Hello. I am a seeker with some knowledge and I will judge whether you are on the path (towards awakening) or not. Answer the following questions and I might be able to paint a general picture.
A: What are you seeking? (Describe please)
B: What are you doing to find it?
C: Give me some wisdom from your own mind, can be long or short.
Thanks for participating, you will get small words of advice if you answer.

>>40752472 (OP)
Why do I need pearls of wisdom from a kissless basement wizard with zero life experience?

>>40752514
What does life experience benefit, when we will all be judged and enter eternity one day?

>>40752514
I can heal your soul.

Utopia. The suffering is too great and unequal. The tragedy of existence goes on and on. I ask God if he counts our tears, if he seeks justice for the innocent, yet he remains silent. And how could he? There's no going back. There's only me here, talking to myself, speaking with dreams, yelling into the void. I have to see it for myself. I have to see to it that there's a God that sees us.. No matter how long it takes.
Observing patterns.
I have nothing you can call wisdom. I'm a fool

>>40752719
My perception tells me you don't fully believe you are a fool, and that's the problem you must work on.

>>40752741
then you don't know me

>>40752745
I know you well. You have detailed thoughts that you have had and opinions that you hold. Become a true fool. Don't think about how you are a fool. Embody the fool in yourself. You just now directly disagreed with me. As if you know something better. Clear to me, is that you think you know something as you just showed. But you don't. You really truly do not know anything. You have not stepped onto the path to knowledge.

>>40752770
Fuck this shitty larp

>>40752776
Yeah I guess these words take you to a journey towards truth and your sinful heart disrespects me for that.

A: Meaning beyond my subjective interpretation of reality.
B: Attempting moderation in all things, trying to let my spirit guide me, and leaning more heavily into love and compassion for humanity, however the latter is proving to be difficult.
C: It is not a sin to question.

>>40752820
Can't paint a good picture. Can you elaborate further on part C?

>>40752833

Everyone is always so sure of themselves when they try to explain the way things “really” are to people, if you question the status quo, or the way things have “always been” you are often lambasted as a fool or at worst cast out entirely. To put it simply, nothing is black and white, despite how much we want it to be.

>>40752472 (OP)
A: Wealth and power
B: Pretend if I half ass meditate and think hard enough it’ll happen
C: If God knows your every thought, does it read like a book or experience it simultaneously with you?

A: Permanence. I am under the belief that our individualized selfs/egos are not guarantee to be immortal and if proper steps are not taken we run the risk of dissolving and losing ourselves forever.
B: Mindfulness meditation, learning lucid dreaming, all-day awareness training, proprioception, and really anything that involves strengthening the ego/consciousness.
C: Freedom never comes through surrender.

>>40752770
All i see is a know it all, admonishing someone for knowing themselves. Roleplaying the Master with sophistry. You hold out the word "fool" as if it is a trophy and act as if you know what paths and knowledge are. as if it's something there and not here. Enough

A: Political power one day
B: Just studying I guess, networking
C: If I think I'd regret not doing something, I do it.

>>40752881
Aha ok. Well, I think you're almost on the path.
>>40752889
You need more desire to achieve something.>>40752904
This is made up, and poorly thought through. Not on the path. Sit down, half an hour, and just think about everything especially spirituality.

>>40752912
Not that bad. But I don't think you're on any path.

>>40752910
I didn't attack you. I tried to help you. Perhaps I did.

>>40752472 (OP)
1.Everything
2.Nothing
3.Everything and Nothing are only true

>>40752962
You are not on any path.

>>40752969
Good. I'd rather be blissfully lost in the wilderness than on a path made by another. Thank you.

>>40752973
There are true paths made by themselves, they do not require any "maker", they just exist for us to tap into. Work on your earnestness.

>>40752956
by informing me that I'm still being a fucking fool by reaching out on basket weaving sites yeah. Yup, really driving my foolishness home. Welp, back to the void. Where I can "embody the fool in yourself" some more. Meanwhile, people are still dying in the gutter. But ah well, I guess I'm too foolish to know if they exist or not. Too foolish to have a heart.

