With how much everyone complains about official subs, how come fansubbing have all but died out?
>>279594347 (OP)Fansubbing is a lot of work and you get paid nothing for it. Fuck that.
>>279594347 (OP)it's because only a small minorty of people even watch subs in the first place
>>279594347 (OP)I fansubbed a movie and got like 3 responses, and some asshole telling me to stop posting. All the stuff people want to see is already subbed, and all the horriblesubbed stuff gets watched week 1 and put onto >streaming sites, while your fansubs get ignored by everyone and are really only available on nyaa for the hardcore audience, who is an extreme minority of people who'll nitpick your subs anyways
>>279594347 (OP)Because speed>accuracy in subs.
People will always flock to the first download available no matter what.
Even back in the day with meme subs, they could be complete shit, but they were what most people downloaded.
>>279594540Anime is not niche in any sense of the word but a ton of people watching it can't speak Japanese. You're insane if you think a minority of viewers watch subs.
>>279594687I think he's saying that the majority of normalfags watch dubs
>>279594729Also delusional in this day and age.
>>279594347 (OP)As a retard who complained about fansubs 20+ years ago, I squeal with delight whenever a show gets fansubs these days, especially when they're memesubs.
>>279594587>I fansubbed a movie and got like 3 responsesThat's what you get for liking shit movies.
>>279594729People keep saying this, but I've never met anyone who admitted to watching dubs.
>>279594758The last time we got a trollsub was Commie like 10 years ago
>>279594758In college, half the guys in the anime club watched dubs and the other half were apathetic to it. Now I'm working and half the guys here watch dubs too, but at least there's a couple sub-watchers who berate them for watching dubs. Dubfags are pretty common
>>279594758That's because you don't talk to real people instead of shitposting online.
>>279594830Pon no Michi came out last year, that got memesubbed because no western distributor picked it up
>>279594840Don't take this personally, but are you American, and have you considered migrating?
>>279594987I don't understand your question, everyone in the world is American.
>>279594987yeah, but I'm going to japan, the land of my people
>>279594887Worth a watch? I don't play mahjong.
>>279594347 (OP)A lot of them were hired by crunchyshit
>>279595062It's only worth a watch (memesubbed, of course) as long as you don't know what the hell a mahjong is.
>>279595062fuck no, the show sucks, it spends more time being an advertisement for Onomichi than being about Mahjong, the subs carry the show hard. If you really want something about mahjong then just watch Akagi or Saki like everyone else, otherwise just don't even bother
>>279595096That doesn't make sense. Everyone said fansubs were good, but now that they're hired by Crunchyroll, the subs aren't good anymore?
>>279595062How people watched that show with the chink subs and said it was AOTY is beyond me
>>279595123>it spends more time being an advertisement for OnomichiExcept it only shows Onomichi for like half an episode because the rest takes place in a featureless room with a broken mahjong table.
Because they're too fucking slow.
>b-but it le takes time to put out quality subs
No it fucking doesn't If you're serious and you have a good team it takes like a few hours.
>>279595124Crunchy was REALLY bad back then, now it's just bad. Also they have to work fast and I bet using shit software so no they get time for signs or lyrics.
>>279595124That's pretty common actually. Just look at something like say Skyrim compared to that new shit game they made. Mostly the same employees, but different direction and leadership and suddenly its full ass.
>>279594347 (OP)>Hetshit spinoffYikes
>>279595233>different directionYou're translating from Japanese to English, that's it.
>>279595187>need 3 guys to coordinate timing, typesetting, and translating>or you can just download from crunchyroll who already translated it all a week ago and released it todaynot a lot of return on investment here
>>279595274Yeah and now you have a deadline and 50 other things to translate too, now stop fussing over that bullshit and just get it finished with a half assed job.
>>279594830We also got some trollsubs for tohai and I think Nokotan
>>279595205sometimes they'll do signs and have color coding in certain scenes, but there's almost no lyrics anymore
>>279595324Touhai and Nokotan were pretty minor changes from the actual script
>>279595324>trollsubs for tohaithose were just regular subs with some effort put into the effects
>>279595361They're right though, if you're going to put worse subs on a better video, what's the point? Yeah, the guy complaining is too lazy to OCR the hardsubs and do it but it would likely take less time than doing the subs again from scratch poorly. Or alternatively, just doing it from scratch with the old script.
