Thread 279679817

How do you feel that the Akiba that was featured in Oreimo no longer exists?

>most anime fans nowadays don't even know oreimo
>most anime fans who do, find oreimo "icky"

>>279679826
are these "most anime fans" in the room with us

>2017
Akiba died after this anime

>>279679817 (OP)
How do you feel that the world you grew up in no longer exists?

>>279679817 (OP)
What are you talking about?

>>279679817 (OP)
I don't live in Japan so I don't care

>>279679817 (OP)
Same as how the US yhat you grew up in no longer exist and you are being replaced.

Kinda funny

>>279679869
How do you feel that the cells that once made up your body no longer exist and were all replaced?

>>279679817 (OP)
Sad
I wish I had visited it during it's golden anime otaku time.

>>279680052
Great because they were replaced by much superior GOURMET CELLS

>>279679871
It was destroyed in a terrorist attack.

>>279680106
What was destroyed?

>>279679817 (OP)
What do the otakus do now that Akiba is no more?

Are they still alive?

>>279680112
>How do you feel that the Akiba that was featured in Oreimo no longer exists?

>>279680118
gacha and v-tubers

>>279680121
Why can't I find any news about this? It looks to me like you're making shit up.

>>279680149
Damn they became lazy and brainrotted

>>279680154
They are just covering it up because such a failure of the state would be embarrassing

>>279680149
Grim

akiba is just overpriced shit

>>279680149
People got mad that Konata is into VTubers but that's exactly what she'd do

>>279680101
really gourmet post

>>279679817 (OP)
It's still there. Just a massive tourist trap. And I get the feeling it was a massive tourist trap even back in the early 2010s.

>>279680162
>>279680184
>>279680230
I mean just look up most popular entries in comicket... all v-tubers and gacha.

>>279680301
It used to be gathering places for nerd communities, but there's no point in doing that anymore since we're ONLINE nowadays. Convenience trumps all.

>>279679817 (OP)
Akiba was always just a place otaku gathered to find the items they wanted.
There's no magic dirt there that gives it special claim to the "holy land" for otaku, it owed a lot of its success due to the fact that it was conveniently located.
Sure Akiba has lost its otaku-ness, but I hear you can find the same vibe in other parts of Tokyo like Ikebukuro and the like.

Also some ITT might have interest in a video on the state of Akihabara that came out last week (I suspect OP made this thread in response to that). Patrick Galbraith, longtime anime scholar, gives his take on the changes around the neighborhood. He talks about the post COVID police crackdowns and the wave of normalfag consumers, Chinese/Korean/LatAm tourists and prostitution/gambling joints.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o4y_j329Y_Y&inv-redirect=0

The column of images on the left is old Akiba, on the right you see more recent footage. The fifth image from the top on the right is apparently a corner that used to be plastered with ads for bishoujo media. The last image on the right column was formerly where Gamers placed their big iconic sign of Dejiko; it got taken down and all that's left is a faint shadow.

>>279680542
>massage shop of cute girls
Upgrades were necessary, nice to see things getting better.

W
>>279680542
e could have had this instead

>>279680480
Isn't japan still a very physical-media oriented place? They have lots of events and doujins after all.

>>279680542
There's also a popular japanese channel that covers akiba and otaku stores all over Japan since many years ago.
https://www.youtube.com/@habushiura/videos
I think everyone simple went online.

>>279680542
>refle esstinal
is this with happy ending or just dry humping?

>>279680682
>date to buy a tv
>half of the remote is quick buttons for streaming services

>>279680682
Convention and events stuff are different since you have to physically attend.
We're talking about buying general goods here like electronics, games and regularly published manga.

>>279680050
True, crime rates were like 3x worse when I was a kid when there were fewer minorities. But how does that relate yo otaku culture

>>279680050
>and you are being replaced.
Oh you mean like how the natives who were here first got displaced and killed off? That's life bud

>>279680751
No I don't mean whites are being systemically killed. I mean that I can't convince a girl to have kids with me, which is practically genocide.

Think of great replacement this way. Say you have a bowl of oranges, it contains 100% oranges. Then you add another orange plus an apple. It now contains 92% oranges. The oranges are being replaced and eradicated by simple math

>>279680542
>but I hear you can find the same vibe in other parts of Tokyo like Ikebukuro
EH, kind of. I just went to Japan last month and went to both Akihabara and Ikebukuro to gawk at the otaku stuff. Ikebukuro firmly remains oriented towards the female demographic, even the massive Animate store mainly skews towards female otaku. Akihabara remains largely aimed at the male otaku demographic but these days online shopping is the best way to get decent prices.

