Why did Japan give up on incest after Oreimo?

tokyo law
why do we have to explain this to you oeimo schizos every fucking week

>>279718022 (OP)
Lame and gay laws that forbid portraying incest in a positive light

>>279718046
Aren't they from Chiba?

Mahouka still exists. Other than that though, yes, they have given up. But don't worry, modern seasonals replaced it with race-mixing and transexuals instead, courtesy of BlackRock Fund Advisors™

>>279718192
Yes, but most anime come out of Tokyo and Tokyo has one third of Japan's population meaning that you lose a lot of potential customers if you violate their laws.

>>279718218
>Mahouka still exists.
and its shiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiit going by genre mix alone

>>279718022 (OP)
how many siblings fucked as a consequence of oreimo?

>>279718262
Wait a second that can't be right, Tokyo only has 14mil..
>The Greater Tokyo Area, which includes Tokyo and parts of six neighboring prefectures, is the most populous metropolitan area in the world, with 41 million residents as of 2024.
God that's fucking stupid
>>279718303
Less than as a consequence of the funny cough.

>>279718022 (OP)
What Japan really needs right now is less inbreeding and more variety in the gene pool

>>279718192
Chiba is part of the greater Tokyo area

>>279718355
how many times do we have to teach you this lesson /pol/tard!?

>>279718355
Yes, it needs indian genes.

>>279718022 (OP)
I don't remember this happening

>>279718022 (OP)
They haven't given up on incest at all, cf Alya-san anime

Tokyo Law is because of Aki Sora and Yosuga no Sora, real incest masterpieces

>>279718574
name 10 recent manga that are worth reading and about incest

>>279718395
This but unironically.

>>279718132
Only if it's aimed at people under 18+.

>>279718787
How does one even define that? So what, you can portray office worker siblings having sex just fine?

>>279718022 (OP)
What is the obsession with incest? All stories are badly written.
Who consumes these?

>>279718616
Haven't read anything specifically about incest and forgot what I read all time, I dont think I could give more than 3 if I had to search the recent ones I read.

I'd say there probably is more interesting recent doujins (mostly Oreimo or Imouto no Otetsudai) than recent manga

>>279718022 (OP)
>reverse search
Had no idea geewhy was making animations
that was pretty good, Kirino's face the whole time he was fucking her ass was great

>>279718904
>Who consumes these?
People who never had siblings

>>279718022 (OP)
>implying

>>279718904
>What is the obsession with anime? All stories are badly written.
>Who consumes these?
FTFY

>>279718022 (OP)
They didn't but best incest stories need sex and impregnation and you just can't air that on TV so they moved on to write actual porn

>>279718944
hope you arent into mom/father incest since that means you have no parents. dumb trolling motherfucker

Why do people still believe the Tokyo Metropolitan Ordinance did anything? It was roundly mocked and never enforced as a result. There is only less now because some faggot convinced suit guys that the people wanted shitty isekai which consumed everything for the past few years while the studios were in a weaker position. Hopefully we'll see more cestnema now that studios are better off and isekai is a proven flop.

>>279718904
yosuga no sora is good written

>>279719070

>>279718911
>I'd say there probably is more interesting recent doujins
The problem exactly, which is why I asked for examples. Many if not most absolutely gave up on the genre, probably because they had to.

>>279719062
It was enforced.

Kirino says Vote to Repeal Oppressive Laws that restrict sisters from experiencing their nii-nii's affections

>>279719062
>and never enforced
lol

incest and lolis are bad.

>>279719154
>whole story gets cucked by a spin off psp game that retcons them to be siblings
that whole franchise is a shit show and the author is a faggot

>>279719124
Truly unfortunate indeed, the only ones recent I found (and already read) are Siscon_Ani_to_Brocon_Imouto_ga_Shoujiki_ni_Nattara and Bokutachi wa Hanshoku wo Yameta , but I suppose everyone already read these .

>>279719140
>>279719168
It wasn't. The image I posted is direct proof. Shaft adapted that scene a few years after the law passed. Nisio himself wrote that scene right after the law passed specifically to spite it. Big companies like Sony still sponsored stuff like Eromanga Sensei years after the law. To be fair, the law was only really about marking things as not for children though.

>>279719226
1. As you said, everyone already read it
2. I wouldn't exactly call it "recent" at this point
It's a sad state of affairs all around for sure, close to nothing we can do about it either I think.

>>279718904
Exploring taboos in fiction is fun, and variety is the spice of life.

