Was there any way L could have won after Rem was introduced into the story?

>>279702251 (OP)
i wonder how an l-ryuk interaction would've worked
they never did in canon

>>279702251 (OP)
Depends on what you mean by winning
>putting Light and Misa in jail
Easily, just don't put Watari in the same building. Hell, that was stupid of him.
>not die AND put Light and Misa in jail
Strike a deal with Rem maybe? Or better yet, never put Misa in a position where a God of Death can free her by killing a few people (same for Light).

>>279702251 (OP)
Logically L should have won the moment he and Watari died immediately after announcing he was going to test Light's made up rule.

>>279702251 (OP)
Make a deal with Rem and protect Misa.
In the live action series Rem burned her notebook before she died because she didn't want Light to have it.

>>279702251 (OP)
He could have won before Rem was introduced. All L had to do was ask his CIA buddies to abduct Light the minute he suspected Light of being Kira. Light was literally his only real suspect, so might as well just in case, and once the Kira killings stop without Light having had the chance to set up a second Kira, he'd be fucked. But L was too obsessed with "winning" in his own dumb detective way, he treated Kira as a puzzle to solve and not as a threat to eliminate no matter what it takes.
Light should have been doomed the moment he thought it was a good idea to intentionally allow L to know that Kira has access to police information, it made it inevitable that the suspect pool would narrow him down.

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>>279703697
L didn't know Rem cared about Misa and had no way of knowing testing the death note and sentencing her to death would cause Rem to kill him

>>279703232
Watari actually survives in the Death Note TV drama, so does Mikami and the Yotsuba group.

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>>279703675
but L won that's why some have issues because they have cero understanding capabilities or memory.
>Be L.
>Knows Light is Kira
>Pretends to be friend
>Is aware light is gonna betray him soon
>Still pretend to be friends so light won't suspect anything and lower his guard.
>Have a self delete button of the investigation to lead light into lowering his guard more.
>Leave in a more secluded place a computer with the data
>Leave a timer on the computer
>Once timer is over it will send the data to his succesors.
>The data includes the information the original L died and all the info up to the point even the 8% probability yagami light is kira.
>Leave instructions to find out how light did everything.
done he won, which is what happened in manga and anime.

>>279702251 (OP)
the live action had L win by taking advantage of the no duplicity rule. He wrote his own name in the death note and gave himself a 2 week lifespan and baited Light to write his name to prove he's Kira.

It's a self sacrificing move which a narcissist are known to be unable to picture or understand, leading to Light's downfall.

>>279703977
L was suspecting the fake rule light put in the note the 13 days tule, testing if it was true would sentence light and misa to death which light manipulated to save his ass and told rem about that.

>>279706540
Actually L didn't give them his data. He just left them a message saying "lol i'm dead." Near and Mello still had to find out about the Death Note and Light on their own.

>>279706959
not really otherwise near wouldn't have called light directly or said in his monologue "this 2nd L or yagami light is kira but i need to find the proof of it".
He needed to find the cooperators first to find the real death note which he wouldn't know if L didn't told them.

>>279702251 (OP)
Only way would be striking a deal with Rem by promising Misa's safety. You can have him check every recording of Light and Misa again to see if Rem shows up now for him to discover their relation.

>>279702251 (OP)
Even without Rem, L could never win by his own standards because he'd never accept anything short of a 100% perfect victory.
Even if L had managed to pull of Near's gambit with the warehouse and caught Light declaring that he is God and talking to Mikami who's holding the notebook like they're allies, L would just say
>Hmmm... The probability of Light being Kira has gone up to 99.98%... I'd better keep observing him just to be sure.

>>279707247
Near didn't contact Light directly. He contacted the new L, but he didn't know Light Yagami or that he was L. Watari deleted ALL the data L had gathered about the Kira case before dying. Near only deduces the existence of the Death Note through police reports of Higuchi's arrest.

>>279702251 (OP)
>If I die at any time arrest light and misa and see if the deaths continue
If my memory isn't fucked I think that would work

>>279702251 (OP)
His biggest mistakes were ever showing his face, and having an irrational fixation about involving Light in the investigation and letting him run around freely. Cross out those and Light is cooked, because he was actually a short-sighted fool with a god complex instead of a genius.

At any point he could've saved his own life by telling Light he has a dead man's switch exposing Light as Kira to the public. Even without definitive 100% proof Light would've been cooked. Instead, the immoral autist actually had a dead man's switch destroying everything he knew.

Honestly, the live action fixed the mistake of killing L in the anime.
That L already wrote his name into the Death Note for a later date, faked his heart attack, and lured Kira into a trap.

>>279702251 (OP)
This was what sealed his doom.