>Harukaze Mound Debut
>Syd Craft ended
>Otr got out of training hell
>Taiki is getting NTR
>KGB released an ugly cover
>Nice Prison is funny once again
>Ruri is still on hiatus

>>279709482 (OP)
>Himaten Won
>Issho is not top 10. Akane fans have no taste
>Kill Blue did it again! (CP is wasted on this man)
>Gakuro has children.

>>279709482 (OP)
>15. RaiRaiRai #5

>>279709482 (OP)
>You'd think Kiyoshi is the one carrying these 2 series...
>Sakamoto cant tunnel effect out of the latest chapter
>Ichi the stagnant
>Elbaf? More like Elbarf
Help me write the rest

>>279709838
>promotion for 10-15k existers
>kiyoshi front and center
I enjoy shinobi but DAMN

>>279709806
Tell me if the right chick is still jobbing.
(I wont tell you which opinion im favourinh)

>>279709861
Jobber gonna job...

>>279709838
I don't keep up with this stuff too seriously, is Ichi really declining with volume 3? What happpened? Is it mostly weekly readers not wanting to support the series as much or were volume readers unimpressed with volume 2?

>>279710027
Volume 2 was really bad so it's not a shock

>>279709838
>Kagurabachi? got an anime announcement

>>279709985
Just the way i like it. T.ryonafag
>>279710027
Who knows bud? The cross promotion doesnt seem to do anything to it.

>>279709838
>Kagurabachi reviving characters to stop the decline
>Kill blue? What is that
>Nice prison? more like Nice cushion

>>279710083
Okay this one is funny

>>279710027
It's basically stagnant already. Happens a lot with veterans since hype lasts for a couple of volumes before the drop.
This hurt our resident schizo A LOT and has been shitting up the threads hard since.

>>279710085
the revival was clearly planned but I'm sure the editors are combing through the contents of the arc trying to pinpoint where it faltered.

>>279710151
They revived Uruha the moment it started declining hard, it might not be a coincidence

Why is everyone assuming he’s not the one designing the covers? Didn’t he show the cover design process on twitter last time?

>>279710151
>>279710171
If you are going to samefag, at least make sure the post you replied to was in any way relevant to the post you made.

>>279710174
It's just a copium mechanism because the cover is legit ass

>>279710203
Boogeymanbachi

>>279710174
Because the guy in charge of designing his covers tends to retweet them.

>>279710260
What’s the twitter handle?

All Three, Himaten, Shinobi and Kiyoshi are called the "leaders of the next generation", they are never gonna get axed now that they form a legit trio.
Also, look at the TOC from last week, they are all three paired

>>279710171
But like, that was gonna happen anyway. How much longer do you think they were going to delay the clearly telegraphed revival?

The cover design excuse has always been pure cope. Its nothing like designing a jump magazine cover when you have to juggle other things to promote.

>>279710027
Shiro pitybux ran out already so it's running on Nishi's fame alone right now thanks to the collab ads

These are the animation studios for the next anime project of JUMP

>failed to be a romcom manga
>failed to be a mystery manga
>failed to come up with any likable characters, the girls immediately resorted to do lewd moments
now that it has ended, it's insane how completely mediocre this manga is from start to finish.

>>279710294
And it's jobbing compared to the rest so it's just not being Iruma.

>>279710323
it just doesn't have the charm of early iruma, sadly.
art is great though.

>>279710306
"Himaten killer" brah

>>279710212
If he's so insistent on sticking to his color scheme I wonder why Takeru didn't just make Iori's school uniform grey or some variation of black and red. A red blazer would really pop on a cover. Especially in the last cover she kind of melted into the background.

Shoseki 15/06
#8 Sakamoto Days
#18 Ichi the Witch
#47 Akanebanashi
#123 Shinobigoto
#164 Himaten
#197 Kill Blue

Everything went up, Ichi was speedblitzed by Phantom Busters.

>>279710370
he's probably color blind at this point or just an edgy autist who loves black so much.

>>279710277
My glorious trio

>>279710422
>the moment you get three series that actually sell ok they are all dying
Let's assume harukaze mount is a hit (in that it at least sells 20k) who's dying?

>>279710436
Kiyoshi, unless Kill Blue is axed first after losing to Shinobi.

I feel that Saito picked a baseball manga at the right time.

>>279710505
The sports series that won the contest was supposedly going to be serialized and get an Ohtani rec for volume 1.
I wonder what happened to that.

>>279710277
I'm fine with Kiyoshi staying only if new series do worse.

Okay, now I'm thinking Sakamoto might end first.

>>279710632
>BB introduced NTR potential
Don't worry, Suzuki will think up a similar retardation.

the himaten doujin is translated already

>Kagurabachi cover drop getting more attention than a new debut and series ending
Why is this place so obsessed with this manga that literally nothing else generates a fraction of discussion whatsoever.

>>279709482 (OP)
>Otr got out of training hell
>hell
>literally one chapter
TikTok brain

>>279711075
It's popular. So the people that like it want to talk about it and the people that hate it want to dunk on it. There are just fewer people that care about Syd and Harukaze Mound.

>>279709838
Let's say you were the Editor in Chief of Weekly Shonen Jump, which one of these three series would you axe? : Shinobi Undercover, Hima-ten!, and Ultimate Exorcist Kiyoshi

Here are some data of their respective sales:

>Shinobi Undercover #1 (10,566) - 9 Days
>Shinobi Undercover #2 (12,092) - 6 Days
>Shinobi Undercover #3 (11,823) - 5 Days

>Hima-ten! #1 (11,287) - 10 Days
>Hima-ten! #2 (11,561) - 9 Days
>Hima-ten! #3 (13,320) - 10 Days
>Hima-ten! #4 (11,378) - 5 Days

>Ultimate Exorcist Kiyoshi 1 — 4,839 / 8,937 (Total)
>Ultimate Exorcist Kiyoshi 2 — 2,241 / 10,953 (Total)
>Ultimate Exorcist Kiyoshi 3 — 5,629 / 10,595 (Total)

>>279711234
As the Editor-in-Chief of Weekly Shonen Jump, I would axe Ultimate Exorcist Kiyoshi.

Here's my reasoning:

While all three series have relatively low sales figures for Shonen Jump standards, Kiyoshi shows the weakest performance and most concerning trends.

Lowest Initial Sales: The first volume of Kiyoshi sold 4,839 in its initial period, which is significantly lower than the starting sales of both "Shinobi Undercover" (10,566) and "Hima-ten!" (11,287).
Declining Initial Sales (Volume 2): Even more concerning is the drop in initial sales for Kiyoshi Volume 2 (2,241). This suggests that even the initial curiosity from readers quickly waned, indicating a lack of strong engagement from early adopters.
Weak Overall Performance: While the "Total" sales figures for Kiyoshi (meaning sales accumulated over a longer period) eventually reach similar levels to the initial sales of the other two series, this indicates a very slow burn and a lack of immediate impact. For a weekly serialization, immediate engagement and strong initial sales are crucial.
"Shinobi Undercover" and "Hima-ten!" show more promise: Both "Shinobi Undercover" and "Hima-ten!" consistently sell over 10,000 units in their initial reporting periods, and in fewer days than Kiyoshi takes to hit its total. This suggests a faster pace of sales and potentially more reader interest. While their growth isn't explosive, they are maintaining a base and selling faster.
In the highly competitive environment of Weekly Shonen Jump, series need to demonstrate strong initial traction and the potential for growth. Kiyoshi fails to do this, showing consistently weak performance from the outset and a concerning decline in its second volume's initial sales. This suggests it's struggling to find an audience, and continuing it would likely be a drain on resources that could be better allocated to developing more promising titles.

>pulling chatgpt just for that shite

>>279711075
It’s a more realistic baseball manga but with some silly pseudo-science. Also, for any sports manga, it lives and dies on how liked the characters are and we’re just in the 1st chapter with 3 characters

>>279711282
It's Gemini doe

>>279711234
If I were Editor in Chief of Weekly Shonen Jump and had to axe one of these three series based solely on volume sales data, the clear candidate would be: Ultimate Exorcist Kiyoshi

Here's why:
>Sales are significantly lower than the other two. Even when including extended totals (first week + later weeks), its volumes peak around 10,000–11,000 total.
>The first week sales are especially weak: 4,839 (vol 1), 2,241 (vol 2), and 5,629 (vol 3), indicating limited initial interest and low momentum.
>There's no consistent upward trend—vol. 2 drops in first-week numbers despite the total slightly improving, and vol. 3 barely recovers in its first-week figures.
>Even after additional weeks, the total sales max out around 10–11k, which still lags behind its competitors' initial week sales.

Compare with the others:
Shinobi Undercover
>Volumes sell between 10.5k–12k in less than 10 days.
>A little more volatile, but overall: Holding steady in the 11k–12k range in the first week
>Slight dip from vol. 2 to 3, but nothing alarming
>Still showing healthy sales per day (vol. 3: 11,823 in 5 days ~2,365/day)
It’s not a breakout hit, but it’s solid and consistent, which is usually enough to survive at this stage.

Hima-ten!
>Has the strongest single-volume performance (vol. 3 with 13,320 in 10 days).
>Averaging better than the others and seems to have at least some staying power.
>At first glance, vol. 4 seems like a dip—but when we break it down:
>Vol. 3: 13,320 in 10 days ~1,332 copies/day
>Vol. 4: 11,378 in 5 days ~2,275 copies/day
>This is actually a strong jump in daily sales velocity, showing:
>Rising reader engagement
>Momentum that's still building
So rather than declining, Hima-ten! is heating up.

