What are our honest thoughts on romance manga?

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>>279615780 (OP)
The genre was never good.

>>279615780 (OP)
All the romance manga I liked ended so I'm done with them

romance where relationships are actually explored: good
romance where it's a constant will they/wont they until the finale: bad

Can't relate, I have never love

>>279615780 (OP)
it's just cringe at some point
might be ok when ur a teenager but as an adult? nobody sane reads that shit

>>279615780 (OP)
The japanese are way too cucked to ever produce good romance so it forever stays in this really shameful spot in the genre

>>279615780 (OP)
unique CoUPle

>>279615780 (OP)
Favorite and best superseding genre. Always has been always will be.

>all the boring hate (samefag)posts
boriiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiing hope you fags do the same for battle shonen thread #2312893210
>>279615780 (OP)
>honest thoughts on romance manga
If that includes romance comdies, then it's probably my most read manga genre. i'm a simply guy and chill romcoms do the trick in that regard, plus im a lil bit of a romantic anyway so it fits.

>>279615780 (OP)
The only good romances are triangles/harem that end with only one winner, everything else is just wish fulfillment garbage

>>279616468
>the only thing thing is pointless and endless drama where the totally not main girl is totally not gonna win by the very end 400 pages in
you sound like a fucking woman

I like Dandadan.

Council thread?
Ojousama no Shimobe ended and somehow best girl won.

>>279615780 (OP)
Romance where relationships are actually explored: good
Romance involving used goods, tragedy, cheating, or rape: kill it with fire

I love em, I mostly read them, even when I read an Isekai is more often to see romance rather than the fighting shit, I have only recently started reading one Blood Blockade Battlefront when I haven't read one since...not counting a korean one April of last year.

Subaru to Suu-san finally got fully translated, is beautifully drawn and has an interesting premise that is used for legitimate story hooks and not as a fetish (which wouldn't necessarily be a bad thing).
I like the easy ones and the complex ones, I'd like to find more good Josei Manga but is hard to wade through them, too many of them that are female wish fullfillment that look like 50 shades of Grey.

>>279615904
This and anyone who says that only the latter work are insane.
>>279615891
Not even curious to see what those authors are doing nowadays?
>>279616789
I am starting to feel pity for the girl because the guy seems to have some genuine autism going on.

>>279616545
t. seething self-inserter

>>279616960
>t. redditor
>>279616853
>t. obvious incel that constantly screams about Ts and "used goods" like the seafag he is while constantly reading ntr and bbc

>>279616960
Kill yourself.

Wish somebody translated this.
>>279616743
Give me your review anon, I disliked Maga-Tsuki because it was another case of a abusive harem, (unlike Messenger of the Sea, one of the best harem Manga ever) but still wanted to give it a chance, you see my problem with harems is not that a single girl win, is that they usually don't have a lot of romance, is just a bunch of frustrated abrasive girls and awkward moments until the last 2 chapters.
A girl won here, but....do they actually enjoy their time together? Is it 155 chapters of "will they won't they"?

>>279617037
>t. redditor
Yes, them and self-inseters are the same group

>>279616468
I actually agree. Not that there can't be any stories that involve unrequited feelings, or girls not being chosen, but the stories that have happy harem ends are unequivocally the best ones.

>>279617037
Are you trying to shame me for not being with real women or something? I don't get it. Yes, I find real women absolutely disgusting, so I want nothing to do with them. Fictional women don't have to be realistic, which is why I like them. Fictional women can be loyal, sane, and cute virgins, unless the author unnecessarily decides otherwise.

>>279616926
>Not even curious to see what those authors are doing nowadays?
Not especially, honestly. I've got plenty of other things to read or do but if they ever drum anything up to catch my attention I'll probably check it out to see.

>>279615780 (OP)
It's good as long as you take everything as a comedy, they turn into shit when they try to take themselves seriously.

>>279615780 (OP)
it's all i read. this isnt even everything i read since i only started my account 2 years ago but have been reading manga for 10.

>>279617754
Based. I just wish 90% of it wasn't high school slop, mostly because a lot of it is extremely samey and boring if it doesn't have some fetish or other thing you're interested in. Yes yes I know it's what their youth cares about but man.

>>279615832
Dop

>>279617887
i somewhat enjoy the highschool manga that are all similar as long as it's spaced out between different manga instead of back-to-back-to-back since it can grow old quick, but it is tough to try to find somewhat unique settings sometimes.
the main thing i can't get into is female protagonists/maincharacters unless the setting is really unique and the synopsis leads me to believe it won't make me pull my hair out. just can't handle how most of them are, and that limits new manga to read significantly.

>>279618121
>since it can grow old quick
That's why I'm happy with my current tomboy/handsome girl binge, it's something simple but effective that keeps me going and satisfied.
>i can't get into is female protagonists
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e9mVfv3b-4E

>>279617887
>2 adults
>been together for 2 years
>never even kissed
Authors can fuck things up even with adults, Manga can feel like is written by a stunted toddler sometimes.

>>279618394
>Authors can fuck things up even with adults
Didn't say they didn't, the "more adult sub genre" is far from perfect or ideal. But the topic itself already makes sure that things are (hopefully) bound to be at least a little bit better due to the characters having to be adults. My assumption is that a fuck ton of the romcom mangaka are either loveless turds like us or only had minor experience. So little romcoms with couples that are already together, in their high love time, when things are still very much curious and interesting. Instead all goddamn romcoms end the moment the couple gets together after 400+ chapter of slog, trillion misunderstandings and other shite. to waste time and keep the money rolling.

>>279618394
Authors are far more likely to fuck things up with adults I'd say. With adult characters there's a really high chance that the female protag is used goods, or there's ntr or cheating involved.

Honestly I've been burned so many times at this point that I'm now only reading mango that has been fully completed and I can go read plot spoilers before picking it up.

