Thread 41387609

I'm gonna try to keep this brief. I have some friends who work in some interesting places and we have been talking about the situation in the world a lot because we both work in a related industry. Space and nuclear mostly. I digress.

Word got out about 15 days ago that Trump was shown options for a planetary defense plan and the rumored reason for it was 3IA. This caused a pretty big panic in certain industries at the high level.
So nobody in my circle really knew what these plans involved until yesterday. Why? Someone got a bunch of very specific parameters for some new nuclear propulsion systems and vehicles. This was a massively funded project apparently which is strange because they involved a bunch of rockets from 2000 tonnes to 190,000 tonnes. Yes obvs that is unusual if you know anything about rockets; the saturn V was about 3,000 tonnes. These were updated versions of the Project Orion ships from the 60s.
Anyway fast forward to yesterday and this thing about restarting nuclear testing comes out of nowhere. We're trying to make sense of this and one person I work with said basically:
>Somebody showed Trump Project Orion and he instantly told them give the entire NASA budget to a crash program to get one flying in early 2026.
The conclusion we all have is that they are scrambling to get something stacked that can get a few million pounds of payload on a matching trajectory with 3IA no matter where it ends up

From everything being discussed about 3IA this is what I'm hearing. Again I won't be able to give rationales since this is stuff isn't coming from anything I've personally seen:

>There is some kind of signal or pattern in the visible surface of the object itself which is being used for communication. No idea how this works but it means everyone who can see it will know something about it that is maybe more important than just knowing it's alien
>It's generating gravitational anomalies and gamma ray bursts that seem directional
>US, Russia, China have all entered a total blackout of astronomical observation exchange. There are a lot of names for this, but basically they know 100% this thing is not natural and are angling to get the hold on perception before going public
>There is a theory being pushed in gov't that this is (literally) New Jerusalem returning. If you know about how people in the Pentagon think you'll know the people saying this are completely serious, they say it's a cube slightly smaller than the moon
They wouldn't be saying this if imaging data didn't reflect a cube shape, something to think about
>People are really worried about total collapse, and not in the typical way. Everyone keeps referencing how people will have no reason to sustain civilization which will threaten all institutions. This is coming from everyone; weird because again it tells me there's something about 3IA that is very unexpected even at the highest levels and they are scared by it

Apparently Russia, the US and China have all diverted more and more of their space funding and a good portion of defense over the last 3-4 weeks to some crash programs to respond.
So yeah if they start testing devices suddenly imo we'll probably see all the nuclear states rush to do the same thing and we'll know why. I hope this helps you guys figure out what's happening with this thing. Everyone I know who is aware of more than me is super excited, even if a a little startled. I hope this information serves someone

>>41387609 (OP)
So the plan is to shoot nukes at it?

>There is a theory being pushed in gov't that this is (literally) New Jerusalem returning

What does that mean?

>some kind of signal or pattern in the visible surface of the object

What’s the signal saying, do we know?

Also I’ve seen stuff about 3 or 4 other “comets” going towards the same regions of space. Are the other comets related?

>>41387609 (OP)
>new Jerusalem is returning
>earth Jerusalem wants trump to blow it up
Keep me posted....

>>41387634
No, Orion was propelled from the Earth by small nuclear explosions. Today we'd use thermonuclear miniature devices that don't produce fallout. It's a really effective way to get stupidly massive payloads into orbit fast and cheap.

NJ was described in the bible as being a cube just smaller than the moon and people think it looks like a cube so they're putting 2 and 2 together. Not sure how close it is to the actual biblical dimensions.

I would be surprised if it wasn't putting out smaller objects. I'd bet money it will dump something at Jupiter but that's just me guessing. People tend not to realize Jupiter is vital for expanding into the solar system since it offers access to the inner and outer planets and its own asteroid fields nearby that can be exploited... Plus the moons having all kinds of useful chemistry.

any proof of your words anon? Anything objective?

>>41387610
>There is a theory being pushed in gov't that this is (literally) New Jerusalem returning
i formulated that theory. And im just a shitposter. if the government is taking my ideas seriously, then we need another government lol
https://archive.4plebs.org/x/thread/41178500/

Isn't it leaving the solar system to never return?

Why spend money on a non-issue?

>>41387609 (OP)
>>41387610
>source
>it came to me in a dream
whoa
>190,000 ton rockets
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>>41387609 (OP)
>>41387610
>new jerusalem
>cube
MOOOOOM!
the jews are on 4chan again!

>>41387907
They designed larger than that in project orion...

>>41387974
project Orion was from 800 to 10,000 tons.

