Dumping

>>279815090 (OP)

>>279815115

uhhhh hello?

I'll dump the next five pages

You got a few more chapters to go too

okay, done. now someone take over
I'm not doing all the fucking work. I did more than faggot OP anyway

>>279815573
>Two of every item
I really hope this goes better than his last manga, because he does some nifty things beyond appealing to my fetishes

sauce

>>279815663
How many anons does it take to dump a manga chapter?

>>279816923

>>279815621

I hate when mangakas pull this "I knew you way back and you don't remember bs".

It's unoriginal and lazy.

I would've been open to it if maybe it were hinted at in previous chapters but no, she treats him like a stranger at work and only interacts with him while drunk. Shit comes completely out of nowhere!

Is incredibly funny how the MC starts acting so insulted by her behavior knowing how much of a creep he is.

rawnanon here, will keep dumping the weekly raw until the scanlator catches up.

>>279816949

>>279817346

>>279817410

>>279817448

>>279817485

>>279817513

>>279817410
>>279817448
Stay fit, bros.

>>279817549

>>279817598

Japs truly can't help themselves. Either that, so they have to be getting dropped big money on a consistent basis to shove cuck shit into everything.

im convinced the whole marriage is a fake story that she only made up to catch the MC in his hipocrisy

I have no clue what this is, but I am vaguely aware of the pads manga since I've seen it shitposted before.

There's no way this trash is actually popular, right? It's just some fringe shit that limps by on shock factor, right?

fin

>>279817867
this shit is absolute fucking kino and you know it.

>>279817867
I keep seeing this series posted everywhere and I like the the main girls eye are a combination of cute and freaky so I’ll take this as a sign to check it out

>>279817867
It's the zoomers with their ironically liking something culture, like this guy >>279817909

>>279817867
>There's no way this trash is actually popular
well it sold like shit so you're not wrong

>>279817867
It's number 9 on Yanmaga, but pretty niche over here.

>I know I'm cheating on my husband, but you're just as bad for sniffing my pads that I threw away anyway, that's totally just as bad
woman moment

>>279817878
Thanks for dump.

It's fucking Kurosawa again, but only more unhinged.

>>279818032
Only that it involves jacking off, circumstances are too different otherwise.

>>279817823
yeah, because a pretty woman with big boobs in her 20s couldn't possibly be married already
lol

>>279817953
Not a zoomer, and I like it unironically.

>>279818032
Kurosawa was also the fucking GOAT and pretty much nothing but this has scratched that particular itch for a long time.

If western zoomettes are re-discovering the early scene look, there's hope for chuuni to also make a comeback.

WE CAN RETVRN

>>279817878
He's just like me fr, fr

>>279815573
>>279815645
>>279817598
I actually looked up how difficult it is to divorce in Japan because of this chapter:
>1. Compared to America where you can just divorce for the hell of it, both parties must agree to divorce in Japan. If they don't, they need to go through mediation at a Family Court, with the purpose of trying to make both parties agree to divorce or stay together.
>2. If that fails, then you can aim for Judicial Divorce where a court will decide, but only if it falls in one of these categories: Infidelity, Malicious desertion, Spouse missing for 3+ years, Severe mental illness, "Other grave reasons" (court discretion).
>3. If one of those categories is met, a divorce can happen even if another party does not agree. If not, you will stay married.

TL;DR Since the husband said "You can come back home when you've reflected on your actions" it's technically not abandonment since she can come back anytime (or at least, he can argue that). Therefore she can't divorce him unless she wins court discretion.

Fun fact: Even if she cheated, if the husband wanted them to stay married, he could force the marriage. The one who commits infidelity can't use it to divorce.

>>279817819
wtf is this plot twist??!?!

who reads this crap

I dropped this shit manga the moment he picked up her pad out of the trash. Fucking disgusting.

>>279818395
>plot twist
Did you not read the first 2 chapters?

>>279818133
>yeah, because a pretty woman with big boobs in her 20s couldn't possibly be married already

Is this your first manga ?

>>279818719
>all manga have to be unrealistic wish-fulfillment
yeah, great point, genius

>>279818032
>Kurosawa
What the fuck are you on about? It's plot driven shit for shock factor.

>>279817819
I just noticed after my 2nd re-read of this chapter that that's her bathroom, not the work one. After his heroic speech in chapter 10, he STILL went into the trash and used her pad.

That's hilarious and I feel dumb for not noticing sooner.

KITA KITAAAAAAA!!

>>279817982
Is it actually doing well there? Its favorites count on Yanmaga seems pretty low. Also, apparently volume 1 sold really badly.

>She's a cheater
>He's a pervert

Who's worse?