>Everyone else: Having chill fun
>Random seafag anon: DUDE NTR BBC KEK USED GOODS AAAAAAAAAAA
every
single
fucking
time

>>279618540
>everyone's having fun
OP's pic is literally bait retard.

>>279618540
Why are you so obsessed with nigger dicks? That can't be healthy man.

>>279618191
>tomboy/handsome girl binge
any you'd recommend? im always looking for series to read.

>>279618515
>only read mango thats fully completed+check spoilers
i do the same, but i mostly just check tags on mangaupdates and 1-2 reviews without trying to spoil the entire story while trying to make sure it doesn't turn into cheating/ntr. luckily, im retarded and can forget most reviews after a week or two so then i can read the manga without remembering the spoilers besides no ntr/cheating.

gay as fuck. A real man can't watch/read this.

>>279618615
Dunno you tell me you started talking about used goods you obsessed 41% sharteen freak
>>279618604
You're a part of the problem newfaggot

>>279618632
Really? I read spoilers specifically to BE spoiled. If I wanted to avoid spoilers I'd be doing the same thing as you, but I don't. I suppose it's the normie part of me, but like most people, I do like stories more when I know exactly what's going to happen.

Love triangles are not good and despite being here for so long, I only understand the appeal less every year.

>>279618643
Not quoted but Anjou-san literally starts with evil faceless mobs going on about preferring virgin girls and le enlightened MC takes a brave stand by saying it doesn't matter if a girl has sucked 57 cocks in a row just before kissing you because girls aren't cups ya know and you hardly notice the semen on her breath.
Going on about used goods in response to that is on-topic if anything.

>>279618643
I started talking about used goods because I hate sluts, and romance is sweeter when the girl is a virgin. You're the one who brought up niggerdicks.

>>279617188
There's no abusive tsundere in it. It's about a guy taking care of two helpless ojousamas who can't even get dressed by themselves (one out of retardation, the other is just lazy).

You will get about 150 chapters of will they won't they and only a decision in the third to last chapter.

I'd say read 5 chapters, it keeps the formula pretty static until the end. It's just dumb fun.

There's a cameo of the maga-tsuki gang near the end too.

>>279618483
>My assumption is that a fuck ton of the romcom mangaka are either loveless turds like us or only had minor experience
I think one can write about Alaska without having visited the place, I mean when I was given a job to write about insects, I studied those insects, because there is so much stuff available, Mangaka that draw had to study to improve....why can't they do the same when writing a story?
>>279618515
>I'm now only reading mango that has been fully completed and I can go read plot spoilers before picking it up.
I have over 300 titles that I won't read until they are finished, unfortunately I have been burned before and infact I had to remove various titles recently because the author crashed the story.
However I don't have a problem with "used goods" and honestly wish Manga explored the topic more, recently I have seen a handful of titles that made it their premise but flunked it completely and ended up poisoning the wheel, making people who don't like the idea simply re-affirm that belief.
Like that one where the girl had sex with her teacher (BAD) and then even went back to study with him (ultra BAD) and even left the MC for a while (awful) and in the end they never even had sex, making it feel like he is the guy with whom she can settle down and t whom doesn't have to give much of herself.
I would recommend "Changes of heart" for a Josei with almost no stupid drama (just a short bit toward the end), two mature lead, both with past relationships whose love doesn't get swayed by others despite their attempts, for a story where they are both used goods because afraid of losing each other's friendship.

>>279618632
>any you'd recommend?
Uhhhhhhhh have a random stream of conscious from my phone (tachiyomi)
akanabe sensei, akabe chan, kakkoi onnanoko, osoraku kanojo (not quite either, but shes cool so whatever), ouji sama no tomodachi, hatsu kano hatsu kare (oneshot), marumaru na kanojo (cancelled to hell trilogy of sorts), nishimori-san chi no (oneshot)
>>279591248 and anything around that (more being discovered as we speak in the thread)
There is some Gyaru content I have on my list too, but that's more messy and not quite as recent.
>>279618719
The only purpose for love triangles are either the oh so hated ""wish fullfillment"", or to create endless drama which woman fucking LOOOOOOOOOOOVE.
>>279618821
You can write about it, sure, but sooner or later it's going to shine through that you either lack the experience, or aren't very creative about what you're doing with it. It can become a negative problem is what I'm trying to say, which can very quickly end up being samey or annoying.

>>279618540
NTR and used goods have never been acceptable, newfag. Lurk for 10 more years.
>BBC
Mindbroken.

>>279615780 (OP)
That's the one genre I can't get into. There is one romance manga that I like, every other one is just unreadable for me because one or more of these points
>guy is a generic yasashii loser with no personality
>girl is an unlikeable slut
>forced love triangles
>the obligatory ntr-bait arc
>no physical display of affection, you are lucky if you get a kiss near the end
>no progress despite the characters clearly being into each other
>timeskip to wedding immediately after confession
I'm too old to watch highschoolers doing nothing for 300 chapters.

>>279618716
i like being surprised in a story, but i hate being surprised with cheating/ntr/a few other things. i dont care if the plot is so predictable that i can see most of the journey/ending from 100chapters away as long as it's entertaining.

>>279618861
thanks for the recommendations. i'll check them out.
>gyaru
those are fun too. it's nice how sometimes 1 gyaru manga can lead you to finding 10 more gyaru manga.

>>279618861
>The only purpose for love triangles are either the oh so hated ""wish fullfillment"", or to create endless drama which woman fucking LOOOOOOOOOOOVE.
So do men, clearly. They fucking love rejection scenes where someone "has to get it out of their system, just to get a "gomen" and then cry about it. It's dogshit.

I don't trust anon's opinion about romcoms. Oversimplified garbage.

