OK but how is this a Shonen manga? What is appealing about this to boys?

because it's published in Weekly Shonen Magazine
it says it right there

naked girls?

>>279670572 (OP)
we like ntr

>wildly successful manga with 40 volumes, 4 anime seasons, and /a/ can't shut the fuck up about it
You're right Mr. Industry Expert, there's no way this appeals to its audience.

>40 volumes
I wish nothing but pain and suffering to those who bought this kuso manga

>>279670572 (OP)
>Simp-A-Whore

>>279671050

>>279670572 (OP)
demographics haven't mattered for a long long time and they'll run the most girlsloppy shoujo in a magazine that is nominally for boys as long as someone buys it

>>279670572 (OP)
Having a gf is appealing to boys. So what if you could rent one? Yup. I don't see what could wrong with this idea.

>>279671133
Rent A Girlfriend is clearly not aimed at a female audience. Like 90% of romance manga/anime is shonen.

>>279671133
>girlsloppy shoujo
It's more about ho you draw it really. Naked girls or flowers surrounding pretty guys.

>>279670572 (OP)
Chorizo kinda looks like Tifa

>>279670572 (OP)
shounen was stolen from boys and turned into femoid's manga

>>279670572 (OP)
Danjo's Chizuru

>>279671133
Harem (Infinite Stratos) have always been a shounen staple, it is not like this is full shoujo, just harem-adjacent. Native harem.

>>279670672
/thread

>>279670572 (OP)

Shonen Jump published shit like First Love Limited back in the 2000's. The publication has never been strictly about the "shonen" genre; it's just stories that boys would read.

>>279670572 (OP)

>>279670572 (OP)
ENTER

For fuck's sake, shut up about this trash

Because 100% of the readers are male.

>>279671609
Shounen is not a genre.

>>279671133
the fact that autistic teenage boys on the internet will not fucking shut up about this manga tells me it has landed the target demographic

>>279671777
??? this is an actual page?

>>279672122
>autistic
yes
>teenage boys
lel if only

>>279672230
It's actual 2 page spread. Reiji thinks shit like this is worth spreads.

I wish someone made chart/ranking of Reiji's 2 page spreads. Like one with inside of washing machine showing Chorizo's bra.

>>279672553
what even is the fucking context
the only thing it could be is the protag finally getting to score after 300 chapters and then she comes out with this

>>279672012
Yes it is. It's English name is unfortunately the same word as Japanese 少年漫画 which refers to the industry's marketing strategy but that's all

>>279672591
They were concerned she might be pregnant from all of her rentals.

>>279672645
No it's not you fucking retard. It doesn't describe anything about plot of the series.

>>279672591
They were living together in her grandma's house after she died due to gas leak or someother shit in theirs apartaments (Mini too). Spread doesn't mean anything lik 99% of spreads Reiji does.

>>279673202
>living together
Not quite enough context.

>>279670572 (OP)
Harems are considered shonen battle manga

>>279673240
It doesn't mean anything. Nothing ever happens.

>>279673167
Yes it does. Everyone - including you - instantly knows what is meant by "shounen genre." It's unfortunate you were born too early to get prenatal gene therapy to cure your autism

>>279673273
Usually harem anime doesn't have the main character constantly fantasizing about NTR.

>>279673335
They don't you fucking retard. Battle manga were published in both shounen and seinen magazines, this one can be called a genre but it's simply action/adventure.

>>279673335
Shonen means "young boy", that's it. They're called shonen magazines because they publish shonen manga, not the other way around.

Genre doesn't matter. If the target audience is boys, it's a shonen series.

>>279673378
You are fully aware that "shounen genre" refers to something far more specific than just a manga with battles and that the specific thing it refers to is manga that copy the formula established by Dragon Ball. Why pretend this is not the case?

>>279673417
fuck off you stupid tourist cunt

>>279670572 (OP)
On the contrary, what would be appealing about this to women?
The main character is pathetic and it's focused on a bunch of pretty ladies. Plus it's a harem manga, and most romances aimed at women have a clear central love interest.

>>279673408
Except all magazines nowadays aim for as broad appeal as possible. Half of BnHA fanbase are fujos, in Japan probably majority.
>>279673417
Shounen means only that manga is published in shounen magazines. Doesn't matter about the plot. Lucky Star, Yotsuba&, DomeKano, Kusokari are shounen manga.

