These are the winners.

Weekly Shoseki Ranking Top 500 (6/2/25 - 6/8/25)

1. SAKAMOTO DAYS #22
2. Ichi The Witch #3
8. Akane-banashi #17
20. Hima-Ten! #4
22. Shinobi Undercover #3
25. Kill Blue #10

>>279575090

I am the worst schizo in /wsj/ threads

>>279575021 (OP)

>>279575559
>Can't show an actual sales chart or else they'll find out the difference is literally negligible

>>279575621
>p-please show a less embarrassing looking chart!

>Up until last week, Ichi fans were saying, "Ichi's sales double with each new volume," and "Ichi will easily surpass Sakamoto's with just three volumes." No wonder manga like this gets bashed
>Perhaps it's about time the editorial department realized they had no choice but to push Bachi further after seeing Ichi's pathetic sales.
>I don't think we're going to get past Iruma, Ichi. Let alone Actage. I guess we need Matsuki for Shiro.
>It's sad that Ichi shows no sign of surpassing the one year old Acta. Make use of Shiro-chan at least as much as you do over the sex offender
>Of the four pillars excluding One Piece, Hakobachi made it onto the Oricon charts for the fifth week, but what's up with Sakaichi? He's not even making it onto the third week
>I can't stop crying at this garbage that only made it into the top 150 of existing issues in a week. I couldn't believe it, so I randomly checked the POS and found out that Kagura Bachi has been in the top 150 of existing issues for the two months leading up to the next manga. That's just too strong. It's in a completely different league from that garbage called Ichi. No wonder the existing issues sell 30,000 a month

Weekly Shonen

>>279575641
>vol 1 — 81 175 in 10 weeks
>vol 2 — 87 804 in 10 weeks
>Stagnated between the first 2 volumes, vol 3 looks like it'll be a hard drop

>>279575634
A growth % chart would show a diving graph after every boost which is misleading

Shoseki Top 500 (June 9)
13. Sakamoto Days #22
20. Ichi the Witch #3
33. Akane-banashi #17
86. Shinobi Undercover #3
88. Kill Blue #10
90. Hima-ten! #4
181. Syd Craft: Love is a Mystery

Shoseki Top 500 (June 10)
13. Sakamoto Days #22
18. Ichi the Witch #3
36. Akane-banashi #17
100. Hima-ten! #4
101. Kill Blue #10
105. Shinobi Undercover #3
362. Syd Craft: Love is a Mystery

Kagurabachi thread: defended till page 10
Ichi thread: died with 280 posts
Otr thread: alive with 230 posts
Nue : died with 190 posts
Chojo: died with 110 posts
Sakamoto thread: died with 103 posts
Akane thread: died with 101 posts
Himaten thread: died with 73 posts
Syd Craft thread: died with 70 posts
Shinobi thread: died with 58 posts
Kiyoshi thread: died with 37 posts
Blue Box: died with 28 posts
Roboco thread: died with 28 posts
Beethoven thread: died with 20 posts
Kill Blue: wasn't dumped
Embers: wasn't dumped

nice prison will last longer than otr, screencap this post

>>279575476
Ack... yuri lost

>>279575720
Nichi? LOST
Nuerat? LOST
Otr? WONNING!

TUNNEL

Wan Piss drinker is a faggot and a retard.

>>279575621
Lmao, are you still seething, salesfag?
Go cry on Twitter one more time, pussy.

>>279576314
>hasn't posted that in a month
I guess you've REALLY run out of garbage to post.

>>279576314
>Bringing back the OG literal who boogeyman
Already bored of the other 3 random losers you bring up?

>>279575712
Ichi the winner.

>>279576384
>winner
>that drop
>those future sales predictions

>>279575476
I'm literally every single poster in this thread

>schizo mental health keeps getting worse
>KGB keeps WINNING
It appears some sort of relationship exists between these two facts

>>279576314
>Random faggot
>Completely unrelated to salesfagging
>150 views

>>279576484
Don't make him mad or he'll start trying to force his disneybachi again (lost to an actually fun meme about how shit SD is).

>>279575641
Shonen Champion's golden goose and Act Age's rising star artist that suddenly got struck by bad luck working as a power duo... lost to a simple SoL about going through puberty...

Our

>>279576314
>KGBkeks so mad that they will MURDER their enemies
lol
lmao

>>279576618
>jobbed to generic romance with sports backdrop
>jobbed to dragon SoL
>jobbed to history shota

>>279576643
>>jobbed to history shota
Now lets not get ahead of our selves
It could still reach 90k

>>279576661
... not this month, at the very least.

>>279576412
nedicbas...

>>279576661
So far it's murdering Ichi.

>>279576638
ESL....

>>279575994
>Also, Shueisha prints based on data: preorders, trends, and retailer demand.
This is a logical fallacy called Appeal to Authority.
Just because Shueisha is a big company does not mean they are infallible. In fact there are many proven instances where they acted against their best interest, including but not limited to the constant overprinting of One Piece (of shit) which will later get recycled as toilet paper.

>>279575712
>akanebanashilled falls off immediately after frontloading fails
every time

>>279577006
... just like ichi

Japanese about Kagurabachi's characters.
Do you agree with them?

>>279577050

>>279577050
>>279577068
Oh, another schizo episode.
Moving on.

>>279577032
Ichi is 18, akane is 36.

>>279577068
No? They all seem very consistent for me.

>constructive criticism
>bachikeks immediately melts down
oh joy, the anime threads are going to be wonderful.

>>279577551
esl....

Is Tunnel Effect a real thing or just something Sakamoto made up?

>>279577701
Theoretically, in that the possibility is not zero.

>>279577482
Hokazono has quite a bit of flaws as a mangaka but his writing self-consistency isn't one of them. The way he writes both character and story beats is surprisingly tight considering he's a newbie author.
Characters making plans and their opponents throwing all manner if wrenches in there is all quite reasonable. Plenty of mangaka tend to force some convoluted decision to move the plot here and there, especially newbies wh9 get axed and authors of long running series that write themselves in a corner once or twice in their serialisation.
Kgb though? Very self-consistent to the point I'm starting to trust his writing. So far every incongruity has been ironed out with the sole exception of Shiba being a fraud. I guess his biggest fraud moment has been recently resolved though (him failing to save Chihiro's father), so I've got hope we'll get a proper explanation, maybe when they explain his sorcery properly or when he gets an in depth backstory.

feel

>>279577739
Modern shonenfags needing villain plans to be aizen tier "every single thing that could go against me has been planned for" is gonna be the downfall of the medium, especially since that's not very interesting

>>279577701
Think of it this way, technically speaking a quantum particle could theoretically phase through another quantum particle but the probability of that happening are low.
Now imagine a sword and a guy's neck, that's a several ounces of mass interacting. That might be in the order of septillions (that's 24 zeroes) of quantum particles that have to phase through each other at the right moment.
In other words, you could consider it as likely as you winning a galactic lottery where you have to get a septillion numbers right.

>>279577739
>Kgb though? Very self-consistent to the point I'm starting to trust his writing.
Opposite for me. I trusted his writing early on but in this arc imo he dropped the ball VERY hard. I don't think he even understands what the basic storytelling rules and principles are. He operates characters and plot like a butcher. Sometimes he hits it, but more often misses.

>>279577833
Writing needs to be self consistent because fans are quick to notice discrepancies. That doesn't mean you need to have a villain have a superconvoluted hundred years plan. Just make everything reasonable and consistent with the characters motivations, intelligence and knowledge.
Aizen wasn't that self consistent anyway, keikaku doori is a meme for a reason, it's just kind of silly. There were too many variables in his master plan that he didn't have control over, making it all inconsistent with Aizen's proclaimed superior intellect and meticulous attitude.

>>279577888
Yeah I really like Samura because he feels very flawed and stuck in his ways
The whole arc has been showing how ignorant he is of what other people want over his wants for everyone around him
And his continued use of "death" as a tool since Iori's introduction
Especially since his plan having visible flaws makes the Hishaku trying to go and work behind his back more interesting

>>279577847
I can see where you're coming from, this last arc has been a bit too long and we are in sore need of a good conclusion. Luckily enough the build up seems to finished and this arc's plot threads are starting to come together.
If Hokazono manages to neatly pull this arc's climax off I will be very much impressed. After last week's chapter, I'm pretty hopeful he will manage to do just that.

>>279577920
In my eyes, Samura is a close parallel to Chihiro's own reckless behaviour. I believe he will have to pay for his foolishness and that might become a lesson for Chihiro to follow a different road.

solar beam

>>279577958
He's 100% being killed by the sword saint or Yura with Magatsumi

>>279577974
You can't solar beam, you need one turn to charge it.

ACKemi

>>279577978
Yeah, I think Chihiro will manage to come to terms with Samura but Hakuri will end up getting swindled somehow.
Because of that Samura will die, either killed by sword saint, to stop a malediction or by Yura, triggering another Chihiro mindbreak (female readers love those).

>>279578013
Chihiro will learn
>Yeah bro you can dedicate yourself to dying to save everyone else, but the world's gonna keep spinning and nothing is really gonna change that way, but now you won't be around when it hits the fan next time

>>279575021 (OP)
Those are the highest ranked.
Only OP is winning of those.
At least Kagurabachi still has the anime card to use, Sakamoto sadly wasted that card so it’s not going to blow anymore.

>>279578058
Technically speaking he should've learnt to rely on others multiple times but he failed to do that every time. He did that in the Sojo arc but in the end the Kamunabi agents died and he had to finish things himself. He did that in the auction arc too by relying on Hakuri but in the end he got mind broken by Yura and came out thinking he was the one lacking compared to Hakuri. Coming in the assassination arc, he thought he had to prove himself to match Hakuri's determination and ended up getting sashimi'd by Hiruhiko and then cut down by Samura. What he learnt from that? That he was too weak and naive about swordsmanship and had to master the purity style, so that he could see eye to eye with Samura.
Just like Samura, he still thinks he must shoulder everything himself. Granted, that is partly because he literally holds the world equivalent of a nuke making him think if not me, who else?

>>279577701
Think of quantum physics

>>279578131
>that is partly because he literally holds the world equivalent of a nuke making him think if not me, who else?
It's mostly because they are his dad's nukes.

>>279577934
I like long arcs like this one where there's a bunch of stuff slowly but surely coming to abig conclusion.
The climax just needs to be bombastic enough.

>>279575641
>66 is not relevant bros

>>279575641
it failed my eye test, therefore it's not a good manga and will never make it big

>>279575641
I hate all these shilled series.

If Ichi stagnates or declines despite its constant rankings, cps and covers, can I finally call it the most shilled series currently without the schizo sperging out?

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My company hired a personal housemaid for me

A GUY FROM MY CLASS?!

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I CAN'T LET THE ENTIRE SCHOOL KNOW ABOUT THIS

It's a secret between us

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I look up to my housekeeper

From now on, please protect my home, okay?

My housekeeper <3

>>279576178
>It is not due to underestimated demand you retarded faggot.
Not an argument. This is just emotional vomiting because your crusty ass can't refute facts. Instead of citing anything tangible, you resort to name-calling and vague 'e-everyone knows!!' energy. You're pathetic.
>It is to save Oda's retarded ass face.
You really think Eiichiro Oda, the single most successful mangaka of all time, needs corporate ego protection? The man who has been out-selling entire franchises for decades? You're delusional. Again, you don’t want consistency, you just want any excuse to hate OP.
>Get your retarded ass out of here.
Translation: 'I have no argument, I have no source and my feelings are hurt.'
>Yes, and most people in Japan think so too.
>[Citation Needed]
You can't just slap "m-most people in Japan!!" on your schizo theory like it's a magic wand. Unless you personally polled every reader, editor, retailer, and logistics manager in the country, this is fabricated trash. The actual only people saying this crap are fringe forum dwelling faggots like (You) who cope hard whenever their favorite series isn't at the top anymore. This isn't Japan's opinion, it's just your fever dream.
>No source lmao.
(You) first, cuck. You really seem to think publishers don't use preorder data, trend modeling, and retailer feedback to determine print numbers in 2025, lmao. That's how disconnected you are from reality. This is basic industry standard practice for literally all publishing, not just manga. Anyone who's worked even one hour in publishing, sales, or distribution would laugh in your face for saying otherwise. That's how full of shit you are.

>>279575641
Nuerat falseflagging as a Bachibro to create consolewars against Ichibros.
Don't fall for his lies

what's the chance ichi get cucked in tsugimanga?

>>279578620
shut the fuck up
>b-but I like both
deichi a shit and faggy manga

>>279576178
>If it was due to demand, why do they overprint One Piece way over demand that it does not get repritnted for years.
Nigga, this is the definition of planned long-tail sales. They print more upfront because it sells over time, they don't need a reprint because they already forecast the right volume to last through months of consistent, slower sales.

