>Uzaki and Sakurai get together and fuck
Boring
>Nagatoro and paisen get together
Boring
>Marin and Gojo get together
Boring
>Araragi and Senjougahara get together and fuck
boring
>Chizuru rejects Kazuya
Bad
Dafuq you negros want from a main couple?
Hard mode, no "not to be cringe" as an answer because Rudeus had a whole arc about being impotent despite he went for the harem ending.
Cringe is expected.

>>279567241 (OP)
Polygamy

Koushi rapes Takane

You will never appease f/a/ggots. anons will always find something to complain about, just read what you like.

Netorare
To have someone else date the main heroine

>>279567299
Rudeus
And he was the butt of the joke because of his impotence despite he ends with a harem.

>>279567241 (OP)
>So what the fuck you want?
I want you to stop getting mad at multiple people as though they're all one person.

>>279567241 (OP)
It's just retards and they don't represent anyone who wants cute couples together unlike this shit.

>>279567481
Isn't there a romcom about this rn?
Some high school twink see the alpha gyaru slut getting dicked and falls in love for her?

I want a high school harem MC to turn to the ara ara onee-san figure observing the drama from above and say "actually I want you"

Have you considered the possibility that those examples' problem is simply that the characters themselves are boring?

Fat bastard NTR and 100 chapters of fully detailed aftermath implications. No good ending, just a slow descent into the abyss of despair.

>>279567241 (OP)
There were a million directions left to go with Marin and Gojo, the problem with the ending was it being so abrupt.

>>279567786
Explain Shirogane and Kaguya then
How they went from a couple who got /a/ and the site of the white alien with red eyes together rooting for them to be forgotten after Shirogane pp went into Kaguya's vegana?

>>279567241 (OP)
I want romance authors to stop thinking the answer to a confession is the end of the story.

>>279567241 (OP)
It didn't take 380 chapters of filler to reach the end of the will they/won't they in any of the other mangas you mentioned though

>>279568067
Idk, that series is so completely off my radar I didn't even hear of it until people went ballistic over the sex chapter. Didn't it end shortly after anyways? If it's the same case as OP's exemplar FOTMs then the point stands, and if it isn't then it's not relevant to the discussion.

>>279568511
It last like 6 months after that

>>279568067
The end of Kaguya kind of sucked but the entire manga was derailed because so much of it was dedicated to Ishigami's retarded subplot where every hot girl was conveniently in love with him

>>279567241 (OP)
boring is exactly what I want, not this pathetic shit

>>279567241 (OP)
>Araragi and Senjougahara get together and fuck
This is mainly asshurt from people that think there are girls superior to her. However, this doesn't mean they're better for Ararangi compared to Senjougahara. They're waifufag brains just can't handle the facts.

>>279568943
>They're
Retard alert
Senjougahara just sucks

>>279568993
>Retard alert
Fair
>Senjougahara just sucks
No

>>279567241 (OP)
>Uzaki and Sakurai get together and fuck
I rike it
>Nagatoro and paisen get together
Needed a kiss.
>Marin and Gojo get together
Terribly rushed ending, needed more of them being cute as a couple. At LEAST ten chapters.
>Araragi and Senjougahara get together and fuck
He just walked her home gently.
>Chizuru rejects Kazuya
Don't care about Chorizo and the Spaz

>>279567241 (OP)
As far as his long-runners go, Mashima has a 2:3 record for getting his heroes and heroines together, and they're both for his less popular manga.

All of these are victims of bad pacing. Not bad endings.

>>279567299
Harems are boring. Tons of one note sluts throwing themselves onto you, being fake ass bitches. You will never get "the one" who truly loves and is dedicated to you. Quality > Quantity.

>>279567241 (OP)
Kazuya becomes a cuck for life while Whorezuru flops and fails at her carrier.

>>279567241 (OP)
>>Uzaki and Sakurai get together and fuck
Haven't read it
>>Nagatoro and paisen get together
everything after them making the promise was dumb and ruined the characters, high-five End didn't helped
>>Marin and Gojo get together
Got dragged too long before rushing the ending
>>Araragi and Senjougahara get together and fuck
This one was good but the story is not a romance so it doesn't fit with your other examples
>>Chizuru rejects Kazuya
This is good and fits Chiz's character, the problem was how much it dragged to get to this point

>Dafuq you negros want from a main couple?
Characters developing and acting consistently
No dragging things out without a good justification

>>279567241 (OP)
Not boring, pathethic cucking.

I want Eren to go full genocide.

I want Gojo to go full anal or gtfo
I want Ararararararararagi to go full Snail (or, at least, a tulpa based on Snail).
I want Kazuya go full nuclear, destroy that relationship, push Chizuru into the dark sea, look each other at contempt, become supreme beings full of hate agaisnt each other and start a violent cycle of regret, denial and self harm until they both notice their mistakes and accept each other.

Just to be ran by Truck-kun into an Isekai, where Kazuya was, has been and will alway be some Gigachad who just paid his due in a different life before finally going full Nirvana.

But not that much of it, I dont wan't Mirai Nikki in my comfy manga.

Is it too much? Im just a simple guy with a simple taste.

>>279567241 (OP)
Romance made by men is shit in general, I can never feel an ounce of romantic passion coming out of any character from these series.