>>279618933
>So do men, clearly.
I mean, I guess they must, considering how much male written shit has this trash as a topic, or it's a weird attempt to attract female reader fuck I know. It's trash and annoying either way, nearly ALWAYS pointless as well since the main girl is always known and WILL ALWAYS WIN. The whole "CF always lose" thing became a meme so much for a reason, hell I saw a manga I'm reading even openly reference it some days ago.
>>279618928
>i'll check them out.
Hope ya can get something out of it, it's just random stuff as mentioned. I remember there being 2-3 other handsome girl type suff, but my library is completely fucked so finding it is a bit of a pain.
>sometimes 1 gyaru manga can lead you to finding 10 more gyaru manga.
I'd like to coin the term "Pixiv Problem". Anyone that has ever followed an artist on pixiv should be able to guess what I'm talking about. One artist leads to at least 2-5 others, opening a black hole.

>>279618821
I do however have a problem with used goods, and I don't really care what justification is used. It can be a cheap thrill, or love, or even rape. If the heroine has had someone else's dick in her, she's dead to me. I don't care one bit if it's unrealistic or immature. It's fiction, it doesn't have to be realistic. That's one of the main draws in fact. And what people consider mature is often synonymous with unjust, disgusting or unpleasant to me.

Thanks for the recommendation but that sounds absolutely atrocious and I'll stay well the fuck away.

>>279618902
understandable, is tough but I think is still worth the hassle of looking through the trash to find gems.
Have you tried reading
>14 Sai No Koi
>The dangers in my heart
>The Perks of Working in the Black Magic Industry
>Sweat and Soap
>Meika san can't conceal her emotions
>Extremely straightforward boyfriend X Girlfriend
>How to grill our love
>Kono Kaisha ni Suki na Hito ga Imasu
>Sesame Salt Pudding
>Hajimete Datteba
>Itoshi no Kana

>>279619246
>Image
Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa what a wonderful read that thing was, not to mention the spin offs. Like holy shit, one of the best for sure, fuck anyone that disagrees with my vanilla ass free to have opinion.

>>279619282
I haven't read the lesbian spinoff, but the teacher spinoff left me sour, because it didn't add conclude the actual story, it was just more of what we saw in the mainline, I don't even know why the author bothered. If the age was a problem (it wasn't in GAME OVER) it could have set the entire spinoff in a timeskip, it did not even feel like it was done by the same author, outside of the art it had nothing of what I loved from 14 sai.......wonder what she is drawing

>>279619449
>I haven't read the lesbian spinoff
Thaaaaaaat one is a bit weirder, as you'd expect of yuri shite. The other two are pretty fun though I think, esp bus-kun.
>the teacher spinoff left me sour
My fave couple due to the topic, but man the ending was... ehhhhhh. Felt oddly rushed, like someone forced things to finish up.
>it had nothing of what I loved from 14 sai
To be fair that thing something really special if you ask me, but I lack the experience compared to others so what do I know. Let's just say some of the spin offs are hit or miss, but what isn't compared to the mainline plot.

>>279615780 (OP)
It's alright but usually disappointing. I like it when it's doing something original or if it's an actual lighthearted treatment of youthful romance, but most of the drama I see usually feels badly forced beyond the way that young people tend to have exaggerated reactions to their romantic problems.
Adult romance I just plain don't understand and can't suspend disbelief enough to enjoy, because as a man well into middle age I don't understand how anyone has the time or energy to pursue it, and when it's between coworkers I'm too horrified by it because I'd never shit where I eat.

>>279619246
>14 Sai No Koi
>Boyfriend × Girlfriend
>How to grill our love
>Kono Kaisha ni Suki
Was afraid I don't know anything of this list, thankfully I've read some of these already.
>The dangers in my heart
That thing actually worth the time? Only ever seen random /a/nime only screenshots, never anything beyond that.
>Kono Kaisha ni Suki
For the hell of it: How ya feeling about this new apartment thing?

>>279615780 (OP)
Genre for grown up people

>>279615780 (OP)
Please tell me she rejects him.

>>279618928
Alright, if you like surprises, then you do you. But I have a sneaking suspicion that you'd enjoy a story more if you knew full well how it ends and what the major plot points are. That's how it is for me.

>>279615780 (OP)
Unrealistic. All mangakas are virgins and thus no nothing of human relationships.

>>279618540
Obssesed retard

>>279620195
>>279620211
incel bot poster shitting up a thread once again imagine my shock

>>279620211
You don't need to know magic to write a good fantasy story.

>>279620196
Are you two really arguing about spoiler vs no spoiler, a discussion older than the internet itself? Come on now, I know that the journey itself is what matters most, but you need to respect that the vast majority of people still enjoy their spoiler free experience, hell some (shit) movies straight depend on it.

>>279618632
I read the wiki/summary too see if any of the guys have some love triangles with the main girl, so I can throw it to the trash. But a trained eye can detect NTR by just looking at the artstyle.

>>279615780 (OP)
Depends entirely on the content, and for how long it runs.

>>279620211
Ironically, it's sexually-minded people who write the worst romance since they make sex the grounds upon which the romance is built or infect the romance with sexuality.

The thing that I don't feel japanese often can get right is the sort of innocent love between teens.

I mean look at "A goofy movie", Max and Roxanne interactions are cute and innocent, you can feel that they are both trying to get closer to each other, like seeing two cute puppy dogs interact.

Now compare that to something that has been going on for a long time like "my charms are wasted on Medaka kun", at 159 chapters they can't even talk normally to one another, a sort of confession finally happens in chapter 174 and then the girl says that it was a prank.
I mean in this case it lacks that sort of innocence and love, it feels aggravating, artificial, unbelievable, inconsistent, it gives off that sort of second hand embarassment like trying to see Speedrunner autists trying to be funny.

>>279620084
>For the hell of it: How ya feeling about this new apartment thing?
I barely started it, I am reading too many things at once, I went back to try and finish the shorter things.
>That thing actually worth the time?
I think so, because the characters actually grow, the author doesn't try to introduce drama with harems or triangle sheninigans, it starts in a way that may seem predictable with the girl looking like some kind of Idol but actually being a typical girl with typical flaws, it doesn't put her on a pedestal.....maybe try watching the anime and then if you like it read the rest.

