Thread 40743868 - /x/ [Archived: 228 hours ago]

Anonymous
7/17/2025, 8:16:52 PM No.40743868
allah-yhvh
allah-yhvh
md5: 5e7980f687189ef558d19cb23c8d0c37๐Ÿ”
Is YHVH and Allah the same person/being?
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Anonymous
7/17/2025, 8:19:58 PM No.40743889
>>40743868 (OP)
this is the equivalent of a jew forgetting his memeflag on /pol/
islam was co-opted by sabbatai zevi in the 17th century and it's been a jewish tool ever since
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Anonymous
7/17/2025, 8:54:34 PM No.40744050
>>40743889
imagine being this retard
you seriously think most muslims are followers of a jewiish anti-christ larper who said sins are good
when 99% of muslims don't know his name nor agree with his doctrine...
also what even was the difference prior to the 17th according to this lol
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Anonymous
7/17/2025, 8:55:54 PM No.40744057
Yahweh is trinitarian and includes Jesus, which Allah does not
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Anonymous
7/17/2025, 9:01:20 PM No.40744085
>>40744057

Brainlet take: Christian Trinitarianism is platonic metaphysics. The jews and Muslims understand the abrahamic god through a platonist lense as well. Muslims understand Allah through the same ontological emanations that Christians do they just dont call the second and third hypostases the Holy Spirit and Jesus. The words are different the ontology is the same. Why are Christians always so deadbrained when it comes to their own theology/metaphysics
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Anonymous
7/17/2025, 9:04:08 PM No.40744098
I believe the word Alla has the same root as Eli.
Anonymous
7/17/2025, 9:07:20 PM No.40744115
al1
al1
md5: 03fdddf874dfb19809e3397bfa0646ec๐Ÿ”
>>40743868 (OP)
Anonymous
7/17/2025, 9:18:12 PM No.40744168
>>40744085
>Angry for no reason
>Muslims understand Allah through the same ontological emanations that Christians do they just dont call the second and third hypostases the Holy Spirit and Jesus
Mainstream Islam (as in ops pic) would not agree with this.
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Anonymous
7/17/2025, 9:25:33 PM No.40744201
>>40744168

I lay no expectation on exoteric mundane religious practitioners to understand the ontology of their theology. However, I do expect anybody willing to make statements about theology to be able to engage with the ontology and metaphysics behind their theological statements. Mistaking doctrine for theology is a common mistake for the ignorant and religious entertainers, but if you make a statement on theology you need to be ready to be challenged on it by somebody who is actually studied and versed on the theology of the abrahamic faiths.
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Anonymous
7/17/2025, 9:27:38 PM No.40744212
>>40744201
You have a big ego and type alot to say basically nothing
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Anonymous
7/17/2025, 9:31:09 PM No.40744229
>>40744212

big word hard. me no read. make me feel bad. you big ego cuz u educated.
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Anonymous
7/17/2025, 9:32:23 PM No.40744237
>>40744229
You are insufferable
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Anonymous
7/17/2025, 9:37:29 PM No.40744266
grayons
grayons
md5: a40cdf91e2c2ea912dda635c46ceccb3๐Ÿ”
>>40744237

i dun unnerstan da werd u say. u bad maann
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Anonymous
7/17/2025, 9:38:38 PM No.40744271
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1750541914564562
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>>40744266
What you say is inconsistent with mainstream Islam and you gave no example of what exactly i got wrong about the Trinity
You type for the sake of typing
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Anonymous
7/17/2025, 9:44:37 PM No.40744300
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1748742954734992
md5: ce54279d029427993f0c0b7389373e81๐Ÿ”
>>40743868 (OP)
Anonymous
7/17/2025, 9:46:50 PM No.40744310
>>40744271

its not inconsistent with Islam but the average muslim doesn't study or understand their own theology or philosophy they just follow the doctrines of the faith. Ibn Sina's al-Ilฤhiyyฤt min Kitฤb al-Shifฤ is the core metaphysical text on which Muslim theologians and philosophers understand Allah's relationship to the creation and he outlines a triunal emanation that necessitates itself following that is similar in structure to Plotinus' Three Hypostases, the Jews Supernal Triangle, and the Christian Trinity. The common thread between all three of these trinities existing in God's relationship to the creation is all three metaphysical developments are built upon Platonic metaphysics.
Anonymous
7/17/2025, 9:49:03 PM No.40744319
>>40743868 (OP)
Both are ideas of a god that evolved from an older common idea of a god, that had evolved from an even older common idea of a god, etc. It doesn't even matter if there is any god or not. Deciding if they are still the same god or two different gods is subjective, there is no real anwser. It's like pouring some blue paint in two buckets then adding a little yellow in one and a little red in the other, not everyone will agree if these are still blue or if they have become different enough to be considered green and purple.
Anonymous
7/17/2025, 9:49:52 PM No.40744322
>>40744050
lol seething jew got named
Anonymous
7/17/2025, 9:52:12 PM No.40744334
No, they're different dieties from the period of Semitic polytheism.
Anonymous
7/17/2025, 10:04:15 PM No.40744407
>>40744168
Fuck the mainstream of anything
Anonymous
7/18/2025, 1:07:55 AM No.40745613
YHWH
YHWH
md5: ce3a3921e88ea0749490fa11379e5c83๐Ÿ”
>>40743868 (OP)
Yup
Anonymous
7/18/2025, 5:57:02 AM No.40747094
>>40744212
he's trying to flex his "high verbal IQ" on you, we just call it pilpul on here because that's all they ever use it for
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Anonymous
7/18/2025, 6:03:37 AM No.40747134
>>40743889
>believing his followers desperate cope that he converted only to fix it to expand your jewish conspiracy theory
nice
Anonymous
7/18/2025, 6:07:28 AM No.40747157
>>40743868 (OP)
>ion know about allah dat.. nohweh
>yahweh...
Anonymous
7/18/2025, 7:02:58 AM No.40747386
>>40747094

let me dumb it down for you.

man who liek jesus say god is three. man who liek mohammed say god is three. man who liek circumcision say god is three. all three men jews at end of day.
Anonymous
7/18/2025, 7:14:31 AM No.40747439
>>40743868 (OP)
>Is YHVH and Allah the same person/being?
"Allah" is just the Arabic word for "God." You're basically asking if you can call YHVH "God."

So like... I don't fucking know... do you want to call him that?