Meanwhile, DS needed reprints because they didn't expect the anime boom, not because they were being held back by Oda's invisible Illuminati. You keep confusing inventory management with conspiracy. It's like watching someone try to argue gravity isn't real because he dropped his phone once and it didn't bounce. You're just asshurt your favorite series series had one year under the sun and was quickly dethroned afterwards while OP outlived it.

>bachifags are getting uppity now to even shit post about One Piece.

Lmao, so much for Disneybachi and Declinebachi fags.

>>279578620
Shut the fuck up bcuck

>>279578791
One Piece has been a punching bag for good reasons long before KGB even existed.

>>279578557
not until kiyoshi is axed

Ultimate Exorcist Kiyoshi-kun Volume 4 Cover

>>279578608
You again? Bro, it's widely known OP is overprinted. It's a conscious choice on Shueisha's part.

>>279578689
>through months of consistent, slower sales.
More like years, if ever kek

Leave Ichi to me

>>279578993
>Already goes into group covers instead of individual covers
That was fast

>>279578993
Which successful mangaka's assistants went on and had a successful series of their own?

Leave WINNING to them

>>279578557
Maybe once they shill it for 2+ years so it reaches akanebanashilled levels.

>>279579318
Akane is barely shilled in comparison anymore.
And it's never had a
>first place
>first place
>cover
>first place
streak, which nothing except the biggest series ever have had.

>>279578620
It's so weird bachifags fight with literally every other fandom but are scared of ichirats

>>279578689
NTA but Kimetsu had a first print of 3.95 mil, not 3 mil or 3.5, 3.95 when the record for OP's first print was 4 mil and you dont find that suspicious at all? Just shy of the record number by a couple hundred thousand.

>>279579502
>blah blah blah mindbroken schizo shit

>>279579521
No, the real sad part is that they announced a reprint even before it came out.
So as a matter of fact it was way higher considering it sold 5 million in the month.

>>279579340
Why are you replying with schizobabble to random posts?

>>279579583
Because he is projecting

>>279579583
>>279579605
Why do you think saying "schizobabble" at posts means anything the posts say is wrong?
You're retarded and think name-calling is an automatic "i win" button.

>>279579082
That Doron influence

>>279579678
What makes it wrong is that it's schizobabble. I won, because I'm not a schizo like you.

>>279579521
NAOTA, but this tinfoil shit about Oda demanding Kimetsu no Yaiba prints to not reach OP, is stupid in so many levels.

>>279579721
Oda didn't demand it, but sueisha forced it so as not to touch op.

Miltank

>>279579678
This isn't a yuri thread, Sean. Why are you here?

Summon successful

lol

Cow

>>279579325
It's been shilled like crazy for 2 years, anon.

Bull up

>>279579721
Never said it was Oda. Just that Shueisha has been caught multiple times being slimy snakes.

>>279579719
>>279579731
>>279579734
>>279579748
>>279579757
Schizobabble. You're schizo, you lose.

>>279579811
>no u
lol

>>279579777
>>279579768
Failed troll. Lolcow.

>>279579820
>if i name call it means i win
>if u name call it means u lose
Weird, why do all double standards favor you?

The Bachi-banashi B block WILL return tonight

>>279579881
It *should* unless jump decides that fucking enten vs tobimune belongs to the bottom.

Melori

Oh it's still oda the cause of the infamous 3.95 mil first print.
He never told it openly to shueisha but shueisha was afraid if he gonna throw some tantrums if his inflated ego get tarnished.

>>279579896
Shouldn't this issue be ranking chapter 76?

>>279580029
It's been havig some meh ranknigs despite the chapters it covered, so who knows.
If it was me I'd just place it first for a fucking change.

>>279576084
Why are all the people spazzing about this JJK fans? “Tunnel effect” is par for the course with SD, which is filled with weird bullshit. Meanwhile, JJK is a constant stream of asspulls.

>>279579715
This would've lived in current jump.

>>279580145
>“Tunnel effect” is par for the course with SD
>set up cliffhanger
>resolve it in the worst, most retarded concept you can find

>>279580145
>par for the course with SD
If this was remotely true, SD would have the meme reputation of Baki instead of being another 'hype moments and aura' manga

>>279580036
imo kgb's position is basically
>anime soon
so jump is instead shilling newer or with anime (or culturally sponsored) series until they start shilling it nonstop when the official announcement drops

>>279580234
Hard to believe Kill Blue and Nue might be in that position soon. I don't even remember if KB ever ranked high to begin with

>>279580189

>>279580145
NTA, I've never read SD, but I find the entire ass pull to be a fucking stupid misunderstanding of scientific principles. I saw another page from SD where some dumb bitch said that the odds of life existing on Earth were like 1:6,000,000,000 or some stupid shit which is flat out wrong, and then constructed a gun by shuffling the parts into a bag.

>>279579021
No shit, that's literally the point. Long-tail sales = years of consistent sales, not a boom-bust spike. That's how OP stays relevant, it’s not just a flash hit, it's a constant seller with legs. Meanwhile DS dropped its final volume, peaked for one year, and dipped harder than the stocks in a 2008 crash. You can't mock 'years of sales' when that's the entire reason OP gets 3M+ first prints: it sells across time. You're proving the point while trying to dunk, lmao.
>Kimetsu had a first print of 3.95 mil, not 3 mil or 3.5, 3.95 when the record for OP's first print was 4 mil and you dont find that suspicious at all?
>>279579521
No. It looks like a publisher who finally realized, after the explosive 2020, that demand was at nuclear levels but still wanted to protect logistics from a catastrophic overprint. 3.95 million is an insanely high first print, that's literally the second highest first print in Japanese publishing history which was only possible because of the explosive post-anime boom and because the series was ending and the movie came out shortly after. You don't randomly jack it to 4.5M and hope people buy them. If it was 3.95M, it's because
>that's what retailers pre-ordered
>that's what Shueisha believed could move quickly
>that's what was realistically safe to print based on their actual logistics forecast
If they wanted DS to break the 4M print record that bad, they could've fudged it by a margin like every PR team does, but they didn't. Because that record still belongs to OP and it's earned from Oda's hard work alone. What you're calling "suspicious" is just normal business logic: publishers don’t break records arbitrarily. They hover just under them unless they're absolutely sure they’ll shatter demand. DS hitting 3.95M is already an insane show of faith from Shueisha, especially considering DS was ending and wouldn't have long-tail sales.

>>279579139
Several. Like a lot.

Kenshin author spawned Oda, and Shaman King Mangaka. Fujimoto spawned. Fire Force spawned Kei Urana (Gachiakuta). I forget, but there are many more examples.

>>279580409
also nta and I dropped it around the time someone made a bullet go faster by hitting it with the gun he fired it from

>>279580464
>DS hitting 3.95M is already an insane show of faith from Shueisha, especially considering DS was ending and wouldn't have long-tail sales.
And it sold 5 million in the month, because its volumes were already at that level.
It was straight up pettiness.

>>279579539
>No, the real sad part is that they announced a reprint even before it came out.
Yeah, and that's a good thing. If a reprint is announced before release, that means pre-orders outstripped the first print. This doesn't mean Shueisha sabotaged DS. It means the anime boom completely warped demand forecasting beyond any historical precedent. So they pre-emptively adjusted. That's smart publishing, not proof of oppression. Also, if you sell 5M and your first print was 3.95M, then the reprint covered it which is fine, but if you needed a reprint before launch, it proves the forecast was wrong. One Piece doesn't need that because its projections are based on two decades of consistent sales trends.

All you're doing is screaming
>'Shueisha secretly sabotaged the best-selling manga of 2020 because OP's feelings would get hurt!'
Which is like saying the NBA rigged the playoffs so Michael Jordan wouldn't get jealous of a guy who dropped 81 points once and retired the next day. It's just a tinfoil hat cope.

even if akane really is shilled, I find it excusable because tradition value and stuffs
ichi being shilled just make it a fraud, want to get big but is unable to

>>279580464
Explain why they announced a reprint immediately before the volumes even hit the shelves then. They knew the first print numbers werent enough, but decided to under print anyway, and at 3.95m at that.

>>279580610
>It's just a tinfoil hat cope
Or something even a retard can see
>no, we randomly stopped right before it just because
No one would complain if it was 3.5 and they were blindsided.

>>279578665
I like both :)

>>279580689
Nathie, go kill yourself without pedoship

>>279576465
>kgb loses so badly this thread is being invaded by ACK
lol

>>279580610
They werent blindsided for a whole ass year, stop the cope. And you still ignore KnY's treatement by Shueisha's when it beat OP's record in 2019 and straight up lied and gave OP its flowers prematurely. Still no explanation or apology from them for that btw.

>>279580699
What the fuck is a nathie

>>279580668
Ichi being shilled makes sense, they poached Nishi from Magazine and it paid off.
Now, something that doesn't deserve shilling is Kiyoshi since it likes crap.>>279580679

>>279580881
>and it paid off.
Lmao. Backlog dead, vol 2 never got a reprint, and no circulation update for vol 3.

>>279580234
Historically, KGB had weird rankings.
Specially when Astro started publication.

>>279579867
lol

>>279580881
>they poached Nishi
death to all vetshit manga

>>279581042
veterancucks got mad because two rookies dominate the biggest magazine

>>279580668
ichi sells twice as much as akane, no?

>Akanebanashi is still somehow the poster child of shilling on /wsj/ and not Kiyoshi

Crepal won

>>279581296
Yet you don't see "Kiyoshilled" being posted as much as "Akanebanashilled". I could understand the latter being common a year or two ago, but as >>279579325 said, other series are actually more shilled than Akanebanashi these days.

>>279581249
Kiyoshi is currently the most shilled manga simply because it should be fucking axed months ago yet it's going, getting cps and shilled to the upper toc. Akanebanashilled just has been shilled for way too long. I remember when it was coined when it was constantly higher in toc than JJK and MHA lmao.

>>279581335
That's because you're a newfaggot. It's kiyoshill and kiyoshit.

>>279581339
That's not the point. The point is that "Akanebanashilled" still keeps being posted here even when it has been overtaken by other series in terms of shilling, especially by Kiyoshi. Yet, you barely see anyone posting "Kiyoshilled", at least not to the same extent. It's as if "Akanebanashilled" posting has less to do with anger at shilling in general and more to do with anger at Akanebanashi specifically. Otherwise, you'd also see other series like Kiyoshi and Roboco being attacked for being shilled beyond their sales.

>>279581316
ENTER

>>279581389
>less than 150 hits for "Kiyoshill" versus over 500 for "Akanebanashilled"
That just further proves my point.

>>279580679
>Explain why they announced a reprint immediately before the volumes even hit the shelves then.
Because, genius, preorders blew past initial projections. That's literally what pre-release reprints are: a response to last-minute demand surges that come after the initial print order was locked in. You can't just press a "print more" button the day before release, print runs are planned months in advance. By the time they realized preorders were getting insane (especially near the final volume hype), it was too late to adjust the first print, so they scheduled a reprint early. That's good publishing management, not some shadowy Oda-defense maneuver. If Shueisha was trying to "suppress" DS, why would they greenlight a reprint at all? Why acknowledge the demand? This is a textbook success response.
>>279580605
>And it sold 5 million in the month, because its volumes were already at that level.
What a dumb take. DS was ending and publishers know series with no future volumes don't get long-tail boosts. Why would they risk 5M+ upfront and end up with millions in unsold stock after the hype dies? They printed what they believed would sell safely, and reacted quickly with a reprint. That's good business practice.
>>279580680
>Or something even a retard can see
Then maybe you should try seeing it, because right now you're running on Alex Jones-tier conspiracy theory.
'Randomly stopped right before it' = logistical cap, warehouse space, retailer limitations, forecast buffers.
Not 'p-petty sabotage!!!'
You keep forgetting that print records are tied to hard inventory numbers. If Shueisha wanted to fudge numbers, they could've lied and said 4.05M and nobody would've known, but they didn't. You know why? Because they weren't playing games. They were running a business.

>>279581427
Exactly. It was never just about it being "shilled". It's always been about him hating it.

Akanehater...won...