>>279719398
It is because you'd get very clever and good incest stories due to the older guys actually living it. They actually did stuff like bathe with their siblings and tease each other. Then you get a newer crop who likes it, but doesn't see it as much more than a fetish trope. So their writing is a lot worse and gimmicky. Romanticism is in a massive slump in the modern world in general.

>>279719249
>Eromanga Sensei
You absolute fucking retard don't even know what NBR is!

>>279719249
>Sony still sponsored non-incest content like eromanga
yeah no fucking shit sherlock

>>279719511
>due to the older guys actually living it
To put it very simple but to the point: People that used to know how to fucking write, plus they gave a damn for the topic one way or another wrote it. Now days they either don't care or simply don't know how to write, many barely know how the avrg folk talks anymore. Sad state of humans in general, esp city folk.
>They actually did stuff like bathe with their siblings and tease each other.
Haha, yeah...
>but doesn't see it as much more than a fetish trope.
Gets even worse when you have those people (un)ironic shit posting in threads like this here, for whatever reason it might be.
>Romanticism is in a massive slump in the modern world in general.
Tell me about it

>>279718904
"People" with no siblings, Muslims and Americans

>>279720011
people with siblings commit actual incest though

>>279720096
I suspect having a sibling is the only way it's physically possible to commit incest

>>279718022 (OP)
Kiririnshi a cute! CUTE!!

>>279718022 (OP)
they didn't it just magically became NBR everywhere

>worst girl won
Fuck this show

>>279718022 (OP)
why is it so puffy?

>>279721207
I wouldn't consider getting the retarded brother as a win

>>279718944
I have 3 sisters and love incest shit

>>279721200
this, there's one airing now and the premise is that they grew up thinking they were siblings which is the best blurring of the lines that you're going to get

>>279721200
>they didn't
>just magically became NBR
moron

>>279719062
I thought she had a dick when I saw the thumbnail.

>>279721376
Adding in one line of exposition to justify telling the story you wanted to tell but weren't allowed to without that line isn't really giving up on the concept imho.

>>279718022 (OP)
it's disgusting

>>279721209
She's pure

>>279721294
The definition of sloppy incest writing. They suddenly wants their brother’s dick for no reason
Yosuga no sora on the other hand is very believable

Anything NBR is the worst thing that ever existed.

They had a moment of clarity.

>>279721688
>for no reason
I think finding out a person you're proximate to is socially acceptable to be attracted to is a pretty good reason to become attracted to them, but yes YnS is high art I won't argue there.

My moment of clarity was filtering that retard tripfag just now

>>279722002
Based

>>279721207
stupid bitch cost herself the win out of stupidity

>kids, come to the table
>it's time you knew the truth
>you aren't blood related and can legally get married if you wanted to and even breed
>oh no reason, we just thought you'd like to be weirded out by that

>>279721946
That and they already know they are happy and comfortable living together.

>MC and sister run away and live a secret married life under assumed names so no one gets in the way of their relationship
>aunt finds them and informs them they're NBR
>divorce

>>279718171
Hands look like shit

>>279721946
>>279721688
Reminds me of Arrested Development when Lindsay found out she wasn't blood related to Michael she INSTANTLY wanted to fuck him

>>279718355
Japan isn't the country with a huge inbreeding problem.

>>279722176
>also you will continue to cohabitate, largely unsupervised
best father ever, he provided his son with generational wealth and orchestrated the perfect harem

>>279719154
I'm also against this law because it prevents teen pregnancies in anime and restricts loli stuff.

>>279719154

>>279720148
I suspect you're retarded.

>incest thread, OP using oreimu normalfag imagery
>thread instantly dissolves into /pol/ shit flinging about how this and that are bad
that's why the last thread was so much fucking better, think it even hit the bump limit or was close to

>>279719544
That's irrelevant when discussing about that law. The same law you talk about also include step siblings in them.

>>279718046
>tokyo law
retard

New generations of Nips don't have siblings.

>>279719727
I don't know why the author decided to make them NBR when he was going to draw blood related sibling breeding anyways.

>>279722914
Lol, this.

>retard
>no counter argument
average /a/tard
>>279722952
rofl

>>279722860
Marrying your step-child is allowed in most countries in the world.

>>279722334
>chilean patagonia almost black
?

>>279722176
>sister hates me
>dad: surprise you're not related
>hates me even more now
t-thanks

>>279718904
I was really interested in it as a teen. Lost interest in it as an adult, along with anal.