>>279817823
I may agree with you in this. Not just because it would be kino, but also because it doesn't make sense that she is back at her husband's apartment if they are still on bad terms.

>>279815621
>>279815645
>I cheat on my husband and rationalize it
women.

>>279819171
Cheating involves hurting another person, being a covert pervert isn't really affecting anyone else unless they find out. Then again, if what >>279818365 says is true and this girl's husband isn't taking care of her needs, I don't have much sympathy for the husband and the girl can cuck him all she wants as far as I'm concerned.

>>277183387
today i will remind them

>>279819171
cheater. they could just leave or make their feelings clear instead of doing stuff in secret. at least you can be a perv in private

>>279819282
iand rationalize it
She doesn't. She considers herself a horrible person and is glad that MC is too.

>>279818815
No, it's the work one. He's wearing his work clothes in the video and something else at her house.

>>279817947
Just finished read and after getting through the gross first chapter I’m really captivated. The being overly creepy because you’re scared of being seen as a freak stuff was interesting and I don’t know the art way to describe it but I really love the main girls eyes they are the perfect blend of cutesy and creepy. Despite getting lots of stuff from her point of view they are drawn in a way that it’s always hard to tell what she is really thinking. She’s a cute version of creepy almost like a parallel of the MC

>>279819336
Is it really cucking if the relationship is essentially over but she can't legally divorce him?

>>279820056
Depends on why he's doing it, some guys will pull this shit because the woman doesn't kowtow to their every whim, and they don't believe that their wife would have the balls or capability to fuck another dude. If he's just neglecting her because he lost interest, I guess that wouldn't be cucking, but why wouldn't he just divorce at that point?

>>279817990
No, sniffing the fucking used pads of female coworkers is fucking gross, and getting off on that shit at work doubly so.
>b-but he did it privately!
Doesn't matter. If you found out some "friend" was taking bags of your cut hair from the barbershop would you really consider them preferable to someone who's unfaithful?

>>279820277
>would you really consider them preferable to someone who's unfaithful?
Yes, by much.

>>279820277
>is fucking gross
is definitely lower on the "what the fuck" meter than
>a conscious betrayal of trust
and the only reason you wouldn't think so is if you were an assmad roastoid.

>>279820277
It is interesting how much people's ideas of good and bad are given by "how close is this to something I might want" rather than "how much good/harm does this actually do?"

People think the pads are worse because it's weirder, i.e. everyone has experience feeling attracted to someone they're not supposed to have sex with because either they or the other person is taken. Most people don't want to fap into used pads. Cheating is a significant betrayal of trust (though he can get fucked if he's really being as much of a shitbag as the chapter implies, in which case she should divorce him, and if she can't find a way to deal with that problem), while the pad thing is just weird and gross.

>>279816949
Lame
Making her fell for him all along removes all the tension from previous chapters. What's the point of being creepy if the girl like it?

>>279819171
She committed a crime by putting a camera in the office bathroom.
He maybe committed a crime by going through her garbage. Idk, IANAL.
The cheating part is not a crime, it just sucks.

Both deserve what's coming to them sweet despair induced sex.

I just want to see how low this manga can get. That's the fun of it.

>>279818395
hahahahahaha my fucking sides. Imagine coming in the middle, and reading THIS chapter, and having the pad thing revealed HERE. This is just too fucking funny.

>>279821141
I wonder if the series will realize that the camera in the bathroom is a crime or will it just be an oversight by the author that is never addressed

>>279821417
Probably not. It would only be relevant if they involved the police or something but the only way this can go is escalating things not resolving them this early.

>>279821417
I am 100% sure it'll be the latter. The camera thing would be enough leverage to get her to fuck off but this isn't that kind of series

>>279815090 (OP)
husband reveal might be a drop for me I hate cheating shit

>>279821417
Yeah, I predict it's an oversight by the author. But also I think that even if the author thought of it things won't develop in the story to where Gomi would think about pulling that card.

>>279819282
He is an abusive control freak.

Caught in 4K

>>279817819
Projectors don't work like that.

>>279821141
He also committed a crime going into the women's restroom.

>>279820693
Female author in the end. It's only okay to be creepy because you did something manly to make them their pussy throb in the first place.

>>279821714
The husband is literally abusing and cheating on her himself. You fags are retarded. Hope you get cucked in the future if you identify with the husband.

>>279815090 (OP)
You'd better link this in the next thread

>>279815090 (OP)
bump
currently reading

>>279817878
thanks for the dump
any news for ch 12 tl?

>>279820693
>What's the point of being creepy if the girl like it?
We already knew she was into it with her facial expression as she watched him sniff her pads.

>>279827001
It's out, dumping

>>279827164

>>279827164
danke

>>279827179

>>279827179
The fuck is that pose?

