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Threat Interactive
Is he right?
Is he wrong?
...or is he a schizo?
Anonymous No.1007851 [Report] >>1008736
>>1007846 (OP)
A mixture of all of those things.

Not addressing any of his claims but speaking generally there are these sort of deep engine flaws and problems
that is the root cause of stutters and glitches that goes ignored by developers with access to the source code for years.

Reasons for not fixing it includes stuff like how it'd be too hard to address, that the detection threshold is bellow the level of yank that non-enthusiast playerbase accepts, or that the developer themselves don't see the extent of the problem because they're not as enthusiast about their own work as their audience.

You can go back and read forum threads where someone brings attention to something and the developers actually come out to articulate a response but
dismisses/downplay the problem and it keeps going ignored even as more and more devs come in and point to the same root issue and provide proof
that this or that glitch is the root cause.

At that point you are up against human psychology and a mixture of skepticism/pride/resentment for having been wrong means they often dig in and refuse to address it.

This guy then 'threat interactive' is a similar big ego but on the outside who's gotten it into his head he's very special for being able to see things
that's already evident to lot of people working with these software. Where he deviates is that he is so convinced that if he was just handed the keys to the kingdom
he'd fix this in a jiffy and ask for money and access, which is pretty schizo.

But how much a schizo he is hinges on the unknown of how much he would actually be able to do that, perhaps he really is a genius?

My money would be firmly on schizo tho. Given he has not have eyes on the source code of the things he's talking about this is a big claim to make.
Either way I think he's useful in being so vocal about it and just putting more eyeball on these things, help build awareness and pressure.
Anonymous No.1007856 [Report]
>>1007846 (OP)
He's based
Anonymous No.1007859 [Report]
>>1007846 (OP)
He's a schizo but he's right
Anonymous No.1007864 [Report] >>1007865 >>1007884 >>1007895
>>1007846 (OP)
>copyright strikes videos shitting on him
Pussy ass bitch
Anonymous No.1007865 [Report] >>1007896
>>1007864
If true then he's a fucking loser. Sauce on that?
Anonymous No.1007881 [Report]
>>1007846 (OP)
incredibly high ranking autistic schizoid. not the cool kind either. more of a chris chan than a terry davis. any money donated to his cause probably goes to anime figures and porn commissions. I look forward to seeing the meltdown once he has his lolcow moment. I put good odds on him having shared nudes with one or more children.
Anonymous No.1007884 [Report]
>>1007864
>faggots just shit on how he looks like he's made of AI
deserved desu, only pussy ass bitches who deserve to get copyright strucked will bitch about someone looking like an AI made him
Anonymous No.1007895 [Report] >>1007956 >>1013066
>>1007864
He could not have more of a grifter phenotype if he tried. Not that he's wrong about stuff all the time either, but he is a bad actor.
Anonymous No.1007896 [Report] >>1008575
>>1007865
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GPU3grGmZTE
Anonymous No.1007950 [Report]
>>1007846 (OP)
The true saviour of Vidya
Anonymous No.1007956 [Report]
>>1007895
Shut up Nvidia shill you are controlled opposition
Anonymous No.1007981 [Report] >>1007987 >>1015184
>>1007846 (OP)
>i need a million dollars to FIX unreal engine
>no im not a programmer
>no im not going to tell you how im going to fix the issues
>no i wont explain how i am going to release my fixed version