>>279595187>No it fucking doesn't If you're serious and you have a good team it takes like a few hours.Myth: bigger team = faster subs.
Reality: more cooks = spoiled broth and delayed subs and unsatisfied customers who don't even pay you.
>>279595062Half of /mjg/ hates them vehemently, the other half love them
>>279595509Thanks, I lost the hard drive I saved that on.
>>279594347 (OP)people learned japanese on the side for their hobby while you did fucking nothing with your life
>>279595509How many of these are still around?
Only episode of Pon no Michi I watched was episode 8 because of the trollsub, the anime is really bad but that ED was great
>>279595567Don't worry, they'll have to learn Chinese very soon at this rate
>>279594347 (OP)Why is she pogging
>>279595881What does that mean
>>279595572herkz is still wearing Commie's skin suit.
Doki and Chihiro still release stuff once in a blue moon.
I'd like to believe some of the retards I interact with here are the old guard being ironic, but who knows?
>>279595911TN: pogging is pegging up the wrong hole.
>>279595954Is Pon no Michi really that good?
>>279596194No, but bad things are fun.
>>279594587>>279594840Anime fell to the normalfags many, many years ago. Now with both dubs and "official" subs, everything is run and processed by Redditors and Twitter leftists who deliberately mistranslate everything to sound PC or insert unfunny meme humor having nothing to do with the source material. Japan itself has been totally swallowed by the commodification of its own medium over many years so memesubfags are not missing much as is.
>>279594758>People keep saying this, but I've never met anyone who admitted to watching dubsI keep seeing them, and they're almost all Zoomers.
>>279595877I've considered it before but China's actually on a downward cultural trend in the grand scheme of things. They made some good movies in the 80s and 90s, but even then they mostly played second fiddle to Hong Kong. Everything anime-related of theirs I've seen has been an unrecognizably soulless cashgrab, and their writing is among the worst in the world. Nowadays, Japan's sloppiest narou-kei is China's norm. Worst of all, learning Chinese means associating with Chinese people.
>>279594347 (OP)First post and third post are the main reasons. The amount of work is compounded even more if you aren't skilled in any aspect of it making the barrier of entry extremely high. If you are putting in genuine effort and you only have moderate Japanese skills and you haven't been doing subtitles for like a year or 2, you will probably spend 20 hours subbing 1 episode. I guess if you halfassed it and just typed whatever you could of course do it in a couple hours but then your subs are just as bad as official, though that tends to be the case for most of the fansub groups left funnily enough. Then you will upload it, get like 20 downloads and your first and only response is going to be someone crying that you did one thing (subjectively) wrong. Then you will think about all the anime you could have watched in 20 hours in Japanese instead of making subs all for some random faggot to shit on you for using the wrong font and you will never sub episode 2 unless your a total masochist.
>>279596405>Japan itself has been totally swallowed by the commodification of its own medium over many yearsSounds a bit ego-stroking to me. /a/ has tried and completely and UTTERLY (while also being OBSESSED and SEETHING constantly) failed to turn anime into its dick-stroking slut maid with muh "ooougghhh cunny cunny ouugh" for what, 20 years now? Why the fuck would the infinitely more cattle-like and unimaginative Redditors and troons be able to do more harm than le final boss of the internet, hacker known as 4chan? Anime has a future, it's just not a future that cares about you as much as you care about yourself. You have continually failed to make that something I pity you for, I am the future of everything you love and it's not a responsibility to envy but you'll still hate me for it. Pathetic. 20 years of
>you need to be identical to me to watch anime but also anime is just pornfor nothing and you think a bad dub killed it? lmao.
>>279596734What you're saying is that everyone is too incompetent, lazy and sensitive to make fansubs.
>>279596885I don't know if it is intentional, but your behavior represents exactly who nobody wants to make fansubs for, but yet they are the people that demand fansubs the most.
