Harukaze Mound (Cover & LCP)
Madan no Ichi
Sakamoto Days
Akanebanashi (CP)
Witch Watch
Roboco
Nue's Exorcist
Blue Box
Kiyoshi
Otr of the Flame
Himaten
Shinobigoto
Kill Blue (CP)
Elusive Samurai
Nice Prison
Embers
B no Seisen
Syd Craft (End)

>>279616464 (OP)
More like Weekly Shonen-Ai Jump. That cover it came straight from a yaoi doujin.

>>279616464 (OP)
Close enough

Welcome back Souma and Takumi

>>279616464 (OP)
>Shokugeki no Soma
>But for girls

Read Shinobigoto.

>>279616464 (OP)
nice prison confirmed for gag spot?

Oricon SOON

Our

>>279617152
Mentally ill shitposter.

>>279616464 (OP)
Finally, Soma without the stinky Erina

>>279617269
It should have Erina (male).

>>279617152
s

HI

MA

TEN

"exclamation mark"

Cosmetic Brand "Himariz"

An energetic high school girl president

With 80,000 followers

I'm the charismatic model Yoshino Himari

But I can't cook

I can't do laundry

I can't clean the dishes

And I can't even use the copy machine.....

I totally suck at housework

My company hired a personal housemaid for me

A GUY FROM MY CLASS?!

IEMORI TENICHI?!

I CAN'T LET THE ENTIRE SCHOOL KNOW ABOUT THIS

It's a secret between us

WHAT AM I SUPPOSED TO DO?!

Good Morning Iemori

"yawn"

My high school life is over

I'm so lame

That's right, you baka

Himariz? That's my cosmetic

I look up to my housekeeper

From now on, please protect my home, okay?

My housekeeper <3

>>279617152
OPfags

>>279616464 (OP)
Even though it's a baseball uniform, the white orange combo with that Chara design is really just that Aldini kid

Sakamoto leak
https://cubari.moe/read/imgur/hjCXPps/1/1/

>>279617451
>another nothingburger chapter that ends in a cliffhanger
Pages like these make me think Suzuki is really dying to end this shit.

>>279617451
people fight

>>279617451
>Shin is totally in danger guys, tunnel effect wasn't a copout

>>279617451
>your luck just ran out
>nvm sakamoto luckily arrives in time
just end this already

>>279617658
>this triggered the mentally ill schizo for the week

>>279617451
How many chapter it going end cause it all bored me to death.

>>279617152
Battle is just getting

>>279617516
I can picture the EiC begging him to keep it alive because they haven't found anything to fill the spot and because it's one of the series that still sells.

>>279617766
we just dont know, they could conveniently beat X in 5 chapters or its 100 chapters of people fight

>>279613034
>Cool story, bro. Got links?
The discussions were wide spread enough for news publications to report on the matter.
https://web.archive.org/web/20201128142013/https://news.nifty.com/article/entame/showbizd/12156-875823/
>I never said that.
You are certainly acting like Shueisha is infallible.
>But what you're doing is assuming Shueisha is some emotional high schooler
Strawman argument.
They literally underprinted one, right below the OP record, despite the much much higher demand.
They took the action, we can never know why they did that, but their other actions are consistent with it being related to One Piece and Oda's inflated ego.
>Wrong. OP consistently shows up in Oricon
Source? One Piece merely sells 1 million in backlog a year, mostly from the volumes of a year before. These are mediocre numbers for an ONGOING successful manga with over 100 volumes in backlog.
>DS has great back catalog sales too, but they're also inflated by a shorter run and a hard stop.
You do not know what inflated means, retard.
Also something called market cap exists, it is not sensible for a single household to own multiple copies of the same manga volumes.

>>279617815
No way it ends before its second cour.
I'm really dying to see its new volume sales after its much increased per volume circulation.
I'm sure it's grown a lot.

>>279617815
>100 chapters of people fight
Ugh, sound dreadful. Aleast I hope his next series won't be another people fight the series again.

>>279617451
Gas. Kino. Heat. Raw. Tuff.

>>279617912
Pair him up with someone who can write I guess so it's a battle Shonen with characters people care about?

Otr should have been more like Centuria first chapters
Have the ice kingdom attack Otr village and when this training arc ends he comes back sees them all frozen and starts thinking that he wasted his time

>>279617943
nah that's dumb and very similar to red hood

>>279617937
Aura.

>>279617937
>>279618052
you called?

>>279618106
>another u19 in the making
>taguchi excuse doesn't work anymore
Vindicated after 5 years saying he wasn't a good writer.

>>279618145
in your dreams anon

>>279618145
>>279618158
The training arc killed the hype
I cant think on how to save it outside of going full edge and killing the MC and start over

>>279618145
You could say the same thing about demon slayer, doomer.

>>279618209
demon slayer had a stronger start, the sister was actually relevant, there was urgency in getting stronger, it lasted like 2 chapters and the teachers were actually good characters

>>279613152
>There is zero evidence Shueisha 'faked sales' in 2019.
They said One Piece was the best selling manga of 2019 when it was not, they said it sold 12 million between November 19th 2018 and November 17th 2019, which is the same period Oricon calculates its yearly sales in, and they said Kimetsu no Yaiba sold 10 million copies when it sold over 12 million copies in that period.
Spoonfeeding you the source you want because you are a retard who cannot do research and keeps spouting made up numbers.
https://web.archive.org/web/20191125152105/https://mantan-web.jp/article/20191124dog00m200033000c.html
And they are also faking their circulation numbers. New One Piece volumes sell less than 50% of the first print in a year. Bookstores have limited spaces and usually send back unsold units to the publishers, publishers usually keep these volumes in warehouses, but these warehouses cost the publishers money over time, so they destroy and recycle the paper.
And before you ask for source, here is a tweet from the mangaka of High Score Girl which points at that being the case:
https://x.com/rereibara/status/959074722641162242
>One Piece was still selling millions per volume,
not for long
>dominating TV rankings,
both older and newer franchises top it on regular basis, even after it moved out of the Sunday Morning timeslot you hate so muc
>topping merchandise, and launching a new anime project.
These are signs of the preferential treatment it is getting.
>That's one hell of a 'zombie.'
You do not understand what zombie state means, retard. Interest has died down, and the only thing keeping a fraction of the fanbase keep up is sunk cost.
>So wait, now you're mad Shueisha let another author end his series with creative freedom, and somehow that’s proof they abused the DS author? Pick a lane, nigga.
I am just showing you they have given preferential treatment to other mangaka in the past, but still treated Demon Slayer like a rookie manga.

>>279618209
Tanjirou and his plight were better.
His training was way better executed than Otr's bland copypaste.
It's basically impossible to care about what otr is doing

>>279618270
You could say the same thing about Otr too.

>>279618270
lol
>demon slayer had a stronger start
killed off the main character family who we barely know anything about, Otr's father has more personality then those fuckers
>the sister was actually relevant,
mute plot device
>there was urgency in getting stronger
the ice kingdom is basically starting Ragnarok
>the teachers were actually good characters
no they weren't, no character in KnY is

>>279618328
You can't

>>279618400
I accept your concession.

>>279618360
>Otr's father has more personality then those fuckers
based

>>279618420

>>279618308
Regarding the fake circulation numbers, I was saying they are actually cumulative print numbers, but there is no proof and they likely cannot proof that all the printed units were in circulation and did not get destroyed or recycled.

>>279618419
Not an argument + Otr hype is dead so objectively it is not doing the same thing as kny

>>279616464 (OP)
the next 3 new manga will be DOA

>>279618360
>mute plot device
doesn't Tanjiro sister think the whole manga is dream after she has been cured? so it was basically like she was asleep the whole time

>>279617152
WINNERS...WO-

>kawaguchifags getting uppity
>again
They never learn

>>279618360
>killed off the main character family who we barely know anything about
establishes the main villian as ruthless, ice kingdom is just your generic evil kingdom
>mute plot device
Thats already more important than Otr's
>the ice kingdom is basically starting Ragnarok
why should I care about this world, its not like the people there even want to live in it, their biggest aspiration is dying in battle, the most human character, the sister, is already irrelevant
>no character in KnY
yet it survived in a much more competitive magazine, and Otr wishes it could do better than RH , only to still do worse than Hakutaku

>>279618477
>objectively
You sound like a typical redditor, that explain why reddit kept used that word. I don’t think that word means what you think it means, doomer.

Read her manga.

>kimetsu got a CP for chapter 7
>otr didn't
Therefore, otr is doing worse than kimetsu.

>>279618360
Holy ass take.
>killed off the main character family who we barely know anything about, Otr's father has more personality then those fuckers
Kids with dead families naturally invite sympathy
Unlike something like Galaxias, Otr’s dad doesn’t have any mystique so I don’t care about him
>the ice kingdom is basically starting Ragnarok
And yet literally no one treats them with any urgency

>>279618549
Post Otr have good objective numbers right now faggot

6 cushions for Kiyoshi and Shinobi

>>279618533
>establishes the main villian as ruthless, ice kingdom is just your generic evil kingdom
So, same thing.
>Thats already more important than Otr's
Basically, a same thing
>why should I care about this world, its not like the people there even want to live in it, their biggest aspiration is dying in battle, the most human character, the sister, is already irrelevant
I can say a same thing about demon slayer too, your biased is showing.
>yet it survived in a much more competitive magazine, and Otr wishes it could do better than RH , only to still do worse than Hakutaku
Otr will be doing just fine it own, doomer.

>>279618709
>unintelligible
ESLkun...

>>279618479
The exorcist manga may have a chance if it isn't too generic.

>>279617943
Centuria had a strong emotional hook since the first chapter was about Julian’s relationship with Mira.
Otr has……. uh………

>>279618308
You're feeding into his humiliation fetish anon. He literally gets off to getting embarassed openly in threads. The Futurama porn just doesnt cut it for him anymore.

>>279618533
>establishes the main villian as ruthless,
wow the villain is able to kill off non characters who had a couple panels of screen time? blue exorcist's first chapter does this much better, fleshing out the main character's father figure BEFORE killing him

>ice kingdom is just your generic evil kingdom
unlike generic vampire right?

>Thats already more important than Otr's
Otr's sister can talk. Plus chapter 2 hinted she has some connection to Fylgja pic related

>why should I care about this world, its not like the people there even want to live in it, their biggest aspiration is dying in battle, the most human character, the sister, is already irrelevant
Almost like there's a theme to explore here, unlike KnY Otr has something to say. Also good job ignoring Otr and Sixten, no wonder you don't like the series you aren't even paying attention.

>yet it survived in a much more competitive magazine,
nue exorcist survived and that series is trash.

