Thread 279690621

>/a/ says this manga is bad
>Read it
>It's actually great
Every time

>>279690621 (OP)
/a/ has a hate boner for the author.

>>279690621 (OP)
>/a/ says this manga is bad
No we don't. The festival arc dragged on though.

>>279690621 (OP)
The anime is going to be a disaster

>>279690677
The ending with punished Coco was great tho

>>279690621 (OP)
It's beautifully drawn, has a good hook and interesting lore.
You know the problem with it? After a few chapters the author just started to drag the plot. There was a sense of rush that got shafted in order to tell stories unrelated to the main character. I want to see a girl rush to save her mother after screwing with powers she shouldn't yield, learning about hidden conspiracies, not trying to impress some old dude or dealing with depressed child who lost his limbs.
It just was just a drag for me, I couldn't do it.

>>279690732
No, the irrelevant /a/ threads and the twitter freaks' posts are going to be a disaster.
The anime will be OK at the very least

>>279690676
qrd

>>279690621 (OP)
Then how about (You) read it somewhere else unwashed nigger?

>>279691102
The manga has brown people so a few retards have been spazzing out about the author.

>>279691102
/pol/ nonsense

>>279691157
>go somewhere else to talk about manga
Do poltards really?

>>279691102
they mangaka is very left wing and that bleed into her work. the art is very nice, the characters good but the plot is glacially slow.
worth reading but an 8/10 when with a few tweaks it could be a lot better i.e focus on magic and the brim hats(villains) not gay multicult globohomo talking points

>>279690621 (OP)
I dropped it years ago and by then the festival arc was already dragging. Truly a modern day namek.

>>279691341
I've read 11 volumes and don't remember anything particularly woke.

>>279691472
you missed the gay couple where one loses his memories and the random coloured spread about?

>>279691472
He means the brown characters, the gay background characters and the Peeping Tom character.
>>279691596
Is very easy to miss as they're barely relevant

>>279691637
>as they're barely relevant
they're the focus of at least one chapter

>>279691712
Yes, but the focus is not about they being gay, but about the hypocrisy of the magic police erasing memories,

>>279690621 (OP)
It's aimed towards your kind, filthy westoids.

>>279690621 (OP)
its great. and POPULAR since the jump. sell way more than any non-anime fuji-cult manga that a/ always love sucking.

>>279690621 (OP)
/a/ has a history of being wrong about literally everything

>>279690621 (OP)
>>279690676
It's nu/a/ and their schizo /pol/tourist agenda.

>>279691712
>the focus of at least one chapter
oh, no, not 40+ pages of a 2800 page long ongoing manga.

>>279691777
lol what?? its very popular in JAPAN. sell 100k-150k first few volumes.
the fuck you moron talking about??

>>279691757
you think making them gay wasn't intentional to also soap box about how gays are oppressed?

I never read anything where the male characters look like twinks.

>>279691930
They don't look oppressed at all.

>>279691891
It's literally gay pozzed garbage.
We don't care here if women are buying it in Japan too.

>>279691930
No. Stop obsessing about gay people.

>>279691930
Can you even express why would that be a bad thing?
Is this your first time reading?
Read more Japanese fiction, retard.
>>279691930
>We
Shut the fuck up.

>>279691891
>its very popular in JAPAN
Looks like everybody gave up on it already

>>279692107
Is this real? Based if so.
Manga like this and Vinland saga should always fail.

I hate /pol/roaches so fucking much
why can't they just go back?

>>279692229
This isn't about /pol/, the kind of stuff this mangaka has written simply goes against the spirit of Japan itself.

I don't care enough to have screeshots but what made this manga disliked in /a/ was stuff like
>mangaka adding trigger warnings on their cover (western behaviour)
>mangaka using this manga as a tool to shill their own pozz'd philosophies (Vinland like behavior, another hated manga)
And most importantly
>mangaka going ham on a comedic "peeper" hentai trope, taking it seriously and having on of the fag characters punish him.

It's just ass.

>>279692307
kill yourself

>>279692307
Actual retard

>>279692229
So Kahome can have the mental illness flag in her Twitter handle and parrot all the same opinions the terminally online lefties can, but the opposite terminally online /pol/fags can't? This isn't a one way street, either everyone stops being insane or everyone is allowed to without reservations.

>>279692107
Damn, why aren't her rainbow flag buddies supporting the manga?

>>279692422
Post your manga. I bet you can do some kickstarter and steal some money with it regardless of how bad it is like every right winger lol

>>279692422
Is /a/ twitter you fucking faggot?
Kill yourself

>>279692470
>over 5.5 million copies in circulation by July 2024
>https://mantan-web.jp/article/20240705dog00m200003000c.html
And wait for the anime bump

>>279692483
I love how the bar for being considered a "right winger" has just dropped and dropped and dropped until the point where not liking extremely recent left wing innovations is super ultra serious /pol/turd chud grifter stuff where you have a flag and rant about issues when you're really just a normal person going "WTF this seems kinda gay". Being right wing is literally just what you get called when you think these sudden social innovations and sudden and absurd. That's it. Some really serious lefty will turn up and start going on about how every right winger does X because they spend too much time following the same grifters they constantly complain about. It's like an oroboros.

It was good early on, including the art, but it seemed to derail itself with an arc that was way too long. It not having a reliable translation probably helped with wanting to see what was going to happen next when we were over a dozen chapters behind. I'm interested if it will get back on track but it's not that high up in terms of manga I'm reading for me any more.

>>279691974
You're missing the tons of great shoujo manga.

>>279692655
Yes, you moron, right is the side you take when you want to either keep the status quo or regress to a former status quo. The fuck do you think it means?

>>279692337
>>279692347
Cry all you want.
The authour is a westaboo of the worst kind and that's why the manga is failing.

>read newest chapter
>Tartah is now a brimhat
Holy coustas tartah yaoi

>>279690621 (OP)
read more than two volumes

>>279691930
Even if it was it's highly schizo to focus in on it when the more important plot is just about the setting-relevant magic police being insane. The author being a leftoid and the work itself being outwardly rather leftist doesn't really matter if the core themes and presentation aren't pushing the gay agenda in your face. It's a nothingburger. There's a difference between Witch Hat and Concord, WHA isn't pushing ugly fags in your face, and even the fags aren't really a central story point. It's just about cute girls doing magic (and getting traumatized). A few gay characters that aren't butt ugly can be overlooked

the author is pozzed and the manga is boring

>>279692739
>and that's why the manga is failing.
Proof that you haven't read shit outside of THAT chapter, which you probably have saved. It has bigger issues that have nothing to do with [current thing to get mad at].

>>279692107
>>279692202
>>279692470
I think the real issue is we've been in festival namek for actually three years with nothing to show for it and some hiatus's. IIRC the same thing happened to Noragami when they entered the two year hiatus and Father-namek

Is witch hat kitchen being translated? Last I checked it was like eight random chapters.

>>279692689
>you moron
Notice how seriously you take this. You're obviously an activist who is having a big impact on the state of the world.
>keep the status quo
On what? Literally everything? We're not talking about transitioning from a monarchy to a republic here, or even something like changing the tax rate. If I just sit around with certain expectations about basic social reality in my head, and I never do activism and never propose any policies, or have a real complicated serious business "I'm changing the world" ideology, and then that social reality changes, have I magically been converted into a /pol/tard chud grifter the moment I look at that changed social reality represented in a piece of media and express displeasure? Do you get to magically convert me into a political activist through your own activism?

