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Do trans girls count as yuri?

>>279620678 (OP)
No, they don't. Fuck off cancer.

>>279620678 (OP)
No relationships involving men are not yuri.

Women will never see you as one of them, they won't admit that, but it's true.

>>279620678 (OP)
Hahaha oh my goodness no.

japan has fallen

Is futa on futa yuri?

>>279620895
No, even if futa is different from trannyism the dicks still makes it not Yuri. You could maybe describe it as girls love at most.

>>279620880
>>279620857
>>279620813
>>279620770
>homosexuality is so based, transsexualism is going too far though!

>>279620895
>>279620954
Futa shit is so funny. They started treating like it was some sort of slur for transwomen when they should be so lucky as to be that feminine.

>>279621020
homosexuality wasn't invented in the past couple decades

>>279621020
I don't care about real life dykes (or trannies) as well. It's all a genre to me.

>>279621020
You know what, transsexualism would be fine too if it weren't an untreated mental health crisis.

>>279620678 (OP)
Sure, why not? It's all faggotry.

>>279621052
neither were troons thoughbeit

>>279621020
>homosexuality
Please stop acting like japanese cartoon lesbians and irl HIV spreading faggots are the same thing.

>>279620895
As long as there are two sets of boobs it's yuri

Man, even dyke hate tranny

>>279621202
That's how I think of it too. Yuri isn't any more like real lesbianism than anime girls are like real women. Both are idealized forms that the reality can't even begin to compare to.

>>279621286
Bro what do you mean "even"? They LOATHE them because there are so many "transbians" out there who are just men built like refrigerators with greasy long hair and high heels acting like they're cute and girly and trying to U-haul shit like with real lesbians.

>>279620678 (OP)
No, it's a straight relationship with one of the participants being a mentally ill crossdresser.

>>279621202
Why are you assuming the worst of transsexualism and the best of lesbianism? That isn't fair. You can't pick and choose which parts of the queer pie you accept. You're only being dishonest with yourself.

>>279621202
They are the same thing. Now rope, tranny.

>>279621286
I think the artist is a woman. The art is too womanish.

>>279620678 (OP)
/u/ is full of trannies, why don't you ask them?

>>279621020
You have your own genre in TS tranny fuck off
Try making a thread asking if a trans girl and a guy is straight and see how much more you get shit on

>>279621445
/u/ hates trannies as much as yurifags here do.

>>279621522
There are no woman neither on /a/ nor on /u/ that means everyone who claims to be a girl ever here or there is a tranny

>>279621506
It's cool how a trans girl and trans guy being together is still a straight relationship but absolutely not in the way they want.

>>279621124
>buh buh this roman emperor said he was a sun goddess so actually im hecking valid!!1!
transvestitism =/= transsexualism

>>279621568
Also, interesting how much it can fuck up shit
>Anime tranny girl x guy = Faggotry, the tranny is a guy yada yada
>Anime tranny girl x girl = Faggotry, they look like dykes yada yada
It's gay no matter how you look at it

>>279621388
>You can’t just distinguish between anime girls and men in dresses because uh you just can’t ok
It’s always these faggy disingenuous arguments from you anti-yurifags.
>>279621393
Not an argument, rope closet faggot.

>>279621552
Someone can also just lie about being a woman without believing themselves to be a tranny.

>>279621020
Pretty much yeah trans are invaders trying to take over manga and culture

>>279621202
Please stop acting like japanese cartoon trans women and irl mentally ill faggots are the same thing.

>>279621202
I agree with what you said. However, transfolk in manga =/= trannies in real life. They are two different things. Trans women have a place in yuri.

>>279620678 (OP)
>trans
Gas chamber now

>>279621964
They are the same thing.

>>279622063
They have a place in tricking dykes into falling in love with and fucking a man in drag.

>>279621020
I find it funny how chuds will go
>Yuri have NOTHING to do with the LGBTQ+, despite many Japanese artists and mangaka outright saying they are the same thing and support it!
>Trans women in manga are the same thing as trans in real life, therefore they BAD!
The mental gymnastics is hilarious.

>>279621964
>anime trans women and irl mentally ill faggots
I've actually seen a study that being trans put you at a higher risk of schizophrenia than the general population
It might even go the opposite way, apparently unabomber had a phase where he was convinced he was trans
Unfortunately the schizos here lose their mind here due to the anonymity fueling their paranoia, so the tranny schizos losing their minds don't do anything for the rep of the regular TS pple

>>279622083
If they are the same thing, then yuri and real life LGBTQ+ are the same thing.