>>279827192

>>279827216

>>279827234

>>279817846

>>279827252

>>279827368

>>279827381

>>279827396
slave to her biology

>>279827409
shoujo goggles, it's so over for gomi

>>279827440

>>279827440
Been a while since some yandere kino.

>>279827458

>>279827472

>>279827481

>>279827491

>>279827491
>dude lives like this and is crying over having to fuck married pussy

>>279827511

>>279817485
>>279827440
I like that he looks somewhat handsome during Yumezora POV.

>>279827524

>>279827535
his resolve laste 0.2 seconds

corruption kino

>>279827524
>very first thing he does when he gets home is check if it's against the law to fuck a married woman
why are nips like this

>>279827491

>>279827556

>>279827569
hero complex cope

>>279827598
HE SAID THE THING

chapter end

>>279827598
>I WILL FIX HER

>>279827556
That is an impossibly tight miniskirt
You cell if she's shaved it's that tight

>>279827563
It's more like showing why he's a virgin. A guy that is constantly looking for reasons to avoid taking the chance, that's the theme.

>>279827563
He's literally me.

>>279827616
thanks op

Man, I love witnessing this trainwreck

The mangaka is unironically good at paneling

>>279819395
that's based. but I'd figured it out when I saw the artist had works TLed by JUM. when it comes to sussing out trainwrecks any heteronormative person must avoid they are supernatural

>>279827556
"Don't stick your dick in crazy." Haha yeah sure. If she has a body like that it's bye bye.

>>279827198
Next moment he is gonna show his stand

>>279827409
>>279827472
I bet she is a wild fuck.

>>279828764
Nah, She is just all talk.

>>279827252

>>279818365
>Coming back home
>stll didn´t reflect on my actions
Now what?
Anyway, if she was outside the house wasn´t by choice, but because he kicked her.

>>279827616
>I have truly become... the Ori no Naka.
kino

>>279816949
0.0

>>279827616
>title drop included
CINEMATOGRÁFICO
God damn anons, we're in for another wild ride

>>279827368
Sono chi no sadame, Joooooojo

>>279827535
What is he whining about? He is never going to date a normie. She is hot and and a fucked up pervert like he is. He will never have a chance like this.

just do it gomi-san

>>279829722
He will try. The questions is whether he can actually go through or if his virgin insecurities will get the better of him.

>>279829142
> I, JEAN PIERRE POLNAREFF, WILL USE MY STAND FOR RETRIBUTION

>>279827192
>that disgust
Hot

>>279827252

People read this shit?

>>279832970
You need to appreciate bad manga too.

This incel is gonna get his just desserts for being a creepy pervert. He will get what he wants AND what he deserves.

>>279833017
Do I though?

>>279832970
As long it's fun.

>>279832970
It's unironically fun and enjoyable

>>279833331
>>279833557
>fun
huh? I don't understand.

>>279833599
Lurk more and read more manga newfag

>>279833641
what?

>>279827616
>Yumezora-san, I will be become the Ori no Naka...

>>279828844
I mean it's something he could argue in court if he wanted.
But after chapter 11, I wonder if the husband could be in the right... doesn't look like the first time she's done this.

>>279820277
>>279820319
They are both equally bad for different reasons. One is morally wrong and the other is unhygienic.

>>279827491
You are lucky to have a girlfriend at all.

>>279818032
>It's fucking Kurosawa again
no it isn't, at least not until it actually evolves past the unhinged shock factor stuff into a legit redemption story, which honestly doesn't seem to be the case

>>279833331
>>279833557
What can I say, I don't see it.

>>279827440
from a purely artistic perspective and beyond all the surrounding context, if you look at that page in a vacuum, it's actually very kino

>>279816949
>oh it's another "she fell in love because he was ni-
>>279817410
nevermind

>>279817718
It's not a Jap thing, this is a woman thing.

>>279827198
>ouch!

Ah sweet, they're both mentally ill. I think I can guess how it will end from here, no need to follow these threads anymore.

>>279826547
What´s the name of said crime?

>>279827673
He fucked whores at soaplands

>>279833938
The bitch being insane doesn´t mean he can throw her out of the house. Yes, he could argue that, but then she would counterattack with the fact he kicked out of the house.

She fell in love with him because he had strong arms? Why is it always some weird fetish with these women?

>>279834659
>weird

>>279834659
Holy fucking retardation. Watch the fucking chapters that are posted in this same fucking thread before you IQ drops even more.

>>279828660
reasonable

>>279834659
i fall in love with girls all the time because they have beautiful faces or nice hips...

>>279834659
Go be fat somewhere else.