he wants a million dollars but won't pay out for a decent greenscreen or a paid domain for his wordpress blog
Anonymous No.1007987 [Report]
>>1007981
You can give me the money
I don't know how to fix the issue either but I'm really good working with green screens
Anonymous No.1008218 [Report]
>>1007846 (OP)
Given that he always shows in detail what he's talking about, he has my trust.
Anonymous No.1008565 [Report] >>1008566 >>1008656 >>1008994
Based optimization chad, on a real note, UE is open source, why would he want money to fix it when he can fork it for free or even make his engine from the ground up? I don't see why someone that educated on the topic would genuinely care about fixing other peoples work when he can easily create a tech demo to showcase how far it could go.
He is completely right in everything he is calling out, games are less performant and beautiful than they used to be, I'm interested in what techniques he would reccommend for beautiful and performant games since I've been out of the loop for a while now. Also Quake 3 Arena is peak graphics you bitchass niggas
Anonymous No.1008566 [Report]
>>1008565
Another thing I forgot to mention is that this whole ordeal is a low-hanging fruit in the industry since for a while now, most studios have been following the footsteps of monolithic game engines and the whole industry as a whole, is pushing towards fully automated ai genned bs which puts the least amount of strain on multiquintillion dollar corpos. It's a lot easier to make some jeeted code and tell people to upgrade than to optimise for a plethora of different hardware. Wordpress domain tells me that this has to be a scam, has he even mentioned WHAT or HOW he is going to 'fix' the industry? Even if he gets full UE acess, what then?
Anonymous No.1008575 [Report]
>>1007896
Where are his showcases, proofs or anything he is just talking shit. Not interested. Grifter at least had it nicely documented and properly shown this pro wannabe have nothing just words.
Anonymous No.1008656 [Report] >>1009284
>>1008565
UE is not open source.
Anonymous No.1008736 [Report]
>>1007851
>You can go back and read forum threads where someone brings attention to something and the developers actually come out to articulate a response but
>dismisses/downplay the problem and it keeps going ignored even as more and more devs come in and point to the same root issue and provide proof that this or that glitch is the root cause.
this shit is the worst, open source is already really bad with the whole "wontfix because lazy" and "whats the usecase?" comments but game dev is on a whole new level
some retarded jeet will unironically go "whats the usecase" for something when claiming the fix is to "just" copypaste the same shit 500 times
yanderedev coding feels like the mean for game devs and they dont understand how things can ever be better so they always just suggest you to do dumb fucking shit
i think its partly because some gamedevs get popular off their game design skills then dunning kruger their way into thinking that means they can program so the whole community just ends up with this aura of full of themselves retards suggesting retarded solutions because "it le worked for me!!"
Anonymous No.1008994 [Report] >>1009103 >>1009276
>>1007846 (OP)
he is wrong: nanite has no quad overdraw issues
all his other vids are low hanging fruit shit to impress 0iq gamers
he lied in his response to hate video
DMCAs criticism
he is just using gamer outrage to prop up his fame he is realted to/is a reddit mod he know all about manipulator tactics but whatever
biggest problem about him is how he misdirects attention of the public away from real problems (layoffs, budget cuts, unrealistic deadlines, poor work conditions etc) over to some pointless BS to be mad at (muh lazy devs, muh UE)
>>1008565
UE is not open source
you cant "just make a new engine"
his "goal" is to "improve" UE coz everyone uses UE
graphics have become more performant and beautiful (TAA needs to die though)
consumers and developers have gotten too poor/frugal to properly fiance their hobbies & projects
its takes no effort to say games are optimized today especially when you consider that games werent optimized ever since crysis
Anonymous No.1009100 [Report]
Threat interactive is actually a sperglord retard that doesn't actually know what he's talking about. His content sure is appealing to the ignorant though.

He's also threatened youtubers with takedowns for calling him out and explaining why he's wrong.

He also does this weird larping as a C-Suite executive, it's incredibly cringe when he's just a solo hobbiest unreal dev with no team.
Anonymous No.1009103 [Report]
>>1008994
GOOD MORNING SAAR
Anonymous No.1009276 [Report] >>1009278 >>1010243
>>1008994
>layoffs, budget cuts, unrealistic deadlines, poor work conditions etc
why should I care about any of that when there are no respectful white people working on the industry? there's probably 10% respectable white people left in the industry, rest are mystery meat or otherwise spineless human scum that do anything they're told liek a jeet
Anonymous No.1009278 [Report] >>1009283
>>1009276
Then you should probably appreciate that.
Anonymous No.1009283 [Report]
>>1009278
Of course I do, I haven't played video games serious in almost 20 years. They're fucking joke and so are the consumers who enable these lowest denominator nigger x360 console shit-tier games with 0 fucking depth. I played Split Fiction recently with an NPC who kept repeating that it's "GOAT" game or whatever, "GOTY", it had 2 characters that have no looks of a woman, no shape no curves no ass no waist no hips no boobs, nothing, and one of them had a cryptokike nose. The worst part wasn't that, it's that it was linear as shit, no exploration, nothing to do, just "a-b a-b" constantly. If this is what people think is "good" gaming, then let it get more pajeets and AI, it's not like the game I like are coming back in my lifetime, might as well give people more slop right?
Anonymous No.1009284 [Report] >>1009285 >>1010243
>>1008656
It is open source, but not free software.
You get the source code by linking you epic games account to github, no other strings attached.
UE is the most popular private repo on github.
>>1007846 (OP)
He's a schizo and full of shit. All of his suggestions about performance involve doubling the development workload on any indie game which can better and more productively be used to develop new features.
Anonymous No.1009285 [Report]
>>1009284
>All of his suggestions about performance involve doubling the development workload on any indie game which can better and more productively be used to develop new features.
As much as I like Palworld, boy do I wish those trees didn't have such hideous popin, or that the game didn't run so shitty even on good PC. If developers don't care about their games to make it work on my 4k PC, maybe I should start caring less for their games as well?
Anonymous No.1010243 [Report]
>>1009276
slave labor is still labor and poor work conditions causes your muh aryan master racers into quitting the industry altogether into more profitable/fulfilling sectors like AI no skill or experience ever develops
budget and deadlines nuff said
>>1009284
its not open source its source available it means you can look at the code and nothing else basically a PR move to look like the good guys its completely pointless
Anonymous No.1010264 [Report]
>>1007846 (OP)
He is an idea guy. And nobody gives a shit about idea guys unless they have either money or a proven track record to back them up. He doesn't have the latter and is begging for the former.