>>279673417
>the formula established by Dragon Ball
Lurk for two years and read 100 manga before having this conversation again.

It's gonna become a battle manga where he fights every guy that wants her to the death. Trust the plan.

>>279673408
what about multiple target audiences?
Is this a seinen?

>>279673475
>clear central love interest
sounds like this is a romance aimed at women then

>>279673485
>>279673408
It means that in *Japanese* The eisei-nihongo word shounen doesn't meant that though, sort of like anime or lolicon or shoujo-ai

>>279673522
Isn't that Scott Pilgrim vs the world?

>>279673567
This is English language board not Japanese.

>>279673728
Yeah exactly that's why when someone talks about shounen like a genre we immediately recognize they are speaking English and using the English word in its normal way. This is what OP and the people who deny the shounen genre exists are both confused about

>>279673786
It's not a genre, fucktard.

>>279673831
Yes it is. The Japanese call it battle manga

>>279673567
>eisei-nohongo
Can zoomers stop behaving like this please? You didn't coin a new phrase to describe a native concept using a foreign word, you just started using a word without properly asking what it means and it turns out that you were using it wrong. Learn some goddamn humility

>>279674081
Native isekai

>>279674062
Because that's what it's called, retard

>>279674081
https://soranews24.com/2020/02/12/the-u-k-thinks-japanese-curry-is-katsu-curry-and-people-arent-happy-about-it/

40 volumes in 8 years is crazy. He is really pumping this garbage out quick

>>279674128
It's just called isekai, zoomer clowns made up the "nonono isekai means they were transported TO another world" part

>>279674253
For reference, Golden Kamuy has 314 chapters while this has 380.

I swear /a/ acts like telenovella obsessed grannies when it comes to romcoms

>>279674062
Stop caring so much about their language.

>>279674332

>>279674287
Isekai refers to the protagonist coming from "another world" (the "real" world), not the story taking place in another world

If the protagonist is from that world, it's just a fantasy story

>>279674253
He also does another shitty manga that has anime now and it's dogshit outside animation/artstyle.

>>279674253
He just loves his cuck fantasy that much.

>>279674386
only by your zoomer "eisei nihongo" definition it does
>but muh dictionary
descriptivist hacks flailing to remain relevant when nobody is buying their books by canonizing words like "twerk" and "selfie" don't count for much

>>279674287
Isekai barely qualifies as a genre. The protagonist coming from another world is mostly just there so they can act as an audience surrogate and have things explained to them (and by extension the audience) that a character that grew up in this world would already know.

Once they and the audience are up to speed on how this world operates, it becomes indistinguishable from any other fantasy story.

>>279674498

>>279670572 (OP)
Redpill me on this manga /a/, is it at some capacity funny, or just coomer bait? If the later, how close to hentai are we talking about?

>>279674498
which is why many works don't bother with the reincarnation or transportation aspect at all and why we have native isekai, but it doesn't become not isekai just because it doesn't have what zoomer clowns thought was the operative element

>>279670834
Unironically I do, does this manga delivers good ntr?

>>279674543
There are times when it reads like a Dragon Ball cuck fantasy shitpost. It's cringekino.

>>279674543
It's just an endless repetition of one girl stealing the mc so he can be stolen by someone else.

>>279674543
if you're looking for fanservice it's still printed in a mainstream shounen magazine and the best you're going to get is underwear and women implied to be naked
in this sense (and in pretty much every other sense) Takamine-san is better

>>279671737
jesus look at those saggers, does she play soccer with those?

>>279674714

>>279674831
In Koushi's NTR fantasies Takane has nipples

>>279674831
its such a shame they censor nipples now

>>279674498
Genre is fantasy, isekai is just a description of MC in the story

>>279674498
Obviously false. Only a legitimate retard would be unable to understand what it is that makes Mushoku Tensei and Outbreak Company similar to each other and different from Seirei no Moribito or Mononoke-hime

>>279674831
so the girlfriends for rent are just whores? what's the difference here?

>>279674930
>>279674976
glad this retard showed up again, almost like he has a filter that notifies him any time anyone says "native isekai"

>>279675081
A whore would have kept taking the money.

>>279675159

>>279674128
if you belong on /a/ you know the term is naroushit

>>279675195
there's low fantasy and even romcom narou though

>>279675195
reverse narou

>>279670572 (OP)
It's not. Cucking men is a female fantasy, but NTR is Japan's favorite genre. Look at all the ugly bastard and BLACKED NTR on pixiv. mostly the latter as of the last decade.