>>279719062
Anon take a look at your sadpanda favorites and observe the fact that those irrational, pointless black bar censors are present on ALL of them. Not some, not 99%. All.

marriage not allowed but sex allowed in Japan

>>279723051
Never liked anal ever. Gay shit even when done on women

>>279723063

>>279722986
That's not the point, people bring up le Tokyo Law when it specifically says they should not target to children any work that depicts siblings being involved sexually, blood related or otherwise.
It haven't stopped that show airing right now about siblings learning they're not blood related, didn't stop this >>279719727 from the MC fucking both his BR and NBR imouto, didn't stop normalfag supreme Haka from drawing actual blood related twin siblings kissing and so on.

>>279722941
Do you mean oreimo, or pic related that I posted?
>>279722334
>2009
>that image quality
I have a feelings things have changed one way or another (just not officially) since covid...
>>279723063
>Most either treat it as a "Who cares" or "Just don't tell anyone"
>Ge*many and Ireland act like special snowflakes, allowing it when faggots do it

>>279723080
I never liked the idea of anal. I always imagined it could damage the anus or intestines of a woman.

>>279723080
>>279723135
based vaginal sex haver. i just think anal is ugly and is disgusting
>b-b-but its so tight its super nice!
dont care plus the effort involved is stupid

>>279722914
That's not true at all. The 'siblings rate'(or whatever they call for the number of kids every woman who actually give birth have) is the same as West, in fact I think it was higher than some countries in the West.
The low tfr is purely driven by women deciding to not have any children at all, not those having less children.

>>279723129
The pic you posted, yeah.

>>279723089
>>279723063
>legal for SAME-SEX sbilings (and minors)
holy fuck that is retarded beyond believe
>france, spain, portugal and italy are being based about it
cant believe im saying this

>>279723063
Brazil here.
I'm pretty sure only cousin marriage and stuff is legal not all incest...

>>279723206
Only randomly got into it when trying a new feature and searching tags, though the ratings made me worry at first, but I'm also only 3ch in so far. Guess there goes my desire to continue.

>>279723129
In Germany marrying your step-sibling was and is still allowed.
A step-parent marrying a step-child wasn't allowed, a case from the year 2000 was declined but it was allowed in the year 2005 or 2006.

>>279723238
The map is about sex being allowed not marriage.

>>279723135
I don't like anal either but I understand the appeal, it's about domination first and foremost, followed by the tightness of course. As for damaging the anus, it's unlikely to happen when using a lot of lube and following the initial preparations. The real problem is there are a lot of things that can go wrong with anal, such as internal hemorrhoids the woman is unaware of, fecal coliforms getting on your dick, worsening of rectal abrasions, etc, etc, and it's not worth the risk unless both parties are really into it and are willing to do everything necessary to make it happen.

>>279723269
If you're okay with spoiler, that black haired guitar girl is his actual br imouto, he became her boyfriend without knowing this and they had sex. Then he just became a manwhore and started having sex with a bunch of other women and it became a typical harem.

>>279723218
Germany's AOC is 14 (with several restrictions). I think the idea behind is that they don't want to punish a 15 year old brother and a 15 year old sister for fucking each other.

>>279723063
Why are arabs so against incest even though at least half their family trees are inbred.
It's like ''i'm not gay, the guy's ass i'm fucking is gay'' logic.

>>279718022 (OP)
>>279718046
>>279718132
The year oreimo aired was packed with otakucore anime, Yosuga no Sora being the peak of it all among the big three incestcore names of the time.
>loli shota kiss
>twincest
>nipples
>panservice
>h scenes of schoolgirls
TV anime broadcasts can't be matched again today with the same heights as YnS with sex scenes being explicit, it still remains the greatest of all time, unmatched in its throne.

>>279723306
>marrying your step-sibling was and is still allowed.
uhh intredasting and oddly unexpected
>step-parent marrying a step-child wasn't allowed
ehhhhhhhhhhhhh not sure how to feel about this one myself to be honest. for once im on the side of power faggotry.
>>279723403
end of the day those folks only give a fuck for what their funny sand bible tells them and even that is probably up to discussion

>>279723418
It's funny things are not far more restrictive when we don't even need to bother about tv broadcast lol.

>>279723371
I don't think sibling sex is legal here...

>>279723238
Did you try to do it?

>>279723486
I almost fucked my cousin...
who's waaaaaaaay older than me...

>>279723080
As a teen it was exciting because there was no risk of pregnancy. I was definitely only interested in it because of that.