>>279618753
Not an argument faggot now post Otr having any good numbers

>>279618783
There's a battle shonen in that batch? I thought it was all sports. I'll give it 3 chapters to impress

>>279618835
Settle down, eslkun.

What happens to this dude when otr gets axed?
Sudoku?
Also damn deflecting to kimetsu because otr is copypasting its training arc extremely poorly is quite something.

>>279618660
>Kids with dead families naturally invite sympathy
yeah IRL, in FICTION you need to make the characters compelling in order to get me to feel bad about them, KnY did not

>Otr’s dad doesn’t have any mystique so I don’t care about him
b-but anon Otr's father is dead and "dead families naturally invite sympathy" right?

>And yet literally no one treats them with any urgency
Wrong, read the manga please pic related

>>279618874
I accept your confession fag

>>279618752
every demon killed shows regret for falling to their desires when killed, and Otr has what? vikings willing to die and not!zombies freezing stuff for the sake of freezing

>>279618924
>Wrong, read the manga please pic related

>>279618923
Man, you are really that stupid, eslkun.

>>279618945
>nO urgency!!!!!

READ THE FUCKING MANGA

>>279618932
You better calm down, eslkun. Your brown is showing.

>>279618973

Also KnY has shit artwork, if it wasn't for the Ufotable adaptation no one would care about that mid series

>>279618827
>off non characters who had a couple panels of screen time
The MC family retard, Otr has no such connections with the viking, and they didnt even die so the MC has weaker motivation, weaker urgency despire being in a world ending WAR
>unlike generic vampire right?
The demons showing regret when killed and Tanjiro despite being kind still killing them in a brutal way like beheading is miles better than ice mooks, if it was just gonna present mooks it should go the Kagurabachi way
>Plus chapter 2 hinted she has some connection to Fylgja pic related
>hints and theories that might not even be relevant
you are done
>theme to explore here,
and LIVE as a theme is badly explored here when 3/4 of the series is a flashback arc

>>279618308
Also worth noting. Shueisha only reported the numbers for OP and KnY while Oricon reported multiple manga numbers. Pettiness of the highest order.

>>279619073
Meanwhile
>150k/month per volume pre anime

>>279618989
Not an argument so that's your concession x2

>>279618945
Crazy how its summer in the world yet it feels like winter with all the snow, you gotta wonder much worse it will get when it actually becomes Winter.

>>279616464 (OP)
>sports manga literally just showed up and died in the same breath
>"let's put another sports manga in"
?

It's good we established Otr has zero stakes, no urgency, and no good characters

KnY is STILL causing seethe? Its 2025 for fucks sake.

>>279619212
>another
Three.

Disneybros...how do we respond??

>>279617943
>>279618792
>Otr’s dad vs Tanjiro’s family
Actually come to think of it, Centuria did the “parental figure dies in chapter 1” trope too. Except that it did such a good job making me care about the characters that I didn’t even clock it as a cliche.

>>279619218
>Proved wrong but still Mindbroken by Otr
Lmaoo

>>279619229
2019 was a truly bad year to some fanbases.

>>279619273
>it did such a good job making me care about the characters
Centuria's version was awful and no one on earth would ever do what she did.
>yes I'll kill myself and entrust my kid to some random teenager
It just takes you out.

>>279619169
Sure thing, eslkun. :^)

>>279619334
Did… did you miss the cthulu goddess literally forcing one of them to die?

>>279619357
>Otrfag still can't post good numbers
Concession x3, otrfags won't recover at this rate

>>279619374
Yes, and any normal person would have chosen to live with their child instead of entrusting a newborn to a teenager you barely know, retard with zero reading comprehension.

What happen to Otr threads? What killed the hype?

>>279619415
Damn, guess calling you eslkun really get you seething :^) Settle down, okay?

>>279619419
It’s almost like Mira and Julian had developed a parent-child relationship and Julian reminded Mira of her dead son who is 99% Lukas at this point

>>279619143
>The MC family retard,
see this dumbass >>279618360
>killed off the main character family who we barely know anything about, Otr's father has more personality then those fuckers
you can't go m-muh mc character's family and expect me to give a shit when they are barely characters.

>Otr has no such connections with the viking, and they didnt even die so the MC has weaker motivation
This is a dumb argument "characters didn't die so no motivation" and it also wrong pic related. The motivation is saving his home from a endless winter that threatens his sister and the people of his village (who are on par with Tanjiro's family characterization wise which is pretty sad for KnY)

>you are done
so you have no argument, even worse then the previous one kek

>and LIVE as a theme is badly explored here when 3/4 of the series is a flashback arc
bitching about flashbacks while defending KnY is funny. "3/4 of the series is a flashback" also you pulled this right out of your ass, read the manga next time

Read our WINNERS.

>>279619481
>Mira and Julian had developed a parent-child relationship
Over a couple weeks.
It was EXTREMELY forced because they barely knew each other but she still just went
>well, my other child died so may as well never see this one ever grow up
>hopefully this emaciated teenager can take care of himself and a baby
It was retarded.

>>279619458
4th concession now, ESL is the only ad hom you know how to use

>>279617857
>The discussions were wide spread enough for news publications to report on the matter.
This article is a public speculation piece, not a whistleblowing expose. The summary is
>fans felt the DS vol. 23 print count (3.95M) was too low
>some people speculated it was being limited to avoid surpassing OP’s 4M record
These are opinions and impressions, not verified leaks or internal statements. Let me translate what's actually happening here: 'Why didn't they go higher? Maybe it's favoritism!' That's not a smoking gun, that's a barstool conspiracy theory. All it proves is that people on the internet were guessing, not that Shueisha ever intentionally throttled anything. If fan complaints counted as proof, every Smash Bros balance patch would be a war crime. And again, 3.95M is an absurdly large first print. You don't casually go from that to 't-they sabotaged the series!!' like it was some tiny underdog. It's the second highest first print in Japanese publishing history. Shut the fuck up.
>They literally underprinted one, right below the OP record, despite the much much higher demand.
I'd repeat myself, since you didn't get it the first time: IF SHUEISHA THOUGHT DS COULD MOVE 4M ON DAY 1, THEY'D HAVE PRINTED 4M. They underprinted it because NO ONE, not even Shueisha, could've predicted how insane the post-anime boom would get in 2019. If OP still gets 3M first prints after decades, it's because it keeps selling over time. You don't know what a strawman is, learn the word before you use some words you hear people say, nigga.
>One Piece merely sells 1 million in backlog a year
Yeah, and DS sells zero because it ended. That's not dominance, that's the absence of pressure. Also, you're wrong again, OP consistently shows up in Oricon's top back catalog sales. Its older volumes still move tens of thousands per year which DS doesn't by virtue of its shorter run. You can’t scream 'long-term performance doesn’t matter!!' while hyping a 3-year phenomenon.

>>279619545
LMAO, You meant like you know what "objectively" mean, do you, eslkun?

>>279619482
>bitching about flashbacks while defending KnY is funny.
Worse than Naruto, everytime a cartoonish evil demon died suddenly cure tragic backstory!!! feel bad for this evil bastard that was bragging about killing humans are couple moments ago

>>279619518
Counterpoint. Slaves in the Middle Passage spent literally all their time together. It’s not exactly hard to believe a mother who lost her son and an abandoned kid would develop that bond when confined in close quarters for 1-2 months.

>>279619608
Damn 5 concessions, Otrfags cannot stop taking Ls

Chad Otr of the Flame
Virgin Demon Slayer

>>279619730
Man, for someone who don't know what "objectively" mean, you're just embarrassing yourself, eslkun.

>>279619743

>>279618842
Yes, it's next week's manga.
>an action adventure in a Chinese-inspires setting. A guy lives alone in the mountain until one day he meets a mysterious masked girl

>>279619674
Actual counterpoint, no real human being would ever make that choice after that share if trauma.
It was shock value to get people talking about chapter one, nothing else. Character wise it was extremely forced and since the bond wasn't properly developed it is, in fact, one I'd the worst examples of parental figure deaths.

>>279619482
>you can't go m-muh mc character's family and expect me to give a shit when they are barely characters
They are killed to build the mc, give him a motivation, etc
And the demons killing people could be infered as doing it because their instincts after being transformed from the first chapters, ice mooks just follow orders and make new zombies, there is no introspection for them to do or regret
>The motivation is saving his home from a endless winter
pretty weak motivation that doesnt feel tangible, if they were from another village that got ravaged by the ice zombies and escaped itd feel more personal
>no argument
you literally only presented a theory
>flashback
my mistake, i meant training arc, a flashback on chapter 2 would actually improve otr, like Kagurabachi

so, with syd out, what's taking its romcom slot?

>kimetsu STILL causing this much asspain five years after it ended
That's how you know it won.

>>279619826
>redoing DB which was already a Sun Wukong parody
grim, just get an actual chinese writer student right off graduation before a gacha game company eats them

>>279619788
6 concessions now Otrfag, damn

>>279619861
3 sports manga and 1 chinese battle shonen

>>279619827
>no real human being would ever make that choice after that share if trauma
Why not?

>>279619892
What if I told I already accepted your concession before you did, therefore I am "objectively" correct, eslkun :^))))))

>>279618308
>hey said One Piece was the best selling manga of 2019 when it was not
Wrong again, retard. And I already debunked your crusty ass: OP outsold DS for most of the year of 2019. DS's anime didn't spike sales until late in Q3, with the real explosion coming in the final quarter thanks to the anime. Oricon data showed OP leading for most of the year, and Jump's statements were made before DS surged past OP thanks to the anime. This article you're posting was published weeks before Oricon closed its 2019 yearly tracking. I already addressed that (and you keep ignoring):
>oricon year-end sales go from nov 19, 2018 to nov 17, 2019
>this article waas published nov 25, 2019
Which means: Shueisha made a statement before final Oricon numbers dropped. Not fraud, not some cover-up, just bad timing. And the article was based on Shueisha's own internal distribution data, not Oricon's finalized tracking. And once the full numbers came in, everyone corrected course. DS was crowned the #1 manga of 2020 officially. So no, this isn’t evidence of lying. It's evidence of your dumbass cherry-picking articles without understanding how publishing schedules work. Embarassing.
>https://x.com/rereibara/status/959074722641162242
The tweet you posted literally shows Kodansha, not Shueisha. Also yes, old volumes that don't sell get pulped and recycled, that's industry standard. There's no conspiracy here every publisher in every country destroys unsold copies when they exceed shelf space or storage limits. This is just a mangaka giving a slice of life tweet about the printing industry's backend and you trying to weaponize that like it's an expose is hilariously desperate.

>>279619988
7th concession from the otrfag lmao
Will he finally have an argument instead of ad homs? Probably not, he's an otrfag after all

>>279618525
You mean

We never learn.......by 22i

Im starting to think the person arguing defending OP and Otr to shit on KnY are the same person. Same writing style and everything.