>>279569376
Doesn't hold up at all in practice considering how shallow monogamous romances end up being. Just look at OP's examples. For the sake of argument, we could pretend the harem genre actually restricts character development rather than it coming down to the writer's talent and the story's length and harems still could be, and are, much better written.

>>279567495
Anon, that's cringe.

>>279568468
Instead got people complaining the endings were rushed despite they end up together.
Too dragged! REEEE!
Too rushed! REEEEE!
Dafuq you negros want?

>>279567241 (OP)
What do you mean "bad"? Everyone is cheering right now. Well except for the losers that actually read this shit.

I simply do not like any romcom manga with MCs like this. The only ones I like are the professor succubus and the secondary pairing in the office romance manga

>>279570086
Explain negro

>>279567241 (OP)
You can’t have romance without action. That’s why all romance mangas just have an endless chase before an abrupt ending where “le everything all worked out”. Where’s the blood? The guts? The glory? Where’s our battle damaged protagonist getting tended to by his love interest? I’ll take the most bare bones shonen romance over slice of life romance manga all day everyday.

>>279567241 (OP)
>Araragi and Senjougahara get together and fuck
I thought that was a true harem?

>>279570225
Kinda sad that we no longer have true romance manga like Kimi no Iru Machi, the last good one I remember was insomia but after that there's basically nothing.

>>279567241 (OP)
>Dafuq you negros want from a main couple?
Tatami Galaxy put this perfectly "There's nothing as boring as a story about successful love."
Stories with no conflict are boring and stagnate. Once characters get together there's hardly any room for them to grow unless you start adding dogshit like random NTR out of nowhere

>>279567241 (OP)
Baby

>>279567241 (OP)
Is this faggot defending Rent A Girlfriend? Go fuck off.

>>279567241 (OP)
I want to see the MCs mindbroken and raped until they enjoy it. All of these skinny twink faggots belong in a dress and a cage with a dick in their ass.

>>279569174
Edens Zero was Shiki x Rebecca? Who ended up with Homura? Hermit ended up with Weisz?

>>279570381
most successful love stems directly from people overcoming their conflicts and problems
there's nothing interesting about successful love that is obtained with little hardship, but that is such a tiny minority that it has no real place in this conversation
you can have conflict without the MC being an unlikable pussy or the main girl being a bitch
you can have these things without the story being a hair away from misery/cuck porn

>>279567241 (OP)
>So what the fuck you want?
More age gap romances where the superior loli(s) win
Araragi has shinobu
Rudy has Roxy literally DESTINED to impregnate her
Need more loli harems like blue archive

>>279567241 (OP)
>>279570225
>>279570381
Incredible how many people think that once a couple hooks up that they completely stop learning about each other and their relationship doesn't continue to grow and change. There's an entire world of different mediums, demographics, and genres for you to explore, but you don't even have to do that. Jitsu wa Watashi wa, Angel Densetsu, Horimiya, and Tsurezure Children are all shounen romcoms that prove the point.

>>279570225
Kanokari is shonen romance
And the reason battle shonen romance is accepted is because its does not go deep into the romance part
Otherwise there would be tons of "Is Goku a good father?" discussions if battle shonen goes just an eenie weenie deep on the romance.

>>279567241 (OP)

>>279567241 (OP)
BokuYaba did it right.
Also people didn´t call Marin and Gojo getting together boring. In fact they didn´t call it anything because the damn manga ended two chapters later.

>>279570768
>Horimiya
Once the anime came
People demonized Hori and the girls called her homophobic
>Jitsu wa Watashi wa
No one tolerated anime Youko
>Tsurezure Children
Really nigga?

>>279568067
This is a Christian board

>>279570768
Most of those stories you posted have other legs to stand on to have different conflicts in the story
(Jitsu wa watashi wa doing the whole secret monster society thing, Angel Densetsu dealing with outward appearances and how people perceive you etc.) But the romcoms that only hinge on the "Will they won't they" dynamic like Kaguya-Sama, Uzaki, Nagatoro, etc. have nothing to offer as soon as the main couple hook up.

>>279570992
>homophobic
What's wrong with that?

>>279570890
>BokuYaba
>Right
By right i take it they get together and then the story just focus on them hanging out and getting to know each other and finding out both are as engaging as Solo Leveling characters.
Bokuyaba is just gosling porn

>>279567241 (OP)
Kazuya should sell Chizuru to arab sex slave traders or to africa. Such a whore deserves nothing less than being a sex slave for the rest of her life.

>>279567241 (OP)
Naruto and Hinata was unironically great and I'm not even a shonenfag

>>279570871
Godsopp truly the most original anime character

>>279567241 (OP)
Who the fuck are you talking about? If you talking about /a/ as "le hivemind community" then it all boils down to being contrarian and shitting on literally anything, it's the nature of this place. If you go to individual level then you get all kinds of takes, but they won't be counted as one "general /a/ opinion". That's all it is

>>279571008
If a character has literally no personality or life outside of tying the knot then the story will have nowhere to go after the fact, sure, but then you're dealing with a far more important problem of the characters being inhuman, which isn't what the other posters were talking about. One anon suggested conflict disappears once the characters get together and the other wants it to be accessory to something completely different. Even if you want to move the goalposts to generalized conflict and themes, that's still essentially a separate matter from relationships evolving.