>>279620328
Yeah, most people mistakenly believe that they enjoy a story more without spoilers. They've tested that, and people who have had the story spoiled enjoy it more. People are just hung on the false belief that le epic unforeseen plot twists improve a story.

https://www.universityofcalifornia.edu/news/spoiler-alert-spoilers-make-you-enjoy-stories-more

If you want to make sure you love a story, don't avoid spoilers. Run towards them.

>>279616468
>triangles/harem
What's the point when there's always an obvious winner?

>>279620407
Not to get into this discussion in a serious fashion, but... Come on now, that Goofy thing was a bit of a milestone from what I understand and remember, quite a special movie in general, western or not.
>I went back to try and finish the shorter things.
Fair enough.
>I think so
Considering your other picks, you can't be that wrong here either... gonna throw it onto the list at least. Thanks!
>if you like it read the rest.
In the vast majority of cases I actually prefer to read the manga, more chill and at my own speed an all that.
>>279620434
>le study says this and that
Studies also say that eggs are evil, while another study a day after says the opposite.
Who the hell cares lmao? Let people enjoy things their way, stop forcing them one way or another because of some darn study or whatever. Each their own and all that, buddy.

>>279620335
I hope am not misrepresenting your idea, but I might feel the same way, I mean I don't like when a romcom is filled with ecchi but in a way that doesn't contribute to the narrative, for example "Sora no Otoshimono" the ecchi moment usually just create more friction between characters, is the typical "oh you saw me naked I'll bash your head ah ah", or "Dress up darling" which made a big deal about the girl's sex appeal, one chapter had the guy get a boner from her and then........he can't even bring himself to hold hands with her in public, how can that be enjoyable to watch?
I far enjoy a romance like Houkago Kitaku Biyori, despite the fact that they are still not together and there is no ecchi whatsoever the lead feels closer than it ever did in Dress up darling and many other 100+ chapters "romcoms".
>>279620474
Because readers have shit taste, "Medaka Kuroiwa is Impervious to My Charms" is 181 chapters plus an anime season, no signs of ending and a retracted confession, multiple girls despite the winner being in the title and the synopsys.

>>279618821
>However I don't have a problem with "used goods" and honestly wish Manga explored the topic more
Please no

>>279620599
forgot to mention the reason for why I posted that image.
Another thing I strongly dislike, Manga doing lampshading, they think is okay to have a pathetic character if they have someone point out how he is pathetic.......but author, YOU made him that way.

what is it with /a/ obsession and the phrase "used goods"? why cant we ever have a normal discussion about romcoms without some zoomer slop phrase?

>>279620662
Then talk about whatever you want to discuss without throwing a melty, retard.

>>279620687
ive been doing that all thread you obsessed freak. im not the one that brought this zoomer shit up to begin with that was you

>>279620704
I just got into the thread, dumb schizo. If you don't want to talk about something then don't mention it. This is not your personal hugbox.

>>279620525
Stories aren't eggs though. A study about foodstuffs suitable for human consumption has way more moving parts, for example whether the authors buy into the hoax propagated by ancel keys, or whether they understand that cholesterol is not something you need to be weary of, unless you shove your gab full of sneed oils and sugar and end up in a chronic state of inflammation.

A study on whether people enjoyed it is much simpler, and it's far easier to follow good scientific practices. You can read the methodology yourself, and I think if you're being reasonable, you'll find it difficult to argue against how they conducted the study.

I'm all for letting people enjoy art however they please (unless it involves tragedy/cheating/ntr, in which case they should die), I'm just informing them that there may be a way for them to enjoy stories that would result in them enjoying the story even more.

>>279615780 (OP)
They can be cute and heal a hurt soul.
Today I read this and it was cute the short interactions between them. There should have been more about them being cute than the drama arround them.
This artist is really keen on woman being bullies tho.

>>279620841
>She bullied me because I was being nice to her, while being fat

>>279620881
Actually this time it was the girl being bullied

Romantic manga (and RomCom) are the huge mayority of manga besides shonen manga.
That said, the good ones are just a few

Never had a romance and never will.
I live my love life reading manga

>>279620963
Oh good lord my bad in that case lmao, that's even worse because woman are fucking vicious
>>279620995
VERY cute manga, very happy that I found it when /a/ talked about ch 1-2 or whatever it was back then. Plenty of moments that actually have me figuratively jump out of my chair
>>279621030
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rvJsG4F2Img
>>279621106
Ayyy another one of my faves! Love teacher, Like age gap, combine both (and add a super chill gyaru) and you got a winner!

>>279620995
Jitsu wa author? I haven't read anything by him since that.

>>279621191
>>279621151
Yes, a new manga. Kesa Mo Yuraretemasu.
Quite cute.

>>279621321
Getting over the eyes (for her) was a bit of a challenge at first, but man was it worth it in the long run
Honestly shocked they finally got to properly talk, let's hope this means things will increase in speed a bit, even if only so the manga won't get cancelled lmao

>>279621372
>My Older Sister's Friend
>Gyaru
Say no more! While I'm at it: Batsu-Gyaru, Asa no Tsuukin, Chika Idol wo Kage and Ota x Nail

>>279619075
>pixiv problem
i used to have that problem when i started reading manga which made it hard to stop, but nowadays it all leads back to manga i've already read or ones i've decided i'll never read lol.

>>279621842
Lucky you. For me it just leads down to more lewds, meaning that I have to make a conscious effort to say "stop, no more" and close the tab.

>>279619246
>14 sai no koi
i've always thought about reading it but haven't due to the multiple couples thing since it tends to just take time away from the 1 couple that's good and give it to ones i dont care about. seems it must be pretty good eh?