>>279596947People who state the truth? As others have indicated, if you have an even remotely competent few people to do the timing, script, etc., you can push out an episode pretty quickly in quality that far surpasses official subtitles. Anyone that cries because some faggot on Nyaa said "b-b-but you shouldn't use honorifics" is a bitch.
>>279596869Crunchyroll is that way, Jew.
>>279594887The Pon no Michi fansubs are funny because they changed the script entirely but got all the references right, even to weird stuff that isnโt from anime or manga.
>>279596997You being mad doesn't make your non-argument the truth. You are seeing a point that only exist in the head of an individual that is completely mad with greed. Nobody is actually busting out subtitles in a couple hours unless they halfass it to oblivion anon, and nobody is beholden by your wants. The idea that people who will not mindleslly produce subtitles for you are lazy is completely absurd, because you are all the things you just said if that is the case.
Nearly everything gets released in some form as a simulcast so demand isn't there and a lot of the old farts aged out. Family, jobs etc. Unless anime streaming magically collapses and things go back to never being released outside Japan I don't see it coming back. At most the ever increasing number of streaming services will just drive people to piracy (of the streaming variety, not the IRC/torrent one), not subbing.
>>279597292You're already wrong by virtue of the fact that people made competent speedsubs in the past. I'm not arguing about whether or not people WANT to do it, just that if you're going to do it, do it right. You're butthurt that the target audience for fansubs are people that pirate anime, why would the impact of the work involved ever be a factor to them?
>>279597422Man I fucking hate accidentally engaging with low IQs
>>279597495Then get off 4chan.
>>279597509ok maybe it was worth it for that post, good one
When are we going to get more trollsubs
I'm a translator and I enjoy translating so I'm always on the lookout for a show to sub but it's rare for there to be a show that
>isn't getting simulcast in English
>isn't getting subbed by someone else
>has some other subs or captions available to use as a base for sub timing because I'm not autistic enough for that shit at all
>interests me
As an N1 it usually takes me about 6-8 hours to translate (by ear) an episode of anime with about 400 lines, longer if I have to do rudimentary styling or typesetting which I'm not very good at. Maybe I could pump it out faster if I just put less effort into maintaining character voice or making it read smoothly in English but at that point you might as well just MTL it, which is very common for shows that don't get simulcast in English but do in other languages
Oh, and fuck the cartel for closing registrations on Nyaa so no one can upload anything
>>279597848Never, too much effort. They also require a sense of humor, so if you donโt have that, youโll either get no one downloading your subs or bashing them.
>>279598231And yet all of pon no michi got subbed despite that happening
>>279594347 (OP)Sex with pai.That is all.
>>279598391She's the only thing this show is remembered for.
>>279594347 (OP)There's still a vestigial fansubbing scene around, particularly for shows that didn't get licensed, but the bottom line for over a decade now is that fansubbers can no longer compete with the official licensors on speed or video quality, and depending on how much the translator cares, Crunchyroll can even do typesetting that's not far removed from what fansubbers can do. I miss the old days too, but I can see why most people just don't bother with it anymore.
>>279596869don't care, translate it literally
>>279599648Crunchyroll almost never does any sort of typesetting, what are you talking about?
>>279595250What's the original?
>>279600780The anime is the original. Youโre responding to a yurischizo
>>279594347 (OP)Its been years guys, if you have been watching subbed for over 10 years you should have literally just learned Japanese. That's what I did..
>>279600831>just learn Japanese>and then keep posting on 4chan /a/, conversing with the majority of people that exclusively consume translationsGood use of your time.
>>279600946https://nyaa.si/view/1954490
>>279600871ใฆใใใฎ้ ญใฏใใใใผใปใใใใ๏ผ
>>279600871Remember in Isekai Ojisan when everyone is impressed that Uncle knows how to read?
Really.
It's just taken as a given that obviously no one can read all these obscure things in this antiquated useless garbage language.
>>279600798sup anti prick kun
>>279594587>I fansubbed a movie and got like 3 responses, and some asshole telling me to stop postingEither because you were using shit encoding methods or your subs fucking sucks. Nobody outright tells you to stop without reason unless you really were really shit at it. Now post examples.
