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>"I"m going to change the system from the inside!!!"
>does nothing to change the system
Was he a retard?

That's the point
He can't

>>279615481
So lelouch was right?

>>279615554
Lelouch was right about Suzaku being unable to change the system from within and wrong about other things.

>>279615838
>wrong about other things.
Like what

>>279615461 (OP)
>joins lelouch after he takes control
>never technically left the system
>successfully implements his goals
>hands less dirty than anyone else
I'm thinking he was right, although Lelouch was more right. Also inb4 anyone says he didn't do anything, Lelouch's plan wouldn't have succeeded without him.

>>279615461 (OP)
Yes. But so is almost everyone else so it works out well enough

>>279615877
his master plan of being a fall guy for one

>>279616995
I mean realistically it probably only would've temporarily worked, but depending on how bad of a dictator he was, he probably ensured peace for a full century minimum or so. We can observe more or less the same with ww2 irl although it's obviously not as one sided

>>279615461 (OP)
he should have mostly peaceful protested

>>279617979
kek that's basically what lelouch did

>>279616308
That might be true but you know... He can really spin a good argument for himself.
https://youtu.be/mmKtJuti5Vs

>>279615877
Not ending as emperor with a harem

>>279615461 (OP)
Yes, because systems cannot be changed meaningfully from within. Trying to change things from within just assimilates you.

>>279619644
>Not ending as emperor with a harem
Ahem

>>279615461 (OP)
Peaceful change is slow, as opposed to Lelouch's radical and violent change. The anime only took place over the course of like a year or two and the black knights made things harder for him by shaking things up so dramatically. So we never got to see if he would have been successful or not.

Suzaku's plan would have been to slowly gain political influence and then use it to benefit the Japanese. Given how much he accomplished in the short time frame of the anime, he actually did pretty well. He managed to move pretty far up the ladder and gained a shit ton of influence amongst one of the members of the royal family.

>>279616632
yeah all it took was Lelouch killing himself. all done by Suzaku btw.

>>279620459
>He managed to move pretty far up the ladder and gained a shit ton of influence amongst one of the members of the royal family
And what did he do with it? Absolutely nothing lmfao

Suzaku couldn't change the system peacefully. Charles' speech at Clovis' funeral is the deeply rooted ideology of Brittania and can't be overturnered by one exception. It has be gutted like a pig. Moving up the ranks and acquiring his own fiefdom full of people who hate him for being a collaborater wouldn't mean anything. And all the while he was subjecting other nations to Britannia's rule. Seriously, Suzaku was arguably the single most despised person on Earth until maybe Lelouch did his evil emperor shtick, and even then he was easily number two. But by then, he had his epiphany and put aside his feelings and hangups and do what's necessarily to create a better world.

>>279619643
Spinning's a neat trick.

>>279620459
>So we never got to see if he would have been successful or not.
Given Charles' plan was near fruition, they would have been tanged if not for the Black Knights.

>>279615554
they were both wrong about many things and only managed change when they worked together and threw away everything else

>>279615877
going vocal with hypotheticals at a critical moment when he already knew his geass was acting up

>>279622478
Still filtered?

I'm thankful to Code Geass for inspiring some of Tales of Vesperia.
I really like this kind of character dynamic like the one between Lelouch and Suzaku.

>>279622500
nah, distilling unfiltered

>>279615461 (OP)
>>279615481
>>279615554
Hoppe is right.

>>279622518
Is this for real? I suppose the timing lines up somewhat but they're really such different characters. Yuri is certainly no Lelouche.

>>279616632
>hands less dirty than anyone else
What was the Freyja casualty count again?

>>279623056
They're not direct copies no, but their relationship is entirely centered around justice and the vague outline is very much inspired. Flynn works from within the empire to change things, getting promotions from being a lapdog, and Yuri is enacting his own personal sense of vigilante justice.
Graces had the Geass costumes too so I'm certain it was on purpose.
Too bad we didn't get any of the licensed costumes in any english version.

He's a slut.

>>279623080
>Freyja casualty count
that's blood on the lesbian's hands

>>279622518
>pic
How, /a/?

>>279615461 (OP)
Easily the most annoying faggot in all of anime

>>279616308
Why is it so apparent that a retarded Lelouchfag made this

>>279615461 (OP)
The system solely existed for the purpose of enacting not-Instrumentality. Charles didn't believe any of the shit he spouted and didn't care if people died because he could talk to the dead and was going to make everyone become one being at the end.
And if you want to be technical, Suzaku did technically change the system from the inside by helping with a coup and getting Lelouch on the throne.

>>279621577
>Absolutely nothing lmfao
Started the SAZ with Euphie and the main reason why it was initially so successful was because of his involvement but ya know Lelouch fucked it up its why when he tried a second time in R2 it wasn't nearly as successful for obvious reasons.

>>279622409
Charles plan needed CC to work retard and he didn't give a shit about anything other than Raganrok at that point he was entirely disconnected with the outside world after a point and was mainly obsessed with getting CC

>>279615461 (OP)
>does nothing to change the system
>Becomes the first Japanese Knight in the Britannian Army
>His influence changes Britannia's standings in Area 11
>In fact he had gotten so popular among Elevens that Diethard tried to get Kallen to kill him because the BK would lose support

Really the problem is that the show never gives a substantial assessment to the possibility of his method working, we get some form of it during Leloiuch's reign as Emperor at the end of R2, because SAZ was suppose to be the first step that never came to fruition and his focus was entirely on capturing Lelouch in R2. The show makes it clear that Suzaku's reason for his actions was immense guilt and not wanting to make the same mistake as well but since Geass has a primary audience of retarded teenagers and unironic self insert fags who make shit like this >>279616308 it goes over their heads.

>>279615461 (OP)
He's literally me

>>279615461 (OP)
If he became Knight of One he could take over Area 11 and revert it to Japan. He was well on the path to doing this.

>>279623847
The system predates Charles. He merely adapted and took advantage of it while planning to render it moot.

>>279615461 (OP)
The story takes place in like the span of a year. For a random high school kid to acquire enough political influence to make dramatic changes to the system would take decades. The reason why the minimum age to become "president" in most countries is at least 30 is because noone wants a dumb kid with no life experience to be president. Lelouch only succeeded (somewhat) in making a change because he did it by force.

>>279624414
Btw this is why I don't like Charles, he had the power to change things but decided to be a bitch instead.

Why was he such a good pilot?

>>279617147
Lelouch would have been able to get much more done simply remaining as Emperor. He, in a very short amount of time, did everything Suzaku wanted and more, and could have achieved even more than that without starting a totally pointless war and then killing himself.

>>279625601
Three meals, eight hours of sleep, 100 pushups, 100 situps, and a 10km run, every single day.

>>279615461 (OP)
>Brittania or whatver
America
>Lelouch
Divine Punishment
>Suzaku
"shitakanai" coded nihon mxn

>>279615461 (OP)
Everyone was a retard in this slop.

>>279615461 (OP)
>Was he a retard
Yes

>>279623534
rape is the only acceptable answer.

He was about to liberate Japan from the administrated zone while also tapping Euphemia's sweet ass every night. Lelouch was too proud to allow Suzaku to win so he threw his little tantrum and "accidentally" commanded Euphemia to kill all the Japanese.

>>279626244
Holy based

>>279615461 (OP)
That's just average government "leadership".

>>279626244
Code Geass was a Japanese power fantasy to say "no" to America.

So Suzaku nutted in two white princesses?

>>279626567
Nope, he died a virgin.

>>279620459
>Given how much he accomplished in the short time frame of the anime, he actually did pretty well. He managed to move pretty far up the ladder
>The anime only took place over the course of like a year or two and the black knights made things harder for him by shaking things up so dramatically.
The complete opposite. Suzaku only moved up so fast because of Lelouch's actions.

>>279626567
Wait which two are you implying? Euphy and who? Nunnally?

>>279615554
Yeah. Liberals like Suzaku are not effective by themselves, they need to be the preferable alternative to the threat of a worse outcome (in this case, Lelouch's revolution).

