Thread 279701727

If elves are going extinct, then why didnt they have sex?

>>279701727 (OP)
Because they don't feel like it.

>>279701727 (OP)
I honestly refuse to buy the “suicidally low sex drive” thing. Simple attrition would have wiped them out very quickly if they were too asexual to get laid. No species evolves like that.

>>279701767
they're collectively bored nihilists. Serie probably has a spell that makes her cum a thousand times in 1 second

>>279701727 (OP)
>then why didnt they have sex?

No one will fuck them. Consider how ugly Serie is.

>>279701727 (OP)
With their slow aging, who knows how long it takes a baby to grow.
Imagine waking up at night to change diapers for a century.

>>279701727 (OP)
99 year pregnancy.

>>279701727 (OP)
Because WHO would have sex with Serie?

>>279701727 (OP)
All he had to do was Grab Her By The Pussy…

>>279701862
I would hate to be a young promising child mage who is taken as Serie's servant for life haha

>>279701862
ME

>>279701727 (OP)
lesbianism

>>279701767
It's implied they are already 99% wiped out. The only elves left are extremely old and experienced, and less than a handful in number.

>>279701767
Says the degenerate

Cerebrality is antithetical to sensuality

>>279701767
They're immortal. They don't really need to they don't really have the drive to.

>>279701767
Yet the panda is a prime example of this.

>>279701874
Disgusting half-elf rats.

>>279702759
>They're immortal. They don't really need to they don't really have the drive to.

Basic rational logic would dictate that functional immortality clearly isn’t good enough for preserving the species if your almost extinct.

Should be going at it like rabbits on ecstasy

>>279701767
I already find it gross in my short lifespan, now imagine being 5,000 years old

>>279701727 (OP)
If they breed with humans, then they'll still go extinct and only make watered down generations of half-elves.

>>279702656
This sounds profound and all but you can just have unironic emotionless missionary sex for the purpose of reproducing Vulcan style

>>279703318
>decide someone is optimal for exchanging genes
>meet someone more optimal centuries later
How do you escape this analysis paralysis

>>279701727 (OP)
>>279701767
>>279701787
So elves are literally Japs?
>aloof
>not very social
>low sex drive
>autistic

Elves like Frieren just need to come into contact with elves that have experience with mating.

>>279703226
have you considered that they don't care

>>279702826
Pandas should have gon extinct centuries ago, they only reason they exist is because the chinese are autisticly obsessed with them.

>>279701767
Suicidally low sex drive is a thing that has driven species extinct and there are endangered species right now that are endangered because of it. They still have numbers because they can live for thousands of years and procreating twice in like a 4000 year (or more) timespan to create more beings that live for thousands of years is enough to keep them from dying off completely. If they weren't being genocided, they'd still probably be the most dominant race in Frieren's world in fact.

>>279701767
Indeed

>>279704749
this is partly correct, chinks used to eat them

>>279701727 (OP)
They probably had arranged marriages, fertility rituals and other social pressures before their villages got wiped out and they aren't equipped for procreating without those structures.
Frieren and Kraft were in close proximity for months and neither felt it was pertinent to discuss the survival of their race. Not even a "in a thousand years if we're both still single we should get married" kind of thing.

God I wish 1000-year-old autistic elf mages were real

>>279701767
Yeah it's another contrivance.
>>279702629
A race of immortal mages and warriors that can't maintain a settlement larger than a village deserves to be wiped out if we're being serious. Another reason to like Demons over Elves; actual survival instincts.

Why do you guys keep getting stuck on the fact that they don't care if they go extinct?

>>279701767
>I honestly refuse to buy the “suicidally low sex drive” thing. Simple attrition would have wiped them out very quickly if they were too asexual to get laid.

>>279706237
Because that's stupid. An entire species so stricken by apathy and emotionlessness that they're perfectly fine just rotting away?

>>279701727 (OP)
only goblins can make them wet

>>279701727 (OP)
>>279701767
Elves are lesbians

>>279706382
It's not necessarily apathy or a lack of emotion. They just don't care if their species lives or dies. They have plenty of other things they care about.

>>279706339
Pandas had no problem thriving in nature since before Homo sapiens were a thing, they only started struggling when humans started destroying their habitat just like tigers. They are basically large specialized animals who require a large territory

Freakren

>>279701727 (OP)
They don't care. It's not like the elves themselves see that as a problem.

>>279706237
The author belongs to a race that is going extinct so you'd expect there to be some messaging in there somewhere addressing that.

>>279701727 (OP)
If whites are going extict then why they don't have sex?
Sometimes it just happen

>>279704751
Then you get one "cursed" like Elinalise to need to get plowed constantly.

>>279706467
... so just like elves? Pretty sure even Serie or Flamme told Frieren that it would be the age of humans soon. Elves got displaced because of demons and humans.

>>279701727 (OP)
>>279701767
>Elf men too beta or into their otaku shit to even date/fuck
>Human men either too pussy, honorable, or respectful to make a move
>Goblins don't make elves
>Only option left is orcs
Turns out orcs don't even like elf women and it's a anti-orc stereotype created by racist humans and coomers.

>>279706766
The author isn't Korean, he's Japanese

>>279701727 (OP)
>AIslop
What the fuck is wrong with you nigger
Jump off a bridge and end your worthless life

>>279701767
Maybe they're like Eldar in 40k and you need to cum inside them dozens of times over a long period of time

>>279701727 (OP)
Post more OP. Fuck this dude >>279707460

>>279707460
Shut the fuck up.