>>279693136
Why do you think you're not a right winger?

can you fags just drink bleach instead of having the exact same pissing match every single thread

I like the big scar on Coco's face. I hope that stays for the foreseeable future.

>>279693272
She's still top cute.

I don't think any amount of disfigurement can stop her cuteness.

>Author is a typical twitter woke faggot
Yeah, I'm not reading this shit story

Remember that the main plot of this series is Coco needing to pass the witch exams to get access to the witch library to try and find a spell that can save her mom. But almost half of the manga at this point was this festival arc that was seemingly set up as a side plot to cool down after the last exam.

>>279692925
Yes but it's on dumblr and the translator has a rule to not republish it even though she doesn't own the content

Nobody said it was bad. However, there are some valid complaints:
- pacing is too slow;
- author is under Western liberal influence (she worked for Marvel or something i can't remember) and it shows a bit but nothing too egregious;

>>279693461
Coustas brimhat was exciting though, the manga got more serious

>Author basically giving a peeping tom the death penalty while having the faggot character get on their soapbox and preach at the reader
It's just like I'm back at /co/

>>279693272
Every morning she wakes up with fresh hatred!

>>279693464
That's unfortunate. Is anyone ignoring them and rehosting it anywhere?

>>279690621 (OP)
The artstyle is great, my main problem is how the "good witches" are huge assholes all around while the brimhats don't seen unreasonable on their main goal of spreading magic all around, like, at this point I'm rooting for the brimhats to win over the normal hats trying to control everything and that isn't a good thing if you ask me.

>>279693461
>that was seemingly set up as a side plot to cool down after the last exam.
That wasn't my impression. It always seemed like it was gonna be a huge event since it would be the meeting of all major factions and people from all over the world would attend. It was clearly being set up to be a major event.

>>279692895
OK now that's genuinely cringe. However, it still seems she's just aping Western liberals at this point and may be redeemable. It's a real pity to see genuine talent wasted by politics.

>>279693515
Actually it was the rape victim cop lady who soapboxed, not the homos. She recently revived the pervert, but she just had to have him be rescued and then punched by the black sage. She's so unserious about it it's kind of funny. Especially since the pervert guy is strawmanned into mentioning his sexy stash after being revived and in danger.

>>279692925
>>279693550
I think the official version has a couple volumes out now

>>279693515
>character is shown to be extremist to foreshadow when it tries to kill Coco
>anon loses his shift over it for some invented reason

>>279693617
I think that's the point though. The cops especially are flawed, like just look at how the twins treated the kids like criminals and tossing aside one of their members for having memory loss. You are supposed to sympathise with and despise both sides

>>279693617
>the the brimhats don't seen unreasonable
Didn't read the last chapter I see

>>279693699
Jesus, this legit feels like those tranny twitter woke comics with how much of strawmaning the author is going for.
She even had the black dude punch him to make it even more obvious.

Why is Tartah becoming a brimhat again?

Some very mad troons ITT

>>279692837
Is that actually inserted by the mangaka? I hoped never to see Japan behaving like this.

>>279691712
>one chapter
yea not really making your case well here

>>279692837
Why is this a bad thing? You don't wanna read it, you know what you're getting into thanks to the warning.

>>279693753
>Extremist
>Holds the same values and acts the same as all the righteous "good guys"
Yeah, OK, bro

>>279693699
I thought the witch cops apprehending him was supposed to make us appalled since he was just harmless. The author's comparison with an actual ugly bastard rapist is insane

>>279693815
Doesn't trust the wizard state, but he doesn't really trust brimhats either, he just sees them as his best chance to know the truth

>>279693845
>manga has trigger warning
>anons get triggered by it anyway

>>279692837
The faggot needs to go before the corruption is spread among other manga

>>279693858
How do they hold the same values when one it's willing to kill the main character because they don't agree with her?

>dude makes a funny device that makes him see through clothes
>THIS IS JUST LIKE WHEN MY FRIEND WAS RAPED
???

>>279693858
Mostly fiery peaceful witches

>>279693767
Anyone who still thinks the brimhats are secretly the good guys is just wishing in spite of the story at this point. You'd think them trying to kill coco multiple times would make that clear but I not actually reading the manga seems like a recurring theme here

>>279693874
What truth though. What's his motivation here.. this arc went on so long that I feel I don't understand his character anymore

>>279693922
people usually don't like when you see them naked without consent

>>279693911
Ask woke twiter which is where the author hangs out, I'm also curious

>>279693962
I won't use twitter just because you're media illiterate,

>>279693767
I think you're supposed to sympathize with the kids who are gonna show the dumb adults that both sides are bad

wich hat wud u witch

>>279693699
This is what the mangaka thinks of Japanese culture btw.

>>279693922
Why do i get the feeling the author is one of those faggots who legit say all straight sex is rape and transphobic or something equally retarded

>>279693947
They're obviously portrayed as bad, but the "good guys" are hardly portrayed as good either. It isn't as black and white as people who hate this manga try to claim. I suppose it's possible that the mangaka is just so wildly out of touch that the way the good guys act isn't supposed to be controversial but I cannot believe that until the manga actually ends in a way that makes that completely clear. Because to me the "good guys" are portrayed as pretty scummy too, even if they're not as evil as the brimhats are portrayed as.

>>279694024
because you're increasingly desperate to ruin threads about the series

>>279694015
Yeah, having the Basketball American "educate" him was very clear.

>>279690621 (OP)
It's woke shit, but retards have bad taste so they would ignore and eat the slop like good doggies.

>>279694059
I don't think he's anything American

>>279694048
Quifrey and Coco being one slip up away from being exposed and brain-wiped makes it seem extremely unlikely the pointed hat gestapo are supposed to be anything resembling good guys

>>279694065
Eat the goyslop, don't ask questions, just consume and wait for more goyslop.

>>279691873
People throw around /pol/ "schizo" about this manga. I think you can throw around the word "tourist" if you want and maybe that's true. But "schizo", that implies the bullshit in this manga is just in people's head.
Nuh uh. The bullshit is there. You don't need eisegesis from living on the author's twitter. It's all fucking bluntly in the manga itself.
Anyone who's read the manga knows. It's not just the few succinct punching bag chapters that get reposted around. It's so obviously at the core of the manga, you don't win friends or influence people with such completely counter factual posts like this. You just look like someone, ironically, with a /pol/ adjacent agenda yourself.

>>279692895
let me guess...
https://desuarchive.org/a/search/image/vegnY41Sp4iaxVvnAdLF6Q/
yep, I was right

>>279693922
I mean, it's retarded and out of place like most things in this crappy manga but to be fair, how would you feel if someone saw through the clothes of your mom, your sister or your gf?

>>279693845
Because it's a specific mentality that sissy woke safe spacefags have in which they all think they should, and have the right to be (at the expense of the rights of others), shielded from things they don't like. Because they are also big time statists, some of them holding political/lobbying power, or just mass voting power, this leads to things like anti-freedom of speech, anti-freedom of expression and censorship laws in the worst cases and 'canceling' in places controlled by leftists.

>>279693990
>media illiterate
Anyone who unironically uses this term needs to go back

>>279694107
>It's not just the few succinct punching bag chapters that get reposted around.
It quite literally is the same two chapters that have been beaten to death for years, either exaggerating or outright lying about the contents to the absolute bewilderment of anyone who's actually read it.