>>279834831
Hasn't she gone on to have a successful cosplay career?

>>279834443
Soaplands don't do d in v, so he still considers himself a virgin.

>>279827216
Comedy gold

>>279834957
No.

>>279834698
>>279834735
>>279834957
>I fell in love with him because he used my pads as a cumrag behind my back
>this makes perfect sense retard

>>279835122
Who are you quoting?

>>279835122
>reading comprehension

>>279826547
It wasn't a woman's restroom, it was a gender neutral restroom.

>>279827616
kino

>>279827458
>>279827472
why not then and there?
she had him at his most vulnerable point. giving him a chance to recover can only backfire

>>279829168
not everyone's an immoral bastard like you /a/nons

>>279835459
Because she is not serious. It’s probably a set-up and she will humiliate him further by introducing his fetish to his co-workers who she already invited and had sex with and they will all laugh at him. She’s lying.

>>279835563
>t. Gomi's low self-esteem

>>279835459
He gave her the "ick" by calling out her infidelity, she needs some time off to get back in the mood, next time he won't screw up because he knows she has blackmail.

>>279834735
Anon, do not skip arm day. Pants will hide your weakass calves, but women notice the arms. The ability to do a princess carry is mandatory.

>>279835655
>next time he won't screw up
He will. It’s just a matter of how. Does he refuse in the end and make her go scorched earth? Or does somebody catch them before, during, or after they do it? She has a short fuse and it’s no wonder her husband treats her like shit. Maybe it turns out he just can’t handle cheating with her after all is said and done and she blows up regardless?

Are you gonna tell me you'd refuse this?

Why are you taking a nutcase's retelling at face value?

>>279827556
That skirt is vacuum sealed onto her.

>>279827616
So to speak

Another one out cam out

>>279836321
Might as well dump the rest.

>>279834408
Trespassing.

>>279837912
Yeah, let's get a dump. I dumped most of 11, but I'll let someone else do this one.

>>279837915
It didn't come out yet, I just edited this page myself

>>279837912
The guy that is doing it is based as fuck

I will do it then

>>279838487

>>279838507

>>279817109
he's a weird pervert but he keeps it to himself. she's actively betraying someone she's supposed to love.

>>279838532

>>279834659
armlet detected

>>279838560

>>279838586

>>279825075

>>279838604
Fag

>>279838641

>>279838669

>>279838604
cute feet

>>279838695

>>279838732

>>279838757

>>279816923
Why do women always have cracked phone screens? Also it made me laugh imagining the husband was watching from afar, telling the truck driver to splash her.

>>279836059
arms, chest, shoulders, are what women look at the most.

>>279838788

>>279838854

>>279838825
they don't take care of their stuff because they usually aren't the ones who paid for it so they have no investment in it. if it breaks, daddy/hubby/cucky will buy her a new one anyway. same reason they never change the oil in their car or clean their apartments, and why they always get useless LibArts degrees.

>>279838881

>>279838560
>I sneak into restrooms to dig up used pads to jack off to them BUT WHATABOUT
bro just accept you're every bit as flawed and fucked up as everyone else is and give the relationship a try, if she's still willing to give you the time of day after finding out you're a gigafreak she's nothing if not desperate for a change, maybe like actually try improving yourself, stop being so god damn disgusting AND offer her a better relationship

>>279838912

>>279838825
I dont know if its supposed to show that she is careless and doesnt want to fix things or if her husband was a dick and her phone got broke because of him

>>279838943

>>279827440
This page is great really shows off how her eyes are the perfect blend of cute and creepy

>>279838972

>>279838825
Women are low intelligent beings and don’t know how to stop dropping/losing their phones or drive right on average.

>>279839002

>>279838922
he likes the idea of human interaction but is terrified of actually interacting with people because real people have their own thoughts and goals and motives. He hates that they might not want the same things he does, and he has to compromise his desires as a result. It's why he isolates himself. It's like an extreme version of individualism.

>>279839038

>>279839063
Last page btw

>>279838732
t. that one anon who keeps trying to rationalize cheating on your partner

>>279838908
uhh women are definitely more into keeping their space clean on average than men.

>>279838922
The interesting thing here is that, despite all of his issues, both the pads and the fear of women/society shit, he's actually pretty good when he's actually interacting with her. He just needs to get out of his own head.

>>279839239
lmao try actually living with modern women
the only reason your grandma meticulously cleaned her house is because grandpa would beat her silly if he came home after working 10 hours on a construction site and found her slacking off.

>>279838669
Unironically one of the few cases where the shadow is right

>having a mental illness competition with your own shadow
KINO

>>279839063
Would be kino if he hit her on the next page, but this is not one of those manga

>>279835122
>this makes perfect sense retard
Since when madness/lunacy makes sense?