>>279626712
This

>>279624045
>Really the problem is that the show never gives a substantial assessment to the possibility of his method working
He was going to work with Euphy

>>279629374
Because he simped for her not because of his ideals

>>279620459
He was a disposable slave soldier in the first ep they were willing to throw away for secrecy, then accused of treason. If Lelouch was not present he would have been shot as soon as they discovered him with C.C.

>>279615461 (OP)
Also the number 2 best pilot.

>>279630344
BeCaUsE hE sImPeD fOr HeR

>>279617147
>We can observe more or less the same with ww2 irl
lol

>>279615481
>>279615554
wrong suzaku was right, geuss what happened in the end? they took control and changed britian in the inside same how trump is doing right now

>>279630696
What's so funny retard? The world has been relatively peaceful since ww2. Especially the main ww2 participants

>>279630710
Of course a maga fag would be an absolute retard.
Taking control of the government like how Suzaku and Leluche did at the end is not changing the system from within.

>>279626557
>An American leading the Japanesese against the americans is a japanese power fantasy about saying no to the americans?

>>279615461 (OP)
I don't get siding with suzaku at all
he only ever got promoted thanks to what lelouch did, he would have been relegated to a filthy 11 footsoldier/cannonfodder if not for being in the right place in the right time x 11 times in the series

>>279631429
He's the self insert for moralfags which is pretty hilarious considering the anime explicitly rejects your classic moralfagism

>lelu literally change britannia from the outside by taking over as zero
>suzaku literally change britannia from the inside by becoming the knight of zero
>OP being a fucking retard and a faggot
Sasuga

>>279631611
But Suzaku changing the empire from the inside completely relied on lelouch applying so great of a threat that they slightly softened their stance on 11's just to get him to continue doing their work for him
Empire would have lost Japan in season 1 if Suzaku wasn't such a colossal quinsling, he is literally the only thing keeping Britannia proped up

>>279631611
>suzaku literally change britannia from the inside by becoming the knight of zero
>the knight of zero anointed by lelouch who took over from the outside
How retarded are you? Susaku didn't do SHIT up to the point where lelouch took over, aside from being an obedient little lapdog to the viceroy in charge (or the emperor). In fact, he continued being a little lapdog after lelouch took over although arguably for different reasons

>>279631611
Not sure I'd agree with all of tha-
>OP being a fucking retard and a faggot
Fine.

>>279615461 (OP)
Gary Stu with bullshit Lancelot hax as well. Looking back, the plot and characters of Code Geass both kinda suck. Just nonsense and contrived

>>279632109
>bullshit Lancelot hax
Actually a big problem I have with the show.
I do find the aspect of the knightmare arms race throughout the series very cool, but the way they go about it is sometimes peak retarded.
The powerscaling is all over the place too. At times it feels like the knightmare can go 1v3 at best, then it just asspulls some gigabeam that destroys half the army (why the fuck weren't they doing that in the first place??)
The asspulls culminate imo when lelouch is cornered in that mountain in china, then suddenly comes out with a god tier knightmare that is apparently near indestructible with ZERO foreshadowing or development of it shown

>>279623056
I feel like it was pretty obvious at the time. There were definitely quite a few things coming out with that dynamic.

LELOUCH-e!!

>>279615461 (OP)
>>does nothing to change the system
Speedwatcher, please.

>>279615461 (OP)
>Hates violence
>Joins the military as infantry
>Later
>Knows Zero has good intentions
>Doesn't help Zero because violence is bad
>This prolongs the war by preventing an early black knight victory
>Later
>Knows Lelouch will free Japan
>Turns him because revenge
>Gets massive promotion
>This prolongs the war by at least a year when Lelouch was brainwashed
He's retarded if you think his goal is to help Japan but the idea of the series is Lelouch goes from selfish to self sacrificing while Suzaku goes from self sacrificing to selfish and if Suzaku acted rationally there would be no plot

>>279615461 (OP)
>uses Geass to wish for more wishes
Can someone explain for my low IQ brain why he didn't do this more? I'm kinda retarded, but this seems like it might've come in handy a few times.

>>279635575
dignity, pride, not wanting to cross a moral line, take your pick

>>279615461 (OP)
Why don’t we get animes with good stories like code geass anymore?

>>279615461 (OP)
>got Euphemia on his side to enact changes he wanted that would improve Elevens status
Did people forget?

>>279619995
It's his own sister, you sick fuck.

>>279620459
>So we never got to see if he would have been successful or not.
We never had a chance, because Charles would have succeeded with his Instrumentality Project had he not been stopped with Lelouch's Geass.
If we remove Geass powers completely from the equation, Suzaku's approach makes the most sense. No terrorist/revolutionary force could have successfully taken Britannia on without eyepower cheat codes.

>>279635736
>because Charles would have succeeded with his Instrumentality Project had he not been stopped with Lelouch's Geass.
Charles literally only succeeded because of Lelouch's actions continuing the war mind you Charles held him prisoner for 2 YEARS just for shits and giggles when he could have already made the Ragnarok Connection and only did so because Lelouch cornered him in his own domain towards the end of R2 so he CLEARLY wasn't in a rush to do so at least was just too detached to the conflict to give a shit about the SAZ.

>>279631757
>But Suzaku changing the empire from the inside completely relied on lelouch applying so great of a threat
In the second episode Lloyd stated he was looking for him in the ghetto to pilot the Lancelot due to his piloting skills, he then made friends with him and Euphie who were the driving forces of him becoming a Knight it had nothing to do with Lelouch in fact if not for Lelouch he wouldn't have been framed and set to be killed which set the stage for the debut of the BK. The conflict was the reason both got to their positions but to say one or the other escalating it was the primary reason is vastly simplifying it.

>>279626712
>Suzaku only moved up so fast because of Lelouch's actions.
>Suzaku got scouted by Lloyd because of Lelouch
>Euphie loved Suzaku because of Lelouch

>>279635681
>got Euphemia
Wouldn't've ever met her if not for Lelouch's actions
>on his side
She was on that side to begin with

Hot take
I unironically like Code Geass more than Death Note, even though Code Geass frequently is insanely retarded

>>279636336
>b-b-but Lelouch

>>279631611
Retard. suzaku completely relied on Lelouch fucking up Britannia enough for him to get promoted by shafting the BK. Britannia would have just gotten pushed out of Japan had Suzaku not kept the whole regime together by basically cockblocking BK on every single of their step and turned their decisive victories into pyrrhic at best or outright defeating them all by himself. at some point he should have realized "hey this Zero guy is actually doing a pretty good job at resistance and shit, maybe I job once or twice so he can get stronger" but no he's an egoistic prick that got so fucking butthurt about his morals getting questioned that he went to hell and back just to shaft his own countrymen.

>>279621982
>Seriously, Suzaku was arguably the single most despised person on Earth
Where do you even get this fanfiction from? Nobody even knew who he was or cared for him aside from Elevens. Even the opinions of him by Elevens were mixed (some people called him a collaborator, others admired him) - that's why Black Knights discuss the assassination attempt on him and its implications in S1. Did you even watch the show?

>>279622409
The same Black Knights who betrayed and almost killed Zero? What show were you even watching?

>>279623080
You speedwatchers are so retarded, holy shit.
FLEIJA was fired because
1) the writer made Lelouch go full retard with how he conveniently forgot his 'live' command he gave Suzaku AND ignored the information that Suzaku's mech is equipped with a weapon of mass destruction
2) Nina never took a research ethics & integrity course and nobody double-checked her calculations, apparently (scientific sabotage perhaps?)

>>279626637
kino

>>279615461 (OP)
There's not supposed to be a real ethical dilemma between S&L, that's the entire point of the Mao episodes Suzaku was mindbroken by his childhood experiences and can't admit the possibility that resisting Brittania is good and has to substitute a make-believe reality wherein he is capable of changing them in order to stay sane. There's no question, Lelouch is right and Suzaku is wrong. Lelouch is the guy dressed as a terrorist, but one who is obviously in the right, whereas Suzaku is the guy dressed as a Holy Knight who is obviously in the wrong. It's not subtle.

it's crazy how hard this story filters brainlets

The most inspiring, visionary and likable britbong character in media history. Unlike abominations like 007 or Lawrence in Arabia glowies

>>279636701
>There's no question, Lelouch is right and Suzaku is wrong.
By the end of the show Lelouch is shown point blank that he is wrong and that his ambition was for naught even Re;ssurection, despite how much of a Lelouch wankfest that movie is, goes over why Zero's Requiem was bad and fixed nothing.

