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Anonymous
5/13/2025, 6:18:28 PM No.1011952
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I notice a pattern in these art learning discords that good students with genuine questions get ignored but people who have bullshit questions and look not as great get a bunch of feedback. Is there an explanation?
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Anonymous
5/13/2025, 6:38:29 PM No.1011954
>>1011952 (OP)
Good questions deserve good answers, while bullshit questions deserve bullshit answers. Most people are too stupid to come up with good answers.
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Anonymous
5/13/2025, 6:39:02 PM No.1011955
>>1011952 (OP)
There's a bell curve to everything, including how many people feel comfortable pointing out what is wrong with something that is already competent and asks deep questions that requires time and effort to answer VS questions that are easier to answer and that a larger group are competent and confident to answer.

Also consider how someone who's active in a art discord is already quite a bit more extroverted than typical people who develop deep skills who are too busy/autistic doing stuff themselves to be browsing what other people are up to and answering questions.

If the poster is very good some may also be discouraged by how that person is already on a clear overtake trajectory making them feel insecure answering.
It doesn't have to be any malicious gatekeeping either more 'This person don't need my help, they're already doing too good' That kind of thing.
Anonymous
5/13/2025, 11:44:23 PM No.1011980
>>1011952 (OP)
The better artists are usually too busy to help beginners, and after a while... it's all so tiresome, you see the same patterns
Whoever is answering the questions want to feel good about themselves, it's a type of masturbation, but they can't answer deeper questions because they're not experienced enough
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Anonymous
5/13/2025, 11:48:24 PM No.1011981
>>1011952 (OP)
genuine questions are harder to answer, and the peope who can are likely busier with stuff, be it art or not
Anonymous
5/14/2025, 12:57:51 AM No.1011984
>>1011980
>it's all so tiresome, you see the same patterns
I notice this in college a lot, or same things repeated
I'm still a student, but care to tell me what you mean? Are you saying that in bad way or "ugh I gotta do this AGAIN?" way?
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Anonymous
5/14/2025, 4:03:29 AM No.1011991
>>1011954
came to say this
Anonymous
5/14/2025, 8:50:21 AM No.1012006
>>1011984
I think he means that beginners keep falling into the same pitfalls and generally have a similar level of understanding and ideas. So when answering questions, you end up answering a lot of the exact same thing just with a different spin because beginners are inexperienced and think the problem they run up against is completely unique to their exact situation and think that there's no answer out there except for explicit, step-by-step guidance. That's not really their fault, you don't know what you don't know, so searching for an answer can be difficult if you can't find the terms, but it does mean that for the person answering, you'll end up answering a lot of the same shit over and over.
>Won't someone help me!!!!??
>Scroll up 2 posts

Sometimes there's genuinely interesting questions to answer in that they offer up a bit of a challenge for you yourself, but those are pretty rare. I don't really see answering and solving those problems as masturbatory, but rather a quick bit of practice like a quiz. Something you probably don't often have an opportunity to do in an actual project, but something maybe just outside your range that gives you an opportunity to figure out.
Anonymous
5/21/2025, 7:37:47 AM No.1012446
>>1011952 (OP)
Even though this guide is more for hacking, the mentality is still the same. You need to put in work for good questions otherwise you'll get a shit response in return.
>http://www.catb.org/esr/faqs/smart-questions.html
Anonymous
5/21/2025, 10:55:13 PM No.1012481
>>1011952 (OP)
The difficulty tier list is like this (easiest first):
>bad answer
>bad question
>good question
>good answer
Anonymous
5/26/2025, 12:54:31 PM No.1012683
>>1011952 (OP)
Bullshit questions are easy to answer and the people trying to help don't actually care about anything other than the brownie points that come with saying "I helped!"