>>279570890
>BokuYaba
lol

It says a lot about bokuyaba when the author is a blatant shotacon and the doujins have the heroine becoming a futa and raping the MC

>Wins by doing everything right

>>279572051
>needs a god to brainwash his gfs into falling for him

>>279570225
I know you're probably joking, but I unironically agree.
Dedicated romances always make the romance into the goal. Once the characters hook up, it's either over or it becomes a zombie because the pursuit was the main driver of the plot and the premise has completely changed.
If the core concept of the series is the hero fighting villains, then he can do it alongside his crush, alongside his girlfriend, alongside his wife, or alongside the mother of his children. You can develop the relationship without actually changing the story.

>>279567241 (OP)
>entire series is the author shtting in your mouth
>retards shocked about the tiny last droplet from the author
Nah man, if anything I like the seething, 10/10.

>>279567241 (OP)
all that biased seething, holy shiet

>>279572199
>brainwashed girlfriendlet
lol

>>279567241 (OP)
Even prison school is better than modern romcoms.

>>279567241 (OP)
>>Araragi and Senjougahara get together and fuck
>boring
Cat should have won

>>279569174
I miss her

>>279573503
>Dedicated romances always make the romance into the goal
They usually don't, actually. The characters enter the story with some other goal and the chance meeting throws them off course somehow. It doesn't make the goal disappear. Hana Yori Dango's protagonist wants to get into a prestigious law school to support her poor family, for example. You say the premise changes, but chemistry is all about chemical reactions, i.e. change.

>>279567241 (OP)
most of these were fine, for the most part, it's just that kanokari is trash. nobody cares about romcoms being repetitive, it's not great but it's not the end of the world. kanokari however is just absolute trash dumpster fire... is what i wanna say, but it's not even burning, it's kinda smoldering and stinking the place up. nobody's shitting on it because it did or does something different than other romcoms, they're shitting on it because it's kanokari, the trashiest romcom to ever exist.

I don't want the 'confession' or finally holding hands to be the end of the story, with constant flirtatious teasing throughout the series only for it to be played out for comedic purposes and nothing actually happens. This is why I hate romcoms. They're ALL like this in some way! It makes everything so samey, predictable, and formulaic. Japan doesn't know how to make a good love story.

>>279575173
For starters, why are you looking for a good love story exclusively from comedies?

>>279567299
/thread

>>279575173
Maybe stop reading normalfag romcom shit and start reading visual novels, the best medium for romance.

I need more cucking

>>279567241 (OP)
Anjou and stop projecting your envy for big dick with racism, it's pathetic

>>279567241 (OP)
I want couple to get together within the first few chapters and then the following chapters are them going on dates and living life as a couple

>>279567241 (OP)
I just want Jitsu Wa Watashi Wa again. But no else can seem to do it.

>>279577494
>reading
>visual novels
>medium
if being not a normalfag means being this much of a retard I'm not sure if I'd accept that tradeoff

>>279567241 (OP)
Romance is boring, OP. I don't know what to tell you.

>>279567241 (OP)
Chizuru rapes Kazuya and Kazuya rejects her after that.
She's already sexually assaulted him. Just finish what you started.

>>279578015
Kazuya rapes Chizuru and she accepts him after that.

I want Kazuya to go full gay submissive bottom

>>279577970
ESLchad, there is absolutely nothing wrong with what you quoted.

>>279567241 (OP)
oh i don't know maybe it's because none of these people are pathetic cucks like kazuya?

>>279567570
/THREAD

>>279567241 (OP)
Arranged marriage cohabitation in high school

And the leads have to consummate it

And the first scene or even page is MMC nutting inside FMC or the immediate aftermath

>>279574715
I'll defend anon here and assume he means shonen romcoms.

>>279567299
>>279569376
ENTER

>>279567299
nobody likes harem endings

>>279568067
>>279568511
Nobody actually got mad about the sex chapter, it was just people being stupid and pretending to be mad for a laugh.

You'll note that when people talk about the worst parts of Kaguya, it's 99% either the final arc (ending was okay but the final arc sucked) or the entire Ishigami protagonist switch.

>>279579127
>muh brainwashing

>>279572051
>Tricks his girlfriends into cheating on him

>>279580313
>cheating
>no dick involved

>>279567241 (OP)
This guy is a victim. It's easy to call him a simp since you losers are all watching it unfold as a viewer/tourist.

>>279580694
We are at levels of simpery/cuckoldry here that aren't humanly possible.

>>279575173
Actually that's the best way to write a love story. All their classic golden age Hollywood movies are the same way. They almost always end with the characters kissing for the first time as the music swells. And fairy tales always end with "and they lived happily ever after," because very few people actually wants to see a real day to day relationship. At best it's pleasant, but kind of dull. At worst their relationship is strained by cheap drama.

>>279570482
As far as I know, Homura is still single by the end, unless she and Creed got to meet again in U0 after their new childhood incident.

>has his own apartment
>has 2 parents that still love him somehow
>had $250k to spend on a cunt for her dreams + some more since he sheltered her and her rent was literally free for a while.
What the fuck? What are my chances with women if my life is literally worse than Kazuya's? I'm about to hit 30 and also starting to go bald btw.

>>279574563
At least we still have her game coming next month.

>>279567241 (OP)
It's more that Chorizo is a shit girl and the guy's a fucking retard simp who should've either gone for another girl or quit trying to buy a whore's love years ago by now. But hey, "people" are still buying this shit.