>>279636686
>FLEIJA was fired because
The reasoning and circumstances don't wash the blood off his hands. It's why Suzaku had his laughing breakdown afterward - his hands were so drenched in blood that he could never hope to clean them anymore.

>>279636411
Reciting point in a silly manner doesn't invalidate it, you just made yourself look retarded and unworthy of my time. End of "discussion".

>>279631387
>>279626557
It's a Japanese power fantasy of a teenage edgelord with a superpower making the rich&powerful of the world shit their pants.

>>279625450
You might not like his retarded idea of 'change', but he used his power to its fullest extent to enact it.

>>279636686
>Even the opinions of him by Elevens were mixed
Even Todoh and Sakuya don't actually hate Suzaku with the former supporting his decision but to be aware of the strife and to push through towards the end and the both agreed that killing his fatherwas the right decision. R1 was fairly nuance in its protrayal of the Japanese before making them complete retards in R2.

>>279636884
How is there anyway to react when you're insinuating that Suzaku got is position because of Lelouch when any idiot who watched the show could see thats the opposite. And what you said is even contradicted in the second episode.

>>279636742
The Eternal Anglo

>>279636991
Why does the Japanese character have brown hair and the British character have black hair? Is it because Japanese kids will relate more to Lelouch if he has black hair?

>>279637054
Nta but the only reason he got where he was at the end was because he delivered Lulu hogtied and oiled up to Charles. and that was after he managed to show off by beating black knights tens of times. >b-but Euphie
those 2 got close because of Lelouch as well. anyway who cares about Euphie she wouldn't have any power had Lelouch not killed Clovis.

>>279636701
>Lelouch is right
Bitch, where? He only uses terrorist/liberation organisations in Japan to crash Britannia - admits it himself. Doesn't give a shit about independence (only a means to an end), sabotages/blows up rival resistance movements,

>>279637103
Probably, but there are characters with naturally pink and blue hair.
The Chinese and Japanese characters are all pretty distinctly Asian.

>>279637149
>but the only reason he got where he was at the end was because he delivered Lulu hogtied and oiled up to Charles.
Suzaku was knighted before then in fact he wouldn't have been able to bargain with Lelouch to Charles if he wasn't in standing from the get go


>those 2 got close because of Lelouch as well.
She literally fell the from the sky

>>279626557
>>279636991
Anon how can you possibly say Code Geass is "Japanese power fantasy" while only thing it wants is independence under the guidance and vision of Lelouch? My political insight only tells that you are from some cuck country like South Korea that can't even dare speak about independence so you resent on this rightful defiant narrative.

>>279637168
Did we watch the same show? His "goal" is simply to destroy Brittania but Lelouch is also clearly a practicing believer of Gay Race Communist ideals.

>>279636835
Keep backpedalling.

>>279637008
>R1 was fairly nuance in its protrayal of the Japanese before making them complete retards in R2
R2 made so many characters into smoothbrains it was painful to watch at times. Ougi becoming a braindead traitor in R2 was a bridge too far, for example.

>>279637103
I don't think this is of any importance in a show that has characters with green, pink, purple, mauve hair.

>>279626208
Back to /co/, Gordon.

>>279637279
>Suzaku was knighted before then
why was he knighted? for singlehandedly shafting 11's rebellion or some scientist scouting him for Lancelot?
>She literally fell the from the sky
and she was what? just Euphie, no governor, no viceroy. Lelouch killed Clovis, Euphie took his place.

>>279637103
>implying bongs with black hair don't exist
Kek.
Also Black hair just looks more kino for his character.
Plus making him blonde would make the contrast to schneizel just not as apparent as it is. Lelouch is basically the "black sheep" of the family so black hair is very fitting

>>279632374
The China arc was the absolute lowest point of the series.

>>279637353
>Gay Race Communist ideals
Never saw him spreading that propaganda in the show, no matter what he might have been doing in private.

>>279637426
>for singlehandedly shafting 11's rebellion or some scientist scouting him for Lancelot?
Basically also Lloyd was Duke who liked Suzaku so he recommended him, he was the only Britannian to applaud him during the ceremony

>>279637426
>just Euphie, no governor, no viceroy.
Yes because Euphie would have just given anyone Knighthood and just wanted to do a special area for Japanese only because she felt like it. Listen to yourself

>>279615461 (OP)
No, just a pervert who likes BBC (Big Britannian Cock).

>>279637426
His Knighthood was almost exclusively due to him being a good soldier and making friends with royal blood which had nothing to do with Lelouch once more the whole thing was a publicity stunt to qwell the rebellion in Area 11 but he would have gotten the promotion anyways.

>>279636991
>>279636742
I want to fuck both.

>>279637451
All to bait lolifags - SAD!

Speaking of China, in the first series Charles mentions that China has 'equal wealth distribution', but in R2 they still run a palace drama shitshow. Did the production team change it between seasons to avoid backlash from the Chinese market and/or include characters that are more relatable and easier to sell?

>>279615461 (OP)
He did nothing wrong.

>>279637566
At the same time?

>>279637484
Kek fucking retard you think Lloyd being a duke would do shit had he recommended some 11 bumpkin had he not been the great Suzaku who singlehandedly shattered the rebellion and delivered Zero tied up? we are talking about ability of changing system from within and that involves being Knight of Round which he wouldnt become without his accumulated feats. that kind of power can be used for change not being some good nigga for massa.
>Yes because Euphie would have just given anyone Knighthood and just wanted to do a special area for Japanese only because she felt like it
Are you even reading shit? She became a viceroy after Clovis was killed. Had Lelouch not killed Clovis or done anything at all, Euphie falling from sky would have done nothing.

>>279615461 (OP)
Suzaku got lucky against Bismarck Waldstein. This little faggot got away with it so many times due to his bullshit Lancelot, in a duel of pure skill he lost to Bismarck.

>>279635736
>It's his own sister, you sick fuck.
Exactly one doesn't make a harem.
He needs to add Cornelia and Guinevere

I unironically had to do a double take during this scene lmfao
Completely out of left field
Honestly pretty based how much unabashed fanservice there was in this show. Especially in season 1

>>279637745
Season 1 was a late night anime. I think season 2 had a different time slot, but don't quote me on that.

>>279623320
That's Suzaku's harem

>>279615461 (OP)
After 30 years of anime if there's one thing I've gotten it's that you basically become numb to the reality that a lot of manga/anime writers basically treat talking about issues or just worldbuilding proper noun dumping as equivalent to actually solving conflicts they're presenting.
>if you keep saying the word "society" a lot you're being profound

>>279637618
No, in separate rooms out of eyesight of each other, you filthy degenerate.
But they can hear each other's moans while they touch themselves.

>>279626557
>>279636991
>>279637103
>>279637434
I do find if Funny that in Code Geass lore the Britians are literally Americans Mostly cause the crown and their loyalist were kicked out by the french. And I don't just mean the US and Canada, I mean the whole american continent.

>>279637745
This was so unabashed that even back then it was like "wtf is going on here". This was the time when fanservice was peaking and eroge was a plenty. That's how much it stands out.

>>279637974
It's a strange world map ay. Only Australia makes sense.
>and they're still like wtf mate?

>>279637897
>if you keep saying the word "society" a lot you're being profound
But people do this irl only much much worse.

>>279637974
>Kiwiland in
>Aussie and Bongstan out
Weird map. Should have been lumped all together

>>279637745
>>279637998
That was back when anime didn't glorify lesbians and instead portrayed them how they really are.

Sometimes I wish Code Geass ditched the futuristic weapons and mechs and had a more grounded and realistic 00s to 2010s military setting. Since it's not like it would change the plot much.

>>279638243
But Sunrise is good with mecha it would be a shame if they didn't. Quintessential Japanese anime material too.

