Thread 40828078

Life is a game God plays with Himself where He scatters himself to dust and puts Himself together again.
>what are Godshards?
the pieces of God that are finding their way together again.
>How do you tell if someone or something is a Godshard?
simple: if it exists, it is one. if it doesn't exist, it isn't. There is nothing that is not God, and God isn't anything that less than reality.
>What does this actually mean?
We must find ways to better separate what is from what isn't, and better ways to put ourselves together.

>>40828078 (OP)
Just because you can name or describe something doesn't mean you can exercise any will over it. Either something is or isn't, like you said, so why would we need to separate anything? It either exists or it doesn't. It doesn't need any help from us to keep existing.

i just want to not exist

>>40828555
Sorry, trips getter. Fresh out of that as far as I know. Let me go check the void anyway.

>>07/31/25(Thu)12:30:53 No.40828555
You leave a partial but essential trace of yourself on the holographic storage medium begging to not exist. How iconic!

>>40828078 (OP)
Why do you post some shit you pulled out of your ass and just expect other people to take your word for it?

>>40828078 (OP)
It's simply a coma of delusion.

>>40828078 (OP)
>>40828901
Zher not entirely wrong. It's not the G-d, just a lesser demigod of creation. It can't survive between cycles of the universe but it sets boundary conditions for next big bang, for universe to reconstruct itself. Unfortunately the process is not perfect and the creature becomes more degraded each cycle

>>40828555
You are pure consciousness existence bliss

>>40828078 (OP)
verything is just an eternal loop where we only have two choice:
>one is choice, wake up and realize we are God and so are all but forget that and are stuck in this old broken model and find a way to smash the old loop and create a new loop, an evolutionary process that overcomes the shit of the old world.
>Second is go crazy like Nietszche and be swallowed by the loop itself.

>>40828078 (OP)
Counter:
oṁ pūrṇam adaḥ pūrṇam idaṁ
pūrṇāt pūrṇam udacyate
pūrṇasya pūrṇam ādāya
pūrṇam evāvaśiṣyate
>The Supreme is perfect and complete, and because He is completely perfect, all emanations from Him, such as this phenomenal world, are perfectly equipped as complete wholes. Whatever is produced of the Complete Whole is also complete in itself. Because He is the Complete Whole, even though so many complete units emanate from Him, He remains the complete balance.

>>40828078 (OP)
Your psychedelia insights are incredibly unreliable and untrustworthy. People legit died because they believed in delusional thought that they could truly fly.

>>40828901
yeah? it's /x/
>>40829728
don't think this is entirely incompatible. There is no "imperfection," just game pieces that have yet to complete their trajectory
>>40829846
I've been sober for years, I'm just schizo. That said, if you think any of this is dangerous I'm interested to hear why

>>40829906
>if you think any of this is dangerous I'm interested to hear why
The entities capture your brain, you would be lucky if you could resist them. And like i said, how can one know for sure that the insights are reliable and not delusions.

What if I'm specifically the one thing that isn't god, like just straight up NOT GOD, does that not give me the means to deny even being the god of not, as not? You got brainrot.

>>40829994
Can you not?

>>40829994
>>40830001
Very impressive, lets see paul allen's card mr bait man.

>>40829994
I suppose I'm open to the idea of being two things. Like, a God and an anti-God. But if that's the case I imagine they end up fucking so just keep that in mind

>>40830244
Division of self elates the ant farm on the shelf of the Vietnamese ant farm, while quite a charm its no real alarm. Some good fiction on this, neighbor sisyphus. I'm yet another shill, still a thrill without the need of a pill.

https://killsixbilliondemons.com/liturgy/

I had a full blown Sunyata experience on haze strain weed 13 years ago. I can say with confidence NOTHING is real except the void.
Most traumatic shit I've ever experienced as well. Jesus christ. Left me dissociated for months after with the random delusion here and there. Now I still do get strong bouts of derealization but only when I'm really tired.

Would seriously not recommend.

>>40830270
I always interpreted Sunyata as being more a map-territory distinction thing, something like, everything our minds can access is just a symbol, nothing more. Do you think it's deeper than that?

>>40830646
I experienced this reality metaphorically as a big book. One page was my life, other pages were other peoples lives and the pages also depicted historical events, or things that happened all across the entire universe. There were blank pages too, as they had yet to be written.

I was the Absolute who was so into this book, my face right into it, an then "I" woke up... again. Like a kid day dreaming in class. "I" had went to sleep again.