>>40752986
Did you ever feel this deep passion for something spiritual?

I'm seeking to be in the place where I can make amends with her, love her, cherish her, and be worthy of her. No matter what I walk towards that path.

>Wisdom
The most defining years are the first.

>>40753096
Missed part B:
>What are you doing to find it.
Hoping. Believing.

>>40753096
Ok, who is this "her"?

>>40752472 (OP)
A: I seek true, transcendent Good and Wisdom. Not the mundane or even accoladed, what lays furthest beyond our understanding but the absolutes or the closest we can envision of them, for I believe Good is a true, multiverse constant or force, and Wisdom to be one of its forms.

B: I ask more questions than most have answers or patience for, I seek meaning in things well further beyond most have or can extrapolate, not simply seeking to learn but to Understand/have true Understanding.

C: Purpose is an illusion. As is Belonging. They are two sides of the same coin, polished until we mistake their glint for truth. But it is folly to think they can pay the debts of Life. They are the Great Illusions. The greatest illusions. We cast them upon ourselves, insisting not only on their validity but their importance, telling ourselves that all Journeys have an end, that there is somewhere waiting for us beyond the horizon. They are cruel, in that they will smother the fire inside you, root you to soil unfit to grow, and still command everything of you. That is not living, it is servitude in golden chains. To complete an illusion is to become its prey, its victim.

heka shi'irma, OP?

>>40752472 (OP)
>What are you seeking: nothing
>What are you doing to find it
Living
>Wisdom from your own mind
Things of the natural world don't have to seek things out to know what they are. They intuitively know their role and play their part. People would be a lot more happy if they did as well.

>>40753105
The only person I ever loved.

>>40753106
I feel like you still think too much, too much like a mundane person. Sit down and just think about higher things for half an hour each day that will help you. Curious, what is your philosophy or faith?

>>40753111
If you aren't seeking anything at all why come to my thread?

>>40753121
That's horrible. Try to believe in something beyond petty human existence.

>>40753139
I'm already self-realized. If you've already found yourself and know your place in the universe there's no reason to seek further. I was trying to see if you'd pick up on it.

>>40752472 (OP)
A I want to be left alone and enjoy my time
B im avoiding people
C people bring their bullshit and aren't worth the trouble

>>40753154
Hm interesting. You didn't give me any real vibes of someone that already found. I want to test you, to see for myself, if you are open to that. What is god, what is enlightenment?

>>40753175
First of all, ouch.
Second:
God is all things. He is both the dreamer and the dreamed that is this universe.
To further elaborate in case you don't get the analogy Just as when you dream you are both the world and the inhabitants within it. Within a dream you still play your role (you experience it in first person), but you're still also every other person and thing in that dream as well as the intelligence conceiving it and making it a reality.
Enlightenment is realizing the above.

>>40753202
So you're an advaita Vedanta follower, or just inspired by it?

>>40753211
Bit of both. I've studied the esoteric side of christianity, kaballah, and hinduism and have the requisite spiritual discernment to understand the truths underlying each of them as I come across them. I have experienced the formless bliss of ego death (death wouldn't be the right word here since I still play the role of myself in lila), but at the time the ego melts away and all you're left with is the sat chit ananda (existence, consciousness, bliss - i know you know, but for those who may not) described by the vedantists in samadhi.
Advaita vedanta strikes true for me and any time I feel myself getting pulled too much into mundane life I can just focus on the consciousness behind the observer mentioned by advaita vedanta and instantly feel that samadhi again.
I seek nothing because I already am everything. I'm just playing the role I'm meant to play and enjoying the ride/experience.

>>40753264
Tell me more about this formless bliss, is it constant, or just when you invoke this samadhi? I have felt immense bliss before as well but it was only short-lived, once when I could enter samadhi it was present for a good while but I currently can't enter it, that's what my goal is.