>>279694111
welcome newfag

>>279692895
Kek that's pretty cringe

>>279694240
who thee be quoteth?

>>279692837
Basically if a Tumblr mangaka

Sex with Agathe.

>>279692895
Cringe, she forgot her palestine flag

>>279694277
>Tumblr mangaka
How is that Dungeon Meshi was obviously inspired by that type of art style and even characters, and yet its pretty good, meanwhile this one is straight up boring garbage?
Both authors clearly are part of the same circles, yet one of them is an insufureable woke faggot, what happened?

>>279694001
>>279694287
I want to mindbreak her into joining the magic police

recs similar to this? i quite liked it

>>279694413
The dungeon meshi one just copied the pozzed aesthetics, not the politics.

>>279694448
Magus of the Library

saying pozzed in 2025 is so embarrassing

>>279694454
which tumblr politics did Witch Hat Atelier copy?

being a retard who reads pozzed shit in 2025 is so embarrassing

It's just another series written by a woman, which means everyone acts retarded and conflicts are completely avoidable. Boring.

>>279694485
always was

>>279694448
The new Velma series for hbo max
She-Ra
My Little Ponny

>>279694558
>/pol/fag is from /co/
color me surprised

>>279694543
Just like these threads
curious

>>279694592
He suggested similar series that would suit an idiot like you

I always find it funny when fags try to put this shit in the same tier as Frieren and DM when it comes to new fantasy manga that is not just Isekai slop.

>>279694543
There are good series written by women. Not this one though. But retards and closeted fags would coomsume because they don't know better.

>>279694647
Who? Sure no one is that retarded

>>279694179
I can only project my own experience reading and dropping the manga.
I can't assume what your bias is because that's me schizing out taking shots in the dark. I can just think to myself the magna is so self evidently one way, and apologetics for it another way, that opinions like yours actually can't come from the manga itself.

>>279694448
Harry Potter

>>279694697
you can pretend to read manga but you can't pretend to speak english

>>279694705
JK Rowling is based now at least

>>279694647
putting isekai-lite like freiren next to actually creative fantasy settings is just insulting

Oh yeah isn't the anime supposed to be out next month?

>>279694907
I'm not really looking to these threads getting more popular. Maybe an influx of genuine interest will drown out the obsessed spammers but I doubt it.

>>279694907
No one cares about that shitshow

>>279694907
There's no release date yet, other than it comes out this year.

>>279691102
woke slop

It makes me happy to enter a thread of a shitty series I don't like and see that it's totally poisoned and unusable. Keep the good job, guys.

>>279695097
the schizo seems to have been banned so I'm afraid you'll only get real discussion now.

>>279695097
I don't think OP was looking for a discussion anyways and this series is stuck in Namek so there's nothing to discuss.

>>279694941
Cute girl + initial volumes being fine means the anime threads will be okay, especially on new ep release day.

>>279694543
If /a/'s opinions are anything to go by that describes most anime and manga, whether written by men or women. I regularly read shoujo manga though so I know that being written by a woman isn't this manga's problem.

>>279695142
You're here so the janitors haven't done their job yet.

>>279694617
>he
How mad /pol/troon?

>>279690621 (OP)
Congratulations. Now it's time to start with your HHT treatment.

>>279695170
Last chapter was a big bomb, I'm not sure Coco trust anyone but her friends anymore and given Tartah's betrayal not even that.

>>279692925
There are five volumes out in my country. Do not read if you haven't eaten in a while, it'll make you hungry.

>>279695142
Kek
What an imbecile

>>279692925
The art looks so fucking gay

>>279693955
He just found out the magical tree that's been in his shop forever is made of people and the wizards never told him.

>>279695385
We can go gayer.

>>279695498
No wonder fags and rainbow women like this shit lmao

>>279695385
>>279695498
There is legit some fujo pandering in Kitchen, it doesn't take much to see Olruggio is supposed to be the girls' dad and Qifrey their mom.

>>279693233
Not that anon but I'd say because I generally agree with progressive ideals and ideas however not to the extremes it's being pushed. Half of the groups within LGBTQ+ are genuinely mentally ill. Immigration and integration needs serious revamping. For god's sake multiple countries have weaponized refugees so states obviously know the danger mass migration has socially and economically. There's also a sense of entitlement and lots of ignorance among progressives. Not to mention their obnoxious moralfagging and grandstanding. It's a loud minority however what does it matter when those problematic people dictate the direction of the discourse.

All of these things can also be said about the right however I don't respect them so I don't hold them to any standard.

>>279695581
it's a different writer so the tonal difference is understandable. Fags and fujos lusting over Quifrey is also understandable.

>>279695593
NTA
I think more or less the same about a good part of the right wingers but I don't respect stupid lefties like you so I don't hold you to any standards.

>>279695661
Never said I don't appreciate it.

The Brimhats and the Duncecaps are both shit. Ourwitch should smash them all

>>279695581
It really looks incredibly flaggy, I don't know how anyone who doesn't put stuff in their butts could read it.

>>279691974
Yeah, Jojo part 2 was the best anyway.

>>279695722
BL-scholars don't need to explain themselves to plebs like you.

>>279695696
Coco managed to convince the three sages to bend the rules for her and one of them had to fight against the hard-ass knight as a result so I feel like she'll manage to at least get the Pointed Hats to hear her out when the time comes.

>>279695593
> I generally agree with progressive ideals and ideas
But you are careful to not mention any you like

>>279695756
You clearly fit the kind of people I was talking about so I can already read you like a book, or a mediocre manga.

>>279695722
Qifrey X Orugio: cute thus based
Riche X Eunie: cute thus based
Coco X Agathe: cute thus based

Simple as.

I am a firm brim hat supporter.
Mainly because their hats look better.

>>279695836
You can read the manga? That's great and I hope you like it.

>>279695593
>pozzed manga reader is an idiotic leftist
Wow
Next you're going to tell me you're a fag and a pedo and I'll feign surprise

>>279695951
weird projection but ok

>>279695858
pretty much the only good thing about them, I wish they weren't cartoon villains because I wanted coco to become one for the fashion alone

>>279693994
Yeah, I think so too, through the eyes of children we can see how fucked up both sides are.

>>279692107
Can't blame them

>>279690621 (OP)
The lack of porn is a clear indication than a series is shit.

>>279696287
ok pedo

>>279691102
Most of /a/ turned on the manga when the author dedicated an entire chapter to the metoo movement, also the current arc dragged on too long.

>>279696195
I look forward to the day where every thread turns into a Rent A Girlfriend thread.

>>279696344
a chapter out of 200, it's LITERALLY white genocide

>>279696344
>the author dedicated an entire chapter to the metoo movement
That's pretty sad

>>279696344
I wouldn't call one loud retard that didn't even read the manga "most of /a/"

>>279696195
>I HAVE MONEY!
>I'M A SIMP!
>WHY COULDN'T I DO ANYTHING TO SCORE?

>>279690621 (OP)
this is probably the next frieren

>>279696344
Case on point, this thread is just 2-3 retards defending their cringe homofest

>>279696419
It's too cutesy on the surface to catch normals. Not being generic dnd flavored fantasy probably won't help either.

>>279696472
Most of /a/ is bussy talking about better manga

>>279696472
Agreed. /pol/ really has fallen.

>>279696514
>It's too cutesy on the surface to catch normals
the fuck does that even mean
every anime is normal now, anime is normal hobby
so yes this will catch normals and a tons

>>279696419
Nah, frieren is at least decent
It would be popular around fujos and trannies in twitter but that's pretty much it.