>>279708720
Kill yourself nigger

Elves having low sex drive is fine. What's contrived is not a single elf giving a shit about the future of their race. Demons care more about the future of their kind than elves do, which is absurd.

>>279708808
If there were me and like 30 other humans I also wouldn't give a shit.

>>279708808
Why are they obligated to care about it? I certainly hardly care about the future of the human race.

>>279708808
This is why elves get raped all the time. Chad humans and orcs are trying to save their race from extinction.

>>279707365
"going extinct slower" doesn't mean "not going extinct" anon

Human races going extinct is a self-solving problem. Each country still has highly reproductive communities (e.g., the Amish in the US, Haredi in Israel). The atheists will die out and religion will prevail.

>>279701754
Surely Serie has some kind of libido spell

>>279701727 (OP)
Reminder that Frieren is the only confirmed female elf left in the world
She would have to repopulate with either Kraft (male) or Serie (ambiguous sex)

>>279709168
but Serie has visible tits though

>>279709209
booba spell

>>279701727 (OP)
elves are based and don't believe in premarital sex

Why do we assume elves need sex to reproduce?
Aren't elves beings of magic? Wouldn't they need just magic to reproduce? Do they even give birth? Maybe just a ritual to create a "cocoon" with young elf child, that grows as it is imbued by the magic. The child then gains attributes of those that gave it it's magic.
That means that single elf can have a child on their own. So can two elves, irrespective of gender. Or whole village can "grow" an elf child.

>>279701727 (OP)
If their number is low enough where the inbreeding would make a rebound impossible then that would explain it.

Maybe they aren't reproducing because at this point it is simply hopeless.

>>279710627
Maybe elves can even grow sponaneously. In area with dense magic, an elf cocoon spawns on it's own and then grows by absorbing ambient magic.

>>279710659
The answer is simple, she needs to breed with human men

>>279707365
South Korean feminism is what astrophysicists refer to as the Great Filter.

I wish I was an elf. It would be very fulfilling to me to just be an immortal wanderer going around looking at stuff for thousands of years and seeing the world progress

>>279710982
Your crime is miscegenation. Your punishment is 50 Zoltraaks.

>>279701727 (OP)
That just looks grotesque. Why did you save this?

>>279701767
>Simple attrition would have wiped them out very quickly if they were too asexual to get laid. No species evolves like that.
Anon, there's almost no place on Earth with any hint of modern civilisation that isn't dying out.
And the only forecast is that "yeah, for some magical reason, people will suddenly flip a switch and every female alive will suddenly find it unacceptable not to have 3 kids in the 2100s".

>>279701767
It makes sense
>elves can live for thousands of years
>they breed like humans
>their numbers explode since they don't fucking die
>local resources start running dry because there's too many elves
>either most of them starve or they completly suck the land dry and move on with their numbers growing endlessly until the entire biosphere collapses under their weight
Long lived species not having many offspring is a thing in real life for a reason.
The obvious weakness is what happend in Frieren: A sudden massive population collapse like through genocide is something the elves simply cannot recover from with their mix of low numbers and low sex drive.

>>279701727 (OP)
Every elf women turned into lesbians.

>>279711838
That damn methode... corrupting our elves...

>>279701727 (OP)
Yuri happened.

>>279701727 (OP)
They discovered yurisex is feels 10000000x better than hetsex.

>>279710982
We don't even know if human elf crossbreeding is even possible, let alone if it results in viable offspring

>>279701727 (OP)
>If elves are going extinct, then why didnt they have sex?
YURI WON!

>>279711889
>YURI WON!

Futanari still exist

>>279707365
No he ain't, he's Laotian

>>279701727 (OP)
One word. ***YURI***

>>279712181
He mindcontrolled all the elves into not reproducing? What a evil man

>>279712181
>***YURI***
WON!

Why does Serie turns me on so much?

>>279711643
This forecast sucks. I prefer "human men will start waking up with affectionate elven women in their beds"

>>279712388
You want a smug bitch to step on your balls

>>279712388
Because she is a lesbian.

>>279711643
>Isn't dying out
Most of them are doing fine?

>>279701767
How the fuck are so many people replying to this without having read the series.
It's explicitly stated that with the population scattered, they don't have the opportunities for interaction they used to. Because they lived for so long they would take tens to hundreds of years just getting to know each other, which is the same reason Frieren was so upset (belatedly) by Himmel's death: "Oh time for these guys moves so fast".

>>279712469
>implying people on /a/ watch anime or read manga

>>279701727 (OP)
they're too smart for their own good and fry their brains with magic delights which put sex to shame. just like a heroin addict won't care about sex, just the drug.

>>279711643
In a world where everything is easy, people will run from anything that's even remotely hard, like having kids. And that goes for women especially.
The fertility crisis will not be solved in the modern world until artificial wombs and robot nannies are everywhere to make having children as easy as everything else in modern life.
Either that or just remove any decision making from women, but there's even less chances that will happen

>>279712464
Pretty much every country out there is below replacement level as far as reproduction goes. That means we are going the elf route, we can't see it yet cause we're too early in the process, but the same thing is happening to us

>>279710627
>Aren't elves beings of magic?
No? They have more mana and affinity for magic than humans and dwarves according to the databook, but that's it. They're not like demons. Also, I'd wager demons still fuck to reproduce even though that's one we don't know for sure.