>>279601037Youโre missing the point. Why bother communicating with people that arenโt capable of understanding the intention behind the work when you could be speaking to people that do?
>>279594587Post the subs, Iโll be the judge of that.
>>279601660Oh man, it's amazing how we have all seen all these anime without a single thing being communicated to us, astonishing.
>Why bother communicating with people that arenโt capable of understanding the intention behind the workExactly!
Just like in Isekai Ojisan, we see that Japanese people are simply not capable of understanding their entire language. Uncle could read the Japanese, his two other Japanese friends could not.
>show is only remembered because of subs
Why donโt you trollsub a good anime?
>>279601742>without a single thing being communicated to usWithout a single thing being correctly communicated, you mean
>>279601788>I couldn't understandThat must happen to you quite often, my condolences.
>>279601802Itโs the fate of all non-Japanese speakers consuming Japanese media, unfortunate but true
I wish we had more trollsubs for shit shows, especially because there are fewer good shows these days
I enjoyed the meme subs, they were fun.
>>279597918And what doesn't get licensed these days is usually either extremely niche or low quality. I thought about doing Miru: Watashi no Mirai but the show is like a 4/10 at best and life is too short to bother wasting my time on it.
>>279597918>Oh, and fuck the cartel for closing registrations on Nyaa so no one can upload anythingWhy not go for Anidex?
>>279601682https://nyaa.si/view/1974780
the movie itself sucks
>>279602288???????? almost all subs are trollsubs you fuckin retard
>>279597278they were subbed with care and compassion
>>279602449anidex's registration is also closed, I sent them an email 2 weeks ago and nobody has gotten back to me
>>279602485do you know what /vip/posting means?
>>279602775Tokyo Toshokan has open registration apparently, anidex isn't even being used as a source anymore on the mirror site I use.
>>279602332Slightly overshot quads
>>279602815yeah it means you need to go the fuck back to /vip/ and shut your bitch ass up faggot nigger
>>279603126no, it refers to 2chan's vip board, they would make high quality shitposts in the form of fangames and animations
I want high quality shitpost trollsubs in the same vein as /vip/posting
>>279603126>>279603186damn he walked right into that one
newfag confirmed, back to lurking bud
>>279603326keep digging newfag
>>279603392Only a newfag would even bother trying this, everyone else knows how easy these things are to edit.
>>279603427only a newfag would worry about whether someone is going out of their way to troll them further when they already made an ass of themselves once
>>279603289I was trying to be nice to him
>>279603454you literally gave him an easy one and he fumbled it so badly, what a fucking embarrassment
>>279603449independent party here, you lost this one
>>279603481hey, I was there once too, sometimes we just need the encouragement to better ourselves
>>279594347 (OP)I miss the old times.
>>279603483go on, explain why the newfag who doesn't even know what /vip/ is "won" anything
genuinely interested, anon
>>279603392>>279603449holy kek you got baited by someone that wasn't even me xDxD
alright, would you idiots just chill out already, it's not even that important, forget I said anything about /vip/
is this a kino concession?
>>279603536this doesn't even make sense, even if it was someone else the guy still made a fool of himself by not even knowing about /vip/
>>279603580how much does the average anon even know about 2chan?
>>279603580>telling someone to go back to /vip/ means they don't know what /vip/ is.stupid nigger
leave it to the newfag to accuse samefag when he's clearly a newfag that doesn't know shit, babby's first deflection
Like I said, only a newfag would even bother to try that.
