Thread 41031756

>new to /x/ go easy on me, or don't, I don't care.
>I was admitted to a mental institution
>I drink alcohol to stop the thoughts and dreams, night terrors... I've seen some shit, feeling almost numb now at times irl.
>I talked to a shaman who there for a month already
>I just looked at them and asked a single question
>"What are dreams."
>"Alternate realities that you have the chance to get to."
>First ever interaction out of hello and sitting with them at breakfast/lunch/dinner routine.
>They didn't like what I watched on TV.
>never talked to him again, he seemed to have gotten himself into trouble by "acting violent".
>I left and now I'm going to detox for alcohol
>wtf did I just experience
>who did I just run into
>are dreams really alternate realities?
>I was so happy in four of them, I want to get to one of them...
>what do
>do I continue to take my meds and ignore my dreams/night terrors of alternate worlds?
>this is so weird to me...
>I'm like basic bitch mode to the paranormal.
>don't have artwork of a shaman, so here is a cute animated gif.

>>41031756 (OP)
Dreams are the same as this reality, just less dense. If you are looking to get into the paranormal, learning to control your dreams would help.

>>41031869

Could you point me in the right direction? I feel like it may improve my mood. Though; this would also mean I need to stop taking the drugs prescribed to me.

Could you elaborate a little for me?

>>41031889
Accept that this world is a dream, it's a product of the mind. Avoid dogma. Know that spiritual entities are made by your imagination, the only way they can harm or help you is if you let them.

You should try dreaming in spite of the drugs. Keeping your mind active as your body goes from awake to asleep should get you into a fairly vivid dream.

>>41031997

Okay, thank you for this information. I could elaborate more on the dreams if that would help. At this point I'd accept help from most sources.

>>41031756 (OP)
A lot of people believe that dreams are alternate realities indeed. Some even claim that you can chose to stay in one of these, by training at lucid dreaming and reality shifting.
I personally don't believe it, I think they are just funny hallucinations, because when you hear a sound while dreaming, something in your dream makes that sound, it you were in an alternate reality this would not happen.

>>41032097
Yes it would. All realities are one, just perceived differently by every point of reference. This reality is more dense because of collective consensus on what is and what isn't. Group think = big think

>>41031869
>>41031756 (OP)
Somewhat wrong/misleading. It's not like this reality. It's not an objective, shared perception and existence of all participants. The closest to truth is the idea that dreams can be interpretations and takes on reality, memories and perceptions one can actualize or find to be related to reality in another time and place. But that is never certain.
People who simplify it to "alternate realities that you have the chance to get to" lost the touch with reality and plunged too far into delusions without discernment, which is why your supposed shaman buddy, rather than getting to reality he hoped for, got admitted to the nuthouse in the first place.

>>41032154
Interesting point of view, but I don't totally get it. For example I remember one time a plane flew low above the house and made a lot of noise while I was sleeping, in my dream a ufo came down and it abruptly changed the story. Later my mother told me that the cat had been scared of the noise of an army plane earlier and asked if the noise woke me up. If the dream was an alternate reality, what is the explanation? Did the noise of the plane made me slide to a different one where something was making such a noise too? Another example I remember, I had hurt my leg while training, and the pain came again while I was sleeping, so in the dream I had an accident and injured my leg, but the pain started to come before the accident.

>>41032729
I believe the worlds behind the eyes of each individual are wide and varied. In order to communicate we have to have common ground in accepted interpretations on what others are up to. And by others I mean everything else, as in a rock has as much agency as myself, it just has a far off point of reference in relation to me, so it's hard to communicate. Animism, everything is alive. All realities converge and are interpreted, by you in "real time".

>>41032363
This.
Too many naive anons got taken in and assume that just because dreams can have spiritual/supernatural providence they always do all the time and for everyone, "you just got to believe" and other such idiocy. That's how they never make progress and got stuck in delusions instead.