>>279616468
Tranny tier tastes.

>>279616960
When you neglect to make it a quote you are saying that you are the seething self-inserter.

>>279615780 (OP)
The best always have a little NTR spice.

Any recommendations for good romance anime/manga? Ive watched/read kaguya-sama and horimiya. I liked Kaguya-sama (except for the ending) and thought horimiya was... okay?

>>279622732
chisaxpon

>>279622732
bro we have multiple people posting recommendations come on

>>279622732
Densetsu no Yuusha no Konkatsu

>>279621372
I wish I had more help with translating this guy's previous work (which is finished).

>>279622732
Ase to Sekken, this and the first half of Kaguya are the only romance manga I actually enjoyed.
Do not touch this one >>279622742
Anon is trolling you

>>279622221
It is, the main couple is good from the start and all the way to the end...alas don't bother with the yuri spinoff and Harmony, but do read Game Over....infact you may even read that first to get a shorter but intense taste of the writer's style.

>>279622732
Not all of them here have romance.

>>279623904
i read gameover a long time ago and liked it. just never tried the main manga.

>>279622742
>>279623229
>>279623319
>>279623877
>>279623904

Thanks friends. I'll be looking into them. While im at it, is nagatoro and uzaki-chan worth getting into?

I guess im kinda interested in the artstyle, character designs, etc.. Though i hate the pussy main character of nagatoro. Apparently Uzaki-chans MC is not a pussy, which is cool. Normally i only enjoy romance, if its not the ONLY aspect of the story, like Grand Blue

>>279624131
Oh yeah, i also really like a unique or cool relationship between the love interests. Like how in kaguya-sama, both are trying to one-up the other / are rivals.

>>279624131
>uzaki-chan
That one is still going and the couple is sexually active (but you don't see anything at all) althought I am not very interested in it myself.
>nagatoro
While I think it took too long and the ending could have had more, being able to read throught it as a finished thing makes it more enjoyable, some parts go for a bit too long but is fairly enjoyable and the FeMC is better than a lot of tsunderes, she stops being overly aggressive quite soon.

Seeing as this is the romance thread and people are throwing around recommendations, are there any good ones with a polygamy/harem end? Off the top of my head I can only remember honeymoon salad and umi no misaki that had proper harem endings.

>>279624515
>umi no misaki
I miss that dearly and wonder if I will find something as good that isn't just an isekai harem (which I enjoy but for different reasons).

>>279624191
>unique/cool relationships
im not quite sure if i understand the exact request but here are some that aren't just your standard romcoms.
Kimi no Koto nado Zettai ni, Chou Dokyuu Shoujo 4946, Koharu no Hibi, Midori no Hibi, Miman Renai, Tonari no Baka to Tsudzuku Uso, Scorching Romance (manhwa), Osananajimi ga Mamasugite Tsurai to name just a few since im not sure exactly what you want.

>>279615780 (OP)
pretty much the only manga i read nowadays, but i like them with a bit of spice (no ntr but yes drama)
still i'm reading a few mild ones like houkago kitaku biyori and mayoka heart tune (only harem that's actually managed to hook me up)
also makeine (ln)

>>279620293
Why would you assume a fantasy story would have magic? You're making their point, you only have second hand knowledge on how things supposedly work and don't really understand why things work as they do.

>>279615780 (OP)
>has a better romance than both Nagatoro and kanokari
>still going
How did they do it?

>>279627916
Gyaru. The answer is always: Gyaru. I think

>>279626121
How old are you?

>>279628081
Is she one of the trendy pure gyaru or just a regular used gyaru?

>>279628086
NTA but why do you ask?

>>279628110
obsessed

>>279628167
All men of culture are obsessed with the purity of girls. They're special.

For a period of about 6 years I read almost exclusively yuri romance. I absolutely love it. I read a lot of yuri doujinshi, and several excellent series. I read probably 10 or more one shots every night. Asagao to Kase-san and Aoi Hana stand out in memory. This started as horny and turned into a passion. I still love yuri and I also like other forms of romance. Romance is great. I don't read the genre anymore, really, but I'm always happy for it's inclusion in other stories.

>>279628167
Your silence means she's trash then

>>279628313
When I was a teen I used to consume yuri romance almost exclusively. Now I almost feel disgust towards it because it reminds me to the stage of my life.

>>279615780 (OP)
I only like really trashy romcoms like oreimo and kodomo no jikan. LiterallyMy guilty pleasure though.
As far as "real" romcoms? No I do not like them

>>279628209
Don't expect simps and failed normalfags to be men of culture.

>>279628086
NTA but 25 and a doctor

>>279628209
Yeah, just like NTR fans. Interestingly, there's a lot of overlap between both of them. "Special" indeed.

>>279615780 (OP)
For the love of god, stop the same age bullshit
I'm sick of it
Explore actual relationships for once

>>279628905
Wanting a girl to dedicate herself to a single man is the exact opposite of NTR.

>>279615780 (OP)
I will always love romcoms. Always.

>>279615780 (OP)
Shit unless it's age gap and it's adult/young adult man with teen girl

>>279629200
I will not if it involves used goods, cheating or ntr.

>>279628209
Incels you mean. Funny thing is when you are only focused in purity you discard personality. Then here comes a fun slut that catches your attention since she's more interesting than the doormat. And there you go cheating on your pure waifu. We know it, you know it. Real men enjoy the adventurez that's why historically sluts are the ones that have made kingdom falls. It's on your blood anon. Try to find a middle point or you are gonna have a hard time.

>>279629275
are these so called used goods in the room with us right now?

>>279629275
I'm pretty sure you have explored those themes when your favorites get boring or unexciting. You are free to lie to me tho.

>>279615780 (OP)
shounen except without the action

posts in this thread sure got hella retarded the moment the europoors started waking up

>>279629275
Based, used goods are trash

For some reason those two words trigger some schizo so I'll play along

>>279628209
Cucks don't understand this simple concept.