>>279675118
Native isekai is real but Frieren is only a partial example

>>279675316
Only women get cucked here.

>>279675356
yeah, Frieren is on the periphery but the real offenders are shit like the Unaware Atelier Meister and Girumasu

>>279675232
people say native isekai because they mean "this work feels exactly like isekai but the plot is different". The reason it feels exactly like isekai is that they're both canned plots used by hobby writers on the same fanfic website, Narou.

It's absolutely retarded to bring up that like Slayers had the isekai plot, that has absolutely nothing to do with why people notice that "I got kicked from the adventuring party" naroushit feels like "reincarnated in another world" naroushit. It's just from the same fucking website culture and the same hobby writers. There was never any need to reference the plots.

>>279675081
That's the funny part, the entire sequence it's a fantasy made up by the MC

>>279675661
not talking to you wikipedia-kun

>>279674577
>ESL
>NTR enjoyer
Like fucking pottery

>>279675694
I swear to christ
confucius sama why do they reject the rectification of names

>>279670572 (OP)
Ok anons, how much more do you think this manga alone will make young men hate women?

So does the MC ever actually fuck anyone? Does the main girl really just go around fucking other men? I've never read it and from the title alone I always assumed it was cuck shit.

>>279675836
>never read it
>assumed it was cuck shit
this is your brain fried by porn

>>279675881
Am I wrong? Literally everything I've ever seen about this shit is the MC getting rejected and thinking about the main girl getting fucked while he was off doing fuck knows what. Feel free to actually answer my question instead of being a faggot.

>>279675836
>So does the MC ever actually fuck anyone?
Implied after it completely ends, probably. Or no.
>Does the main girl really just go around fucking other men?
No, she has only ever kissed the MC.
>I've never read it and from the title alone I always assumed it was cuck shit.
It is, it's just the women cucking other women. The MC is never cucked.

>>279675952
So tell me for real, is this actually worth reading? Very rarely do I ever hear anything positive about it.

>>279675952
don't spoonfeed
>>279675987
actually fuck off and lurk two years

>>279675987
Most of the things people say are just memes because it's a memeable story, but they are usually just lies because it's funnier that way, but it's a masterpiece.

>>279670572 (OP)
Purchasing affection with money.

Reminder that girlfriends for rent are a thing IRL too

>>279676111
>one girl for an entire major city

>>279676111
did you think Reiji invented the concept because he couldn't publish a hooker manga in a shounen magazine?

>>279670572 (OP)
Honest question.
Why do people keep reading this? I sure haven't but I only hear bad things about it. The guy is a loser cuck and a simp. The girls are ungrateful whores. The arcs go nowhere. The mangaka is a hack.
Yet is basically the most popular manga in /a/ right now, so what's the deal?

>>279676128
Nah, I've seen in the news that Japan had girlfriend for rent for years, but some fags here might think its not real lol

>>279676111
It's called enjo kōsai and it has been a thing for decades.

>>279676004
You're brown, aren't you?
>>279676053
Is it a masterpiece or a "masterpiece"? I'm always looking for more romance stuff but I'm not interested in a "so bad it's good" type thing.

>>279676111
>>279676217
this shit is hilarious and just like in the manga, makes you wonder why would anyone buy this shit

>>279676238
It's a pretty standard love story with a pretty obvious conclusion.

>>279676280
>girls ranged from 18 - 60 y/o
>girls
>60 y/o

>>279676111
>>279676280
this is genuinely worse than just paying for a hooker, I know it's been a thing since forever but having to pay for affection is the bottom of the barrel

>>279676301
yea pretty obvious conclusion LMAO this retard gets fucking rejected stop lying to him

>>279676238
It's your average harem. Anons read it for the cute girls, the memes, and the waifu wars while hating the protagonist and the story progression, or lack of.

>>279676217
pretty sure the legit framework with agencies and no-touch policies is newer than the old process of soliciting high school girls for prostitution
unless it's been the same thing the whole time and they run on massage parlor rules and you can fuck the renkano if you ask the right way
>>279676111
>>279676280
this site sure reads like an AMP ad

>>279676238
He's bullshiting you. 380+ chapters of the same repetitive bullshit that makes up the laughing stock of the genre. If you actually like romance, stay away.