>>279603611the average anon is a newfag retard that needs to get off my fucking board
>>279603616try to follow the conversation, we're talking about /vip/posting, and what that term means "go back to vip" doesn't make sense in context
it's clear he doesn't know what /vip/posting is, so he resorts to some stock phrase he learned this summer
>>279603713it makes plenty sense if your being told to fuck off for being a faggot bitch :3
so how about them subs, huh
>>279603817remember to discipline your subs
>>279603808>your being told>:3go back
>>279603840hey you, black eyes are NOT allowed, you need to beat them in places people WON'T see dumbass
>>279603877:3 >.< T.T
no u ;) xD
>newfag btfos himself about /vip/ of all things
>spergs out for like 10 posts
damn spergo nice melty
the absolute state of this board
anyway, in my opinion fansubbing died because there's hardly anything worth subbing anyway, there's maybe one good show a season if that
fansubbing requires dedication on some level, and who wants to be dedicated to serving sloppa
>>279604094the two most recent mahjong shows both got fansubbed, so I'm going assume that if another show comes out and it's about mahjong then it'll probably need to be fansubbed as well
>>279604127can the crunchyroll staff really be expected to spot a reference to Akagi (2005) in their anime?
even that is clearly too much for them, is mahjong the final fansub frontier?
>>279594540This is true. We don't want people to know this though and secretly laugh at them for watching subs.
>>279602449No one uses Anidex and last I checked the site was slow as fuck and kept shitting itself
>>279602929TT is an indexer, not a tracker, you still need somewhere to upload the torrent (and I doubt many people still use TT these days anyway)
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>>279604763>TT : Submit New Torrent - You can only submit 10 (ten) torrents per hour, if you are logged in, you can submit up to 50 (fifty) per hour. You currently have used: 0.Mirrors only scrape from places that are uploading new torrents, obviously.
And they put out about 1/3 to 1/2 of all torrents currently, see pic.
>>279604127One of them got fansubbed, the other is a trollsub. Not the same thing.
I watched this anime on a streaming site a few months back and they had what I assume are the trollsubs. Sub situation for this show just have been pretty dire for that to happen.
>>279603840>discussion about subs>posts an unrelated image macroretard post
>>279602481This movie was fucking garbage, yes. That said, the subs from what I can see arenโt great either. Youโre upset because people nitpick things that anyone who spends more than 5 minutes subbing is aware of and would bother to fix. You should especially expect that for a movie like this, where the target audience is already as small as possible (CG, anime about fucking rowing, the girls arenโt cute, etc.).
>>279608641>dumb woman is mad
>>279594587This is going to be your experience providing any service for free or below market rate. Most guys who comment on pirate sites are lazy broke guys from India who scream if you don't cut down on 5 MB from a 1 GB file with the heckin optimal encoding because they're third worlders watching on a samsung phone from 2012. Half the torrents they upload have fucking dogshit audio.
>>279608824Most people complaining donโt have anything uploaded. Youโre getting mad at leeches.
>>279608778A woman wouldnโt have the intelligence to differentiate between an image macro or a subtitled image
>>279595250>CG yurislop imageYikes
>>279594347 (OP)Actual real anime culture is dead and buried ever since we stopped being a real community in the West.
We let in people who love the "hype moments" but who don't give a damn about Bishoujo culture.
Meanwhile in Japan it's not much better Akihabara is a ghost town "duty free" hellhole
All fanmade content has ceased, pretty much, people are only in it for the money
>>279609170Yeah I heard that Akihabara got stripped.
>>279595025i miss good abridged content
>>279600871There's plenty of users that know Japanese.
There's no Japanese site that works like 4chan. You might think 2chan is comparable since 4chan copied them but the posting culture is extremely different.
>>279609192There are still fansubbers alive now that arenโt paid anything. Thereโs a few that sub for fuck all but most get nothing.
>>279609257Thereโs plenty of people that know Japanese on 4chan but youโre still interacting with a majority of EOPs that use translations and fansubs for their understanding of the media discussed here. Itโs a pointless complaint to say โwhy havenโt you learned Japanese?โ when youโre posting on a board under that premise. Yeah, itโs functionally useful for your hobby but it has no bearing whatsoever on the discussion unless youโre conversing with another person that already knows Japanese.
>>279594347 (OP)>yurislop has bad subsNothing of value was lost
>>279609209The Abridged stuff anons actually like was of its time. People still make Abridged content but itโs mostly only consumed by zoomers.
>>279594347 (OP)Because most people prefer convenience and the complaining is from a vocal minority of enthusiasts who (try to) have standards.