>>279713581
>according to the databook
what databook?

>>279713457
They will just tell men to feel more profound shame and be better so that women would want to have kids with them.

>>279713472
Who "we"? Humans? Humans are the opposite of the elven route. Human population is still growing, even though the planet already can't sustain the current population level.

>>279714975
>Human population is still growing
pic related
>the planet already can't sustain the current population level
Thats blatantly false

>>279714847
This one. We've talked about it before. There's almost nothing of interest in it though.

>>279708720
Kill yourself.

>>279707009
Elinalise takes pounding for whole race.

>>279701727 (OP)
One elf to breed them all.
Gods made her to restore the elven race.
No matter what cums inside her, the offspring is still an elf.

>>279715458
Wouldn't it be more sensible to have a male elf for that? He could impregnate any number of females per day, while the female elf is limited to around a birth per year. There's no way she can restore the elven race on her own.

>>279715492
>while the female elf is limited to around a birth per year.
For her it was less than day, maybe few hours.

>>279715492
People inherit more of their genes from the mother due to the X chromosome and mtDNA

>>279704199
Japs are very horny but elves aren't

>>279712469
>Because they lived for so long they would take tens to hundreds of years just getting to know each other
Does this mean Frieren dating Himmel for a couple of years and then settling down with him to pump out babies would've made her look like a turbo-slut by elf standards?

>>279706382
An species that's like, ten dudes at most. And they survived because they werent the social ones.

>>279704751
that bitch is a half

>>279716506
their birth rates say otherwise

>>279714864
They tried to do the opposite in South Korea a d they're worse than ver. Turns out women prefer dying alone to be forced with people they hate.

>>279701767
It DID wipe them out. Like, that's literally one of the main plot points, the demons wiped them out once they appeared. This is a fantasy universe, it's not millions of years old, new species popped into existence within the lifetimes of some of the elves. They simply didn't have any predators so they turned into Dodo. Almost no libido is not completely no libido, if you live for eternity you're gonna get laid a couple times just out of curiosity. And it's enough to keep the species going - until it's not because a predator appeared.

>>279706467
The Elves had no problem thriving in nature since before Demons were a thing, they only started struggling when Demons started killing them off just like tigers. They are basically large specialized animals who require a large territory

>>279701727 (OP)
Half the cast is insanely hot, but nothing compares to Serie.

>>279701727 (OP)
>AIslop
Fuck off.

>>279716836
Horniness is expressed in masturbation rates, not birth rates. If anything, its detrimental to childbirth. You only need to fuck once to have a child.

>>279718221
Where did you find that?

>>279718438
plucked it from your mind

>>279717022
Serie is ugly af, the only ones that seem to simp for her are slavs and gay men, for some reason
Nips don't think much of her either

elves owe me sex

fuck humans

and marry demons

>>279701727 (OP)
Same as westerners today.
Long and easy life, and the promise that there ight be something better in the future. The "is this it, is this all I amount to?" feeling.

Why would I swipe right, maybe tomorrow someone better might comes along. It's a human catalogue. And even if you think ok, maybe that was good, maybe I should have stayed, you just keep thinking ok, someone like that matched with me once, I have to keep swiping left until someone like that comes again.
It's the same for the elves. Long life, they don't feel to be in a hurry. Maybe in a hundred years I could get a better one.

>>279718221
>>279718551
That text is disgusting.

>>279720262
sex is disgusting

Go read the new Serie x Sense doujin on Sad Panda. Now!

>>279720534
>yuri
I sleep

>>279720768
It's futa, so it's sorta halfway straight anyways.

>>279720867
Frieren-sama...

>>279701727 (OP)
Frieren is too pure to even consider sex an option, I doubt she even goes to the toilet

whats the appeal of frieren, Im 6 eps in and so far it just kinda looks nice

>>279721374
Primarily its comfy vibe, deliberate and unhurried pacing, an adventure intricately linked to Frieren's processing of her past and her self understanding leading to wistful feelings.
You might have to be Proustpilled for this one.

>>279721768
hmm Ill just take it easy make some coffee and just relax while wathcing then, maybe Ill like it more

>>279721374
>whats the appeal of frieren
Hype moments and Aura

>>279701767
this is ripped off from tolkien by the way

>>279702826
False, pandas breed well in the wild, comparable to some populations of other bears in fact. They just have trouble breeding captivity for a variety of reasons.

>>279701727 (OP)
The only living male elf we know about is a monk and presumably celibate. They probably can't reproduce with humans or dwarves. As for why they didn't when there were more males around, they were too busy being wiped out due to the Demon King's "kill all the elves" order.

>>279721871
No it's not. Tolkien elves fuck.

>>279722236
Frieren elves do too, just not often, or only after long courtship periods. Frieren probably wasn't around her own kind long enough to even witness a full courtship before most of them were killed off.

Take Frieren and Himmel for example. With them it may well have been the elf equivalent of love at first sight given how much Frieren has dedicated to him, but it still took her 80 years to even start to see Himmel in a romantic life or realize he was in love with her. Before that it simply didn't seem to register.

It may well be typical elf courtship takes centuries before they have children.

>>279722349
We need elf gigasluts who fuck on the elf equivalent of the first date (=within 50 years).

>>279701727 (OP)
>Somehow get married to Serie
>Get her pregnant
Would she be a good mother? Would she still think about you all those years later?