>>279839304
The lack of wife and daughter spanking now has become a major problem for society and leads to women like Yumezora

>>279839315
It's just empty justification for being trash.
It's self-righteousness and nothing more.
>thanks to your efforts, you can have sex with [an absolutely mental broad who baits you into exposing yourself, records you in private, and then displays the evidence of your own gross tendencies while proudly declaring that you're both trash with no morals]
What exactly has he won here? Sex with a woman who is way crazier than he thought she was at first?
Yes, he's a creep that steals women's pads, but he could take this experience and learn to improve himself instead of going further along with this madness. The guy has landed himself in an untenable situation that will eventually fall apart the moment Yumezora decides things are no longer going how she'd like them to.

>>279839436
ask yourself what the actual purpose of human existence is, stripped of all pretence and pomp. it's to breed. he has found a womb that will accept his seed, that's all that matters. The correct choice of action is to pump and dump.
>but the kid will have a fucked up life!
doesn't matter. his genes passed on. lifestyle doesn't change genes, that kid will have their own children and all the lifestyle fuckups won't carry over.

>>279839315
.>>279839436

Yeah, the shadow isn't really wrong here. He fucked up, but it ended up going a lot less bad than he thought it would. He doesn't really have that much to lose. He doesn't seem to have any really good friends, he doesn't really care about his job. He's not going to be a fancy or important person. He's not the type that most women would like. But he has an opportunity here. Sometimes you just gotta make the big bet and go for broke.

>>279839436
>he could take this experience and learn to improve himself
ok but have you considered that crazy women are hot?

>>279839436
I wonder if the direction the story is going is that while from the outside Gomi is a creepy weirdo who makes things worse for himself hes not as bad once you really look down at him for any topic that isnt about sex. While Yumezora is the opposite someone who looks cute and clumsy from the outside but her cuteness has lead to bad experiences which has turn her into a worse person deep down

>>279839540
>lifestyle doesn't change genes
Actually it does
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Epigenetics

>>279839733
>doesn't alter DNA
>not inheritable
nothing burger

>>279838972
>bro had a friend all along but was too much of an autist to realize it
Many such cases

Fucking hell I know it’s kinda trashy but I dig this kind of toxic romance like crazy

>>279827563
It's a recurrent them with this author. His last protag was also hyper focused on doing the "proper" socially acceptable thing, which ends up being his undoing.

>>279839786
It is inheritable. We just don’t know the exact degree.
Like, if you have a family history of alcoholism, you are at a higher risk of becoming an alcoholic

>>279839799
The author is actually really good at expressions, paneling and pacing. It's trashy as hell but it's very easy to get invested.

>>279839837
or maybe it's because your bloodline is genetically predisposed towards addictive personalities, which can manifest as alcoholism.
if you beat somebody's mother the kid isn't going to inherit the bruises.

>>279839667
And that's cool, but there's no need for him to rationalize it to himself like that. Be dirt and stick your dick in crazy. It'll be fun, but he can't act like he made the right choices to land himself in a good position. At the very least he could have gone about it smarter so that she wouldn't have leverage over him.

>>279839882
Uh actually a lot of biologists theorize that trauma has a physical impact on your gene expression
https://www.verywellhealth.com/intergenerational-trauma-5191638#:~:text=Intergenerational%20trauma%20is%20the%20theory,gene%20functions%20(epigenetic%20change).

>>279817639
>I'm bad, but you're WORSE!
Oh no, she's doing the woman thing, bros

>>279839799
>>279839867
This manga is pretty much the epitome of “Wow that’s so gross and trashy. What happens next?”
It’s not incompetently made or anything, but it’s like you’re watching a car crash in slow motion.

>>279839925
>theory
I have a theory that the earth is flat and carried on the back of turtle. just as valid as their theory.

>>279839540
Passing on genes is meaningless if you want to go that route because humanity will die out eventually regardless. Your genes won't survive in any truly recognizable form even a couple generations from now. At most there will remain a few traces.
Human experience and the shaping of society is far more valuable than passing on your genes.
>the actual purpose of human existence is, stripped of all pretense and pomp
This is a meaningless statement because humanity is inextricably linked to that "pretense and pomp." It's not going away because we are social creatures who will create pretense for anything. You can't escape it no matter who you are.
Also, notice that she hasn't even expressed any interest in breeding with him. For the time being she just wants to bang. She's infatuated with the idea of him and what his lack of moral character represents. She sees in him a person with no right to demand better of her. She's justifying her own failings by using him. The man she had a fleeting fancy for is also fucked up, so in her mind that justifies her own distortion enough to be bearable.