>>279696419
Only if the anime doesn't suck and I'm not too hopeful about the animation studio.

>>279696195
Why did she do it?

>>279696419
I really doubt the anime can match the manga's art.

>>279696553
there's no young male lead for the audience to project onto, its straight shoujo and normals won't like it, at least not to the degree as shit like freiren

>>279696583
>Only if the anime doesn't suck
That's a pretty daunting task considering the source material

>>279696419
The best thing about this manga is the art, and the way it does things like panelling. I can't see the anime catching on unless they do something out of the ordinary with the adaptation

>>279696526
>no u
Low IQ response expected from someone who reads low IQ manga like WHA

>>279696638
Qifrey

>>279696583
>>279696636
>>279696666
>>279696638
This looks good though https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hMmBSCQs1H4

>>279696729
qifrey is a mentor/father figure, not a protagonist or companion like the other girls are to coco

>>279690621 (OP)
Never listen to what gets repeated on /a/ endlessly. It's often wrong and made up by mentally ill posters trying to push their agenda and tastes.

How woke does it actually get besides the peeping tom shit?
I know the author is a gigantic faggot on Twitter, but what about the actual manga?
I heard its not so bad, however a current boring arc has been going on for years basically with the plot being on limbo.

>>279690621 (OP)
Nice try retard but I'm not touching this wokeslop.

>>279696813
But is like self inserting as Gojo

>>279690621 (OP)

>Anime adaptation soon

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hMmBSCQs1H4

>>279696863
If you really care I would advice to go and read it yourself instead of playing a game of telephone here. If it doesn't look like something you would like, just move on.

>>279696863
>I heard its not so bad, however a current boring arc has been going on for years basically with the plot being on limbo.
It ended as of the latest chapter and it's by far the arc where the plot progresses the most, it just took forever to get through because it had a billion characters.

Frieren and Meshi are both success.
I know you fags hate wokeshit and troonshit and so do I, but get real, this will 100% be the next big thing. At least the manga isn't that woke compared to retarded videogames made by americans.

>>279696863
The typical racial/gay shit and political strawman. I can't tell you if that's too much or not for you. If you think it's not for you just read something else. The manga is nothing special and most of the praise comes from the art.

>>279693233
Because disliking a highly constructed ideology with various tenets about what must be accepted on a microscopic social level, is only an ideology itself by technicality. I literally do not give a shit about economic policy, laws, foreign policy blah blah blah, which people who call themselves right wingers, leftists, centrists etc very obviously do. I don't have an arrogant highly constructed ideology. I'm a peasant like you are. Most of my objections to "woke" stuff are purely aesthetic. I'm not interested in some political program to try and stop it. I just won't like media that depends on you believing in this highly constructed form of left wing ideology.

>>279692107
Why would 40000 people buy volumes 2-5 but not volume 1?

>>279697046
>I literally do not give a shit about economic policy
You should.

>>279694240
The loss of the IP counter was one of the biggest wins for schizos across all of 4chan, which is a massive loss for everyone else. It is incredibly evident after reading this thread, it's just so fucking retarded. This manga sucks because the pacing is abysmal, the story is going no where after years and if you do want to discuss anything about it you'll have to suffer through schizos derailing every conversation into twitter this, /pol/ that. The author is a hack, regardless of her fucking politics.

>>279694147
A mild annoyance at most

>>279695797
I support equality but don't like "American diversity". On another note people obviously shouldn't be discriminated against for their skin colour. Their culture is another matter entirely. Sexism like in many middle eastern cultures should absolutely not be tolerated. Unfortunately many people excuse it under various reasons such as religious freedom and cultural relativism. It's hilarious when women defend people who see them as lesser beings.

Freedom of religion and sexuality is something I support as well as long as it doesn't harm society. An issue I have is for example that Americans glorify degeneracy under the guise of celebrating the acceptance of LGBTQ+ people. Labeling anyone who doesn't support transsexuality as bigot or worse is just silly.
Many American feminists are mentally ill skanks who have nothing better to do with their lives outside of demanding representation and going after sexism in fictional works. They're obnoxious, useless bitches like the women of the white feather movement. That said feminism led by reasonable & intelligent leaders is really important in America because evangelists are trying to turn it into a middle eastern shithole.

I could go on but you get the idea right?

>>279697091
IP count was never anything but a placebo. Any amateur spammer can just tap airplane mode on their phone and get as many new IPs as they want.

>>279697106
>Sexism like in many middle eastern cultures should absolutely not be tolerated
Cringe chud

>>279692837
This is a good example of what I mean. The trend of doing trigger warnings/content warnings in the West has just about gone away already. Objecting to it gets you called /pol/ but it's an extremely basic thing that gives the story a bad taste. It's not some super advanced ideological thing where you must be a fascist to oppose it. I bet there are commies who think this is cringe. It's aesthetically bad to do this, but if you criticize the wrong aesthetic suddenly you must also believe in X, Y, Z, etc.
>>279697083
Nah. People who know better then me about it should.

>>279697106
>feminist
>intelligent
Oxymoron. Africa and the middle east have men with more balls than americans and europeans so I hope they replace them.

>>279697128
True, but at least the IP counter gave you a good idea of what posts were schizos if they didn't bother with refreshing their IP.

>>279695661
Qifrey reminds me of Fay D. Fluorite especially with the recent chapters. I wonder if the author read Tsubasa

>>279697106
Based evangelist stopping whores like your mom from killing children

>>279691102
She turned a medieval Italian poet into a faggot

>>279697546
poetry is for fags anyway

>>279697546
>italian
>poet
Probably a fag already, the hack author just exposed him

>>279696287
no manga gets good porn before it gets animated

coco lewds soon trust the plan

>>279690621 (OP)
The art is fucking insane but the plot feels a bit meh to me tbqh

>>279694472
Unreadable, it's so painfully generic I could barely get through the first two volumes. Shame because the art was nice

Is this the series where some dude got brained raped and turned retarded because he was spying on cute chicks?
That shit was so over the top and I'm suprised they played it straight.

>>279697762
why are you asking if you already know what happened and how they played it

>>279697762
Tbh that's completely in line with how insane magical gestapo is shown to be in the story, Shirahama loves her virtue signaling but it didn't breally strike me as one of that moments

>>279693845
Then why even write the chapter in such a way that you know that some of your fans don't want to read it? Shit makes no sense unless it's being made to piss off.

>>279697839
Because it won't do anything for 99.9% of people reading it but if you were raped or molested and didn't want to relive the trauma then it's put in as a courtesy. Why does it even bother you, it's like 18+ they put on the covers but specifically for that one chapter. Maybe it's a bit much but it's completely innocuous

>>279692594
>5.5
6.5 as of April so 1 more million in 9 months. It sells very well.

>>279697762
Everyone gets mind raped for every crime. That's a pretty big plot point. The cops are not the good guys.

>>279698022
>if you were raped or molested
Sounds like a personal problem. Get over it.

>>279698175
but you can't even get over words on a page

What does pozzed even mean anymore?

>>279698232
I'm not the same anon, retard.

>>279698175
So should be getting up the stairs for paralyzed yet we still bother to put platforms and elevators for them. Makes you think, huh?

>>279698263
It means "thing I don't like"
like AIDS for example

How does /a/ do it? Even with all its’ flaws, it still manages to maintain a level of quality far above the other media boards.