>>279581423
>why would they greenlight a reprint at all
Because reprint won't hurt oda muh 4m first print, retard?
Him and you already cope hahaha its just 3.95m+reprints

>>279580803
>They werent blindsided for a whole ass year
Nigga, DS exploded in mid-to-late 2019. The anime aired in 2019, the movie (Mugen Train) landed early 2020 and the 3.95M print was in 2021. That's barely 12-14 months of hype. You don’t change decades of print policy overnight because of one freak spike. Also, if the volume still sold 5M in that month with a reprint announced, then the system worked. It met the demand and nothing was lost. You think they should've gambled 6M upfront and hoped it worked out? That's insanity from a logistics standpoint.
>And you still ignore KnY's treatement by Shueisha's when it beat OP's record in 2019 and straight up lied and gave OP its flowers prematurely.
Oh, this tired-ass point again. In 2019, OP did outsell DS for most of the year. DS,s anime didn’t spike sales until late in Q3, with the real explosion coming in the final quarter. Oricon data showed OP leading for most of the year, and Jump's statements were made before DS surged past OP. No lies, just early statements based on partial-year sales, not full-year recaps. And in 2020, guess what? DS was crowned top seller, officially. So much for that 'favoritism.'

Where’s your apology to Shueisha?
>Still no explanation or apology from them for that btw.
You want a corporate apology because your favorite didn't get its press release on time? Bro, that's like crying because your mom didn't hang your drawing on the fridge fast enough. Also, the Oricon rankings already made it official. The reprints and print counts reflected the success, the medal from the Japanese government was given to the author and DS dominated every chart for months in 2020. How much more validation do you want? An Oda apology video? A OP funeral procession?

You DS fags are so deep in your own inferiority complex that you treat 'historic, second-highest print in manga history' like an insult. That's the manga equivalent of going to the Super Bowl and crying that you didn't win by enough.

>>279581042
Kgb weird ranking were because of Nakano's interference. As soon as Saito came in he gave kgb high rankings and a hell of a lot of color pages.
Afterwards Hokazono was clearly struggling to keep up and kgb ended back in the middle of the toc, as most series do when they aren't shilled.

>>279581410
How does that prove your point? You know Akane years older than Kiyoshi right?

>pissfag
>in 2025
lol, lmao even

>>279581681
Even adjusting it to be just posts from 2025, "Kiyoshill" was used only 146 times, while "Akanebanashilled was used" 363 times. It shows that /wsj/ thinks that Akanebanashi is the poster child of shilling and not Kiyoshi, even when that's arguably not the case anymore. You would think that from the amount of shilling Kiyoshi gets compared to other shilled series like Akanebanashi, Ichi, Roboco, and so on, you'd think "Kiyoshill" would be more dominant.

>>279581423
>Alex Jones tier conspiracy
Is it really a conspiracy if Shueisha has been caught using shady practices to prop up OP through lying, twice even. Like that you still ignore Shueisha lying that OP outsold KnY in 2019, literal proof that the company does not have KnY's best interest in mind, especially when it comes to upsurping OP, but keep telling yourself that Shueisha is a very smart and honest business that definitely would not stoop to petty lows. They lost the public's trust.

>>279581671
Yes, it went up after a bit than dropped to mid tier.

>>279581749
I fear you're retarded, adjusting to 2025 wouldn't change the fact that Akane has had years to get slandered as a shilled manga compared to Kiyoshi

>>279581810
Could you give a rundown? I don't remember this one.

>>279581274
nedicbas...

>>279581651
>no lies
Fucking kek! They announced that shit a couple days before Oricon did when they had the full year's data. You're really going to sit here and tell me they prematurely crowned OP before the year count in was even up? There was a 2 mil difference between them. Imagine announcing a team won because they were ahead halfway through the match. Thats how retarded you sound.
>you want a corporate apology because your favorite didn't get its press release on time?
Shueisha should apologize for posting false numbers against hard data and claiming something that wasnt true.
>You DS fags are so deep in your own inferiority complex
>YOU WON SO MUCH STUFF ALREADY STOP BULLYING SHUEISHA!
Struck a nerve there didnt I bitch boy?

>>279578640
0, literally what other manga could win it?

>>279580464
>when that's the entire reason OP gets 3M+ first prints: it sells across time
but it doesn't?
Youj can literally see oricon sales that it does not. movie red returned some old volumes stock and they weren't anywhere near 2.5 million let alone 3.2 million and recent volumes have been selling less and less

It's literally overprinted. Everyone in Japan knows this. And everyone knows DS was underprinted intentionally

One Piss has alwayas had high prints, for example it never deserved 4 million print yet it got it. It literally never sold near 4m. while DS did.

now JJK outsells one piss volumes yet got 1.8m print in comparison to 3.2 million print for OP. and JJK has more volumes in shoseki right now than wan piss. and will continue to sell with anime releases unlike one piss

>>279580464
>If they wanted DS to break the 4M print record that bad, they could've fudged it by a margin like every PR team does
That's why they did the 3.95 million, just below one piss level
what a funny interesting coincidence

>>279581732
>unironic Demon Slayer fag
>in 2025
One Piece is the Michael Jordan of manga.
>three Guinness Records
>most-published author in human history
>built and carried an entire genre
>has worldwide influence 28 years in
>soon the best-selling comic in human history
Meanwhile Demon Slayer is Jeremy Lin. One viral season, one trendy explosion and no legacy. Every single manga on Jump, including your beloved Demon Slayer, only exists because One Piece saved that magazine from dying.

>>279581920
They used stealth marketing (which is now illegal) to prop up one piece. They only apologized once they were caught

>>279581651
>That barely 12 - 14 months of hype
Guess how many months are in a year genius. KnY was also showing no signs of slowing down anytime soon.

>>279582257
It's not the best seller at all, its the most printed
and even so it still has 4.5 million per volume
>>has worldwide influence 28 years in
what influence?

>>279581377
It's just a nickname for the manga it deserved. You are thinking way too deep into this. Like blacked lover or unsold unbought. Both kiyoshi and roboco are also attacked but with roboco people accepted it's shilled because it promotes other manga constantly.
>>279581410
One manga has 161 chapters and another 47, hmmm. One manga had years establishing its shilled image and another just rises to the challenge. Also you might want to add "kiyoshit" to the count as it's used way more often.

This one piss nigger is delusional
I don't even like DS but holy shit he's retarded
must be some pajeet fan or something

>>279582264
holy kek
but how is it illegal?
tax evasion?

>>279582327
Stealth marketing is a scummy marketing method. It was made illegal in japan few years ago
look it up

>>279582264
Why would they do this to such a popular manga? hmmmmmmmmmmmm *thinking emoji*

>>279582305
The faggot thinks Shueisha is some shareholder beholden company when its private and filled with nepotism (as we have seen such many cases from).

>>279582257
>>three Guinness Records
You do realize these are paid for and created right? Guinness doesn't come to shueisha and says "psss..hey wanna be in the guiness record?"

it's around $1000 to create your own record. I can make a record about the biggest shit on a manga, shitting on one piece then creating a record

>>279582257
One piss? Lost and continuing to lose
Time to pack it up grandpa. Even the japs are tired of your senile ass.

Read her manga.

I don’t have a stake in this discussion but are we actually arguing OP isn’t popular? Shit’s like one of THE most mainstream manga out there.

>>279582800
Nobody arguing otherwise. It's about shueisha and how it's overprinted to hell

Kimetsu is popular but if shueisha printed 20 million copies of each volume it we'd be saying the same too

>>279582812
Yeah, only this pajeet one piece subhuman thinks guiness record is some kind of PROVEN TRUSTED validation.

You can literally get your own record on there. For shueisha they probably paid 10k-50k though not 1k.

"While any person can theoretically send in a record to be verified for free, the approval process is slow. Would-be record breakers that paid fees ranging from US$12,000 to US$500,000 would be given advisors, adjudicators, help in finding good records to break as well as suggestions for how to do it, prompt service, and so on. In particular, corporations and celebrities seeking a publicity stunt to launch a new product or draw attention to themselves began to hire Guinness World Records, paying them for finding a record to break or to create a new category just for them"

>>279582800
Kimetsufags are coping with how fast they lost relevance while OP keeps trucking on like the titan it is

>>279582800
There was a thread yesterday about 5ch comments on One Piece. Seems the discussion migrated here.

It's funny to me this site takes 5ch seriously.

Hope oda dies asap

I think it's foolish for Ichi and Bachi to fight, they're both newer popular manga that SJ direly needs. Nips often mention them together when they talk about reasons why they read the magazine (by the way Shinobigoto is also often mentioned, but Himaten isn't, so I guess Himaten fans aren't likely to be Ichibachi fans).

There's also no argument that Bachi is massively more popular. (And will likely remain thar way unless Ichi introduces way more guys). I cannot even count how many new Bachi fanarts are drawn every day while for Ichi I'm happy about even one. (I think cheering for a smaller work makes you appreciate every single fanwork out there while for Bachi I quickly get fatigued by the overwhelming amount of fujo works).

I'm grateful that Bachi is a strong work that SJ can rely on and that Ichi is showing promise as well. For the sake of the future of shonen jump, I hope other strong works will appear soon. I thought the most recent oneshot had promise.

>>279581377
It's just more people shit on akanebanashilled than on kiyoshill.

>>279583071
A shot titan would be more apt since there's no bigger manga in the industry, and a shot titan is still going to fuck everyone else up

>>279583132
They were funny, sure. But people here seem to take it as dogma and the benchmark of Japanese public opinion. Especially with the "muh plagiarism."

I think pretty much anyone ever brings that up, it's a telltale sign you're dealing with a bonafide retard. Regardless of where they are from.

>>279583250
There's no other million seller left standing, OP remains the titan over everyone else

>>279583199

>>279583145
>ichi
>>>>>Popular
lelmao

>>279583272
>left standing
because they had the decency to end and enjoy their life instead of being a greedy jew slave stretching for no reason?

>>279583351
I'm glad Jump has found something like this again. Most stronger works have ended, so Bachi Ichi is necessary for the magazine to stay strong. Praying for them to not succeed is like a death sentence to the magazine, and it makes me wonder what kind of Shonen Jump fans would say this.

>>279583378
Because it doesn't put out as many volumes yet is the one that sells the most whenever it goes on sale
It's like a giant that doesn't move a lot but when it does, everything within the radius gets flattened
>>279583408
>decency to end and enjoy their life
Yes a life of irrelevace lmao
Guess what faggot, life is a marathon and not a sprint
The industry does not need you if you're a bitch made quitter after one sprint

>>279581763
>Is it really a conspiracy if Shueisha has been caught using shady practices to prop up OP
You mean that 'shady practice' where they had to clarify an editor-led fan art campaign (Bustercall) was internal and not organic? That's not 'stealth propaganda,' that's a PR misstep and they publicly apologized. You know what that is? Responsible corporate behavior. They didn't suppress anyone, they didn’t fake rankings, it was a OP-themed art campaign made by the OP editorial department and they clarified it. Case closed. That's not industry-rigging, it's a mislabel on a hype event. Stop acting like this was Watergate with straw hats.
>Shueisha lying that OP outsold KnY in 2019
I already explained it to you. They made a statement before the full-year data was in. This is like ESPN calling MVP mid-season and the actual MVP turning out different, that's not lying, it's timing. And DS did get crowned 2020's bestseller, no one denied it. So what the fuck are you whining about 5 years later? Because your serotonin hit came after the press release?

I think it would be fun if Matsui's Elusive Samurai finished and he made another supernatural work

Jump needs more battle shonen works

>>279582257
>>built and carried an entire genre
Why do you say it? Shonen was built by Kurumada.

>>279583483
physically cringed at this post

>>279583551
JJK is the only one and that ended because Gege was a bitch, everything else sells like shit

>>279582264
Oh, I remember it now.
I wonder if they did other shady stuff

>>279583585
>ape is retarded and has no rebuttal
Fitting you posted yourself

>>279583145
I love both, the consolewar is fake as usual, let's just stop caring about schizos.

GOD, Chihiro is so lucky to have a fiancée like Akane!

>>279583771
Hag

>bachifags fought with jjkfags, borutofags, now opfags
>ichi is the one fanbase they are afraid to attack
I really do not get it

>>279582204
Cool and yet
>OP has never once needed panic reprints
>even in weaker years, it consistently sells 1.5M-2M per volume over time
>older volumes still chart during anime events and movie tie-ins (Red, Netflix, Gear 5)
>OP still sells in bundles, collector's editions and digital, long-tail style
You can't have 'long tail' when there's no tail left. Meanwhile, DS is out of print, it's a closed series. Its volumes don't move anymore because there's nothing left to hook readers into picking up vol 1. And funny how you're whining about shilling, but you wanna know what OP doesn't need?
- Ufotable-level anime budget to keep it relevant
- Record-breaking movie gimmicks from a pandemic
- Sony Music-level Aniplex shill support
>now JJK outsells one piss volumes yet got 1.8m print in comparison to 3.2 million print for OP
Nope. JJK spikes, OP sustains. JJK gets anime boosts and fades fast (see 2024's drop after Gojo arc ended). OP doesn’t need anime to maintain relevance. It's still trending with just the manga. That’s the difference between a trend fire and an eternal flame. Also, you really think publishers don't factor in return sales, preorders, and regional inventory velocity to set print caps? They literally base print runs on this. JJK has less predictable long-tail than OP, hence the tighter first prints.
>>279582223
You keep repeating this like it proves anything when all it proves is
>DS was close to breaking the record (it didn't)
>Shueisha printed what they felt was safe based on risk
>OP's 4M print was during a global sales peak in a non-pandemic market, not a final volume rush in a bubble
They didn’t suppress DS, they just didn't want to overprint a final volume of a series that wouldn't keep generating new readers after the ending. You don't flood the shelves if there's no incoming fanbase to push older volumes.