>>279580694
It's true. Except in cases where the guy is utterly beyond reproach anons will reflexively pin all blame on the guy. It's a kind of internalized latent simpery. She is in the wrong.

>>279567241 (OP)
bro who the fuck ordered humiliation ritual. chizuru is a shit but this is just author's thinly veiled masochism

>>279580694
nobody forced him to chase a whore

>>279581340
The plot did

I want for this pathetic cuck to grow some fucking balls and realize he is wasting his youth (and money) on a vapid slut.

An arc about the dude going "you know what, you are too much of a pain in the ass and not worth it anymore, bye" and start living happily, meeting new people and finally finding a proper girlfriend would be the ultimate catharsis. But that will never happen.

>>279567241 (OP)
Why do you expect any genuine consensus on /a/? People here can shit on the series even if they don't really dislike, just to make fellow anon mad. Nothing will ever be enough. So your thinking is fundamentally flawed

>>279567647
he already was in love with her before that, then he fucked her too and his oneitis got worse, didn't help to have a threesome with her and her sister

>>279580991
>he sheltered her
When? He's been crashing at her place for a month rent free and this is the last night before he leaves

>>279567241 (OP)
Honestly, this chapter made me self reflect a bit. I guess I am kinda simping for someone. People can easily take advantage of you when you're lonely. All she had to do was smile and play along. Chizuru did exactly that. Fuck her, but also fuck Kazuya for being so dumb.
I rate this ending 10/10

>>279582447
oink oink paypiggy

>>279582447
I fell so much in love with the 2D girl anime aesthetic that I don't care about 3DPDs that much (except for porn).
I still want a girlfriend just to have children and not letting my family die out (my older sister is in her late 30s and has still no children or boyfriend I know about) but even if I find the perfect girlfriend I wouldn't care much about her and would only be in a relationship for children.

>>279582687
I might not an expert on the subject but I don't think that's the best approach about having kids, anon
at that point you're better off renting a womb. You're gonna hate every waking second you are together with a woman you don't care about. It wouldn't be fair for you, for the woman or the kids

Plenty of what you see is just contrarianism or shitposting. Nonetheless the stories of these were a bit dry at times. Judo took too long in Nagatoro and it ends in a handshake. Marin and Gino just so happen to say they like each in a somewhat artificial manner and a quick timeskip to ending. Uzaki is still running so it’s not over like the others. Most romcoms and some fans are focused on the destination to root for their racehorse but the journey there matters too. Honestly kanokari is pretty realistic for the amount of BS present. If there’s one thing women can do, it’s waste the time of a guy they aren’t sure of or don’t respect. What I’m curious about is how he can afford paying her for so long.

>>279570890
Nope. They got together and a bunch of artificial drama piled up on top of them
>muh keeping it a secret from our friends
>muh shark teeth cunt party-thrower
>muh keeping it a secret from her agency
>muh kana band side drama
Did you read this week's chapter? Ichi slept over at Yamada's and NOTHING happened. Christmas and New Year's came and went, Ichi literally proposed to her, and they still haven't SUPER FUCKED each other brains out.

BokuYaba is the most recent example of what happens when a romance series goes past the main couple hooking up: it fizzles out, focuses on side plots, pushes dumb drama, and goes nowhere.
>b-but he fondled her tits!
Over her clothes. Realistically, they should have fucked each other right there and then.

>>279567241 (OP)
When did I ever call kino boring?

>>279580694
>>279581158
She is a whore. You cant expect anything better from her. It's pointless to pin blame on her when she's just doing what whores do. This >>279581984 is what majority of anon wants from him. It's not about victim blaming but wanting him to have some self respect.

>>279583429
>You cant expect anything better from her.
Case in point. Simp.

>>279582447
It's no shame to walk out, anon. Do it without hesitation or regret, she doesn't earn your money, you earn your money.

>>279582687
I kinda get this, but at the same time, I feel that if I met a woman who is also really into the autistic stuff I'm into, I'd turn into a simp as well.

>>279583519
I don't understand this mentality at all. Why would I want to be best friends with my wife/gf? Only literal fags are friends with women.

>>279582447
My best friend was like this. He didn't realise how much he was being used for too long. A year and half later, he's with a far better girl and cringe everytime we jokingly bring up her antics from then. Thing can get better.

>>279583478
If I was a simp i wouldn't be putting her down.

>>279583519
we all do, anon
there are no exceptions
you lose when you fall in love

>>279583570
some faggot would call him simp for moving on and not crying about that stupid cunt for years.

>>279580237
wrong, homo

I call him a simp because I'm afraid of turning into one. I'm projecting and I'm scared as fuck.

>>279581984
She's not a "slut". Sluts are alright as long as they don't hurt men.
She's a whore. Whore exploit men and drain their resources.

>>279583667
just dont talk to women and you'll be fine

>>279583579
You're hand-waving away her flaws to focus on the man's. It's an kind of internalized simpery as I said. It's not pointless to blame her. She shouldn't be a whore. She shouldn't be doing what she's doing. She is in the wrong. She should change.

>>279567241 (OP)
Did this actually end with her turning him down? Kek.

>>279583758
Hadn't actually ended. You know, we could get another plot twist now.

>>279583667
It's understandable. Just write something for yourself that you can look at if you ever get in a situation with women.

>>279568067
>How they went from a couple who got /a/ and the site of the white alien with red eyes together rooting for them to be forgotten after Shirogane pp went into Kaguya's vegana?