>>41387986
The biggest design was 8 million tons dude

>>41387609 (OP)
>>41387610
what I'm hearing is that locked out completely in the dark US evangelical boomer niggers in the bras acting in cooperation with/under the cynical direction of Solar Warden secret space program glows are going to instinctually try and sell us out to the space Jew Antichrist arriving in an actual borg cube covered in kike scribbles to fulfill MUH BIBBLE PROPHETSEE

>>41388024
whoa no way!
and i can take a pencil and draw a ELEVEN TRILLION TON ship!
Super Orion was a meme drawn on paper.

>>41388036
these kike morons overdid it with 9/11 and covid, nobody will fall for any more jew nonsense anymore so no, if any weird ass alien shit start happening, nobody will think its some israeli drones.

>>41387609 (OP)
It’s here anons predicted leaks like this would happen when shit gets to real. NDA won’t stop people from talking about a freaking alien invasion.

>>41387610
Point a laser at it

>>41387691
what do you mean will dump, it already passed Jupiter so if it dumped it already did so, and it did get really close to Jupiter

>>41387609 (OP)
I believe it. What do you think it is ?

>>41387653
yeah if the abrahamics are in charge (who doubts?) and they ^think^ its prophecy they aint gonna nuke it
of course, smart ayyylmao may know this, and be using it as camouflage

>>41388024
are you sure it wasn't six million?

>>41387609 (OP)
Just let Trump croak.
He was never the anchor of this universe. I'd even claim the entire hype train operation in 2016 was to force the public consciousness into believing the idea that only the rich elites can be "powerful" or "important" to the universe

>>41387609 (OP)
I don't wear briefs.

Keep it boxers next time.

>>41387609 (OP)
>blrumfffff
Very low quality larp, its obvious that this is nothing but coof 2.0 bluebeam eidition from 33 alone, both from atlas and borisov.
So sage in all fields.

>>41387915
They never left

Oh my God. You're so obvious. This is literally step by step Project Blue fag. With their fake Jesus messiah to deploy at the end to enslave us all under the New World Order. This is exactly what Bill Cooper talked about in "Behold a white horse", and not only there, it's been described in countless prophecies (it's a script, they're not predicting jack) including the Revelations (which is a fake book written by what we call demons.

If they follow the plan as expected, they'll deploy the alien ship only after ww3 is already started, and after the nuclear exchange. The ISS deorbits catastrophically and with it several satellites.

Then it's "3-days of darkness". Something obscure the sun. The air becomes toxic outside, there's a snow blizzard and if it touches you it kills you on contact. Meanwhile they'll deploy the creatures. They'll abduct and/or kill people from everywhere.

I heard saying they need invitation to your house but I won't bet any money on it.

They'll EMP the planet. New tech won't work. Semiconductor based tech will be useless. Led lamps won't work ( watch the show El Eternauta, it's predictive programming and they show part of what'll happen).

The magnetic poles of the planet will also be reversed.

Some people will be controlled remotely with the 5G-vax or whatever tech they'll use. They'll hunt the other humans. Non vax people will be hunted down and terminated anyway they can, since unlike us vaxtards they'll receive the DNA upgrade from God.

Using the corrupt legal system they're crashing the economy, they're expropriating all farm land across the world. They'll cause a famine, global.

That's when they'll deploy the beast pass. They'll give you free food or free money and you'll become a human drone. Not only that, they'll upload your soul to the cloud and you'll be a slave forever. They'll use your soul for God knows what.

I suspect demons are those souls taken into slavery by these same entities who plan to do this to us.

>>41389713
Cont.
Jesus will arrive at the end to "free" us from the cabal, to "defeat" Israel , to "defeat" the alien/demons but only if we all come together in a One World government because we've been naughty, we caused the (fake) climate change, we made wars etc.

That's the ultimate deception. Men will have no freedom of thought and we'll become like Greys, a collective remotely controlled.

Unless we don't fall for it, and we refuse.

Ack wrong Captcha!!!

: P

Wouldn't be Me otherwise I suppose...

Errrmmm ANYWAY!

Yeah I just can't unhear "**" but in the BEST way possible so yeah, I'm good and got this like "halfway"

>;D

Happy Halloween <3 <3 <3

>>41388058
>i can take a pencil and draw a ELEVEN TRILLION TON ship!
Andif your name was Freemand Dyson it would have made it into the technical papers.
You were wrong, that's ok.

>>41387691
>people think it looks like a cube
People don't think atlas looks like a cube. Where are you getting this from?

>>41389713
I don't see how what I said tracks with any of that. If they needed a weaponized response, real or simulated, they wouldn't need a spaceship.

>>41387804
>>41387915
Not sure you guys understand what I said. I don't think it's NJ but there is a large faction of christians in the US gov't and defense industry that do.

>>41390407
Like I said, the insiders who should have seen better images of 3IA by now think it's NJ, so logically it should be cubic unless something was lost in translation.

>>41388202
The Jupiter encounter isn't for another 5 months...