Conclusion:
If I could only cut one, it would be Ultimate Exorcist Kiyoshi, due to consistently low sales and weak initial demand. Shinobi Undercover and Hima-ten! still show potential and are worth giving more time to build an audience.

>>279711282
they use it to cover up their esl

MOST VIEWED 1ST CHAPTER ON JUMP PLUS

Kagurabachi (698.397)
Ichi the Witch (391.539)
Shinobi Undercover (276.773)
Kill Blue (227.195)
Nue's Exorcist (219.615)
Otr of the Flame (199.134)
Embers (175.675)
Ultimate Exorcist Kiyoshi (165.324)
Hima-ten! (151.957)
Star of Beethoven (140.773)

Issue #28 views
Kill Blue - 36,369
Ichi The Witch - 179,416
Kagurabachi - 248,842
Otr of the Flame - 233,522
Nue's Exorcist - 35,652
Ultimate Exorcist Kiyoshi - 63,322
Shinobi Undercover - 60,484
Hima-Ten - 89,777
Embers - 65,362

Here's the percentage drop for each series from their first chapter views to their latest views in Weekly Shonen Jump Issue #28:

| **Series** | **First Chapter Views** | **Issue #28 Views** | **Drop** | **% Drop** |
| ----------------------------- | ----------------------- | ------------------- | ----------- | ------------------ |
| **Kagurabachi** | 698,397 | 248,842 | 449,555 | **64.36%** |
| **Ichi the Witch** | 391,539 | 179,416 | 212,123 | **54.18%** |
| **Shinobi Undercover** | 276,773 | 60,484 | 216,289 | **78.14%** |
| **Kill Blue** | 227,195 | 36,369 | 190,826 | **83.99%** |
| **Nue's Exorcist** | 219,615 | 35,652 | 183,963 | **83.76%** |
| **Otr of the Flame** | 199,134 | 233,522 | **+34,388** | **–17.27%** (gain) |
| **Embers** | 175,675 | 65,362 | 110,313 | **62.79%** |
| **Ultimate Exorcist Kiyoshi** | 165,324 | 63,322 | 102,002 | **61.72%** |
| **Hima-Ten** | 151,957 | 89,777 | 62,180 | **40.91%** |

Notes:
- Otr of the Flame is the only series that actually gained readers compared to its first chapter.
- The series with the steepest drop is Kill Blue (almost 84%).
- Hima-Ten has one of the lowest percentage drops, meaning it retained the most readers relative to its launch.

>>279711380
A grammatically correct version of your sentence would be:
>"They use it to cover up their lack of English proficiency."

If you want to keep it casual while still sounding natural, you could say:
>"They use it to hide the fact that English isn't their first language."

Or more directly (though slightly informal):
>"They use it to cover up their ESL background."

Nuerats are losing today even harder than usual.

>>279710632
How many chapters left to finish?

>>279711075
>we made fun of himaten swimsuit cover
>we made fun of embers cover and chapter
>we made fun of kiyoshi, ichi and akane's toc shill
>we made fun of kawaguchi
>we made fun of tunnel effect
We will continue to poke fun at anything and everything in the future, and kgb is no exception.
Calm down, faggot.

Happy Pride Month my fellow Kiyoshi CHADS

>>279711550

>>279710171
Pre ch60
>not a single hint at Samura having a daughter despite multiple characters were away of her
>Samura is reading porn magazines, chilling on the market, talking to friends, overall typical independent single male portrayal
>focus on him being hypocrite fag eaten by guilt
>hard boner for killing all the bearers cause of what they've done in the past, heavily implying they all committed some atrocities
>Readers massively went amok about Japan and Bearers being the bad guys all along
>Uruha is fucking dead

Post-ch60
>Samura had the fucking wife and daughter and is a beta in his family
>focus on him being deadbeat dad and husband
>japan did nothing wrong and all bearers except for Saint are actually dinduniffing and Samura doesnt hold the grudge
>Uruha is actually alive
>Japan and bearers being the good guys was reiterated multiple times as if Takeru was afraid readers didn't get the point

Between these two events:
>Somehow Tobimune broke the seal
>Both Uruha and Kamunabi were made into retards to make the plot happen
>Contract mother child concept introduced for no other purpose other than to create the reason for Samura's hidden motivation

There is serious discrepancy between pre ch60 and post ch60 chapters with the very wonky and sloppy switch between two.
This makes me think Hokazono and/or editors have pussied out with making Samura fulblown villain and painting Japan and wileders as very bad people.
To correct that Iori was introduced and Samura was given a new motivation to shift his status into more sympathetic route.
That's why this arc felt so rough. It was hard changed and rewritten on the move.

>>279711546
(Cont) And if harukaze had kept the female coach, i would have made fun of it too.

>>279710306
22i downfall is him wanting to be people pleaser too much instead of sticking to his own vision and the ending of this slop perfectly encapsulated all of that.
Try to pander to everybody but just ended up pleasing nobody.

>>279711575
Is this literally the first harem ending of WSJ manga?

>>279711575
Is it possible that this "harem ending" is a result of the axe and is not the ending he had in mind?

>>279711570
>Somehow Tobimune broke the seal
>Contract mother child concept introduced for no other purpose other than to create the reason for Samura's hidden motivation
Anon, genuinely what the fuck are you talking about

>>279711147
>one chapter
The training arc has been going for 3 chapters and the worse part is that it was absolutely boring to follow.

>>279711546
don't forget that we made fun (and still make fun of) nue and gakuro for being a cuck

>>279711619
That too.

>>279711618
>The training arc has been going for 3 chapters
I don't think you know what "training" means

>>279711550
stop bringing xitter shit into this thread

Read her manga.

Why did no one criticize Kiyoshi's training arc? It had 4 chapters:
024. Let's Go to the Hot Spring
025. Let's Play Precept Power Ping-Pong
026. A Hot Spring Promise
027. Kiyoshi and Sakaki's Training Time

If you want to include the Grand Cross test arc as part of "training", it had 8 chapters:
010. Let's go Bowling
011. The Exorcist Sosuke
012. The GC Test
013. Battling in Memento Forest
014. The Ferocious Beast of Memento Forest
015. The Final Test
016. GC Material
017. Grand Cross

So Kiyoshi had a total of 12 chapters wasted on training. And yet we still don't have a clear picture of Kiyoshi's power system.

Sakamotofags... Ichibros... Why didn't they use us as the example??

>>279711699
You need to read it in order to criticize it. No one is reading this garbage.

Our

Himacuck going all out with kiyoshi and chatgpt spam

>>279711699
People have been saying kiyoshit should've been axed since forever

>>279711731
lol fair
also there was one kiyoshifag from previous thread who claimed "kiyoshi has the best battle choreography", but he ran away when asked for proof

>>279711570
Anon you are straight up retarded. The guilt the swordbearers share is about how they refused to kill sword saint out of a selfish desire to continue living despite the risk it entailed.

Basically all of the kerfluffle about 'Japan bad' came from the West, it's a bog standard 'getting nuked sucked' story that Japanese people understandably love so much.

>>279711699
Kiyoshi's training arc was fun and cute. Kiyshi has always flip-flopped between being a more comedic series and a more serious story and enough people prefer when Kiyoshi is focused on character interactions. The training arc was good for people that valued the comedy like me.

>>279711606
It's a literal repost by the schizo, anon

>>279711768

>>279711634
Nah don't even try to play semantics, they moment they decided to go to that guy in the wood is already part of the training arc.
Same shit as when Tanjiro went to Urokodaki's, except it was done better in KnY and actually have a good climax to it.
Why does Otr have to cut the wood again? Oh nevermind nobody cares.

>>279711759
he thought this boring page spread is good kek

>>279711768
>makes himacucks seethe to no end
I hope Kiyoshi lives as long as possible

>>279711798
when we have this sakamoto spread

>>279711793
I miss when Chihiro looked like this

It's nice they did a KGB special father's day thing.

>>279711926
3 of the worst fathers in Fiction, geuinely impressive hokazono

>>279711926
Was this always a daddy issues manga

Baseball being emergency button is funny when basketball (slamdunk) is the most popular wsj spokon ever. Heck, no baseball manga is as popular as volley (haikyu) or even soccer (capt tsubasa).

>>279711926
Samura and Iori look best. Always felt like that was an unflattering image of Kunishige and I can't get over Hakuri's pose it looks so uncomfortable.

>>279711796
>Nah don't even try to play semantics, they moment they decided to go to that guy in the wood is already part of the training arc.

You're retarded, no training took place in Chapter 3. Otr traveled to a new location and started a fight with someone. Basically the same as what happaned in the latest chapter. Chapter 4, the fight continues and concludes with some characterization for Otr and Sixten. In the last three pages they talk about the magic system. Chapter 5 is when the training happens.

>>279711955
baseball having no popular manga is the reason authors are trying to start with it
there was no big volley manga before haikyu

>>279711961
I think the training arc would probably read fine in the volume release. Main problem is that it's just kind of boring but it isn't outright bad either. I think it can survive.

>>279711975
biggest retard of the thread award goes to you

>>279711955
True, but baseball the sport has become even stronger than ever in Japan

>>279710380
>Shoseki 15/06
>#8 Sakamoto Days
>#18 Ichi the Witch
>#47 Akanebanashi
>#123 Shinobigoto
>#164 Himaten
>#197 Kill Blue

for comparison, exactly one month ago:

Shoseki Top 500 (May 15)
9. Blue Box #20
17. Kagurabachi #7
63. The Elusive Samurai #20
221. Me & Roboco #22
259. Astro Royale #5 (AXED)
290. Ultimate Exorcist Kiyoshi #3 (COVER + LCP + HIGH TOC)
326. Super Psychic Policeman Chojo #5 (AXED)

Saito, just admit it. You were wrong. Give the cover, LCP, and high TOC to Shinobi already.