>>279622063
It’s not yuri if one of the people involved is a male, retard.

>>279622170
Except trans women are not men, retard.

how does /a/ do it?

>>279621964
>japanese cartoon trans women
You see, this is the problem. A trans “””women””” is a man, the very utterance of the phrase “trans women” is a delusion, which is not the case with actual yuri. There is a reason why they are even more controversial irl than normal homos, you are forcing a lie by claiming that men can women. There is a clear difference and your insistence on grouping everything together is just disingenuous faggy conjecture.
>>279622063
kek

>>279620678 (OP)
no, trans people don't count as Yuri/Yaoi are both genres that the characters keep to their original sex.

it's not to say that I wouldn't read a manga about a trans character, I've across a few I've liked, it's just it's its own genre

>>279622255
There are /a/nons in this thread that say that yuri is different from real life lesbians. Isn't that even more delusional? How is a genre about two girls being in love with each other different from girls being in love with each other?

Japanese mangaka say that yuri and real life lesbians are the same thing. Japanese fans say that yuri and real life lesbians are the same thing. Publishers say that yuri and real life lesbians are the same thing... and yet a couple of basement dwellers say they are not the same thing.

Trans women say they are women. They identify as women. Scientists confirm that they are women. Society says they are women... and yet a couple of basement dwellers say they are not the same thing.

>>279620678 (OP)
>>279621020
Yuri fags BTFO by facts and logic.

>>279622063
This, yuri is idealized lesbianism and that's good and accepted, so what's there to prevent trannies from becoming actual cute girls in manga? It'd be almost like genderbend stuff but with a transexual background, if you ask loving yuri while hating trans manga just because of irl stuff is 100% hypocrisy.

>>279622152
They are the same thing, and should be purged from this site.

>>279622470
>yuri is idealized lesbianism
Not necessarily, sometimes it's perfectly deplorable lesbianism and it's perfectly fun too.

>>279622385
>Scientists confirm that they are women. Society says they are women
nonsense

>>279622385
>appeal to authority
Again more disingenuous garbage, as expected from a tranny. Fiction is indeed separate from reality, that doesn’t mean some fictional depictions aren’t still as retarded as IRL. An idealized version of lesbianism is yuri, which is fine. An idealized version of a tranny is still a tranny, it’s a deliberate lie being pushed at the very basis of it’s meaning. Also it’s only just a “couple basement dwellers” if you don’t count fucking official statements from the british government and arguably 2/3rds of america, dumb faggot kek.

>>279622270
>no, trans people don't count as Yuri/Yaoi are both genres that the characters keep to their original sex
>it's just it's own genre
/thread, but the tranny schizo is going to keep losing it that yurifags don't like their kind

>>279622682
I always do the opposite of what the British government says.

>>279622682
An idealized version of a trans woman is a cute girl. No different from yuri. You're the one who is being disingenuous.

>>279622682
He could have at least claim that an idealized version of tranny is gender bender.

>>279620678 (OP)
No. Kill yourself.

>>279622719
>yurifags don't like their kind
trannies who hate being trannies an eny being trannies vs trannies who are proud of being trannies

>>279622682
>An idealized version of lesbianism is yuri, which is fine.
An idealized version of trans women is a cute girl, which is fine.

>>279622728
Kill yourself, twittertard.

>>279621124
Your still a retard.

>>279622751
>completely losing its mind and can barely type
>no argument
I accept your concession, feel free to keep melting down for my entertainment

>>279622751
*and deny being trannies

>>279622199
I made sure to say male for a reason, faggot. So you wouldn’t try this weasely bullshit. Or are sex and gender suddenly one and the same again, by your definition?

>>279622682
Why do you assume the worst of an idealized version of transfolk? The idealized version of transwomen is a girl, which would make yuri involving a transwoman no different from that of "normal" yuri.

>>279622385
>Society says they are women
>Baaaaw, we are being genocided, trans rights are being targeted around the world, transphobia is in the rise
So which one is it?

The irony is not lost on me the fact that how chuds treat transfolx is the same way that anti-yuri schizos treat yuri.

>>279622199
lol yes they are

>>279622199
Kill yourself.

>>279622861
You can just say man. The word means adult male human being.

I agree with trans folk being valid in anime on the premise that all lesbianism and acts of faggotry belong under the same shitty umbrella to further scrutinize. Dykes and dyke lovers don’t deserve a space here, and their AIDS infested bubble should be seized by the troons of doom like in real life. Fucks yuritards and any of their ilk.