>>279698263
Moralfagging from the left

I want to see him go apeshit.

>>279690621 (OP)
I put this in the deep freezer after the festival arc got real fucking boring. I'm not touching this until it's finished. I kinda enjoyed it but there's so much better stuff to read that doesn't drag on like this.
Maybe I'll bother making a thread about my thoughts when it's finished

>>279698405
The sad part is this is still true even in the context of this shitty thread

>>279698318
Bad example. You can't get over not having functional legs and climb the stairs like a normal person. A lot of people who get offended by rape in fiction haven't been raped either.

>>279698405
Maybe it's because you have to put some (not a lot but some) effort into reading manga, you can't just get your opinion about a hot topic from opinion peddlers on youtube and come here to parrot it until another big thing happens, you have to engage with your hobby at some level
Also weebs are autistic as fuck so not a lot of people can handle hanging with you fags.

>>279696972
Funny because the only good gay couple ever made comes from videogames

>>279697128
Some of them like ACK are using proxy plugins on their browser to ban evade.

>>279696972
frieren isn't woke, just retarded

>>279698405
(You)

>>279690621 (OP)
Kill yourself.

>279698434
go catch up now then

>>279690621 (OP)
>Good
This is just shadow house but awful. Coco should have been a brimbro
No it was never okay for her to be a conenigger

>>279698904
I recall a big shitstorm here about the characters making fun of the guy for his penis size or something like that?

>>279701740
>>This is just shadow house but awful
They have nothing in common. I'd rather say Shadows House is The Promised Neverland if it never went to shit.

>>279691102
The mangaka is woke. Not in the /pol/ definition of "there are brown people", but an actual Twitter activist spamming trans rights and shit like that. It makes reading her work without projecting her politics on it practically impossible.

>>279693922
The irony is that male witch's X-ray magic could have saved many lives in the future, if he got the chance to develop it further to see a person's bones and organs without needing surgery to open their body up.

>>279692307
LMFAOOOO weaboo crying because not all japanese people are conservative rightoids like he imagined them to be

>>279692229
You will never be a woman

>>279702895
We could go further and use this magic to detect brimhats by revealing forbidden tattoos. Or maybe it could detective conceiled items. Big irony that the cops trashed it.

The second I saw that the "fans" of this manga use words like "/pol/tard" and "rightoids" and casually shit on Japan I knew that this was somehow tainted. Then I read the more recent chapters, checked the mangaka background and my suspicion was proven correct. Good artwork, nice paneling, boring writing and characters that only got worse once the author couldn't hold back from inserting her unironic Tumblr-tier politics.

Poor guy

>>279703752
Leftist Japanese used to be Marxists and environmentalists. This trigger warning shit is much lamer.

>>279702895
Adjusting it also made it a lazer

>>279704351
Magic Gestapo are supposed to be the bad guys, I don't know how you guys misinterpreted this.

>>279703752
Try to sound less butthurt, tranny

>>279692229
You lost the elections, Timmy. It's time to stop crying already.

>>279704553
Is this particular instance shown as an injustice and a bad thing? Because it didn't feel that way to me, more like the author is trying to make you sympathize with the magic police because they sometimes "put the right ones away". It's despicable on multiple levels.

>>279704553
I dunno about that one chief, they're framed pretty heroically here.

>>279704599
>>279704018
>if you aren't a /pol/tard that means you're a tranny leftard ECKSDEEE
kill yourself

>>279704351
I mean, looking at people naked without consent with xray glasses is sexual assault. I don't think anything said there is controversial IRL.

>>279704692
>mangaka is incredibly vocal and explicit in her investment into contemporary politics
>practically loudly announces that she will let this influence her work
>people don't like it
>"y-you're /pol/!!"

>>279704692
>spends hours having a melty over politics
>not a /pol/tard
kek

Stop fucking teasing me with brimhat Coco, god dammit.

>>279704718
>twitter screencap
You didn't have to expose yourself as a retard

>>279704306
She worked with Marvel, so she probably learned identity politics there. Women can fall to this kind of rabbit hole within weeks.

Are anons getting triggered by trigger warnings again?

>>279704820
That's not even what the word means or implies. There are no trigger warnings here to warn you about "inappropriate" content. So if people got upset about something in a manga that didn't include trigger warnings, then there would obviously be no debate about trigger warnings in the first place. Dilate.

Are anons getting triggered by anons getting triggered by trigger warnings again?

>>279697685
>Unreadable, it's so painfully generic I could barely get through the first two volumes.
is this bait? I've never found anything that hits all of the same notes as well as Magus does.

>>279690621 (OP)
You haven't yet reached the bad parts.

>>279704683
Easthies is so easy on the eyes

>>279704898
Not him but I felt the same way, it was like reading a textbook.

>>279704820
The mangaka was not showing shit like Goatse or a mp4 of a guy sucking a prolapsed rectum, so the warning was retarded.

>>279692903
>3 years
Nigga what!? I dropped this after the kid got his legs fixed and this was somehow a bad thing. How can it still be in that fucking festival?

>>279691341
Huh, that explain why the Brim hats are the "villain" even though their ideals aren't wrong. It seems like they are the victim of the oppressive magic government but the author has to make them commit some baby murder act once in a while to remind the audiences that they are the bad guys.

>>279704847
...what?

>>279704729
Insane, looking at a naked person isn't the same as literal rape. I can't believe every anime character who peeked at panties is now a rapist. Black Star? Rapist. Let's not differentiate.

>>279704989
It's different when you're fully clothed and expects to be seen like that, but instead someone is looking at your naked body

>>279704972
Arguing that people are getting triggered over trigger warnings is circular logic. The problem is still that trigger warnings were put there.

>>279704729
The guy makes a great point that it makes no sense to punish serious crimes and peeping the same way, by basically destroying someone's mind.

>>279690621 (OP)
The art is nice, but the way it's written is just obnoxious. The brimmed hats are 100% in the right for wanting various important forms of magic to be unbanned (especially healing magic, banning that is outright evil), but the author isn't able to actually write two factions having a compelling philosophical conflict, so she just makes all the brimmed hats act like murderous psychos to completely devalue their position.

>>279705008
Still don't see how that warrants a mindrape

The only thing the brimhats do at all points in this story is ruin lives. Why would you think there's a moral equivalence here?

>>279705010
That makes no sense. And a "yes" would have sufficed.

>>279705075
Mindrape is just how they punish any serious crime

>>279704989
On this point I have to agree with the retarded trannies who defend this manga. It all depends on the tone of the story. Sexual harassment is a serious crime so is taking seriously in a serious work, whereas in a comedy show, you can afford to be more lax. That doesn't change that the mangaka was having a mental breakdown over the metoo movement.

>>279705105
If you shoot someone for shop lifting it's the same thing

>>279705079
The brimhats only commit "bad acts" because the author write them that way. It's basically strawman against the opposing ideology. The pointed hat basically committed mass genocide and oppression against the brim hat because of a few occasions of magic being misuse and abused in history. Didn't the pointed hat also turned around and betrayed some of their own allies after the war and locked their magic as well?

>>279704963
I'm disabled, so what a fuck? Did the whore who made this paint healing the disabled as a bad thing? Tumblr fried her brain, holy shit. I would love to have my disability cured, type 1 diabetes patients would love never to have to inject insulin ever again, and people with ALS would love to move again.

>>279705163
>characters do things because the author writes them that way
Anon here seems to have a PhD in literary analysis.