>>279839620
He thinks a big game to himself about how he doesn't care, but he was very clearly affected by his colleague's care for him. He's the kind of person who wants to think of himself as a loner with no need for society or aspiration, but he can't escape the instinct to appreciate human connection and the desire to be wanted/needed.
Gomi cares more than he lets on, but his will is weak. His resolve crumbled really quickly in both directions. He psyched him up to think going along with Yumezora was a good idea just after putting on airs about how it was wrong and he also became visibly upset after his coworker showed him even just a little bit of kindness and camaraderie.

>>279840055
>Human experience and the shaping of society is far more valuable than passing on your genes.
we live in a society

>>279839799
>>279839867
>>279839977
I lowkey like this genre. It kinda reminds me of Punpun/Aku no Hana. Like you're reading something so foul it's almost like a secret between you and the author. It sounds like shock factor at first, but it actually requires some craft to make the reader engaged

>>279840055
>the sun will explode some day so who cares
why keep living then? just kill yourself already.
>your genes won't exist in a few generations
"I don't understand how genetics work" is easier to say, anon.
>shaping society
and how do you do this? by having children so there is someone to inherit society past one generation.

antinatalism is a mental illness.

>>279815090 (OP)
Trash taste. Married women are hotter.

>>279838487
Does it ever get addressed that the guy's name is Trash?

>>279840055
>Passing on genes is meaningless if you want to go that route because humanity will die out eventually regardless.
Laaaaame. That defeatist thinking is the reason you're no fun in parties. People WILL evolve enough to achieve some kind of immortality.

>>279840055
>she hasn't even expressed any interest in breeding with him
that's not how women work
they just want to have fun and -oops!

>>279834979
The host she fucked also forgave her and ended up becoming extremely popular after the incident making bank as well.
So it worked out for both of them.

>>279840290
>why keep living then? just kill yourself already
You're the one that took such an extreme stance. You're trying to strip the humanity away from the human experience and reduce it to just a game of genetics. Memetic growth is just as important to shaping society. (You) don't need to pass on your specific genes for society to continue. Nothing about what I said was antinatalist. The first sentence of my post was merely following the severity of your own logic.
>"I don't understand how genetics work" is easier to say
Read the following sentence. Your genetic markers may be present, but one or two generations is sufficient to wildly alter or suppress their expression. What good are your passed on genes if they amount to mere genetic filler?

>>279840396
I'm not positing that to be the case. Don't misread my intent. The
>if you want to go that route
is pivotal to my statement here. I believe in the perseverance ingenuity of the human race and fully expect us to achieve great things up until and possible beyond when this dirt ball we call home crumbles to cosmic dust.

>>279840055
play metal gear rising. Its all about genes verus memes

>>279840466
no, you did. your argument against mine was that "society will end eventually anyway, so why care about genes".
the 'human experience' is reproduction. humanity is reproduction. everything we do is towards that end goal, ultimately. You're trying to portray them as separate concepts.
>nothing I said is antinatalist
saying you or I personally not having children "doesn't matter" is definitionally antinatalist. Children have to come from somewhere, they don't just spring up into existence from nothing. they require average people like you and me having kids. You're treating childbirth like a statistical constant rather than something that takes active effort to sustain.
>your kids won't look like you so who cares
antinatalism. It's not about them looking like you or thinking like you, (a false assumption that they won't be, by the way; there are plenty of people out there who are very similar to their ancestors, but I digress) it's about ensuring the continued existence of your culture, your people, and your line of progeny. People who will continue your bloodline. It doesn't matter how "minimal" the genetic marker is, it's there.

>>279840631
Give up anon. You're to low IQ to understand what what you're saying implies.

>>279840690
are you Jewish?

>>279840631
>saying you or I personally not having children "doesn't matter" is definitionally antinatalist. Children have to come from somewhere, they don't just spring up into existence from nothing. they require average people like you and me having kids. You're treating childbirth like a statistical constant rather than something that takes active effort to sustain.
Not them but anti-natalism is the belief that creating new life is unethical. The person you're replying to is just saying it is okay to not have children. These are distinct ideas.

>>279840631
>no, you did
No, I am explicitly telling you that was not my point, which negates any wrongful assumption on your part about my intent. All I did was follow your logic and give an equally extreme answer. It is not my own opinion but merely an example of how unreasonable you were being. The fact you see it as unreasonable but can't see that I was being facetious even when having it spelled out for you is telling.
>humanity is reproduction
No, humanity is a severalfold millennia tale of evolution, innovation, and reshaping the world around us. Reproduction has been part of that, but the solidification or alteration of ideals is also a form of reproduction.
>your kids won't look like you so who cares
This also isn't what I said. A genetic marker is just a marker. The impact we leave on society through our actions will leave a greater impact than your or my genetic markers in someone's 23andMe readout. This isn't just about physical expression of genes. Come a generation or two, your involvement in the shaping of the future generation's ideals will have fallen by the wayside if all you focused on was breeding. You said it yourself that the kid would have a shitty life, and it would be due to negligence and abuse. That is the impact you would leave, and it could have a much stronger impact than those genes you seem to prize so highly.