>>279714995
>Thats blatantly false

Indeed, we actually produce more than enough food each year to feed everyone, the trouble is that the food supply is not distributed to everyone (for logistical, political and spoilage reasons).

>>279722473
>Would she still think about you all those years later?
When anybody asks about you she'd say that you were just a silly human who never achieved his full magic potential just to be with an elf.
Then she goes to her magic flower field, checks that nobody is watching, and cries a little.

>>279716883
>the demons wiped them out once they appeared.

Not quite. Elves have combated demons for ages, what changed was the Demon King uniting and organizing demons to a degree that had never happened before. That was something the elves simply couldn't handle (and neither could humans, given two thirds of them had been killed off by the time the Demon King was killed).

Sweaty elf!

>>279722576
>Then she goes to her magic flower field, checks that nobody is watching, and cries a little.
Exactly how I would think. She'd still love you all these years later.
>>279722473
She'd seem like an uncaring mother from the outside but is pretty doting in her own Serie way.

>>279704354
What's her endgame?

>>279701767
Explain incels then.

>>279723056
Fuck these leaves. There is no need to censor since she is fully clothed.

Because the author's shitty writing.
A race with supposedly such a terrible sex drive would've died off ages ago or not even have become a race in the first place. Even with a low sex drive you would procreate for numerous reasons anyway.
The author just wanted a shitty excuse for why there are so few elves and why they are autistic.

>>279702759
>They're immortal.
They're not. They simply don't die of old age likes other races do.

>>279707205
>... so just like elves?
Except elves are not stupid animals.

>>279725005
Author simply want to inject yurishit and gayshit. That is the only viable reason why a man and a woman would not want to have sex at all. If they were straight, they would not mind making babies even if they have no sex drive.

>>279725005
>Except elves are not stupid animals.
Remind me how many of them are alive again? There used to be a lot of them but never bothered learning how to seriously defend themselves from demons (only the outliers did and the ones who are still alive).

I mean just look at their faces.

>>279725845
>I mean just look at their faces.
They look like your everyday lesbian.

>>279725005
>A race with supposedly such a terrible sex drive would've died off ages ago or not even have become a race in the first place. Even with a low sex drive you would procreate for numerous reasons anyway.
>The author just wanted a shitty excuse for why there are so few elves and why they are autistic.

How are you quantifying this? We don't know nearly enough to say elves did not procreate enough to survive under natural conditions. The reason there are so few is deliberate genocide.

>>279725845
>There used to be a lot of them but never bothered learning how to seriously defend themselves from demons.

It's more that just like humans and dwarves, the vast majority of them did not have the strength to defend themselves against organized demon forces. Elves were rarer to begin with, so they suffered even more, but they were not any less capable on average of defending themselves than the other human species.

>>279726586
>the vast majority of them did not have the strength to defend themselves against organized demon forces
>WAKU WAKU, THESE DEMONS SOUND TOUGH! I WANT TO BATTLE WITH THEM!

>>279701767
elf females used to kidnap human men and mated with them
but thanks to human society improvement security matters improved as well and elved could no longer kidnap human men to mate with the females

>>279701862
ME ALL DAY

There's an anon who posted a deep dive on elf reproductive characteristics where he likened them to deer vs humans. Essentially they have 3-4 days of horny, no period, no mess. It's like multiple paragraphs long, someone posted it in a previous thread when this question was brought up

>>279701767
I mean, you live for tens of thousands of years, and you only need to have sex once to keep your species alive. It makes sense.

>>279701727 (OP)
It literally doesn't make sense that a humanoid being doesn't have sex drive.
Why do you have boobs and pussy then?
And no, asexuals are a minority, it doesn't count as an argument because Frieren makes clear that this is the norm for elves

>>279706405
You know lesbians can actually breed. Falin will breed Marcille like no tomorrow.

>>279728808
Elf children existed (Flamme refers to Frieren's village as having had children in it) so they do have some sex drive. I'd wager Frieren just hadn't lived long enough to see much of it.

Given she doesn't even mention the genocide when she refers to elves slowly going extinct, she was probably simplifying things a lot. "Across the board we lack reproductive instincts" probably meant more "we have a very low or slow sex drive," rather than no sex drive at all.

>>279718221
Series would erase the AI from existence

>>279728984
everything is possible with magic

Now that I think about it, if elves have longer lifetimes, does that mean their pregnancy also last longer?
How old is Frieren in human years?

>>279729034
they might have some elven breeding ritual they do every so many years and Frieren either isn't aware of it or doesn't see the point of it if there aren't enough elves around

You're all over thinking it
The writer just wanted to make Frieren a virgin and explicitly convey that but in a roundabout way.
It's not about world building or explaining elf population numbers (near genocide would have been enough), its just pandering to purityfags

>>279729034
She seems to understand that she has sex appeal, remember when she tried to seduce Sein?

She also got exited with that potion that dissolved clothes.

>>279729173
That's why this anime is shit.
Zero tension

>>279728395
>male
>female
>only need to have sex once
At 100% fertility, you would need to do at least 2.1 average to continue the species. Elves would have had to somehow grow their number beyond their primordial ancestors so we can assume they would, at minimum, have sex three times.

>>279725005
>>279725005
>A race with supposedly such a terrible sex drive would've died off ages ago or not even have become a race in the first place.
There could also be cultural / psychological reasons for it. As mentioned above here, >>279712469
Human fertility is falling as well due to things like population density, behavior sink, etc. Inb4 birth control, cities have always been negative impact on birth rates well established hundreds of years ago.