The real problem wasn't the sex, it was the series failing to maintain interest after they got together. Having them become a couple in the middle was a bold but ultimately failed attempt. Sadly there's a reason that most romances end when the main couple get together, and most of the rest have them together from near the start and are just about the relationship.

>>279583755
>She shouldn't be a whore. She shouldn't be doing what she's doing. She is in the wrong. She should change.
Yeah, let's continue to cry about how much of a piece of shit she is instead of suggesting practical solutions. Idiot.

>>279567241 (OP)
>So what the fuck you want?
Siblings incest.

I want to know the point of this retarded series.

>>279584062
>a woman behaving decently should never be suggested
>let’s cry endlessly about what a piece of shit he is and excuse her behavior no matter what
Simp kys

>we hate harems REEEEEE
>were praising Xenoblade cringe photo for years
So which one?

>>279567241 (OP)
boring is better than bad

>>279584402
Why are you provoking people into replying to your own anti-harem posts?

>>279584402
Only /v/ermings praise that "le chad mc, anime could never" photo.
And a lot of /v/ermins are failed normalfags.

>>279584316
I wanna know what love is
I want you to show me

>>279584402
People hate harems where Mc in indecisive fag who can't pick a girl, lead on other girls and take too long. People love actual harems where MC actual dates and fucks everyone. See 100 kano, mushoku tensei

>>279584711
Xenoblade harem happened behind the scene.

>>279584711
>Brainwash
Is just safe-horny for fags who feel guilty reading mind control doujins
>Rudeus
The fag who was made fun by its own audience because of his impotence after fucking the red hair tsundere
yeah no

>>279583667
don't put women in a pedestal and treat them like regular people

>>279581984
>and start living happily, meeting new people and finally finding a proper girlfriend

>>279584451
Other way around, nothing is worse than boring. See how no one discuss boring shows, but bad shows are usually memorable.

How did he do it?

Has there ever been a manga this absolutely fucking dogshit before? Because if you try to tell me otherwise, I won’t believe you

>>279584711

>>279583300
I prefer the other work from that author, with the autismal basketball chad kid.

>>279587146
I wonder. Is it dogshit because the story REALLY IS bad or is it because is too realistic?

>>279569894
>the problem was how much it dragged to get to this point
I was dragged as much as people gave a shit about te story.

>>279582447
Most relationships are inherently transactional and based on convenience to a degree. I agree with this sentiment that Rent a girlfriend does a great show at making sure you don't end up like fucking Kazuya who went chasing after a hoe who prioritized whoring herself over him.

>>279582687
no offense anon but you're probably better off donating to a sperm bank if all you care about is continuing your bloodline
if you can't care for a potential girlfriend I'm not sure how you'll be able to care for children

>>279567241 (OP)
>Th-That's life!
>Have fun with your bvll Chizuru, I'll give you some extra money so you two can go out!!!!
>Oh I'm a kek I'm a kek I'm a kekky kekky kek!

Hi guys! What's going on in this thread?

>>279572051
This mf got 100 bitches like it was nothing

>>279567241 (OP)
>Uzaki was kinda meh and boring since the start, their fucking was fine
>Nagatoro started going downhill before they got together and was really disappointing
>marin and gojo lost it's track, created artificial drama and ended abruptly
>anjou is together with her nerd but he still acts like a homo instead of fucking her
The most popular romances are shit.
I need something new from this author

>>279567241 (OP)
I want rom com and slice of life anime to die a gruesome death so that we can get anime with action, plot, and fucking ends in 1-2 years.

>>279588689
well, the god responsible of giving soulmates to people fucked up while watching a gibli movie and wrote 100 instead of 1 in rentarou's soulmate certificate

What can you expect from authors from a country where most people have never had a romantic relationship in their lives?
Just expect perfect happy or misery porn.

>>279587250
Usually this sort of tolerance to getting stepped on while lead along only happens to faceless chat members on some kind of e-thot's stream. I don't know how things are over in Japan, but I guess this guy's an extreme brand of herbivore or something, so maybe it's plausible. Cucks have existed since forever.

>>279588632
Six fingers!

I blame us!
Romance is for bitches!
Men should strive to make their mark im this world!
When the fuck did women became all-important?
Boys be ambitous!
*sigh*

>>279582777
Thank you Jesus

>>279584402
>everyone on 4chan is one person
Gigaretard
>>279584711
Kanokano, Shinmai Maou, and Strike the Blood would probably be more effective examples.
>>279584773
The whole plot is centered around a monogamous romance with a split-personality girl until the literal last 10 seconds. It still doesn't suffer from the proposed issue with indecisive protagonists, and all 3 girls build their relationship with Rex over the course of the story, so that aspect is irrelevant both literally and rhetorically.
>>279584951
>the protagonist can't ever have an embarrassing experience or else the whole genre is shit

>>279570378
>the last good one I remember was insomia
Even that one had an absolutely terrible "open" ending faggotory. Mangaka are just INCAPABLE of ending their story on a good note. Kinda makes sense if you think about it. Someone who is good at drawing is not necessarily also good at writing. That's why we always get this cookie cutter tropey shit. %90 of mangaka can not write for shit only draw.

>>279580237
are throuples fine?

>>279591878
source?

>>279570043
>people have opinions
you are genuinely autistic

>>279570043
Have you heard of moderation?