>>279621393
>>279622628
Kill yourselves, retarded tourists.

>>279622859
>>279622859
>no matter what a yurifag says, I will always believe them to be a tranny
What is the reason for this psychological need to see all yurifags as trannies?

>>279622728
>>279622762
>>279622864
Wrong, a girl has a vagina, was born female, and produces female gametes. A born male tranny is a male, if any fictional depiction of a character claims or depicts them as a “trans female”, that is claiming they are male. They don’t produce eggs, they don’t naturally produce estrogen, and they have a dick and balls unless they’ve decided to axe wound themselves.
Gender bender is on thin ice as is , it shouldn’t be counted as yuri either but at the very least whatever magic or science bullshit that usually happens actually makes them a biological female, which trans “””women””” are not.

>>279622937
People can still be discriminated against while still being accepted by larger society as a whole, you retard. For instance, Black people are accepted by wider society while there are chuds like you who discriminate against them.

>>279622938
I treat all schizophrenics here the same though, whatever I use to insult and bait them doesn't reflect my actual thoughts on the genre/idea or even their disorder itself

>>279623000
Slit your throat.

>>279623020
Newfagism.

>>279623041
What if a manga has trans women the ability to produce eggs? While not manga, many Japanese yuri artists have toyed around with the idea of lesbian couples being able to impregnate one another, despite real life women not being able to biologically produce sperm. Nobody argues that women being able to have children with each other means that it's not yuri.

>>279622682
B
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>>279622682
>Automatically assumes the worst of the idealized form of a trans person
Sounds like you're the one being disingenuous.

>>279622682
>arguably 2/3rds of america,
And those 2/3rds comprise of unintelligent Trump supporters who would also kill lesbians.

>>279623020
the same reason that he who must not be named sees their bogeyman everywhere

>>279622682
>arguably 2/3rds of america
Those same people you're talking about are the same people that type this shit >>279623000

How does /a/ do it?

>>279623243
/pol/fags invading this board

>>279623043
Are you genuinely this stupid? If the discrimination is widespread like you idiots insist, then larger society doesn't accept you. Take gay for instance. There are some minor cases of discrimination, but most people are fine with them. No one is "genociding" them or passing " anti gay rights" laws with widespread support. Politicians aren't wining elections by promising they are going to tackle the gay problem.

Spam, retards.

>>279623238
Reminder that /u/ have your own board colony to happily post instead of festering here. Overall, it’s a nonissue if yuri exists but the trans people should get some representation in your bubble too.

>>279623288
>There are some minor cases of discrimination, but most people are fine with them. No one is "genociding" them or passing " anti gay rights" laws with widespread support. Politicians aren't wining elections by promising they are going to tackle the gay problem.
Imagine being this delulu

>>279623330
You need to be killed.

>>279623116
>What if a manga has trans women the ability to produce eggs?
That already happens in omegaverse, where men can be impregnated. That still doesn’t make them women, because they were born men.
>>279623153
The very basis of being a trans “women” is being male. A cute girl is completely different from a male for a variety of reasons I’ve already said. Although you obviously can’t even move your decrepit fingers enough to try and make an actual argument beyond
>no u
>>279623238
Surprise surprise, people can agree and disagree on different things. Most of the anti-yuri christian larpers are closeted faggots that need to go scorched earth on anything they deem degenerate, lest their cocklust take hold of them.

while it doesn't count as yuri, if they pass then it may be fine. the effort they put into making themselves pass is commendable. basically going to the gym

>>279623374
The omegaverse doesn't claim that men are trans.

>>279623330
>the trans people should get some representation in your bubble too.
>your
That's an interesting turn of phrase there. Are you neither a yurifag nor a tranny, yet you're pushing for it in a genre you don't like for a group you aren't part of?

>>279623339
Not using someone's preferred pronouns isn't the same thing as genocide.

>>279623374
>The very basis of being a trans “women” is being male. A cute girl is completely different from a male for a variety of reasons I’ve already said.
The idealized form of transwomen is making them completely female.

>>279623374
The Omegaverse has never claimed that the men are women.

Yuri where women can impregnate other women is no different to transwomen impregnating other women.

>>279623428
Oh so you are just arguing semantics then. “Completely female” is automatically opposite to being transgender. If they are depicted as a trans female, they are male. The ideal tranny cannot be a woman because then they wouldn’t be a tranny, that’s like saying the ideal orange is an apple. It’s completely different.

