement. I am willing to learn, sorry for saying you have a stick up your ass. Would you point out my errors and provide the appropriate corrections?

>>40719083
if you're really interested and coming from a karate background i'd say pick up "The Power of Internal Martial Arts".

It not only tracks BKF's personal journey but breaks down the differences between "external" vs "internal" styles, and expands a bit more on how internal arts operate.

A lot of the underlying mechanics of internal martial arts are similar to chigong and rooted in chinese medicine principles

from the chinese medicine point of view, its less about attaining muscular strength or bodyfat percentage targets and more about achieving overall balance in the system and an expression of power/force from the body as a unified whole, supplemented by circulation health, organs, etc etc

as an individual, bkf has always been heavy and has always admitted as such. as he's gotten older (he's in his 70's at this point) its clearly harder and harder to keep his food intake up with how he used to move as a young man

but thats more a criticism of himself as opposed to the practice

that said, there's a lot of lame internal martial artists out there (close cousins with aikido) so if you're just trying to get ripped do karate or brazilian jiujitsu

>>40719023
fat hands typed this

>>40719155
say that to my face in the dojo, punk

>>40716549
hahahahahaha

>>40716903
there's this matter of how much substance a given system may produce
as you get old, your capacity lessens
but this is why cultivate and upkeep the body, so that it continues to produce the various essences well as age advances
its all just slowing the collapse, unless one is able to produce such amplitudes that transformations take place
there's many small transformations that take place along the way
like hitting certain lengths of breath as a matter of regular practice while in meditation
the acceleration of the metabolism is just a thing that happens
but as I understand, if string/M theory relates well enough, then it becomes a matter of energizing to the point where the baryonic matter vibrates at that closed loop level, detaching it from its tether to the spacetime membrane
that would seem to be an esoteric and not necessarily useful physical aspect of what takes place upon enlightenment

>>40719242
from what i've heard bkf covers a good bit of that in his longevity breathing practices
until you've hit certain milestones is all theoretical

>>40718208
>Do you know if his knowledge is safe?
it is anapanasati by other words
mastering this is the prerequisite for cultivating active energy practices
cultivating active energy practices without the balance of stillness is what becomes dangerous and where chi deviations take place
so no, anapanasati should never, ever produce chi deviations
once anapana is so well mastered that its pretty much all sati, that's when the efficiency skyrockets
there are quantum mechanical probability equations that relate well to this
the essence of the setup became that the less that was known about a given event taking place, the probability skyrocketed
not entirely in sequence vs in sequence vs execution at the subconscious level, for the programming is that driven by rote execution
all active energy practices should have minimum the amount of time executed, in stillness afterward
if you do 30 min of some energy practice, do at least 30 min of stillness afterward
this is the way to keep cultivation overall safe

>>40718280
that's what happens when you dont keep up physically and also overdo sex stuff
overdoing sex stuff is the easiest way to ensure you go bald as a man

>>40718692
>Yang's stuff should be enough for actual practice
if you're going to get one and only one book, embryonic breathing tops the list

>>40718735
the dude aint wrong

>>40716903
>one drop of semen is worth 10 drops of blood
I recall it being 100.
>>40718417
>I've only met one master who didn't look fit for his age and yet actually seemed to know his stuff
Do you recall if he looked healthy?
>>40718726
>I got to know him in his capacity as one of the OG karate masters in my eastern-european country
Do you feel comfortable saying which city he's based in?
>he also trained internal traditions as far as I know
Do you recall which martial arts (and energy arts) he practiced? External and/or internal.
>>40719242
>hitting certain lengths of breath as a matter of regular practice while in meditation
Might you be olfactoryanon?
>if string/M theory relates well enough, then it becomes a matter of energizing to the point where the baryonic matter vibrates at that closed loop level, detaching it from its tether to the spacetime membrane
Are you able to elaborate?
>>40719303
>all active energy practices should have minimum the amount of time executed, in stillness afterward
>if you do 30 min of some energy practice, do at least 30 min of stillness afterward
>this is the way to keep cultivation overall safe
Do you know if it's possible for one to avoid chi deviations by following that rule even if they're a novice who isn't being guided by a teacher?

>>40718994
>just popping back in as I can't sleep
no, sit and meditate
if you're tired as fuck just lay down and do breathwork until you're asleep

>>40719340
heh, spoken like someone who has never studied with a master of any of the eastern arts

>>40719345
>Might you be olfactoryanon?
yep, I just hang out promoting the fundamentals here. occasionally I'll toss in some other tidbits, but I try to be judicious with 'em
>Are you able to elaborate?
in string theory, gravitons are not bound to the spacetime membrane and is thusly why it is a weak force, their resonant mode is a loop whereas baryonic matter is open ended and tethered to the spacetime membrane
that said, I'm not entirely convinced that electromagnetism couldnt ultimately explain a lot more than it does, I'm a fan of dollard
>Do you know if it's possible for one to avoid chi deviations by following that rule even if they're a novice who isn't being guided by a teacher?
wellllll...this one it kinda winds up depending on what practices are in question. most stuff is fine. the vast majority of stuff is fine.
neidan is the exception, dont even try it without going to [insert proper country and place with such knowledged teachers] and dedicating your life to it cuz you're not going to solve these riddles on your own and failing can have bad outcomes. but most other things are fine to practice. neigongs, etc, sure, fine. I do stuff, just not the internal alchemy stuff, its too complex a puzzle and the books on it do not reveal enough, at best you wont accomplish anything, at worst you give yourself turbo cancer or a heart attack.