>>279615780 (OP)
Most of them are really more unrealistic than fantasy stories. Trashy, clumsy, retarded and a waste of time to read.

>nooo im not the schizo YOU are!
really wish you sharties would get some new material for shitting up good threads people are enjoying

>>279629288
this sounds like the female brain trying to reason

>>279629288
Real men don't read romcoms or simp for sluts. You wouldn't know of course since you're just an incel.

>>279629249
Those are shit too, because they are often ruined by blue ball endings, moralfagging, lack of or delayed progress, all to compensate the current artificial "ickiness"

>>279629288
This is what having a cuck as a father figure does to a mf

>>279615780 (OP)
I really like romance as a secondary genre but pure romance manga are all sleep inducing at best and medical anesthesia at worst. Even godawful shonenshit romances get me more invested than the average romance manga.

>>279629391
That's the reality anon. Have you only read pure vanilla? Yup, that's what I thought.

>>279629393
>No u
You know it's true anon, doormats are boring. Nobody is telling you to simp for a slut. But there's a middle point you are gonna have to find. The only men that simp for pure virgins, have never got one. Being for of yourself by being ignorant makes you seem like a total nicely. lol

>>279629200
I took a quick look at this manga and it reminded me why I don't read romcoms.

>>279629494
I dont listen to this kinda female thinking

>>279615780 (OP)
>romance dramas
99% ragebait garbage
>romcoms and harems
99% blue balls shit that goes no where
>magic girlfriend
99% beta male leads who never do anything (occasionally there are exceptions like pic related)

I feel like there hasn't been a genuinely good romance manga written in over a decade.

>>279629494
Said who? An incel in a mongolian anime forum? The middle point is not being a retard like you lol I'm not willing to take another man trash like pathetic man like you do.

>>279629494
Doormats aren't boring. You are too boring to make them open to you. Just be a good cuck like your father and settle for some second hand good, loser.

>>279629434
Lol. It seems I striked a chord on purityfags. Face it, you don't only consume pure vanilla. And the more you try to lean on one side that hard. The more you're gonna bounce to the other one the hardest. I'm sure you have read worst NTR shit than me when I barely give a shit about it. :^)

love this slut so much

>>279629588
>sister content in a romcom thread
finally someone with TASTE

>>279629522
>>279629536
>>279629561
You are all malding and it's hella fun. :^) Stop projecting also. You sound like you are secretly into NTR and have read that shit seriously. But cope all you want lol.

>>279629571
I don't. It really sounds like you're projecting your own limitations. If you're a mediocre porn addict that's on you.

>>279629611
very convincing

>>279629611
>obsessed with ntr
[insert image of man crying behind a laughing mask]

>>279629611
Hahhaha guys it's so funny and wacky lol I'm not mad at all :P

Stop humiliating yourself dude

>279629613
>279629633
>279629643
You won't get more yous, seething only proves my point. Bye CHADS. Lol.

>>279629673
So you were actually malding and not having fun. What a surprise

>>279629588
I hope she gets with another man while her brother has to listen in the other room

>>279629532
they make good romance manga every year, brother.

>>279622567
kys you waste of oxygen.

>>279629673
be more honest with yourself.

>>279629718
When was the last time you felt satisfied reading a romance manga, as if you'd just finished a gourmet lasagna dinner?

>>279629532
>feel like there hasn't been a genuinely good romance manga written in over a decade.
Sweat and Soap

You're right about everything else

>>279629733
go outside and take a few deep breaths lil bro

>>279629743
uhhh about a week ago? maybe it was 2.

>>279616789
the actual girl is so much better

>>279623904
>YKK
Wait, what?

Pretty much all male written romance manga are shit because the dude writing it has never spoken to a woman in his life and he can't get past that to write natural interactions. Most female writers tend to be unhinged in the opposite direction with the girl being a dead fish and the guy being a total sociopath. Very few I've been able to enjoy without massive suspension of disbelief. Boku Yaba after the two get together is about as good as it gets as far as I'm concerned, their romantic interactions are incredibly natural, especially when it gets physical. Japs are just such hopeless slaves to their social norms that very few of them can write something compelling.

>>279615780 (OP)
boring gay cringe

>>279630200
tell us what you really think.

>>279630200
Seething manlet detected

>>279630200
You don't need to write something realistic; you just need to write something interesting. The problem with male written romances is that the male leads are such insufferable faggots. The male characters in battle shounen are way more emotionally mature than the "men" in romance series.

>>279630200
>Favorite romcoms is Ichigo 100%
>Mangaka is a women
Anon is right.

>>279621321
>new manga from jitsuwa
OH MY GAWD

>>279615780 (OP)
Not really my cup of tea. I'm not really that romantic of a person.

>>279630346
>You don't need to write something realistic; you just need to write something interesting.
I'm not talking about realism, I wouldn't be reading manga if I wanted that. I'm talking about romantic interactions with a natural feel to them while not being held back too much by Jap autism, which Bokuyaba does indeed manage. Ichi being a chuuni dweeb is mostly played for laughs and once the two of them get their relationship going it's all good in the hood. They keep things private for multiple reasons, but those physical interactions are incredible, and they're not even having sex yet.

>romance manga by male author
almost always a harem or harem-like, and shit goes nowhere until the last chapter and sometimes not even that, male lead is an ultra cuck beta. exceptions are super rare
>romance manga by female author
almost always multiple girls and multiple boys in some sort of convoluted matrix that would require a neural network scientist to figure out, most of the male cast is suave as fuck, main girl is almost always a literal blank sheet so thirsty female readers can self insert as her

>>279630200
I don't think you know how men and women interact if you think that shit is decent.
Realism, or the lack of it, has never been a problem for anime. The issue with male writers is that they put all the effort into the girl and turn the guy into the most generic beta in existence.
Women writers make better protagonists by the fact that passive females are more desirable than passive males. And the psycho rapechads are entertaining. Their problem is their lack of commitment towards monogamy. Then th MC's passivity turns into an excuse to get manhandled by every bishounen that comes near her without looking like a slut. To be fair it's the same with male oriented romance but since I'm a guy it doesn't bother me that much.
Now add all the blue balling, misunderstandings and endless status quo. So yeah, romance sucks but it has nothing to do with realism.