Otr is shit and it will rightfully get axed.

>>279620083
Why do you think the posts alternate between op and otr?
It's all to shit on kimetsu.

>>279620119
Based KnY hater

>>279620083
Well this is schizo thread, you're in one too.

>>279620001
"Bad timing" that they didnt correct at all and led to unnecessary confusion. What is this cope? Lmao

What good will it do to have three fucking sports manga at the same time?


I'm convinced only the Chinese Exorcist survives purely on that

>>279620131
Im watching from my balcony like a nosy neighbor.

>>279620176
Baseball will survive a little longer
Don't know how relay race and PING PONG will fare though. Too niche

>>279620198
Well, he's been at it for over two days already, I think he just replies to himself to keep going.

>>279620176
However, we also have Nue and Kiyoshi so Kaedegami would have competition as well

Is he going to cry to the mods again?

Why do you RATs feel the need to fight over who can suck their favourite mangas dick harder? I'd understand if it was between different magazines at least but this is retarded.

>>279620207
If a fucking rakugo manga can survive, so can ping pong

>>279618308
>You do not understand what zombie state means
Nope. Zombie implies it's dead but still walking. OP is:
>selling over 1 million per new volume
>topping manga twitter trends weekly during chapter drops
>getting two anime series running at the same time
>starring in a netflix blockbuster adaptation with a budget of 200 million dollars, one of the most expensive TV shows ever made
>holding 3 Guinness records
>still being used as WSJ's flagship promo series globally
This isn't a zombie, it's a juggernaut with legacy momentum. If your argument is "b-but DS beat it one time!!", then yeah and Avengers broke box office records too. Doesn't mean Avatar isn't still king.
>I am just showing you they have given preferential treatment to other mangaka in the past, but still treated Demon Slayer like a rookie manga.
Meanwhile in reality, DS got
>the second-largest print run ever
>a record-breaking anime
>the highest-grossing movie in Japan
>a government award for the author
>international tour events
>multiple recap movies in theaters
>billboard charting songs
>merch and collabs
You're acting like it was a mistreated orphan. No, nigga. It got the red carpet treatment. Just because they didn't break the 4M print line by 50,000 doesn't mean Shueisha burned the manuscripts out of spite. They were cautious, because print decisions are made months in advance based on trends, not post-release hype. They weren't being petty, learn the difference.

Also, Kishimoto was ending a 15-year cultural institution. Same way Oda will get the whole fucking magazine when OP ends. DS author was ending a 4-year series, during peak pandemic logistics. You can't just act like editorial fairness means 'g-give everyone exactly the same page count and features!!' DB, Slam Dunk, Naruto and OP built the entire magazine. DS was a golden spark, not a legacy cornerstone. Cry more, you little cuck.

>>279619975
Well, would you kill yourself to save some random kid and give him your son to take care of?
Answer: you wouldn't

Now that it’s been proven using facts and logic that Wan Piss is a flop. When will it be axed?

>>279620330
>random kid
But he wasn’t a random kid. He was her surrogate son.

>>279620373
This would give me a stroke when I turn on my computer

It's pretty early to say for certain but I do agree that Otr so far looks a bit too laidback.
Continuing with the comparison other anons brought up, kimetsu is much more old school, where the early chapters all revolved around the themes such as responsibility, owning up to one's beliefs and standing up against senseless evil.
This happens multiple times throughout the start and training arc:
>Tomioka tests Tanjiro's willpower, because wishes alone won't save anyone
>Urokodaki criticises Tanjiro's indecisiveness and Sabito beats it out of him
In the first 5 chapters Tanjiro learns to shed the young boy and to become a man who can shoulder the responsibility of saving his sister and avenging his family. This pairs up well with the more gorey aspects and is elevated by the esoteric feel of the whole setting.
On the other hand Otr has to learn NOT to let resolve and duty weigh him down because their power system relies on a balance of tension and relaxedness.

There's plenty of similar comparisons that highlight the contrast between the two series:
>Tanjiro leaves home because they are murdered and Nezuko is transformed into a demon
>Otr leaves home because he was asked to be a military cook and he said yes
>at the end of chapter 1 in kny, Tanjiro and Nezuko's life is spared and a shred of hope is given to his cause
>at the end of chapter 1 in otr, Otr gets the power that could save the world
>on chapter 2, Tanjiro has a trial by fire against a demon
>on the other hand Otr's resolve is put to the test by a frozen port he was told he can away from
>to prove he's worth being trained, Tanjiro has to rush down a mountain covered in traps at night, in the fog, by dawn
>on the other hand Otr proves his worth by warming up a bath and stating he's not willing to die for his cause

>>279620176
Well, four if you count Blue Box
>It's not about sports
It's used as a device for their dreams. Close enough

>>279620309
>/dbs/
Behold the Cross of the Lord, flee bands of enemies!

>>279620364
When Oda dies

>>279620368
Her two week old surrogate son who the author forced an extremely heavy handed parallel with that doesn't work because you don't feel it.
It's just a one chapter thing where both characters just randomly pour their hearts to each other because that's good writing.

>>279619836
>They are killed to build the mc,
they are nothing characters, see >>279618827
>blue exorcist's first chapter does this much better, fleshing out the main character's father figure BEFORE killing him

>And the demons killing people could be infered as doing it because their instincts after being transformed from the first chapters, ice mooks just follow orders and make new zombies, there is no introspection for them to do or regret
So? The demons in KnY aren't interesting at all. They're mustache twirling evil until the sob story drops.

>pretty weak motivation that doesnt feel tangible,
That sounds like a problem on your part, defeat the Ice Kingdom = ending the magical winter, pretty clear cut and tangible, I don't understand what's confusing you here. The magical winter is bad because cold is bad, more likely to freeze to death, farming more difficult, fishing harder if rivers are frozen over, less food more likely to go hungry and die. Tangible enough for you now?

>if they were from another village that got ravaged by the ice zombies and escaped itd feel more person
Oh you basically think killing random characters that aren't fleshed out equals motivation. That's dumb.

>you literally only presented a theory
Wrong, I presented a panel from the manga that has Otr saying Fylgia is like his sister. I didn't theorize anything. >>279618827

>my mistake
And you made another the training has only been in chapter 5 so far.

>>279620431
Waste no more time fighting your demons
Lay down your arms and let the evil inside!
And then you let it inside
You let eat you till there's nothing left at all
So you can feel that you are truly alive.

>>279620319
>They were cautious, because print decisions are made months in advance based on trends
meanwhile Phantom Seer, Sam 8, Astro and PPPPPP...

>>279620454
Because her biological child just died and she naturally transferred those feelings over to him.
idk it’s really not that hard to buy imo

>>279620319
>the second-largest print run ever
Kneecapped to prevent it from getting first largest
>a record-breaking anime
Ufotable's doing, not Shueisha
>the highest-grossing movie in Japan
Aniplex and Ufotable, not Shueisha
>a government award for the author
Not related to Shueisha
>international tour events
Which Aniplex handles
>multiple recap movies in theaters
Again, Aniplex
>billboard charting songs
Aniplex and LiSA
>merch and collabs
Aniplex

>>279619165
Nope. Just plain wrong. The actual Oricon data (which I showed your little cuck ass earlier) shows that pre-anime DS wasn't even breaking 100k per volume UNTIL multiple weeks post-release, and even that was spotty. Here's the reality
>vol 1-4: under 50k LTD in their first month
>vol 5: took multiple weeks to break ~65k
>volume 7-9: only began approaching ~100k per volume
>volume 10 and up: sales began climbing slightly
>post-episode 19 (ufotable glow-up): sales skyrocketed
The only time DS ever got near 150k/month across volumes was after the anime aired, specifically following the viral explosion that was episode 19, not before it. So your '150k/month per volume pre-anime' claim is either a lie or cope. You're cherry-picking aggregated totals after reprints as if that somehow proves pre-anime popularity, which is like saying 'the Beatles were always massive, just look at the album sales post-Ed Sullivan.'

Know your place, cuck.

>GOD
>I
>FUCKING
>LOVE
>GREEN
>TEXT

>>279620571
yellow text*

How can you discuss numbers for three days straight?

We LOVE Luffy
We LOVE Akane
We LOVE Chihiro
We HATE Shartjiro
We HATE Otr

>>279620319
>They were cautious, because print decisions are made months in advance based on trends, not post-release hype.
You now remember they kept increasing the first prints to what the previous volume was at EXCEPT for the final volume.
Stopping at 3.95 is petty, no matter how you slice it. It wasn't a logistics problem either considering reprints more than made it on time.
So it was just safeguarding Ida's record, and nothing else.

>>279620590
BASED

Takeru has disgraced his fans by taking a break.. AXE the manga now

>>279620552
>posts a chart that clearly shows volumes 11 to 14 hitting 150k/month
Are you ok, schizo? 14 is missing its fourth week but let's assume it at least did 5k there.
Unless you think later volumes magically increase in sakes without people buying the previous ones which would be extremely retarded of you.

>>279620494
We exorcise you, every impure spirit, every satanic power, every incursion of the infernal Devil, every congregation and diabolical sect, therefore you also cursed dragon. So that your Church can serve thee in secure liberty, [We] beseech thee [as] We pray, hear us!

>>279620597
>we just requested more from the warehouse and it was readily available
Amazing...ly nothing worth reporting.

>>279620492
>missing the point this hard
muh village is irrelevant because there is nothing that tells the reader that its in immediate danger, there is no personal stakes for Otr, he can always give up and go back to his sister
>They're mustache twirling evil until the sob story drops.
almost like the point is to humanize them and to contrast with Nezuko to further motivate Tanjiro that she can still be saved
>, defeat the Ice Kingdom
yeah because a simple cook is able to do that, he had to magically get the power to save the world to have an agency
>you basically think killing random characters that aren't fleshed out equals motivation
As opposed to Otr feeling like an NPC in his own manga, and to make matters worse the author has to throw the "lookbhow much he has grown" trope already but since he only has 1 chapter of fights then half the pages is almost the whole first chapter
>presented a panel from the manga that has Otr saying Fylgia is like his sister.
you are going into schizo territory from 1 panel that just means that they are close
>the training has only been in chapter 5 so far.
its been 4 chapters with Shitten, which he wants training from
that makes it even worse, its like Otr had to beg Urokodaki for 4 chapters

>>279618360
>mute plot device
Weird decision consideing Family is meant to be a theme in this series.

>>279620717
I'm the end and the beginning
The faith that feeds the unbelieving
A tightening knot the stench the bleeding
The drug that gives the wretched meaning
The answer every soul is seeking
say my name
SAY MY NAME

Ichi and KGB have the potential to surpass Troon Piss soon

>>279620775
>mute people arent family
Thats ableist

>>279620714
To be exact, the anime aired two days after volume 15 was released and the viral ep 19 aired one month after vol 16 got published.