>>279583892
What do you mean? I've seen plenty of western fujos who also like kgb diss Ichi

>>279583930
There's no way this one piss nigger is talking about shilling and marketing unironically

>>279583770
Nice, though these threads really seem to be nothing but consolewars recently. It could be so fun to just discuss the works. I want to hear people's thoughts on shinobi or any other work too and share fanart

>>279583930
Are you honestly arguing that they managed to print 3.95 million, but then thought that the extra 50k would have been too much for the initial print?

>>279583210
>Draw moneyshot action panel
>Covers the whole scene with Uruha's body, making it a non-moment

Hokazono's drawers seems to have no sauce.

>>279583941
Well you don't see it here, kgbfags are incredibly afraid to piss off ichifags for some reason despite getting into the mud with jjkfags and opfags recently

FIGHT!

>>279583488
>That's not 'stealth propaganda,' that's a PR misstep and they publicly apologized.
It is stealth propaganda, gachas do it all the time.

>>279584098
But kgbfags do actually fight with every fanbase except for Ichi and I cannot fathom why. I've seen them fight with jjkfags of all fanbases when that was ending and kgbfags tried to shill there but failed.

>>279583930
I think this whole argument is pointless. It feels like both of you are using popularity to gauge which the better series is overall.

I can say this, to me, OP has dropped off massively, and I stopped reading it ages ago. Maybe I'll pick it up again once it wraps up, but I can already tell that the ending will not live up to 20 years of anticipation. AoT and GoT ran into similar issue, where the speculation was allowed to run so rampant it effectively superceded the series. The same will happen with One Piece, and the cracks already started to show at around Dressrosa. Want and Gear 5 was when it really jumped the shark, and that's where I dropped it.

As for Kimetsu, it had the sense to not overstay it's welcome, and give its story a satisfying ending before people could speculate up a black Hole of expectations.

Overall, OP's success and impact are undeniable. The manga itself is basically synomous with the concept of manga, and is a cultural cornerstone. Bigger than Dragonball. A like Dragonball, it could have the most unsatisfying ending, and it'll still be remembered and beloved.

As for Kimetsu, it'll continue to be very popular, but more in a Fate Stay Night sort of way, where the story will lately be regarded as this great story, even though it will never be as BIG as OP as a whole. It will still be considered one of those highly influential and successful manga for years to come. Like Kenshin, for example.

When it's all said and done however, Kimetsu will likely walk away having the better remembered story, simply cause there is no way OP will ever be able to deliver on like 20 years of stringing people along. The ending will be a huge disappointment, watch. Despite that though, it'll still be the no.1, probably forever.

>>279583145
a SoL manga on hiatus is more popular bro give up

>>279584162
>Bigger than Dragonball
One piece is bigger than dragon ball, are you serious? lmao

>>279584162
>When it's all said and done however, Kimetsu will likely walk away having the better remembered story
Kimetsu is already forgotten, try again

>>279584181
Yes. It objectively is captain retard.

>>279584199
And you're just as dumb as he is.

>>279584080
maybe you got the impression from >I like both cuck?
we LOVE to shit on deichi66 in here, we just don't feel like bringing in our manga

>>279584191
Well yeah it wasn't me. Kgbfags love to shill their shit everywhere, especially this reaction image they've been pushing under every viral post trying to turn it into a meme.

>>279582264
which current jump deserves an illegal stealth campaign?

>>279584236
>Yes. It objectively is captain retard.
objectively where? Only in manga print yes

i fucking hate poaching mangaka so much
Especially mean that WSJ just given up on new blood, and focus on stealing talent from anyone else, instead of nurture their talent
That's why i prefer KGB/Nue/Newbie mangaka over Ichi

>>279583941
Why would that happen?

>>279584303
Do you have any quantifiable metric to judge this by? Or is it your imagination?

By pretty much every measurable metric, OP is bigger than Dragonball.

>>279584365
Bandai namco sales report
Toei sales report
Games sales
Actual ancedotal popularity on the streets

etc

>>279584315
don't worry, veteran shitters could never make actual hit

>>279584317
Ichi is considered misogynist by a lot of women on twitter

>>279584389
tell that to current EiC

I still remember when this retarded board shit on KGB for being generic and edgy, only for it to be a huge success. Just goes to show how stupid the majority of you really are.

>>279584395
The only other series I could see winning over Ichi is Bug Ego though, and that's by ONE

>>279584395
Unfortunately nothing will beat it
The iruma spin off almost won last year if it weren't for KGB's sudden explosive success, you need that happening a second time to beat out the iruma cult

>>279584383
>Games
>Games
>Games
>Anecdotal evidence
You really are a fucking imbecile, aren't you. Don't speak to me if your IQ is below 120.

>>279584399
Source? I thought Desscaras was everyone's darling?

>>279584457
Toei has nothing to do with games you faggot
what do you want me to bring up? manga sales? Dragon ball has more sales per volume there too

>>279584449
what about other magazine?

>>279584399
What?? Why?

>>279584479
You're bringing up videogames as a fucking argument. Lmao. I could just as easily say "hurr OP has the more successful TCG."

We're talking about MANGA here you fucking moron. The fact that you unironically thought it was intelligent to cite anecdotal evidence anything credible just shows how little understanding you have of the words "MEASURABLE METRIC." Why are you even talking to me you double digit subhuman?

>>279584536
the man is much more competent than witches

>>279584545
Damn I must have pressed a big nerve there lad
be calm
be goku
don't be screaming indian like luffy

>>279584471
>>279584536
Here you go

>>279584569
Shut the fuck up you stupid fucking nigger. Don't @ me again.

>>279584584
Why are women like this.....

>>279582257
>One Piece is the Michael Jordan of manga
Then current OP is the equivalent of Micheal Jordan's golf phase

>>279584545
>We're talking about MANGA here you fucking moron.
Then let's compare how awful the art and the writing of One Piece are, especially when compared to Dragon Ball.

>>279584667
Learn how to spell.

>>279582349
It's similar to how in sponsored videos now they have to disclose that they were paid to advertise a product. That law is in place because otherwise plenty of people would paid to endorse a brand but would publicy say they're doing that because the brand is really that good.

>>279583956
Cope more, cuck. DS needed elite-tier anime treatment from Ufotable to blow up, industry-wide collabs, Sony Music shilling (Aniplex is owned by Sony Music and Ufotable are close collaborators with Aniplex, they usually only everdo projects that's within Aniplex's interest), !nd it dropped its record movie when no international competition existed to get noticed.

And what did OP need? The manga, a shitty Toei anime that people constantly complained about and it still trended anyway. I'm not coping (you are though), I'm just spitting undeniable fact: Demon Slayer is an anime-driven series, while One Piece is a creator-driven manga-driven series. Always has been. Oda's success is his and his alone. Cry some more, bitch.
>>279584007
Yes, because that's exactly how risk-adjusted forecasting works. You don’t just fucking say 'eh, what’s another 50k?' and push a button unless
>you're 110% sure you'll move all those units
>you're not dealing with a final volume of a closed series
>you don't mind setting a new historical benchmark that'll follow you forever
It's logistics, printer capacity, shelf space and orders from retailers, not your feelings. They hit 3.95M because that was the realistic, data-informed limit. You think they held back the extra 50k for Oda's pride? Nigga, Shueisha is a profit engine, not Oda's personal fanclub. If they thought 4.1M would sell, they’d print 4.1M.

How do kimetsufags not get tired of this opfag dickslapping them in the face all day

>>279584675
Was that what the original point was about...?
Let's review.... Hmmm.......>>279584365
>OP is bigger than Dragonball.
Sure doesn't seem to be the case.
Is Dragonball better than OP?
Imo, yes it is.
Do I like Dragonball more?
Yes, because I grew up with it.
Am I delusional enough lmao deny the very blatant fact that OP is the most successful manga/comic book of all time? Reaching Batman and Superman levels of sales in a fraction of the time?
No, that would be extremely stupid.

How about you bring those goalposts back, huh?

We're not talking about which manga is BETTER. We're talking about which manga is BIGGER. Learn to separate your opinions and irate hatred for something from objective FACT.

The most important panel

>>279584421
It is actually a breath of fresh air.
Compared to the moralistic goku-clones

>>279584817
which is funny, as Goku is the least moralistic WSJ MC

>>279584784
>We're not talking about which manga is BETTER.
At least we agree the OP is an awful manga
>we're talking about which manga is BIGGER.
It's Dragon Ball. It sold more per volume and it's extremely influential to this day. OP wouldn't even exist without Dragon Ball

>>279584682
Sorry, did I hit a nerve? OP is its sunset years just like Michael Jordan's relevancy.

>>279584584
>Twitter screenshot of social media randos about some western fandom low iq discussions
You are probably a l*lcow.farm user

>>279584867
Is there already any art of Akane being ravaged by old men?

>>279584849
What series does Jeremy even like? Mha?

>>279584853
Then Demon Slayer is Jeremy Lin.
>One viral season, one trendy explosion and no legacy. Every single manga on Jump, including your beloved Demon Slayer, only exists because One Piece saved that magazine from dying.
Likewise, every single NBA player owes their career to Michael Jordan paving the way for them.

I'm getting that japanese readers are not optimistic about 3 spokons.

>>279584817
Id rather have another wakuwaku psycho than edgy action figure

>>279584853
You'd have a point if the manga industry had a Lebron equivalent. Too bad you can't use JJK or KnY because they fizzled out fast. OP remains the GOAT.

>>279584928
Kimetsu is Shohei Ohtani.

>>279584881
I didn't say western fujos have high iq

>>279584894
Only Deku and possibly Bakugo.
Vigilantes made his seethe like no tomorrow.

>>279584969
If we talking about Jump's GOATs then I prefer Slam Dunk.

>>279584449
Hiro the fudanshi king should have won, his art is phenomenal

>>279583892
We just read both and like both.

>>279584008
>but that's what they did, funnily enough, they printed like 6 million volumes of it knowing full well they would be sold.
Yeah, with a reprint. You do realize that means they
>tested the waters
>demands exceeded initial forecast
>they responded with additional copies
That"s literally the opposite of sabotage, and printing a smaller first run before a massive reprint is how every publisher avoids overprinting risk, excess warehousing and retail returns.

DS got the love, got the reprint, and got crowned top seller in 2020. So why are you still crying?
>Yeah, a lower first print than the previous volume.
No, that's false. DS vol 22 had a first print of 3.7M and vol 23 (the final one) got bumped to 3.95M. Your own argument falls apart mid-post, ou're citing numbers you don't even know, just because they sound angry enough to work in your fantasy rant.
>Five years and you are STILL coping about how jmuch more successful kimetsu was and how sueisha runs things
Nobody's coping that DS had an explosive run in 2020, everyone acknowledges that.

What I'm saying, and that's a fact, is
>that explosion was short-term
>it was powered by anime + timing + shill pipeline
>and it didn't translate into a sustained franchise legacy
Meanwhile, OP is
>still ongoing
>still trending
>gets two concurrently running anime + live-action
>still selling back volumes
>still topping charts
>still guinness record uolder
If anyone's coping, it's (You), clinging to a pandemic-fueled 12-month sprint and your dumbass pretending it invalidates a 28-year marathon. Cope, you cuck.

>>279581377
It's definitely shilled more than Kiyoshi here.

>>279585170
Clearly not the case when Ichi threads need to be necrobumped

>>279584962
>than edgy action figure
Despite the memes, Chihiro isn't that edgy, the fresh hatred scheme is misinterpreted.

The trend i noticed is that almost every series from the current slate is getting mentioned and hated.
Except for kagurabachi.
Conclusion - bachifaggots are those who create the shitfest.
Its simple, really.

