Thread 40936822

Which Christian denomination/sect is the one and true path to eternal life?

Gnostic fags need not apply.

>>40936822 (OP)
None of them
Mark 14:51-52
Hail Satan and Hail Lady Babylon!

>>40936822 (OP)
The answer to everything lies in love, and inward reflection. God, Buddha, Ra, etc are all the same thing. "One true" or the idea of correct is ego

>>40936868
>"One true" or the idea of correct is ego
I reject this. If there is no truth how can you fundamentally understand whether a path is the right one to take? As soon as you begin to justify your reasoning it falls down to some "truth". The fixation of absolving one's ego to me seems like a trap for one's own self-destruction and more based in the voyeristic colonial appreciation for the oriental faith systems that entertained the idea of removing ego.

>>40936822 (OP)
The only path is the straight and narrow OP. That is the Way, the Truth and the Life.

>>40936822 (OP)
Worship Jesus.

the catholic church has a long and consistent history as the repository of christian belief and tradition over the millennia

protestants aren't all gnostics, but they open their followers up to infinite vectors of error by breaking off so deliberately (as an act of individual will) from church tradition and authority.

protestant critiques of the church aren't always wrong, but their reflex always seems to be to throw the baby out with the bathwater. i don't feel the same about orthodoxy because the schism was reached through conflict/dialogue between people who understood the tradition, even if slightly differently. not just one person saying "fuck this" and starting from scratch.

if you study the theology of gnosticism, the synagogue of satan, protestant and enlightenment philosophy to modern freemasonry, you can get a sense for how protestantism has actually functioned in history (breaking down barriers, accelerating toward a utopian singularity through man's reasoning and will).
>>40936893
you seem to have some understanding already. read my post in light of that person's response. this is the feel-good perennialist undercurrent that protestants invite by severing their ties to the historical institution of the church

>>40936911
Thanks anon. I respect the chronology that Catholicism presents but I always found their gradual deviations to the faith as troubling and symptomatic of a systemic issue with their doctrine or hirearchy. Yet I do find it interesting that most early Protestant reformation movements were led by men who for their time considered themselves as still being Catholic and merely reforming the church that was "tainted". There was no real desire to burn Catholicism to the ground bar lay preachers who saw the church as a rival power to authority that they wanted to usurp for themselves. Orthodoxy I am uncertain of, but if Constantinople was anything to go by during its golden age I am not too optimistic.

>>40936822 (OP)
Lutheranism

>>40936911
>the schism was reached through conflict/dialogue between people who understood the tradition, even if slightly differently. not just one person saying "fuck this" and starting from scratch.
That's an utterly retarded interpretation of events. Luther was of course extremely well educated and had many debates both in person and through tracts, the Reformation wasn't just something that happened, it slowly evolved and gained more and more traction among people and intellectuals until it became the explosive conflict we remember it as.

>>40936911
>orthodoxy because the schism was reached through conflict/dialogue between people who understood the tradition,

The reasonings changed over the years as the "orthodox" flip flopped on things like the use of icons. The split was more than likely due to politics(byzantines sperging about the HRE)with theological justifications produced after.

>>40936822 (OP)
The ones your ancestors belonged to

>>40936955
>There was no real desire to burn Catholicism to the ground bar lay preachers who saw the church as a rival power to authority that they wanted to usurp for themselves.
but the firm grounding of the church's authority and continuous tradition is what prevents those things form happening in the first place. he would have known how radical what he was doing was, more than we can understand from our modern perspective, where we take for granted moral relativism and enlightenment priorities. whatever his intentions, he thrust europe into conflict and ultimately toward atheism.

>>40936962
but it didn't happen from within the authority and tradition of the church. his credentials are meaningless considering he opened the door to people without his credentials doing the exact same thing. he essentially organized a spiritual coup on european civilization because of his lack of humility

>>40936822 (OP)
I have come to shit in your thread. Hrrrnnngh … (plap).

>>40936822 (OP)
>ENOUGH SHITPOSTI G
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That's my impression of OP.

>>40937005
>but it didn't happen from within the authority and tradition of the church.
A completely subjective and arbitrary statement. The movement towards Protestantism had been apparent for centuries with people like Wycliffe and Savonarola before Luther, only it was oppressed and not allowed to develop. Finally, with Luther, it gained political grounding. As far as the 'consequences' of Protestantism are concerned, i.e. modernity and complete individual liberty, you can just as easily blame the Catholic Church for acting in such a way that an explosive Reformation was inevitable with all of the grievances that built up. When Catholicism is no longer what it once was, slavishly pretending things are alright is far worse than explosive catastrophe that is honestly facing up to the truth of the matter. I detest this cattle-like 'we would have been happier if we hadn't seen the truth and defended our principles' attitude so many retarded TradCaths have. And, at any rate, Lutheran countries were very conservative and doing fine until WW2. If God is at work in history then sometimes you need to accept the bad consequences of good actions. If Christians make moral right subservient to utilitarian judgements then they're no longer Christians.

>>40936822 (OP)
>Gnostic fags need not apply

>>40937212
>A completely subjective and arbitrary statement.
only if you start with the rejection of the authority and tradition of the church as an obvious given. but at that point, you've already surrendered to relativistic, individualized belief.

again, you're bringing modern moral relativist arguments that are rooted in enlightenment/protestant thinking. you're entering this conversation with prior assumptions that bias your framing.

>As far as the 'consequences' of Protestantism are concerned, i.e. modernity and complete individual liberty, you can just as easily blame the Catholic Church for acting in such a way that an explosive Reformation was inevitable with all of the grievances that built up.
i agree with this, but my argument is not about assigning blame, but an observation of the devastating and radical nature of what luther did, and where it directly led (and HOW it led there in particular).