>>279620784
AYEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>279620827
...in your dreams

>>279620827
DREAMING.
Don't give it up Ichifag
DREAMING.
Don't give it up Bachifag
DREAMING.
Don't give it up
Give it up
Give it up

Here's how the story goes you'll find out
About a group of coping faggots no doubt
They all think their series will be the next biggest thing
But One Piece will always be number 1, shounen jump's king

Sixten killed the hype
And I dont even know how to pronounce it

>>279620827
Kgb is an edgy but angsty, cold blood action battle shonen with a wide range of assorted male characters. With a good anime, this is bound to hit the million/volume mark, probably around the level of jjk, maybe a little less.
Ichi is slightly less mainstream, more of a fantasy than a straight battle manga. Its early arc aren't the strongest so its anime boost might tank a bit early on. I think it could go around 500k post anime, again, with a good adaptation.

One piss has not reclaimed its first place standing in 5 years. Its over!

>>279620918
The whole you gotta take it easy and be chill to be strong is kind of off putting. The really big action series have a lot of kill or be killed vibes to it, Otr doesn't seem to go that way though.
It's almost like early MHA where it focused more on its school aspect.

Realistically, how much will both One Piece and Kagurabachi being absent affect Harukaze Mound? Way less people are going to even bother picking up this issue

>>279621097
I doubt most people would even know kgb isn't on there. Casual readers don't follow jump's twitter.

KnY - 3
Jeremy - 0

>>279620714
Yeah, AFTER 3 years of serialization and JUST before the anime hit which proves my point. Vol 11-14 weren't pre-anime sleepers, they were barely crawling to ~150k after several weeks. And I already granted that sales started climbing with volumes 10 and up.
>>279620872
>the anime aired two days after volume 15 was released
Correct.
>ep 19 aired one month after vol 16 got published
Also correct.
But what you don't understand is this: that means EVERYTHING before vol 16 was selling without the anime's viral impact. The climb from vol 10 onward was already trending but ep 19 is what sent volumes 16-17 nuclear. You said '150k/month per volume pre-anime' but look at the chart again. Only vol 11-14 got near that and it STILL took multiple weeks. 'Per month per volume' implies every vol was doing that, which is flat-out false
>vol 1-5? not even close.
>vol 6-9? took weeks to scrape six figures
>only vols 10-14 trended upward
>then ep 19 dropped and boom
This isn't a consistent 150k/month catalog, it's a rising trendline capped by a supernova event. Your logic logic is 'later volumes were selling 150k, so that means the early volumes were also doing well!!' Nah, homie. This ain't Netflix, it's manga. Later vol performance =/= early vol success. People binge-purchased earlier volumes AFTER later ones popped off thanks to the anime. That's why vols 1-10 had a massive reprint wave and suddenly started flying off shelves, not because they were already popular.

So again, know your place in the pecking order you little cuck.

Tanjiro and Chihiro double teaming Akane with their tag team swordsmanship and using tsubame gaeshi on her womb.

>best selling manga in history (won't ever be surpassed)
>outsold batman and spiderman becoming the 2nd best selling comic in human history
>is $100M away to outsell superman and become the best selling comic in human history
>the most expensive live action adaption of all time with a budget of $200 million dollars
>Toei announced in May that OP makes more money for them now than DB
>an actual remake on the way by Wit Studio and not a cheap ass remaster like DB Kai, so now One Piece gets TWO concurrently running anime
>Oda has a net worth of over $200 million dollars making him the richest mangaka in the history of manga
>Oda has one of the best deals a mangaka can get as he actually makes royalties from the anime, so he gets money from both Toei and WIT
>is the most powerful man on Shueisha, can make them bend to his will and get sex offenders like Shimabukuro and Watsuki back on Jump and make you vanish into thin air
>Oda is alive and kicking it unlike the senile dead hack Toriyama
>Oda now comes in top 10 highest selling authors in history, surpassing JK Rowling of Harry Potter. Oda is the only mangaka on this list, the others are novel writers btw
GOD Piece

>>279621314
>The only time DS ever got near 150k/month across volumes was after the anime aired, specifically following the viral explosion that was episode 19, not before it
>Only vol 11-14 got near that and it STILL took multiple weeks. 'Per month per volume' implies every vol was doing that, which is flat-out false

>>279621314
Yes, it's a rising trendline that caps at 150k preanime, as the intial anon stated. That 150k first month was reached 10 months before the anime aired. You're moving the goalpost by pointing out that vol 1 to 5 were far from that 150k number.

>sells less than KEKperman
Not yet, you're still not strong enough yet Wan Piss.

>>279621314
>This isn't a consistent 150k/month catalog, it's a rising trendline capped by a supernova event. Your logic logic is 'later volumes were selling 150k, so that means the early volumes were also doing well!!

>>279621516
He always argues with fallacies because he can never refute shit.

>>279621453
nobody cares about your ugly slop

>>279621097
nobody cares about KGBT, sales are shit and TOCs are atrocious

>>279621314
>So again, know your place in the pecking order you little cuck.

I'm convinced these threads have been so shit and full of drama recently because of women

most of the kgbfags in this thread will be women
ichifags are women
probably at least 70% in this thread

The more I think about Ruri after she meets her dad the more i think he will end it faster and then start a battle shonen

>>279621606
He's so shameless it's kind of funny.
Dude writes a whole ass paragraph about sales number but attaches a graph that directly contradicts what he's saying. When people point that out he starts strawmanning and moving the goalpost.
He's also the only guy who keeps bringing up cucks. Is he projecting perhaps?

When did this become speech and debate?

>>279621675
I thought every poster in /a/ was a little girl, was I lied to?

>>279621797
Couple of days back, when some guy started gassing up kny. Little did he know that was a summoning ritual for little ole Jeremy.

>>279621770
>>279621888
Careful anon. He'll go crying to the mods again.

Axe of 13 when

>>279620762
>muh village is irrelevant because there is nothing that tells the reader that its in immediate danger
Pic related
Read the fucking manga. Jesus Chirst man.

>there is no personal stakes for Otr, he can always give up and go back to his sister
See >>279620492
>The magical winter is bad because cold is bad, more likely to freeze to death, farming more difficult, fishing harder if rivers are frozen over, less food more likely to go hungry and die. Tangible enough for you now?

>almost like the point is to humanize them and to contrast with Nezuko to further motivate Tanjiro that she can still be saved
nah the point is to pull some cheap drama, if the mangaka wanted to humanize them they would have been well rounded characters from the jump, not 2 dimensional fucks and only giving them a flashback JUST as they are about to die.

>and to contrast with Nezuko to further motivate Tanjiro that she can still be saved
Maybe the mangaka should have made Nezuko a character instead, that would have been much better motivation than random cartoonishly evil demons getting sob stories just as they're getting killed.

>yeah because a simple cook is able to do that, he had to magically get the power to save the world to have an agency
It's funny how you're both complaining about the MC being a cook, making the idea of him defeating the ice kingdom not believable AND you're crying about muh training arc when that's the very thing meant to get him strong enough to complete the task. Hilarious.

>>279620175
lmao. You think a publisher pausing to let Oricon handle the final numbers before issuing a follow-up is a malicious fraud? Shueisha didn't put out a retraction because they weren't the ones declaring a crown, that's Oricon’s job and media ran with early data, which is common. Once Oricon's rankings dropped, DS was crowned top seller of 2020 and no one disputed it. Nobody in Japan today thinks OP beat DS in 2020. That's you living in 2019 press release land, crying over how fast your cookie didn't get delivered.
>EXCEPT for the final volume
Nope. Vol 23 of DS had a 3.95M first print, second-highest of all time. It came with pre-announced reprints and matched final volume trends (peak interest tapering off). And again, that number wasn't kneecapped, it was already historic. You sound like a toddler crying because their ice cream scoop was 1mm shorter than their bro's. If Shueisha really wanted to suppress it then they wouldn't have done 3.95M + reprint. They'd have stopped it at 2.5M and ghost-dropped the volume on a Tuesday. Take off that tinfoil hat, nigga.
>it was just safeguarding Ida's record
Source: your ass.
>w-well they could’ve gone 4.01M and didn’t, so obviously it’s sabotage!!
Bro, they printed millions. The margin of ~50K is nothing in print math. That kind of rounding buffer is normal. What's not normal is trying to equate a logistical cap with a personal vendetta like this is a fucking soap opera.

>>279621984
>>279620762

>he had to magically get the power to save the world to have an agency
Yeah newflash shonen mc gets magical powers, like the Kamado family inheriting the strongest breathing style and the mark. Meanwhile Otr got his powers because of thematic reasons.

>As opposed to Otr feeling like an NPC in his own manga
Lol killing random characters is meant to make Otr more of a main character? what?
Not sure what you mean about Otr feeling like an NPC since he has the most screen time and is the one moving the plot along.

>and to make matters worse the author has to throw the "lookbhow much he has grown" trope already but since he only has 1 chapter of fights then half the pages is almost the whole first chapter
What are you on about?

>you are going into schizo territory from 1 panel that just means that they are close
Speak english dude.

>its been 4 chapters with Shitten, which he wants training from
Ok so you can't even follow the story of a shonen manga, in chapter 3 Otr meet Sixten and the latter said he would train him if he could prove himself. Otr proved himself in chapters 3 and 4, thus the training started in chapter 5. Keep up please.

>>279620762
>further motivate Tanjiro that she can still be saved
Wait Tanjiro doesn't even see the flashbacks only the viewer does.

Ichi the Witch just made history once again in Shonen Jump, it already made the elite list of three consecutive 1st TOC rankings in a row with no color pages in between

Just a few series have been able to achieve this and with less than 50 chapters Ichi is already there

another new batch another new fujo shits.
KWAFBM (kek what a fujo bitch magazine)

>>279620542
Thanks, bro. You just admitted Shueisha wasn't even responsible for 90% of DS's success. It came from Sony Music. You just shot yourself in the foot and basically shouted
>demon slayer's peak wasn't even shueisha's doing, so why didn't they risk millions to break a first-print record for no reason?
Because, and stay with me here, if Aniplex and Ufotable carried the franchise, then Shueisha doesn't owe it a record-breaking 4.01M run. They printed what they could safely sell in their domain: manga. Not anime, not merch, not music, not movie tickets. And Shueisha still:
>printed tens of millions of DS volumes in total
>promoted it across WSJ covers
>gave it color pages during key arcs
>allowed its tie-in events to go full blast
>AND let it end on its own terms
So where's the mistreatment? You wanna credit Aniplex and Ufotable? Cool. But now you can't cry that Shueisha didn't go nuclear on a first print just for optics. DS didn't get kneecapped, it got crowned and became a smash hit in 2020. Just because it didn't also steal a record by 50,000 copies doesn't mean OP was protected, it means you're mad the GOAT didn't move out of the way fast enough for your fav's victory lap.