>>279705199
He replied to someone who implied that this wasn't the case. Are you retarded?

>>279690621 (OP)
Nah, /a/ was right for once

I don't understand why people bitch and moan about the author's moralfaggotry so much. That energy could instead go into making edits like pic related which are a much stronger rebuttal.

>>279705330
>Not even full nudity
It's a minor crime at most

>>279705330
Bitches bitch because it's easy, anon.
>pic
Based, post more.

>>279705394
You can't just post things like that without trigger warning anon

but think about the consequences for society if every witch was allowed to look at anyone else naked whenever they wanted without punishment? something had to be done

>>279705330
Because I don't care about this shitty manga enough to spend anime effect on it.

Would you like to live in a society where those old apps to see people naked were real?
That would mean they could also see you and your loved ones naked too.

>>279690676
damn, I have been putting of reading this and Magus of the Library
nowhere left to run any more I guess

>>279704351
I don't think this character is meant to be seen as reasonable like the narrative you guys are trying to push here

>>279704683
What about here?>>279706105

>>279701931
Dunno why my post got eaten but I mean the protagonist not the premise. Emilico is everything the MC in this Trainwreck should have been

>>279706105
He's not. They just had a big fight over it. It's one of the big points of the arc.

>>279706188
Emilico is sexy

>>279691891
>ESL dribbling onto his keyboard
every fucking time

>>279704729
You have no idea what assault means. Fuck off, retard.

>>279705726
So it seems. So it seems...

>>279706909
I'm really annoyed that she's just bad.

>>279701976
>pissing off /pol/ AND /a/
Based

>>279701976
>It makes reading her work without projecting her politics on it practically impossible.
(You) problem.

>>279706870
retard racist, everytime!

>>279691930
It's never that subtle. If she wanted to do that, it would've been obvious and had some aspect of their relationship being secret or looked down on or whatever. But instead it's treated completely normally and without any sort of pushback. They're just a side couple, who happen to be gay, who exist as bit players in an already side show character's subplot.

/a/nons also got triggered by the female gestapo wizard getting triggered by the guy selling x-ray specs and getting super mad about it. They just can't handle any character expressing a strong moral opinion that is not immediate and explicitly shut down without treating it like its the author's screed.

>>279705183
>Did the whore who made this paint healing the disabled as a bad thing?
It's incredibly obvious that this is a big fucking debate within the story itself. The healers are specifically called out as having been against the prohibition on any human affecting magic, and erasing them from history is clearly backfiring as their successors are desperately trying to rediscover it, even without the memory that it's even possible. The central conflict recently was the kids realizing that upholding the law would mean condemning a man to death.

Get a grip people. If a children's fantasy story is too morally complicated for you to handle, just go read something more your speed.

>>279705163
Well yes, that's the whole point. The author is only portraying the coneheads as the one true way to practice magic despite all those "alt" covers showing us a brimhatted heroine. There is no debate, there is no nuance, there is no exploration of the conflict between the two philosophies. That's why it's a shit manga.

It's like if Dungeon Meshi were a series about how eating dungeon monsters caused mutations and suffering in whoever ate them.

>>279691317
not even that, some faggots just come from /v/ or the sharty and the moment they see any type of association with trannies or popularity with normies they start spamming like literal bots like what happened with DM after the anime came

Sexo with Qifrey

>>279701766
>I recall a big shitstorm here
>here
so nothing

>>279704760
meant for >>279692895

>>279705581
Keep bumping the thread for three more days

The major conflicts of both Magus of the Library and Witch Hat Atelier are on the auth-libertarian axis. The people complaing about them being woke are illiterate.

>>279709811
DM? duel monsters?

>>279709107
>There is no debate, there is no nuance, there is no exploration of the conflict between the two philosophies
I suppose the obvious pedophile wizard in one of the girls' backstory isn't a thing either.

>>279690621 (OP)
It's fucking totalitarian garbage.

>>279701976
I don't give a fucking shit about "muh trans rights". The author is a far left authoritarian totalitarian. THAT'S the real danger of " woke ", or marxism as you should be saying if people weren't afraid to call a spade a spade.

>>279697546
Dante Alighieri?

>>279711336
>The author is a far left ""authoritarian"" ""totalitarian"".
damn and I already liked the manga, guess I'll check her account
she better not be rainbow cap' or I'll fist your ass like you guys fisted Qaddafi-dono

>>279709819
Olugio…

>>279704729
Modern laws and sensibilties are bullshit.

>>279690621 (OP)
It was never that good aside from the art.
The characters are extremely basic and the plot is boring. I don’t give a shit about the muh wokeism.

>>279692307
>against the spirit of Japan itself.
I actually laughed out loud

I dropped it over 5 years ago when the manga became irredeemably boring. Is colorblind boy still a part of the cast or was he shoved into a dusty corner? He was by far one of the best characters.

>>279692895
absolutely based. I genuinely wish more mangaka were like this just so that stupid "japan is based as redpilled" meme you faggots push on this site finally dies.

>>279690621 (OP)
Why are people pretending to like this now?

>>279711376
Dante x Vergil is the real ship in the Divine Comedy, Beatrice is just Dante's simp cope.

>>279691434
>festival arc
it STILL is going on now, albeit we are like chapter or two from the end
agreed author got totally lost in its convoluted plots

>>279711970
Just joined the Brimhats after the reality of the pointy hats shattered his convictions one too many times. He doesn't trust the Brimhats either though, he's trying to play 4D chess to get info out of them.

>>279693508
>Coustas
is the biggest retarded asshole in whole manga. fucking hate him

>>279696419
hahahaha
no

>>279712124
I didn't like the Tartar netorare...it made him so stupid.

>>279694287
finally a decent post

>>279694485
why? because everything got so bad, its not needed to even say it?

>>279711972
You absolute retard.
Yoshiyuki Tomino, in his student years, hung out with literal communist extremists, bailing out once those started talking about actual terrorism and he realized that shit is starting to boil too hot for his comfort. Mamoru Oshii was the same way. Marxism, environmentalism, you name it. This industry has a long history of authors who harbored a lot of extreme (especially at the time) views and expressed them through art in masterful and creative ways. And it served to push the boundaries beyond what anyone on the planet was doing, and it made anime what it is today.
These zoomer "artists" are fucking pathetic in comparison. They scream about being woke online, stuff their bio on Twitter full of flags, pronouns, and other meaningless imagery only serving as quick virtue signals, they shit and piss themselves over the most demure and playful of jokes at their expense, and when time finally comes to make actual art, they make the most cookie-cutter, safe and derivative crap imaginable, stuff it full of gays and give it all the edge of bland porridge. These fags should be kept out because all they do is make useless noise while shitting up the industry with crap.

>>279696067
brim Coco has maximum rizz. and clearly author had the design ready from the very beginning

>>279706909
shouldve killed her when they had a chance

>>279711970
just turned traitor. gg

>>279705726
> putting of reading Magus of the Library
Why though?

>>279690621 (OP)
I wouldn't say straight up bad, but there are piles of wasted potential all over the place.

>>279690621 (OP)
>gun control the manga
It's shit, literally. The author tries to portray the mages as the only ones who should be allowed to use magic, while even the manga itself shows how retarded that is andnthat magic should be freely accessible. Yet the author political views blind him too much and make a mess of the story.

>>279692229
>everything I don't like is /pol/
Go back

>>279704351
basically, whenever a woke person tries to act morally superior remember that if it was for them they would kill you for a joke or a slap on the ass.