Even shittiest of modders put in more actual work to realize their vision than this guy. I'll happily donate him money if he makes one - just one - change into Unreal Engine that improves it. But no, like all the worthless idea guys, he can't do shit.
Anonymous No.1010496 [Report] >>1010498
You think it's a mess now? Just wait for AI generated blueprint code, it's coming, and will create more bloat.
Anonymous No.1010498 [Report] >>1010504 >>1011245
>>1010496
>AI generated blueprint code
lmao
I was going to write something about how that's not possible because ai sloppa needs training data.
But then was remembering that Epic already has a library of that what they now call """Fab""".
It's coming.
Anonymous No.1010504 [Report]
>>1010498
It only needs a lot of training data before it "generalizes", afterwards you can just give it a few of your own examples as context and it will be able to figure out things as long as what it needs is present in context.
the chair nerd No.1010594 [Report]
Anonymous No.1010800 [Report] >>1011174 >>1013868
>he started sending lawyers at YouTubers shitting on him

LMAOOOOOOO. He's officially a lolcow

https://youtu.be/TUmIfC8S3Z4
Anonymous No.1011174 [Report] >>1013868
>>1010800
kek
Anonymous No.1011245 [Report]
>>1010498
its already a thing, there was a guy on YouTube who showed it and he made it using blueprints
Anonymous No.1013066 [Report] >>1013067 >>1013083
>>1007895
>He could not have more of a grifter phenotype if he tried
This, I feel sorry for people who can't tell he's a bad actor just from his mannerism and face.
Anonymous No.1013067 [Report] >>1013069 >>1013071
>>1013066
I think the bad actor is teh dumbass somehow bumping all old threads in the last day without adding anything meaningful to them
Anonymous No.1013069 [Report]
>>1013067
>uhm did u just necrobump
This isn't a forum dickhead.
Anonymous No.1013071 [Report]
>>1013067
Anonymous No.1013083 [Report]
>>1013066
>bad actor
Go back
Anonymous No.1013117 [Report] >>1013602
>>1007846 (OP)
Yes
Yes
And Yes