Cry harder, cuck.

>>279621086
>The whole you gotta take it easy and be chill to be strong is kind of off putting.
Look up "relaxed alertness"

>>279622092
>One Piece 11
>Naruto 7
>Dragon Ball 5
>Rurouni Kenshin 5
>My Hero Academia 4
>Toriko 4
>Ichi the witch 3
>Kimetsu no Yaiba 3
>Jujutsu Kaisen 3
>YuGiOh 3
>Rokudenashi Blues 3
>Dr Stone 3

>>279622011
He's getting more training from the girl than the big dude. That guy's just been chilling in the back.

I don't know who this guy is.
Shueisha employee? oda cocksucker?
why does he defend od muh 4m that much?

>>279622092
They just don't make Editor-in-Chiefs like they used to anymore...

As an outsider looking in I think OPfag is winning the argument

>>279622011
>shonen mc gets magical powers, like the Kamado family inheriting the strongest breathing style and the mark
Tanjiro worked his ass to get the water powers and was only able to use Hinokami because of prior training, it also happened dozens of chapters into the series
Otr got the god powers chapter 1
>the one moving the plot along
lol
lmao
what plot?
its just his training, there is no real plot, so far he has just been dragged along, to be a cool or then to find Sixten
>What are you on about?
So you are blind, got it

Jump will improve once Otr gets axed and vetoed from ever serializing a new manga

>>279622183
>relaxed alertness
Did you learn that from some self-help pseudo alpha tiktoker?
Btw, I think it could potentially work for one character (Sixten), especially if when shit hits the fan he measures up to the challenge. But if that's the basic principle of the power system, doesn't that mean that all strong characters are going to be like that? Otr probably will be like that too, as the last chapter seems to foreshadow. Time will tell I guess.

Weekly Shonen

Does Otr have an appeal outside of pedoshit?

>>279621997
>Shueisha didn't put out a retraction because they weren't the ones declaring a crown
https://x.com/Eiichiro_Staff/status/1198806266954444801?t=yRfAlASI7dz_wCTQ4HLoJA&s=19

https://x.com/Eiichiro_Staff/status/1199161344282357761?t=bTDoaFMlip4jHoRbOdmCSg&s=19
Hmmmmmmm

>>279622515
im not even sure whats the appeal
Nue is LNfags and 2000s battle harem fags
KnY was standard shonen stuff but with some edge
Hell Kill Blue is conan core but with some action

>>279622521
NTA this is bordering on a conspiracy theory

>>279622163
>You just admitted Shueisha wasn't even responsible for 90% of DS's success.
Yeah, when you used this treatment as claim that Shueisha doesnt treat it like shit, things Shueisha had no part in. How did you forget your own argument lmao?

>>279622515
Otr so far is a bit hazy. You'd think by chapter 5 a series should have given the reader a good feel about what's the series going to be like but I don't get that from Otr. It reminds me of Mamayuu.

>>279622303
>Tanjiro worked his ass to get the water powers and was only able to use Hinokami because of prior training,
Still inherited the strongest breathing style and the mark

>Otr got the god powers chapter 1
and he needs to train in order to use it without tiring himself out or dying.

>what plot?
Otr leaving his village to become a cook at the fortress, bringing Fylgja to life with his will to live and saving several people, destroying the device the Ice Kingdom left behind to freeze the lake allowing people to travel freely, travelling to Mead mountain in search of Sixten for training in order to defeat the Ice Kingdom, winning over Sixten with his ideals, passing the first step of his training.

>So you are blind, got it
Says the guy who can't follow the plot of shonen manga, kek.

>>279619575
>This article is a public speculation piece
Which is more than enough to prove that even the public caught on. We will never Shueisha employees admit they played favorites and were biased because they are fucking complicit, and probably due to NDAs.
But your implication that it was some underground 5ch schizos' theory is provenly false.
>And again, 3.95M is an absurdly large first print.
Yet they are only 100k less than the record number set by One Piece, even though multiple of the previous Kimetsu no Yaiba volumes sold more than 4.5 million units in the year before.
>IF SHUEISHA THOUGHT DS COULD MOVE 4M ON DAY 1, THEY'D HAVE PRINTED 4M.
Anons here saw it, everyone with a working brain saw it. It was more than a year after the end of the anime and the exponential growth was already undeniable. And if anons here saw it, then shueisha's decision makers definitely did.
>You don't know what a strawman is
Shut up retard, you comparing Shueisha's biased actions to high schoolers is strawmanning, unfunny, and derailing the discussion, you just want to make noise and make replying to you tiresome just to have the last word, but you have exposed yourself as the retard you are.
>OP consistently shows up in Oricon's top back catalog sales.
You still provided no source, faggot.
>Ignores the market cap point.
Disingenuous faggot.

>>279622224
KnY mindbroke him that hard. Want to know the best part? He's not even a OP fan, he's a MHA cuck.

>>279622349
He is. I've only seen conspiracy theories from kimetsufags instead of real arguments.

>>279622091
Yeah you're right, I forgot about that. The flashbacks are just there for cheap emotional appeals to the audience.

Do we really need another exorcist manga? It feels like oversaturated.

>>279622726
IMO we need romcom where MC rape every girl!

3 threads in a row where OPfag gets his ass whooped! KWAB

>>279622352
>Did you learn that from some self-help pseudo alpha tiktoker?
Nah I learn that from looking up Ultra Instinct from DBS and looking for what might have inspired it. Similar to "the Zone" from Kuroko no Basket mangaka like to pull from stuff like that

>>279622643
>inherited the strongest breathing style and the mark
and he could barely hold off Muzan, could barely kill Akaza with help, didnt live beyond 20 years, so the mark actually meant something, otr power "consequences" will be a nothing burger like OfA, though more because he gets axed again kek
>Otr leaving his village to b- yapping
yawn
wake me up when they attack his village or something to actually raise the stakes

>>279621516
>it's a rising trendline that caps at 150k preanime, as the intial anon stated. That 150k first month was reached 10 months before the anime aired.
That's not what was originally claimed. The original false claim was
>DS was doing 150k/month per volume pre-anime
Which implies multiple volumes, consistently, were selling 150k in their debut month. That's objectively false
>vols 1-5? nowhere near it
>vols 6-9? crawled toward it across multiple weeks
>only volumes 11-14 started sniffing 150k within 4 weeks and even those didn't do it immediately
So no, there wasn't a sustained 150k/mo 'catalog.' It was an upward slope with a delayed payoff. That's not goalpost moving, that’s clarifying a lie with a timeline.

Also, I also never said 'DS volumes never hit 150k', I said it was not consistent pre-anime and was not across all volumes. The big numbers only arrived in the final stretch, just before the anime aired. That's called accuracy, not a strawman or a goalpost shift. You're trying to retroactively rewrite the context of your own argument, which is what you do when you get out-argued and panic.

Cope harder, loser.

>>279622776
OPbro is literally right
Like, isn't it just more reasonable to attribute all of these things to coincidences than some grand conspiracy from Shueisha?

>>279622811
The goalpost is now in the pacific ocean.

>>279622783
>yawn
>wake me up when they attack his village or something to actually raise the stakes
Ok now, you're just disingenuous cunt.

>>279622827
Just going to ignore them gloating on twitter about OP being the best selling manga of 2019 for the 13st year in a row prematurely and never correcting their mistake? People have every right to look at them sideways.

>>279622811
>was not 150k across all volumes
So if it didn't do 150k fm ever since volume 1 then it means it didn't sell 150k preanime? Hat kind of cope is this?

>>279622592
What would you call it then?

>>279622783
>and he could barely hold off Muzan
and Otr can barely use a small percent of his power pic related meanwhile the Ice Kingdom can make summer feel like winter that's how much better they are with their spirit. Also the first color page shows multiple people are going to help Otr in his quest.

>otr power "consequences" will be a nothing burger
>will
What happened to no "theories"
>>279619143
>hints and theories that might not even be relevant
YOU are done

>yawn
Lol, dude just say you have no argument it's easier.

>>279623030
>Also the first color page shows multiple people are going to help Otr in his quest.

>>279620001
>A lot of BS
The article was released in November 25th 2019, everyone who owned a calculator or could count knew the numbers they were stating were not gonna match the final count from Oricon, as Oricon releases sales they track on weekly basis.
Nowhere in the article do they mention that they were just speculating or projecting the final results.
All signs point towards the article was made to sow doubt in the Oricon numbers and to celebrate a false victory for One Piece.
They probably did not anticipate Kimetsu no Yaiba to blow One Piece so hard in the following year they had no chance for deniability.
>The tweet you posted literally shows Kodansha, not Shueisha.
All publishers do this, and it is proof that the "slow and steady sales" bullshit you keep touting has no standing since a good chunck of the stock will inevitably get recycled instead of occupying the warehouses and cost them money.
This is proof there are other factors that play into why they overprint One Piece by more than 50% beside having faith it will sell them later.
>and you trying to weaponize that like it's an expose is hilariously desperate.
Strawmanning again. Stop putting words in my mouth, faggot.
Shueisha upped the first print for volume 100 of One Piece to 3.5 million units before bringing it down to 3 millions again, when there were no signs that the decline in sales was going to stop, and then they used the print number to advertise the volume. Another sign they use the initial print for promotion and NOT due to rational calculations are accurate supply of the demand of One Piece volumes.

>>279623030
>and Otr can barely use a small percent of his power pic related meanwhile the Ice Kingdom can make summer feel like winter that's how much better they are with their spirit
do we care?
he will just burn bigger and beat him with the power of friendship

imagine sperging out this much about a soon to be axed manga
>Also the first color page shows multiple people are going to help Otr in his quest.
yeah your bog standard U19 fantasy manga
>What happened to no "theories
his teacher was horikoshi, be for real

>>279623030
>meanwhile the Ice Kingdom can make summer feel like winter that's how much better they are with their spirit.

>>279623126
>do we care?
Again no argument.

>he will just burn bigger and beat him with the power of friendship
see >>279623030
>What happened to no "theories"
>hints and theories that might not even be relevant
>YOU are done

>yeah your bog standard U19 fantasy manga
>his teacher was horikoshi, be for real
Still no argument, I guess we're done here.

Jeremy receiving a double penetration humilation ritual. Now Ive seen everything.

>>279623216
enjoy your sub 5k series bro

nuerats killed this thread.

>>279623246
Seething

What is acai bowl?