>>279711961
This is why otr will get axed

>>279712009
Let's see if Shinobi and Himaten are going to stay for the next two days.

Shoseki 5/16
20. Blue Box #20
25. Kagurabachi #7
95. The Elusive Samurai #20
297. Astro Royale #5
349. Me & Roboco #22
390. Super Psychic Policeman Chojo #5
440. Ultimate Exorcist Kiyoshi #3

Shoseki 5/17
6. Blue Box #20
13. Kagurabachi #7
57. The Elusive Samurai #20
200. Me & Roboco #22
261. Astro Royale #5
429. Ultimate Exorcist Kiyoshi #3
N/A. Super Psychic Policeman Chojo #5

>>279711147
>TikTok brain
its why battle shonen are dying out, it took wsj quite a while to find ichi the witch after a few axed fantasy series and even with ichi there were people bitching about it not moving fast enough

>>279711987
You are an absolutely retarded dipshit.
If haikyuu author never started volley using your retarded faggot logic we would never have gotten haikyuu.
Now kill yourself.

>>279712009
Take your Taiwanese co-sign with grace

Harukaze editor
>Act Age
,>Witch Watch
>Chojo
,>Aliens Area
>Ole Golazo
>Akanebanashi
,>Guardian of the Witch
,>Burn the Witch
,>Phantom Seer
>Himaten
>Kyakuto Necromance

>>279712033
Yet Ruri was an instant hit and its the most nothing happens series

>>279711699
Everyone wanted Kiyoshi to be axed though

>>279712174
No we didn't.

Chapter 1 otr, before training : the mc defeat the sorcerer CAPTAIN of the ice kingdom

Chapter 7 otr, after training : now the mc is gonna fight some fodders goons of ice kingdom

>>279712174
There's that one Kiyoshifag here who goes
>"Nuh uh! Usui wants to say for another year and it just gets a cover and high TOC it means it's popular!"

See? Here he is >>279712193

AIanon, now go and calculate Kiyoshi's chances of staying based on jajanken data.

>battle shonen dying
>romcom and SoL thriving
maybe the people want more realistic manga with less fantasy
you can grudgepost this if Otr lives, but it will sell less than Red Hood, he dipped more into fantasy when its an already oversaturated setting

>>279712198
>Chapter 1 otr, before training : the mc defeat the sorcerer CAPTAIN

>Chapter 7 otr, fight some fodders

"Squad Captain"
Jesus, people here are stupid

>>279711699
Powersystem is people using cool attacks they invented off-screen. If you paid attention, you know that Kiyoshi uses different hands for attack and defence while other characters have same tattoo on both hands.

>>279712243
its time for a new sci fi battle shonen

>>279711926
haven't read kgb since the auction arc ended, is iori supposed to be the self-insert for women who want to fuck chihiro?

>>279712174
Kill yourself himacuck

>>279712256
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jpf9GRm0N4g

>>279712240
Given all the factors you've laid out — ToC rankings, poor sales performance despite editorial push, and narrative positioning — here's a breakdown of how I’d approach this as Editor in Chief of Weekly Shonen Jump

1. Sales vs. Editorial Push
>Kiyoshi had strong editorial support: cover, color pages, high ToC placements.
>Yet, its volume sales are weak and stagnating (~10k per volume over 3 releases).
>This suggests there's little correlation between its placement and reader market interest.
>A series that can’t grow despite this push is a red flag for long-term serialization.

2. ToC Rankings – Possibly Inflated
>Kiyoshi has suspiciously high rankings for a low-selling series.
>This often happens when editorial is pushing to "rescue" a title.
>But it also may reflect a very small but enthusiastic fanbase writing in, rather than broader appeal.

3. Narrative Position – The Endgame
>Only Asuta Roth remains as the final villain, and it’s building up to a 1v1 showdown.
>Structurally, this feels like a natural climax.
>It’s hard to reboot or extend a story when the big bad is about to fall unless there’s a radical shift (which would be narratively risky).

Editorial Decision – Cut or Continue?
If I were EIC, my decision would hinge on this:
Let it End Naturally
>Kiyoshi isn’t selling.
>It’s not picking up more fans despite being prominently featured.
>The story is wrapping up.
>Letting it go out with a complete arc — and a proper ending — is more respectful than padding it with a forced second arc that might get axed mid-way.
>Ending here could preserve fan goodwill and maybe boost posthumous volume sales if the final arc is satisfying.

What Would Justify Continuing?
Only if:
>Volume 4 showed a sudden spike in sales (e.g. 20k+).
>There’s clear evidence of international buzz (e.g. strong MangaPlus views, fan art).
>The author has a compelling next arc idea and pitches it well.

But as of now, with all available evidence:
I’d let Kiyoshi conclude with dignity

Kiyoshi sisters...

>>279712243
Start as SoL for 50 chapters.
Turn into battle that after that.

Easy

>>279712301
It's for girls with daddy issues, nothing about fucking Chihiro.
She mostly exists for Samura too.

>>279712301
Ehh maybe? Right now she and Chihiro kind of have bigger things to worry about so their personal interactions have been pretty limited. I get why other people can see it but I don't personally see it. Iori is a nice character otherwise.

Ichibros...

>>279712420
akamatsu...

I feel bad for Kiyoshi fans, they keep getting BTFO'd by facts and logic

>>279712243
>he dipped more into fantasy when its an already oversaturated setting
Fantasy with original worlds is probably the most endangered setting thanks to isekai
If Kawaguchi fails, it's because he's a shit writer, not because fantasy is oversaturated

>>279712448
>>279712403
What does this mean? Card game?

>>279712301
She is just a prop to make her father (the mc of the arc) more sympathetic. Now she is not needed for the story anymore and basically disappeared.

>>279711732
AVENGERS

>>279712289
I can't remember the last time sci-fi was a hit but I'm also really tired. It's just not as popular as fantasy and I think it suffers more now than it did in the past when the settings felt more distance and thus, more plausible and viable.

>>279712472
>and basically disappeared.
Characters don't need to be constantly in the series to be relevant.
Hakuri was missing for over two volumes.

>>279712448
Wouldn't this make Desscaras kind of based for fucking men of her own race?

>>279710174
the layout kinda sucks, that part is usually done by his editor and shueisha staff.

>>279712470
Wouldn't YOU like to know...

>>279712301
She is char of this arc
Even less than the char actually
Char was MC's reason to fight for
Iori is secondary character's reason to fight for

>>279712497
Fuck off, lol.
>mentioning Hakuri of all people.

>>279712521
>lol
You fuck off.

>>279712510
>Picrel is the character Chihiro casually murdered not even looking at
>Now he is fumbling and letting villains escape left and right

Damn, year ago Chihiro was a good damn MC.

>>279712455
GG and Guardian of the witch were also fantasy and fucking died
Ichi being carried by the author name is probably the only way to have proper fantasy in jump that isnt exorcismslop

>>279712545
Hakuri is a bad influence

>>279712545
Editor told him to tone it down

>>279712472
>>279712512
She's also needed for Chihiro though, he's obviously projecting his own daddy issues onto her. If it was just about Samura then instead of Iori, his daughter, they could have replaced her with her mother, Inori, the wife, and made it a conflict about a former wife and husband who forgot each other. But if the arc was about Inori then Chihiro couldn't relate to her in the same way as he is with Iori.

Unlike Char though Iori doesn't have a useful sorcery or innate gift, Iori can swordfight but she refuses to kill. This doesn't leave her with many options to remain in the story long term which is why there are fans hoping she can contract Tobimune if her father dies, because an EB makes her strong enough to stick around. If Tobimune gets sniped or breaks then Iori training with the Masumi/Kamunabi is probably her only option, otherwise she probably won't remain in the story.

>>279712545
>and letting villains escape left and right
I mean, aside from trying to extract intel from Hiruhiko, he murders everyone he can.

>>279712577
But Hakuri is so bloodthirsty he doesn't even flinch at his family members being splattered on the ground, Chihiro just became a bitch for no reason as the story progressed.
>I-I gotta prove to him I'm going to hell too...!
Bro is developing backwards.

Post your WSJ waifu's result
https://smash-or-pass-ai--gorgonzolagary45665823.on.websim.com/

>>279712567
>GG and Guardian of the witch were also fantasy and fucking died
Okay? That doesn't mean fantasy is oversaturated when there's still countless isekai out there and fantasy writers largely stopped doing original worlds
GG and GOTW were simply flaming garbage
>Ichi being carried by the author name
Why wasn't Samurai 8 carried by the author name? You should realize author name is a cope

Etupirko is pure sex. I'm currently reading Otr purely for her.

Ichi is carried by people feeling sorry for Usazaki

>>279711567
Stop reposting your own xhitter

>>279712634
If Samurai 8 was serialized now it would live like Nue

>>279712706
Crepal... is that why you're not on Xitter?

>>279712711
>sold 20k after shill campaign and huge print
Yeah no, Jump would've cut their losses like they did to ASStro

>>279711768

>>279712614
He's just going against proper fighters now instead of mooks (who he still kills without remorse).
Noobhiro is a nepo baby smurfing against starving poor niggas with a nuke. He's barely any different than Noobhiko the other nepo baby.