>>279714995
>predicted to fall below replacement rates by 2050
You are saying that we are predicted to fall below at some point in the future. What this means, implicitly, is that we are currently not below replacement rates, as a species, now.
If you dive into sub-sections of the population such as "japanese", "koreans", "europeans", then I would absolutely agree. But as a whole, by virtue of including "africans', "indians",and etc., we, as "humans", are currently not below replacement.
Be wary of extrapolation. A mere 10-20 years ago we were "predicted" to grow to 15 billion or so.

>>279701727 (OP)
those weak elves can't handle elf pussy

>>279720262
it is LLM output, of course it's objectionable to a real human

>>279729291
it's a given that Frieren is a virgin though
elves don't fuck for pleasure and she has no children

>>279703480
"more optimal"
Gotta love frierentards

>>279729173
And modern science. There are rats alive today that have no father but two mothers for instance.

>>279708808
That's what I'm saying.

>>279731118
>>279708808

I figured the idea is that they do care, but they keep pushing it off for another day while focusing on easier or more quickly gratifying interests, only for it to get to the point where it's too late to start a family.

>>279731416
Another issue may be that the surviving elves have no particular sense of even being a society, culture or species. They've all spent more time alone or with other species than with their own. It's telling that whenever we see any living elf encounter another elf they treat it as a curiosity before returning to the lifestyle they've already been content with rather than as any opportunity to rediscover some shared cultural heritage or societal bond.

>>279731612
So, you're saying, the solution is an elf nationalism, of sorts?

>>279701727 (OP)
You could ask the same about humans.

>>279732315
I don't like this creature; her smug aura annoys me.

>>279729183
It's intentionally unclear. It's been about 1000 years since Flamme was born and grew to an age of majority to change Frieren. We don't know how much longer before that Frieren was fucking around in her village. She hasn't had any apparent signs of aging in the 1000 years of the timeline. Normal humans are noticeably different like every 5 years. So a millenia could be less than the equivalent of 5 years for an elf if we want to follow that line of logic. Though, they could age quicker until they get to the age of majority and THEN stop aging, but we just don't know.

>>279732570
should say *train Frieren, not change

>>279732570
>We don't know how much longer before that Frieren was fucking around in her village.

We don't know precisely, but we do know it was much less than a thousand years, since Frieren and Serie both note that she has spent most of her life mastering the mana training Flamme taught her. That she's substantially less than 2000 years old is supported by how she calls herself "more than a 1,000 years" old, refers to her adventure with Himmel as less than 1/100th of her life, etc. instead of going for descriptions that indicate she is much older than a 1,000.

I'd speculate she was maybe two hundred years old when she met Flamme, since she was already old enough to not regard the 50 years she spent with Flamme as all that long (though if elves are born with that perspective on time then she could have been substantially younger at that time).

Is there any art of Serie being a mother?

>>279729183
Elves ovulate once every 10 years. If the same ratio applies to pregnancy, then each gestation takes 92 years.

>>279732514
It arouses me, brother.

>>279733437
Shit, me too, but its also annoying.

>>279733437
Why did the OP make Serie look like the villain? I feel super cucked that she's not a bad guy

>>279733448
Once she gives me the
>elf-fucker spell of long life and scaling magical power that makes a human powerful enough to capture Serie's heart
I think it would be less annoying. Given about 1,000 years or so

>>279733476
Elves could never be the villain. In fact seeing her in the intro baited me into 26 episodes of waiting for her golden, smug ass. And I die happy.

>>279732315
>So, you're saying, the solution is an elf nationalism, of sorts?
But it is gone. It's like if you try to revive Carthaginian Nationalism; there is no damn Carthage anymore and the surviving descendants don't remember.

>>279701727 (OP)
I swear to God this board is too thirsty for a Frieren chapter.
People are getting insane because of the lack of content.

>>279718221
>>279718551
Stop posting your indian man simulator.

>>279733476
>Why did the OP make Serie look like the villain? I feel super cucked that she's not a bad guy
She is sort of not a good person by certain definitions. If you go by the belief of not doing anything is the same as doing something bad.

I guess what I am saying is that she isn't an activist. She sits back and watch bad things happen without helping. She has power but not the responsibility.

>>279722149
From what I've heard the females only get into the mood when the males fight each other. They also have a very short mating season of only a few days per year, but that's no different with lots of other animal species.

How would Serie be as a mother to a half elf half human son?

>>279706210
they listened to the demons and tried diversity. be warned.

>>279718763
>F*rn over Ubel
This poll is gay as fuck

>>279708808
This is why evil crushes good with ease. They put effort to it

I do not find Frieren attractive.

>>279733702
>She sits back and watch bad things happen without helping. She has power but not the responsibility.

Maybe during parts of her life, but she seems plenty responsible after forming the Continental Magic Association. She's the one sending out her students to save people from demons, and she took on Macht herself intending to kill him because of how dangerous he was.

As for not stopping the demon king, if Flamme is to be believed that was simply because she couldn't.

>>279734196
Frieren is very cute in a generic way.

Why are we bumping an AI thread...

>>279734202
I didn't say she is a bad person either, just saying for someone as powerful as she is, she is doing the bare minimum.

>>279733476
Thinking about it, in most manga, she would be. She's, arguably, the only person we've seen who's more powerful than Frieren, and they are ideologically opposed. Her not being at least a minor antagonist is kinda weird.