>>279623301
A berry smoothie fruit bowl full of carb and diabetes

>>279622650
>Which is more than enough to prove that even the public caught on.
You cited opinions, not evidence. You're confusing speculation with verification. Just because people guessed 'm-maybe they capped it to protect OP' doesn't make it true. The same people online also think Saitama would solo Goku and that's not Oricon canon either. Shut the fuck up, nigga.
>Yet they are only 100k less than the record number set by One Piece, even though multiple of the previous Kimetsu no Yaiba volumes sold more than 4.5 million units in the year before.
And those sales happened after release and post-anime. That's called sell-through. But first prints are based on pre-orders, retailer demand, and forecasted velocity, not what volumes sold months ago. That's why the final DS volume had a cautious but massive 3.95M first print with a pre-announced reprint.
>You still provided no source, faggot.
Eat shit and die, retard.

>>279620319
>>selling over 1 million per new volume
Not for long
>>topping manga twitter trends weekly during chapter drops
Top kek
>>getting two anime series running at the same time
These prove it is getting preferential treatment.
>>starring in a netflix blockbuster adaptation with a budget of 200 million dollars, one of the most expensive TV shows ever made
fake numbers
>>holding 3 Guinness records
manufactured numbers by daddy shueisha
>>still being used as WSJ's flagship promo series globally
yeah, preferential treatment
>This isn't a zombie
It is a zombie. Lost 60% of its readership and still bleeding.
Online discussions are limited to gooning, powerscaling, or theorycrafting, and the latter is frowned upon by the author.
>Also, Kishimoto was ending a 15-year cultural...
They still did not want to spare some few extra pages to their most popular title at the time.
If you think having a longer run should grant the manga special treatment then just admit it, instead of acting like the obvious disparity between how they handle different franchises was a coincidence and not deliberate.
Just so you know, such thing is normally seen as corrupt and unpleasant, that is why you will never see the staff openly admit it.

>>279622614
Yeah, pissfaggot is a walking contradiction. He thinks having the last word means he won the discussion, but in reality everyone in these threads saw him for the retard he is.

>>279622827
I'm not sure if they realize the OPfag is making them look batshit crazy with all their conspiracies

Tonight, DEIchirats will witness the first week decline by oricon.

Just wait for the first rank and color page
If it doesn't get a color page then it's doomed

>>279621981
Conan magazine did it

When is she coming back?

KGB leak when?

>>279623616
3 weeks

>>279623664
he fell ill and took a break, hopefully he goes biweekly so his art improves and stops recycling so much

>>279623380
>You cited opinions, not evidence.
You were implying these were some 5ch conspiracy theories when they were the opinions of the general public.
Only Shueisha itself did not admit such thing, but they did not deny it either. And considering it would paint them in a bad light, they never will.
>But first prints are based on pre-orders, retailer demand, and forecasted velocity, not what volumes sold months ago.
First of all, multiple retailers said they asked for more volumes than they were initially sent.
Moreover, Shueisha can promptly release emergency prints which proves they are market aware and have swift responses. They KNEW Kimetsu no Yaiba final volume needed a higher first print but they stopped 100k short of One Piece's record, curious.
>Eat shit and die, retard.
These are mostly due to sales of the new volumes, the backlog does not sell very well.

No KINOrabachi this week? Read AKINO-baNINO. We got banquets for days!

The English Jump Twitter forgot to announce the new series lol. Never seen that before

>>279623780
jobber cunt lmao

>>279623096
>everyone who owned a calculator or could count knew the numbers they were stating were not gonna match the final count from Oricon
No, they didn't. What the article from Nov 25 shows is preliminary Shueisha figures, based on their own internal distribution data, which is not the same as Oricon's POS sales tracking. You're acting like they rigged something when this is just a difference in reporting windows.
>shueisha: tracks print + distribution + estimates
>oricon: tracks actual retail sales from a sample of stores
>timing: article published before the final Oricon year cutoff (nov 17, 2019)
It's not a sabotage, it's not 'planting doubt.' It's just a PR article using publisher-side numbers. This kind of thing happens every year. Go cry to the editors of every awards list too while you're at it, lil bro.
>They probably did not anticipate Kimetsu no Yaiba to blow One Piece so hard in the following year
Of course they didn't, nobody did. You keep mistaking hindsight for foresight. Nobody knew DS would explode the way it did post-anime, this isn't some deep cover-up. It's called being surprised by a cultural nuke. You can screech 't-they should have known!!' all you want, but even Aniplex didn't forecast the extent of the boom. That's why volumes were understocked and bookstores ran dry. Because the anime carried the series into orbit, not the manga itself.

>>279623780
>*copied KGB*
Holy hack

>>279623780
I kinda respect the shameless leeching

>>279623834
>Doesn't go all out
>Still qualifies for a chance to win the contest
The other fools showed all their cards too early.

>>279623500
NTA
>Online discussions are limited to gooning, powerscaling, or theorycrafting, and the latter is frowned upon by the author.
This is EVERY mainstream shonen.
You are crashing out.

>Out of Jump's series that started in 2024, only four remain
>Out of those four, only one (Ichi) is an actual hit
Jesus.

>>279623096
>All publishers do this, and it is proof that the "slow and steady sales" bullshit you keep touting has no standing
>All publishers do this
No, you dumbass. All publishers recycle unsold, stagnant inventory, and it's often from failed series, overestimates, or decade-old volumes. That Kodansha tweet doesn't say anything about OP. It shows how the industry handles shelf decay. Shueisha still keeps printing OP because:
>retailers keep ordering it
>older volumes get anime boosts (Gear 5, Red, Netflix)
>it sells in bundles, gift editions, anniversary box sets
And it's consistently in the Oricon yearly top 10. If volumes were stacking unsold, they'd scale it back further, which they did, from 4M to 3.5M to 3.2M. That's called adjusting forecasts, not failing them.
>Strawmanning again.
No, you're just mad I'm reading your bad arguments back to you. You claimed Shueisha sabotaged DS. You claimed they rigged Oricon. You claimed they waste millions to 's-save Oda’s face!!' You have zero proof and now you're crying when your own conspiracy gets picked apart. That’s not a strawman, that's just your dumbass logic being repeated back to you verbatim. Get fucked, you loser.
>Another sign they use the initial print for promotion
Yeah, because high first prints ARE a flex when they're justified. Vol 100 was part of a milestone push, celebrated across all channels (manga, anime, film). It makes sense that they used the big number in PR. But here's where you implode again: they printed 3.5M when OP was surging from Netflix, Wano climax hype, and Red previews, then they scaled back to 3M in future volumes as demand tapered.

They never required emergency reprints because retailers still took those units and cleared stock. So no, it’s not 'irrational.' It's measured hype based on historical performance, not cope like your headcanon.

>>279619799
>>279619743
wow otr copied yaiba just like yaiba copied gamaran oh wai-

new KGB chapter just dropped.
We have not!Soshiro Azami too

>>279624055
KGB is already this influential pre-anime

>>279623849
>It's not a sabotage, it's not 'planting doubt.'
It totally is. Instead of waiting few days for the Oricon numbers they released this article which everyone knew was going to contradict the oricon numbers later due to publicly available weekly numbers.
They later did not apologize for the misleading article.
>this isn't some deep cover-up. It's called being surprised by a cultural nuke.
The fuck are the dumb terms you come up with.
Stop acting like Shueisha's executives live under a rock and did not notice Kimetsu no Yaiba's explosive growth after the anime. They knew its popularity, yet all their responses somehow favored One Piece, especially that article which only lists WRONG sales for One Piece and Kimetsu no Yaiba and nothing else.

Chihiro and Akane should take notes.

>>279622163
>if Aniplex and Ufotable carried the franchise, then Shueisha doesn't owe it a record-breaking 4.01M run.
>We arent going to print what is actually demanded, just shy of OP's record because DS already got soooo much good treatment from Aniplex and Ufotable
Aka pettiness
>printed tens of million of DS volumes in total
But not enough to break that record of course
>allowed its tie-in events to go full blast
Confusing publishers with licensers
>AND let it end on its own terms
Would be in their best interest to let the OP killer end and never speak of it again.

You guys are boring

>>279624167
Wrong, vengeance can harm everyone. Not just the men, but the women and children too.

>>279624017
>All publishers recycle unsold, stagnant inventory, and it's often from failed series, overestimates, or decade-old volumes.
The last two apply to One Piece volumes, meaning the circulation numbers are only representing volumes printed, which are more than they could ever sell since some volumes were probably already recycled.
It is also proof that slow and steady sales bullshit point from you holds no weight since it is way cheaper to sell according to immediate demand, and reprint when necessary, instead of filling warehouses and eventually destroying these unsold volumes.
>And it's consistently in the Oricon yearly top 10. If volumes were stacking unsold, they'd scale it back further, which they did, from 4M to 3.5M to 3.2M. That's called adjusting forecasts, not failing them.
One Piece continues to sell less and less yet they do not reduce its initial print further, almost like they want to keep the value of Oda's salary which is decided based on printed units, or maybe to reach milestones faster. Whatever their reason is, it is not due to One Piece eventually selling these volumes.
>You have zero proof
I do not need a testimony from the editor-in-chief to be right, I have provided enough evidence while you keep resorting to appeal to authority fallacy.
>they printed 3.5M when OP was surging from Netflix, Wano climax hype, and Red previews, then they scaled back to 3M in future volumes as demand tapered.
despite all of these the 3.5M first print was not justified, the 3M first print was not justified to begin with
it was done for promotion and promotion alone

>>279623913
You can visit /opg/ and see for yourself, it is vile.

>>279624338
>You can visit /opg/ and see for yourself, it is vile.
Clearly you were not around in the JJK fanbase during Shinjuku
By comparison, the OP fanbase is incredibly analytical and erudite.

One Piece general is pretty civil aside some AI coomerposting, it's kinda slow now because it's a break week

>>279618199
My expectations after ch.1
>My and my Fire Spirit are going to go on an adventure!
Instead, all of that feels like it's being put on pause while the MC learns to cut a tree.

I have no stake in this argument but what I dont get about Shueisha's declaration of OP being the best selling manga is what were they hoping to gain from posting that? Oricon's numbers were going to contradict what they said eventually. Were they hoping for a couple days of false celebration before Oricon dropped the actual numbers? And if they made an honest mistake, why not put out a statement saying they messed up since they ended up confusing the shit out of millions of people.

damn that opfag wiped the floor with the kimetsufag

>>279624782
You're so cute Jeremy

>>279624055
>>279624086
In your dreams, kgbfag.