>>279712736
Vol 1 sold 35k, thats enough to be the next pillar of jump now
even if we take declining into account that just means it will live like Kill Blue

>>279712614
>I-I gotta prove to him I'm going to hell too...!
This doesn't really make sense to me because it isn't consistent with his actions. To me it isn't about Chihiro's beliefs about his fate, it's about him being sad his dad is gone and being upset that Samura isn't willing to have a relationship with his daughter when she's right there and crying meanwhile Chihiro wishes he could have the opportunity to see his father again. He basically wants to beat Samura into being a good father and reuniting with Iori so he can live vicariously through them. And then I think it's set up for Chihiro's future development; he see's himself in Samura so if Samura can change then one day Chihiro can look past his goal of acquiring the blades and move on with his life.

But that isn't what is being overtly stated by the characters and if Takeru wants us to take Chihiro's words at face value then I agree it isn't great writing.

>>279712761
If a manga couldn't sell out their humongous first print it's getting axed, anon
S8, PS, Astro. All recent examples.

>>279712761
Right it sold more than I remembered but this decline is unacceptable for how much they printed, there's no timeline where it would've been a pillar
It gets axed under the same standards ASStro did

>>279712614
>>I-I gotta prove to him I'm going to hell too...!
>Bro is developing backwards.
You already tried this dude, exact same wording.

>>279712796
>>279712799
Samurai 8 was a whole different level of stupid, not only they printed a shitton they also thought it was a good idea to release Volume 1 and 2 together

>>279712792
>He basically wants to beat Samura into being a good father and reuniting with Iori so he can live vicariously through them
That is true.
>Chihiro can look past his goal of acquiring the blades and move on with his life.
Chihiro still doesn't want this.
All Chihiro wants to do right now is making Iori happy which involves Samura stopping his solitary war against everyone and everything.

>>279712792
Chihiro's motivations are all over the place, if you listen to fujos he is doing all of that only for Hakuri's sake.
I like your take but I also think the "going to hell" thing makes sense. Chihiro's actually been very touchy about the subject of his revenge since chapter one, he always gets snarky whenever someone implies he might need to stop. Samura so far is the only one who actively tried to stop him.
What I dislike the fact the he is so focused on Samura, he barely knows the guy and Samura is kind of a shit person that I don't want someone like Chihiro to look up to and want to prove something to.

>>279712792
Pretty sure you completely overlooked the protagonists of KGB being Buddhist, especially Samura.
>I'm going to Hell too
Is not about being "evil" or "good" in Buddhism. By their moral standards, killing a soul no matter the purpose is Hell-worthy. It's why Samura cut his eyes, and why he's spooking Chihiro with Hell if he doesn't put down his sword and walk out the conflict.
Everything Chihiro is doing right now to Samura is showing that he's gonna do whatever it takes to do the "right" thing. No matter if he's going to Hell according to Buddhist standards. Samura ironically is blind to this because he cut his eyes out of fear and never bothered to look at what's actually happening beyond his retarded spooky Hell-beliefs.

>>279712872
>he barely knows the guy and Samura is kind of a shit person that I don't want someone like Chihiro to look up to and want to prove something to.
It's related to it all being the war/swords fault, which makes it his dad's fault and in the end he really tries hard to cope with the fact his dad made WMDs that ended up doing a mini holocaust.

>>279712886
Samura is also taking on a sort of christ-figure role as he takes on his comrades sins by rebirthing them into a new chance at innocent life

>>279712872
>What I dislike the fact the he is so focused on Samura
This is another stuff a Westerner wouldn't get.
Chihiro's entire character is filial piety. His piety to his dad's life and works and dreams is what drives the story.
It's why he fanboys his dad's friends and wants to keep them out of harm's way because his dad was friends with them. That was literally why he didn't bat an eye and ran to save Uruha.
Now there's even a second layer to it because he saw himself in Iori and wants his hero (Samura) to be a proper dad like Kunishige instead of being a blind deadbeat nigga.

>>279712925
He believes he's a true martyr, but he's hurting everyone around him in the process and no one wants him to do it.
But he knows he's the only one who can due to suzaku.

>>279712009
Ach so, Ichi did get a sunday bump!

>>279712925
I forget the exact timeline but wasn't Uruha only dead for about 3 days before being resurrected

>>279712971
It's below Phantom Busters bro
I wouldn't say it got one

>>279712913
>It's related to it all being the war/swords fault, which makes it his dad's fault
I just kinda wish we got more different perspectives before starting with Samura's stuff. Uruha is blindly praising Kunishige just like everyone else has been doing in the story so far, it would be nice to get to know other sword bearers first and maybe get more grounded perspectives on the war. Chihiro should have a similar attitude towards other sword bearers as he does towards Samura but there is so much focus on Samura in the story and from Chihiro that it's overwhelming. Shiba should have brought Chihiro to have a talk with sushi man and lolibaba after having the talk about the war.

>>279712872
Him focusing on Samura makes sense because of his own daddy issues. And after Kyora I think he’s especially tired of bad dads. He’s also long believed all the sword wielders were heroes so to me it’s believable he isn’t ready to let go of that image. I think Samura will probably die before he can become a bad influence on Chihiro.

>>279712935
I love my dad a lot but I hate this shit in the story. I like Chihiro's devotion to Kunishige but when it spills onto different characters and we keep getting this focus on (shitty) father's that are praised by the story despite their faults I honestly hate it.

>>279713024
I don’t think Samura is really being praised by the story. Perhaps you’d feel differently if the focus was split across more people.

>>279713024
You have to show the rose tinted glasses before you can remove them and we can see which flags were really red
It's interesting to see how people remember him before we see how they actually were together, the other way around would have no impact

>>279713024
Samura is being shit on by the story for his actions.
He himself shits on himself too.

>>279712993
To me Samura having so much focus doesn’t feel overwhelming I suppose because I think he’s a good character albeit personally, not a likable one. He’s kind of pathetic actually and I find myself really siding with Inori. The only character I’ve really disliked is Hiruhiko but seeing him gasping like a dying fish was so satisfying.

>>279713048
I thought you were including Kunishige in that, my b
>>279713024
Most of the stuff with Samura specifically feels like
>"I know he's better than this, we can sort this out and find a better way"
Cause they obviously just don't want him to die?

>>279712985
I mean compared to the days before tho

>>279713040
>>279713050
The only person who openly criticized him in the story was a pathetic antagonist called Hiruhiko. Everyone else is understanding and forgiving even after being betrayed/killed and thrown away: Iori, masumi, Chihiro, Uruha. Shiba is accepting Samura's slap like a bitch even though the guy himself can't even protect his daughter from normie bullies and runs away.

>>279713073
I’d be disappointed if he didn’t die. Iori can join the orphan club. Uruha can be sad and has to cope with losing his mentor/friend and his sword (who would he even be without that?).

>>279713125
But people berate him, they simply don't want him dead.

>>279713125
I think it makes sense for some of these people to be forgiving which doesn’t entail that the audience reading must think likewise. Who I would most like to see react to him is Iori’s aunt because realistically she doesn’t have much reason to be nice to him.

>>279713125
I want to add that I don't dislike Samura as a character, I think he is pretty good. I dislike how other characters react to him. They are all so calm about Samura's actions they almost seem inhuman at times.

>>279713125
He's like that pathetic uncle that your entire family know can do it better but keep fucking it up.
You're allowed to not like him lmao

>>279713160
That’s why Inori is underrated. If she had never gotten sick she wouldn’t have bothered with him at all.

>>279713153
Yeah, that would be nice. I just want some balance, as long as one positive character on protagonists side calls Samura out I'll be satisfied.

>>279713160
>They are all so calm about Samura's actions
Because he's legit a harmless bitch
Farmer and Hiruhiko even called him a sensitive bitch and keep manipulating him into being their bitch
Again, it's this >>279713165

>>279713190
Characters don't know what the audience knows.

The entire protagonist side of KGB at this point just wants Samura to stop being suicidal
And he fucking keeps doing it again and again and again
So as a reader you either symphatise with him or you just sit down and watch him burn away by taking Hishaku's side (who did nothing wrong)

>>279713205
Uruha, Chihiro, Farmer, Hiruhiko, and even his wife know what Samura is like and from them we know what Samura is like
All info about him came from characters and not the narrator omniscience talking about him

>>279713182
>>279713214
Someone needs to punch the guy but he’s a masochist so he’d probably like it

>>279713268
He'd evade and say "it's okay, I'll shoulder the burden myself..."
And then punch himself.

>>279713214
Or you actively hate him and call him the retard.

>>279713526
That's Hishaku's side bro
Imagine being called an emotional sissy by a pink femboy

>>279713190
>he's legit a harmless bitch
Yeah? People killed by Hishaku cause Samura let em would disagree with you.
Samura's problem as a character is that he is shown as a total piece of shit responsible for many deaths, yet author is trying to frame him as harmless bitch. I don't know why, but it's annoying because it's disingenuous and making author look oblivious.