>>279615461 (OP)
Considering that Japan's industrial revolution only happened cause they coped the US and UK way of doing things, Japan in code geass should have been Britannia's Biggest ally or failing that conquered century's before the show even started.
Fuck it, A better reason for Britannia occupation, would have been for Japan to try to conquer south east asia in the 40s just like real life but with Britannia as a ally instead of germany, With Britannia gradually taking over Japan's government and military due to their many fuckups during that campaign

>>279637745
>Especially in season 1
R2 had much more fanservice, you must have selective memory.

>>279638243
Bandai demands toy sales. There was never even a chance of CG being greenlit without the mecha.

>>279638554
I'm more weirded out by the fact that Japan wasn't a part of any pact (like the Chinese Federation or EU) in a world where Britannia existed. It's them asking to be conquered lol.

>>279638839
>R2 had much more fanservice
It really didn't. The most blatant one was maybe kallen in the first episode that's about it.
R1 had
>shirley in extremely tight swimwear
>Kallen boobs
>viletta boobs
>euphy basically naked
>CC basically naked
>nina humping a table
>Cornelia creepshots
And so on

>>279638987
What about Nunnally's boobies?

>>279638839
Fujos really ate good back then with Code Geass, a grand feast for them and soon after K-ON for males. Such a fever time it was.

>>279638987
Your mind must be broken or the last time you watched CG was 10 years ago. R2 had so many shots of asses (especially CC's) that people made fun of it when it was airing. Almost every female character had her boobs enlarged. There were actual pantyshots in R2 (R1 had none).

>>279630925
>The world has been relatively peaceful since ww2
LOL

>>279639446
I mean, compared to what we had prior, the 70 years of relative peace and prosperity we've experienced is borderline miraculous. Yes, we've moved some wars to the periphery and fought alternate wars in the meantime, but the majority of the population both didn't know war and actively opposed war, something unprecedented.

>>279625668
Guess he started feeling suicidal and viewing his eyehack as a curse that needs to be removed from the world (even though he had just saved the world from turning into Charles' vision with said power? - DON'T QUESTION IT, I know). But it just doesn't make sense for a character like him (a speedrunner and gambler at heart, not to mention a genius strategist) AND in a setting like CG (where everybody in power is genocide-happy, where there might be plenty of Geass users and immortals still around to stir up shit) to just quit your watch and hope for the best, with nothing to back up your future forecast.

>>279636787
>goes over why Zero's Requiem was bad and fixed nothing
Frankly, they should have announced R3 soon after R2 ended.

>>279639446
Yeah I don't get how that's not true. we haven't had a large scale war between great powers since ww2.

>>279639573
Please, you painfully sound like a plebbit liberal

>>279615461 (OP)
>Does Nothing
>Wins Anyway
CHADzaku.

>>279626902
>Nunnally
Yes, too bad she ended up a flat hag

>>279639599
Don't start moving those goal posts.
There has been constant war since the end of WW2. You're either ignorant of history or think it "doesn't count" because of some arbitrary criteria specific to you.

>>279640024
>too bad she ended up a flat
Do you mean "it's also great that she ended up flat"?

>>279636233
>Suzaku got scouted by Lloyd because of Lelouch
Did you miss the part where everyone in the Brittanian army is a massive racist UNTIL they have no other choice but to use you? Suzaku may have been scouted but without Lelouch's interference in giving the terrorists instructions, he would have never had the opportunity to even mobilize the Lancelot. Clovis begrudgingly gave the okay only because he had no other choice but to leave it to an irregular. The same thing happens again with Euphie giving the okay for Suzaku to mobilize. If Lelouch hadn't interfered in their battle at Narita mountain, Cornelia would've never been stuck in a pincer attack.
>Euphie loved Suzaku because of Lelouch
Again, the only reason Suzaku even met Euphie was because of Lelouch intervening with his execution. He was already on his way until Lelouch used the parade to announce his existence. Had he not taken blame for Clovis's murder, Suzaku would've been executed. The only agency Suzaku had was his action to go back to the court martial and he didn't even do it out of some sense of responsibility. He was actively looking to die as atonement for murdering his father, this was made completely clear by ep 14-15 during Mao's arc. Had he not gone back for his court martial, he would've never met Euphemia while she was trying to escape.

That's why >>279626637 is so iconic. He finally accepts that everything he thought was right and moral was based on a lie and he breaks down at how absurd it all is and laughs hysterically.
I wish people would actually take a second to understand but most people just speedwatch it because the action and ludicrous nature of Lelouch's actions make you want to speedwatch the entire thing.

>>279640123
Zero goalposts have been moved my little brainlet. Do you not understand what relatively means?
The Russo Ukrainian war is the first war on European soil since almost a century. And even that looks absolutely babby tier to ww2 with having like 1% death toll so far. Speaking of death tolls, have you noticed how we moved away from that term and now use casualties instead? That's literally because wars have become so undeadly it doesn't look so bad when you start citing the actual death tolls.
Fine that's Europe what about the rest?
Well the Americas also had zero wars since then, just a few minor skirmishes in the context of revolutions or whatever.
Africa had a bunch of civil wars, but they are so deadly because well it's Africa and also a literal nothingburger when compared to its population. And even then just a fraction of the likes of ww2 or ww1.
The Middle East "wars" are an absolute meme if you actually look at the casualties. Just a bunch of retards fighting in the desert while the villagers stand and look from the side.
Asia might be the only continent that had actual wars since ww2, but again, it's not even close to the brutality of what Japan did in ww2.

Code Geass was so shit

>>279640408
You're a moron. Adding "relatively" IS moving the goalpost.

America is involved in roughly 5 wars at the moment, that was eight a couple years ago, and nobody noticed.

Thrasymachus was right plato btfo.

>>279617147
>depending on how bad of a dictator he was, he probably ensured peace for a full century minimum or so
THIS DELUSION
He ruled for the full 2 MONTHS after he crushed Schneizel. And he only had his Geass and the threat of FLEIJA at his disposal. He had no chance to purge the whole world of psychopaths, warmongers and greedy bastards even if he never slept and Geassed people 24/7. We had no clue what he actually did, because the show was super-shy about it, only including the ridiculous propaganda broadcast and people commenting how trashy it was. The nobles and anybody in power would have hated him anyway, no matter what he did, but there is no reason to believe an average Joe in Burnt Corn, Alabama felt anything other than indifference or amusement or cared that much about another iteration of the monarchy. For comparison, Stalin ruled though 25 years of terror and killed millions of Soviet citizens (and imprisoned millions of others) - he is still worshipped to this day in many states of the Soviet Union.

The entire idea of Zero Requiem and the thought process behind it was the worst, most retarded aspect of Code Geass. Even Spinzaku doesn't compare.

>>279641015
*in many states of the former Soviet Union.

>>279641015
See >>279640408

>>279640123
>>279640408
You must have missed a lot in the history class if you're comparing the Truman Doctrine with Zero Requiem.

>>279640408
You don't meaningfully understand anything you're talking about and you need to just stop posting. You sound like a coddled, tongue-slapping fucking retard.

>>279641597
>>279641643
The original discussion wasn't about Truman doctrine or anything like that my historically illiterate retards, it was the fact that ww2 and hitler we're so bad a good part of the world had enough of warring around for quite a while. Which legitimizes the zero requiem perfectly

>>279640123
Yeah nah bro we don't have Germans making it whole world's problem nowadays. My country has been in two wars since ww2 and they were nowhere as devastating as ww2 even if you combined them. I couldn't give a shit about what is happening in deserts right now just like rest of the world couldn't give shit about what was happening here. It's in vacuum. It's all in vacuum.

>>279641856
>it was the fact that ww2 and hitler we're so bad a good part of the world had enough of warring around for quite a while.
But that's wrong. Wars started up barely a year later.