>>279680935
>Ikebukuro firmly remains oriented towards the female demographic, even the massive Animate store mainly skews towards female otaku
damn, so yuri stuff are rare in ikebukuro.

>>279680863
Deep. I hate oranges though

>>279680149
Actually accurate, unironically.

Weebs really couldn't shut the fuck up about Japan and now it's ruined.

>>279680717
There's less crime because nobody goes out anymore. The world is dull, boring and isolated now. The late 20th century was cool and unpredictable. Now it's computers and (anti)social media everywhere you look.

Old otaku stories/trivia is so soulful.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iMrYJioDdkE

the #1 reason

>>279681206
Yeah it absolutely has nothing to do with the fact that most countries are surveillance states now

>>279680542
So, what happened, gentrification pushed the specialist shops out and got replaced by mainstream shops and apartments or something?
That always seems to happen with specialised parts of town now.

>>279679817 (OP)
shut up. stop talking. never post again.

>>279679833
theyre in the room called shittok

>>279681281
there was nothing wrong with the post.

The iconic Mister Donut
>>279680672 from this show
>>279680542 and pictured top left
shut down just last year

>>279680863
not a single orange was replaced or removed in your metaphor so whatever math you think you’re doing is wrong

>>279680542
Good video on the History of Akihabara.

Akiba's Trip is a nice time capsule to experience 2013 Akihabara otaku culture

>>279680542
>normalfag consumers
These killed Akiba

>>279681645
Magical Destroyer and Rumble Garandoll if you want the shallow fake versions

>>279681725
poser spotted

>>279681645
I really like the first game, played it like crazy on psp back in the day. Surprisingly had some depths.
The second one was ok but missing the original's charm, depth, and items quite a bit.

>>279681751
the anime not the game. >>279679868

>>279681786
The games are only faithful to the akiba setting but didn't really explore it like the anime did. The plot is too serious and there isn't much side contents.

>>279680639
They accept foreigners. Automatically 0 stars.

>>279680863
I'd use a garden instead.
With immigrants being weeds.

>>279680542
>Dejiko faded
>Japan Tax-Free Shop
This one probably hurt the most for me. Anything with that Tax-Free Shop logo is worse than a random strip mall anime store in the US. It's sad to see how many cattle flock to those places and they push out legitimate small businesses or niche retailers to push more shitty fridge magnets, chinese shounen figs and chopsticks.
The good news is that there are dozens of akiba-type otaku neighborhoods or shopping streets littered across Japan and the worst of the damage is mostly limited to the original Akiba

>>279681276
It's a combination of digital media and marketplaces proliferating, moving hobbies entirely online or in apps, and tourists flooding the area. When I see foreigners in akihabara with their children or pointing and laughing I'm filled with hatred

God hates Riajuu
Riajuu die | God laughs

>>279682130
>When I see foreigners in akihabara with their children or pointing and laughing I'm filled with hatred
And you are 100% pureblooded Yayoi-descended Yamato stock, correct?

I first moved to Japan (to Tokyo) back in 2015 and even back then it felt very touristy. Aimed mostly at Chinese tours.
Though of course some small shops in the backstreets, and the eroge floors in large electronic stores still existed.
Then I moved away from Tokyo and only visited again last year. Felt mostly the same, but more China and less of the old stuff.

>>279680542
>>279682130
All you need to do is start organized killings of foreigners in Japan.

>>279682259
What are the Chinese tourists like? Do they travel in groups?

>>279682130
>>279682259
>When I see foreigners in akihabara with their children or pointing and laughing I'm filled with hatred
>I first moved to Japan (to Tokyo) back in 2015 and even back then it felt very touristy
no self awareness

>>279682286
Loud. Yes, some travel in group tours.
Also let me add that last year I also saw a lot of SEA people. And for example, SEA families with kids going to maid cafes and such.

>>279682303
I'd like to think I did my due dilligence by learning Japanese and moving here long term.

>>279682303
You don't understand, you see, I'm special, okay...those OTHER guys though? Yeah they need to be sent to the chemical showers so I can enjoy Japan in peace. Not me though...

Akiba's prices were too high so of course it would be on decline. I guess maid cafe should do fine.

>>279682343
I wonder how damaging the popularity of JAV has been in tempting in the sextourists?

>>279682130
On the plus side I see people getting very jaded about streaming services and the appification of everything so I think at the very least physical media will have a small bounce back, obviously not as big as before but hopefully enough to keep it relevant.

>>279682343
Yes, actually.