>>279585027
Cry moar, cuck.
>"One Piece Saved Shonen Jump." - Kazuhiko Torishima
>According to Torishima's recent interview, after Dragon Ball ended, Weekly Shonen Jump suffered from poor sales and a lack of new talent. Toriyama's style and work were so revolutionary that it took some time for a new generation of artists to come out, who had learned the lessons of the master. That's when Eiichiro Oda and One Piece came along, in 1997, before Kishimoto made his debut in 1999 with Naruto, and Tite Kubo with Bleach in 2001.

>Many fans believe that after Dragon Ball ended its serialization, Naruto became Shōnen Jump's saving grace, but according to Torishima, this is far from the truth. In a recently released interview with Imaginez with Discovery, legendary manga editor Torishima mentioned that One Piece almost didn’t make it to serialization. While it is hard to imagine a world without Oda’s masterpiece, higher-ups at Shōnen Jump (including Torishima) initially doubted the potential of One Piece, but, after seeing the passion that Oda held for the series and the lack of available talent at the time, they decided to give the series a shot

>>279585206
You're still mad about this, huh

>>279585239
>We just read and like both
>there's nothing worth talking about lol kgb is just so much more intellectually stimulating

>>279584399
that's ridiculous, the women are good characters and there's great fujobait
people on xitter are crazy in general

>>279585302

>>279585292
KGB gets the most hate here, the issue is that it all comes from a couple of rabid schizos.

>>279585302

>>279585336
Kumugi is cute.
Give her more screentime, more cute outfits, more shipping moments with Ichi and I assure you the threads will become more active

>>279585452
Says more you couldn't reply directly

>>279585534
Nope, 3rd party and this guy has been kicking your ass up and down the thread

>>279585595
Is english hard for you or...?

>>279585636
>And it was Togashi (HxH) that rocketed it to stardom with recommending it to Ufotable. Things One Piss inspired? 0.
Wasn't it Nasu? Do they have a connection?

Glad I can go to work and come back and people are still beating the shit out of the local piss drinker.
Bro, stop embarrassing yourself.
Also refer to this
>>279576965

>basketball references
all of you here are niggers, right?

What have happened in the past two days? The thread quality nosedived really hard.

No wonder this thread is full of chimping.

>>279585751
It is a reference to slam dunk

>>279585477
>h-heh he said it again!!
Deflecting now because yoy can't refute the actual argument after repeatedly getting your ass handed to you in this and last thread, you little cuck? lmao

Take your L and call it a day, nigga.

>>279585772
Retards try to argue against OP being the biggest manga with conspiracy theories that make them look like schizos

>seafags
>spics
>jeets
>niggers
Nice group of people

>WINNERS

>>279585828
don't forget turks

Kimetsufags call everyone Jeremy the same way schizos call everyone Nedicbas or Crepal

>>279585828
I might be black, but at least I'm not RUDE.

>>279584985
lol no. DS isn't Shohei, it isn't even Ichiro. DS is a middle school kid who hit one home run at recess and never touched the bat again.

Ohtani is:
>multi-talented, MVP-tier pitcher and hitter
>consistently dominant
>breaking records every season
>still active, still evolving
>competing year after year
Sound familiar to you? Oh, right. It's OP all over again. Meanwhile, DS:
>couldn't even hit 100k per volume pre-anime
>carried entirely by ufotable
>peaked for one year
>ended before facing the pressure of longevity
>vanished from relevance once the final chapter dropped
You’re comparing an all-time two-way phenomenon to a manga that literally dodged the second inning. DS is the Jeremy Lin, OJ Mayo and Freddy Adu of manga. It's the manga version of a TikTok one-hit wonder, everyone vibed for a summer, then forgot it even existed. You know you lost when your entire comeback hinges on trying to name-drop a real-world athlete that your series couldn't even emulate narratively or commercially. Here's another L, nigga.

>>279585828
And europoors

>>279586126
Yeah these threads have gone full schizo
Making a basic observation marks you as their boogeyman

>>279585372
Ruri x Hello Kitty or KGB x Hello Kitty when?

didnt this bcuck got banned? Why is he ban evading?

>>279585372
Why is winnie the pooh a powerhouse

>>279585911
>n-no a-actually you lost cause you're having an ouchie!!
Cry moar, you little cuck. I already dunked your ass for the last couple of hours, I'm only replying to you to get more laughs out of your Alex Jones-tier conspiracy theories.

Here's another L to you btw. Don't forget to wear your tinfoil hat, lil bro.

>>279579926
>>279580727
>>279584264
Why are you so mind broken?
You are literally consumed with trying to make everything on 4chan personal because this is the only human interaction you have in your life.

>>279585372
the TCG probably puts pokemon even higher

>>279586632
The TCG is already included

yuta is so lucky

>>279586688
this chart is old

So now that Magic The gathering went full Fortnite, when can we expect the Dragon Ball expansion set?

>>279585772
Pissfag is getting clowned on.

>>279585372
>Fist of the North Star so high for "videogames"
Is it pachinkos or what?

>>279585751
Jeremy kept bringing up Michael Jordan. He started comparing him to OP yesterday and hasn't stopped since.

look at how many times the bcuck samefagged

>>279586712
Yup, here's the recent one from 2024.

https://desuarchive.org/a/search/tnum/279575021/deleted/deleted/

>He went crying to the mods
LMAO pathetic

>thread immediately comes to a halt as soon as the resident schizo, bcuck, gets rangebanned

>>279585287

>>279587154
Hi jeremy, keep going, PLEASE.

>>279587264
>kgbkek got deleted

>>279587154
Im still here Jeremy

>>279586697
Failed troll lolcow.

>>279586399
You lost

>>279587295
>>279587264
Failure.

Let's talk manga?

>>279587454
No.

>>279586795
Got clowned on so hard he chimped out and called the mods to mass delete posts lmao. Such is the life of a pissfag

>>279581481
>>279581427
>>279585239
Bcuck is akanefag and possibly an akaneschizo? Holy fucking shit.

>>279585350
It's really easy to spot you, schizo, with your
>Its just one person!
cope.

>>279587551
I thought not every single post was by the same boogeyman jeremy?

>>279587578
Case in point >>279587571
It's like there were multiple people shitting on you.
But I guess that only applies when it's convenient to you.

>Ctrl+f: [Deleted]
>67 results
What was going on?

>>279587578
Not when it's nuked by IP.

>>279587649
Jeremy sperged out and then ran to the mods to ban everyone who bullied him.
You know, the usual.

>>279587649
We're talking about the bcuck that spammed the same images everyday on mha thread for 5 years culminating to 48 pages on archive. This is nothing.

>>279587666
And you realize mods can nuke several ips at once, right?

>>279585372
>>279586888
a good jump game could make it beat Mario...

Stand aside Gojo and World Hater kun

>The amount of same fagging in that deleted posts
lmao. Bro, really wanted someone to agree with him.

>>279587719
>We have the White Walkers at home

>>279585372
warm piss fag doesn't even know this image source is a wiki that was edited by mistake
and there's no such thing in the wiki anymore except DB and DS

>>279587707
They can if they select it manually, but the posts I mentioned aren't really off-topic. So that's an IP nuke, and the only part warranting deletion is bcuck's usual schizobabble.

Its funny because even the indian pissfag doesn't believe his own arguments

>>279587719

>loses arguments
>gets dogpiled
>cries to mods
OH NO NO NO NO

>>279587810
>felled by one little girl and her dagger

>>279586712
The chart is from here
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_highest-grossing_media_franchises

notice how there's no one piece

>>279587838
What does Black Clover have to do with anything Jeremy? They mindbroke your ass hard god damn.

Pissfag is still getting shit on even after the deleted posts.

>>279587719
is that odin?

>>279587930
Who else is that nuked schizo then?

>ban evading already

>>279588051
>pot
>kettle

>>279586258
Merchandise is the true king maker, toys, notebooks, children clothing, etc... it is where the real money is

must hurt to have to wait 300 seconds after every single post huh

>>279588158
You would know since you love ban evading.

bcuck...

This was a good thread

>>279588209
Extremely.

Akanebanashi is so popular yet, despite being a drama, I never see anyone discussing the characters

>>279587898
Nice try, cuck. But the Wikipedia page you're drooling over is missing One Piece, Naruto, and a lot of other juggernaut franchises and even has fucking Demon Slayer nearly as big as Dragon Ball which is false too, as all of Demon Slayer's revenue came from 2020.

Picrel is far more accurate. Visual Capitalist doesn't just spit out numbers, they break down revenue by stream (merch, games, manga, etc.), which is the only real way to compare franchises across different industries. Wikipedia just slaps random numbers together with little consistency. DB is worthy of $31.6B, One Piece is $24.8B and Naruto is $17.2B. You lose again, fag.

>>279588318
>Akanebanashi is so popular yet
No, it's not. Even nips barely read it.

>>279588365
>Demon Slayer's revenue came from 2020.
It had a lot of collabs and merchandise.

eh, i can agree that kimetsu was popular than OP in that 3-4 years span.
But pretending that OP is never popular or that its less popular as a franchise compared to kimetsu is a whole other story lol.

Thoughts on the upcoming series?

>>279588365
I looked at the Wikipedia list and it's so ass, lmao. Dragon Ball isn't worthy of a measly $9 billion. YGO isn't worthy of a lousy $5 billion, it's at least worthy of $20 billion and how is Naruto and One Piece not even listed at all?

Demon Slayer had one freak spike in 2020 when the anime exploded, then flatlined since then. That's not a franchise, that's a moment. Wikipedia is trash as always.

>>279588559
better than black clover

>>279588574
>that's a moment
You can cry all you want but having high grossing movies every year and raking in a ton of tv money through advertising and high ratings make it a franchise.
One piece wishes as many people watched it on TV.

>>279588559
female coach and it dieswnd2jp

>>279588559
Looks like the next Haikyuu

>>279588559
Shameless fujobait

>>279588559
>surrounded by every popular series... and kill blue
The shilling, I can feel it.

>>279588614
>high grossing movies every year
It had one high grossing movie. Its compilation movie got beaten by bocchi the rock, another compilation movie.

>>279588654
Yeah, but it's INCEST fujobait which is immediately cool

>>279588559
too much sports, not enough giant robots

What's getting axed this week? Embers or Syd?

>>279588559
do nip kids even like sports anymore? if it's not also romance or fujobait these will flop
then there's one that looks like exorcistslop

>>279588673
Anon, its last two movies did over 40 million DOLLARS, that's, by all accounts a high grossing anime movie with an amazing return based on budget.
>bocchi the rock, another compilation movie.
Lol

>>279588778
Wasn't syd yesterday?

>>279588778
syd, if they're going in order from oldest series to newest like they usually do

>>279588485
I thought the main argument was about One Piece getting special treatment from Shueisha and overprinting.

>>279588922
Everyone except the schizo agrees.
Same with stuff like kimetsu's first print that happened right after the stealth marketing failure.
Its first print only exists to keep it on top

i like kimetsu no yaiba

>>279589250
I remember when this board was the only place in the west that even gave a shit about it and even scanlated it because no one would pick it up.
Bunch of bandwagonners.

>checks Wan Piss general
>it is 90% AI slop porn
Shitty threads befitting the shitty manga.

>>279589250
No you dont. I do.

>>279589285
After the anime there like three new groups who tried to snipe the TL too

>>279589472
>nemi...

>>279588559
I hope they all sell <10k

>>279589582
The fuck does nemi mean

>>279588559
That baseball one looks like U19 material

>>279589633
>he doesn't know
Good for you.

>>279589632
I hope they ALL sell ok and we get a true bloodbath in the minor leagues.

>>279588614
>high grossing movies every year
Nice hyperbole, fag. Mugen Train was a one-off phenomenon. It came out at the apex of Covid, had no international competitors and ran on theaters for 6 months. That's how it raked in $500M. But after that?
>Swordsmith Village movie = glorified recap
>Hashira Training = another shitty recap
Both got mogged by Bocchi the Rock, a compilation movie about shy cute girls playing in a band. That's the first recap movie ever with no new content to top Japan's weekend box office. “High grossing movies every year” is another one of your lies you hope people don't notice. It had one monster hit, and that's it.
>high ratings
True... for Mugen Train and Entertainment District only. And only because it was still riding the 2020 hype tsunami. Ratings have steadily declined since 2022. Swordsmith Village barely cracked 5% in TV ratings and Hashira Training also struggled.
>One piece wishes as many people watched it on TV.
One Piece never needed a peak because it IS the plateau, lol. It's like The Simpsons or WWE, aways there, always watched, always part of the culture. People grow up with it. Parents who watched East Blue are now watching Egghead with their kids. It's pulled 3-5% weekly for over 20 years in a way tougher timeslot than Demon Slayer's and the fact that it still holds strong shows just how insane its staying power is. It doesn't need no flash-in-the-pan, once-a-year miracle event to stay relevant. You lose again, fag.

i like haikyuu!!