>>279624782
I dropped OP years ago but it's still satisfying to see fags get put on their place

>>279618500
no, don't read manga on fandom wikis and tiktok

>chojo dead, harukaze in
>syd dead, kaede in
>? dead, ekiden in
>? dead, ping pong in
What dies next? I'm certain embers is finished but after that it'll come down to kiyoshi (probably getting the astro treatment), beethoven (u19 bait and I'm sure it's selling just as badly), and nice prison (literal dead man walking)

Opfag and Kimetsufags are wrong. Shueisha reported OP being first ahead of Oricon to troll. They saw the discourse between OP fags and KnY fags and went "You know what would be funny? What if we reported OP as number 1 for the 13th year in a row and then Oricon reports the actual number 1 in a couple of days?" Then they sat back and watched the chaos while OPfags and KnYfags duked it out on multiple forums about which source was valid while refusing to elaborate.
Source? My dad works at Shueisha.

Oof

>>279624994
ASStro wish it had the treatment Kiyoshi is getting lmao

>>279624994
It's Embers & Beethoven.
Nice Prison is too new and Kiyoshi is too successful to be in the flop tier.

>it’s another’s baseball manga where the MC is is only the pitcher

>>279624566
It made oda didn't throw any tantrums.

>>279625768
No one cares about batter.
Baseball is boring sport please underesuntado

https://mangahelpers.com/forum/threads/weekly-monthly-yearly-oricon-comics-light-novels-ranking.3000431/page-31
It's out

>>279626052
Weekly Oricon Ranking (by Series): Jun 02 - 08

01. SAKAMOTO DAYS: 83,955
02. Mairimashita! Iruma-kun: 61,239
03. Madan no Ichi: 54,915
04. MF GHOST: 46,999
05. Boku no Kokoro no Yabai Yatsu: 46,948
06. Phantom Busters: 45,770
07. The Fable The third secret: 33,777
08. Haikei Mishiranu Danna-sama, Rikon shite Itadakimasu: 31,335
09. Futsuu no Keion-bu: 30,451
10. Nami Uraraka ni, Meoto Biyori: 30,437

01. SAKAMOTO DAYS #22 (68,164)
03. Madan no Ichi #03 (48,486)
21. Shinobigoto #03 (11,823)
22. Himaten! #04 (11,378)
41. Syd Craft no Saishuu Suiri #02 (6,019)

>>279626088
>iruma declined instead of ichi
Boring

>>279626088
>01. SAKAMOTO DAYS #22 (68,164)
b-but the netflix stats...

>>279625108
It got a good treatment, but the sales were too bad.

>>279626088
>Madan no Ichi #03 (48,486)
>It declined
What happened ichibros....

>Akane Banashi #17 (27,459)
>45. Ao no Hako #20 (5,907 / 153,857)

>>279626272
>It's real
Oh no
Oh no no no no no

>>279618827
>otrfag always going back to nue

>>279623278
Good, they're gods then.
KGBfags are so weak they cannot even save their "land".

>>279604140

Shoseki Top 500 (June 12)
14. Sakamoto Days #22
27. Ichi the Witch #3
64. Akane-banashi #17
134. Hima-ten! #4
205. Shinobi Undercover #3
209. Kill Blue #10
354. Syd Craft: Love is a Mystery #2

>>279626386
Reminds me of mamayuyu shitters
Nue is the punching bag so every dipshit axebaitfag think their manga can easily beat it

>Kagurabachi 3 - 49035 (4)
>Ichi the Witch 3 - 48486 (5)
Kek

>>279626440
enel.jpg

lcp doko

>>279626487
>KGB's least advertised volume vs Ichi's most advertised volume

>>279625528
>>279625581
>tld
time to fap

>>279626440
>Ichi lost
That's one spam down.

what will be xer's next meltdown?

>>279626942
https://nhentai.net/g/578514/

>>279623997
is this your 'hit'? >>279626088
>>279623521
based

>negative growth
>by volume 3
>Despite shilling it alongside iruma's volume and selling combined merch
Ooooooooooof

>*cricket*
this is deifags discussion when they don't have good numbers
jesus, what a god awful manga

66bros......

>>279627158
>spam for half a year
>stagnate
>do worse than a series despite having a bigger print AND an extra day
Serves the mentally ill retard right.
>most successful series since 2022
Can't say that now!

>>279626080
iruma sells worse than SD?

>>279627224
3 days vs 5 days
Iruma sells better

WHERE'S SEASON 2
I NEED MY SHOTA FIX

In short, One Piss lost.

>Ichi is STILL doing worse than magus of library
It's so fucking dead

>>279626088

How shameful that Vet+Vet lost to newbie by vol 3

Shitters don't realize it's 5 day so Ichi is stagnant at worst
It's still the most successful WSJ manga since 2022 just from its TOC performance

>>279626088
never expected shinobigoto to be the best selling out of the kiyoshi-himaten-shinobigoto existing trio

>>279627294
>Shinobi Undercover 3 - 11,823
>Kill Blue 10 - 9,953
Shinobi won.

>>279627368
>Frenchcope

>>279627368
>just from its TOC performance
Oh, but you see, that's irrelevant.

since deichifags never have a real manga discussion, to commemorate their BTFO lost, what's your favorite character in Jump?

>>279627368
Now try a metric that isn't decided internally like jump so it's meaningless
>it's successful because it ranks high!
Kiyoshi must be s fucking masterpiece

>>279626080
>09. Futsuu no Keion-bu: 30,451
My fuarking HEROINE.

>bundle it with Iruma merch
>it does worse
Why does the Iruma cult reject Ichi?

ichi fail
ruri and kgb will decline in july

maybe its entire jump that should be axed

>>279627644
frieren lost

>>279627595
Iruma is light-hearted and goofy on top of having a very wide cast. Ichi has been in fujobait yaoi namek for nearly half the length of the serialization.

>>279627644
Frieren?
Outperformed by Solo Leveling.

>>279627711
>15 chapters of not china and a friendship consisting of two scenes and a flashback
No wonder fujos aren't really taking the bait

>>279627375
Himaten might end up outselling it in the end since the difference is very small and Himaten seems to have a longer tail, based on >>279626416.

I really doubt about 3 new sports manga is gonna be popular in WSJ, almost no one in japan is gonna read sport in WSJ in current year.

Both op and kny are good. Not blacked clover though, that shit is terrible. Imagine being axed on its last arc for being so dogshit

these are my favourite sports manga

>>279627644
Ruri already declining because the lazy ass didnt made bonus
it will probably sell the same

now that both kgb and ichi have started declining, what went wrong with the newnewgen? wsj need a proper bnha/kny/jjk replacement ASAP

>>279628047
Crazy how prince of tennis is the face of tennis m
manga. someone needs to change that

>>279627711
Only now I noticed how long it was

>>279628156
Ichi is declining, KGB is going through what nearly every manga goes through before the anime is announced

I want something like nanatsu no taizai in jump. Ironically, its a shame nakaba is drawing a sequel to 7ds instead of a brand new manga entirely

>>279628189
As someone not keeping up with KBC, how is it actually? I read the first volume and thought it was alright, but it didn't really grab me. Is it JJK tier or is it just people blindly hyping it?

>>279628206
>7ds
The good 7ds or the pedo 7ds

>>279628189
They're both declining

>>279628217
2000s action movie

>>279628217
Way better than JJK at the same point

>>279628220
the pedo one.
>the good 7ds
i dont care about the goonershit you're trying to advertise.

>>279628217
its on its worst arc right now

>>279628248
Oh I'm retarded I keep thinking 5ds is 7ds

>>279628156
kgb too much recycling and bad writing decisions with Samura
ichi isnt much of a drop, so more or less no growth from here on
>>279628217
Its becoming more like JJK since the start of this arc

>>279628269
whats 5ds

>>279628217
Actually give volume 2 a go.
That's the real hook of the series since it covers its first arc.

>>279628217
It's JJK with swords and worse in every way.

>>279628281
>Called 5ds for 5 dragons
>There's actually 7 dragons

At this point, i dont trust ToC, as it show that EiC actively manipulating its order regard based on actually ranking

>>279628268
>>279628280
Why samefag THIS hard?
It's not like people can't tell.

>>279628302
my favourite season of yugioh unironically

>>279628315
Kgbfags are bunch of crybabies

>>279628310
I learned fast not to trust it after Doron got a top 5 rank

>>279628318
It goes to shit super hard after its first big arc.
OG is still the best because it was written by s competent writer with no retarded drama like VAs joining sex cults leaving plot threads completely unresolved.
Also yuusei is the biggest mary sue in all of ygo

>>279628310
I feel like I need to post this because I don't really trust in toc too.

>Oda-sensei!! My brother says that the order of the manga in Jump is decided by popularity. Is that true?

>Oda : That's a fitting suspicion for a Jump reader. Since I get these fairly often, allow me to answer. To be precise, not quite. The order is decided every week by the Jump sub-chief editor. But it's true that the most popular series are placed in the front of the magazine. Also, sometimes he decides, we're pushing THIS one this week! I guess you could say it's the "order you could enjoy the magazine in". But of course, the only TRULY correct answer is to read it in the order YOU want.

>>279628332
>screenshot
>doesn't show timezone
>still thinks people can't tell
>Kgbfags
Mentally ill as usual.

>>279628332 (You)
Samefagbro, why are we like this?

>>279628376
>accuse someone of samefagging
>move goalpost and is now asking for timezone
go buy a diaper, bachikek

>Syd Craft has been axed
What went wrong? Why didn't the shilling work?

>>279628407
you took 7 mins.
i took less than a min to screenshot, Bachicrybabies

>>279628428
Shilling?
What shilling?

Ichi the Witch #1 (29,458) - 9 Days
Ichi the Witch #2 (49,340) - 6 Days
Ichi the Witch #3 (48,486) - 5 Days

Shinobi Undercover #1 (10,566) - 9 Days
Shinobi Undercover #2 (12,092) - 6 Days
Shinobi Undercover #3 (11,823) - 5 Days

Hima-ten! #1 (11,287) - 10 Days
Hima-ten! #2 (11,561) - 9 Days
Hima-ten! #3 (13,320) - 10 Days
Hima-ten! #4 (11,378) - 5 Days

Kill Blue #7 (6,740) - 3 Days
Kill Blue #8 (9,120) - 2 Days
Kill Blue #9 (6,130) - 3 Days
Kill Blue #10 (9,953) - 5 Days

>>279628442 (You)
Samefagbro, I think we're going crazy from all that samefagging...

>>279628459
big jump for himaten

>>279628459
Himarizz

>>279628428
Romcom and mystery together is never gonna work.

>the "other person" still isn't posting in the same broken english
There's like two schizos mindbroken by a single, harmless manga.
The other one is mentally ill, but I wonder what this one is.