>>279713587
Anon the characters aren't omniscient
The Hishaku are deliberately doing stuff where Samura won't notice

>>279713587
How is he letting people die?
He was told to wait for his blade to be delivered and once the Hishaku started playing drama with a full frontal attack he helped people and fight Hishaku's goons
Once he got his blade he just knocked everyone out, killed Uruha and Chihiro, and skeddadle'd
If Hishaku delivered his blade without drama only sword wielders would've died.

kgbfags concede that hokazono isnt literally perfect challenge

Challenge Question

Name 5 recent WSJ works that managed to be successful without the need of fujoshi intervention. I'll be waiting

>>279713769
Ruri
Blue Box

......drawing a blank here

>>279713769
chainsaw man, dr stone, bokuben, ynn, kny,

>>279713769
GMR
Blue Box
Ruri
Witch Watch
Nue

>>279713835
>dr stone
Lmao

>>279713835
>dr stone
> kny

>>279713836
>GMR
>jump
>nue
>successful

>>279713835
>Dr Stone
>Kimetsu
>Didn't need fujos to be a success
In bizarro world, sure

>>279713769
Act Age lmao

>>279713769
CSM (Don't kid yourselves, the females have been carrying the series since day one)
WW
Blue Box
Ruri
Nisekoi

>>279713769
Shokugeki

>people have to mention manga from more than a decade ago
Waifufags are all playing gacha and watching vtubers at this point

>>279713954
CSM being the outlier where the girls are the frontliners instead of the guys really makes it the outlier from its fellow peers

>>279709482 (OP)
Kek

>>279713954
Even saying Witch Watch is a fucking stretch. Blue Box and Ruri are the only recent ones who didn't need fujo pandering to get where they are.

>>279713769
Are UU and Yozakura considered fujoshi works?

>>279714089
They wouldn't be considered successful.

Nice?

>>279714127
With these very low standards, they might as well

>>279714127
Yozakura had a very stable run for what it is.

>>279714132
Shit.

I've been going through the WSJ Music Videos on their youtube recently but how did Blue Exorcist of all things got a Music Vid?
https://youtu.be/q3Jr18BGJNQ?si=1VNpQOnbnqrH-2uY
Everything else is WSJ except for this one

Recent Nue arc makes me understand why editors wanted to keep it in bot 5.

>>279713769
Problem is if you want to join the big Boys fujo audience is necessary. JJK,KnY ,MHA and TR are all generational success that doesn't pale in comparison to those legendary series like Op, Bleach, Naruto and Dragon Ball. KnY,JJK,MHA and TR are all miles above the rest of industry it's not even funny.

I checked the archives and was shocked that when JJK came out, people completely ignored it and predicted it would get axed.

one piece spoilers

>>279715093
No fucking way.

>>279715106
it's totes legit

from last week's koisuru one piece

>>279715056
Whatever happened to Blonde Yuji anyway?

>>279715056
People here seem to forget you can't really tell if a new manga was gonna become a huge success or a huge flop. People really thought Red Hood was gonna be a huge thing just because everyone jacked off to Grim but that never came to be
Hell, in MHA's case, it took Hori three manga to finally get a hit

>current manga in wsj need fujoshis for [headcanon]
>aiiie if a manga in wsj doesn't have fujobaits it will be not [headcanon]

Truly estrogen filled cucked magazine

>>279715231
I read jjk when it had 8 chapters and I knew it was gonna be a hit, same for black clover
There are things that are just easy to predict

>>279715231
I just take it up if a new WSJ series is only active because anons jerked off to the girls, high chances it will not survive. If it survives, doesn't become a huge thing either.

cough syd cough

Did the manga anon who claimed that OTR would be a hit go quiet>

>>279715301
It's gonna survive

Gojo already made his presence prominent in early JJK. The series essentially won the one character they need to go popular so early in.
Same with MHA having the toxic duo of Deku and Bakugou

>>279715231
Flops like Otr are very easy to predict

>>279715231
I find it hilarious how mangaka have to resort to actual meta/nepotism to survive. Hori jumped to the lowest common denominator of capeshit. Moue went working for Oda and decided to milk nippon banzai after his u19. Kawaguchi waited for the moment WSJ is already axing several shit manga while serializing DOA cushions to boot.

>>279715056
It did look like prime axebait with that art, then again, I could say the same thing to KGB.

>>279715371
Shut up nuetard

>>279715375
>while serializing DOA cushions to boot.
... Like otr

>>279715375
Kawaguchi is that DOA cushion though?

>>279715371
Can you please elaborate? I don't see any big problems with Otr.

>>279715396
>>279715391
See how it's going to survive over that spokon garbage. I am not defending otr, it's shit, what I am talking about is meta maneuvering for the right moment.

There was a similar manga just recently, wasn't there? It had something to do with rings.

>>279715231
That was the norm for Jump back then.
Nowadays, as long as you're not a total flop. A weak seller can survive a long time. Look at how long Yozakura survived with very mediocre sales

>>279715450
Alternatively, kiss Oda's ass and you can also survive a long time

>>279715375
>Kawaguchi waited for the moment WSJ is already axing several shit manga while serializing DOA cushions to boot.
That's ironic considering how fast the new batch arrived
He didn't even get ten chapters to breathe
>>279715417
Otr is basically a Red Hood repeat, most are only reading for coom and won't actually support the manga. When Kawaguchi actually attempts to take the series in a traditional direction with the training and hero's journey, people rapidly lost interest. Nobody is invested in the characters at the end of the day and Kawaguchi doesn't know how to endear them to readers beyond sexual fantasies and niche kinks.

>>279715336
I will always wonder if Baku/Deku were meant to be toxic on purpose or if the mangaka legit thought it was a normal friendship.

>>279715481
Do you think Kiyoshi would have been axed ages ago if it was the exact same manga but Usui wasn't an Oda assistant/it did not get the Oda recommend?

>>279715481
>>279715498
Being Oda's buddy sure isn't guaranteed protection though. Remember Murakami?

>>279715491
>Eternal bullying victim thinks he's in the wrong and puts the Bully in a high pedestal
>Unironically, mind you
Pretty sure it wasn't. It's like stockholm syndrome on drugs

>>279715498
Of course it would have been axed. Oda nepotism is the only thing keeping this shit alive and shilled.

Why would they promote Syd after it ended?

>>279715514
Maybe Murakami was that much of a flop.

>>279715514
Murakami never got an Oda recommend.

>>279715541
Bear in mind that Hori (apparently) said that Deku would never be gadget hero before getting a quirk because "people don't help others without a reason". So sanity and common sense is out of the window when it comes to him.

>>279715514
>Remember Murakami?
that didn't get an oda recommendation though, he only recommended people watch the koisuru one piece anime (which was after murakami ended)

Hold on, if three more new manga are coming, who else are they going to axe?

>>279715689
embers and beethoven unless either of those is an extreme fake out

>>279715689
Chojo, Syd, Embers, Beethoven.

>>279715689
Embers and Beethoven

Harukaze replaced Chojo
Kaedegami will take over Syd

Relay Race and Ping Pong will take over Embers and Beethoven soon

Remember, if your MC is not popular, it will not survive
Harems/Romcoms are exempt from this rule, obviously.

>>279715713
>>279715720
>>279715733
Thanks!

>>279711945
Yes

>>279709482 (OP)
>Kaze, the younger twin, isnt a huge asshole like in the oneshot. He doesn't say much but he truly believes in his older brother's talent. His support might actually do more harm than good as he purposely hid the full extent of his own talent in order to make the older brother look good.
>The older twin, Haru, is much more unsure of himself in the serialisation. His ego took a major hit when it turns out his younger twin was merely hiding the full extent of his talent, for his sake. He's now unsure if its a good idea to play on the same team.
>The female coach from the oneshot is now split up into 2 new characters.
>A flamboyant male coach who is scouting the Kuzumi twins, and a middle school senior, Hayama, who is alot like a fusion of Hiruma (Eyeshield 21) and Nishinoya (Haikyu), who taught the older twin the proper pitching form.
>The female coach could still appear as a club advisor or in a much lesser role as it looks like Hayama might also take the duty as a temporary coach in his new highschool. He has already recruited various talents to partake in his project so there's no time wasting finding new member to bring in to the newly form baseball club.
Why is every single changes to Harukaze mound so competent?

>>279716464
Editors finally doing their job

>>279716464
>oh no Harukaze is following the classic trope of finding new members for their newly established club. It's not gonna survi--
>he already recruited them and the brothers were the last ones he wanted to bringing in.
THEY KNOW!

>>279716594
>Editors finally doing their job
Then explain Nice Prison.

>>279716815
Filler series meant to cushion the next batch

>>279716815
>wow, this xitter 4koma mangaka is popular
>i think he even did oneshots for us
>let's poach him

And the situation probably would have been better if Nice Prison was mostly done in 4koma fanart.

>>279717172
Isn't that against the rules?

HI

MA

TEN

"exclamation mark"

Cosmetic Brand "Himariz"

An energetic high school girl president

With 80,000 followers

I'm the charismatic model Yoshino Himari

But I can't cook

I can't do laundry

I can't clean the dishes

And I can't even use the copy machine.....

I totally suck at housework

My company hired a personal housemaid for me

A GUY FROM MY CLASS?!

IEMORI TENICHI?!

I CAN'T LET THE ENTIRE SCHOOL KNOW ABOUT THIS

It's a secret between us

WHAT AM I SUPPOSED TO DO?!

Good Morning Iemori

"yawn"

My high school life is over

I'm so lame

That's right, you baka

Himariz? That's my cosmetic

I look up to my housekeeper

From now on, please protect my home, okay?

My housekeeper <3

Chihiro's Starbucks-loving fiancée? WON.

>>279717252
I doubt it, if it does then they would give a warning doing that by now. Besides, he paid 10 copies of wsj issue come with votes with his money.

i can easily believe ono died again

author comments
https://mangaplus.shueisha.co.jp/web_pages/1934/

>>279717517
Is Astra Ashima too spicy for WSJ? Not sure if she could do weekly schedule though, she's struggling even at J+.