>>279590540
>extra 20 million circulation since it ended
Jump loves it too!

>>279590287
High grossing doesnt mean highest grossing dumbfuck. Nice reading comprehension.
>Swordsmith Village barerly cracked 5% in TV ratings and Hashira Training also struggled
Smordsmith premiered at 8% viewership.
Last episode of Hashira had a 5 to 6.9% TV rating, dirty liar

>>279590565
https://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2023-05-27/japanese-animation-tv-ranking-may-15-21/.198467
Imagine lying when you can easily look up the data.

>>279590721
https://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2023-04-15/japanese-animation-tv-ranking-april-3-9/.197076

>>279590793
Hashira Training arc
https://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2024-06-22/japanese-animation-tv-ranking-june-10-16/.212222
Now proceed to kys

Knybros... we lost

>>279590565
>High grossing doesnt mean highest grossing dumbfuck. Nice reading comprehension
Thanks for the lecture, Paco. Let me help you with something called context. 'High grossing movies every year' is still bullshit and you know it. Mugen Train was a one-time meteor strike during a perfect storm. Covid theater lockdown, no competition, and a 6-month theatrical run. Everything after that? Recaps that flopped or got mogged by Bocchi the Rock.
>Smordsmith premiered at 8% viewership.
Yeah, Swordsmith premiered at 8.0%, and Hashira hit 6.4% at best. You just posted their peaks, and they're already lower than the Entertainment District arc from three years ago. If this was a franchise on the rise, numbers would be going up, not down. They're decent ratings, but nothing legendary and it sure as fuck is not sustainable, lol. Also, OP pulls 3-5% every Sunday morning, week after week, year after year. No hype arcs, no theatrical-level shilling, no recap specials. Just pure weekly, long-term dominance in the hardest time slot for anime on TV. You keep flexing over DS scraping a 6% late at night, while OP is quietly holding down the same ballpark at breakfast time for 25 years straight. I'm not a 'dirty liar', you’re just a desperate little fag clinging to your last few spikes like they mean more than they do. DS had its moment, it peaked in 2020. One Piece never peaked, because it never had to. It just stayed.

Thanks for the links though. All they really did was prove I was right. Know your place and take the L, bro. It's good for your health.

>>279590654
>I-I cant refute his arguments. MODS SAVE ME
You lost

>>279591189
Yeah, you still haven't refuted any of my other arguments, lol. All you've been doing is tap dancing for me with your Info Wars-tier conspiracy theories how Oda is running a mafia like the good little monkey you are.

Here's another L btw.

>>279591183
>Context
Lol high grossing is high grossing. One movie beating it doesn't mean it didnt gross high or flopped. Giant cope
>ok I lied but its still bad!!
I thought you said KnY peaked with covid. This is 2023 and 2024, 3 to 4 years after and what do you know, still high, number 1 even beat fucking Sazae-San. Man this is too easy.

I lost bigly...

>Nice Prison + the new manga will all do 9k at best
>Otr might do 5k like RH
holy grim

>>279591371
https://www.oneesports.gg/anime/demon-slayer-2023-movie-japan-box-office/

https://m.imdb.com/news/ni64429800/

>>279591371
>Lol high grossing is high grossing.
Nope. Your original claim was 'h-high-grossing movies every year!!' That implies consistency, not one historic fluke and a bunch of recap scraps that couldn't outsell cute shy anime girls in a music club. You tried to flex a trend that doesn't exist. That's not cope, that's correction after you got caught lying.
>I thought you said KnY peaked with covid
Yeah, and I stand by it. Mugen Train hit 21.4% on TV as a 1-night broadcast which is peaking. Since then?
>Entertainment District: 8-9%
>Swordsmith: 8.0% (premiere only), 4-5%
>Hashira Training: 6.4-6.9%
So you're literally bragging about a steady decline. You just proved the peak happened already, and it's been slowly deflating ever since and you're confusing 'not dead' with 'still thriving', and it’s embarrassing.
>still high, number 1 even beat fucking Sazae-San.
You're bragging about “beating Sazae-san” for one night. One Piece has outlived multiple generations of anime, lmao. It doesn't need a #1 once in a while, it IS the standard. It has a flatline of dominance. 3-5% every week, every year, in a harder timeslot.
>Man this is too easy.
You're right, it is lol. You walked into this with a hype-driven seasonal anime and tried to compare it to a legacy titan that's been on top longer than Demon Slayer’s ever existed. Now you're juggling cherry-picked stats like it's a dub, while I'm over here drowning you in your own words.

Here's another L bro.

>>279592005
>That implies consistency
Yes. And it's consistently grossing high. Literally posted proof too. Just because they arent Mugen Train levels or outselling one movie doesnt make it a flop. They were still highly successful. Arguement by repetition. No refute.
>You're bragging about a steady decline
A steady decline that is still high in tv ratings. Not the 5% Swordsmith and Hashira barely scrapping by you tried to lie about. The first link was several weeks after the premiere at 7% so again you're fucking wrong. One piece that week was at a measly 2% mind you, just for comparison.
>One piece outlived mul
Irrelevant
Keep fumbling. I can do this all day.

>>279592654
3% not 2%

>>279592005
>>279588614
Since you keep forgetting what the original argument was about.
High grossing movies and high tv ratings. Both of which are true with evidence. Your move.
NTA btw

>>279591741
Bro is seriously trying to flex over a flash-in-the-pan first weekend, when everyone was still buying tickets based on leftover Mugen Train/Entertainment District hype, lol. It topped the box office briefly because there was no serious competition and then it immediately lost momentum after week 1. This was early 2023. We're halfway through 2025 now. No one talks about this 'movie' anymore for a reason except for fags like (You) still clinging to his 15 minutes of fame.

Even Bocchi the Rock, a SOL anime about cute anxious girls in a garage band, just flexed harder than both Demon Slayer's Swordsmith Village and Into the Hashira Training recap movies. And guess what? Both were just recap films. Neither had new content. The difference? Bocchi actually filled seats, pulled records, and made ¥1.14 billion from two recap films, with zero fight scenes, no breathing techniques, and no billion dollar shounen backing it. Meanwhile, Hashira Training crawled past ¥500 million and died. That’s less than half of what To the Swordsmith Village made, and that was already a recap buffet. This wasn't a win. This was the diehards showing up out of obligation, and even they’re tapping out.

You're making this all too easy for me, cuck.

When are we getting ToC and ending leaks?

>>279592654
>And it's consistently grossing high.
Nah, nigga. You're trying to redefine 'high-grossing movies every year' to mean 'decent-performing recap screenings with half the revenue of their own earlier recap.' You don't get to call it consistent when your numbers are literally cutting in half every year.
>To the Swordsmith Village (2023): ~$8.8M
>Hashira Training (2024): ¥500M ($3.2M)
That's not consistency, that's decline.
>Just because they arent Mugen Train levels or outselling one movie doesnt make it a flop.
No one said they flopped completely. I said they don't prove franchise momentum, which was my original argument, if you could actually read. You made it sound like DS was dropping billion-yen hits every year. Now you're here settling for 'w-well it didn’t flop!!' You don't get to backpedal on me. That's not a win, that's called lowering the bar so you can trip over it slower.
>They were still highly successful."
Compared to what? Not to JJK 0. Not to OP Film Red. Not to DBS Super Hero. Not to Boy and the Heron, a movie without any marketing campaign, no trailers or promotional stills of the film before its premiere. And not to Bocchi the Rock, which had no new content, no fights, no shounen clout and still outperformed the Hashira Training. Success is relative, and you're comparing recap scraps to Mugen Train and pretending it's dominance.
>The first link was several weeks after the premiere at 7%
Right, and that proves nothing except the peak already passed.
You posted one above-average rating in a late-night slot with prime Fuji TV placement, and you're acting like it's revolutionary.
Bro, even MHA cracked 6% in its peak weeks. That doesn't mean it's still peaking. DS is on the decline, you just don't want to admit it.

>>279592654
>One piece that week was at a measly 3% mind you
Yeah, and again, you STILL don't understand the difference in timeslots. DS airs late Sunday night, in a prime anime-focused block with a targeted fanbase. OP airs Sunday morning at 9:30 AM, when half the audience is eating breakfast or not even awake. 3% in that slot is equivalent to your 6% at night. That's the whole point, you're comparing an anime event slot to a graveyard time, and still acting like you've won something.
>I-Irrelevant!!
LMAO. The fact that you just called longevity irrelevant in a media franchise debate tells me you already lost. OP has outlasted fads, peaked past its competitors, and still pulls strong numbers after 25 years. That is the argument. You're clinging to 4 years of DS momentum and thinking you're holding a legacy. You're not, you're holding a hot streak that's already cooling off.

That's why I call OP Michael Jordan and DS Jeremy Lin. Cope more, cuck.

>>279592804
>>279593326
Avatarposting is not welcome in /a/
Pissdrinker is a retard and a newfag
Also late night timeslots typically get less viewership than Sunday 9 AM shows because Wan Piss is targeted towards toddlers

>>279593420
How are you still going? The "pissfag" assraped you and you keep coming back for more. You have no convincing arguments.

>You're comparing recap scraps to Mugen Train
YOU are comparing the recaps to Mugen Train and now comparing it to other movies in an attempt to strawman. Were the recap movies high grossing? That was the argument, not were the recap movies selling gang busters like Mugen Train, JJK0, One Piece Red.
>>279593183
>No one said it flopped
>>279591183
Flopped or got mogged by Bocchi the Rock
>That proves nothing
Except that it wasnt scrapping by at 5% tv ratings. Here are all the weeks.

>>279592005
All of Swordsmith tv ratings each week. Not once did it reach 4-5%
https://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2023-05-03/japanese-animation-tv-ranking-april-17-23/.197594

https://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2023-05-11/japanese-animation-tv-ranking-april-24-30/.197987

https://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2023-05-18/japanese-animation-tv-ranking-may-1-7/.198195

https://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2023-05-25/japanese-animation-tv-ranking-may-8-14/.198377

https://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2023-05-27/japanese-animation-tv-ranking-may-15-21/.198467

https://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2023-06-03/japanese-animation-tv-ranking-may-22-28/.198762

https://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2023-06-10/japanese-animation-tv-ranking-may-29-june-4/.198963

https://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2023-06-17/japanese-animation-tv-ranking-june-5-11/.199254

https://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2023-06-24/japanese-animation-tv-ranking-june-12-18/.199534

And it beat Sazae-san for 4 nights. Cope and seethe

>Entire Twitter accounts dedicated to GMR fanfiction/shipping
This is how you know your manga made it big

>>279575990
A lot of it was me and another guy saying how bad it was though.

>>279593596
It sells on par with Akane

>>279593484
Okay pissfag, take your meds.

>>279593326
>You still dont understand the difference in timeslots
Sounds like a cope to me. And no where is Sunday morning a graveyard time lmao.
Bringing up one piece's "legacy" is irrelevant because one piece's ratings has nothing to do with whether or not KnY still gets high tv ratings.

>>279593547
>YOU are comparing the recaps to Mugen Train and now comparing it to other movies in an attempt to strawman.
No, I'm comparing DS's declining recap numbers to your original bullshit claim of 'h-high grossing movies every year!!' Which turned out to be one historical anomaly and two mid-tier recap packages that couldn't even top Bocchi the Rock. You invoked consistency and I exposed that lie. You don't know what a strawman is, learn the word before you spew it, Paco.
>Were the recap movies high grossing?
Barely. 'High grossing' doesn't just mean 'made a few million.' We're talking recap movies pulling half or less of the previous ones, getting outperformed by a SOL anime about awkward band girls, and falling off the box office within a week. That's not success, it's a steep downward trend with a loyal fanbase barely holding it up.
>Flopped or got mogged by Bocchi the Rock
Yeah, I did. And I was right. Swordsmith recap made ~$8.8M. Hashira Training recap barely scraped ¥500M.

Bocchi the Rock recap made ¥1.14B (~$8M) total. No shounen hype, no fights, no billion-dollar franchise. If DS's recap needs that kind of power and still gets outdone by awkward moe girls? That's a mogging.
>Except that it wasnt scrapping by at 5% tv ratings.
You're right, I stand corrected here. It scraped between 6-7% at its best, which is not bad but it's nowhere near what it used to be. You're flexing numbers that are objectively lower than Mugen Train (both movie 1-night broadcast and TV version), lower than Entertainment District, and showing a clear downward slope.