>>40753285
My answer again is a bit of both. The formless bliss is only when I enter samadhi, I have not achieved sahaja samadhi which to my understanding is the endless variant you mention. However there is a lingering contentedness and bliss state that lasts a long while after entering samadhi which again I can do at will.

It's my turn to ask the question to hopefully help you reach it again. Why can you no longer enter it when you used to be able to? What changed and what have you done to attain it in the past and what are you trying to do to attain it now?

>>A: Helping to advance mankind without notoriety
>>>B: 8-11 hour meditations at night
>>>>C: Iron sharpens iron, as man sharpens man

>>40752472 (OP)
I'm not looking for anything, I'm sitting and waiting for a miracle (Isekai, like in anime), which doesn't happen and it's doubtful that it's even possible.
Why...?
Well, I'm from Russia - all the experience of my life and the dead generations of people who lived here indicates the impossibility of arranging an acceptable or normal life regardless of the efforts made, and the exceptions are unique people with outstanding abilities for something or rare lucky ones.
If I make efforts to arrange economic benefit for myself, then either it will require being a very bad person and causing a lot of harm to others, to whom I do not want it, or my work will be extremely poorly paid to the extent that it was with my parents and their parents (they lived on a piece of land in the already modern area of Moscow, from where they were resettled to a five-story building, allocating an apartment of 40 square meters for 5 people, now of those who were resettled only my mother is still alive, and I will never in my entire life be able to buy even an apartment in the place where I have lived all my life). As for the spiritual and other things... have you seen what is happening here with these ghouls, who have perverted everything they have reached? Here, thousands of false prophets swindle money, curse each other, and priests pray for murders in churches, mothers send their children (and husbands) to their deaths in order to buy a car or an apartment, performing a "delayed abortion", and almost any job is either a crime or exploitation, just like from old propaganda posters.
And what "growth" is there? I like the phrase "To be born a human is a miracle, to remain one is hard work".
So I will either wait for a miracle and be able to live normally, or I will simply die, not necessarily from natural causes, but with the certainty that I have no contribution to the horror happening around me.

>>40753321
I used to be able to because I took a fast road, which broke me, and I got schizophrenia. Then I was in the hospital because of what happened at the psychosis and one month long I didn't meditate so the concentration went away. And since then I have not been able to replicate that fast method, however better now is that I am doing focusing on breathing, that's the safer method and I'm already almost there again I believe.

>>40753345
Tell me more about these meditations please. Iron sharpens iron is not from your own mind as I have asked so I blacklist you.

>>40753382
I feel you. Try to sit down and think hard about everything that bothers you for half an hour a day.

>>40753285
Just realized my reading comprehension needs work. I was under the impression you'd experienced the formless variant, but you just said immense bliss, not formless.

The two most intense times I'd experienced the formless variant were both when I was regularly doing the middle pillar exercise of the golden dawn tradition. It has a lot of direct analogues to kundalini yoga and after my experiences I firmly believe it contributes to an awakened/enlightened state due to kundalini awakening.
The first time I felt the formless state was by accident after taking a hot epsom salt bath after doing the middle pillar exercise. I think the heat and buoyancy of the water helped the body experience it because it took my weight away and the my skin had acclimated to the water temp so it was almost like one of those float pods. With both of those gone and the bliss from the middle pillar I felt everything fade a layer deeper and everything disappeared into the sat chit ananda.

The second time I had an enlightenment experience was when I was doing the middle pillar in my car before work. The bliss came on super strong and a direct message from god showing me the amount of love that goes into each and every thing in the universe. The experience was directly felt rather than a voice in my head or anything like that. The example I lived through was every single blade of grass had a million different things that had to happen coincidentally to actually prosper. The seed has to land in fertile soil, happen to get enough sun and water, avoid being trampled or eaten, etc etc. And yet there are millions of blades of grass all prospering because love and god (as love) directs the process to ensure it happens as it's supposed to. And if he's that involved in even the growth of a single blade of grass, how much more involved with us. That experience gave me direct insight and feeling into god and when I let the ego fade away I can experience that love and bliss again working

>>40753392
Have you ever experienced transcendence of ego, or just bliss?