>>279682403
At the very least for audio the market for vinyl records has grown. Even in Akihabara big anime merch shops were selling vinyl records of anime soundtracks.

>>279682338
>SEA
Came back from Japan 2 weeks ago and probably the most insufferably annoying assholes I encountered were Indonesians. Luckily they only know about the popular tourist spots so it's not that hard to avoid them.

>>279680863
That's because white men are asperger as fuck when it comes to dating, also they don't know how to shower

>>279681206
Saying this in an anonymous board is so fucking ironic

>>279682504
>>279682343

>>279682555
You're way too obvious about being brown.

>>279680052
They weren't. The atoms that make up the cells are though, but many cells human beings just keep for life.
But pretty much every atom in one's body is replaced after 6 years, yes.

>>279680052
>le ship of theseus
One thing is replaced by something completely identical to it while the other by something completely different, if anything at all. Apples to oranges.

It's sad that old Akiba is dead but apparently Den Den Town over in Osaka is something like what the old Akiba was like.

>>279681645
Denkigai no Honya-san would be a good companion piece to that, although the focus is more on running a doujinshi store in Akiba.

>>279682683
>Den Den Town over in Osaka is something like what the old Akiba was like
tons of western youtubers already made bunch of vlogs about it with tens of thousands of viewers each so that can't be

>>279682683
Yes, but it's still overrun with tourists. I hope it atleast somewhat dies down after the Expo ends.

>>279682683
I've been to Den Den Machi, it's a scaled-down Akihabara. It's very much a touristy place.

>>279682587
>Skin tone out of nowhere
Ah, so now you're being honest about what this is really about. People like you are the worst.

>>279682257
>>279682303
>>279682343
Defeatist cuck mentality. You can be a good foreigner. It's as easy as being a good person. If you can't do that, you're as worthless in your own country as anywhere else. This crab bucket shit is disgusting.
>Don't go anywhere, don't expect any better, you have to be a disgusting waste of space like myself and everyone you complain about
You can be better, but I understand if for someone like you it's more comforting to imagine nobody else can.

>>279682845
You're projecting while those posters were pointing out the curious irony that exists on the surface level of those posts. Obviously there are decent and not-so-decent foreigners.

>>279682845
ok sure you can be "the special one" but there are thousands... millions of people who think like that... and suddenly x place is filled with nothing but foreigners. I'm not only talking about Japan by the way.

>>279682683
Den Den is better, but it's like the number two obvious place to go to for tourists. Now [REDACTED], now that's the place to find the good shit these days.

>>279682872
Asagaya?

>>279682683
Yeah, no. Fuck Kansai.

>american couple laughing at doujins in Melonbooks

every single time, I want to punch these retards

>>279682833
Now you're 200% obvious. (Previously 100%.)

>>279682889
What the fuck did Kansai ever do to you

>>279682927
Just come out and say it.

>>279679871
It was not destroyed in a terrorist attack likee >>279680106 says. It was gentrified out. Akihabara was a low rent shopping district that specialized in electronics right next to a train station, and eventually became the place where home computer(and videogame console) shops opened up, which made it a hotspot for otaku, and then this reputation carried it for a few decades, but by the 2010's, it was being gentrified out, and at this point, it is more of a tourist district meant to fleece people who think it's still relevant to otaku.

The otaku featured in Oreimo don't exist either.

>>279682872
Doubt you're referring to Nakano Broadway since I heard Mandarake took over many of the shops that were closed due to covid.

>>279682958
there was no Quattro Vagina!?

>>279682954
This is the official cover-up story spread by the government and mass media about the recent terrorist attack

>>279682386
I've noticed an unusually large amount of japanese egirls(mostly plus size ones) posing with black guys who are clearly simps who paid out the nose.

>>279682794
Why do you type like a 6 year old?

>>279682881
>>279682959
I'm outside of Tokyo, I'm not sharing any more detail.

Nakano is still alright, but it's like half empty now, plus they shut down Kinshobo.

50,000 otaku used to shop here

>>279682949
That many dark-skinned peoples are the obnoxiously annoying ones here? That's common knowledge. Why are you acting like I'm hiding my knowledge of this fact?

Same with Chinese and Americans, btw.

Just act normal and noone will have any issue with you.

You can still visit the countryside parts of japan and pretend that you are in NNB or another rural anime, right?

>>279682985
You can see the amount of damage the porn industry did to whites, It's probably only going to get worse for JAVs what with all the bbc/cuckshit shilling

>>279683035
Yes

>>279682985
>mostly plus size ones
>clearly simps who paid out the nose
Shameful. Can you really call yourself an architect if you didn't build it yourself?