>>279676322
>having to pay for affection is the bottom of the barrel
haven't you heard whore testimonies that mention some clients only want to cuddle? they dont even ask the woman to get naked, they just want to be hugged

>>279676336
>rejected AGAIN
How many times do people really expect to say the sky is falling and have people believe them.
There has never been a rejection.

>>279676384
>im sorry i can't date you with my current lifestyle
>i need to keep whoring myself out to random men who pay me
have you never talked to a woman? this is a rejection retard she's not going to date him if he's not paying her

>>279676424
see >>279675189
This might work on someone who hasn't read it.

>>279676364
Enjo kōsai doesn't imply prostitution, or even physical touch. Some do of course, but that's not what it is about. They just go on dates and hang around old men.

>>279671673
Cope

>>279676280
>can kiss and give you a naked massage but nothing "sexual"
LOL, lmao even

>>279671609
Hatsukoi Limited is complete young man wish fulfillment for waifu though.

>>279671753
Seeing the Day in the Life episode where he said he was able to easily meet the weekly schedule was unbelievable until I read the manga and understood it took him half the time because he wrote a fourth of the typical content.

How many threads so far?
18? 19?

>>279671556
>>279671753
Realizing this was the same guy that wrote AKB49 really made a lot of sense. The ending for this series is going to be terrible.

>>279676957
He didn't write that.

>>279676280
>>279676322
>>279676793
They only say that for legal reasons. Of course they'll have sex with you if you pay them what they ask. It's like in soapland where you pay a girl to rub your back naked, and she coincidentally falls in love with the you during that time and has totally non-remunerated sex.

>>279676980
Could've fooled me. I guess just illustration only with the same situation as the guy re-doing OPM.

>>279671753
He's kinda cute

>>279676995
>she coincidentally falls in love with the you during that time
Pick a girl from these pictures then fuck her, that's it they don't really do those games in practice. Not even a pretense of a facade.

>>279677089
Dude, I'm not saying they do. That's the legal defense and how those places are allowed to operate despite prostitution being illegal.

>>279677248
So they know who the investigators are and play pretend only around them? I have just never seen anyone appear to give even half a fuck.

>>279677305
No, idiot. You need to improve your reading comprehension. That's what they say to the judge to get away, no one plays pretend.

>>279677305
All they have to do is to get the investigator to tell his boss that he saw nothing, and they happen to be a business that deals in things that men enjoy

>>279677305
Wtf are you talking about? See >>279677350
In the US, even if the police catch you with your penis inside some chinese masseuse, you can escape jail if you claim you only paid for the massage and that sex happened by chance because you liked each other. They have no way to prove otherwise.

>>279671135
Not a real gf if you have to pay her to keep her.

>>279677534
>he thinks that's any different from a real gf

>>279677534
They are already living together.

>>279677534
Sounds like the average gen x marriage.

>>279677576
Haven't gotten that far but weren't they all but ordered by their respective grandparents to move in together at least to save money since as far as they knew they were still dating? Also if they're living together and she's still accepting money to rental date him then she's completely in the wrong

>>279676898
Kanokari is practically written by itself so Reiji decided to serialize another manga on top of it

>>279676819
Hatsukoi limited had multiple pairs

>>279677682
No, an earthquake ruins their apartment, and since Chizuru is investigating her feelings toward Kazuya, Mini convinces her that they should all stay together since this would make her investigation easier. They are not doing rentals.

This all sounds like an absolute miserable experience to read, but at least the anime is paced like an anime and is pretty good as long as it manages to keep momentum and nothing terrible happens
>>279677765
Shark: Jumped
Welp, at least Chizuru is hot

>>279677923
So you are mad that he isn't a simp anymore?

>>279670572 (OP)
>Genre: Harem, Romantic comedy

>>279671695
Unironically, if you can't accept that as good storytelling, you are just low IQ. You are saying that you are such a fucking monkey that instead of perceiving the story, your dick takes control and your mind shut off, causing you to be unable to qualify to even judge a story to begin with.

>>279670572 (OP)
Big BAZOONGAS
>B-but whore
>B-but SIMP
>B-but NTR
Most "normal" boys just care about BIG BOOBA, everything else is inconsequential. It's like as a child you didn't care about balding until you got older and started to notice it. Growing up poisons you.

>>279678088
You can see big, clothes boobs without shelling out money. And big boobs isn't uncommon among girls. And if you move to another girl you could maybe even get big unclothed boobs.