>>279734328
>she is doing the bare minimum

As opposed to what? Going out and scouring the continent for demons herself? I figure they would just all go into hiding if she went on the warpath, then emerge when she left.

It's worth remembering that the flashback implies that Elves were specifically targeted for extermination by the DK. This does not seem to apply to humans and dwarves, even if the end result wasn't dissimilar.

>>279733217
>each gestation takes 92 years.
Imagine being an elf woman and be heavily pregnant for a whole century. No wonder they don't want to become pregnant.

>think maybe I want to rewatch frieren because season 2 is out
>go to check
>season 2 is not out
am I going insane? I thought some new content released

>>279701767
imagine an essentially immortal race
since they live so long they don't really see the need to reproduce often and probably only have their first child a few 100 years into their life. maybe it just takes longer for them to have babies?
this is a very slow way to reproduce but with how long elves life why should they feel pressured to have more kids. you can still have millions of elves that are just centuries apart in age
most elves just decide to be explorers of some sort so even if they are large in numbers, they aren't going out of their way to mingle with other elves

now what happens when they just start getting killed?

>>279734932
Your future self time leaped back in time.

I stopped reading about 2 years ago. Is Stark still just there for comic relief and background shit or does he have a bigger role now?

>>279736675
The current (on hiatus) arc is trying to hype up warriors and wanks how much better they are than mages (Frieren jobs to a dude with a knife). Stark still does nothing.

>>279701727 (OP)
Would Serie give birth to your childs if you show her you are skilled in magic?

>>279701727 (OP)
it's trouble

>>279736710
>Frieren jobs to a dude with a knife
kek, that sounds fucking retarded. Seems like I will continue to ignore it for the time being.

>>279736675
>>279736710
It's obvious the writer is struggling to keep him relevant, this even extends to Fern, she's done very little since the Mage exams expect be part of the SOL/travelling chapters. I mean there is an entire arc with both of them absent and then all she's really done in the current arc is snipe that priest lady (under Frieren's instruction).
Ubel is more relevant now.

>>279736675
I stopped reading somewhere around the point where there's a flashback to when the hero party were fighting a dragon in a city, but I can't really remember anything story relevant after El Dorado/that one time travel arc which may have been before or after El Dorado and I don't quite remember. I just remember getting bored with where the series was going and didn't want to keep up anymore so I'm also curious where they're at now

Elves are an allegory for White people

I'm a goblin and I WILL fuck an elf.

I love this autistic volcel

>>279737079
Post pictures of elves getting fucked by you..

>>279737093
very soon brother

>>279736837
Ubel being more relevant now is a positive because I always liked her, but I just saw the release date of the latest chapter after someone mentioned there was another hiatus and yeah… I think I will just forget about the series until there is announcement that it’s ending soon (if there is an even such an announcement).

>>279737027
I also got filtered around the same arc/chapters kek. El Dorado was great, I remember not liking a couple of stuff here and there, but I really enjoyed it overall

>>279737085
>volcel
people just aren't into flatties

>>279701727 (OP)
Same reason pandas almost did. There's no elf porn in their world.

she killed millions

>>279737234
She killed millions of SPERM CELLS.

>>279736800
Mage weak to close quarters combat is a pretty old trope.

>>279737305
just this morning, from me.

>>279737127
Ubel is pretty fun in the recent arc, but yeah I wouldn't bother until they come back from hiatus at least
It feels like it's just reaching climax so maybe another 10 chapters at most

What are the chances we get more fanservice in the next season?
I want this kind of content. >>279737523

>>279737553
>What are the chances we get more fanservice in the next season?
100%
There will be multiple different Frieren and Fern bathing scenes just in the first few episodes

>>279737636
test

>>279737234
>she killed millions
Of human men's interest in human women. She should be held responsible. Collective corrective rape.

Right after Frieren says she's lost to 6 human mages they cut to Ubel, are they implying that Frieren would lose to Ubel?

>>279722149
Maybe elves are reverse pandas. They don't care enough in the wild but I bet if you put Frieren in a cage and told her she had to get pregnant to leave, she'd pragmatically ride you as hard as possible to get it done.

>>279701767
>No species evolves like that.
>says man on 4chan

>>279736710
>Stark still does nothing.
The author loves to wank off Frieren and Fern, but does nothing with Stark. Insanely stupid.

>>279733476
>Why did the OP make Serie look like the villain?

You literally posted an image that showcases how she's a bad person. Failing people out of spite and kneejerk reactions.
Or you could argue she is just incredibly retarded.

>>279737885
>>No species evolves like that.
Life is designed to spread and procreate.
Elves would never have even become a race and instantly died out if the thing with elves they're trying to peddle was true.
It's just bad writing.

Elves are clearly descended from the Goddess through magic, not procreation

>>279738009
Frieren calls out to her mother in her sleep

>>279738064
She was referring to Fern

>>279733476
>Why did the OP make Serie look like the villain
Because she kind of is, she's meant to be a minor antagonistic force for Frieren to overcome. That's her purpose really, to elevate Frieren.
She's an elf who is much older and has accumulated all this magical knowledge yet cannot achieve what Frieren can. Mainly because she's selfish, self centered and cannot see the bigger picture.

>>279738149
The entire world exists solely to serve as contrast to Frierens radiant beauty.

>>279738415
This desu

>>279706210
Even if you put two reasonably attractive elves and a couple of partially horny teenagers in a small cabin with nothing else to do over the winter, they don't breed.
Elfcels are doomed.