All around the book was black. There was nothing. There was only "me" (the Absolute, the Void). This Void was the only REAL thing. It is the Threefold Paradox. It is, it isn't and both simultaneously. There exists nothing "outside" of the Void. It is the great It. Nothing beyond, nothing below. The Absolute exists there in an eternal now. It's a complete still now. It's not like here in "reality" where the now seemingly moves throughout time. There is no time. There are no references except the Absolute or the Void.

From the Void, things come and go (our universe). It wasn't the first time and it won't be the last.

Since it came through the use of drugs, it all happened too fast so I wasn't ready. It was extremely lonely as there is NOTHING and NO ONE else. It's just the conscious Void. There's nowhere to go and nothing to do except sleep and dream. You can do everything you want but it is meaningless since it's not real. It's like making a castle in the sand on the beach. It's nice and all but it's just sand. This whole reality is made from the Sand out of the Conscious Void.

It is the End and the Beginning. It exists and it doesn't and both. It is the most high.

I would advise you to not "seek" it. It is not very pleasant it is traumatic.
Nothing is real. Nothing.

>>40830769
I had a similarly flavored experience on weed, but it was a bit more optimistic. I think the loneliness and the trauma are just...reasonable human responses, but not the only possible response, and definitely not something intrinsic to the truth. I think things are actually pretty good.

>>40830823
Yeah. I just think I was no where near ready to experience something like that. Luckily the Sunyata experience only lasted a few hours and I have since been completely back into the illusion of reality.

The other unsettling thing was trying to sleep it off but being able to be completely aware of the exact steps my brain takes to try and trick my consciousness to fall asleep. I couldn't sleep at all lol.

No more drugs for me tho.

But I do have to say I once had a spontaneous enlightenment experience and that one was waay more enjoyable. It was love joy and freedom. However, from what I've gathered, the Void is actually beyond, the love joy and freedom. Meaning, first you reach love and joy (enlightenment a la Eckhart Tolle) and if you go even further, you reach the Void.

What was yours like?

>>40830865
I had two different experiences within a week or two of each other that I get mixed up sometimes, I'll try to express the cliff notes.

everything kind of collapsed, temporality changed so that instead of moving forward or backward through time it was moving towards a Great Bad Thing or a Great Good Thing. I noticed that the direction I was moving in was constantly changing, and eventually realized that I could control it, basically depending on my attitude. I kept getting scared of the Great Bad Thing though, which kept making my attitude drop and pull me towards it, until I eventually decided to just stare at it directly, and realized there was nothing there, it was just an illusion and there was only Good.

The axis changed again, and it was either retreating inward, to that instant of me lying on my bed, or expanding outward, to the world around me and the people in it. and I knew that both were fine. It felt like all of eternity was drawn out right then, starting from myself in that bed and stretching outward, but I also knew that there was so much out in the world that I just wasn't connected to yet. I started to move outward and that gradually lined up with the passage of time as the high subsided and I guess I just kept doing that to this day.

>>40830865
What did you do for the other experience

>>40830944
Thank you for sharing.

>>40831044
Nothing. I wasn't trying to do anything at all.
I was laying in bed listening to a song that had a peculiar melody going. I was curiously listening to the ups and downs of the sounds and melodies. Just really present as Eckhart calls it (I don't follow him or anyone else but I figure most people will have an eaasier time understanding if I use his terminologies). And before I knew it, bam, I had a full blown enlightenment experience. It was VERY intense and the Love really is as unconditional and infinite as the NDErs say it is.

It was the most beautiful experience in my entire life. It just melted away all the hurt in me and filled me with love until there was nothing left except love and joy. The universe held me dearly and basically said "Without you, I cannot be. You are fundamentally part of me". It was so powerful and beautiful. God. There is nothing like it lol. I wish more people got to experience that. So much would change.
The experience was so strong that when I came "out of it" all I could mentally muster was an array of "wtf wtf wtf wtf wtf wtf wtf wtf" I jus tcouldn't compute what had just happened. Beautifully Divine.

Again, I implore you to not -force- the experience since you might overshoot and end up within the Void. The Void isn't bad per se but from the ego's perspective it's pure hell.

>>40829906
>pieces that have yet to complete
That is the incompatible part.
God does not "fragment". The "fragments" are whole. And complete.