>>279670572 (OP)
>man fighting for his right to love a paid hooker

I'm just glad that there has been no Ruka for about 40 chapters.

>>279672591
>context
Kazuya thought Chizuru was sick so he went all out, bought cold meds and made dinner for her, but when she came home she saw everything and had to reveal it was a period and not a cold.

>>279678147
I'm not talking about MC whatever his name is anon, I'm talking about young boys reading this. Reiji is a HACK, but he's at least good at character design for the girls. They are DELICIOUS and that's what sells.

>>279678258
Well, similarly, there are plenty of manga with girls with big boobs that don't have NTR or NTR bait.

>>279678277
And those get axed in the regularly and don't sell. If you can see the magic in Reiji's character design, there's nothing else I can say, he already has two ongoing manga adapted, that's proof of something.

>>279678277
Who cares about Kazuya getting NTR'd?

>>279678498
Why care about something that never happens?

>>279675373
lol this almost got me
are we sure it's appropriate to be lusting after Chizuru's body? she might have a mental disability for all the shit she does tolerate and take at face value

>>279670572 (OP)
Sexy girls, bam, there's your answer. Who else do you think it could appeal to?

>>279676149
I only ever see hate threads, no idea what you're talking about.

>>279678836
Is this a hate thread?

>>279673352
it's a deconstruction.

>>279679007
do you know what that actually means?

>>279678215
The other roommate already told him it was period.

>>279672591
MC is completely crazy obsessed with her so anything she does seems godly.

Been this way since chapter 1 anyway

>>279679699
Mini never told him.

>>279679540
Of course.

>>279679540
He's right, it's a cautionary tale about unchecked simping.

You really want to drool over a girl like Kazuya? Seems like unneccesary suffering.

>>279680013
It's clearly the opposite. >>279678358

>>279671153
shounen hasn't meant for boys since saiki k and kuroko

He's finally made his move.

>>279675710
Whats wrong with my E? Is it because I used 'does' and 'delivers'?

>>279680455
It would just be "deliver"

>>279675929
>Am I wrong?
Yes, incel.

>>279678258
>Pop Up Shop
they had one today and I saw a bunch of profiles posting pics online

for the past few westoids assured everyone that japs were done with this manga cause of the last chapter kek

>>279670714
It's honestly incredible how this entire incident had ZERO (0) consequences at all.

>>279674806
She plays with my balls iykwim

>>279680778
Even Mami got away with what she did.

>>279672591

>>279680037
it's a subversion of deconstructions. sasuga

>>279671362
Cats Eye ran in JUMP in the 80s.

>>279671050
>the author thought this was profound
Couldn't he at least made the dude look serious?

>>279681602
Well he made him look like a jerk in other scenes.

>was she cute
>I guess so
behold the dumbest man alive

This is an excellent cautionary tale for young boys to teach them women ain't nothing but a drain on your bank account. Reminder that Kazuya has dumped, like, hundreds of thousands of yen on Choziro by this point.

>>279682491
>cautionary tale
Be careful or you might end up married to the hottest girl in Japan.

>>279674831
>school ribbon on
based

>>279671133
Witch Watch?

>>279670572 (OP)
It teaches boys how to be proper men (by blackpilling them).

Mami: I can't believe she'd go so far as to have his children to keep this lie going

>>279670672
Comedy
+
HAREM

>>279671777
>>279672230
Never saw a problem with that page. Do anons here not know how women works or something? Like fuck, it's even weird she's so fucking wary about it, it's just periods

>>279678469
It's not just the character design though, many manga with sexy girls get axed constantly. Reiji is good at keeping people engaged with his carrot and stick approach, look at how long the manga is already

>>279672645
Shounen is a demographic. It can be a ton of things - sports, mysteries, action, romance, SoL - as long as it's aimed at the teen boy demo, it's shounen. The same goes for shoujo.

>>279682951
It's more about giving it a fucking double page spread.

>>279683192
Don't see a problem with that either honestly: cute girl drawing + serious moment, nothing wrong with that.
There have been far worse and useless spreads

>>279683252
>serious
>chorizo is... a human being?

>>279683347
As far as I'm aware she is

>>279670572 (OP)
Shounen isn't just for 12 year old boys.
Shounen is for everyone, normalfags of all ages and genders.
Seinen on the other hand is just for fat smelly otaku.

>>279682951
>that page
Pirates will NEVER be able to properly experience manga the way it was meant to be read