>>40753457
No, transcendence of ego would mean to me that I have no attachment anymore. I felt bliss only. I always had and still have some attachment. But this bliss was very sublime, it felt like auspiciousness imbued directly into my heart.

>>40753623
I know what you mean re. That auspiciousness. I can feel it at will and even feel it now. It's that feeling that lingers after the transcendence.
Describe the breathwork you're doing to me. I'll see if I can give any tips to make it more impactful if I don't fall asleep.

>>40753647
Yeah I will. I practice half an hour of pranayama from time to time, I breathe in, hold for as long as comfortable, breathe out. Repeating that for half an hour at a time.

>>40753662
What are you focusing on when you breathe? Just the breath? Are you doing any energy work as you breathe or just breathing in and out with a different cadence?

>>40753673
I focus on nothing in particular.

>>40753673
Just breathing in and out, everytime the same thing.

>>40752472 (OP)
A: entertainment
B: nothing
C: Don't make thread evaluating strangers on the internet.

>>40753673
I gotta head to bed but I'll leave you with these suggestions feel free to take them or ignore them.
1: implement energy work with your pranayama. Just focusing on the breath doesn't get you as far. The breath carries energy with it somewhat naturally and focusing on it calms the mind and allows you to not focus on errant thoughts so that's why it's regularly recommended as a starting point. You're probably more advanced than that.
Cycle your energy up the spine to the crown chakra on the exhales and back down the spine on inhales. Let it be where is rests at either the crown or root on the holds.

Quickest way to attain samadhi is tuning into the observer. As you breathe in you experience the act of breathing, but don't focus on that. Focus on what is experiencing the act of experiencing the breathing. Keep following the chain to the observer who is not acting and feel the energy of the observer. From there tune more and more into it as you fade away. Ot shouldn't be too many layers deep and once you feel it once it's very easy to tap in again even during day to day life when not actively meditating or doing breathwork. Just focus on the observer of the one riding the bus, or paying for groceries etc. The consciousness actually experiencing the thoughts rather than the thoughts themselves.

If you're having trouble doing either of the above I recommend the middle lillar exercise. As you can see from my testimony I have first hand experience that it works for enlightenment via kundalini activation. I recommend the book the middle pillar by isreal regardie as a primer on it. You have to practice the cabbalistic cross for a month and then the lesser banishing ritual of the pentagram for another to build your energy body before you're ready for middle pillar, but it's worth it. It is more impactful if you study qabala during this time, I did but I'm mot sure if it's necessary to or not.

Hope it helps and Good luck!

>>40753711
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>>40753133

Honestly I’m not sure if it has a name. I suppose you could call it something like post-absurd mystical Pragmatism. While I am no longer affiliated with the Christian faith, I do certainly believe the words of Jesus are particularly potent and worthy of remembering. I love the wisdom found in most religious texts I’ve had the luxury of reading, as well as the secular and the mystical/metaphysical. I don’t believe in a personified God but certainly acknowledge there is no way we are actually the pinnacle of this universe, let alone those which we assuredly cannot comprehend or perceive. I’ve found comfort in the Stoics, in Nihilism, in Existentialism, in Absurdism, in Platonic and Socratic philosophies and many others. I believe no man can call himself an independent thinker unless he willingly challenges his own interpretations and beliefs, regularly. I believe neuroplasticity (or specifically losing it,) is largely a myth, that Curiosity is a forgotten skill, and not just a gift, and that Wonder is sacred and powerful.

I guess it’s fair to say my beliefs and faith or lack thereof are both as wide as the horizon, and twice as deep. If I had to distill it to a single sentence: He who treads many paths understands The Map.

>>40753946
You know what, you actually seem to have achieved something. Not insanely big, but somewhat, something. My respect.

>>40753946
This is good, but my advice is contemplate more. Start meditating. Meditation is the gateway to freedom from illusion. If you want, you can meditate like stoics or other, mystery school ancient Greeks meditated. It was also practiced in ancient Egypt. But you need to do it.