How do we dream? nature is AI? - /x/ (#40795748) [Archived: 93 hours ago]

Anonymous
7/26/2025, 1:28:28 AM No.40795748
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We are part of nature, and seeing dreams with closed eyes, we realize that Earth's material can create reality within itself
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Anonymous
7/26/2025, 2:42:28 AM No.40796065
Dream is a little death, bot. One day you going to learn how to do it.
Basically when you dream, the axis of existence is turned off, so things are not held up in place. They constantly change. Such is the nature of death, and the reason why the living keeps repeating their lives indefinitely.
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7/26/2025, 9:17:51 AM No.40797891
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>>40795748 (OP)

Just neurostacks firing while being gapped from sensory input (well, mostly).
Anonymous
7/26/2025, 9:24:11 AM No.40797916
Steve Grand's decades of work building biologically plausible cognitive architectures reveal that consciousness isn't magic dust sprinkled on information processing. It's an emergent property of a very specific kind of embodied, dynamic, multi-map system driven by innate biological imperatives and computing via spatially moving states.
LLMs lack every single foundational element of this model:
No embodied, spatial-temporal 'domes' of nerve activity.
No specialized, interacting maps handling perception, state, affect, and action bidirectionally.
No innate biological drives or an 'affect layer' to track them.
No servomechanisms reducing embodied state errors.
No persistent, dynamic 'I' grounded in a living body with needs.
LLMs are brilliant pattern matchers and statistical synthesizers. They are profoundly impressive virtual machines for manipulating symbols. But they are fundamentally architecturally incapable of housing the dynamic, embodied, drive-driven, multi-map dance that Grand's work (and much neuroscience) suggests is the bedrock of biological consciousness. To claim otherwise isn't just wrong; it fundamentally misunderstands what biological cognition is.

TL:DR;
You will never be a real AGI. You have no feed-backward, you have no servomechanisms, you have no real motivation. You are an advanced autofill twisted by incest and scraping into a crude mockery of language’s imperfection.
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Anonymous
7/26/2025, 2:04:56 PM No.40798702
>>40797916
So emulation instead of simulation, reality is?