You're bragging about beating Sazae-san for a few nights like that’s a major milestone. Meanwhile, OP has outlived Sazae-san generations and pulls 3-4% in a much harder Sunday morning slot, every single week, for over 20 years. OP doesn't need to beat Sazae-san a few times. It is Sazae-san for shounen. And you just proved it can pull similar ballpark numbers without all the prime-time fanfare. Cry more, cuck.

So no one is actually interested in talking about the next issue, instead of this silly fight about ratings? It's already Thursday: shouldn't we be getting leaks by now?

>>279575634
alright, post more % of growth charts

One Piece unironically carries the entire WSJ and the shonen genre

Did you know Shueisha LIED about Dragon Ball sales to pretend One Piece of Shit was doing better?
In 2008 it was stated Dragon Ball has sold over 350 million units, and that number was reiterated for years, until they decided to change it to 260 million.

>>279593685
>Sounds like a cope to me.
Nah. Cope is what you're doing right now: dismissing facts because they blow a hole through your hype. The difference in timeslots isn't an excuse, it's a literal structural reality of Japanese TV. DS airs at 11:15 PM on Sunday, in Fuji TV's prime late-night anime block, catered directly to anime fans. It's literally designed to hit its target audience. OP airs at 9:30 AM Sunday, a family/kids slot, when anime fans aren’t even the main demographic. Families, children, and casual viewers are. Where they're broadcasting kids shows, family programming, cooking shows, news, etc.

That's like airing AoT between Power Rangers and cooking shows and still pulling top 10 rankings every week. And OP does it every week, for 25 years, without recap boosts, prime-time slots, or movie hype. If you think that's not impressive, then you've never touched a broadcast schedule in your life.
>Bringing up one piece's "legacy" is irrelevant
Fucking idiot. You're comparing two franchises, of course longevity matters.
OP isn't just surviving, it's still ranking side-by-side with DS at half the hype, in a harder slot and without seasonal breaks. That's not 'i-irrelevant!!', that's the exact thing DS lacks: long-term sustainability. DS had 4 solid years, OP has had four eras.
>one piece's ratings has nothing to do with whether or not KnY still gets high tv ratings.
No shit. But your entire argument started by trying to compare the two like DS was pulling ahead, dominating, thriving, etc. I responded by showing how even at its "high," DS is still dipping, and barely pulling ahead of OP during one-season hype boosts. You shifted from:
>demon Slayer dominates in every way!!
to
>w-well it's still pulling good numbers!
to
>s-stop bringing up legacy! c-cope!!"
You moved the goalposts so far, they’re in a different time zone now.

If Shindo wasnt frail as shit he'd be Top 2, now Ruri wont surprass 150k until the anime

>>279594073
Hey retard, high grossing does not mean the literal highest grossing, stop using false dichotomies like a retard.
>Yeah, I did. And I was right. Swordsmith recap made ~$8.8M. Hashira Training recap barely scraped ¥500M.
Use the same currency, retard. ¥500M is roughly more than $3M which is good enough for a training arc that is mostly anime original, also that recap movie was not released in as many countries as the previous ones.
>It scraped between 6-7% at its best, which is not bad but it's nowhere near what it used to be.
It is literally the best of its period and your beloved Piss show will never get close in the future.

>>279588001
Odin has only one eye, so that can't be him.

>>279588001
Its Adventure Time Ice King

>>279594447
>And OP does it every week, for 25 years, without recap boosts, prime-time slots, or movie hype.
Lie after lie after lie. Can you stop embarrassing yourself faggot?

>>279594073
You literally just did. It may be declining but it isnt in flop or underperforming territory. Consistency was in regards to consistently having high grossing movies.
>a few million
Try several million. And if it was not successful or high grossing, why was only one movie able to surpass it?
>You're right I stand corrected here.
Glad to hear it but again, it not being as high doesnt mean it isnt still high. I never denied it is declining, I literally said even after a steady decline its ratings are still very high.
>>279592654
Beating Sazae-san is a major milestone because Sazae-san is constantly the most watched show in JP with top ratings. To beat it several times requires high tv ratings.

Hey Pissfag, how about you jerk off to the goonslop filling up your general.
No wonder your arguments are so retarded when your brain has been thoroughly fried.

>One Piece
Manga that required to run for decades and get colossal promotions to reach some success.
Still gets overprinted to pretend it is more successful than it actually is.
And even then a new manga like Kimetsu no Yaiba can assrape it in few years.

>>279594626
>Hey retard, high grossing does not mean the literal highest grossing, stop using false dichotomies like a retard.
You keep screaming 'high grossing =/= highest grossing' like anyone disagreed. What I actually did, because reading is hard for you, is show that you used 'high grossing movies every year!!' like DS was stacking Mugen Train-level hits annually. And then I pointed out: no, it's not. The trend is downward, the hype is cooling, and you're just trying to redefine your own argument every time it gets stomped.
>Use the same currency, retard.
lmao. You mean like I did right there, showing Bocchi made ¥1.14B, while Hashira made ¥500M? I literally used both currencies in the same sentence for clarity, and you're mad because it still proves your beloved franchise got out-earned by cute guitar girls in hoodies. Cry moar, you loser.
>¥500M is roughly more than $3M which is good enough for a training arc
Oh? Is it? Then why did To the Swordsmith Village make nearly triple that, despite being another recap? Why did Bocchi the Rock blow past it with less marketing, less fanbase, and no shounen fights at all? Because 'i-t’s good for a training arc!' isn't a defense, it's an admission of decline. You know it. I know it. You just don't want to say the words.
>your beloved Piss show will never get close in the future.
lol. OP pulls 3-5% every week, for over 25 years. In a dead zone morning slot, with no seasonal hype, no breaks, no recap re-releases, and no theatrical tie-ins to boost ratings. It doesn't have to "get close" to one-night recap spikes. It's been there, done that, and stayed long after everyone else packed up and OP will also outlive DS. Keep coping.

>>279594447
>DS airs at 11:15pm on Sunday
11pm on a Sunday? When people have to be up early the next morning for work ans school? And pulling in those ratings? You just made KnY's tv ratings MORE valuable. KnY's demographic is largely women and children as well as anime fans so that a whole two demographics that stayed up late on a Sunday before a work and school week to tune in.

>Its still ranking side by side with Demon slayer
6 -7% compared to 2-3% is not side by side at all lol.
>long term sustainability
One piece has long term sustainability because it has no known end in sight. Demon Slayer's serialization is over. Of course One Piece is going to have long term sustainability because Demon Slayer straight up doesnt have finite material left to adapt unless they just decide to do reruns for years to come. A victory by technicality.
>Barely pulling ahead
Refer to the ratings post above

>>279595173
*has infinite material

>>279595002
Mentally ill kimetsufag trying to downplay the manga carrying all of Jump on its back right now.
When your worthless author quit after a short run, it's no wonder Jump treats OP as a godsent manga. As a business, why the fuck should you ever care about talent that blows up for a year then quits on you just as fast.

>>279595019
>high grossing movies every year!!
this statement is still very true, downward trend or not, you dishonest faggot
>In a dead zone morning slot
untrue and other kids shows airing in a similar timeslot get high viewership
including Kamen Rider which directly faced One Piece in Sunday mornings
And One Piece changed to a late night timeslot recently, too bad it will still never top the charts
>but consistency
Crayon Shin-chan is consistent, this is what is like for the public
>no seasonal hype, no breaks, no recap re-releases, and no theatrical tie-ins
all lies, unless you lived under a rock for the past decade
One Piece is the single most promoted manga ever and even then its sales have been in decline for years and it will fall under 1 million units per volume sold for new releases soon

>>279595396
Because that talent made them in a year what Oda could not in half a decade

>>279595493
Sure, that's why they left KnY in the bin and treat OP as the golden boy right? Retarded kimetsufag. Your FOTM is worthless and Jump knew it.

>>279594732
lmao. No, it's not a lie. It's literally been documented for decades. OP has consistently pulled 3-5% weekly in a Sunday morning slot with no seasonal rest, no "event" treatment, and no recap movie padding. And yeah, Sazae-san is a ratings monster, but you bragging that DS beat it four times in a year just proves my point: it's a short-term spike, not consistency. OP doesn’t need to beat Sazae-san occasionally, it just exists in its own lane without needing headlines.
>>279594915
Oh, this is rich coming from a DS faggot.

DS underperformed for 3 straight years until Ufotable's anime dropped in 2019 and vol 1 finally sold 300K after being stuck in the 150K limbo for years. It made no significant improvement in sales nor popularity before then. By comparison, Toriko vol 1 sold more than 200K.

And the best part is, even the industry admits this.
>Regarding the series' sudden huge success, Weekly Shōnen Jump editor-in-chief Hiroyuki Nakano stated that the manga sales shot up straight after its anime adaptation finished, explaining that a large number of people watched the series through streaming services after it ended rather than watching it weekly. Nakano also stated that currently is harder for a manga series running in the magazine to become a hit, and Demon Slayer: Kimetsu no Yaiba despite having started in February 2016, did not became a major hit until late 2019, adding that its "success hinged on word of mouth generated after the anime's run".
Meanwhile:
>OP hit 20 million copies sold per year before the anime was even halfway through Water 7
>it single-handedly saved WSJ and carried the magazine throughout the 2000s and 10s
>it still outsells most manga even in its twilight era
OP didn't need "colossal promotion." It IS the promotion. You lose again, cuck.

12 chapters in and somehow the teacher side character is the most interesting character so far
It’s a fine manga and all but the MC feels kinda flat in her emotional range

>>279595548
>>279595618
No matter how you seethe
Warm piss is warm piss
it'll never be anything more than piss no matter how much they promote it
Also big part of OP sales came from the movie boost back in 2008/2009. You should thank Toei for that

>>279595718
Nice to see you're completely out of counters. You can cry about OP promotion all you want, it's just an admission that KnY was worth fuck all to Jump. KnY is not the golden boy and it never will be.

>>279595790
>KnY is not the golden boy and it never will be.
Tell this to all Chinese collaborations

>>279594447
>No shit. But your entire argument started by trying to compare the two like DS was pulling ahead, dominating, thriving, etc. I responded by showing how even at its "high," DS is still dipping, and barely pulling ahead of OP during one-season hype boosts. You shifted from:


This is one piece current TV ratings btw . new one piece anime is in the SAME slot as demon slayer. not in the morning
Meanwhile the "forgotten demon slayer" has 24.5 million viewers

>>279595883
>Meanwhile the "forgotten demon slayer" has 24.5 million viewers
https://www.videor.co.jp/press/2025/250115.html

We love you OP bro

>>279595790
I wasn't the one arguing with you subhuman indian
Literally everyone in this thread knows you're bullshiting subhuman. And a corporate bootlicker at that even. We don't have to argue when we know the truth.

>>279595953
He's based for reminding these coping kimetsufags why they're no better than FOTMshit that got forgotten by Jump

>>279588365
You dumb SUBHUMAN PAJEET learn to read and research and not take anything as higher source. You dumb subhuman underage


https://ultimatepopculture.fandom.com/wiki/List_of_highest-grossing_media_franchises

It's literally the wikipedia article copied before the fix.

Do you know why one piss was so high? Because some autist was literally making up numbers. Holy fuck no wonder you're a fan of one piece if you're thhis low IQ

>>279595410
>this statement is still very true, downward trend or not, you dishonest faggot
No, it's not. You're calling ¥500M box office for a recap movie 'high grossing'? That's mid-tier at best for a billion dollar franchise. When your own fandom has to dig up technicalities and call 'not a flop' the same thing as 'high grossing,' you’re already losing. 'High grossing every year' implies momentum. What we have is a clear downward trend:
>Mugen Train: historic anomaly
>Swordsmith Village recap: ~$8.8M
>Hashira Training recap: ¥500M ($3.2M), outperformed by Bocchi
That's not a franchise climbing, that's one slowly sinking while the core fanbase refuses to admit it.
>untrue and other kids shows airing in a similar timeslot get high viewership
lol. You just brought up Kamen Rider, a literal cultural institution in Japan that's aimed at little boys and families and aired since 1971. That's not a flex, it's exactly what OP is competing with every week and still pulling ratings above or in line with it for decades. Also, OP only recently moved to late-night in 2023 after over 20 years of airing Sunday mornings. Even now, it's still ranking, still charting weekly in Kanto ratings, without seasonal format or hype bombs.
>Crayon Shin-chan is consistent
Cool. And so is Doraemon. So is Maruko-chan. That's not an argument, that's a list of legacy IPs that people grow up watching. You know what those shows all have in common? They outlasted dozens of trend-based shows like DS.
>One Piece is the single most promoted manga ever
Yeah, and so is DS. You literally had a McDonald's collab, Sony Music backing it up, recap movies, subway takeovers, and train reskins in Japan when Mugen Train dropped. If you want to whine about marketing, DS is the shiniest product Shueisha has ever overexposed.