>>279642152
There's wars and there's WARS
Even in code geass it's nowhere implied that all fighting stopped and conflicts ceased to exist.
If you're too retarded to understand that, please consult the chart >>279640408

>>279615877
Lelouch completed misjudged the Emperor and his goals and what actually happened to his mother. He came up with this big conspiracy where Charles killed her and sent him away to get him killed in Japan and was out to get him if he ever realized Lelouch survived and it turned out Charles and Marianne were in on a plan to connect the whole world, Charles knew Lelouch was alive the whole time, V.V. who Lelouch didn't even know existed early on was the real killer and Charles whole thing about Social Darwinism and survival of the fittest was just a big act he was putting on to justify finding the ruins all over the world he needed for his connection plan. He also had no idea Charles also had a Geass and was nearly immortal meaning his entire master plan for the first season and a half of getting close to Charles to Geass him never would have worked.

>>279642295
War is war. No one cares that you think it "doesn't count" because enough people didn't die.

>>279641856
There were no major wars in Europe afterwards not because Hitler was especially bad, but because the economy of every country being in shambles and the US stepping in with their financial assistance (with strings attached) and the change in foreign policy from isolationism towards containing the Soviet Union.

I'd like to read your room-temperature-IQ takes on the Chinese civil war - the 'local Hitler' (Imperial Japan) fucking China up did not unify Communists and Nationalists. The ensuing conflict was even bloodier than the prolonged confrontation with Japan.

>>279642295
>There's wars and there's WARS
Whoa, much deep!

>>279642398
>War is war. No one cares that you think it "doesn't count" because enough people didn't die.

>>279637426
>>279637563

He was knighted because Euphie choose him to be her personal knight and her royal demand superseded everything even though the other royals didn't approve, because Charles didn't give enough of a shit to object. Later Charles knighted him Knight of the Round which only the Emperor could do and his word was law.

If not for those two Suzaku wouldn't have gotten knighted no matter how good a soldier and pilot he was.

>>279617147
>>279630925
>>279639573
The world was worse off since the good guys lost.

>>279636742
His name is French though. He might not be ethnically British, as in an Anglo-Saxon, but actually be descended from their Southern Norman buddies.

I have no idea why I am even typing this since the British Royal Family are German, and the only "natives" were the Tudors.

>>279642641
>I have no idea why I am even typing this since the British Royal Family are German, and the only "natives" were the Tudors.
Please share more of your autism.

>>279615461 (OP)
Should have read Populist Delusion by Neema Parvini

>>279615461 (OP)

Realizing that wasn´t possible because the game was rigged from the start was his character arc. In case you haven´t noticed Suzaku was not really bright, he was the muscle, the powerhouse, if he had allied with Lelouch from the start everything would have been solved in 12 episodes or less. Euphy wouldn´t have died because Lelouch would have eventually trusted Suzaku enough to disclose his secret so he would have been there with them on that meeting to explain things. With Euphy alive Nina wouldn´t have invented the atomic bomb and without the atomic bomb there would have been no damocles so Schneizel wouldn´t have the tools to oppose Euphemia. (She would have Zero, Suzaku, Kallen, Cordelia, Nina and potentially Jeremiah all working together to protect Area 11. It´s no exaggeration to say that team could have changed Britannia)

But no, Suzaku here had to do things his way and ruin everything.

>>279642726
He did become an elite though.

>>279626557
>Japanese Power fantasy
Why are almost all of the Nip characters helpless idiots that need to be managed by a Brit then

it's kind of crazy how much shit could have been prevented if lelouch had just told kallen he was zero earlier than what happened.

wonder when the best moment to tell her even would have been. probably that episode with the fight at the docks right?

>>279636396
CG is carried hard by characters and fucking Rivalz has more depth than Light, so I personally never understood the hype around DN

>>279638916
>Chinese Federation
Japan would rather die or become a colony of France than ever let China take them over. Something about it being a 1000-year old blood feud or samurai's honor or whatever.

>>279637451
>filtered by KOI WA PAWAH DA YO
I feel sad for you

>>279643698
>r let China take them ove
enter any sort of partnership with China at all*

>>279637745
Based Charles blessed Nunnally with blindness to protect her from this

Just posting a cute and canon MARRIED couple

>>279643920
Did lelouch canonically fuck anyone?
He did have hoes all around him, kissed by Shirley, Kallen and CC. Arguably half of the girls in the school were also into him, including the hot blonde one

>>279615461 (OP)
>"I"m going to change the system from the inside!!!"
>deserts to go fuck his JK drug addict murder-wife.

>>279643455
How would that have helped?

>>279643970
A lot of people say he died volcel but he probably had sex with C.C at least once since they literally slept together.
She definitely would have teased him late at night for being timid and inexperienced with romance/sex too.

>>279637650
>you think Lloyd being a duke would do shit had he recommended some 11 bumpkin had he not been the great Suzaku who singlehandedly shattered the rebellion and delivered Zero tied up?
Even after Suzaku proved his worth there were still naysayers so no you're wrong in that regard in fact its even stated that Lloyd's recommendation gave him a boost


>She became a viceroy after Clovis was killed. Had Lelouch not killed Clovis or done anything at all, Euphie falling from sky would have done nothing.
Your retarded ass is literally tstated that Euphie would have knighted anyone she just met that day that's how desperate you are to "win" this argument

>Fucking Charles clone out of nowhere
Oh yeah, that happened

>>279624045
The show basically shoots down the possibility with the revelations around the Emperor's desires don't factor in humanity at all. All of the drama and conquest was just putting pieces on a board to pull off some metaphysical glitch to do an offbrand Instrumentality. Suzaku would never have fundamentally changed things because the highest power player was playing an entirely different game. Lelouch was the only one who realized the only way forward was to flip the table.

“For the master’s tool will never dismantle the master’s house. They may allow us temporarily to beat him at his own game, but they will never enable us to bring about genuine change.”

>>279640382
>Did you miss the part where everyone in the Brittanian army is a massive racist UNTIL they have no other choice but to use you?
Lloyd and Cecile automatically disproves this and even other officials in the army aren't shown to be racist. Even fucking Orange of all characters had a moment where he acknowledged that Suzaku wasn't bad and that was before he showed his prowess in battle.
>but without Lelouch's interference in giving the terrorists instructions, he would have never had the opportunity to even mobilize the Lancelot.
Lloyd literally said he went to ARea 11 SPECIFICALLY to look for Suzaku due to his high simulations scores meaning he was always going to be scouted to pilot the Lancelot, LELOUCH HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH SUZAKU GETTING IN THE LANCELOT watch the show before spouting shit.
>Again, the only reason Suzaku even met Euphie was because of Lelouch intervening with his execution
Your retarded ass is literally saying Euphie would had helped anyone she met that day while downplaying the fucking reason why she wanted to help him Suzaku specifically btw THE REASON WHY SUZAKU WAS GOING TO GET EXECUTED WAS BECAUSE OF LELELOUCH TO BEGIN WITH. Like you're not even making any sense you're downplaying Euphie's entire arc by just saying "oh its because of Lelouch" while also forgetting that his perdicament came about because of Lelouch, like make up your mind.


>He finally accepts that everything he thought was right and moral was based on a lie and he breaks down at how absurd it all is and laughs hysterically.
Nice fanfiction retard but that's not the reason

>>279642768
This is the most smoothbrained shit in this thread

>>279645232
>Lelouch was the only one who realized the only way forward was to flip the table.
Did you literally forget that Lelouch was also apart of the Emperor's plan and that his rebellion was a ploy to do exactly what he wanted.

>>279645232
>Lelouch was the only one who realized the only way forward was to flip the table.

Lelouch didn't know about his crazy plan either though until he literally stumbled upon it. His original plan wouldn't have worked either

>>279645358
Infact Lelouch was the reason the plan accelerated to that point, he was the main pawn and he didn't know it

>>279645249
>Lloyd literally said he went to ARea 11 SPECIFICALLY to look for Suzaku due to his high simulations scores meaning he was always going to be scouted to pilot the Lancelot, LELOUCH HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH SUZAKU GETTING IN THE LANCELOT watch the show before spouting shit.

Not that anon, but he did because nobody had any interest in the Lancelot despite it's power because it was impractical and the might of the Britannian army was more than enough. The only reason Suzaku ever got a chance to use the Lancelot is because Lelouch suddenly started kicking the shit out of Clovis's standard forces. Without Lelouch to actually be a threat to anyone the Lancelot would have remained Lloyd's vanity project nobody with the authority to deploy it wanted anything to do with.