>>279704729
It's not sexual assault, it's a misdemeanor at most and erasing his money is just a power trip from the bitchy cunt

>>279698405
banning generals and meta threads

>>279697604
Most italian poets works are about them complaining about not getting bitches or getting so many bitches they don't understand what love is anymore. Don't confuse Tumblr's take on history as real history.

>>279690621 (OP)
>/a/ says this manga is great
>read it
>it's fucking undiluted kino
Shout out to Ajin too

>>279714178
I dropped the manga at that chapter with the dragon, was there any progress on whether the story is moving forward to "everyone should be able to use magic" or did the author really double down on the whole "woke police should be above everyone else"?

>>279690621 (OP)
I dropped it when it became clear that the author's final point of view is to uphold the laws, regardless of what they say. All characters who think the laws are unjust are portrayed as villains and jerks. Even if said laws would prevent saving lives. There shouldn't be any narrative reason to portray those character like that. It really got on my nerves. I might still give it a chance, maybe when it's over i'll binge it all at once.

>>279714508
>author's final point of view is to uphold the laws, regardless of what they say.
That's basically the asian mindset. Obey the rules, no matter if they are illogical or tell you to jump to your death. The whole concept of human rights is foreign to them.
Remember Japan has a 99.9% conviction rate like any third world dictatorship because to their justice system taking a random person, interrogating him for 2 weeks without letting him see a lawyer, take breaks (they have them shit themselves) or even sleep is totally acceptable. The poor guy will confess just to end his nightmare and to society there is nothing wrong with that since there was a crime and a culprit was found. The fact that he was innocent is irrelevant.

>>279714411
>money
Memory*

>>279692903
World Trigger has been in boat spreadsheet arc for at least 5 volumes but I don't think there's a significant loss in sales.

>>279691102
Leftist woke pozzed marxist slop by leftist woke marxist retard feminist woman author.

>>279714508
The three sages are convinced by Coco they should allow the use of forbidden time reversal magic to heal the mages and muggles injured by the leech, they just don't fully break their own ruleset on a technicality by drawing the spell on a chamber the people are put through rather than directly on their body. This leads one of the Knights Moralis to attack the sages for betraying the rules of the pointed hats and he gets a vat of sleeping potion dropped on him to stop him.

>>279714819
That's because it's read only by autistic people. Have you not noticed how everyone in the manga has the literal same expression no matter if they are getting killed or boned?
:-I

I think at this point its just a creative exercise for him try and to smear every chapter as hard s possible

>>279714688
That is legitimately fucked up if true.

>>279691102
No mangaka who sucks up to the cancerous western animation/Tumblr clique to the extent that this one does could possibly make anything worth reading.

>>279715055
It is true but the 99% conviction rate is also because the police wont pursue a case unless they either can pin the blame of the first guy around or if they don't have immediate damning evidence. There was an old documentary that stuck with me because when they asked the mother of a wrongly convicted guy what she tought she said she was sad but "someone had to be convicted for such a crime"

>>279692837
which chapter is this from?

>>279693617
That's the point. Both sides are wrong, you can't decide what's best for everyone but you also can't go around melting babies faces off

>>279690621 (OP)
It's shit, great art tho

>>279692107
You can exactly pinpoint the moment the author goes full woke, go woke get broke

>>279696863
I think it has a gay and some browns. Maybe a black person or two

>>279712252
didn't read lol

I love all these people in here that think the witch hat characters aren't being portrayed as bad for going to such lengths to enforce the magic ban.

>>279715502
lmao

>>279690732
it'll be a repeat of zom 100. they're going to blow all of their time and resources on episode 1.

>>279716081
They need to push false narratives to sound less retarded, like lying about the witch police being portrayed as the "good guys"

>>279691102
Because if you read this you'll hear the author's voice not the character's, which is a sign of very poor writting. The fact that it parrots leftist shit just makes it worse.

>>279690621 (OP)
I remember being told to read this once Meshi finished. Is it still worth a read now that it’s done and I can just power through the dragged on bits?

>>279715849
Did people hate Kabron in dungeon meshi because he was brown

>>279716654
I'd probably like him less if he wasn't
because he wouldn't be as sexy

>>279716654
They tried that one but the only one that stuck around was the deranged guy calling it "ugly tumbrl art"

>>279716081
i tought that was the case early on and had hope for the story, but the latest chapters and what the author said on twitter last month makes me lose hope

>>279715711
>Both sides are wrong,
No? Just because the people within the factions can be good or bad there is only one side who would unironically be the good guys, and that is the brimhats. Magic is a natural phenomena that anyone can practice, and a group of people who thinks themselves better than anyone elses decided to gatekeep that power to themselves, going as far as imprisoning, killing and wiping the memory of anyone who dares opposing them. Saying that both are wrong because some bad apples are in both sides would be like arguing against democracy because some dictators got democratically elected.

>>279717712
I agree the few bad brimhats give a bad name to the good ones like

>>279716909
>ugly tumblr art
Kinda fits

>>279716566
>Is it still worth a read now that it’s done
It's not over

>>279717887
>meshi actually has noses and isn’t conventionally anime
>so it has to be tumblr
Pic unrelated i just like falin

>>279717712
Magic needs to be controlled because the destruction potential should somone brilliant and amoral enough start doing his shit is simply too high, you can't just throw the world into anarcho magicracy but then again banning stuff like healing was pure retardation

>>279716566
Given the current pace you should give it 6-7 more years before the manga even starts to head into the final arcs, but I's say it's worth a read even currently, just treat it like Made in Abyss, pick up a new tankoubon when it releases and then forget about it until the next one comes out

>>279692307
YWNBJ

>>279718092
I never said it was bad, but it definetly has that usual "faggot roundness" for a lack of a better term that is common of rainbow artists. We ALL know what I'm talking about.

>>279718272
Not really, no.
Perhaps you’ve got actual brain rot.

>>279694647
Freien is garbage tho and doesn't have nearly the acclaim that Dungeon meshi does

>>279718317
Shame it got a lot of acclaim from normalfags but that’s always been the case.
I appreciate meshi more as a cult classic or lesser know but still fantastic manga.

What was the point of having the fags take care of Ininia? Will they become brimhats?

>>279718100
Healing leads to far more dangerous body altering magic, as we have seen. The pointies are right in their rules, the issue is their draconian punishments to enforce them, ironically making an arbitrary exception for some of the worst kind because mind wiping is convenient and effective for doing so.

>>279718100
>Magic needs to be controlled because the destruction potential should somone brilliant and amoral enough start doing his shit is simply too high
Literal retardation. That's like saying people shouldn't be allowed to vote just because both Hitler and Mussolini were democratically elected. There are things and rights that go above the safety of people. Would you give up your voting rights just because Hitler, Mussolini and Trump got democratically elected? I wouldn't Would you give up your guns just because someone elses uses their improperly? I wouldn't as it wouldn't resolve anything. Here in the EU our deadliest terrorist attack was committed with a truck, 92 deaths. Would you give up private ownership of cars and the ability to drive just because there are buses? I wouldn't.
It's the same with magic in the Witch Atelier world, the witches aren't putting some form of control or regulation on magic, they are outright keeping anyone but themselves from using it, learning it while they keep the masses in control and influence kings and courts with special deals. It would be like having a selected group of people in our world say that only they can have access to education, healthcare, guns, voting etc, while you're left in the dark like cattle.
>>279718396
>Healing leads to far more dangerous body altering magic
Who says those same magics wouldn't get better if they were to be studied by more people as it happens IRL when free information exhchange is allowed? The whole theme of WHA could be compared to raising a child (humanity) it's only when you allow your child to take risks and experience things that he can actually improve and grow, if you smother your child in bibblewrap you'll never have him grow, he'll just age. There is zero arguments in favor of the witches
>muh magical murder
they can kill just as good with swords and arrows.