Just because a majority doesn't care, doesn't mean the minority is wrong to complain about it.
>>279609976>enthusiasts>passionlol, lmao
>>279607651well it wasn't subbed by an official licensor, that's for certain
>>279594347 (OP)Fansubs existed out of necessity. It wasn't because it was fun or more accurate, it was because there was no other option. Big movies would take years to get released in the West, and more obscure shows wouldn't get a release at all. You were basically shit out of luck until some guy decided to translate it for you. And a lot of the time the fansubs were garbage. Most fansubs were not high accuracy high effort typeset masterpieces. Many were half-assed by people with a terrible grasp of Japanese.
These days most anything worth watching gets a timely official translation. The necessity is no longer there.
>>279610644Except it was? B-Global and Animation Digital Network both subtitled it.
>>279609582It's a valid response to people complaining about translations.
>>279611014B-global was MTL, and ADN didn't even release till it was halfway done. That's the whole reason why anon made subs in the first place
>>279611159It wasnโt subbed by anon either, since itโs not a proper translation. NovaWorks is the only proper translation and that ended at episode 4.
>>279594540dub only normalfags only watch shounen.
>>279611152Yes, still useless when youโre talking to people that use those translations despite their complaints. You know better, they donโt but youโre still choosing to engage with them.
>>279611619Then they shouldn't complain in the first place.
>>279611692Your'e on 4chan, pal. Doesn't matter what board, that's what people are going to do.
>download the trollsubs
>there's an episode where the ED is some brownoid language
>it's subtitled
Did they use google translate
>>279612120Spanish speakers make up a majority of anime viewers these days
>>279611750The Chinese make some pretty good girls
>>279612562Watching exclusively Dragon Ball
>>279610193Heโs right though. Most people donโt watch anime or watch Netflix dubs.
>>279613846Isn't Netflix anime all subbed?
>>279594347 (OP)The only ones that keep doing fansubs are the ones subbing shows for little girls and boys.
>>279614655netflix defaults to the dub track and you have to reload the entire page to watch the sub
>>279614693Pon no Michi was a show for 80 year old men
>>279614772Don't you have preferences on audio and subtitle languages and can tell them you want the original?
>>279613217That one is Japanese though.
>>279614797Same demographic really, I found many people from little girls threads there.
>>279614850netflix doesn't have any options like that because of some retarded "scientific studies" that claim giving people too many options will inflict "analysis paralysis" in them and they'll stop using your product because they think it's too complicated. I haven't used netflix recently so maybe they changed it, but it disgusted me how little options the website had and how poorly it ran with subtitles forcing a page reload to even work properly. At least you can alter subtitle size and outline
>>279614935How many people use the website instead of the dedicated viewer software?
>>279614978There's no way in hell netflix's console app or a smart tv firestick or whatever has any more options than the website
Also, what the fuck am I looking at here?
>>279615054That's how I remember it. Unfortunately I can't check it since I only used it via a shared account.
>>279615054You can play mobile games on Netflix? Does it have gacha?
>>279612120>he doesn't know
>>279612120Why bother translating when you can just make your own story.
>>279615944Every ED is replaced.
>>279602481This movie was awful.
I love Netflix multi subs rips. They always have jap subs so I can improve my jap
>>279616886But Netflix subtitles are already provably wrong in a language you understand. Why would you trust them in a language you don't?
>>279617518Because you can compare them to what you hear?
>>279617554Except how does it improve your Japanese if you can't tell when it's wrong outside of the most basic instances?
>>279617518Both dub and subs come from the same source. You can spot some minor differences. Even better when you can compare it to the manga
>>279617987Because you've got visual context that also has to fit.
What situations have you encountered where the closed captions misrepresented the audio while still making sense?
>>279618157Most Netflix subs do exactly that. They misrepresent the audio because they rephrase how a character speaks.
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>>279612120Wtf, what language is that?
>>279618339Hindi, Japanese, English
hyo
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>>279618459>Japanese, EnglishNo shit?
>>279618650Even with the MTL subs?
>>279618202Then you'll realize that by comparing the subs to what you hear.