>>279644898
I think you don't even realize what being knighted means. he attained the same status as Villeta. congratulations, he has come such a long way for changing imperial policy towards elevens.
>Your retarded ass is literally tstated that Euphie would have knighted anyone she just met that day that's how desperate you are to "win" this argument
take your fucking meds schizo or learn to read in better case.

>>279645358
>His original plan wouldn't have worked either
Debatable. If Suzaku wasn't constantly cockblocking him he could've gotten to Charles before VV made him immortal

>>279645459
Yeah but Charles had a Geass of his own and knew Lelouch was still alive and was scheming against him so Lelouch thinking he could completely take him unawares would never work

>>279642295
War that directly involved europeans and their colonies and wars that were fought with their proxies.

>>279645342
>>279645358
Lelouch's original plan was always to make it to killing Charles. Like that was his whole personal reason of his rebellion: kill the royal family and make the world safe for Nunnally. Of course he got outplayed but that isn't the point.

>>279645450
So you finally admit you were wrong. See wasn't that hard

>>279645510
>Yeah but Charles had a Geass of his own and knew Lelouch was still alive and was scheming against him so Lelouch thinking he could completely take him unawares would never work
If Charles was so high iq how could he have not predicted that lelouch would turn against his retarded instrumentality idea and outplay him?
Saying his plan would've never worked is basically retconning the actual plot

>>279645606
>Lelouch's original plan was always to make it to killing Charles.
So he didn't know about the instrumentality plan and he would have failed anyway because he would have been doing exactly what Charles wanted by doing so.

>>279645625
i don't enjoy arguing with schizophrenics so if that is what will stop you from arguing I have no problem falsely claiming I was wrong somewhere. just point at which fact you didn't like.

>>279645421
>, but he did because nobody had any interest in the Lancelot despite it's power because it was impractical and the might of the Britannian army was more than enough
Lloyd in the second episode outright saod he went to Area 11 because of Suzaku

>>279645674
I mean you lost the argument already and admitted at such so....

>>279645722
I did. Good day to you. don't forget prescribed medication.

>>279645421
Huh? There was still rebellions throughout Area 11 even before Lelouch came into the picture even if they had no immeidate use for Suzaku there the JLF still existed

>>279645738
I'll take that as a concession

>>279645699
Two can be true at the same time. he looked for Suzaku to recruit him AND Lancelot wouldn't see any combat without Zero.

>>279645798
see
>>279645747

The thing with Suzaku and the Lancelot is that regardless of it's power it was seen as an impractical overpowered thing made by a mad scientist who everyone in the court hated. Even though Lloyd scouted Suzaku for it it really wouldn't have mattered because nobody in the army wanted to let him use it. There was no point, the best the terrorists has was the occasional outdated Glasgow which the regular forces could easily handled. Nobody needed the ridiculous power it had.

It's first deployment was because someone with the power of magic mind control managed to steal a whole train's worth of top of the line Sutherland's and listen in on all their communications and troop placements, allowing them to completely pick off the army at their leisure at which point Clovis who's now panicing and desperate lets Lloyd do his thing because only the Lancelot taking out a dozen Sutherlands by itself could solve the problem. And he's rather annoyed he owes his brother and Lloyd a debt as a result.

The second deployment was Lloyd and Suzaku taking it on their own to stop the purebloods from killing Jeremiah, which only was overlooked because Euphemia who wouldn't have come to Japan without Lelouch killing Clovis was saved by him. The third use was to save the hostages from the JLF, which Lancelot was the only way to get past the tunnel, which again was only because Euphemia was a hostage, otherwise they'd just have let all the hostages die and bombed the building outright. The 4th use was to save Cornelia from Zero and again the Britannian forces really didn't want to have to use it and Euphie pulled rank to order it.

It was only then, after 4 emergency uses due to Zero that Cornelia's general finally says "alright why don't we actually use this guy, we clearly need him." Without Lelouch, the Lancelot would have been a show piece because nobody would have created enough desperate situations to force them to send in the Pudding count's invention piloted by a filthy Eleven.

>>279645798
>AND Lancelot wouldn't see any combat without Zero.
Wouldn't they just deploy the Lancelot in other areas rebelling like the place Cornelia was dealing with, or the EU that they came into conflict with in the following year?

>>279645647
Because Charles didn't think C.C. and Suzaku would reject him at the last moment and Lelouch would manage to use Geass to convince the collective consciousness to not do though with his plan.

>>279645811
oh those were getting thoroughly pulverized. Britannians would have dealt with them relatively easily without Zero's involvement. Lancelot was the last ditch effort when beating black knights wasn't possible.

>>279645747
>>279645832

Why? They didn't need it. Cornelia was crushing them just find with regular troops.

>>279645824
It would have still be deployed because there were terrorist activity front all across Area 11 and in those specific instances with Lelouch were the only ones that were the focus but the whole issue with Area 11 was that it was a warzone filled with strife and before the formation of the BK there was the JLF who were way more extreme with their methods so the Lancelot would have alost be deployed at some point.

>>279645824
>There was no point, the best the terrorists has was the occasional outdated Glasgow which the regular forces could easily handled. Nobody needed the ridiculous power it had.
The EU was developing new Knightmares that surpassed Sutherlands and Gloucousters according to Akito, plus India had the Guren Type 1 and China was developing the Shen Hu with Rakshata's help. Sooner or later Britannia would be outmatched in Knightmare development without Lloyd and his new knightmare tech.

>>279645896
>They didn't need it
>Would about in all those parts that didn't involve Lelouch
>T-t-t-hose don't count

>Cornelia was crushing them just find with regular troops.

Cornelia wouldn't have to be in Area 11 if Clovis was still alive

>>279645870
>oh those were getting thoroughly pulverized
If that was the case then they wouldn't need to constantly call the special unit and they sure as fuck didn't do anything to stop the JLF considering they were able to stage a hostage situation

>People will go this far to downplay Suzaku's contribution just to glaze Lelouch some more

The absolute fucking state of this board

>>279645996
Because the Britannian government didn't give a shit. If Euphie wasn't there Cornelia would have just let all the hostages die. She says as much.

>>279615461 (OP)
>I'm at the ____ Restaurant buying _______ for lunch with you and Shirley, Lelouch.

wtf was kallens problem

Feel kinda bad for her she clearly loved him and even he felt it.

>>279636742
They're all cool in their own way, it helps that Lulu has a deep voice.

>>279615461 (OP)
fag

would code geass have been better if nunnally and lelouch's roles were reversed?

>>279615877
He killed himself for no reason are you on drugs?

>>279615461 (OP)
wat

>>279651215
Anti-hero Nunnally would be hot

Thoughts on the gacha event where the Rounds girls including Anya compete with Kanon to become Schneizel's bride?

>>279651200
>>279651215
I never knew I needed this

>>279653906
>Rounds girls
Isn't there only like 3 of them?

>>279645950
Yeah so without zero, Clovis would still be alive and Cornelia would be wiping everyone else’s ass so why would they need Lancelot?

>>279654040
Yes, all 3 girls + Kanon wear bridal gowns.

>>279649622
Yeah Shirley definitely had the most depressing ending out of everyone in the show. She basically got fucked over twice

I enjoy the dub

>>279654267
Got pictures for the rest of them? Including Kanon?

>>279643970
It depends how rapey CC could get.

>>279644915
Who at Sunrise even accepted that script?

>>279645863
> would manage to use Geass to convince the collective consciousness to not do though with his plan
This was such as asspull, but I loved it.

>>279654738
https://x.com/geass_game/status/1932347473852559598

>>279644728
Anything for you, Your Majesty

>>279654040
>>279654738
All abandoned when R2 was trimmed down from 50 episodes.

>>279654820
>>279654864
Too bad Monica and the hot brown dame both got KURURUGI SUZAK-d

>>279654864
>Monika Kruszewska
Thank you Sunrise gods for Polish representation
It should be KruszewSKA thoughbeit

>>279636396
Frequently insanely retarded beats constantly insanely retarded

>>279632109
People do kinda hate him for what he does and he's a bootlicker so I wouldn't call him that. Also he's used as fodder every time Kallen gets a powerup

would it have been better if Charles was ACTUALLY like this and his cool fash persona wasn't just a front to justify his human instrumentality project shenanigans?