>>279701767
Any place that isn't the MENA region, India, or subsaharan Africa is already speedrunning the elven route at maximum speed. Species can and do evolve to have suicidally low fertility rates.

Is she right? Does great power come with great responsibility? How many lives could have been saved while Frieren was busy looking for a flower?

>>279706785
there's never been more white people, there's just a gorillion mode shitskins starving in 3rd world shitholes
the white man's burden...

>>279738583
The story tells you that both things are important, even if you have to save the world you should still make time to have fun and enjoy things too

>>279736811
Stronger than the demon king

I'm too selfish and lazy to have raise kids, but if you live hundreds of years, always young? Why not? You're not giving up much, you let them go and then you carry on with whatever, still in your long ass prime. As much of a commitment as raising a chicken for a human.

>>279738583
>meanwhile Fern:

>>279738672
I would love to raise kids but how am I supposed to get one, meanwhile Frieren has infinite opportunities but still can't bother to raise one, what a selfish bitch

>>279738612
Another case of retarded writing, it only works for Frieren since she has a long lifespan.

>>279738688
You do know people die if they don't eat, right?

>>279738729
>Do you want me to starve!?

>>279738729
they also die from over eating

>>279721374
There's not much depth to it, so just enjoy it like an average shonen series

I just read the future chapter of Frieren in my dream and I thought it was really cool how Frieren's see-through-clothing spell to detect hidden weapons came in handy at the ball, that was a neat callback

>>279738729
We are all dying day by day, some a bit faster, some a bit slower

>>279701727 (OP)
autism
also there is something wrong with males, at rare moment he meet other female he should act properly, like heat mechanism

>>279701852
>you get extremly long living mother-in-law
mystery solved

>>279736710
>Stark still does nothing.

He saved both Frieren and then Fern despite being poisoned. That's not "nothing."

>>279736710
>(Frieren jobs to a dude with a knife)

You mean "Frieren gets put in a mutual death situation by a elite Warrior with super speed taking advantage of the small space they were in."

>>279737027
>so I'm also curious where they're at now

The current arc involves the Empire (what remains of the Empire that ruled most of the continent in Flamme's time) and a plot to assassinate Serie (who is visiting as the representative of the Continental Magic Association), in turn exploring the Empire's culture, Flamme's legacy, and giving us major human antagonists for the first time.

>>279737939
>Failing people out of spite and kneejerk reactions.

She was right in all her evaluations though, Frieren herself says as much. The people she failed did not have the power or experience to survive the missions First Class Mages get sent on, or (in Frieren's case) had no interest in working for Serie or being part of an organization.

>>279738623
Never was this said. Frieren stated her party would never have won if they all had not been present to fight him.

>>279737636
Sounds great.

What's the evolutionary reason for elves being so fucking sexy?

>>279740337
Human men love to fuck exotic women in order to diversify the gene pool

>>279740337
>official art
based author

>>279740337
Because reasons.

>>279740337
Assuming a byproduct of a body that can live indefinitely is being an ideal, healthy body, that body would likely have a lot of features considered attractive.

How did this series get the best character designs? Like 1000 artists are working in the industry and this is the current peak. Its pretty remarkable.

>>279740337
>evolutionary
lol

elves are INTELLIGENTLY DESIGNED to make human cocks hard

Mogs the entire Frieren cast easily

>>279737085
Is this a play on zoltraak?

Why is Laufen the least popular female character in Frieren?

Gentlemen, Aura's belly button window

>>279740604
She doesn't really do much, I don't think she's the least popular anyway. She still gets fanarts from time to time.

>>279733738
>From what I've heard the females only get into the mood when the males fight each other
Can't they just bring a human into cage to fistfight a panda?

>>279740688
A panda can snap a man's leg in its jaws like a branch of bamboo.

>>279740995
And yet, it still can't get laid. What a fucking pussy lmao.

>>279740647
Why does a demon have a belly button?

>>279741090
Is there any reason to think they don't give live birth?

>>279741005
No longer the case these days it seems.

>Initially, the primary method of breeding giant pandas in captivity was by artificial insemination, as they seemed to lose their interest in mating once they were captured. This led some scientists to trying methods such as showing them videos of giant pandas mating and giving the males sildenafil (commonly known as Viagra). In the 2000s, researchers started having success with captive breeding programs, and they have now determined giant pandas have comparable breeding to some populations of the American black bear, a thriving bear species.

One difficulty is that female pandas are only fertile for a few days once a year. In a captive setting that means you have to figure out when that is and get the male with the female at that time, then they both have to have an interest despite the means of them coming together being very different from in the wild.

>>279728984
>You know lesbians can actually breed
In what universe are lesbians able to breed?

How come there aren't succubus demons seducing men to kill them?

>>279741371
Why isn't she fat like Fern?

>>279721842
>frieren's years of unwashed stink

>>279741383
Spends all the calories running.

Serie thinks elves should go extinct. She's a self-hating elf. Why? Because she 100% has spells to make elves horny, transform humans into elves or whatever other bullshit and she never uses it.

>But she's never shown to have that!
She's the fucking living grimoire, of course this bitch knows magic to help repopulate the elves

>>279701727 (OP)
sauce

>>279718763
aura still hanging on despite being dead

>>279718763
Serie is better than Ubel that’s for sure.

>>279718763
>10. Sein
>20. Methode
He'll never meet his MILF, will he?