Basically his entire problem is that he think a hammer should be foolproof.
Game Engine are a tool. If a retard use the tool, results will be bad. Shocker.
Now marketing does sell their hammer as being foolproof AND filling your taxes AND sucking your cock, but non-retards should also know better than believing anything out of the marketing team's mouth.
Anonymous No.1013597 [Report]
It will be funny once people realize they have been scammed out of their money by this grifter
Anonymous No.1013598 [Report] >>1013600
>>1007846 (OP)
I am waiting for his mega based github pull requests that improve performance 10x or he can fuck off
Anonymous No.1013600 [Report]
>>1013598
he needs 1 million to hire someone to fix Unreal :)
Anonymous No.1013601 [Report]
>right?
Dunno
>wrong?
Obviously not. Forgive Me Father can't run on my system and there's no reason it shouldn't run on a system half as powerful.
>schizo?
Probably.
Anonymous !.wwccKKYRg No.1013602 [Report]
>>1013117
This is not true at all. Both author and a tool can influence the result in many significant ways. For example, the same amount of effort can result in flawlessly running game in one engine and poorly running game in another engine. UE5 in particular is widely known to make games built in it run like shit by default, developers need to go extra length to optimize the shit out of their game and most AAA developers fail at that.
Anonymous No.1013788 [Report] >>1013789
>>1007846 (OP)
Rumor has it UE 5.6 fixed the lag and stutter.
Has he commented on it or is he conveniently silent now?
Anonymous No.1013789 [Report] >>1013817 >>1013834
>>1013788
most recent video talked about it and said it's a step in the right direction, but still has alot of problems.
Anonymous No.1013817 [Report] >>1013833
>>1013789
That one"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EFXWXRfaSPE
Watched it, brings up Lumen async processing and says it's actually worse because overall frame time increases when performance is maxed out.
That's hardly the fixed stutter of UE5.6 though which afik has something to do with shader loading and compilation.

A bunch of ill conceived arguments still. The claim that UE needs lumen, contradicting himself. The claim that Lumen somehow depends on nanite, wtf?
The argument that since UE is the fortnite engine it's only good for stylized graphics is particularity dishonest.
Anonymous No.1013833 [Report]
>>1013817
Those things aren't wrong. Nanite busts alot of things, and you can't do any traditional instancing control with lumen due to how it works. The reality is nanite and lumen are designed around a workflow that is pretty antithetical to traditional gamedev as a whole. That might be fine if you're able to learn it specifically from the get-go or have the money to throw around for your team to retool for it, but it has proved incredibly difficult to deal with even now.

The only studios not fumbling are Epic and studios directly tied to Epic developers, like Tripwire.
Anonymous No.1013834 [Report]
>>1013789
If you want a more sensible take on things, this video does a calmer take on what's wrong with the engine.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0eFWHguddcs

At the end of the day, the big sweeping changes of "nah the engine will handle it" and removing alot of control from the developers. This is why UE5 has been such a mess as a whole.
Anonymous No.1013868 [Report]
>>1010800
>>1011174
I tend to not give a fuck about people whose entire appearance is performative and this is no different.
Anonymous No.1013891 [Report]
>>1007846 (OP)
Literally modern day John Carmack. He saved gaming, say thank you.
Anonymous No.1013920 [Report]
>>1007846 (OP)
He is the best kind of schizo. The one that only appears to be one because he is not complacent in a world where people have become so. He isn't a schizo at all in fact. Everything he shows can be tested freely in all engines versions showcased
Anonymous No.1015172 [Report]
>>1007846 (OP)
He's totally correct but too ocd to see why devs don't bother with all of these tiny micro optimisations
In reality long triangles and tiny overdraw is unavoidable
Redundancies like unused texture samplers are bound to end up when you're making a pipeline that's designed to support dozens of different types of assets and you don't have time to train every artist on the perfect way to do everything
Also unreal seems to have invested heavily in the 'virtual production' use case, where performance isn't as important as simply having something on screen quickly

I 100% agree that post process AA generally looks like shit, trying to get good portfolio shots out of UE's blurry af render is a nightmare
Anonymous No.1015184 [Report]
>>1007981
>no im not a programmer
>no im not going to tell you how im going to fix the issues
>no i wont explain how i am going to release my fixed version
he will use chatGPT to fix the code
Anonymous No.1015284 [Report]
You can tell he is a grifter just by his phenotype.
Anonymous No.1015336 [Report]
>Right
Yeah he's right on a fair amount of things
>Wrong
Probably a few times but not really enough to call him out
>Schizo
Not really either
His videos been a threat for a while to the AAA industry and the shit narrative they've been trying to get us believe.
Anonymous No.1016233 [Report]
>>1007846 (OP)
Wrong and right.
Hes right about the problems, but offers no solutions.

The biggest problem.... with a lot of the problems are just related to tech transition and will be solved with time. Low sample GI and overdraw bottleneck will get fixed with time, and like it or not basic rasterization hit its limits. Only so much you can do in screen space.

His retarded ideas of baking lightmaps, faking screen space shadows and all the other dumb shit are not a replacement for realtime GI. Same goes for lightprobes and all other gimmicky solutions. Realtime updated lightprobes are 10x better solution.