>>279623512
>Yuri where women can impregnate other women is no different to transwomen impregnating other women.
When the fuck has anyone ever wanted any of that?

>>279620678 (OP)
>Is a heterosexual relationship yuri?
Even for a bait thread, this is retarded.

>>279623512
>Yuri where women can impregnate other women is no different to men impregnating other women
It was fun but I’m not going to reply to low effort bait anymore.

>>279623549
Some artists just want to have their favorite ship have a kid with each other but with no men involved.

>>279623610
Yuri and transfolk have an important place in the anime industry.

>>279623549
Girls in yuri have babies via science or magic. It doesn't have to involve a dick.

It’s a bit silly when these trans characters will function as a yuri anime girl and won’t have the main features that would make them indicative of being a biological male. They will look, dress, talk, and sound like a real women so there’s no need for any hostility. Honestly, it would be better if there were more people to share the passion for women only relationships, and that’s perfect. I think they deserve to be represented in the yuri genre.

>>279623622
Why do you keep insisting that transwomen are men? You're the only one who keeps going in circles like this.

>>279620678 (OP)
no because then I get horny for them and that ruins it for me.

>>279623726
>Man: an adult male human being
>Male: of or denoting the sex that produces gametes, especially spermatozoa, with which a female may be fertilized or inseminated to produce offspring
Do transwomen produce or used to produce spermatozoa with which a female may be fertilized? If the answer is yes, then they're male. If they are adult males, then they're men.

>>279623841
Bro this is animanga, transfolk can easily be close to full genderbend, there's no need to be constrained by irl.

>>279623712
In scifi that are posthuman, trannies are a non issue, everyone would be able to swap bodies and genders at will, and there wouldn't be any stigma attached to being a tranny that would preclude it from lesbian relationships like today with our imperfect bio cope methods
At it's core on /a/ at least, a tranny schizo had a meltdown over /u/ not thinking that onimai is yuri and dedicates it's time to seething about yurifags not liking men and falseflagging bait and spam threads like this, and it's delusions about all of /u/ being a tranny or something

>>279624092
>dedicates it's time to seething about yurifags not liking men
Yurifags like men though, as long as they don't get between the girls.

At the end of the day Otaku culture is very open minded and accepting of all kinds of LGBTQ+ so I don't get this pointless argument and thread.

>>279624195
No one says that the T's can't make their own works where they date women. They just can't call it yuri.

>>279624364
Why not? If it looks like a duck, quacks like a duck, the creators say its a duck, then it's a duck.

>>279622117
Both are bad and you're scum.

>>279624424
Because yuri is about, to use your language: "ciswomen x ciswomen". Get a new flower.

>>279624432
You don't belong here.

>>279624560
No, yuri isn't about ciswomen. Nobody ever said that but right-wingers. Yuri is about women. Fullstop.

>>279624614
Kill yourself.

>>279624560
Stop replying to it and let this shit thread die, there was never any intent for genuine discussion here.

>>279624112
the schizo is weird, it seems to be of the self hating cope kind and that becoming a mtf tranny is the ultimate man, and associates hating trannies with hating men, enough that it spam falseflags whenever it sees a man in a yuri anime

Trannies are just born in the wrong time like all of history, even here where 2D is king there's way too much 3D stigma and schizophrenia for it to work out well

>>279620678 (OP)
Yes and I hope we start seeing them more frequently in yuri media and spaces.

>>279620678 (OP)
>looks just like his ex
Tale as old as time.

>>279624642
It needs to be fucking deleted.

>>279620678 (OP)
>yuritrannies

>>279624714
Based

>>279622117
how about this:
faggots pretending they are trannies should be exterminated

>>279625285
Incels pretending to love yuri should be exterminated

>>279625315
But that would fucking decimate the trans population anon.

>>279625315
you're contributing to the downfall of your species and no one will remember you

Schizophrenic retards should kys, ty

>>279623178
bullshit
a lot of them are closet degenerates who watch lesbian porn
people don't really care if the lesbians are hot

>>279626263
So then why would they care if a woman was a trans woman or not if they're hot?

>>279620678 (OP)
This would only be kino if she gets cucked by a man that rails her ex extremely hard into a prostate orgasm so her ex never wants anything to do with her or women and their vaginas ever again.

I prefer the shuukura discourse to whatever the fuck this is

>>279620678 (OP)
So it's a heterosexual romance?

>>279622117
>many Japanese artists and mangaka outright saying they are the same thing and support it!
Name 4, including the citation.