>>279723445
*are now
At least tv broadcasts can be understood that kids might encounter it while switching channels.
>>279723459
It doesn't need to be legal, just not be explicitly illegal.

>>279723389
>he became her boyfriend without knowing this and they had sex
she knew the whole time though
so fkn hot

>>279723403
Maybe they had too much problems with brothers and sisters marrying each other like it often happened in Ancient Egypt or Ancient Persia with zoroastrian and they decided that a brother having sex with his sister isn't allowed but a cousin marrying his other cousin is okay and they then overdone it with cousin marriage?

>>279723396
>both are 17: [sack rice fell over]
>both are 18+: JAIL TIME FOR YOU ZWEI DISGUSTING FREAKS
>theyre faggots: look at them go! :D
>>279723389
>spoiler
Lol. Lmao. Rofl. Straight up spit take moment.
>and it became a typical harem.
Now THIS 100% killed my willingness to read it. The other bit could've been alright and a lil bit amusing at least.
>>279723509
>who's waaaaaaaay older than me...
Based.

>>279723509
>waaaaaaaay older
Glad you didn't go all the way.

>>279723529
Yeah, she's been stalking him since he was a child.

>>279723135
I'm opposite.
I like the idea of anal, well of a woman being willing to let you do it.
But never actually doing it because it's gross and dangerous.

>>279723563
>>279723569
Honestly the only reason it didn't happen is because we couldn't find some time alone to actually do it. But we still make out when we see each other, which is rare nowadays
and when I mean older I really mean it. I don't know whats wrong with me

>>279723570
>girl: incest is wrong!
>girl: I mean incest not involving me is wrong!

>>279723563
What's funnier was she knew he was her brother since kindergarten, secretly stalking him since and then manipulated him in to becoming her boyfriend explicitly using the excuse that it's creepy to be attracted to his nbr imouto and he should get over it lmao

>>279723651
What's the name of the series?

>>279723703
It's in the pic here >>279718171

>>279718022 (OP)
Its because Oreimo was so fucking shit.
Kirino a shit
MC a shit
Kuroneko a shit
Everything a shit.
The first episodes of season 1 was kinda good I will admit, but everything after that was terrible. The status quo of Tsun-tsun Kirino with 2% dere at the end of each episode, only to be ingored in the follwing episode was the deathblow of this trash. Imagine a rom-com where there is no progress being made.
Welcome to Oreimo.

>>279723611
>But we still make out when we see each other
A bit of family bonding never hurt anyone...
>I don't know whats wrong with me
There is a guy I think I talked to twice in a milf thread. When he was 30 he really badly wanted to nail some 50-60 yo asian lady because of her personality. He had a hardon for older woman since. Love falls where it does, nothing bad about it. Some like fatties, some this some that.
>>279723570 >>279723651
Stupid as hell, but would be worth a read if it wasn't for the generic harem garbage after that. Really confused if I should go for a few more chapter now or just give up, it's not that long so far anyway.

>>279723724
No anime?

>>279723798
I'm 30.
She's 57.
She got a son my age.

>>279723819
kys anime only

>>279723735
Fuck you! I loved Kirino and her loli fetish.
I need a waifu like her who is hot, cute but also has a waifu fetish.

>>279718022 (OP)
I want to use that ass as a pillow

>>279718022 (OP)
Don't suppose there's a version of this animation without the pubes?

>>279723833
Unironically don't care. All power to you, brother. I mean what I said, and I'm sure she is happy about a young fuck like you wanting to nail her, so all the better I think.

>>279723847

>>279723611
>>279723833
Is that not the exact thing that gets you up?

>>279723798
Its still ongoing, I'm still waiting how this trainwreck will end. Currently NBR imouto is the best girl so I don't want her to lose. If incestgods grace, we'll get twosome ending with both his imoutos but I think it's pretty clear 90% it'll be the nbr imouto solo win.
>>279723819
No, it's an LN with a manga adaption.

I wish Eromanga was harem end

>>279723459
Sibling sex is allowed everywhere nobody is going to police that people just need to ne sneaky about it

>>279723904
>Its still ongoing
What I mean is that there isn't many (translated) chapters, at least I didn't see that many being a thing yet.
>No, it's an LN with a manga adaption.
manga have any big differences so far to the LN? It's what I'm reading, obviously.
>>279723945
Go read porn.

I'm sorry, but Ayase was the best girl. Sure, Kirino is an imouto and is hot, I'll give you that. She was great. But Ayase is a psychopathic yandere.

