The full lore and scoop of Tartaria. Explain it to me. Real facts debunking it, proof it existed and/or schizo theories, anything.

Either something fucked up harvesting power from the ether or the people intentionally translated into the ether. The mud flood indicates a catastrophic event and the old pressure gauges were replaced with clocks to demonstrate something very elaborate

>>40739606 (OP)
The Watchers ain't happy so they send mud flood to reset them.

>>40739606 (OP)
>in the premodern era, people actually cared about qualia and built with aesthetics in mind (in religious buildings like cathedrals as well as many others, this was done specifically to glorify God)
>under the modern reign of quantity, those architectural styles have been replaced by ugly buildings designed specifically to be as efficient as possible for capital accumulation
>some Europeans labelled areas of Central Asia "Tartary"
>New Agers and Russian revanchists slapped all this together into some theory that there was a hyper-advanced Eurasian empire whose buildings show a civilization far more technologically advanced then our own, only for it to be destroyed with history rewritten to hide its existence
Tartaria is a complete dead-end. The theory takes a very real phenomenon (the decay of the aesthetic in favor of utility) and reduces it to some half-baked pseudohistory. Ironically, it's a very modernist and materialist reduction of this genuine phenomenon: rather than understanding this architectural change as a visible sign of mankind's spiritual decay under modernity, it presents a vulgar, secular narrative which reduces the spiritual motion to a mere event in technological history. It's pure materialism masking itself under New Age pseudo-spirituality. One obvious deboonk of this theory is the fact that in the modern era, certain religious architects have built cathedrals and various other forms of temples that are just as intricate and beautiful as the "Tartarian" buildings despite lacking this supposed advanced technology. Tartaria is a hack understanding of a very real phenomenon that warrants genuine exploration.

>>40743354
NTA, but I have a question. How did they connect Tartaria with America, then? I keep seeing threads about Tartaria, mud flood, and some fair with paper mache buildings or whatever. Was the empire that big?

>>40743431
As this supposed Tartarian Empire had technology far greater than our own, they were able to reach America and add it to their empire. So yes, they think the empire really was that big. Funny how ordinary people can still randomly stumble upon archaeological evidence of random Native American tribes and short-lived European kingdoms, but this massive, advanced, world-spanning empire has left no trace besides occasional mentions of Tartars (really just a name for Central Asian Turks) on old maps. As for the supposed mud flood, they refer to the fact that a lot of old buildings have doors and windows that are currently underground, hence they were partially buried under a massive "mud flood" that wiped out the Tartarian Empire. Rather than accept that buildings can have basement windows and doors gradually overtaken by debris and gradual changes in the ground level, they imagine some big mud flood wiped out everything. This is really funny when you consider the rest of the theory. Why was a civilization so advanced that they developed unlimited, wireless energy unable to survive a big mudslide? Why didn't they have flight, let alone the sense to take shelter in the higher levels of these advanced buildings? Furthermore, how was this mud flood devastating enough to wipe out the entire empire, but also gentle enough to leave these buildings relatively unharmed? It's all just so stupid, it honestly makes me wonder if this is a psyop to make anybody who criticizes the decline of architectural aesthetics look silly.

>>40739606 (OP)
This is primarily an architecture-driven conspiracy theory. It goes like this- generally speaking, it was economically sensible to build with large blocks of stone... megaliths... large-stone. Part of that was because in the early bronze age, cutting tools and tech revolved around pulverizing work, which permits "softer" items to "cut" the "harder" stones. At this point, the grunt work to move large stones outpaced the cutting work.

As time went on, the mines and smiths made better bronze/copper/brass/iron tools such that embedded cutting agents like carborundum could be used to make cheap quick cuts in stone, gaining access to unused areas in existing quarries.

They also got good at using the acid runoff from mines to build very good agglomerated stone products, similar to concrete and geopolymer. It is essentially dissolving different kinds of sand and gravel together in an acid mix to more or less dissolve it into a mass, then eventually oxidize into a stone-like mass.

The thing is, the stone sizes kept getting smaller, until today, we have mostly hand-sized bricks, concrete, cinderblocks, some engineered stone, and that's about it. It isn't economically reasonable to make a ameritard strip mall out of the best limestone in the area so that the sun tan shop can be beside a smoke shop with megalithic stone buildings.

The "Tartaria" time was the last time in history where it was economically sensible to build with stone so much. The processes had been so refined and efficient that they could bang up a cathedral in about 5 years, compared to 50 years or more back in the middle ages.

As population sizes grew, building lifespans shortened commensurate with the overall lowering of per capita prosperity.

As the old greeks used to say, there first was an age of gold, then bronze, then steel. Gold the best of the good times, bronze the last of the good times, and steel the end times. That's where we are, that's all.

>>40743539
You still believe the world is real
What a retard

>>40744023
You think the world is real
What a retard

>>40743539
>Funny how ordinary people can still randomly stumble upon archaeological evidence of random Native American tribes and short-lived European kingdoms, but this massive, advanced, world-spanning empire has left no trace besides occasional mentions of Tartars (really just a name for Central Asian Turks) on old maps.
Yeah wonder why that is. It really, really makes you think. Meanwhile, Christianity is allowed to spread everywhere in the world, jesuits even send Christian evangelics/missionaries to Asia to preach the word of "god". Something that's been around allegedly 2000 years has spread fewer parts of world than these buildings that for all we know could only be 200-300 years old, so much so they're now trying to infiltrate cultures that have their own religions. It's almost like this Jesus cult is not quite as old as we're told.