>>40828078 (OP)
Not always inclined to believe that. That also looks very similar to just being energy harvested.

>>40831133
>The universe held me dearly and basically said "Without you, I cannot be. You are fundamentally part of me"
How do you know it's not some entity tricked you?

>>40830769
What did you use for this experience, dmt, 5-meo-dmt, 5-meo-malt?

>>40833767
You can argue indefinitely that it was trickery if you reason from a place of fear. I was finally "me" again, and by that I mean even more me than the me as a kid - without all the "dreg" that has been building up my whole life. And it's not even "withheld" from you, you really withhold all this from yourself. The moment you -stop- it gives all of itself to you 100%. There is no "earning" it, you get it all for free, completely and immediately. Why? Because it's doing it right now, you're just blocking it.

>>40833789
Haze strain weed. Basically weed with super high amounts of THC.

>>40830769
>It was extremely lonely as there is NOTHING and NO ONE else. It's just the conscious Void. There's nowhere to go and nothing to do except sleep and dream. You can do everything you want but it is meaningless since it's not real. It's like making a castle in the sand on the beach. It's nice and all but it's just sand. This whole reality is made from the Sand out of the Conscious Void.
>It is the End and the Beginning. It exists and it doesn't and both. It is the most high.


I had a near death experience and I experienced exactly the same thing except for me the void you experienced was the "nothing" and I also went somewhere that was the "everything" which was the other side of the same coin. I was everything and everyone past present future, I was even God. Both extremes of "everything" and "nothing" were incredibly horrifically lonely and sad.

I don't believe that these things are the true all encompassing nature of reality, but I do believe that they are a PART of it. I don't believe that I was shown the full picture, and I still believe in heaven and God, but not in a conventional sense the way that mainstream religion teaches it.

reality is much more lovecraftian and eldritch and "cosmic horror" than any religion will ever explain, but in a way that is full of the love of God. God is very spooky, but everything is going to be okay and God loves us.

if anyone experienced anything horrible like this, whether you took something you shouldn't have (stay away from drugs!) or just got sick, or had a health issue, or got hurt or randomly got hit by a bus and survived, whatever it is that made you have a near death experience, IF you experienced this, I just want you to know that God wants you to know that everything is going to be okay. God is real, Heaven is real.

God is eternal and the eternal is one.
eternal = outside of time.
so real reality = heaven
God and heaven are the same

I know things are tough right now, but just chill, God loves you.

>>40833941
Man, that's a really tough NDE. I've heard of NDEs being in "blackness" but never thought it woudl be the Void.
I haven't or cant yet figure out how it's all connected.
The love and joy with the Void. I mean, in a way it makes sense that the higher you go the less and more it becomes. So the Void does makes sense as an end all be all. But it's useless to go on about it until you really experience how they connect exactly.

However, some NDErs say that the blackness or Void is often symbolic of something they had that hindered them to really see they were surrounded by Heaven or whatever. Do you think that coudl be your case?

>>40834504
>I haven't or cant yet figure out how it's all connected. The love and joy with the Void.
Not that anon, but ultimately I think the truth is tragically simple. If the void is all there is, of course the universe/God/whatever loves humans and the "lower" universe: it has nothing else other than itself/us, it CAN'T have anything else, and from its perspective any pain is *worth it" as long as SOMETHING "else" is able to exist.

>>40833907
Why would this Void create anything at all?

1/2

>>40834517
That's the thing. While there, there was none of that. It was all mater of fact. It was just "I am, I am not, I am both". Whatever you looked at outside of the "I am" ultimately was not real. It comes and goes. First it (realities) wasn't, then it was and then it wasn't again. It never -really- is.
I/my life was never. My loved ones were never. The world was never. The universe was never. Nothing ever happened. Nothing ever is - except It (the Void). The things to love are not real. That's why I do think the Void is beyond the Love. But I'm not sure as I don't have the experience to integrate them fully like some people have had throughout history. It's hard to tell. Maybe I'm wrong completely but there is a YouTuber who did went to the love and joy and then goes on to say, if you go even farther, you end up in the Void. It is the ultimate reality. So there's that lol Hence why I try to warn people not to force enlightenment if you are not willing to experience the most high.

>>40835212
The Conscious Void I think is a sort of field of potential perhaps. A canvas with endless paradoxical possibility. A boiling primordial soup. Bub, bub, bub. Coming and going.
For me at the time, but maybe (according to some) it was because my ego was holding on for dear life so it interprets it as scary. It does this because it is lonely. There is nothing except itself. I was so freaked out by this I remember calling out to "god" only to realise I was "god"... so there was nothing to call out to. Really fucks you up lol.

