Thread 1011717

Hey /3/
I want to retopo this model. I work in 3ds Max and found it to be lacking.

Are there any tools that would allow me to "relax" and curve some of the topology? I want to keep working on Mesh, but I also wish I had a smoother shape.

Or should I move entirely towards different software?

ugh i hate these fake threads!
the topo on this thing is 100% perfect. you just wanted to make a thread where people would be freaked out by a screen shot of a sex toy model you found.
we could atually be talking about dildo design but NOOOOOO youre here to troll and not discuss.

>>1011721
Dude, yes, I posed this with a dildo as I was commissioned to make 10 models. The topo isn't perfect, or at least not to the level I want to achieve.

Im looking for a way to smoothen the loops as myne always look jittery and Im really looking for a way to handle it without eyeballing it.

>>1011732
the problem is in your imagination. hit smooth.

you can relax the topology in blender's sculpt mode using the slide relax brush. no idea about 3ds max

I dont mean to just "Relax-relax" I want to have the Curvability. Also I would like to be able to traighten a loop along the model as I would be slicing through it.

Now I feel like my models are always a bit jittery.

>>1011766
1. use swift loops
2. use set flow to smooth loop edges that were fucked without flattening curvatures
3. use loop tools to average the curvature and spacing or completely straighten edges in certain cases that would otherwise get messed up by set-flow
4. for following a complex spline curve precisely i'd try sweep then boolean to cut. You'd have to clean up the result but at least it would be precise. Otherwise tracing the loop by hand is close enough and no one is ever going to notice except you.
5. If you need to reform a curve along it's normal facing just make a proxy curve mesh with turbosmooth and use freeform conform after putting it in place. My tolerance for that preciseness probably isn't the same since I don't care as much, but I've never had any issues that Max couldn't solve.
In short it sounds like you have a skill issue and it's probably not Max.

>>1011717 (OP)
>>1011732
since you're a maxbro and you asked nicely, 3ds max have the exact tool for this. its called flow connect. just delete the whole loop, select the ring of the original loop, and click flow connect. it will automatically create a smooth loop based on the surrounding curvature.

and yes, i've check, there's no other tools similar to this on blender or maya.

3dsmax gods stay winning.

>>1012644
>there's no other tools similar to this on blender
Strange flex since you can often find some variation of this in a lot of third party plugins in any software. But actually the vanilla blender "subdivide" edit mode operation (I don't think it's a very good name since it's most often used as a "new edge loop" operation) has a "smoothness" option that does the same thing:
https://docs.blender.org/manual/en/3.6/modeling/meshes/editing/edge/subdivide.html#options
I never used maya but it probably has something like that as well. It's just hard to find all the functionality from just the docs because 3d modeling software is so packed with features.

>>1012646
blender's "subdivide" is similar but not quite the same. there's something non-optimal about the algorithm compared to max. here's a default sphere with subdivide with smoothness turn on. you can see the new edges are wonky.

>>1012646
you can even see it in the official example

>>1012653
Hmm, you're right, it is suboptimal. Might still be good enough for a lot of usecases. But I yield.
I wonder if the wonkiness could be alleviated by manually inputting a higher value for the smoothness. The dialog normally lets you slide between 0.0-1.0, but you can enter a higher value.

>>1012644
>>1012646
To me it looks like dissolve edges. Am I seeing it wrong? To select edges like that in Blender you can [ctrl + left click], to then dissolve them you do [ctrl + x].

>>1012660
> To select edges like that in Blender you can [ctrl + left click],
Woops it's [alt + left click]

>>1011908
Thank you!
Set flow seems to be working most of the time, but Im pretty bummed I cant get to make it look as if I was using some sort of "Lazylane"

>>1012644
I'm pleasantly surprised by your words. Thanks for the tips. I think I never used Flow Connect, is that similar to "Swift Loop + Shift" ?

In my image, Im showing what I find myself having trouble with, equal distribution, and the wonkyness is persistent.

I know the model is fine, I want to make it better as practice.

>>1011717 (OP)
>Help I'm retarded.

>make copy of mesh
>project one copy onto other and use whatever smoothing tools software has
>???
>profit

>>1012660
it's the exact opposite of dissolve edges. dissolve will collapse the edges and bridge the border linearly. flow connect takes a ring of edges, and create an edge loop that blends the border curvature.

>>1012667
yeah swift loop+shift is the same. i just find it easier to select every other alternating edge loops, dissolve them, convert selection to rings, and click flow connect. so it will blend them all in one go insted of manually slicing one by one

>>1012678
> flow connect takes a ring of edges, and create an edge loop that blends the border curvature.
So it's the same as creating edge loop and manually scaling it down a little bit?

> scaling it down
fix: scaling up in this case

>>1012673
Im just trying to improve and I'm looking for help

>>1012679
Thank's your tips help a lot

>>1012675
The question was: how to do that efficiently

>>1012688
Lol here I was thinking those were for males, was wondering where the fuck the small hand goes

>>1012686
>>1012687
that can only look almost correct when the bordering loops are parallel.

>>1012688
also check out this section from the Max Graphite tool help. there's more tools to help niche use cases. ive highlighted some that might be useful.

https://help.autodesk.com/view/3DSMAX/2025/ENU/?guid=GUID-C1D508AB-A3E5-4965-AAE3-4FA5EC48CA75

typical blendlet humilation ritual:

>newbie: hi, i want to do 'X'. 3ds max has it. is there a tool to do 'X' in Blender?
>oldfag: why do you want to do 'X'? use case for doing 'Y'? whe have a tool called 'Z'.

>>1012704
I think I need to explore that section a little bit more, as it looks like those are the tools I was looking for. Thanks!

>>1012667
Those ridges don't have enough supporting lines.

>>1012730
Can you elaborate? I can post a reference image if needed

>>1012644
>>1012709
Blender can do this with LoopTools > Curve or Edge Flow > Set Flow.

- In LoopTools, select the loops you don't want to move.
https://youtu.be/goJ4LVHXkC4?t=346
- In Edge Flow, you select the edges you want to modify. There's also a Set Linear that's handy.
https://youtu.be/IeVlM6RnjMA?t=80

>>1012737
>she needs an addon because >>1012709

>>1012722

yeah. definitely recommended to read through max graphite toolkit documentation. you'll get some "holy shit, that's neat" moment. max graphite got a lot of tools for extremely specific and niche use cases.

the toolkit is so extensive it's insane, almost to the point of """bloat"", that you have no idea what to do with it, UNTIL YOU DO look for it.

if you hang out on 3dsmax official forum (comfy forum btw), the devs are always eager to hear and implement your ideas for new tools, no matter how obscure it is. alot of the tools idea came from the forum.

compare that to blender forum, if you ask for an obscure idea, you'll either get an "NIH syndrome" answer, an "XYZ syndrome" answer (like in >>1012709), or the best case scenario is when someone will point out some github project for a plugin.

for me, i rather have a standard, built-in ""bloated""" toolkit to cover all possible use cases that works, instead of installing dozens of plugins that doesn't always work.

3dsmax GODS stay winning, again.

>>1012741
I almost believed the Blender lies, you made me regrow my faith in the king - Max for life.

>>1012644
>>1012653
>>1012656
>>1012739
>>1012776

b..blenderbros....our response????

>>1012817
LoopTools is better than Max

>>1012823
100% pure fine copium.

>>1012827
Just look at the first video in >>1012737. Curve tool can do edge flow thing, but that's just a single special case of it, it's much more general and can do a lot more.

this why AI is better at your job already