>>279683011
I am an ESP with mind reading abilities and I know exactly what you are talking about. Don’t worry, I won’t share.

>>279680639
>>279680698
Don't go to Akihabara for sex stuff, guaranteed tourist trap. You have to go to Shinjuku or Yoshiwara for that.

>>279683011
>Nakano is still alright, but it's like half empty now, plus they shut down Kinshobo
Damn shame. I didn't have the time to visit Nakano during my recent trip.

Another tourists pretending that they're not tourists thread?

>>279683006
T_T

>>279683063
What's your plan? Die and get a better lot in the next life?

>>279683063
I am a special Aryan god and my presence in Japan is more than welcome, I am worshipped here. This is my fertile clay. The Japanese are the real tourists. The least they can do is shoo these brown beasts away.

>>279680542
>youtube
Ignored

>>279683061
Where do I go if I want to have sex with anime girls? I hate 3dpd

>>279683063
I at least have the courtesy to know my place, be polite and apologetic for being a tourist with limited Japanese speaking skills. I keep quiet, keep to myself and for a brief moment, I get to live in Japan.

>>279683090
Post hand, eyes, hair and nose.

>>279683127
Get out, invader.

>>279683035
Yeah and the people are really friendly. Some elderly couple formally welcomed me in Japan and spent a while talking with me, then like 50 highschoolers on a trip passed by me and all enthusiastically greeted me.

Honestly, the most amusing thing about Akihabara is seeing the most stereotypical dirty old salarymen quietly buy JAVs like they're doing regular shopping.

>>279683063
yes we're all the good ones :)

>>279683141
I do. Longest I've stayed is three months and I've only been three times.

>>279683011
>Nakano is still alright, but it's like half empty now, plus they shut down Kinshobo.

Akiba - Looking at giant anime posters/commercials everywhere.
Ikebukuro - Walking through the bajillion (but always fun) cosplay events and Viet/Chinese food
Nakano - Actually browsing 原画 in a small shop off to the side or browsing ancient shoujo manga in shops for that

But yeah, if you're actually out to buy things, it's usually to just stick to the outskirts. Far enough that tourist prices don't affect it, close enough that it's not "there's nothing here"-tier inaka shop.

t.moto Kanagawamin

On a related note, Kyoto Animation has closed most of its retail stores in Kyoto itself. Every 'KyoAni Shop' (in JR Kyoto station and at their HQ in Uji) is permanently shut down. The only KyoAni merchandise I could find was in partnered record stores and the Nidec Kyoto Tower which was depressingly quiet.

>>279683195
That’s sad :(

>>279680438
I'm getting itched to become a vtoober and gacha simp because anime is becoming more pozzed day by day. The anti proprietary mindset that /g/ brainwashed in to me might be the only reason I've not fell for gacha.

>>279683185
>Akiba - Looking at giant anime posters/commercials everywhere.
It feels more like gacha and vtuber posters/commercials everywhere. This extends to comiket, too. I wonder if this is how bitter old timers felt when bishoujo games became the new craze

>>279683063
My soul is Japanese. I was unwillingly reincarnated in Europe after being run over by truck-kun back in the 90's.

>>279683234
I'm not kidding, I think you should kill yourself.

>>279683224
kek

>>279683195
I can't imagine shelling out my hard earned cash to buy merchandise. It just couldn't be me.
I mean they got my money when I paid for the bluray. What more do they want from me? No I don't your itabag badges and a fucking character good laptop sticker and character good shower curtain. Just fuck off.

>>279683224
I see tourists in Japan who are clearly appreciative and there for a reason, in the right place in the right context, and I don't mind. I see people in these threads who clearly have a mindset that would be appreciated for a tourist, too.
On the opposite end, and only in these threads, do I see people who have resigned themselves to a fundamentally less rich understanding of the place, but adopting an assumed mentality of the people who live there - that any foreigner can only be bad, and that any foreigner pointing out the bad ones has to be some kind of retard. It's pathetic, but at least it's not someone I or anyone else needs to deal with outside of here.

This kinda hurts to be honest
Spending years hearing about a place through anime and other people but not being able to visit
Only for you to see it change before you even make it there.

>>279683336
A character good shower curtain or ita bag or mug can do you more good than a BD does. They all have functional uses outside of watching the show you already saw

>>279683339
Have you heard about Paris syndrome?

>>279683376
Notably not called Tokyo Syndrome. Cope.

>>279683339
I don't really wanna visit Japan even after spending over a decade watching anime.