#justiceforaura

>>279720123
>falling birthrates aren't the fault of dysfunctional or sabotaged social mechanisms, or unstable environments, or lack of resources
>no, it's all because everyone is swiping left on their dating apps and frolicking about
I hope you realize how deeply moronic your reductivist statement is. Birthrates aren't just a measurement of "number of babies". It is a key statistic in the propogation and continuation of a nation-state, as well as its overall social health. It's not just trailermaxxing and making future EBT recipients to make big number go up. Ideally, it's making people who will carry the notions and trappings of their country and national identity forward, with the implication that they'll continue working, paying taxes, making more babies, etc. Real life's complications are not at all comparable to Frieren's in-story explanations, which have already been listed. Jesus fucking Christ, anon. Get it together.

>>279743081
Got your justice right here, digger

Fern as usual being the good girl and wearing her hijab

>>279740167
Serie content seems interesting but from what others have said, sounds like fern and stark are getting shafted

>>279745581
Serie is not really in it that much, grand total of 4 chapters so far. You see more of Ubel/Land and a bunch of newly introduced characters.
Fern and Stark are in most of them, it was the two previous arcs (Golden Lands and Goddess Monument) where Fern and Stark were absent for probably 2/3 of it

I can no longer visualize a new chapter...

>>279745793
>more ubel
Maybe it's just me but I never really got the appeal of her. Seems like the author wanking her character a lot, spending that much time on a side character when the main cast could be getting development instead

>>279746446
>Seems like the author wanking her character a lot
There is an entire chapter dedicated to Ubel wank

>>279746598
imagine the OST

>go through the series
>frieren is an emotionally dull autist who doesn't really express emotion and just kind of stares bluntly and talks softly (most of the time)
>an interesting character quirk, cool

>fern is the same
>well okay sure she was raised by frieren largely so that makes sense

>basically every other mage and most characters introduced from mage exam onwards act like this too
>...

>>279747100
You're getting there

>>279747348
But why are most characters in the show, not even just their party, like this
It annoys me because it feels like everyone has the same personality

>>279736837
They are both flat (only in a narrative sense, in Fern's case...) characters.
It seems as if the viewer already knows everything about them.

>>279747445
because that's how people are

>>279738534
Oh God, you're right. That actually did happen.

>>279749511
I think the worst part about the mage exam was seeing all these other, more interesting mages, but still having to follow Fern and Frieren.

>>279701727 (OP)
what would happen if I get to meet Frieren in person (i'm a fan of her show)

>>279750290
The closest you're gonna get is her VA cosplaying Frieren

>>279701727 (OP)
Did Lawine and Kanne sex each other yet?

>>279750820
Yeah, with me

>>279741211
Typically seduction is not needed, even an average demon is stronger and faster than most humans.

>>279701727 (OP)
Golem magic is too op.

>>279741904
>She's the fucking living grimoire, of course this bitch knows magic to help repopulate the elves

She knows most of the spells that have ever been made, but there's no indication spells like the ones you mentioned have ever been made.

>>279714995
(((replacement level)))

>>279750820
no, Lawine got with Richter after he tried to kill her and told her "no"

>>279747445
Keeping control of your emotions is necessary for better mana control, hence most mages (and warriors who also rely on mana control) are somewhat stoic a lot of the time.

Still, I don't think most characters are that similar. Methode, Wirbel, Ubel, Land, Lawine, etc. all have distinct aspects to them.

>>279747100
Don't force yourself and drop this. There are dozens of manga on Shounen Jump that you might enjoy

>>279701767
Sexually active elves were decimated by a deadly STD

>>279751956
But does she know Jubelade?

>>279750820
Lawine is made for ******** with middle aged men.

>>279701727 (OP)
They watched anime instead

>>279703124
>>279701874
they can't reproduce with each other

>>279752412
>frierens face when

>>279750820
give it time

>Part 2 Blu ray finally up for Pre order
I've been waiting for this

>>279701754
How did they flourish in the first place if they care so little about sex?
They should've gone extinct long ago

>>279754044
I'm glad but why is it almost double the price of part 1 despite having four fewer episodes? Was part 1 more expensive when it first released?

What did she mean by this?

>>279755646
fat nose

>>279754259
Are you looking at the limited edition?

Lawine should fuck Kanne. Stark should fuck fern. Methode should fuck-

>>279758666
Nope, that's $219.98. The normal version is $69.98. On the other hand, part 1 (which has 16 episodes while part 2 has 12) is only $34.99.

>>279710627
Why would they be humanoid in appearance and have tits and genitals if they don't reproduce sexually?

>>279759129
Cause that's how anime elves are usually portrayed. Doesnt mean you have to make them reproduce normally

>>279758995
>Methode should fuck-
me.

>>279759154
I'm pretty sure that if elves in Frieren didn't reproduce sexually it would have come up by now. When it comes to biology the only thing that seems to distinguish them is their long lifem hence elves being grouped with dwarves and humans as all being part of "humanity" and natural creatures as opposed to the supernatural, mana-composed monsters.

>>279759647
Yeah true. Honestly who knows really

>>279755646
Serie was ecstatic that for the first time in who knows how long someone was dumb enough to attack her.

>>279721768
You're right it's vtterly PROVSTIAN

>>279711643
Amish aren't having a problem. The late stage capitalism loneliness epidemic doesn't pertain to their head space. The future is Mennonite. Any other society just keeps importing thirdies to make up the gap.