>If Christians make moral right subservient to utilitarian judgements then they're no longer Christians.
not sure what you're referring to, or if you just expect me to agree with you that the protestant revolt against church authority was a defacto "moral right".

i think you don't understand the point I'm making, which is that unmooring civilization from the traditions and authorities that serve as its foundation is about as dangerous a thing you can do. even from an outside perspective, the protestant revolution is a clear turning point in the development of the philosophy that broke down christian civilization

>>40936822 (OP)
Your god is the devil. You will keep coming back here in eternal torment until you wise up or eventually crack and become the scaffolding of this fake and gay universe

>>40936962
>Lutheranism
Based. I agree. Amen

>>40936822 (OP)
Tradational pagan catholiticism. The churches are gone but not immortals lol

>>40936822 (OP)
You have to figure out your own path shithead. Anyone who tries to convince you otherwise is a scumbag.

Catholicism has been compromised fairly often, and offshoots do not seek to reverse that like Lutheranism
Let's not forget that Rome with their city-states (toes of clay) was the power structure that killed Jesus, and quickly compromised by Saul of Tarsus that glowfaggot.
But whatever. As far as catechisms go I've admired Greek or Russian orthodoxy because of their stubbornness with keeping the old time system - though I don't think all branches are necessarily the same for instance Bohemia/Romania or Ukraine/Ashkenaz because history has shown how subversive and conquering they like to be.

>>40936822 (OP)
read the bible, it doesnt say a sect is the path to eternal life.

>>40936822 (OP)
None, Christianity is retarded

any that explains why you need to find your own personal savior in this life and discourages joining death cults promising rewards in an afterlife for deeds performed in this one.

>>40937005
>Just follow the leaders' abuse and debasement of the faith, peasant! Reading the holy books will drive you craaaaazeeeeeeeeeee, just be a good pay pig and tithe!

23 Then spake Jesus to the multitude, and to his disciples,
2 Saying The scribes and the Pharisees sit in Moses' seat:
3 All therefore whatsoever they bid you observe, that observe and do; but do not ye after their works: for they say, and do not.

4 For they bind heavy burdens and grievous to be borne, and lay them on men's shoulders; but they themselves will not move them with one of their fingers.

5 But all their works they do for to be seen of men: they make broad their phylacteries, and enlarge the borders of their garments,
6 And love the uppermost rooms at feasts, and the chief seats in the synagogues,
7 And greetings in the markets, and to be called of men, Rabbi, Rabbi.

8 But be not ye called Rabbi: for one is your Master, even Christ; and all ye are brethren.

9 And call no man your father upon the earth: for one is your Father, which is in heaven.

10 Neither be ye called masters: for one is your Master, even Christ.

11 But he that is greatest among you shall be your servant.

12 And whosoever shall exalt himself shall be abased; and he that shall humble himself shall be exalted.

>What's that again, Cardinal? Do you want me to confess so you can make use on Earth of a secret you're meant to keep between just the three of us? Well, I don't see a problem with skipping the middle man and confess to God himself, if you're gonna continue abusing the authority God vested on you!

Yeah, Jesus was so happy with mass organized religion... he loved when religion got a bunch of retarded pharisees to call him a servant of Belzebub, without the idiots realizing that would imply -they themselves- would have to be of such a low moral standing that demons find it easy to infest them and their children, had that been the case.

>>40936968
This too. The Roman Empire was already divided a century and a good chunk of another one before Constantine. And had grown tired of putting up with polytheistic BS that led them to have Elagabalus as their emperor, lolz. 2nd and 3rd century Rome was at times bananas, what too much peace and comformity bring.

>>40936901
Why not worship God instead? Idolatry will send you to hell

>>40939275
>Not getting what the trinity is
Sophia plz

I agree with Pageau when he says that Christian denominations depict a hierarchy of Truth
With Eastern Orthodoxy at the top, followed by Oriental, followed by Catholicism, and Protestantism at the bottom

>>40939099
well protestant freemasons just committed their futures to secret oaths to the synagogue of satan instead of confessing past sins to a priest

sinful authority figures are not unique to the church

>>40936822 (OP)
none of them. abrahamism is fucking retarded.

>>40936842
>Mark 14:51-52
Just a passage to make the allegory with the book of Amos blindingly obvious for any Zionists who still think that the divine promises weren't transferred to the Gentiles after Jews fucked it up again.

>>40936901
This. And you know him because of scripture.
So Baptist.

>>40936911
>Following Peter who would only give up his fishing nets to follow Jesus.
He meant it when he called Peter Satan.

>>40936822 (OP)
>Gnostic fags need not apply.
Counterpoint: If Gnosticism wasn't true it wouldn't provoke this much seethe.

Finding out that Christianity -- true Christianity -- is NON-ABRAHAMIC, was eye-opening for me. I can definitely see why the ancient Roman el-ites wanted to bury it.

>>40940102
>abrahamism is fucking retarded.
Correct. Which is why Gnostic Christianity is the true Christianity.

>>40936822 (OP)

It's the Quakers, OP, and it's not even close. Sorry you had to find out this way.

>>40936822 (OP)
Catholicism obviously. Everything else is just fanfic Christianity.

>>40940381
Sorry Pablo, no hablo Espaniol

>>40936842
*Sips tea*

>>40936822 (OP)
All of them. Catholicism is probably the true one but it's not like the others will just get thrown into Hell, they'll do a few years of Purgatory and come out clean.