>>41390448
>Like I said, the insiders who should have seen better images of 3IA by now think it's NJ, so logically it should be cubic unless something was lost in translation.
Ok, so it's a larp thread with intention to create narratives. Shills busy at work I see

>>41390530
I didn't say you had to take everything I said as gospel. There's a lot of it I have doubts about too obviously.

>>41390471
I like this image because it clearly shows that 3i/ATLAS will be twice as far as Mars at its closest approach to Earth. Oh no!

>>41390530
Schizolarp thread
I have heard a dozen variations on this schizolarp in my many years of living
Always false and never true
If it involves anything to do with end times bs, it is schizolarp, its a favorite psyop

>>41388264
The trajectory screams settler to me. There's no reason to make a close pass by Mars then Jupiter unless you're setting up infrastructure. I know most people here aren't into astrophysics but Jupiter is a massive boon to stellar colonization. Any civilization coming in will set up camp at Jupiter.
Plus, if there is/was life on Mars or the jovian moons it makes sense they'd be checking in on that. The avoidance of Earth is also a big sign that they intend to keep their presence at least passive if not totally hidden.
Maybe they already have outposts around Jupiter, idk

>>41389713
More constant phrases that are routinely failed psyops/schizolarp narratives/always false and a lie thrown out by bots

>3 days of darkness
This schizolarp narrative has been repeated by bots on youtube for s e v e r a l years and *never came true*, multiple variations of this lie including new age variations.

>>41390781
You clearly have reading comprehension issues. All OP says is that 3IA is 100% not natural and that we are reviving an old program to get something built that can catch up to it as it leaves the system.
Really don't understand where you got the 'end times' from

>>41390810
Yeah OP is larping
Its a variation on similar lies that have been repeating over and over for years.

>so they're going to try to build a modern project orion to catch Atlas...
>THAT'S BLUEBEAM! END TIMES! YOU'RE A FED!
jfc the iq on this board...

>>41390798
These close passes are millions of miles. the closest it got to anything was Mars, 20,000,000 miles away. Space is huge, Anon.

>>41390832
Something that's 20,000,000 miles away can also be 100 miles away from an object at a different point in time. This is what we call an "orbit." Objects released by 3IA if under their own power could easily acquire orbit from this trajectory.

>>41390820
It's not though. There is no implied invasion, no rationale for social restructuring, no ideological framework and no fear based motivation in what I said.
I understand you might be conditioned to think certain things but this says more about your inherent bias than it does others.

>>41387609 (OP)
When the spinning ball-Earth is finally exposed worldwide for the 400+ year deception it was, Earth's entire population will suddenly be faced with the reality that every government, every space agency, university, secret society, religious organization, mainstream and alternative media outlet have ALL been duplicitous in propping up a monstrous manipulation to fleece and control the masses. The resulting mass mental exodus away from the control system is exactly what humanity needs. Once the flat Earth truth gets out, these lying politicians, spokesmen, reporters and teachers suddenly change from being heralded voices of authority to being ridiculed, shunned and denounced as they deserve. Once the flat Earth truth gets out, these governments, universities, media outlets and other entangled organizations which have long been hard at work weaving this multi-generational ball-Earth myth, suddenly and completely lose all credibility. Once the truth of our flat Earth gets out, so does the truth of these few elite families/societies who have kept this most important and fundamental reality from us for these hundreds of years! Essentially, once the flat Earth truth gets out, so does every other important truth by proxy, because this "mother-of-all-conspiracies" holds under its umbrella literally ALL of the other conspiracies, and exposes them.

>>41391293
>Galactic Federale niggers don't want us to have nukes, want us to stay on the EARF REINKARNASHUN SKOOL to le learn love or some shit while Martians continually literally rape us for their personal pleasure
>Orion Empire specifically directly completely opposes them, backs the Third Reich, gets subject to ridiculous holohoax propaganda just like the Third Reich by Solar Warden SSP program modified limited hangout agents
>the retard monkey brain analog technology back door method to escape Earth in the absence of ability to develop Zero Point/antigrav/whatever without getting black bagged or murdered by ayys and glows detecting that no-no tech is named Project Orion
>it involves unga bungaing to orbit riding the blastwave of actual nuclear bombs and is the single most efficient way to combustion-engine your way into space that doesn't involve gigantic rocketless launch ground infrastructure or doing the exact same thing but with antimatter bombs
I'm nooticing really, really hard here

>>41391293
Kek high quality meme

>>41391985
Yeah I realized the only possible reason you'd have a restart of surface testing would be to create a legal pathway for a ground launch orion. There is no other possible justification for it. War in ukraine isn't justification.
Orion is the ultimate 'plan B' and has been for like 70 years now, they are stupidly cheap and can be built in naval dockyards instead of spaceports because they're so unlike normal rockets.
Just to be clear in case people don't understand why Orion is insanely powerful, it's not just because it's using a nuclear explosion.