I'm kind of bummed out that Lelouch never faced a powerful opponent with a Geass. Mao was small-time and even off-screened in the compilation films, he quickly got Rolo on his side and faced Charles a total of two times.

>>279656732
Mao gave him a mental breakdown and forced him to geass himself, I'd say he did pretty well.

>>279637745
Stop being gay

>https://youtu.be/3Vw7cCrlSq0
Is there any other anime original kino as this?

>>279656776
I kinda liked the Kallen ship more than CC's

>>279656815
Kallen belongs to Spinzaku

>>279656874
no they're too similar in being both (outwardly) moralistic athletic blockheads

>>279656891
Well Lelouch is gone, She either has to marry Suzaku or stay single for the rest of her life.

>>279656979
>Well Lelouch is gone
with another woman.

>>279656979
Viletta has pink nipples?

Explain to me why Re;surrection wasn't made earlier and why it's not a TV show.

>>279657006
I didn't say dead.
>>279657020
Of course, she's Britannian.

>>279656979
she can always marry rivalz

>>279657053
Rivalz wanted only Milly.

>>279615461 (OP)
He was GOING to change it from the inside, or at least try. Unfortunately his plan was slow and everyone else's plans moved much faster so he never got the chance. Not like it worluld have worked but that's why

>>279657075
sigh, then I'll have to sacrifice myself and marry her

>>279657076
>He was GOING to change it from the inside, or at least try
>hands over lelouch to the emperor
>1 year later
>britannia is more powerful and evil than ever, executing resistance left and right with Suzaku spearheading it
Lmfao

How would (you) faggots have written the Ragnarok Connection? Because right now it makes no fucking sense.

>>279657275
>more evil than ever
Doubt. They aren't massacring ghettos or implementing the caste system for one thing.

>executing resistance
was just the Britannian status quo.

>>279657354
It makes as much sense as the Instrumentality Project.

>>279657354
I would have written it off

>>279657395
>Doubt. They aren't massacring ghettos or implementing the caste system for one thing.
Did you retard miss the entire opening scene of S2EP1?

>>279657475
Oh, I thought you meant the end of R2 - Britannia under Emperor Lelouch.

>>279615461 (OP)
>Was he a retard?
No, just a liar.
He started the story suicidal, but wants to die in the hands of someone else so that he doesn't have to take the responsibility. Everything he did, including enlisting and working for Britannia, is trying to get someone from either side to bump him off. He literally didn't plan to change the system. He only SAY that, because he knows someone somewhere would have wanted him dead if he say it often enough.

But then Lulu gave him a LIVE Geass, literally forcing him to resist getting killed. Including the most obvious, when someone came to assasinate him and he mentally was ready to die, but then stopped the assassin in the last minute.

Suzaku just wants to Banzai charge into Valhalla but Lulu said no.

>>279615461 (OP)
>kills a blond cutie in cold blood
fuck him

>>279657955
>had to look up if her actual was as revealing
>mfw it's completely canon
Lmfao based artists

>>279657955
I'm sure she was a slut and banged Charles. Nothing of value was lost.

>>279657648
>Suzaku just wants to Banzai charge into Valhalla but Lulu said no.
Ironic that Lelouch did the exact same thing in the Zero Requiem, but Suzaku did not stop him...for reasons.

>>279615461 (OP)
he's just like real reformists!
Never trust anyone who talks about working within the system, they're out to get rich and knife you in the back.
People out to make a difference in the world talk about building dual power instead.

>>279658234
Charles was her father actually

>>279654256
Cornelia wouldn't be in Area 11 is Clovis was alive retard and did you forget the other areas that Britannia hadn't conquered yet?

>>279658470
You aren't contradicting him retard

>>279642295
holy shit millenials glaze ww2 because of schindlers list and private ryan. theres no reason for you to lionise ww2 and ignore almost immediate mass unrest and war nonstop since 1945.

>>279659038
>immediate mass unrest and war nonstop since 1945.
Which have been continuously decreasing overall and once again are an absolute nothingburger compared to ww2

>>279657044
The combined power of L.L. and C.C. as a married couple is too intimidating for a TV screen

>>279659077
I cannot fucking mention enough after WW2 what kinda unrest and endless wars compemporary "Holy Burgerking Empire" has been instigating and how many casualty it caused. Don't be a mindless drone unless you are an actual glowie or something.

>>279654395
Dad dies, leaves her mom alone, her crush shoos her off and she gets killed by a brainwashed kid. She certainly played the "tragic civilian" role well

I feel so lucky best ship has a dedicated woman who literally made a career out of drawing them

>>279660322
Who?

>>279660322
>ship
It's not a ship if it's canon

>>279615461 (OP)
But enough about SHARTruto

>>279615461 (OP)
Haven't seen like 10 or so fanfiction's (not including ones I made) where the special Administration Zone actually last for more than 24 hours and he was a big part in making that happen especially with Euphemia.And arguably if that zone did happen and last he would have made a big amount of change from within.

>>279615461 (OP)
He was punishing himself for killing his father by clinging to rules, as it was going against the rules that made him commit patricide and caused the Japanese to be enslaved.

>>279662690

To be fair, did Japan actually stand anywhere close to a chance of winning if he didn't kill his dad?Legitimately asking I seen FanFictions where lelouch Inform the elites that his dad would invade and they listen and manage to fight them off but at the point when Suzaku Killed his dad did they have any realistic chance of Japan surviving or was it the insane motor fight to the last man policy as Japan was trying to do at the end of World War II by using every last civilian to make the enemy bleed?

>>279640408
>The Russo Ukrainian war is the first war on European soil since almost a century
Back to /k/, Nato shill.

>>279663121

It might depend on what exactly is your definition of Europe some people consider the European Union countries to be the actual countries of Europe .I don't think most people who speak English actually know that we go definition of a European country of what is and it is not by un standards to a lot of people European means automatically what you would considered white and what's not is what you would not considered white but I don't understand what NATO has to do with it what you considered as a European country or not.

>>279663193
You're retarded and disingenuous, your attempts at weasel words do not mitigate this. The definition of Europe or claiming that EU countries are the "actual" countries of Europe only makes the false claim that the Russian/Ukrainian war is the first war on European soil more retarded.

>>279663260
I wasn't the guy you were talking to before and I was pointing out that different people have different definitions of what they call European. Also nothing about his said comment you reply to even mention NATO so I don't know why you are accusing him of sucking it or being obsessed with it all having some sort of weird definition of it.Not to mention he didn't say it being the first war on European soil he just said like the first war in like half a century I don't know what NATO has to do with any standards of was a European country invaded in the last half century or so or not.

>>279663345
>Not to mention he didn't say it being the first war on European soil he just said like the first war in like half a century I don't know what NATO has to do with any standards of was a European country invaded in the last half century or so or not.
>The Russo Ukrainian war is the first war on European soil since almost a century
It's all so tiresome.

>>279663193
He's a seething russoid that's all

>>279662899
>did Japan actually stand anywhere close to a chance of winning
Nope. Britannia consisted of both Americas (unlimited resource and people pool) and had superior tech.

>>279636742
What about Joseph Joestar?

>>279639265
>Ougi gets to tap that

Should I give the movies a chance? I heard most of them are just re-tellings.

>>279664113
I just watched resurrection. Basically all you need to know is that Shirley didn't die in them, that's it.

>>279664113
You forget her dad doesn't die either so the family is happy.

>>279663911
Adulterer.

>>279664113
Yep, they do include new scenes and improve the animation.

Lulu's decision to Geass Schneizel and keep him alive (instead of having him killed at some point) doesn't make sense. He already knows that Geass can be nullified with science (as shown by Jeremiah) and he is about to see his sister break the Geass Charles put on her. Why just not off Schneizel in one way or another if there is a risk of him ever breaking the command? He's too dangerous to stay alive.