>>279717172
LMAO
desperate Kiyoshill cuck

>>279712624
Verdict: SMASH (8/10)
I'd slam that fucker into next Tuesday. The way he's holding that katana, like he knows exactly what to do with a long, hard weapon? I'd drop to my knees and let him use me like a fucking training dummy. I'd worship his cock like the goddamn blade he wields, sucking every last drop of cum from his sac. I'd spread my ass wide open, begging him to pound my pussy until it's raw, until I'm nothing but a quivering mess of orgasms. That trench coat? I'd rip it off him and devour his body, sucking on his nipples and tracing every scar with my tongue. Then I'd flip him over and let him ram his cock deep into my ass, feeling the burn as he makes me scream his name. I want him to make me his fucking bitch.

>>279716815
You gotta provide axe cushions for the series they care about somehow.

>>279717824
Seethe faggot, you lost

ENTER

>>279717985
1 more year of decline! KWAB

>Got Oda's recommendation
>Outsold by absolute shitters like Roboco, Kill Blue, and even axed series like Nue

LMAOOOOOOOOOOOO

>>279718055
>he's making graphs now
It's a mental illness threshold at this point

>>279718102
>ToC graph good
>Sales graph bad

KWAB

I love you guys.

>>279718087
Roboco is a hidden gem though.

>>279718217
It is. Kiyoshit on the other hand...

Just announce their anime already, Saito.

>wan piss
>kagurabuttcheeks
>deichi
>floppamoto
>poo box
>akanebanashilled
Will kaedegami become one of this magazine's PILLARS alongside the above series? How good were the mangaka's previous oneshots?

>>279716464
>debuting in an issue without KGB and OP so less people bought it
grim

>>279718329
forgot the image

>>279718329
Bro did you forget about KINOSHI??? >>279717985
It got a WSJ cover and it has great sales (for a battle comedy manga). It also has gays and lesbians too! It's definitely staying for another year at the top of ToC!

>>279718361
>people had to read it this time instead of skipping right to OP or KGB after the LCP
I'm betting it will live

>>279718361
Dont complain when it ends up doing well and jump starts shilling it to hell

>>279718449
Hopefully? It staying will make jump axe one of the shitters.

>>279717855
Akane....

Akane is so bizarre.

>>279718653
Tell me about it

>>279718653
Of course, since the manga is called Akane's Bizarre Adventure after all.

WSJ manga's threads update status?

>>279718677
>gets out-banquet by chihiro's fiancée
hiruhiko...

>>279718833
Everything's dead and whatever is alive has been necrobumped for several hours.

>>279718888
Kiyoshi's thread status?

>>279718902
Well?

Trigger will adapt Kiyoshi, right?

>>279719075
That's been set in stone for a while now

>>279719075
sure, why not

>>279719075
if its still alive after they are done with GMR

>>279719075
lol lmao

>>279719159
>girl meets royalties will bankrupt Trigger
its so grim

>>279719188
>Implying Aniplex and Sony Music records won't use their infinite money
11k shitters like Kiyoshit will never get anime by the way

>>279719298
>CSM got infinite money from Sony Music
>it all went to 12 endings and VAs that Sony wanted to push
I pray for any studio that picks up GMR, they won't see a single dime since all of it will go to paying the music labels

>>279719075
Nope, Toei or if it gets lucky, Bones.

>>279719759
>Toei
God please no.

>>279719159
>girl meets royalties will bankrupt Trigger
beautiful

>>279720407
>unless you include a climax from the very beginning the story is on its way to being dropped
otrbros...

>>279718888
>necrobumped
This ain't forum

>>279719394
The manga already was shilled by music label and artists. It's gonna be fine.

>>279720793
There's a reason they added a timer to delete new posts, stealth necro got out of hand.
But keep doing it.

What are the chances of Kiyoshi doing extremely well in digital sales like Nue?

>>279720948
1%
The digital pre-order was even shittier

>>279720948
>doing extremely well in digital sales
Poor
>like Nue?
Perfectly good.

>oh hey BB has a thread up?
>it's NTR bait and people eating it up
The last time this manga had a proper thread outside of anime was when the glasses bro got cucked
Maybe it only needs DRAMA to be popular here

>>279721019
does this mean chihiro is joining ruri soon?
cute & canon

>>279720407
This nigga don't know what a hook is.

>>279720948
No, it's confirmed to do badly digitally. Sales only do better during new volume release or sales.

>>279721019
It's also was oneshot from 2022, about a third of currently running series are based on oneshots from 2022.

>Kiyoshit is doing badly in physical
>"S-seethe! It has great ToC rankings and cover! One more year of Kinoshi!"
>Kiyoshit is confirmed doing badly in digital too
What will be his next cope?

Rurihiro poster...

Kill yourself himacuck. No amount of poorly made edits, graphs, and chatgpt spam will change the fact KINOshi won.

>>279721457
the :D sameface...

>>279720407
Explain demon slayer.

>>279721340
What Ruri sees after climaxing from scissoring with Akane.

>>279721514
Tanjiro getting a "win" over Giyuu and his sister defending him is an emotional climax to the story.

>>279721457
>KINOshi won
...'t make it to 2026.

>>279721638
Uh-huh, right.

>>279720407
Explain Ruri

>>279721697
Riding on the oneshot's coattails that actually had a proper climax.
It really never got as popular as it could have been.

>>279721514
>nezuko turns into a demon and tries to kill tanjiro
>giyuu arrives to kill nezuko
>tanjiro begs giyuu to spare nezuko, taking a beating for his sister
>nezuko comes to her senses and defends tanjiro against giyuu
>familial love triumphs over the harshest of circumstances
Very simple emotional climax that got people to care in just one chapter

Otrbros... it's over

https://www.shonenjump.com/j/comics/next.html
I dont see Ruri?

>>279721837
That, just like every first chapter does. That's how it works.

KINO Piece
KINO×KINO
Me and KINOco
SaKINOto Days
The Elusive Samurai
KINO Watch
BLEAK Box
AKINO-baNINO
Kill Blue
Nue's Exorcist
KINOrabachi
Ultimate Exorcist KINOshi
HORRENDUS-Ten!
Ichi the WINNER
KINObi Undercover
TIMBERs
SOVL of Beethoven
BAD Prison
Otr of the Flame
Harukaze Mound

>>279721923
You'd be surprised how most fail at the basics.

How likely is it that nice prison dies early, I want to see a u15 or even a u10

>>279721975
Name 5 or 10 series failed at the basics.

>>279721991
The truth is, Nice Prison's kinda getting funny.

>>279722022
Every axed manga ever

>>279722022
can you name every bread product you've eating in your life?

>>279722045
Very helpful, anon.

MamaYuyu didn’t deserve the axe.

>>279722263
Oh yes it did, zero direction.

>>279712761
yes but
>newbie sells 35k
and
>veteran author with pedigree sells 35k
are not the same thing
kishimoto wrote one of the biggest manga in history and then his next work gets yawns at best from the general public

>>279722263
It was stealing readers from a real shonen.

>>279722263
>muh panneling
doesn't make a manga worth reading.

>>279722402
I want to fuck not-Nishinoya so much.
That is all and the sole reason I hope it survives.

>>279722263
>first 3 chapters repeating the same thing
>another demon mentoring him when the mom is right there
>like 9 chapters just for him to get his first fight
Yes it did. But it would’ve live in the current time.

>>279722296
Maybe if he drew some himself, if a single Sam 8 page had this much aura instead of being incomprehensible scribles itd be a different story

>>279722945
People would still hate the story and hachimaru.

>>279721899
they removed it, Ruri is postponed

>>279722945
i remember having to read squid8 chapter 1 three times to figure out what the hell was going on, i knew it was doa right then and there

>>279722263
the promo posters were a lie btw.
made by the author himself

>>279718102
at least it's a comprehensible chart and not some bullshit like "% of growth"

>>279723074
That's how you can tell it's NOT the same schizo.

>>279722402
I want Hayama to step on my dick and call me garbage then proceed to teach me how to use it properly so he can strike out

>3M views
damn
https://x.com/petasweety/status/1933434372029346096

>>279723446
>Pedophile artist
Not even surprised

>>279723446
But why?

Time for Mangaplus views chart and analysis!

Ichi the Witch:
>Strongest start: Launched with the highest views among all four titles.
>Second spike: Notably rises again around chapter 22–24, possibly due to a plot twist, a color page, or promotion.
>Gradual decline: Despite the rebound, views taper off again toward later chapters.
>Takeaway: Ichi enjoys high international curiosity and strong moments of regained attention but struggles to sustain long-term momentum.

Hima-Ten!
>Stable performance: After the initial dip post-launch, it maintains a consistently flat line, hovering around ~100k views.
>No spikes, no crashes: It's the most stable of the bunch, indicating a loyal but niche readership.
>Takeaway: Not flashy, but steady. Could be a "cult favorite" that lacks viral appeal.

Ultimate Exorcist Kiyoshi:
>Sharp initial drop: After a decent start, Kiyoshi’s views plummet quickly within a few chapters.
>Mild rebound mid-run: There’s a small bump between chapters 18–24, likely due to plot developments.
>Overall decline: Views remain in steady descent, falling below even Hima-Ten! by later chapters.
>Takeaway: Despite editorial support, it struggles to retain viewership—strong signs of waning interest.