>>279718299
Sounds like you can't handle different opinions

>>279718572
the last time magic was free for everyone they almost destroyed the world, the only real solution is to stop it from existing at all but they can't do that so all they can do is try to keep it controlled

>>279718572
>selected group of people in our world say that only they can have access to education, healthcare, guns, voting etc, while you're left in the dark like cattle.
thats exactly what happens every day in the world and nobody cares

>>279717712
>Everyone should have access to atomic weapons

>>279718572
Magic is less something like democratic rights and more something like a specialized tool. We restrict selling thing like fission material and dangerous chemicals because people have fucked up using them, is like when that trend of doing Fractal Burning got people killed so they had to restrict it.

>>279718667
What stops the pointy hats from destroying the world? I hate that whole "they almost destroyed the world" bullshit because it's a copout from the author to stifle any talking points against her own ideals, instead of portraying the humans as actual humans they are a mockery of a goblin who would go crazy as soon as they lay their hands on magic. Why haven't the pointy hats gone mad with power? Oh right, they are an assemble of Mary Sues so they can only have minor flaws while the brimhats are all cartoonishly evil.
The entire premise is just stupid and written to favor the author retarded and authoritarian viewpoint.
>>279718820
and once it's in a cute manga format people are all for it
>>279718832
In the WHA world a single person can't wield nuke magic as far as I remember. Going immediately to extremes is just a retarded and fearmongering tactic. They use it even in favor for gun control saying if people had a right to guns everyone would kill each others, meanwhile Interpol and US data shows the contrary that the places with the most legal gun ownership have the least gun crimes statistics. see how 60% of all shooting in the US are committed in cities where you can't even own legally a gun like NY Chicago etc.
>>279718918
Not comparable since both of those things can still either be bought under a certain limit (fission material like uranium ore and chemicals) and fractal burning is 100% legal just dumb to do if you're not proficient. Meanwhile in the WHA world magic can go from making flower dance, heal people or make people kaboom. Magic is a tool like a knife is, would you prohibit kitchen knives because someone can stab you with a screwdriver?
Hell, the most reasonable thing would be to just keep the most dangerous magics hidden, yet the magical KKK decided to prohibit everything and subject you to brainwashing if you ever discover something on your own since you're not a part of their club.

>>279719034
>Hell, the most reasonable thing would be to just keep the most dangerous magics hidden, yet the magical KKK decided to prohibit everything and subject you to brainwashing if you ever discover something on your own since you're not a part of their club.
I hope you're trying to discuss this in good faith because, nigga, that's exactly to were the manga is going. Coco getting tired of everyone lying and keeping secrets is like the thematic focus.

>>279719034
>What stops the pointy hats from destroying the world?
Nothing at all, as we can see from the magic cops abusing their authority. You should try actually reading the story instead of just compiling shitposts from threads to pretend you have like an ai chatbot.

>>279719034
>What stops the pointy hats from destroying the world
Because nobody has access to that kind of stuff anymore, brimhats are researching forbidden magic but they are basically reinventing it from scrap while being actively pursued and mindraped by magic gestapo
>they are an assemble of Mary Sues so they can only have minor flaws
moralis are full-on antagonists, all the main characters are always tiptoeing around them because you're always one slip up away from mindrape with them, they are presented as people so they have more dimensions than le evil moustache twirling monster #1,# and #3 but they are far from being only slightly flawed

>>279719106
>I hope you're trying to discuss this in good faith
Yeah. My main point is that magic should be for everyone in the WHA world.
>that's exactly to were the manga is going
I hope so, I dropped it a while ago since the festival bored me. I'll pick it up again once I know for sure there has been some actual development regarding free magic, cause if the author unironically pushes a "yeah magic is too dangerous for for humans" I'll .
>>279719215
You should learn to take criticism and argument your viewpoint instead of simply accusing people of not having read the manga because you don't like what they say.
>>279719303
>Because nobody has access to that kind of stuff anymore
Another reason why there is no issue with allowing everyone to learn magic. Hell, with the entire world using magic it would be easier to crack down on people researching magic that is too dangerous.
>moralis are full-on antagonists
It didn't really seem that way to me but it's been a while since I last reread it.

>>279719466
I honestly hope you're just lying for replies because unironic mental gymnastics to frame every plot point that goes against what you want to believe as writer bias might be even more juvenile

>>279719466
>Another reason why there is no issue with allowing everyone to learn magic
The issue is that if you allow unpoliced research of magic someone at some point will invent WHA's equivalent of atomic bomb or come up with some other horrors beyond human comprehension. Mutated leech that almost took down the whole town with some of the strongest magic users around was a result of taking eyes off one crazed brimhat for a minute. Surprisingly the way that very same issue was solved in naruto seems the most believeable and intuitive.

>>279719720
>no argument
cool
>>279720408
>The issue is that if you allow unpoliced research of magic someone at some point will invent WHA's equivalent of atomic bomb or come up with some other horrors beyond human comprehension
Then "police" it like it's currently done with real research, there is still zero reasons why they should ban all magic

>>279720408
>one crazed brimhat
wasnt even brimhat, more like asshat. until recently the oldfuck was one of the Sages, pinhats own political top, but he was arrested for being too corrupt even for their standards.

>>279720408
But what's stopping that someone being from the faction in control? Are they inherently more righteous as to not fear magic being in their hands?

>>279720762
As you know from the latest arc - no, there is no such guarantee and the alleged good guys can be just as vile and corrupt they paint their enemies to be.

>>279720762
This is the entire idea behind the conflict and should be very obvious from reading. Nobody is pretending the pointies are purely good, but their flawed system doesn't make the magic terrorists morally superior for opposing them.

This shit is literally aimed at preschoolers

>>279690621 (OP)
You know something is shit when people start to claim "this is fantasy done right".

>>279721583
That's even worse. You shouldn't inject your political beliefs into a kids manga. Especially when it's batshit crazy insane like what she says

>>279721642
Not in this era rotted by isekai.

>>279721848
>your political beliefs into a kids manga
Exactly, we should burn all works by Osamu Tezuka and Keiji Nakazawa (for starters)

>>279721981
two wrongs don't make one right

>>279721848
American leftoids groom then when they're young.

>>279712062
>>279697546
Read the manga and didn't find any Dante there.
But yes, in case you didn't knew Dante x Virgilio is canon, our boy is after Beatrice only on paper, he thirsts for the knowledge of the ancient poet.

>>279721848
The series is in Morning Two, which is a seinen magazine.

>>279721848
What if they are based and redpilled political beliefs

>>279725084
Politics I like = Education
Politics I don't like = Grooming
Get with the double standard already

>>279721583
>>279721848
It's a seinen manga retard

>>279725084
Also wrong.
>>279727303
Shu up it's a kids/teen manga

>>279727559
kids and teens are different readership groups and if you can't deal with this topics as a teen you may be clinically retarded

>>279727559
>Also wrong.
But what if they are REALLY based and redpilled, like almost common sense but you can't express them in the clown world