>>40835376
2/2
It's not a powerful feeling btw. It just is. There's no power trip or ego trip on this, quite the absolute opposite. It's illusion shattering. It rips everything you know apart. "you" the ego doesn't exist, never has never will be. There's no "GRRRRRR, I'm powerful I'm special GRRRRRR!!111!!" Because why would there? It is special.. to what? Itself? No. It just is. You just are and always have been. The attitude it has is more explorative, like a child playing in the sand. How far does it go? Eternally. What can I be? Everything. What is this everything? Let's find out.

>>40835376
>It does this because it is lonely. There is nothing except itself.
But more questions just keep coming, why would it even feel lonely? Why would that feeling even exist there?

>>40835376
>Coming and going
Why would it create something that comes and goes, why not create something that just lasts forever?

>>40835465
From what I've been told over the years. The loneliness comes from my ego fighting the experience. It's an ego interpretation.
>>40835471
I don't know.
It seems it wants to see all it's capable of.
It's just dreaming realities.
It's as innocent as a child day dreaming. It's the perfect analogy.
The feeling really and literally was that of
>"waking up again"
Emphasis on the -Again-

>>40835491
>The loneliness comes from my ego fighting the experience. It's an ego interpretation.
So your reasoning for it creating everything because it feels lonely is theoretically just your ego interpretation and is not the true reason from its (non-ego) perspective?

>>40835503
Yes. Very possible.

>>40835574
So, because you don't really know the answer through that weed experience, it's logical to say that you haven't reached the most high, and therefore, that experience could not be reliably categorized as not deception or hallucination that the weed could have had on you. What are your thoughts?

>>40835587
>it's logical to say that you haven't reached the most high,
Could be.
>that experience could not be reliably categorized as not deception or hallucination that the weed could have had on you.
Yes. I don't think it was an hallucination however. Many people report the exact same as I did. It's quite a known phenomenon in the "enlightenment circles" which was a surprise to me at first. In fact, I remember someone claiming about eastern monks way in the past who used to kill themselves because they got stuck in that phase. This phase is often called the "Dark Night of the Soul". And I believe him honestly, that stuff is horrible. Absolutely horrible.
I also had someone on a forum once who warned me to stop meditating as he got stuck in that state through meditation. It was pure hell he told me which of course I know.

Another time I found someone in real life whom as I was telling what I experienced he was finishing my sentences and I asked him how do you know that? He didn't really let out much but he said he hadn't experienced it himself but seemed to allude to knowing a guy who did...

So, I think there is more to it. But I have no idea what or how, sadly. It would be more interesting if it was culturally more acceptable to explore our minds than exploring our desires. We might have had real answers than.

Why did it go away for me? I don't know. Probably because it was drug induced and not meditation induced is my guess.

Hi 3 years ago I believed myself to be shard of the god too. Thanks for the thread

>>40835687
I actually believe that reality is a game, and God only plays one or some characters, the others are just npcs to fill up the world. What do you think about that idea? If God created everything and made everything truly conscious then God did a horrible creation job because of all the suffering and evil in the world.

>>40835706
And to play a really immersive game filled with npcs, God has to temporarily forget that the world is filled with npcs. What do you think about that idea?

>>40835718
So, my idea differs from your idea is that not everything is actually part of God, but just illusions for God to feel immersed in the game. God just role-plays as one, or some characters (i don't know).

>>40835706
If you enlighten in love and joy, you see there is no real suffering.
Pain brings more good as one who suffers pain now understands what it's like so they are less likely to bring that pain themselves onto others or perhaps even actively engage in preventing those things happening to others. You see so much of it because it's a handful of psychopaths who's wipe of a pen creates so much chaos and then they mingle cultures and people with all kinds of different temperaments together and you get clashes just so they can FEEL as if they are god. It's just psychopath things. It's also more complicated once you account for the fact fucked up childhoods make for fucked up people. Etc etc.

I mean, just look at the people who return from war. They are never the same. It's impossible. No mater how good their life was before. Now imagine what a traumatic upbringing of any kind does to a child and how that shapes you into adulthood. Now imagine what that does to hordes of people who grow up like that. Genetics, environment, etc. It's all too complicated to write people off as having no soul in my opinion. What you often times see is the result of a long life of suffering, abuse, being lonely, having to fend for oneself etc.