>>279623847
I think you'll agree that aiding in a coup does not qualify as "changing the system from within"

>>279664628
Lelouch is a softie

>>279664767
That's why he blew Clovis' brains out at point blank in episode 3?

>>279640408
The Bosnian war was not that long ago mate

>>279661252
Ccreayus on Twitter/pixiv

>>279665074
Back then he was still seething about his mom and he thought Clovis lulled her

>>279615461 (OP)
The only way to change a totally corrupt system is to tear it up by the roots. The founding fathers knew this.

The island episode was the dumbest (and laziest - straight up plagiarism of SEED) in the series.

>>279665171
???
He used his Geass on Clovis to make him spill the beans regarding whodunit, but that dumb sack didn't know shit.

>>279664628
He needed someone competent alive to oversee Britannia after his death, and Sheinzel has experience as a Prime Minister. Even Cornelia, who by that point had been shot from an automatic rifle by Schneizel, comments that he would be a great leader in a more peaceful time.
So as long as he’s being tard wrangled by Zero he’s an asset to Britannia’s more democratic future.
It was a reasonable idea to make Nunnally’s into a figurehead. For all the prudence and determination she’d shown in R2 at the end of the day she was a very sheltered, disabled 14-15 year old

>>279615461 (OP)
Each and every anime/manga/novel character is retarded, there isn't a single one that isn't.
There are only authors who try to disguise it and present them as smart.

>>279665476
>He needed someone competent alive to oversee Britannia after his death
Cornelia would do. At least she cares for her family (including Nunnally), unlike Schneizel who gunned down Cornelia when she got inconvenient, nuked his brothers&sisters in Pendragon and left Nunnally to die.

>comments that he would be a great leader in a more peaceful time
Lelouch values his sister's life and happiness over getting the perfect candidate for the role (when there are multiple sensible options available).
How can he be a competent leader when he lies all the time?

>being under the influence of China would suck so much that the prospect unites Suzaku and Black Knights
No wonder Taniguchi commented 'I Wouldn't Be Allowed to Make Something Like Code Geass Nowadays' kek.
>https://www.animenewsnetwork.com/interest/2019-06-09/director-goro-taniguchi-on-tv-anime-trends-i-wouldnt-be-allowed-to-make-something-like-code-geass-/.147482

What's her ethnicity?

>>279665552
Is this true?

>>279668011
>What's her ethnicity?
Pure SEXO

Here's my theory why nobody can recognise Zero's voice as that of Lelouch: he is a theatre kid through and through and learnt how to speak in accents. As Zero, he probably makes speeches in Glaswegian or sounds like a hick from Donegal.

>>279668011
Cuban race mix. Was Britannia involved in the slave trade in the CG universe?

>>279668084
Londonese

>>279668011
>>279668393
>>279668084
>>279668687
How is she part of the pure Bloods when she's probably not even White?

>>279668852
A bunch of Britannians are brown

>>279668914
And somehow she supposed to be British but the Japanese are numbers instead. it's also known as those people for me when they're not a high ranking prominent member of the we need to be an even more Super racist faction.Like it's a pure blood spoke to her badly that will make sense to me even if they weren't supposed to but the brown girl being a prominent high ranking member that don't make sense.

>>279663121
yeah no those chimpouts in Balkans was barely a big scale war and no Serbs and albos going ham with ethnic cleansings doesn't increase its scale. none of this affected the continent at all. meanwhile some nations still haven't recovered demographics after WW2

>>279669033
The last I checked and the last time the world checked was a few years ago the Jewish global population is still less than before the Holocaust.

>>279668983
I presume it's because the brown high ranking "full blooded" Britannians are descendants of native Americans who were allied with the British and basically integrated into Britannian society. Washington's Rebellion still happened in the Code Geass universe but it failed.

>>279665171
he had literally just used his geass to confirm clovis didn't know shit and was not involved. he basically just killed him for shits and giggles.

>>279669083
dunno one would think there are plenty of them considering they find new holocaust survivors every year even today.

>>279669117
To be fair his half brother did commit a massive war crime that day in the ghetto.
>>279669155
What do you mean find new ones they have occasionally updated the list of financial abuse from the Holocaust web switch Banks and such not given money to dead people's descendants because we got no proof that dad never mind maybe over 100 right now meanwhile. Meanwhile a bunch of Holocaust deniers and people who are on Hitler's side who arguably haven't stopped trying to finish the Holocaust since World War II have more than double their Refugee population with completely new refugees who are now like 5th generation refugees now. I'd be a lot more concerned about the UN giving those 5th generation refugees money then people trying to get the grandfather's money back from a government who really should have given it back decades ago.

>>279669221
>>279669117
>inb4 he killed him to 'test his capacity' or some other chuuni Naruto bullshit

>>279669929
No he killed him because back then he was an emotional retard. I really don't see the problem with him killing Clovis plot wise, it was never implied lelouch is some infallible human being

>>279669976
I do have a problem with it, since he had never killed before (with his own hands - telling the soldiers to off themselves was a test and doesn't have the same impact), so it shouldn't come easy to him at all. Especially since it was somebody he personally knew and spent childhood with. There is no feeling of 'let justice be done' either, since Clovis is mostly inept, a neurotic artfag, and his genocidal tendencies (cleansing the ghetto) are on the same level or lower than Cornelia's - he was never a serious threat or particularly deserving of 'divine punishment' when you compare them with the rest of the royal family. Lelouch never had a problem with offing randos, but killing his half-brother should have made him hesitate and try to spam Clovis with Geass orders first. Blasting Clovis' head off should have been the last resort he did as the panic mode (from not being able to use Geass twice) was setting in.

>>279670348
>telling the soldiers to off themselves was a test and doesn't have the same impact
Nice cop out right at the beginning lmfao

>>279670420
It truly doesn't. Same as ordering an execution and carrying out the execution yourself. Are you trying to tell me that some teenage non-combatant who's lived a sheltered life is somehow emotionally and mentally capable of cartel-style atrocities out of the blue?

>>279668014
No, he's full of shit

>>279671513
Euphy dying made me seethe so fucking much

>>279671513
Suzaku deserved to impregnate Euphie with multiple kids

>>279671769
See >>279662586

>>279615461 (OP)
How would the SAZ go if Euphy didn't die? How long would it last? Would it even work out?

>>279672090
>How long would it last?
Until Charles ACKs everybody with his collective consciousness thingy

>>279615461 (OP)
>does nothing to change the system
He found likeminded individuals(Euphy) and assisted them. Only reason he was really able to get that far is due to the opportunities Lelouch provided him and being extremely lucky to meet Euphy and Lloyd. If Lelouch hadn't started shit he would still be a grunt with no chance of ever rising through the ranks.

>>279657648
His suicidal impulse's was a deep down thing. If was as simple as just wanting someone to kill him, damn everything else he wouldn't have fought as hard in the Lancelot as he did, he would have just let Ougi's squad in their Knightmare's kill him without resistance in episode 2.

>>279657354
I don't think they cared because unlike Evangelion it was not going to be pulled off. They don't even really fully explain what it is. People assume it's like Evangelion where everyone gets Tanged but they never actually say that in story.

>>279632374
The Shinkirou? That's based on the Gawain he stole from Schnitzel in S1, and he had Rakshata working for him.

>>279660322
Can somebody give me a QRD on Creayus.
Literally 37 booru pages of c.c. for like 10-15 years.

Is he mindbroken? It's a she? Why is she so dedicated to drawing C.C.

>>279659959
TIL Iraquis call Burgerstan "The Great Satan" KEK

>>279669083
>>279669221
Grandpa's missing money? It's hidden under the fake chimney along with 6 gorillions worth of cosmic dust and shoes.

>>279677003
They are a woman. And C.C. is a blank template enough for her to headcanon whatever personality she wants into her. Her artwork of her is nothing like the real C.C. as you would notice.

Why C.C. in particular? She's kinda like your standard Female MC in some sort of dark drama. Maybe she's bisexual. Lelouch is essentially an edgy byronic hero good-bad boy that every woman shlicks to in their romance novel. C.C. exists in a dynamic and premise that is very attractive to women.