>>279683234
Both of those are 100 times worse than anime and while there are a lot of zoomers into anime there are even more zoomers into vtubers.

>>279683338
>that any foreigner can only be bad, and that any foreigner pointing out the bad ones has to be some kind of retard.
Nobody ITT so much as hinted at this. You are conjuring things out of thin air.

>>279683336
It's a way to support your favourite creators further and it's not like it's mandatory

>>279683374
>>279683427
If they want my money so bad they can develop a gacha and drain me through pulls and microtransactions there rather than have me buy a sticker that I can't eat or play with

I will visit Japan with my imouto and I will treat everyone kindly.

>>279683456
I'd rather buy a sticker than play a stupid gacha.

>>279683456
>or play with
Have some imagination. I used to make scenarios for my favorite anime using rocks back when I was a kid.

>>279683456
>a half-assed digital representation of a character that only exists on my telephone in some shitty game is more valuable than a tangible item I can decorate and improve my real world with
You are literally subhuman

>>279679817 (OP)
honestly when i went it was just like
a bunch of otaku media and consumer goods

same as it ever was

>>279683513
bro come on this is the doom thread..

>>279683513
Akiba is alive!!!

>>279683526
we're doomposting to shoo away all the potential weeb tourists

>>279683526
oh shit i'm sorry

>>279683456
It's called a sticker, you stick it on your laptop, desk, bag, car,... to decorate it with a motif you like.
It's no different from going to a store and buying a decorative vase or something.
Is merch that hard of a concept to understand?

>>279683472
>>279683490
I can't play with a sticker. I'm not 5. I'm a grown man. I don't want or need stickers to put all over the place, I don't need crayons and coloring books.
>>279683474
That's sad, you sound like a poor person or something.
You cannot name one company that develops character branded rocks, why? Because rocks would actually be useful somehow and you can use them in a fight or sharpen knives with them. There is a unspoken rule to make character goods as useless as possible. You can't even bend the arms and legs on most figures that the buyfag guys sperg over. It'a a jewish trick.

>>279683526
The new doom doesn't look that interesting to me.

I invented something called the kebab test
If you see a gyro/kebab shop or two in the neighborhood, you're somewhere that's meant for foreigners. If not, you'll probably find some interesting stuff.
Nothing against kebabs, and not to say that places with them don't have anything fun or interesting. Just something I've observed over the years.

>>279683591
kebabs are everywhere, even in my neighborhood. everyone loves kebab.

>>279683571
Is this the kind of schizo that inhabits vg and vt? Fucked up

>>279683619
There were none in my city.
Though then again, there was a kebab shop right next to that great Hi no Ya curry shop in Akiba.

>>279682845
I'm waiting for a foreigner to shoot up Comiket because the anime characters in doujins are underaged.

>>279683257
Make me nigger

>>279683541
The weeb tourists are fine. Anyone here reading this thread would be a good tourist because they wouldn't get mad about the "weird" stuff being sold there and they would likely spend money on some form of subculture content. The problem is that Akihabara is on every basic bitch tourist destination list and you will see absolute fucking normalfags wandering around there gawking at everything.

>>279680050
>he grew up in the US

>>279684054
>he grew up in Switzerland

>>279680863
at least it's not BLACKBERRIES

>>279679833
>>279679826

>>279679817 (OP)
Good.

>>279683336
Blu-rays count as merchandise, you're good

>>279684468
>old man yells at clouds

>>279683336
>Buying the blu-ray = Buying merch at this point
Everyone torrents or streams the shows in digital platforms.
It's rare to find mofos that pay for the blu-ray outside Japan.

Some journalist tried to plan a family-friendly anime-themed trip to Tokyo and brought her teenage son to a BL cafe.
https://cnalifestyle.channelnewsasia.com/travel/japan-tokyo-anime-trip-kids-adults-465961

Reading that just made me angry. I mean how clueless can you get?

>>279683460
You should take your imouto to a love hotel when she needs to rest her legs.

>>279685547
Because it's fucking ragebait you dumbass
It's staged
You are like barely sentient my man

I hope you are reincarnated as a tripfag on 2chan when you die.

>>279682285
Isn't that the plot for Drama Queen?

>>279679817 (OP)
Feel sad about it

I went in 2019 before Covid and the Gundam cafe closed down.

>>279683513
I've been every years since 2010 and it's really not changed much more than everything else in Tokyo has. Assuming most posters in this thread are faggot retards that have never been to Japan.
Obviously it was different before the massacre but that was like 20 years ago, move on niggers.