>>279630457
>exceptions are super rare
Many harem MCs start out really flawed or cool but turn into bland retarded faggots 10 chapters in.
>main girl is almost always a literal blank sheet so thirsty female readers can self insert as her
She's usually the hottest chick in the manga (by visuals, not story) and is always the one who isn't nearly as bitchy as the other girls.

>>279630505
>passive females are more desirable than passive males.
It's time we changed this. We have the technology.

>>279630505
I'll say it again: we should just blackmail battle shounen authors into writing more romance. I'd seriously just like to see more romance series with male leads who have a spine, but without the hunter/hunted dynamic that comes from shoujo.

>>279630505
>To be fair it's the same with male oriented romance but since I'm a guy it doesn't bother me that much.
It took me a while to notice it. Harem protags from the outside looking in seem like massive assholes to lead on females and have zero loyalty until the last chapter.

this thread has too little shit-flinging
so post your
-age
-romantic partners to date
-favourite romcom
so everyone can dismiss your opinion

>>279630505
Again, where are you getting that I was talking about realism? Not once did I use that word, and the example I used is about as unrealistic a pairing as it gets. I'm talking about natural romantic interactions that aren't afraid to show physical affection in a positive and lighthearted way.

>>279630518
>She's usually the hottest chick in the manga
yes, so that the women reading this can say "she's totally me!" while believing they're also super cute/hot. however her personality is a blank sheet because otherwise thirsty women wouldn't be able to self insert as her. Her looks "don't matter", in a way.

>>279630545
If your mc’s existence revolves solely around plunging a stinky hole, which is necessarily the case in romance manga, he will be a boring faggot. That’s just the genre. Your standard shonen protag seems like a gigachad by comparison because he has actual goals and the story is actually about something

>>279630518
>She's usually the hottest chick in the manga (by visuals, not story) and is always the one who isn't nearly as bitchy as the other girls.
100% true every time lol
It's also funny because in /v/ideogames the female avatars are always hot bitches while the guys are plain dudes.

>>279630618
Everyone turns into an autist when romance is brought up, as if the genre necessarily requires will endless will they/won't they and teenage melodrama. Romance can take a hundred different forms, you know. Spice and Wolf is a romance. Is Lawrence boring?

>>279630656
NTA
But yes, he is

>>279626121
>mayoka heart tune
Is been around 80 chapters and with the MC having seemingly abandoned the idea of finding Apollo the love is too one sided.

>>279629588
I'll read it when is done, because while the author knows people are coming in for incest and sex, I doubt we will see neither.
>>279630200
>Japs are just such hopeless slaves to their social norms
I think is not JUST social norms but tropes, is like they feel compelled to have them.
pic related, has the guy surrounded by girls, he made things clear that he is not interested them minus 1 and then we still get harem sheninigans, the author baited us with progress.

>>279630687
What about Sakuta?

>>279630689
>the love is too one sided.
This. The MC is cooler and more enjoyable than most manga but he genuinely treats all the girls like they're little kids and not worth even entertaining.

Easy solution

Mix the romance the with some hobby or supernatural event
Make the male mc handsome and assertive, with his own goals and fears
Craft a virgin heroine and roll for a random personality, but make her the hottest girl
Pair them together before the first half of the series
Kill your editor if he/she ever suggests adding a love triangle
Add physicality in the relationship
There should be at least one sex scene every volume

You see? Absolutely everyone is happy now

>>279630747
To add to Boeing anon, I think it risk veering into what is just another harem trope, where the MC is "too cool for romance" and then why am I supposed to enjoy it? Because I secretly want all that attention without the effort? Like a narcissist?

Has there ever been a shoujo or josei series that was a harem? Note, I don't mean reverse harem, but a legitimate harem.

I like them. I need more Makoto Ojiro stories, they fill my soul with a longing that I can’t get from any other romance. Ojiro needs to ditch that woman she’s working with and give me more love stories.

>>279630864
What is she working on......also wonder why she wasted time on that funless "comedy".

>>279630858
Kinda. There is one about a rostie that had money issues so she marries a guy who already had two wives. Both of them have their own character arc and one fucks her ex. Typical josei stuff.

>>279630714
That show is so dumb

>>279630858
There's that one with the snek /a/ seems to love but does it really count as a harem? The author says it is one.

There are shounen and seinen harems written by woman, plenty of them, but I don't think there are any aimed at female readers.

>>279630893
She’s doing art (fucking again) on an idol manga with Mari Okoda.
>wonder why she wasted time on that funless "comedy".
Probably money. The guy who wrote it likely commissioned her or Big Comic Spirits told her to do it.

>>279630831
Making the harem mc a pussy or too cool for school is just an excuse to keep the status quo. Every normal person would just pick one of the girls, or cheat. But that wouldn't be too much of a harem/wholesome romance.

>>279630910
I remember that one. Did that have a good ending?

>>279630831
Bucky isn't too cool for it, he still gets flustered but it doesn't seem like a priority for him.

>>279630954
>Did that have a good ending?
Don't assume I went that far. I just skipped to some of the sex scenes because the roastie was hot.

>>279615780 (OP)
I don't know about the genre but the one in your pic sucks

>>279630932
Mari Okoda

used good love

>>279631071
context?
is it a dream or something?

>>279630932
Is that still going? I read the first couple chapters and it was shit, just as I'd expected from Okada

>>279615780 (OP)
>What are our honest thoughts on romance manga?
I've read a bunch and I've yet to find even a single good one.