>>279840827
learn to read between the lines. he's trying to demoralise me (and anyone else reading) into thinking we shouldn't concern ourselves with having children. Why do you reckon he might want that?

>>279840870
answer the question: >>279840773

>>279840974
>answer the question:
He's not me and I didn't bother giving you a (you) because calling a retard a retard isn't a thing unique to kikes.

Lol, anons are Asking the Big Questions in the Ori no Naka thread.

>>279838669
We often post woman moments, this is definitely a man moment.

>>279841066
>multiple posfs trying desperately to make it an argument about individual pleasure-seeking, utter refusal to address my actual points
your nose is showing, Shlomo.

>>279840974
No, I am not Jewish and I wasn't even the person you asked that to.
>he's trying to demoralise me (and anyone else reading) into thinking we shouldn't concern ourselves with having children
That's also not what I'm doing. I'm saying it isn't the ultimate goal of mankind. Having children is important, but it's fine if not everyone does because there are other ways to contribute to society while still holding your head high and maintaining strong moral character. You're just spinning off into conspiratorial territory.
In the end, you're still just making excuses for Gomi to give in to his moral failings and shack up with some chick that is clearly going to drag him down rather than lift him up. Don't try to obfuscate it by detouring into fantastical delusions. It's fine if you want to see someone drag themselves down in fiction, but let's not pretend that he's correct for trying to rationalize it to himself in such a way. This will only harm Gomi in the long run unless he wises up, and seeking out impulsive pleasure with someone who has already proven themselves to be deceptive and rash isn't a great step. He's stepping into a more dangerous situation by entangling himself further in her web of corrupt self-deprecation.

>>279840974
If one random fucker on an Indonesian basketweaving forum saying maybe you shouldn't is enough to dissuade you then maybe you shouldn't
Your genuine belief that there are Zionists wasting their time on said Indonesian basketweaving forum trying to dissuade genetic dead ends indicates it's probably not gonna be an issue in your case anyway

>>279841151
Anon, the initial post was about
>individual pleasure-seeking
and how Gomi was putting up poor justifications for why it was a good idea. Please try to follow the argument.

>>279841179
>This will only harm Gomi in the long run
He's a pathetic excuse for a man. His life is already worthless as is. He might as well try to become a real and fix a hot chick in the process.

>>279841139
If a women moment is being overly emotional to something and ruining a thing that could be saved would a man moment be deciding screw it I already did something bad whats one more thing when you could stop and do the right thing instead.

Clicked on the thread randomly, but he sounds already too deep in the shit to not commit. Might as well make the final leap.

>>279838669
>his literal shadow talking to him
I like that.

>>279840239
>Aku no Hana
Well the author has described Aku no Hana as his main inspiration, and Ori no Naka was recommended by Oshimi

>>279841426
Period cramps vs blue balls

>>279841139
yep, total man moment here.
>>279841426
This, but also just that everything goes out the window when there's an opportunity to have sex with an attractive woman.

>>279839372
some characters sure need a good bitch slap

>>279827616
its... so peak...

>>279836321
>whore
Yes.

>>279827616
Is he jacking off or wiping hes ass?

>>279841416
>worthless
He have actual job and liked by his coworker, that's better than most people.

Place your bets anons, will our boy be able to perform and satisfy?

>>279838922
spoken like a true normalfag piece of shit. you're not wise or insightful, not one bit funny

you're just annoying

>>279839667
ok but have you considered not everyone thinks with their dick and masturbates to porn compulsively?

>>279843043
Obviously not, just look at this >>279836321 She is too horny for him

>>279817819
Bro is a creep and a psychological wreck, but he does have good taste. Pads are inebriating.

>>279840055
this anon gets it. an actual nuanced take for once on this shithole of a board

>>279840412
women aren't a monolith, you dope. you really think there aren't women out there who plan to become pregnant?

fucking idiots

>>279840631
>the 'human experience' is reproduction. humanity is reproduction. everything we do is towards that end goal, ultimately. You're trying to portray them as separate concepts.

if that's the case, then why aren't most people fucking all the time to have babies?
if that's all that the human experience amounts to, why the fuck do people do other things, things that don't lead to sex?

why watch a movie? go reproduce instead
why read a book? go reproduce instead
why have icecream? go reproduce instead
why go eat at a pizzeria? go reproduce instead
why skii, why skate? go fucking reproduce

fucking why do people even have hobbies? why is it so difficult to find someone who proclaims baby-making as what they do for fun?