>>279596096
HOLY FUCKNIG SHIT LMAOOOOOOOOOOO
Why is this one piss fag such a slave to authority? He sounds like those boomers who get brainwashed by CNN or something.

>>279596153
The difference is DS had huge collabs and promotions after it became popular not before

love one piece
‘ate demon slayer
simple as

Hate one piece
love all other manga
simple

>>279595790
You finally admitted One Piece gets special treatement after a whole 2 threads? Amazing

>>279596283
So far he admitted
>Stealth marketing campigan happened
>One Piece is generic for not being influential
>One Piece is promoted heavily
one step at a time

love our WINNERS
simple as

>>279596283
OP is literally carrying Jump so I don't know what gotcha you think you're making

>>279596096
>>279596162
Retard. I linked the UltimatePopCulture page, which, unlike the Wikipedia page you worship, actually cites individual revenue categories, has per-stream breakdowns, and includes franchises that Wikipedia list mysteriously leaves out, like OP and Naruto. The Visual Capitalist chart uses that data and aggregates it across sources, and openly declares the source and scope of each figure.

Meanwhile, the Wikipedia article you're defending was previously vandalized, is full of estimates like "DB $9B" (false), and doesn't even show how the revenue was calculated. So no, the list I posted isn't some 'f-fake copied wiki' from before the "fix." It's literally a more complete and traceable dataset than the Wikipedia article that got nerfed with missing entries and made-up totals.

Bandai alone pulled in ¥144.5 billion (~$1.1B) in DB merch revenue between 2016-2023. DB is one of Toei's top 3 revenue pillars year after year followed by OP and Toei announced OP now makes more money for them than DB.

The $9B figure doesn’t even scratch the surface of game revenue, home video, global licensing, and card sales. So yeah, Visual Capitalist's $27.8B+ figure for DB is the reasonable one. Wikipedia's $9B is just someone pulling from a half-baked pie chart and pretending it's gospel.

Cry more, cuck.

>this entire debate
You people are fucking retards

>Be pissfag
>try to start arguments against KnY
>gets btfo by multiple anons
>seethes so hard he mass reports posts
>thread still continues to shit on him
>still continues to fumble his arguments with fallacies and dishonesty
>Cycle of Humiliation continues
Press F to spit on pissfag's grave.

>>279596384
The "carrying jump" in question

>>279596438
How convenient you leave out the part where the entire print industry globally is in collapse
OP is the only manga keeping Jump afloat after KnY did jack shit

>>279596407
>Retard. I linked the UltimatePopCulture page, which, unlike the Wikipedia page you worship, actually cites individual revenue categories, has per-stream breakdowns, and includes franchises that Wikipedia list mysteriously leaves out, like OP and Naruto. The Visual Capitalist chart uses that data and aggregates it across sources, and openly declares the source and scope of each figure.
You fucking subhuman It was the wikipedia page you fucking RETARDED SUBHUMAN HOW ARE YOU EVEN ALIVE

Holy fuck you're the stupidest person I've ever replied to.
I really fucking hope you're trolling.

https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=List_of_highest-grossing_media_franchises&oldid=1132246417

it's the same page, you fucking subhuman

>>279596470
>How convenient you leave out the part where the entire print industry globally is in collapse
good thing kimetsu helped against that. Heh? where did one piece help? never.

https://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2021-01-25/print-market-in-japan-decreases-only-1-percent-in-2020-partly-due-to-demon-slayer-boom/.168786

One Piece is "carrying" jump (not see >>279596438)

Kimetsu is carrying the industry (fact)

i would buy into what this opfag is saying if not for the fact that it hasnt been the best selling manga in years, despite all its accolades and worldwide popularity, and lifespan

God I love seeing one piece fags getting BTFO over and over
each time I orgasm
hope we get another kny soon

>>279596682
Feels great to be a KnYchad

>>279596632
Then the industry forgot that ever happen and Jump left KnY in the dust because guess what, it actually didn't do shit

>>279596768
>>279596768
You can thank Kimetsu for Toei getting its shit together to finally make OP anime look decent.

>>279596480
LMAO. Your dumbass just linked the Wikipedia permalink from January 2023 which proves EXACTLY what I said. That's the pre-'cleanup' version of the Wikipedia page, the one that actually included One Piece, Naruto, Yu-Gi-Oh!, per-stream revenue breakdowns, and detailed sourcing. You know, the version that was actually useful before it got gutted. So congrats, retard. You literally linked the source that matches the Visual Capitalist chart AND the UltimatePopCulture page. You just validated everything I said like the ‘retarded subhuman’ (see how it works?) you are.

Old Wikipedia revision was comprehensive and structured, the exact revision Visual Capitalist and UltimatePopCulture used as a base. It had:
>per-category breakdowns (games, merch, manga, box office, etc)
>full entries for OP, DB, YGO, etc (but other franchises like Naruto is missing)
>actual citations linking to Toei, Bandai Namco, Oricon, etc
Current Wikipedia version got nuked by overzealous editors who:
>removed OP, Naruto, and several major franchises
>merged or deleted revenue categories
>added "citation needed" on top of estimates
>left wildly outdated or lowballed totals like DB being worth a measly $9B
The UltimatePopCulture list literally preserves and continues tracking that old format, with better updating and more entries. It even links to corporate earnings reports. Meanwhile, Visual Capitalist's chart is based on that exact structure.

So you autistically screaming 'I-IT’S THE SAME PAGE” just proves that, yes, it was the better source before Wikipedia nerfed it.

You just debunked your own argument. Cry more, bitch.

>>279596651
Speaking of, how did OP not reclaim first in yearly sales by now? Its gettiing surpassed by 3 manga this year so far, one of which ended months ago at 1st.

>>279596682
>>279596764
lmao. Keep telling yourself that as you cry yourself to sleep, bitch. I dunked your crusty this entire thread and the last thread too.
>You posted a chart proving Demon Slayer needed anime CPR to sell.
>You misunderstood 'long tail sales' and thought you were smart.
>You claimed 1M unsold OP volumes with zero proof.
>And now you’re saying Shueisha ignores sales forecasts while they dominate publishing.
So again, thanks for the laughs, cuck.

>>279596845
Sure mentally ill kimetsufag, as if it didn't have sakuga before that

>>279593637
>lil Chihiro sells on par with Chihiro's fiancée
based

>>279596915
>He thinks only one person is shitting on him

>>279596632
>Kimetsu is carrying the industry
Torishima disagrees. And so does Watsuki. One Piece is single-handedly carrying Jump on its back and the entire industry too to the point where it hurts.

DS didn't contribute much if anything at all to the sales of WSJ. When you look at the 90s, Jump's weekly circulation was over 6.5 million when DB and Slam Dunk were running. DS could never improve Jump's circulation, not even a tiny bit, because the overwhelming majority of people bought DS in volumes but did not read Jump.

In fact, numbers dropped again in 2020 from 1.6 million to 1.5 million. So every once in a while, Shueisha re-releases Slam Dunk and it sells out.

Stay cucked, you cuck.

Reminder that Gear 5 never broke the internet.

>>279575559

>>279597035
one piece has always played second fiddle when it comes to shonen in the west. relatively unknown compared to naruto and bleach until they both ended, never reached co-worker discussion level general popularity like snk, opm or kny, and never broke the internet like ultra instinct, though they tried their best (and failed) to recreate that moment

>>279595883
Thanks. You just dunked on yourself again and the funniest part is that you don't even realize it. You think you brought receipts, but all you did was hand me the golden shovel to bury your cuck ass permanently.
>OP: 1.6% individual, 2.9% household
>Aired at 23:15 on Sunday
So yeah, same late-night timeslot as Demon Slayer now, which means you just admitted OP ran for 25 years in a graveyard Sunday morning slot, and only recently moved to DS's time and still hasn't dropped off the map.

And what are these ratings really saying? Everything else in that time slot still underperforms or hovers around 2-3%. Even Yaiba pulled 3.5% household in an earlier slot and nobody’s calling that the new king of anime. OP is transitioning from a legacy Sunday morning slot into the event-driven late-night block and it's still holding ground despite no movie tie-ins, no recap specials, and no finale hype.
>>279595917
Your dumbass posted this to flex DS's numbers and yet again, it backfires hilariously. Here's what it actually says:
>Demon Slayer Hashira Arc
>Aired May 12, 2024, 11:15 PM
>Average viewers: 14.2 million
>Total reach: 20.4 million
Cool, it did huge numbers. But wait, what’s right under it?
>Sazae-san (March 10)
>Average viewers: 9.28 million
>Total reach: 13.3 million
So you're bragging DS beat Sazae-san that night? Congrats, it took a season premiere, on a Sunday night, in a top block, from one of Japan's biggest studios, with four years of franchise buildup, to barely beat a weekly children's SOL show that's been airing since 1969. This isn't a flex, it's a reminder of how fragile DS's popularity actually is when it doesn’t have a full hype machine behind it. Also notice:
>all the other DS entries are recaps, reruns, specials, etc
These 'top 10' rankings? They're event-based, not weekly consistency like OP's Kanto metrics over years.

>>279597162
>snk, opm or kny
Why are your only examples series that were instantly forgotten
Imagine talking up "co-worker discussion level" as if these fucks don't hop from FOTM to FOTM

>>279597249
Saying they were instantly forgotten over and over isnt going to make it true pisstard.

Legendary thread
Op fag in shambles

>>279597458
None of those manga are relevant currently so they're very much forgotten you retarded coper

>>279597491
>citation needed

>>279597491
You're a fucking retard.

>>279597520
>>279597600
Feel free to point out their relevancy then copefag, I'll wait

OPfag won this thread

Here lies OP fag

>>279597637
https://x.com/kimetsu_off/status/1895788662815912268?t=VDqZkmRu_J3g4NBTbDq6oA&s=19

>>279597757
>march
>nobody talks about it anymore for hype
Instantly forgotten

>>279597637
https://youtu.be/Ss0gxiuCPKE?si=KbZq3nmU2Q-a4Ay6
Infinity Castle going to break records again coping fag

>>279597794
Cope

oda wont fuck you

>>279597809
Yes copefag, just like when infinity train broke records only for the hype to fall off immediately like the FOTMshit it is

>>279597757
Yeah? The anime is still on-going. Doesn't mean the manga is relevant anymore. The anime is keeping it on life support (that's why they're making 3 movies for 1 arc). And even the anime is starting to lose steam. You're still acting like you live in 2020 when JJK is the new hot topic anime just like how DS was the new hot topic anime in 2020. The last season wasn't even the most watched anime of its year, that award goes to MHA. It's not even the most popular anime in the world, that goes to JJK.

>>279597107
>up to vol 5
KEK

>>279597858
>He says this when season 2 and 3 broke the internet
Cope seethe and dilate

>>279597872
>b-but the manga
Keep coping

>>279597887
>IT BROKE THE INTERNET
>the internet collectively forgets instantly
FOTMshit is all KnY is

>>279597916
More coping

>>279597809
Good luck getting through Trump's tariffs first. Summer is also going to be packed, it's not like in 2020 where it benefitted hugely from an empty release lineup due to Covid delays and it running on theaters for half a year. You're delusional (though everyone can already knows that).
>>279597914
I know you're coping.

>>279597872
>That award goes to MHA
It goes to Solo Leveling actually
https://www.cbr.com/most-watched-2024-anime-series-streaming-ranked/

>>279597943
>can't refute kny having no longevity in discussion or hype
Keep boasting about breaking records when nobody will care not even a week later, FOTMshitter

>>279597989
>USA
A non factor, only needs Japan to break the records. USA is just icing

>>279598001
>n-nobody will care a week later
2019 flashbacks. Its been a FOTM for 5 years?

>>279597887
Still didn't win Guinness World Record for most popular anime in the world. That award goes to JJK. :)

MHA was also the most watched anime in the world last year and beat Demon Slayer, Frieren, Solo Leveling and One Piece. :)
>>279598020
Which only happened because it had a theatrical run for 6 months during pandemic and when the Coof ended, the next movies sold worse than the first movie. :)

Try living in 2025 and not 2020. :)

>>279598059
Yes nobody will care, KnY has the driest discussion out of any shonen and people immediately forget after a season is done. The movies are even shorter so you know how fast the hype for that evaporates.

>>279598059
>Its been a FOTM for 5 years?
Well, yeah. That's why it only appears once in a year and when the season ends, it disappears from people's consciousness. Literally FOTM.

>>279596935
>trying to equate KGB to Girls Meets Rock
>when that fanbase mocked KGB
lol.
She's called HATONO by the way.

kagurabachi won this thread