>>279631922
It's NTR fanart.

>start reading for romance and fanservice
>keep reading for charaters' struggles to become mangakas
It greatly helps if there is more than just romcom tropes to it.

>>279631809
I think the author is building the (slow moving) story based on cliffhangers, I'll just wait until is over.
>>279632043
Keep digging

>>279632150
I had high hopes for this one but then the author decided to add the designated loser long forgotten childhood friend who's always been in love with MC

>>279615832
fpbp

>>279615780 (OP)
I love a vanilla romance with no conflicts, no love triangle bullshit, no emotional turmoil, no ex boyfriend/girlfriend drama
Apparently no one can write anything like that

>>279615780 (OP)
Romance is for dumb bitches.
>That's the reason I like the genre

>>279633263
They definitely exist

>>279633669
he's just like me fr

The only good romanceslop

>>279633263
You just described the highest rated romance manga lol
Plebs cant handle anything you mentioned so most overrated stuff are vanilla fluff

>>279633995
>You just described the highest rated romance manga
Which one?

>used cup
ew

If it's not
>Generic low self-esteem loser x mary sue inexplicably in love with him, with tons of bullshit love triangle/NTRbait.
Then it's good.

Love your mom

>>279633964
name?

>>279634149
Sweat and soap

>>279633964
>>279634200
>non virgin female
>bullshit woman stuff about relationship dynamics and what other people think about them and stuff
Almost perfect. A shame it's awfully WOMAN tier story

>>279634553
>non virgin female
But she was one before meeting the protagonist.
>what other people think about them
What? No

Did you even read it?

>>279615780 (OP)
Worse than VNs

>>279634200
important question
is she a jimiko?

>>279634684
I did read a bit
The sex was so fucking unemotional i nearly dropped it
I should have. Then there's also the girl being insecure about the guys' kouhai and office bitch lady.
So much drama. I should've read a normal shoujo instead

>>279634954
Yes, she's mousy and plain and a good part of the story is about her breaking out of her shell, if only a little.

>>279621191
For my money, I think this bird is one of his best.

>>279635093
thanks anon, picked the fuck up as soon as i finish Masuda's new kino

What romcom has the CF win without having a harem of just CFs or only have CF heorine? CF who reconnected afte a long time don't count either, a proper girl next door CF.

>>279615780 (OP)
I hope you get back to real life .

>>279635041
You need to read more manga if you think that's too much drama. It's quite the opposite.

>>279635423
Cool, just don't judge the entire series by the first chapter. It was supposed to be a oneshot so it feels generic and rushed. It picks up immediately after that.
Also, the author made a hentai doujinshi and a couple of erotic art pieces of them.

>>279634129
NBR?

>>279615780 (OP)
Inferior to romance side plots in non-romance manga. You just kneecap yourself trying to write a story that explicitly focuses on romance since it forces you to predictably pace the relationship in line with the story length. Also, since there's no real conflicts in a SOL rom com setting, it has to be artificially made by cheap means like misunderstandings and/or romantic rivals.

>>279633263
what? i'd even say it's currently the most popular subgenre of this era

>>279631957
Yes, as far I know. I can’t wait for it to end.

>>279615780 (OP)
Go out with me! Will you? Anjou-san.

Bro why so demanding

>>279638531
you're reading it wrong

>>279620335
You got that shoujo manga brain pretty bad.

i'll just say, golden time > toradora
>but m-muh ghost!
yeah, it's still superior

>>279639392
I never watched golden time, but toradora was extremely disappointing given how people rave about it. The author managa, evergreen was somehow even worse.

>>279618394
>Manga can feel like is written by a stunted toddler sometimes.
Whaaaat? Noooo...

>>279634553
>non virgin female
She literally bleeds, what tf are you talking about?

>>279634129
No, she was a fucking bitch who contributed to ruin the kid's life
>>279636720
BR

>>279631809
>Sloppy xth
no thanks

>>279629823
True
Sadly the guy is kinda gay

I'm currently drawn into pic related.
Very cute so far. The release rate feels slow as heck tho

It's nice to have some romance in comedy manga

>>279635753
sure thing anon, thanks for the headsup
>also
chad behaviour

I like when both parts are improving and growing up as persons

i think this was a pretty great romcom

>>279641456
Never wanted to read this because of the guy with glasses that gets wrecked

>>279634553
>Almost perfect
Casual sex 3 times in the first 10 chapters isn't perfect, and it's a far cry from what I'd expect from the ideal romance story. People complain about male-written romance stories being pervy, but women are 10x more sexually degenerate.

>>279641809
Fucking this.
And most are more morally degenerated too.

>And they aren't even dating
wtf

>>279641809
>having sex with your boyfriend is having casual sex now
Are you okay?

is it really a romcom?
i found it pretty cute and kinda interesting

>>279641899
Were they fucking married? Bitch throwing away her Vcard the first couple of weeks of a relationship is a red flag. Not a massive one but it's there.

>>279642237
Get better bait

>>279629823
she cute yes but not the main heroine, making this an EXTREMELY pointless and forced triangle
>haha i like him cuz he was nice to me
also fuck off

>used goods used goods used goods used goods used goods used goods sloppy seconds ntr ntr used goods used goods used goods
and you unironic incels wonder why youll never have a girlfriend much less a wife
no damn wonder birth rates are going down the shitter world wide when the youth behaves this degenerate

you dont like sex in your manga because it makes the girls look like whores.
i dont like it because it makes me feel bad since im a khhv loser.
we are not the same.

>>279642440
That is no bait. If I were in a relationship with a woman who was desperate to jump on my meat it'd feel like she's in a hurry to get rid of it. Like she's missed out and speedrunning the modern slut experience.

based "used goods" anon MINDBROKE this roastie

>>279642646
Pills now

>>279641304
i can't believe someone actually reads this