>>279593782
>4chan
>moderation

>>279592240
Gal's can't be kind to Otaku

Does Chizuru have a personality? Evertime I see this slop (against my will) she seems vapid. Genuinely what does she do outside of her work and "looking good"

>>279567241 (OP)
Murder suicide

>>279567241 (OP)
Try not reading boring shit.
>B-but
Shut up contrarian BITCH.

>>279580296
>the entire Ishigami protagonist switch.
Goddmammit, that was atrocious, not even Kanokari's current state can compete with that and not even Chizuru can compete with how fucking awful Tsubame was, and Chizuru is a disgusting person. Aka even added his shit preaching to add shit to the shit
I'm still pissed at it even now

>>279594335
>not even Kanokari's current state can compete with that
Yeah nah, fuck off.

>>279588770
>>anjou is together with her nerd but he still acts like a homo instead of fucking her
When character solve most of their issues before getting together you'll end up with forced drama and absolute boredom. Look at what happened at bokuyaba
Anjou is doing great, expect for the midget chapters, nobody cares about her

>>279594393
It's fucking true. Nobody is preaching, Chizuru sucks but didn't reach Tsubame's levels (I'll offer him pity sex, lmao), Kazuya is fucking angry and it's clear the relationship can't end here, unlike Ishigami and Tsubame's
That arc is one of the worst in romcom history, only maybe domestic girlfriend can compete with it

>>279594393
Its a rent a girlfreind fan that has reached the bargaining stage.
>Its not as bad as X yet
A classic

>>279594624
? I was a huge fan of Kaguya before even starting reading rent. You are mistakenly seeing it as me defending the trainwreck when in reality my goal was shitting once again on the peak of shit arcs that was the ishigami confession arc
You can suck my dick

>>279594499
Nope, fuck off. I don't need to elaborate further.

>>279595039
Still gargling hacka's balls and dick like his ex wife with his new boyfriend I see. Stockholm syndrome is truly a nightmare

>>279595176
>Y isn't as bad as X
>WAHHHHHH HACKA DICKSUCKER
Kanokorifags everyone.

>>279595331
>Kanokorifags
Only one person is replying to you anon, not multiple ones. Craving for Hacka's cum is clouding your judgment

>>279594415
the midget is terrible but seto still freaking out over a kiss or a hug.
One thing bisque did right is that gojo couldn't resist and had to jerk off after, seto should have purple balls at this point

>>279567241 (OP)
> Contrariarism: the thread

>>279594143
>Implying Makeine won't end the same way.
Anime basically did.

>>279595571
>One thing bisque did right is that gojo couldn't resist and had to jerk off after
NTA, but that seriously happened?

>>279593888
thanks

>>279568067
The anger was so obviously manufactured I’m surprised people act like that was the problem people had with the manga. All the fans actually liked that they had sex but the manga had already been on a downward spiral at that point and it was seemingly randomly thrown in there before the beginning of the worst final arcs from a once strong series.

>>279592240
Gals Can't Be Kind to Otaku?! or Otaku ni Yasashii Gal wa Inai?! One of the best current romcoms imo, and probably the only one I've read that makes you feel like harem/throuple ending is the only good ending. MC can be a bit of an emo bitch from time to time, but he's not completely devoid of personality and does have some good things about him.

>>279595571
>but seto still freaking out over a kiss or a hug.
Yeah and he knows it's a huge problem and is gradually getting over it. He initiated kiss, gave Anjou an hickey, called out when she was being dumb, etc. If they got over their problems it would be too boring

>>279595655
>and it was seemingly randomly thrown in there
Damage control most likely, just like cutting short Osaragi's chapters

Bump

>>279595617
yes

>>279580694
>>279581158
Almost every guy has had a chick that they were hopelessly in love with and would do everything in their power to get her to love him, even if all it amounted to was just putting her on a pedestal. It's understandable to go through this phase. However, it's not excusable tor repeat the same mistake over and over again and to not change for the better.

>>279584402
Depends on who you're talking to. Did you need someone to demonstrate to you that differing people have differing opinions?

>>279567241 (OP)
It want a co dependant relationship that end poorly.

>>279598908
>it's not excusable tor repeat the same mistake over and over again and to not change for the better
>no mention of her behavior at all
Literally every time

>>279599214
Sociopaths and scammers are inherently evil people that are aware of their deeds and refuse to change unless it benefits them. Simps are just misguided men, which is why illustrating the error of their ways can be worth pointing out, at least, to some of them.

Never read the manga but kept hearing about it. Did she at least him fuck her once? If not then she's worse then a whore. At least a whore gives you something for paying her.

>>279567241 (OP)
I want to see a marriage before Luffy finds the One Piece.

At this rate, Kazuya and Chizuru will still be flirting with each other in an assisted living apartment.

>>279599251
So it's not worth pointing out that she is an evil sociopath, but the guy might hear us through the screen? Got it

>>279599453
>So it's not worth pointing out that she is an evil sociopath
Everybody knows this already though, it's just that simps choose to ignore this because they want to cope and believe this bitch that clearly only wants their money actually loves him for him. If you cannot apply common sense nor learn from your mistakes, then no one can help, not that there are many people in the world altruistic enough to become a guardian angel to someone that shoots themselves in the foot like this. It must sucks if something so obvious bothers you.