Shinobi Undercover:
>Early interest: Starts well and even leads the pack at chapter 5.
>Fast drop-off: Falls below 100k views soon after and doesn't recover.
>Takeaway: The premise may have intrigued readers initially, but retention is poor—likely due to weak narrative hook or pacing issues.

>>279723601
Summary:

| Title | Strengths | Weaknesses | Status |
| ---------------------- | ------------------------------- | ----------------------------- | -------------------- |
| **Ichi The Witch** | Strong debut, regained traction | Declining retention | High visibility |
| **Hima-Ten!** | Consistent viewership | No major growth | Stable niche hit |
| **Ultimate Exorcist** | Editorial push, slight rebound | Steep drop, long-term decline | Risk of cancellation |
| **Shinobi Undercover** | Good initial views | Fast falloff, no rebound | Weak traction |

>>279723592

>>279723661
>Pic related

I mean, I'm not yet fertile for that as of now, Laios......

>>279723601
This faggot is going to post his AI spam every thread huh

>only blue box remains

>>279723601
>>279723632
The data are compiled from this account: @mangastatistics

Also, total views as of Issue #21 (before the Golden Week double issue #22-23)
https://x.com/mangastatistics/status/1918647987003159033

>>279723939
Would you rather discuss your boyfriend nedicbas or dozen other schizos?

>>279724012
>dozen other schizos?*
*who are all actually the same person throwing a shitfit

>>279724012
I'll take a person over a bot any day you fucking loser

>>279723601
>>279723984
Do you think WSJ really care about mangaplus view counts? Has it affected outcome anything? Curious question, that all.

you guys are going to be shocked when nice prison ranks higher than roboco

I should've complained this in the OP thread but after looking at the spoilers. I think I should give an apology to the battle systems of the other shounen

Haki is so unbelievably boring and yet it's the solution to everything now

Blue Box: alive with 191 posts
Syd Craft thread: alive with 181 posts
Ichi thread: alive with 171 posts
Harukaze thread: died with 190 posts
Otr thread: died with 146 posts
Nue : died with 116 posts
Himaten thread: died with 97 posts
Sakamoto thread: died with 81 posts
Akane thread: died with 66 posts
Shinobi thread: died with 65 posts
Kiyoshi thread: died with 33 posts
Beethoven thread: died with 27 posts
Roboco thread: died with 17 posts
Kill Blue: wasn't dumped
Embers: wasn't dumped
Kagurabachi: on break

>>279724081
EXCLUSIVELY kagurabachi and because they were insanely high, its first chapter sits at 2 million views.

>>279724081
>Do you think WSJ really care about mangaplus view counts? Has it affected outcome anything? Curious question, that all.
Why do you think Nakano couldn't axe Kagurabachi?

>>279723951
Nope, there is Ichi and Syd >>279724103

>>279724081
No, the only time they ever cared was when KGB was at peak meme hype and kicked every major shonen's ass in the ranking except for JJK.

>>279724081
Alright Crepal / Franz, do you think Kiyoshi is going to stay for another year, sweetie?
>>279724036
Yeah, that Kiyoshifag really doesn't like whenever someone brought up that Kiyoshi is doing poorly in physical sales, digital sales, preorders, and mangaplus views. Watch out his next cope.

>>279724103
>Ichi thread: alive with 171 posts
Anon... Ichi's dead already.

>>279724103
Tell me about Syd

Why is /a/ the only fucking site that gives a shit about it?

>>279724133
Syd, yes, Ichi, dead.
Looks like its schizo went to sleep already, it dies at the same time every week assuming it lasts that long.

>>279724103
>Kiyoshi thread: died with 33 posts
OH NYOOOO

>>279724167
Honestly, no idea
Maybe people were still reeling from Bokuben

>>279724190
He's satisfied as long as it gets a decent amount above 66

>>279724271
If it wasn't for him I feel it would really die at around that number.

>>279724167
It just feels like one very passionate fan. You can see him in this general asking about syd every single moment

>>279724099
I just don't like the fact that Devil Fruits are being pushed aside as being the mediocre ones of One Piece's power system despite being the main draw.

>>279724103
>Himaten thread: died with 97 posts
>Shinobi thread: died with 65 posts
>Kiyoshi thread: died with 33 posts
Well then

>>279724443
That's what happens when you keep ramping up the powerscale.
Still hilarious how people tried to defend haki when it was introduced out of nowhere as if it had been foreshadowed all because oda gave up thinking of creative ways to beat logias so now he could just
>PUNCH HARDER

>>279724443
It feels very insulting. At least in other battle shounen, the other bullshit is still within the main battle system. But in One Piece, it's either you have Haki or GTFO. DFs won't do a shit anymore.

>>279722263
He should have stuck with slice of life

>>279724597
>LOOK AT ME I CAN DO LOOK BACK TOO

>>279724167
>>279724330
I looked up at the thread if they discussed other manga:

>>279690278
>I am not a schizo but it genuinely makes me angry that this got axed and not himaten. Syd's girls are so much hotter and have more interesting personalities. Himaten is the most boring thing ever.

>>279690328
>The girls aren't hot. I don't want to see an ugly girl's panties.

>>279697612
>>what went wrong?
>Ink is too expensive apparently. just check Hima-ten-dicks-in-a-row sales. I bet they sell almost the same and use half the ink per page
>same reason MMYY got axed instead of a certain manga filled with copypasted panels

>>279700641
>I still can't believe Hima-Ten outlived it.

>>279712456
>I hope Hima-Ten dies before reaching it's first year.

>>279717185
>>this shit gets axed BUT NOT SHIT-BLUE
>I'll never not be fucking mad about this

>>279723461
>>SHIT-BLUE
>I hope it goes full NTRbait and gets axed because of it. God, what a boring slop.

>>279724669
>Hima-ten-dicks-in-a-row
I laughed

>>279724669
That explained everything.

>>279724669
What is it about a silly romcom about a housekeeper that fueled so much anger in this general?

Maybe if syd did a sexy bikini cover, it would've lived

Why does this general seethe so much about Kagurabachi?

>>279715130
oh, this also mentioned it's been more than three years since gear 5 happened in the manga

also more spoilers

>>279725009
>general
Singular schizo*
There's a reason any and all shitting on it randomly starts and ends at once, as if "everyone" doing so just left.

>>279724128
>>279724131
>>279724134
Beside KGB, what else?
>>279724161
I nothing against Kiyoshi personal.

>>279725056
Nothing, no series has ever generated that amount of international buzz right off the bat.
Even if it died down and settled at "most popular jump series without an anime".

>>279724958
>shitty ritual posts
>hijacked OPs
>derailed threads with doxing antics
>now spams AI every thread
Himacucks are plain cancerous, they're like the worst of toubunfags and bokubenfags rolled into one

>>279725046
What even is the point? Did he somehow fucking fall for his own echo chamber? Like of all 60% posts here are at most 3 faggots. Legit mental illness.

>>279725100
I take it that KGB is special case, which mean rest of series view counts on mangaplus mean nothing to WSJ, is that right?

>>279725136
I thought the AI was from the usual schizo? It started after oricon and all, just to derail the thread.

>>279725008
You mean a doujin by TerasuMC.

>>279725167
They simply aren't significative, kagurabachi as a meme took over the discourse for a few weeks.
Also helps that it wasn't dead weight in nipland either (you just need to check its jump+ views, most series by newbies wish they got its numbers).

I want Desscaras femdom footfag doujins

>>279725265
Sent me a link of japanplus cause I'm curious.

and I want our WINNERS...WINNING

>>279725046
>its just one person
Take meds
>>279725161
>says fujofag, who regularly participates in discord raids here
very rich

>>279725171
Nope, it's all from a himatenfag
He even tried an AI smash or pass thing in this very thread thinking people would join in on the cuck fetish

>>279725315
sorry, there's only one WINNER in jump now

>>279725300
I think I still have the pics from its first three weeks.

>>279725346
The timeframe is way too convenient so I'm calling falseflag on that.
The schzo does LOVE using other series as a shield after all and the ai spam only happens when he's been posting too.

>>279725342
>>says fujofag, who regularly participates in discord raids here
Projection, kill yourself.

>>279725374
Is that app a region lock?

>>279723074
>>279723102
>they are still seething
Here you go.
Can't wait for Vol8 numbers with such a shitty cover.
Take a note - I joined this general just now, meaning you were shitting up this thread while fighting someone else all this time while thinking it's me.
That obsession over KGB haters is unhealthy. See a doctor.

>>279725136
>shitty ritual posts
A false flag, how many ritual posters do you think we have? If I count correctly, we have KINO ritual poster, AkaHiro ritual poster, OUR WINNER ritual poster, Himaten PV transcription ritual poster, and Kiyoshi's "Fuck the axe" image ritual poster. I bet it was only two or three people at most
>hijacked OPs
Once again, a false flag, plus you have a thread possession syndrome
>derailed threads with doxing antics
Crepal thought posting a forced memeword like "himaturd/himarat" in mangaplus was a good idea, he only had himself to blame. Same with Franz
>now spams AI every threads
Posting facts and data about Mangaplus views and WSJ manga sales is considered spamming now? Nobody complained when Giga dumper spammed hundreds of manga that nobody cares about

>>279725415
Yeah I doubt that, he's turned the thread upside down before with thread detective shenanigans just because he got called a himarat
You don't act like that for a manga you're falseflagging, that shit is genuinely tied to his identity and he was hurt by it
>>279725565
>Crepal thought posting a forced memeword like "himaturd/himarat" in mangaplus was a good idea, he only had himself to blame. Same with Franz
Speak of the devil

>>279725546
>Take a note - I joined this general just now,
Yeah, the thread wasn't an absolute shitfest filled with spam and samefagging, that's how everyone can tell you aren't here.