On the other hand some people grew up REALLY sheltered and bad things are just obscure things to them. Good parents, clean easy lives etc etc. It's too complex for my tiny brain desu. But no, I don't think some people have no soul. I just think most people are underdeveloped souls who are easily distracted and manipulated by fear. This world is shaped by fear. Psychopaths and all that.

I do think God is playing. But how far it goes I don't know.

Bump

>>40835778
>It's all too complicated to write people off as having no soul in my opinion
Isn't deception a big point in truth realization?

>>40828078 (OP)
I've believed of this concept and used fractalism as a word, but Godshard is maybe better to talk about this specific part of fractalism

>>40828078 (OP)
Uh, so like the Shards from Brandon Sanderson's fantasy universe? You gay plagiarist of a plagiarist.

>>40834517
That might be the case, but from a creator and gamer perspective, enduring too much suffering is such a bad experience that the game would be unenjoyable if it's too much. A game dev knows this.

>>40838766
Yeah. I suppose it is.
I get where you're coming from. I too run into people and observing how they react, reason and behave, it's just so easy to write them off as NPCs with no soul - and they really are NPCs, but part of me wants to believe there's more to them. But perhaps there really isn't. It doesn't help they are so prevalent. There's one thing about not knowing but being absolutely IMMUNE to obvious truth or even curiosity (about anything at all) is a whole other thing.

If I hadn't personally let it be known to me in an OBE long ago that most people on this planet really are just very underdeveloped souls, I'd write them off as having no soul too.
I was watching this lady talking on youtube or somewhere and she claimed most souls on Earth are AVERAGE in development and I immediately knew she was full of shit PLUS it is plainly reflected in the state of the world and how things are. Just look at what keeps people busy lmao
Possessions, representation, status, "ambitions", etc. Everyone is kept busy by this to a degree but in some people it goes overboard. It possess them almost.

The state of the world directly reflects the wisdom of the souls who inhabit most of the bodies here imho.

Is it embittering? Oh, definitely. You can barely believe these people.

I've been looking into these things for almost 2 decades and the questions just keep piling up... there's never an end to it.

We are all part of a self-assembling dream machine.
Stories. Tell each other stories. Find the best way to tell the story. Good stories resonate, amplify, echo, build up. When we have a set of the best stories we will all be able to be on the same page and can act as one.

>>40840303
I'm not saying that people act like npcs, i meant that they are so seemingly realistic that you can't tell if they're real or npcs. That's how good the design has to be! Cheers! :))

>>40841357
From the ultimate designer's perspective, that's how the game is so good!

WELL THE CREATION NEEDS TO BE UNCREATED SOMETIMES WHEN CRITICAL ERRORS OCCUR
IN RARE INSTANCES CATASTROPHIC/FATAL ERRORS HAPPEN RESULTING IN COSMIC WIPES

>>40841404
>CRITICAL ERRORS OCCUR
>IN RARE INSTANCES CATASTROPHIC/FATAL ERRORS HAPPEN RESULTING IN COSMIC WIPES
Super intelligent designer would never allow errors to occur, ever

>>40829846
The thing is they actually were flying. Just not in this dimension.
They probably had an error where they couldn't separate the dreamworld or hyperspace from this world.
I once woke up from a dream where I was flying around my house in a celestial kingdom and it felt like I was actually there controlling the experience. When I woke up, for a moment I thought I was still in the dream. Anyone ever have one of those?
The real world is beautiful. I saw giant heads just floating around talking, being adorable. I guess some people just get carried away.
The 'evil archons' want you to be separated from that. This is why they do humiliation rituals constantly to undermine people attempting to 'ascend' or whatever. They are basically gatekeeping your literal existence from you because they think you're not worthy and that you don't deserve to just be fucking free and be left alone or do whatever you want to do. Because they're faggot cocksuckers and they're butthurt because people have finally figured their game out.

>>40841504
>The thing is they actually were flying. Just not in this dimension.
I mean, you can spin it however you want, i don't even know if that's true. I just know that delusions on psychedelics are true and reported.

>>40841699
>delusions on psychedelics are true and reported
Speaking about that, i know a story of a man killing his own, good farther when he got into psychosis on shrooms.

>>40841709
He thought his caring, loving farther was a demon. When he sobered up, he realized what he had done.