>>279599610
So now the simp can’t be helped? Or isis stating plainly what the simp is choosing I ignore at his peril somehow not helpful? You seem confused. In any case you people are the types who blame men for how awful women are which is itself a form of simping even if you acknowledge that they’re bad. What could a woman do to possibly draw criticism? Nothing, apparently. She is never in the wrong.

>>279599942
>So now the simp can’t be helped?
I mentioned earlier there is potential for SOME of them to change. But it wasn't a guarantee. Basically you either see the error of your ways or you repeat the same missteps and rot.
>In any case you people are the types who blame men for how awful women are which is itself
But it's true. Women in any culture are only as powerful as men allow them to be. Why else do you think e-whores or even stuff like pretend-girlfriends are such a prevalent phenomena? It's due to the notion that as long as a woman is offering any sort of attention or "love", no price is too high nor is there any abuse men wouldn't take for it. If you get rid of that mindset, that pussy supercedes all else, what power is the woman left with? If your problem is women being untouchable, you should have the problem with the guys that are throwing away everything just to have a tiny bit of their validation.

>>279600257
Okay so you literally are a simp who thinks women should never be criticized and everything is men’s fault

>>279600573
Well, if you support guys ruining their lives for women, just say so.

>>279600608
I never said that because I don’t. You on the other hand actually believe that women being bad is the fault of men. You are a simp.

>>279600642
>You on the other hand actually believe that women being bad is the fault of men.
The fault of men who give them everything they have just because they want some pussy. The same men you think deserve pity, btw.
>>279580694
>This guy is a victim

>>279567241 (OP)
Only cucks like you complained about the main girl and boy getting together delusional faggot

>>279600790
And the woman has no fault at all according to you because you are a simp. I’m not indifferent to drug dealers or pornographers or something just because they’re being enabled. You’ve deeply internalized the idea that women can do no wrong you’re as big of a simp as he is

>>279567241 (OP)
>Dafuq you negros want from a main couple?
I want the guy to be a cuckold in a chastity cage and main girl to just fuck every guy.

>>279601067
>just because they’re being enabled.
Ah, so you just overlook the bigger fish to fry. I see.

>>279567241 (OP)
Kazuya just needed to do something similar to pic related and Chizuru was all his. But noooo, he was too beta to do it.

>>279601153
I don’t know what point you think you’re making. You are a simp who thinks women can do no wrong you’re at least as pathetic as he is. At least you just admitted it up front.

>>279567241 (OP)
This author unironically should be killed, god what a fucking faggot

>>279601313
What's wrong with thinking that women's state of being is due to guys like Kazuya?

>>279601642
She’s a whore what she’s doing is wrong she’s a terrible person. Your simp brain is getting confused because she’s a woman so nothing could possibly be her fault.

>>279567241 (OP)
I want them not to drag fucking shit for so long.

That's all I ask don't fucking MAKE ME WASTE MY FUCKING TIME WITH 3458934 CHAPTERS OF FUCKING NOTHING YOU STUPID MOTHERFUCKING RETARD DUMBFUCKS. I FUCKING ONLY ASK YOU TO FUCKING END YOUR PIECE OF SHIT QUICKLY IF YOU'RE NOT GONNA PUT ANY EFFORT ON IT

>>279601778
>She’s a whore what she’s doing is wrong she’s a terrible person
Sure, but if that's the case, then what's the problem with my statement? Her current lifestyle is facilitated by guys who try to quell their loneliness by paying money for these silly services. If those same men decided enough's enough and don't put up with it, she's at least forced to actually sell her body instead of being a bitch that gives fake pep talks if she wants easy cash. Or, to actually find a legit relationship instead of trying to be some "independent" woman.

>>279601922
She’s knowingly destroying lives. What could she possibly do for you to decide her actions weren’t all men’s fault? I don’t think this would be difficult to understand if she weren’t a woman. Are you indifferent to drug cartels?

>>279602113
It's comparable to the people that fall for blatantly obvious schemes that are meant to take your money all because they themselves want to get rich quick. Or hell, even those broads that swear their criminal bfs are completely reformed only to end up beaten to death later on. It's not accurate to say there isn't heavy wrong doing on the party doing the crime, but those who fall victim to them set themselves up for such failure that I find it hard to pity them.

>>279602302
I wouldn’t say
>The murderer only did it because the victim made themselves such an easy target.
>What else would we expect them to do? Not murder someone? I don’t feel that bad for him but he is a victim. Simps will tell you that women’s misbehavior is somehow men’s fault collectively. She’s a terrible person she’s definitely worse. It’s the most obvious statement in the world unless you’re a simp making excuses for her because she’s a woman. I see this all the time it’s some deeply internalized simpery

>they're still going at it

FISCHL! PRINZESSIN DER VERURTEILUNG! A PRECIOUS TREASURE! A GODDESS SENT DOWN FROM THE HEAVENS ABOVE! A BEAUTIFUL MAIDEN IN LOVE!

honestly who cares what they think
I feel bad for Kazuya, hes mentally ill and clearly doesnt notice. Hes not in his right mind and Chizuru is an evil scum like person who clearly deserves to rot in hell for taking advantage of someone who is clearly not capable of making decisions on his own.

>>279602773
>hes mentally ill and clearly doesnt notice
Mainly because of how his family and friends treat him. Not a single person genuinely cares for him and gives him positive reinforcement to boost his confidence.