>>279724006
I don't know anything about the LN but I'm pretty sure it closely followed the same plot(I was spoilered about the BR imouto thing months ago, even before the manga reached that point from LN readers).
I think it was untranslated for a long time but someone started picking it up recently and now we got a bunch of chapters.

>>279724076
Gotcha, that explains the low amount of translated. chapters

>>279723902
Not really? I never had a thing for milfs

>>279724002
>Thievery is allowed everywhere people just need to be sneaky about it

>>279724108
Well, guess >>279723798 is right
>Love falls where it does, nothing bad about it.

>>279724137
That is unironically the view on morality bugpeople have.

>>279724237
Well yeah, but that's why they're bugpeople.

Hard to believe there are people on /a/ so embarrassed about not knowing about the Tokyo Bill that they now have to invent a fictional world where it never took effect, didn't lead to immediate manga cancellation, and didn't lead to permanent changes to retailers.

It's even harder to believe that there is people unironically advocating that there is no funny law that totally made any of this shit happen.
Hell, even if the law weren't real, then it would be something else enforcing all the authors to magically stop making incest related stuff.
Who cares if there is a law or not, hard fact is that people stopped making incest content outside of porn, this can't be ignored.

>>279724510

>hard fact is that people stopped making incest content outside of porn, this can't be ignored.

I fail to see the problem.

>>279718022 (OP)
Because Oreimo's final episode was aired in June 2013 and Japan was granted the Tokyo Olympics in September 2013, causing them to start a purge against anything the gaijins might not like.
If you have any question about why Japan stopped X, or why things suddently took a gay turn by the middle of the 2010", it's the Olympics.

>>279723864
>without the pubes
Wow, what shit taste.

>>279725261
Fuck you, the sibling route is always peak!

I believe both the Tokyo Bills and the globalization of the industry (big platforms like Crunchy, Netflix, etc... taking part of the anime production committee) affected incest anime.

There's still as much step sibling romance because it's not affected by the law but it doesn't feel the same. It's not as taboo and it's not incest, no matter what some people say.

>>279718022 (OP)
Just because people don't know how to write it anymore i think.
I mean, people here used it a lot as reference but in Yosuga no Sora you have the sister route and some JP cultural references like Sora wanting to die drowning so she could be reborn as someone without Haruka blood, to destroy the highiest barrier in their love relationship, and you also can see and even if you hate incest you can't negate the reason for it, the social, emotional, familiar and even the reason for her own existence which is her brother love.
And there's too the fact they don't just fuck, promise to love each other being blood related and that's it, they face a lot of consequences for it, throw away friends, school, a future, everything in the name of their love while you have new stories like that russian girl anime where the sister just teases and nothing more, it is treated as a fetish joke of the author and not an taboo to explore deep in.

>Tl; Dr: It is just that people don't know how to write the taboo of incest anymore, probably because society changed too much for it to be viable again.

>>279723089
Wait so it's legal in Italy unless I yell "Sister Fucker' at them from across the road then suddenly it becomes a crime?

what the fuck is up with all the trip faggots that i need to filter today jesus christ

>>279726755
what are some other stories or media where the taboo is explored??

>>279718904
People with siblings

>>279718022 (OP)
A good big brother should spank his little sister regularly

>>279726995
I think for Italy it is the judge decides if you go to prison for fucking your sister or not.

Time for...

>>279726995
yes

>>279726995
Don't be a huge cunt about it, pissing people off with it on purpose or something. Pretty straight forward, at least going by this image.
>>279727283
99% this. Generally the police isn't going to give a shit, if someone makes a huge stink about it then it's probably down to the judge.

>Anal haters
/a/ has changed.

>Éire, Deutschland
>LEGAL FOR SAME-SEX SIBLINGS ONLY
based.

surprised it took THIS long for a uri schizo to show up

>>279728000
Now we wait till the Rikaschizo shows up.

>>279724403
>>279724510
There's like one series I think that was cancelled(Aki Sora) which deserves it because it's hentai in all but name and the stuff that came later that were even more risque than that and even more 'romanticized'.
>>279726636
That law covers all siblings. Not just blood related ones. Only special grade retards think the kind of moral guardians that seethe about shows showing siblings fooling around being a bad influence on kids would suddenly be okay with it if you add the suffix step in it.

>>279727868
I like girls made for anal but I'd only have vaginal sex with them.

>>279721608
>>279715287