God cannot be good if he doesn't use his awesome power to stop evil. Free will isn't an excuse. I am judging God's personal character and it's not pretty.

Free will is the most valid and absolute excuse. Yes it is absolutely. 100%.

>>40704253 (OP)
counterpoint: what if God is not actually omnipotent or omniscient like delusional coping Christians pretend

>>40704253 (OP)
epicurus posed this issue more than a thousand years ago and no one has a legit answer except "muh free will"

>>40704253 (OP)
You're not paying attention.
Are you poor in currency?

>>40704253 (OP)
https://vocaroo.com/1dAIehcVmdof
On the contrary. Listen here to my deepdive.

>>40704363
>Listen here to my deepdive.
No.

>>40704253 (OP)
Based. Free will is just a phrase that sounds nice to emotionally driven retards, it doesn't actually mean anything.

>>40704388
>Free will is just a phrase that sounds nice to emotionally driven retards, it doesn't actually mean anything.

Its not even real in a universe that has an omniscient being in it.

>>40704253 (OP)
Abrahamic morality ultimately amounts to Might Makes Right. God is the most powerful being in existence therefore whatever he wants is good, it's a religion of bootlickers.

>>40704253 (OP)

Evil is part of the design. You just think its bad cuz it hurts your ego.

>>40704253 (OP)
You are God, so do something about it.

>>40704253 (OP)
Which God do you want though?
Maybe the Muslims are right and everyone else is fucked. Or the Jews. Or maybe the satanists are right. Maybe God answers your challenge and arrives on Earth, then sends everyone to hell because the true religion was lost to history 6,000 years ago.
Or maybe King Tut wakes up and now you have to build pyramids and worship cats.
Maybe you're God and you turned yourself into a human and forgot, and now it's all your fault.

I like knowing that human agency will be responsible for our civilization climbing out of the sewers. Might not happen, but if it does it will be because humanity is good - not because some omnipotent faggot in the sky is forcing you to be good.

>>40704253 (OP)
God isn't real.

>>40704253 (OP)
He just pressed play bro

>>40704253 (OP)

Go back to r/atheism with your theodicy spams

>>40704900
>Or maybe King Tut wakes up and now you have to build pyramids and worship cats.
Kek kekerino

>>40704262
No free will in heaven then?

>>40704253 (OP)
>God can't be [what I like] if He won't stop [what I dont like].
Literal child logic.
You may judge God however you wish.

>>40704331
The answer is "there is no external good and evil" - you have opinions, and God doesn't cater to them, so you can have a resultant opinion about God.

>>40705041
"Free will" is a matter of confusion. Though youre allowed to be confused to some extent on most planes.

>>40704253 (OP)
But if he stops evil he can't be good anymore. because good requires evil to exist

>>40704253 (OP)
We're the universe experiencing itself in chaotic creative play with no permanent, ultimate stakes
Evil and even negative physical sensation is entirely relativistic

>>40705276
Complete nonsense.

>>40705556
Off by one haha

>>40705056
then when people remove evil themselves they’re going to make it a power move and flex on you

>>40704253 (OP)
>why doesn't God just force people to use their free will in good ways?!
then it wouldn't be free will? Just watch the ending of "Lost" to see how easy it is for God to bypass all the evil that has resulted from his giving us free will (and hoping we'd use it wisely)

>>40704253 (OP)
>>40704262
>>40705041
>>40705093
Here's a word about 'free will'. It exists, but in exercising your freewill you are inherently wandering farther away from God. You're free to do that to an extent. To a grand extent, indeed. I mean here on this plane you have pretty much unmitigated freewill. But when you exercise it youre wandering away from divinity and if you truly wander far enough away then you will intentionally and totally sever yourself from the divinity. Then, you will remain in darkness forever and ever. So is the way of things.

>>40705556
Can you explain what an existence with good and no evil would look like?

This is why angels dont have much meaningful freewill >>40705718. They're so close to divinity that everything theyre doing is the source of this very universe expressing itself through them.

'god' just means 'good'

this is why humanity is having so much trouble.
>semantics
>tower of babel

its not that fucking hard just understand the real reality is beyond language, the language is only abstractions that can point to the real reality.

>>40705741
semantic/dialectic manipulation is how humanity is kept at odds and unable to attain freedom from government mind control which is done through cultural artifacts like religion/science

>>40705586
You should try to think before posting.

>>40704276
Then it isnt worth worshipping

>>40705030
I already worship cats. Really what would change?

>>40705556
We need dumb people just for smart people to exist too. Thanks for your service.