>>279628523
The ESLschizo is a huge ichifag, no way he shows his face right now

Shinobi surprisingly doesn't get brought up often in these weird shitflinging contests despite doing better than Kiyoshi and Himaten

>>279628523 (You)
>>279628539 (You)
Samefag bro...

>>279628560

>>279628479
kanna's tits is the key

>>279628459
Unitonically genki ono should just do goonerbait cover from now on. its working

>>279628556
I'm surprised too. Kiyoshi has an obnoxious hater glued to it and Himaten is the lesser version.

>>279628575

>>279628556
I can perceive some amount of SOUL from it and it's kind of nice.
It also has Hayabusa.

>>279628459
>Ichi the Witch #2 (49,340) - 6 Days
>Ichi the Witch #3 (48,486) - 5 Days
yeah its selling the same
mean while the real decline is shit blue

>>279628556
Shinobi has chill readers who don't invite hate

>>279628611
>ESL trying to deflect already
Oh no no no no

>>279628556
Shinobi is like Yozakura and Witch Watch: a manga that is average in every aspect and without a single remarkable trait (positive or negative), so non-readers easily forget that it exists.

You guys have too much free time

>>279628659
It's also the series where young children actually read it for

>>279628696
So does your mom (which she uses to guzzle black cocks)

>>279628407
>he took efforts to Photoshop shit to make his petty claim look real
Bachifags will never beat "mentally ill" allegations

>>279628830
Samefagbro...

>all this because DEIchi is in decline
DEIchirats are insane.

>nips shitting on Ichi and Saito's super push
>what are rankings for if you don't sell?
Love to see it.

>>279624566
I imagine they hoped people would trust their numbers more than a third party like Oricon. They also probably also thought One Piece was gonna go back to being the best selling the following year, and they wanted to have the excuse to plaster that it is the best manga for X number of years in a row.
>>279625793
Too speculative, but Oricon typically reaches out for mangaka to comment on the results at the end of the year. Typically all 3 top selling mangaka thank their fans, but in 2019 Oda thanked his fans for making One Piece volume 91 the best selling single volume for the year and did not thank them for making One Piece the second best selling manga overall. Armchair analysts here and on other forums jumped to the conclusion it was because he was too angry to admit he is number 2 for once, which would be funny if true.

>>279628419
>>279628442
(You) know that it doesn't mean shit when roach was caught samefagging using two different devices. This is why you hide the time, unless you're deeply ashamed of your country.
>>278046768

>>279629198

>>279628627
not anymore

KGB lost and Takeru smis dying
he can save his series if he goes biweekly

I want to know why half of Japaneses dislike or outright hate Nue, They thought it will end up axed.

>>279616464 (OP)
cute boys

>>279629421
save reason we hate Nue

>>279629429
>>279629421
samefag and ESL

*saves your manga*

>>279629445
Really dude?

>>279628456
it got many cp and even a collab chapter

>Hima-ten! #3 (13,320) - 10 Days
>Hima-ten! #4 (11,378) - 5 Days
Himaten is the only series that won today

>>279629421
Nips are literally the only one who like Nue, xitter socials is Nue’s turf

>>279629702
then what about 2ch and 5ch.

>>279629685
Don’t forget Shinobi anon

>>279629121
His ego is too fragile.
He throwed tantrums when his OWN fans correctly predict some of piss's plot points and then pull some asspulls just for "hahaha none of readers predicted this".
If shueisha printed 4.5m for KnY back then, you prabably would read some crazy news "popular mangaka oda jumped from his apartment".

>headcanon

>>279629685
>Hima-ten! #1 (11,287) - 10 Days
>Hima-ten! #4 (11,378) - 5 Days
Also you can see an obvious growth, doing better with 5 day less.
Now author pls introduce a GIGA bitch in this series, I swear that would turn the story more exiting

We finally got new series that are outselling Kek blue

>Ichi the Staganation
>Declinebachi
Who will save wsj at this point

>>279629936
just kidnap furudate and force him to write another hit.

>>279629936
mmyy author back with his SoL

>>279626080
>>279626088
Ichi? More like SANJI.

>>279630017
Where's Niji and Yonji?

>>279629936
Otr

>>279629936
>>Ichi the Staganation
I still think it declined and we can't see it yet.

Can artist keep making Hima-doujin? It seems to boost it’s sales

>>279630072
I'm not sure how you can upgrade from literal bikini shoots as far as Jump can allow

>>279630081
Bleach had Kubo drawing Orihime and Rukia naked with their asses out for one of the CPs.

>Top 1
>Top 1
>Cover + LCP
>Top 1
>Top 1
This seem a bit too much Saito people will start to notice

>>279630081
this is the next step

>>279630081
Nude but no tits or pussies

>>279627711
this arc is ranking great though

yuribaiting is the next step for himaten

>>279630231
Same as kiyoshill's, doesn't mean the rankings are actually real.

How much Embers and Beethoven?

It is really complicated when you have a mass exodus like what we had back in 2020 and then you’re halfway through the decade and have these multiple titles with some of them filling out that year in particular. And in the case with what i am talking about here is the list of every series in Jump all the way from 1997 to 2024 (won’t do 2025 as that is still new and waiting to see what sticks).

1997: One Piece
2020: Me & Roboco, Sakamoto Days
2021: The Elusive Samurai, Witch Watch, Blue Box
2022: Akane-banashi
2023: Kill Blue, Nue’s Exorcist, Kagurabachi
2024: Ultimate Exorcist Kiyoshi, Hima-Ten!, Ichi the Witch, Shinobi Undercover

So the sheer fact that some of the titles from the 2020’s can hold out for this long and we would still have 2-4 survive within certain years, says a lot on how determined and focused these artists are despite some low sales and what Jump went through with the exodus.

>>279630433
>2022: Akane-banashi
What else released that year?

So, what is the criteria to axe Syd but not Kill Blue?

>>279630450
The dragon

>>279629502
she should win

>>279630464
Syd is irredeemably boring.

>>279629936
No one
Japanese just stopped making good manga for WSJ
It's a shame, really
00s will remain to be the golden age
Now it's the dark times

>>279620316
Don't pretend to be a newfaggot who doesn't know why does that rakugo manga "survive".

skateboard / rollerblade sports manga is the next big thing. Nips just dont know it yet.

>>279630374
Didn't rank in Oricon. Shoseki estimations put them in the 1000-1200 copies rank.

>>279630706
People don't like to be outside anymore though and most boys experience sports through clubs

>>279630514
10s is the golden age for me

>>279626272
>>279626326
>>279626440
>>279626774
>>279627016
>279627158
>279627208
>279627290
>279627595
>279627711
>279628189

calm down nedicbas, it's gonna outsell volume 3 of KGBT.

>>279630737
What about volume 4?

>>279630737
..by 66 copies

>>279630755
>54 post
Kek

>>279630733
There was a time with:
>Eyeshield 21
>Medaka box
>Kuroko
>Beelzebub
>Bleach
>One piece
>Naruto
>Gintama
>Nisekoi
>To love ru
God damn

Oricon Data updated.
>Kagurabachi gains its first victory in head to head volume first week sales
>Ichi the Witch declines in first week sales for the first time, 4 volumes earlier than Kagurabachi's first first week sales decline

>>279630737
>did less with one extra day
Oh no.

>>279630790
You're never beating the
>66 posts on dump day
No matter what.
It's declining after just two volumes two, AMAZINH

>Ichi the Witch #2 (49,340) - 6 Days
>Ichi the Witch #3 (48,486) - 5 Days
It kinda grew, almost the same with 1 day less

>>279630945
Yep

>>279630945
It's not like it's heavily frontloaded and it was doing a cross promotion campaign with Iruma or anything.
It'll probably (barely) grow enough to call it stagnant instead of declining.

>>279630920
Actually it was one less day

>>279630464
>not even 10k sale

>>279630965
If it grew or not depends if it isn't so heavily front loaded anymore

laughing at ichirats cope

i think 1 more day would give ichi additional 5k

>>279631152
And one less day would make it look even worse compared to the series the schizo has been shitting on with it for the past 6 months.

>>279630737
>Ichi volume 2 week 2 and all the following weeks sold worse than KGB Vol 2

>>279630706
I prefer whatever sports that haven't been made into manga than 1245436th baseball manga

>>279630945
Growing is doing less in more time now

>>279631195
>Ichi volume 3 has been below Magus of Library every day of the second week so far
It'll be lucky to break a 10k second week

>>279631212
retardbro...

nue is the worst story i've ever read

>>279631278
this but KGB

>>279631278
This but kill blue

>>279631278
this but everything in current wsj

>>279631278
I'm still baffled to this day, I thought this shit was axe from a mile away when I read it the chapter one, it was so bad.

>>279631447
we all did
chapter 1 dump had people shitting on it all over https://desuarchive.org/a/thread/252538830/#252540980

>all axebait deserves a chapter 1 dump
>has lasted more than 2 years since

>>279631479
>2023
Fucking hell, where it all go wrong. Man, Nips did really have a fucking shit taste in manga.

>>279630464
The shilling with Bokuben failed, so it was axed.

>>279629936
I'm sure that if Jump shills Akanebanashilled some more, the sales will rise magnificantly.

>>279630464
Kill Blue survived long enough to get anime protection

They just haven't announced yet.

>>279631609
Did not help them for 2 years (it's been in steady decline for a while).
I don't think even anime will boost it.

>>279630464
People have to understand that Kill Blue was legit popular for first half a year. Syd's reception was lukewarm from the start.

FIGHT

>>279631447
Japanese Nue fans don't treat the manga seriously. They treat it like some meme manga It's not exactly in the realm of enjoying something ironically but it's close.

>>279626080
>>279626088

Aren't these Sakamoto numbers lower than Kagurabachi last month?

Reminder that modern WSJ is unlikely to keep manga past 10 volumes if they don't have anime plans for it.

>>279630937
>esl again

>>279631278
>>279631389
>thread is almost done
>shitting on Nue
my oh my, kgb? Lost.

>>279631934
you dumb nuerat

>>279631934
>kgb out of nowhere
Yeah nuebros are mindbroken by kgb

Sakamotofags....we have a constant shilling by the editorial, we are treated as the second major manga of the magazine and we have a Netflix anime. Why do we continue losing against Kagurabachi?

>>279618500
>>279624988
Yes

>>279632171
The tunnel effect, in other words the particles of light bouncing off the pages of sakamoto days did not make contact with the eyes of the shounen jump's readership

>>279631824
>>279631838
>>279631869
>DEIri Drag Queen
>Each volume sells less and less
>Views are dropping on Mangaplus
I don't think I'd be laughing

>>279631954
>>279632028
>kgb loses again
>and again

>>279633642
nuerats? lost

>>279633658

>>279633658
Take your meds, KGBfag. You lost.