Thread 40786981

Most spiritual people have gotten this all wrong.

The problem with "just loving everything" is that you currently don't know the difference between what's real and what's unreal. There are unreal things which you think are real.
So by trying to love everything you end up loving unreal things, and that actually holds the illusions together and keeps you in darkness.

One does not need to try to love something real... When you see something real you WILL love it, that is the natural reaction. In fact, I would say that's what love IS. Love is actually just a synonym for "real", it's your souls knowledge of what's real.

So when you feel love/joy/excitement toward something that means you are looking at something real.
When you feel disgust/anger/hatred it means you are looking at something unreal.

Those feelings are coming from your souls knowledge of higher truth. Feelings are not arbitrary, it's your soul speaking truth.
But so few people listen. Most people want their ego to TELL their soul how to feel, rather than their soul telling their ego about higher truth through feeling.
If you stop trying to think that your ego knows what your soul should be feeling, and instead just listen to what your soul already knows (bad or good - real or unreal), then it will guide you home. And yes, this does mean that it's ok to acknowledge when you feel bad. It's not healthy to pretend you feel good about things that naturally make you feel bad (because they are unreal things).

>>40786981 (OP)
I agree that forcing loving everything doesn't work, because tomorrow someone parks 10" from your car and you can't open the door. I don't agree that bad things aren't real. If they weren't then you could love everything.

Is it wrong to love everyone but not like what they do? Like if you have a child that does “bad” things you don’t stop loving the child, you try to discipline them to be better.

>>40787103
>Is it wrong to love everyone but not like what they do?
It is a cuck mentality which a lot of people have, not just with their children. It's how striving for "peace" in the middle east results in endless war for 60 years.

>>40787113
yeah, but their weakness is your advantage.

>>40787121
>yeah, but their weakness is your advantage.
In a way, but they also think all non-cucks are psychopaths, not just real psychopaths. It's complicated.

>>40787113
You can still love your enemies and understand their point of view but still defend yourself against them. I’m not saying to be a cuck and let yourself get killed I’m saying you can manipulate, or try to understand their thinking to get what you want.

>>40787156
Lol he loves his enemies. Ignore him. Oh no we can't. he's part of Christian cult and can shove it down our throats.

All Christians will goto hell. And Muslims and all religious people.

>>40787161
I’m not really Christian, I just want humanity to stop the Zero Sum Game before we kill ourselves and at the same time I don’t want to be under a technological police state so that humanity can be “good”. I guess instead of using the word love it’s better to use the word understanding.

>>40786981 (OP)
AGREED
DOWN WITH CIVILITY
DOWN WITH COMPROMISE
DO YOU KNOW WHAT MONKEYS DO WHEN THEY FEEL UNFAIRLY TREATED THEY FUCKING RIP YOUR COCK HANDS AND FEET OFF
RETURN TO MONKEY
RETURN TO AFRICAN TRIBALISM

>>40786981 (OP)
Everything is real though.
That's a whole argument.

>>40787161
only god is in heaven for only god is good
this is the luciferian secret

>>40787510
people are all like nothing is real
forgetting everything is nothing

>>40787161
There is no conflict, hence, no enemies.

>>40787521
One could argue that biology has developed a good/bad - pleasure/pain dichotomy to further survival.
Your hard-wiring having categorized experiences into good and bad and informing your consciousness by coding them as disgusting, painful, warm, cold.
Consciousness would just navigate through an internally created matrix of experience coded into negative and positive feedbacks from nerve signals.

>>40787539
>One could argue that biology has developed a good/bad - pleasure/pain dichotomy to further survival.
We don't just argue it, it's considered fact. Evolutionary psychology or even just biology.

I've gotten not-mainstream religious and think evolution is most likely somewhat guided, but it still happens on its own. If you don't have aversions to things that will easily kill you, you are ngmi or pass on genes.

>>40787608
Basically, god is working miracles through complicated scientific systems, he is far above cheating, so if god intervenes, the intervention is through a cosmic backdoor already implemented before the dawn of time
So when people witness miracles they are urged to seek knowledge and understand the miracle not just accept it as such

So we (re)produce good and evil, culturally (and evolutionarily)
I have noticed that people fail to bridge the gap between faith and science, and jump to the conclusion that they are opposed

>>40787502
Love =/= civility
This is the problem with your kind. You think that if "love" as we know it didnt exist, everything would go to shit. Just the love "goddess" simps trying to give any validity to their existence as if they were the gravity that held everything together (they are not, just brain chemicals personified).
This is the same kind of bullshit Athena used against Ares; ruined his reputation so she could pretend to be the "civilized" warfare, even though strategic warfare is still Ares domain all the same by virtue of it all being the same.
In fact when you think about it, this kind of verbal warfare is the one that Athena would ve in charge of lol

>>40787174
Me too, but how do we get over there are just bad people that can’t be changed?

>>40787623
>Basically, god is working miracles through complicated scientific systems, he is far above cheating, so if god intervenes, the intervention is through a cosmic backdoor already implemented before the dawn of time
I know a lady god, she picked me to help change some things. So yes and no.

Like pints of beer...
Contains it well until...
You can't stomach it...
Then its done...
Like a glass up turned...
No more...

>>40788100
I think it’s a balance, you know you sometimes need bad people or should I say sometimes you do need to be a bad person. If we were all become or bred to be only “good” we will become like cattle or a dodo bird. I guess you have to have to intelligence and balance and I know it’s kinda hard to do. I’m not trained in such matters.

>>40786981 (OP)
>The problem with "just loving everything" is that you currently don't know the difference between what's real and what's unreal.
>So when you feel love/joy/excitement toward something that means you are looking at something real.
Wot?

>>40786981 (OP)
>When you see something real you WILL love it, that is the natural reaction. In fact, I would say that's what love IS.
So love is loving something.
You dont know what you are talking about.

To love truth is to hate liars and self-deceivers.
To love life is to hate those who exploit and destroy it.
To love everything is to hate those who hate everything.
To love the future is to hate those who rule the present.

>>40786981 (OP)
Love can be a drug like all other desires, but new age worship it hard because they love indulgence and hate judgement
Love is not superior to wrath, I'm glad to see someone else understands it. Feelings are more real than bullshit logics meant to appeal to public opinion
Judgement and hate is not condemnation and murder, people are just too weak to feel these emotions without chimping out

>>40791023
Also, to not judge is to not have discernment or individuality
For the ooga boogas who will mention distorted new age buddhism ideas:
YOU DON'T BECOME THE OCEAN BY DISSOLVING IN IT
TO BECOME ONE IS TO HAVE THE SUPREME INDIVIDUALITY, NOT TO DISAPPEAR LIKE AN "ENLIGHTENED LOBOTOMY"

>>40786981 (OP)
>If you stop trying to think that your ego knows what your soul should be feeling, and instead just listen to what your soul already knows
Doesn't the soul also expresses itself through the ego, but in this case, through an ego in conformity with the true will?

>>40791590
what do you think it smells and tastes like down there in between those cheeks?

>>40791023
>>40791042
Based the self is neither real nor unreal nor both nor neither

>>40791710
As above so below
As within so without

>>40791615
Like the mysteries of initiation