>>279618769If you're saying "to improve my Japanese", that indicates you don't have sufficient capacity to know whether the subtitles are wrong compared to what's being said. Unless your ability to speak Japanese or read Japanese outweighs the other.
>>279618797You have no clue what you're talking about.
Have you tried watching some English movie with English closed captions? It's rather obvious when they don't line up. It's not like watching a dub with subs and trying to figure out which version is correct.
He likely already can read Japanese fairly well and simply wants to get faster at it and improve listening comprehension.
>>279594347 (OP)I want to be the sex slave of every Pon no Michi girl
>>279618961>Have you tried watching a movie in a language you have mastery of, with subtitles in a language you have mastery of?Actual retard post.
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>>279594347 (OP)All the fansubbers moved on to vtumors
>>279619552Everyone moved on to vtubers.
>>279619292This picture gets me effortlessly aroused every time
>>279613846Why the fuck are we bringing up people who don't watch anime? And I guarantee you for every casualfag that watches N*tflix dubs there's 2 basement dwellers in shithole countries watching pirated subs instead
>>279619595I don't see why you are bringing up nonhumans in this discussion.
>>279595361I don't understand why you would willingly put out an inferior product. I'm 100% with Marche there.
Subs are because you don't understand the language. If subs are lacking parts of the script it's next to worthless; and he was even polite about it.
>>279619267He's right, the english spoken in a film is sometimes different from the english subtitles (I watch movies with my half-deaf dad). Most lines are correct, but every once in a while something will be slightly off. Usually each line has the exact same meaning but the actors will add extra transition words to improve the flow of each sentences, or reverse the order of a list of nouns for no apparent reason, or use synonyms, or add extra reactions to another character's line that isn't in the subtitle script.
>>279619835Thatโs my point, retard. If you have mastery over the language, itโs not difficult to detect those differences. If you donโt, then youโre intuiting at best (which is contingent on your level of skill in the language to begin with) and guessing at worst.
>>279619835Yeah that was always weird to me.
There's no translation going on yet scripts were almost always different in subs.
modern cr subs might as well be troll subs at this point
>>279620215>character says something using slang>translator localizes it with the same slangWhat's the problem? It would be unrecognizable otherwise. It's the same as when characters talk about social media interactions,, the literal translation is impossible to understand intuitively.
>Pon no Michi gets fansubbed
>Ura Rate Touhai gets fansubbed
>Princess Orchestra gets fansubbed
Why donโt fags sub something actually good?
>>279619973An N3 can understand an inconsistency between spoken and script japanese pretty easily
You don't need mastery of japanese to do such a thing
>>279620635normalfags get first dibs on all the good stuff, and they heavily outnumber anons
>>279594587I like film more than television and most of the middle of the road quality anime films are never subbed ever.
>>279620776Then you're benefiting from them not getting subs, since you only get to watch the good stuff.
>>279621538that's an absurd perspective
>>279619680Even the most neanderthal looking subsaharan nigger is still more closely related to humans than dub watchers
>>279620649>N3Delusional cope lol
>>279622227Are you deaf or something? Japanese is piss easy to comprehend, it's only got 50 sounds, compared to English's 10,000 syllables it's pretty fucking simple to listen to
>>279622718I can see why youโre only N3
>>279622846actually I'm N2 because I used anime to learn Japanese when I was N3
>>279594758>I've never met anyone who admitted to watching dubsI don't watch anime that isn't dubbed. Watching anything in a language that isn't English just feels like subhuman behavior. There's one language that matters, if you can't use it for your product then it must not matter. Simple as.
>>279623036Peak burger behavior.
>>279623911You are not jealous are you?
>>279623911>he says, while posting in that language
>>279623911Every knee will bend
>>279594347 (OP)If you want unfunny trollsubs, watch Princess Session Orchestra. Godawful attempt at recreating Commie.
>>279609192This. People that used to fansub are mostly now just grifters.