>>40743539
its an off-shoot of flat earthism, psyop to discredit real dissent and whistleblowers with a focus on dismantling arguments of the past being superior to now, flat earthism led to anti-intellectualism and misguided "science denial" making christcuck boomers unable to argue against nonsensical ideas of racial egalitarianism and such. tartaria gives them a bunch of nonsensical toys and fantasies about nephilim giants, tesla steampunk stories and cathedrals so they entertained and don't even want to LOOK for any truth anymore.

>>40744344
>nephilim giants
are real, but nice try shill

>>40744350
so is santa claus

>>40744351
I already called you out, you don't need to keep repeating yourself.

>>40744359
tell me again how random victorian buildings in america and the world's fair were made by turkic tribes using christian levitational magic with the help of giants even though you can find dates and names inside of these very buildings and there are records of who built what and why not even 200 years ago. i'm sure its very productive and not a LARP.

>>40744388
>christian levitational magic
Let me guess, you yourself conveniently don't drink from the well you poison, you just guide other people to drink from it

>>40744401
so you're telling me the tartarians DIDN'T have free energy coming from their cathedrals?

>>40739606 (OP)
This guy makes videos about it.
https://www.youtube.com/@ZacharyDenman/videos

tatars are still around btw, and always have been, its just that westerners always referred to them as "tartar" which is how the west referred to all steppe people since forever, there are letters from the pope and kings at the time, referring to the mongols as "tartars" all the way in fucking early 1200s when they were starting to raid and invade eastern europe. the steppe never had much of a name beyond "the place of tartars" because they were and are nomadic people living on plains, until they got 500 different soviet union names.

>>40744467
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tatars

>>40743539
They used the firebird weapon of Osiris

>>40739606 (OP)
There were other kingdoms here, but it also seems like they were a front for hidden history, aka the idea that history isn't real and most of it is amalgamations of people's lives and key points. The only thing we know for sure is Jesus Christ is real.

Worship Him.

>>40744340
Everything about Christianity just feels like it was some kid in the playground making up his own story and lore
It feels artificial like it is not naturally part of this world
Rather it was created within the world
If Christianity is the true religion and that faggot yehweh is the true god
Why does it need other humans to spreads its word

>>40744410
That also implies they were not built for house of worship
Rather Christians found them and then put their gay crosses on them
Saying they built it

>>40744344
But Tartaria is the truth
Are you really so retarded they totally built that without power tools and electricity
We struggle to build structures half as great with modern technology

>>40744665

Your friends are hindoos and satanists and an aphrodite loving tranny.

>>40739606 (OP)
is not real, is basically just a time/map mistranslation, the same way egyptian people called egypt as "kemet", if you asked someone today where "kemet" is they would have no idea wtf u talking about

>>40739606 (OP)
There is no proof Tartaria existed. Most idiots like to claim buried cities which we never found and free masons building over old buildings.
The claim is that Tataria was a civilization before the younger dryas impact which there is no proof off. And there are plenty of civilizations that survived this "event" and from their technology at the time were not that advanced. As much as I like the idea of a previous civilization being wiped away and humanity starting over again there is no real proof of it happening. Plenty of evidence disproving it though.

One thing I'm curious about regarding the mudfloods is whether or not any human remains have been found in mudflooded buildings. If a mudflood happened, I would imagine a lot of people died, but I don't hear about remains of human bodies being found.

Here's a weird one. When they were getting ready to build the new WTC in New York (to replace the ones the Jews blew up), they found a buried ship.

This is a mainstream historian talking about it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OroQBcgLx1Y

How tf did that get there?

>>40744891
when digging anywhere in the west you'll find lost shit, nothing interesting about it. just because there are no official records of it specifically getting lost doesn't mean its not ours, when disasters happen, mistakes and incompetence tend to be involved anon.

>>40744960
You're such a kike. Go away.

>>40745089
fine ill let you larp in peace

>>40739606 (OP)
>The full lore and scoop of Tartaria. Explain it to me. Real facts debunking it, proof it existed and/or schizo theories, anything.
lmao all you idiots in this thread are just feeding chatgpt and other techbro ai programs
it clearly doesnt have enough info on it and needs to bone up on knowledge
if someone is just fishing for info and not putting in any independent effort, assume they're a bot
or worse, a helpless idiot

>>40739606 (OP)
OP we already have a cool fake history thread going rn check it out if u havent already.
>>40721288

>>40744023
>theory
look at the old world architecture in real life its really there and we really didnt build it under the stories recounted to us in school history curriculum #officialnarrative

>>40745979
dont respond to ai generated posts
i see this pattern on 4chan and on reddit (probably twitter too)
>ai post fishing for info
>ai response to validate it is correct
>people respond correcting OP or initial responders
>information is refined
posts like
>>40743354
>>40743539
>>40744023
>>40744344
very clearly read like response to prompts
over-written, contain most of the right words, but don't quiiiiiiiite connect the dots
this thread is almost certainly being scraped and fed into for confidence and accuracy scores
dont work for free!