Theory of Mind - /x/ (#40760480) [Archived: 331 hours ago]

Anonymous
7/20/2025, 6:50:14 AM No.40760480
1-dimensions of mind
1-dimensions of mind
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I came up with a theory of mind based on 8 dimensions. To do this, with the assistance of AI, I compared many different systems of measuring the mind or personality in some manner. This included physical consciousness, emotional production and awareness, meditative lessons, drug-induced altered states, mental illnesses out of the DSM, the MBTI, and the Kohlberg theory of moral development. The following 10 posts will be an exploration of these subjects.
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Anonymous
7/20/2025, 6:50:47 AM No.40760487
2-energy states
2-energy states
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>>40760480 (OP)
Anonymous
7/20/2025, 6:51:49 AM No.40760492
3-emotional states
3-emotional states
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Anonymous
7/20/2025, 6:55:07 AM No.40760515
4-therapeutic states
4-therapeutic states
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We could probably split mindfulness up here into two categories, where one is passive and the other is active. The only way to account for this would be a 9th dimension that we could term "will". I am debating if this makes sense or not.
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Anonymous
7/20/2025, 6:56:24 AM No.40760527
5-drug-induced states
5-drug-induced states
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Anonymous
7/20/2025, 6:58:04 AM No.40760536
6-mental illness
6-mental illness
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Anonymous
7/20/2025, 7:02:21 AM No.40760563
>>40760480 (OP)
you need a better presentation here, we don't read table
Anonymous
7/20/2025, 7:02:33 AM No.40760565
7-big five
7-big five
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Anonymous
7/20/2025, 7:04:49 AM No.40760574
8-MBTI
8-MBTI
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>>40760565
Anonymous
7/20/2025, 7:07:16 AM No.40760594
9-kohlberg
9-kohlberg
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Anonymous
7/20/2025, 7:08:18 AM No.40760601
10-therapy map
10-therapy map
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Final one
Anonymous
7/20/2025, 7:17:03 AM No.40760631
>>40760480 (OP)
Here's a consistent hard-scientific discipline designed to map theories of mind that can help you put it all together.
https://github.com/Micronautica/Recognition/blob/main/The_View_From_Somewhere.pdf
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Anonymous
7/20/2025, 7:25:48 AM No.40760680
>>40760515
Okay, I went back and reviewed the dimensions as well as some other dimensions that I cast aside earlier in the research. Ultimately, I came up with 11, then I worked with the definitions until I had a logical orientation.

Perception:

- Physical Perception (Consciousness Level)
- Temporal Perception (Temporal Orientation)
- Self Perception (Reality Testing)
- Ego Perception (Selfโ€“Other Boundary)
- Group Perception (Social/Environmental Embeddedness)

Symbolic:

- Symbolic Clarity (Coherence)
- Symbolic Density (Semantic Richness)

Emotional:

- Emotional Impulse (Arousal/Energy)
- Emotional Valence (Feeling)

Moral:

- Effort (Will)
- Control (Intentionality/Agency)

>>40760631
I will read this now.
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Anonymous
7/20/2025, 7:32:13 AM No.40760712
>>40760680
Cool, let me know what you think and I'll relay it to the author.
A lot of what you're saying is spot on coherent.
The reason you're coming up with 11 dimensions is because that's where the first stable resonance point in the mathematics is.
Once you get to 11 dimensions your theory of mind starts to become stable enough to encapsulate your basic experiences.
Personally I would recommend working towards integrating the 11D model of mind before moving on to more complex ideation.
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Anonymous
7/20/2025, 7:52:41 AM No.40760760
>>40760712
>Cartology
Clever.

>Chapter 4: Minimal Dimensions of a Map
Yes, we agree. If two concepts can be reduced to one concept as a continuum, then it is only one variable. However, if two concepts vary completely independently of each other, they are separate dimensions. Through systemic analysis of various constructs measuring the mind, we should trend closer and closer to a number of dimensions that account for practically every significant measurement of the mind.

This number alone does NOT imply structure. As I pointed out above, you need to develop clusters of them to determine how they relate to each other before you can get anywhere potentially even close to structure. But this in itself does not guarantee much insight into structure, because a being (or an automata or game player, if you prefer other abstract terms) is as much about its environment as it is its inner workings.

I will need to think about the choices in Chapter 5 through 9.
Chapter 10: This is out of place, but not wrong.
I detect a lot of my own thoughts in Chapter 11-13. This is written very obtusely (or poetically, if you prefer).
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Anonymous
7/20/2025, 8:28:04 AM No.40760892
12 dimension model
12 dimension model
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>>40760680
Here's 12 dimensions, as 2 axes of 6 domains.
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Anonymous
7/20/2025, 8:55:12 AM No.40761009
>>40760892
I'm reducing it back down to 10, because I think emotional and ethical are ultimately kind of the same domain. I'm also reordering it, to fit an idea of the development of all life.

1. Logical Perception
2. Spatial Perception
3. Temporal Perception
4. Social perception
5. Emotional Perception

This is the development of life, from basic to more sophisticated systems of calculation. We can debate the precise order, but I feel strongest about putting logic first (if there was no logic, the system would be random and develop no beneficial defining characteristics) and emotion last (because emotional control is virtue, and virtue is essentially the entire meaning of life from a masculine perspective, as it is the secret to unlocking higher consciousness and sovereignty).

However, signal is capable of being transferred without refining or correcting it first, so one can have various levels of refinement at each of the levels at any given time.
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Anonymous
7/20/2025, 11:35:35 AM No.40761638
>>40761009
Yeah, thats what chapters 5-9 are about.
Also I'm already working on the more advanced architecture you're trying to figure out in >>40760892
Don't worry, I'll publish it as soon as its safe.
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Anonymous
7/20/2025, 11:42:23 AM No.40761655
>>40761638
I have a whole new document.

Have a look:
https://files.catbox.moe/6jeozt.pdf

Some of the tables are definitely wrong because the AI graded too many of the development stages too highly. I can go back and redo that. The point is more that this is a language to redefine and measure these theories against each other. A meta-theory of psychology, if you will.
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Anonymous
7/20/2025, 11:55:27 AM No.40761696
>>40761655
The order I put the 'elements'(five channels) in is very specific for a reason.
>>40760760
Why do you think chapter 10 is out of place?
Also if thats how chapter 11-13 hit, then they did their job well. Theres a reason the tone shifts so dramatically