>>279725528
it's only on the japanese store as far as i know but otherwise it doesn't seem to lock out using it based on IP location or anything

here's up to date numbers for the first 3 chapters and 4 as a bonus

>>279725565
Also see >>279725546
Posting a chart like this has always been okay, since it's all just banter and fun, right? But apparently IT'S NOT OKAY if you try to expose Kiyoshi's poor sales and declining mangaplus views.

>>279725721
Is there a way to download it on my iphone? I doubt it easy way.

>>279712624

>>279725782
Post the tanuki Akane one to see if the AI still wanna smash it or not

>>279725565
y-yeah, we got all these TOTALLY different ritual posters...

>>279725782

>>279711691
Something is not right...

>>279725754
i use an android, but i think you'd have to make a japanese apple account and log into that on the app store to download it

you could also just use the site, but i don't think the views count shows up there if that's what you wanna see: https://shonenjumpplus.com/

>>279726009
>you could also just use the site, but i don't think the views count shows up there if that's what you wanna see: https://shonenjumpplus.com/
That the part I don't get it, we can't see view counts on website but can do on WSJ app? Make no sense!

https://desuarchive.org/a/search/text/Himarat/
https://desuarchive.org/a/search/text/Himaturd/
https://desuarchive.org/a/search/text/himaturd/page/2/
https://desuarchive.org/a/search/text/Himashitter/
I need to mention that this "rat guy" now starts using "himacuck" as an insult now that Crepal was exposed last month.
https://desuarchive.org/a/search/text/himacuck/

And what triggered this guy, apparently two things:
1. Somebody made one or two early threads with Himaten picture, triggering his schizophrenia and thread possession syndrome
2. Himaten's sales beat Kiyoshi's in November, and he was so sure that Kiyoshi was going to sell better than it
>>279725841
That's what I've been saying, all the ritual posters are just one guy or maybe two at most

>>279725830

>>279726110
Here we go again with the himacuck thread detective antics

This thread was so comfy.

>AI spam now

>>279726176
You were that obvious, Kiyoshill
Nobody is buying your dead manga, it's getting color pages because other authors are dying and don't wanna do it, your ToC rankings are inflated/botted, Oda's nepotism didn't work, your mangaplus views are declining, and it certainly would never, ever get anime by Trigger.

>>279726221
The schizo landed after all.

>>279726213
Chihiro? He WED that.

>>279726259
>himacuck melty because his detective trail ended and he can't dox every anon
Kiyoshi will live to get an anime and there's nothing you can do about it

>newest Champion cover has Iruma with tits in a wedding dress
Nishi really just does whatever she likes huh. When will we get this level of self indulgence in Ichi

>>279726527
When it actually starts doing the numbers jumo was expecting from it.

Who is the most self indulgent Jump author?

>>279726557
Is current numbers not good? It's selling better than Akane

>>279726460
>BROOO LOOK! IT'S FOLLIWING TRIGGER'S XITTER IT MEANS IT WILL GET AN ANIME
Do you care to explain why is it following this random account?
https://x.com/Vigilante2801

>>279726579
Yusei matsui

>>279726604
>series by two veterans, including their star pitybait is already stagnant by vol 3
>doing worse than the hit from the previous year
It's ok, but I think they expected better with the shitton of shilling they've done for it.

>>279726307
>Those spoilers
Man, I kinda feel bad for Harukaze for debuting in a dead week.

Kaedegami being the survivor of the batch is becoming very likely now

>>279726634
I don't run the account dipshit, all I know is that the editors are keeping Kiyoshi alive for a reason and that pretty much means an anime is in the works

>>279726579
Usui
>Editor: 'Draw a 15-page work for Short Frontier'
>Usui: 'Thanks! I'll even make two!'
>Editor: 'I think we can probably turn Kiyoshi into a 47-page work'
>Usui: 'Sure!!'

>- I get a Little cocky after the Kiyoshi one-shot is published -

>Editor: 'Let's work on a serialization pitch'
>Usui: 'I'll write more stuff other than Kiyoshi that I find interesting'

>- Huge storm of rejections, more storms, it keeps getting worse -

>- I get addicted to Smash Bros but can't even get to VIP so I get depressed. I get addicted to One Piece Cards but I get continuously rushed so I get more depressed. -

>Editor: 'Stop complaining and draw Kiyoshi'
>Usui: 'Right away!!'

>- On the deadline day I was scolded because of dilly-dallying and my editor got really mad at me. We managed to send the work to the meeting, with my life hanging by a single thread, and somehow they decided to turn it into a series -

>(My editor had me completely revise Chapters 2 and 3 after the meeting finished…)

Also according to anon:
https://desuarchive.org/a/thread/277848685/#q277861307
>Usui's been an assistant at Jump for ~15 years, he published like 7 one shots during that time. I'm starting to believe that he reached an agreement with Shueisha, so he's allowed to publish his work for a fixed amount of time, at least.

And yet his debut MEGA FLOPPED.
>Ultimate Exorcist Kiyoshi 1 — 4,839 / 8,937 (Total)
>Ultimate Exorcist Kiyoshi 2 — 2,241 / 10,953 (Total)
>Ultimate Exorcist Kiyoshi 3 — 5,629 / 10,595 (Total)

>>279726681
Does it actually matter that much when most readers would read the magazine digitally?

>>279726739
KWAB

>Shoichi Usui, a former assistant to One Piece creator Eiichiro Oda, just launched his own series in Weekly Shonen Jump! (Ultimate Exorcist Kiyoshi)
>Oda even gave a special recommendation for Usui’s first volume of Ultimate Exorcist Kiyoshi, a unique story about a powerful hero who’s secretly terrified of fighting demons.
>If you’re looking for something new with an Oda-approved twist, check it out!

PFFFT HAHAHAHAHHAHAHA

I was neutral on Kiyoshi but now I want it to flop because westoid fujo hype it for cringe bait. Its also so horrible at writing female characters that I asked myself if Usui thinks little of women. I hope it gets axed soon.

>>279726837
>Big hit
>Can't beat Himaten

>spamming because he has no power to stop Kiyoshi from living long enough to get an anime
Yup he's not beating the melty allegations

GOD, I love >>279711732 WINNERS

>>279726739
>>279726837
>Be Oda's assistant for 5 years
>Got Oda's recommendation
>Got outsold by a gyaru and her house cleaner romcom manga

KEKY POOOOO

>B-but Usui (the lazy bum who could not get serialized for 15 years) said he's going to stay for one more year! Look, the Xitter account follows Trigger too!

KWABOTY

Usui get a writer challenge

>>279726307
ah, yes, the legendary devil fruit
>>279715093

My favorite part about kiyoshi bullying is that one retard kept bringing up the TRIGGER anime as a way to fight back here but then Sushio drew some fanart of gmr and now that retard got mad whenever that pic gets posted. The only fake thing kiyoshi had going for it gone.

>>279727166
Somebody said his previous one-shots looked like SHIT, like he legitimately couldn't draw, that's why he had been an assistant for 15 years. Even his current art is 4/10 at best, he's constantly copying Oda.
>>279727216
KEK saved

>>279726579
Watsuki "Diddy" Nobuhiro

>>279726579
the ones who got arrested

>>279727270
I'm a kiyoshi hater but his art and design is interesting and unique I think. His male characters look better than females though. It's the writing that drags it down

Reminder that Kiyoshi will always own you mindbroken himacuck
You went into a spamming meltdown for everyone to see

>>279727369
He didn't stick with his premise. Shinobi is a better strong but socially awkward MC. I wouldn't hate Kiyoshi this much if it were not for his dumb decision to introduce exam arc, training arc and this long, boring black parade arc. It's shit. I can't wait it to end already.

Meanwhile Shinobi is where the SOVL at. It can switch between action and comfy SoL manga and still feels right.

>>279727452
Having melty already? Your daddy Oda is not going to save your sinking ship.

Excuse me, but how something like UEK could even mindbreak anyone?

>>279727581
>make a bunch of predictions about uek
>be wrong
>see it live and get promotions
It's as simple as that, schizos can't handle being wrong

>>279727452
Wake up, everyone is clowning on your shitty manga.
>>279727581
It doesn't deserve the constant shills. Kiyoshi is to Saito what Nue was to Nakano.
https://www.jajanken.net/en/sakuhins/GJnOxdP84L
See this delusional >>279727640 thinking that ToC alone will get his shitty manga animated.

>>279727640
But nobody even cared enough to bet. The posting style seems to be the same schizo who targets one series, makes a bunch of negative posts and then switches to another series.

I almost miss KnY vs OP salesposting from previous threads, I actually managed to learn something from that.

>>279727216
He keeps clowning on himself by saying GMR is going to bankrupt Trigger, as if animating a 10k bottom-seller bitch like Kiyoshi would actually be profitable. LMAO.

>/csm/ shartoid is here

>>279727870
Nigga, you just realized that NOW? Micro has been posting GMR pic for months now.

new bread

reminder, DEIchirat, Nuerat and Himacuck dump threads DIED without hitting bump limit

bump

bump x2

bump x3

>enter thread
>see micro and himacuck team up to dog pile diaperyoshi kino

Why does /wsj/ love ntr so much? They cant stop talking about it

>they destroyed a Typhoon in Dandadan
they are finally Ruri tier

TriggerCHADS...

nuerats 'cord woke up