>>40719365
I didnt say one couldnt be advanced and be fat
its just that if everything is done properly, one aint gonna be fat
and let's be frank here, if we had 2 masters of absolutely congruent cultivation and skill and you had to pick one, its simply a fact that most people will think more highly of the man who has kept himself apparently more in check
I understand bk had a back catastrophe and all, but usually its the case whereby if one has had a back catastrophe it is for damned sure in his best interest to keep his stomach flat, not lament he got a little behind and excuse his fatness for it
its just lack of willpower

>>40719419
>not lament he got a little behind
the only ones lamenting are the fools who decide to try to fight a chi master in the streets, where there are no weight classes

>>40719450
>fools who decide to try to fight a chi master in the streets
go back over to crunchyroll and get back to your anime, you're on to logical fallacies and chasing whatifisms that have nothing to do at all with the point that was being raised.

>>40719511
no you actually have no idea what you're commenting on
bkf has been around for decades and "he's fat" is not a new criticism
the question is not whether he is fat because he is unhealthy, the REAL question is whether he used his weight to beat up a bunch of chinese people in the 70's and a bunch of western wimps in the 80's, like the applications in this interview:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YMtjzQ_XV5M

BKF was always a martial artist first and sold to the health crowd because that was the most accessible demographic when he started teaching in the west. many western and eastern martial artists have accused him of literally just throwing his weight around in fights (especially if you are familiar with push hands).

he had some bad car accidents, didnt slow down his eating, and is now in his 70's, so at this point you either find value in what he's teaching based on the quality of the teachings, or you don't

no one arguing about his weight is pushing new ground

All this shit is fake.

>>40719561
back in the day we used to call it bullshido

>>40700158 (OP)
any stuff that gets right to the good shit by chance

>>40718417
i was curious where this old photo of BKF came from. looks like its on isaac kaamins website

http://www.watertradition.net/blog/my-history-with-bruce-kumar-frantzis

he studied with BKF back in the day and as far as i know thats his primary style.

he started a podcast a while back digging into the history of the lineages and teachers BKF studied with and from what i've heard, found some interesting stuff:

http://www.watertradition.net/neijiaquanpodcast.html

if BKF is too pudgy for you Isaac may have the "look" you are going for...

http://www.watertradition.net/about.html

>>40719345
He certainly looked healthy, his skin was a good colour and had less blemishes and wrinkles than you'd expect in a person his age, he also moved well, was energetic and had quite a presence. He had a big fat belly, that's all.

>>40719345
I can say he's in the south of Poland, I can only recall that he practised Karate and Aikido in Japan, some martial art in Vietnam. Regarding the energy arts, I don't really know. My Shihan once made an offhand comment about the dude knowing something like that and at the time I wasn't interested so I didn't probe further.

>>40721674
>if BKF is too pudgy for you Isaac may have the "look" you are going for...
you had a problem finding the main idea of a paragraph in grade school, didnt you

>>40700158 (OP)
Just don't watch porn and don't masturbate or have sex. Watching porn will result in congestion around your prostate and balls and orgasm muscles, that shit is awful for your overall health, all that mental edging also results in exhaustion.
As for everything else, just breathe heavier when lifting weights or doing cardio to get extra prana in your body and chi buildup. Drink enough water, salt as well. Eat a lot of food that is good, as much as you possibly can actually. Sleep as much as you can, meditate with the focus on the blackness of your eyes, avoid anything that heats up your body such as alcohol or sex or stress. The wim hof tummo breathing hyperventilation will help. Visualising shit with your third eye will increase energy because it draws from the lower energies and as those will get refilled, your body will have more energy stored it in, the crown chakra works just like the balls do, if you have enough semen bulit in your balls, your body has the energy to direct semen creating energy in other places, so is with your brain that governs your whole body, if you supercharge it, the lower energies that power the brain will float inside your body once the brain is powered fully, which you do by meditation, celibacy and visualisation. Visualise enough and you reach levels of remote viewing, dreaming while awake, predicting the future, and ceasing to distinguish what is reality vs what is in your head.

>>40701942
All this work to feel some tingling?

>>40718317
>lmao what kind of superficial nonsense is this
Everyone knows you have to be a jacked/ripped/tan Chad in otder to have any idea of what you're talking about.

>>40719210
Qi is like the grass to earth. The grass need water, sun and nutriment to growth.

Why bloodvessels are fullied with Cholesterol ? What is really Cholesterol ?

>>40723644
That tingling sustain and extend life.

>>40724006
the quality of /x/ is shit tier today, I tell ya

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>>40723644
You should not have tingling.
That’s the nerves telling you something messed up.
It’s why I warned people to not do shit they don’t understand.

>>40730036
You literally said tingling

>>40721674

Thank you for the podcast link, anon

Maybe you should start with something simpler.

>>40731382
I never did, I’m not the retard that thinks tingling is a good sign in qigong or taiji

>>40732384
How do I learn to control the elements? I'd love to learn water bending

>>40727282
>>40729234
>>40730014
if you dont have anything to contribute just let the thread die
the fact is the chigong/internal martial arts scene has been pretty much the same for the last 10, probably closer to 15, maybe even 20 years
are there even any new teachers out there?
its just everyone rehashing the same arguments about the same teachers and the same books that have been out for decades

>>40730036
what are you supposed to be feeling?

Energy Work, by Robert Bruce