The rocket equation is based on the rocket effect which is a way of describing how chemical reactions produce thrust. Basically when a rocket gets going really fast the fuel exploding in the rocket nozzle has to overcome this velocity before it imparts thrust. This means the faster you go, the more energy you need to continue accelerating at the same speed.

The orion works by using plasma moving at 99% of light speed produced by the nuclear explosion. You can get your spaceship going up to fractions of C before you start encountering thrust losses to your vehicle's own velocity.

This is why orion is so mind-bendingly powerful. It not only uses the immense energy density of nuclear explosions but it also completely avoids the rocket equation at the same time. Something other nuclear engines cannot do.
When you start researching who was involved with orion you'll notice a lot of very weird stuff. Everyone touched the program; all the top los alamos people, von braun, kennedy, NASA, DARPA, USAF... They even had generals and civilians publishing papers on it even though it was supposed to be classified.

>>41390908
>When
In just two more millennia

>>41392207
when you put it like that and consider the ridiculous on the nose naming it really sounds like stay-behind agents of the Third Reich and their allies in cooperation with uncompromised aspects of our military and aerospace corporations cobbled Orion together specifically to give humanity something more or less 'conventional' to rebel against the MJ12/Solar Warden spacegoing (((deep state))) with by using 'hard' sci-fi tech that while not matching can at least hope to punch up against the 'soft' sci-fi tech reality of the opposition, without violating select treaties or causing an escalation of direct involvement by our oppressors' suzerains.

It was viable to build then, it's still viable to build now, nuclear shaped charges are propulsion and weaponry in one, and their utility is in being able to stage a disastrously damaging Port Arthur or Pearl Harbor stealth shock attack against superior forces. It's kind of the perfect thing for a disadvantaged pre-space opera age species to use to force their way into orbit against existing opposition, and create a localized weakness in the occupiers' forces that an allied space navy can exploit with a follow-on strike to pull their collaborateur's asses out of the fire before the enemy can get their operational balance back.

>>41390832
>what is orbital mechanics

the best possible outcome

>>41387634
>yes.america

I love this country so much

>>41392422
In a space military sense Orions are some scary shit if you get creative.
It's the only viable platform that lets you carry shock troops and armor suitable for ground invasions. You can also perform powered landings on the shock absorber. So imagine you're attacking some position and in order to take it you land directly over it, nuking it 100+ times on the descent and then rolling a brigade size tank force off your spaceship.

In orbit you can lay propulsion units on one trajectory then move out of phase. Now you have hundreds of nuclear devices lined up on an orbit that can each independently target with a directional (casaba howitzer-esque) nuclear shaped charge.
Plus they're cheaper than naval vessels by weight to manufacture so disposable enough to use in unconventional ways

>>41394157
Starting over from scratch with no diversity and inta-kill switches.

>>41396380
*insta-

Miscegenated body vessels are all duds, with built in self defeating uncompatible programming. Diversity itself is a self defeating naval gazing that leads to delusions of "fairness" that are ironically the source of iniquity itself.

>>41387609 (OP)
Can someone give me a QRD on Project Orion please

>>41396577
It's a wild one. 99% of youtube vids about it are slop but this series goes into autistic detail I reccomend it to anyone who wants to know more without having to watch all the reactionary bullshit people associate with it
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xnNVVVjmfss
Good watch if you have a free afternoon, I think it's like 5 parts

>>41396594
Is this in any way related to the Orion Empire?

>>41396238
>So imagine you're attacking some position and in order to take it you land directly over it, nuking it 100+ times on the descent and then rolling a brigade size tank force off your spaceship
if the tech is relatively simple, maybe we've come up with it before...

>>41396706
>if the tech is relatively simple
Well yeah that's the other unspoken thing about nukes. It's stupidly low tier technology.
Hypothetically a bronze age civilization that's stacking up raw ore in an enclosed room can discover uranium's properties since raw uranium ore will emit heat if you pile enough up. This would be noticeable to a person without detection equipment or thermometers.

There are even natural nuclear reactors that have formed inside the Earth's crust in the past just from uranium ore being compressed to the point of subcriticality. Fission is in fact stupidly easy, and once you know what uranium is there is only a matter of time before you can achieve a runaway reaction.
You also don't need optics, electronics, lathes or any kind of industrial-era manufacturing tech to make nuclear devices. Just explosives and physics knowledge.

There is a reason Oppenheimer quoted Bhagavat gita. Anyone who truly understands nuclear tech knows it's going to be the first important thing a civilization with any kind of ambition achieves.

bump

>>41387883
Yes and I'm not sure.

>>41387634
>What’s the signal saying, do we know?
"Send nudes"

>>41389739
> step 1: jump the shark