>>279619292I WAS IN THE POOL
>>279596869>WORDS WORDS WORDS WORDSTL;DR
>>279594347 (OP)Oh I get the joke
>>279594347 (OP)Fansubbers are grifters and have positioned to saying the CR script is good enough in order to justify not making subs themselves
>>279601219You're retarded right? Nyaa is full of anti fun boomers who chimp out over minor things like honorifics
>>279626950You know you donโt have to make excuses to not make fansubs, right? You just donโt sub it.
>>279606039Context check.
>>279624098That image is actually kind of upsetting...
>>279627570Rousing the troops for combat with the war drums.
Been watching through Deltora Quest fan subs. Taken them awhile to do it all, and they still have the final episode to do. Read the books when I was young, and besides QUALITY, the anime is a good fantasy adventure. The fan subs themselves are kind of interesting. So Deltora was originally an English book series from Australia. The anime adaptation made some weird changes to some names like Doom is called Joker in the anime. The fan subs went with original book names and has TL notes for that. I donโt dislike it though. Like there are times English localizers change names in Japanese video games and people prefer the original Japanese names. Kind of the same thing.
The Japanese hated Pon no Michi.
>>279628116little japanese girls liked it thoughbeit
>>279628116I don't the japanese even watched the show
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>>279595911Pog face
The Nashiko is pogging
>>279629006>Name is NASHIko>has oppaiExplain this
>>279627796That sounds like the most obnoxious shit ever unless you're already way too familiar with the books.
>>279619986It's because the subtitles are usually just based on the written script rather than some autist sitting there transcribing every single line from the audio.
>>279594587I subbed four movies in the past two years and no one complained. Skill issue.
>>279628116They were right to hate it. It's shit.
>>279628116So does /a/ outside of two or three autists. /mjg/ hates it too, as do websites outside of 4chan. And they had the gall to end on a S2 teaser. Insane.
>>279631206Sounds like a lot of people are vocal...and unhappy...
>>279629006Why do I get a boner when she makes this face?
>>279594840Imagine having unironic sub vs dub arguments at work.
>>279631597Imagine losing the argument to dubfags.
>>279629073>NASHIkoNashi=non existent (or something like that)
>ko= used to name something littleIsnยดt the name Implying there is nothing small there?
>>279624098IT reminds me of that AI image of the UN trying to make a jeet poo in the loo by force.
>>279633247>>279629073You dumb fucks, the joke is that she has no yaku, which is what they say multiple times throughout the show.
>>279631597hey, I hide my powerlevel, it's everyone else arguing around me
>>279634657What the fuck is yaku?
I have visited these threads for a year for a quick pump on the ol' hose, do you mean to tell me I actually have to watch the anime and not tug it to the screenies?
>>279625033At least there's OrcheriAnon's subs now too. I miss WakuTomete's typesetting, but I don't miss the Reddit/Tumblr syntax they make every character speak with, and that's ultimately more important.
Commie was godawful too for the same reasons, though, so WakuTomete have in fact successfully recreated them.
>>279635147Commie was actually funny, so no.
>>279635147>WakuTomete subber damage controlKill yourself
>>279635112it's like poker hands, two pair, triplet, full straight, royal flush, etc.
>>279594347 (OP)Seems fine to me
Checked Lazarus at a glance and there's commie, varyg, MnS-BBF(italian) subs
How many fansubs per series do you need?
>>279635157commie was only sometimes funny
>>279602403I've been watching Miru as it gets subbed and I don't see what's so terrible about it. It's not a 1000/10 masterpiece or anything, but it's fine. Then again, I'm not a plotfag who can't handle anything episodic.
>>279635170How am I "damage controlling" for them by complaining about their subs and not watching them anymore?
>>279635228I don't know how to play poker.
>>279635299Better than never funny.
>>279635657Neither could the characters in this show
>>279635244Lazarus is only getting so many because it was hyped up as the next Cowboy Bebop.
>>279635657Mahjong is pretty basic. That anyone has difficulty with it is hard to believe.
>>279630743Not really because itโs only a few side characters that got their name changed. Either way Iโm just glad itโs finally translated, the dub was awful and the anime itself is pretty fun. Itโs refreshing watching a genuine fantasy adventure after a decade of isekei fantasy
>>279638673Wrong thread, koitus