>>279593888
>Gal's can't be kind to Otaku
why not?

>>279594037
nope, she has very few to no friends. i don't read the manga much but she literally has no friend group she hangs out with

>>279594037
She want to be an actress
Is picrel role-model because on how she is at the top on the business
She used to be a tsundere but at this point in this story Reiji already dropped the gimmick
Is not a one-trick pony like most popular heroines
But neither pixie girl who was tailored for the MC
Moreover, she is a normalfag

>>279602804
He doesn't need positive reinforcement. Positive reinforcement is how you encouraged and entire generation to devolve into a bunch of walking vaginas. What he needs is people to tell him to stop being a massive goddamn pussy full stop.

>>279603000
Why is that Sumi pic so low quality despite being so high res?

>>279567241 (OP)
Wait, that was THE ENDING???
BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

>>279602663
>The murderer only did it because the victim made themselves such an easy target.
We're talking about someone that decided a violent convict would make good husband material, kek. They certainly did themselves no favors.

>>279567241 (OP)
>Uzaki and Sakurai get together and fuck
Kino, still enjoying the story
>Nagatoro and paisen get together
Kino, was a goated story. Hope theres more to the story one day about their life together.
>Marin and Gojo get together
It's okay, the bullshit the author pulled at the end for forced drama with the childhood friend was fucking retarded and meant nothing.
>Araragi and Senjougahara get together and fuck
Agreed, Bakemonogatari is fucking trash.
>Chizuru rejects Kazuya
Its shit. Blame it on the mentally ill author that fell in love with Chizuru and said no one can have her but him. This story is literally because the authors a fucking retard. This isn't even a joke, look it up.

>>279603762
The murderer is worse than the victim even if you don't pity the victim. Chizuru is worse. If you feel the need to leap to her defense and say that all of her misbehavior is men's fault, and she can't be blamed for her actions, you are a simp. You instinctively reject that she could ever be in the wrong because you are a simp. It's like talking to a brick wall.

>>279594499
Nah. I agree that it's bad, but it's a ,,realistic" kind of bad. Cause I can definitely imagine an actual person doing shit like this.
What annoyed me more was him almost getting together with Miko, only for them to suddenly becoming clueless at the end just to set up a shitty ,,new war begins" bit.

>>279604160
NTA, but to reverse all of your arguments.
If a woman goes alone to India, gets shitfaced, acts like a slut and ends up getting raped, that's obviously wrong on the rapist's part.
Now consider her doing the same trip four more times, each time acting just as much of a slut. Are you still gonna go ,,what a poor victim" over her?

>>279598577
In which chapter?

>>279567299
fpbp
denying this means low T

>>279567241 (OP)
>>Uzaki and Sakurai get together and fuck
>Boring
Nah, this is the normal and expected outcome for 2 adults in a committed relationship.

>>279567241 (OP)
>>Uzaki and Sakurai get together and fuck
Self-insertslop for worthless trannies
>>Nagatoro and paisen get together
Self-insertslop for worthless trannies
>>Marin and Gojo get together
Self-insertslop for worthless trannies
>>Araragi and Senjougahara get together and fuck
Self-insertslop for worthless trannies
>>Chizuru rejects Kazuya
Self-insertslop for worthless trannies (realistic)
>>Rudeus had a whole arc about being impotent despite he went for the harem ending.
Kill yourself, worthless self-inserting ESL tranny

>>279567241 (OP)
they are both shitty people that don't deserve happiness, it's a good ending, it would make it even better to see the future when the girl has moved from compensated dating to full prostitution and the mc is still unmarried and just goes exclusively with prostitutes, like a fated meeting yet again.

>>279567786
You posted a couple that works even less than chizuru and kazuya kek
They don't even share one moment of growth, kazuya and chizuru at least had the chizuru grandma moment, these two don't even have one, just endless autistic teenager fighting that is misinterpreted as romance.
And to top it off they never even get together in manga, they just one illustration that is not even canon that shows them married.
Romcoms is supposed to have romance, not just com.

op why didn't you mention the best?

>>279567241 (OP)

>>279567241 (OP)
>what do you want
I want Kazuya to hang himself and Chizuru to get killed by a steamroller.

>>279603774
>Agreed, Bakemonogatari is fucking trash
Guess you are a catcuck.

>>279605435
What happened between the first part and the sex was fucking boring trash, including first kiss and confession

>>279567241 (OP)
>Dafuq you negros want from a main couple?
An interesting story.

>>279606876
>Guess you are a catcuck.
nah crab is fine, i just didnt like how artsy it tried to be

Kanokari end may have high chamces to repeat the AKB49 end.
The girl AKB MC got saddled with is literally Protoruka.

>>279608517
wtf that's the same artist? surely not the same writer because AKB49 bad in a different direction

>rag being hailed as feminist literature
KINOKARI

>>279610206
>surely not the same writer
Complicated, bc despite of being written by a board of writers under a pseudonym, Reiji had a progressively major input as the story advanced. The final chapters, the end and that page were all Reiji's.

>>279605944
Aka hates his editor?

>>279570678
Unfortunately age gap in japan is dying due to anglo zeitgeist
It will be even more difficult for hebe (age gap) love to pop out now that Japan cucked out and raised the aoc

>>279604616
i don't know. I think it was just after he took her to the motel for the succubus cosplay pictures and hotdogged her with his boner