How exactly do deals with the devil work? - /x/ (#40792818) [Archived: 6 hours ago]

Anonymous
7/25/2025, 12:34:25 PM No.40792818
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This is something I've been thinking about a lot lately, after watching a video about the story of a man who makes a deal with the devil and his lawyer saves him.

During this, I came up with four main questions:
>Is the devil like a magic genie?
After watching that video about outsmarting a genie, this question was added: Can the devil play with the wording of your wish and transform it into something completely different?
Let's say, “I want a million dollars.” “Okay, but I'll give you a million Cambodian dollars.” “I want a million US dollars.” “Okay, but it will be a million one-dollar bills.”
And so on. Will he try to screw you over in some way or another? Will he try to trick you and have fun with you?

>How does he make the deals happen?

Let's continue with the example of the million dollars. Here, he correctly interprets what you want: 100% legal US bills, etc., etc. But where does he get these bills?

Does he just make them appear out of thin air? Are the numbers on the bills now in the central bank's database, making the bills 100% legal? Or does he take bills from different places to give them to you? Like, out of nowhere, $400 disappears from a Swiss bank vault, $200 disappears from someone's wallet, bills disappear from X place, and so on until he has a million dollars for you.

Or does it change the possibilities and situations of the universe in your favor, so that instead of giving you a million dollars in cash, it gives you an object that may be worth a million dollars, changes the fortune of the world and you win the lottery where you win a million dollars, changes an event where out of nowhere a mysterious man hands you a briefcase with a million dollars for no reason, or things like that?
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Anonymous
7/25/2025, 12:35:33 PM No.40792819
>>40792818 (OP)
>What are his limits?
Something that has always made me wonder: what limits does the devil have in fulfilling his deals? Let's say, “I want to have Superman's powers,” or “I want to go live in the Pokémon world,” or “I want to make X fictional thing come true,” things like that, or even travel through time, change history, modify events, or break the laws of physics.
“I want to have the blueprints for a perpetual motion machine that generates more energy than it consumes,” or “I want to have a machine that allows me to travel between black holes,” or “I want to have a vehicle that can go faster than the speed of light.”
Would deals with the devil have limits on these kinds of things? Or would the idea of changing the universe in your favor to get what you want apply here?

4- What are the rules?
I imagine there must be certain rules, norms, statutes, etc. for making a deal with the devil.
If I want X thing, I have to give up my soul, that's obvious, but is there anything else involved? Does the devil have to follow certain rules or do things within a certain time frame to get your soul?
“I want a million dollars, and I want it to be granted within an estimated time frame of at least 7 months to a year from this contract, where the devil can come to harvest my soul after I get my million dollars within the written time frame, or if the requirements given in this contract are not met, it will be nullified, and I can keep my soul along with the money I have been able to obtain from this deal.”

Basically legal garbage. Could this work here? Hire a good lawyer and have them draw up a killer contract so you can play with the devil using his own laws and regulations?
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Anonymous
7/25/2025, 12:42:57 PM No.40792839
I consider Ishtar and her cultists to be devils. They never actually even try to even get your consent or awareness - they just drag you even if it all goes against your will and convictions. Its like for them if you get hit by any of their magic work you are fair game and that's it.
So I had every reason to hate that stupid cunt and her ilk. Always did.
Anonymous
7/25/2025, 12:49:14 PM No.40792848
>>40792819
Supposedly the devil doesn't have the power of creation. Most of the supposed deals you hear about boil down to manipulating probability and quantum states rather than actively creating. Yes, musicians count here. The devil doesn't write music for you. You're still writing the music.
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SneckoAnon
7/25/2025, 12:53:30 PM No.40792868
You have wrong understanding of devil deals. They don’t work in reality. Only those deals signed in dreams work
Anonymous
7/25/2025, 12:57:41 PM No.40792878
>>40792848
Basically, the devil just changes and modifies situations so that what you want to happen happens.

Like the million dollars, as I said, instead of giving you the million, he creates a situation where you manage to get your hands on the million dollars and thus fulfill the deal.
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Anonymous
7/25/2025, 4:29:46 PM No.40793485
>>40792818 (OP)
People tend to wish for things they want, thinking that they know what they need. In the million dollar example, let's say it has to come from somewhere so money disappears from many poor families making their lives even harder or puts them in a fatal situation, a selfish person wouldn't care so let us do the flip. Let us say getting the million dollars brings you in the spotlight and some robber kills you and takes it. You thought it was good but it got you killed, is it really good?
Anonymous
7/25/2025, 4:36:07 PM No.40793510
>>40792818 (OP)
He's an elitist first and foremost. If Satan can't use you, then you're useless to him. Theres a lot of "color" added to the concept but the basic idea is this. He seeks certain people out with certain qualifications and will break them down to nothing to destroy their confidence and then rebuild them into a shitty human being. Then, he will use you however he sees fit, completely disregarding your emotional or physical well being.

He hates humanity and is the ultimate crab in the bucket trying to keep every other human down.

All he can offer is things that ultimately do not matter, a.k.a things within thin material realm. He cannot offer the things that matter most and the things that matter most, he has pushed so much propaganda against to get people to fuck themselves over without him really needing to do much.

Its a lose lose situation.
Anonymous
7/25/2025, 4:37:30 PM No.40793516
>>40792848
>the devil doesn't have the power of creation
>>40792878
>he creates
retards
Anonymous
7/25/2025, 4:41:02 PM No.40793533
>>40792818 (OP)
its more like
>I will need something in return, details to follow
or other such ways of not explicitly detailing out what's to be given in return
and then when the demand comes and the person is shocked at it
he is reminded about what he actually agreed to
its little different than the courts and lawyers fucking people over with language
its always important to be very specific
but better off not trying to get them to give you things you dont deserve and havent earned in the first place.
Anonymous
7/25/2025, 4:42:16 PM No.40793538
>>40792819
>Would deals with the devil have limits on these kinds of things? Or would the idea of changing the universe in your favor to get what you want apply here?
some things like these extra-ordinary examples require so much energy potential that literally nobody has such vast energy potential to even give you
Anonymous
7/25/2025, 4:44:59 PM No.40793550
>>40792848
>The devil doesn't write music for you. You're still writing the music.
Lol, no youre not. At that point when you're a big names, you're part if a hivermind and they write for eachother. Fuck off, glowie.
Anonymous
7/25/2025, 6:23:45 PM No.40793919
In the Grimoire Verum you offer the devil your sold for 20 years of wealth and fame. But he refuses, as it is not yours to give away. Instead he gives you the riches but says you must pay him 1 coin for the rest of your life, if you don't he gets your soul by way of default rather than offering.
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Anonymous
7/25/2025, 6:32:59 PM No.40793944
>>40793919
1 coin per week*