>>279840773
the /pol/tard reveals himself

>>279820277
Oh yeah, sniffing someone else's trash and a liar married whore openly seducing an unexperienced man and trying to cheat on her husband are equally bad for sure.

>>279841471
>but he sounds already too deep in the shit to not commit. Might as well make the final leap.

like your father when he stuck it in your fat mother's cunt
he drove his dingaling in so deep, your mother's cunt clamped down on it, so he couldn't pull it out
so he had to commit and cum inside. that's how you came about, you little queer

Anyone know if Chapter 13 is the most recent one or if there is another chapter that has yet to be translated out already

>>279843537
>fucking why do people even have hobbies?
No, I'd masturbate.

>>279843816
There's another one after it

>>279843537
This sounds like a hentai where men are captured and have sperm constantly extracted from them.

>>279844316
I can't fucking wait.

>>279843816
14 is out and 15 will be out on the 23rd

why are women like this

>>279845001
because they have no strong men to fix them only weak ones who will take advantage of them

>>279845001
Evolution.

>this entire thread
I love you /a/

>>279827198
It's a sign the mangaka uses posing software. The poses become very recognizable in any manga once you're aware they're using it. I was made aware of it when I was following Kaguya-sama and the author tweeted about it or something, and now I see it everywhere.

>>279845876
I wouldn't trust what aka says all the time he also says weird shit like that the only thing stop authors from doing fetishes they in their books in real life are the laws against them

>>279839979
Epigenetics is as real as """genes""" in terms of evidence.

>>279846009
I mean, he talked about how he draws the manga and mentioned the 3D posing software as one of the many tools he uses. It's also easy to tell with Kaguya because the very early chapters didn't have it and not only the poses themselves, but the entire way the pages and panels are framed is different. Once you have the posing software, it's an easy habit to fall into and you end up with a lot of bland mid-distance shots with mannequin-like figures blocking the screen on a 2D plane, such as >>279827179
>>279827192
>>279815621

Mind you this mangaka is still very mindful about the art of it all, I think of the posing stuff as a way to save time when you're balls deep in weekly schedule crunch hell. Still makes me groan when I see it but I guess that's just me

>>279846279
I just wish he didn't draw most of the characters with such tight fitting clothes, that makes the posing more obvious.

>>279839063
The 2nd coming?

Only on this shithole of a board would you find people seriously arguing life is only about passing on your genes when the only thing they ever fucked was their hand

>>279847865
>when the only thing they ever fucked was their hand
Ahem, some of us have onaholes and sex dolls.

>>279847865
If I came using a dildo in my ass, does it cound as having fucked (actually been fucked I guess) something other than my hand?

>>279818365
>Compared to America where you can just divorce for the hell of it,
but in Breaking Bad Walter had to sign some papers too

>>279849443
Foolish and stupid Anon. In Japan, you have to sign two, maybe even three more papers!

>>279840381
It sounds like trash, it's written differently.

>>279838912
>>279838943
>>279839038
bro is this a chick or a dude? i genuinely cant tell

Chapter 14 is out

>>279850739
It's a feminine man

>>279851860
>that two page spread

Dumping chapter 14

>>279851986

>>279851996

>>279852007

>>279852025

>>279852036

>>279852045

>>279850739
The blonde one? A guy and since he isn't drawn like an ugly bastard I assume he'll be a character later on.

>>279852051
I've never seen so many dicks on a single page before.

>>279852090
Is this really necessary?

>>279852090

>>279852090
Bro has a small fucking dick.

>>279852103

>>279852114

>>279851860
I mean how do you say no after that

>>279852121

>>279852130

>>279850739
He kind of looks like Agawa from Daredemo

>>279852138

>>279852150
Damn

>>279852161
Fuck is that the husband

>>279852161
She is HORNY. I doubt anyone here would refuse her after this.

>>279816949
>instead of saying "It's dangerous" or "You could drown" he starts overexplaining like a sperg

>>279852174
Last page, next chapter tomorrow. He will never be able to satisfy her with that dick.

>>279852174
Yeah id be done for too

Maybe her husband is a Yakuza.

>>279852174
I'd still have moral qualms about the whole "She's married and using blackmail to gain sex", personally.

>>279852191
He won't be able to get hard because he will be nervous lol

>>279852191
Breaking the law, breaking the law
Breaking the law, breaking the law
Nanana nanana nanana, nanana nanana nanana

>>279852237
Or he puts it in but nuts In a few seconds

>>279852268
Usually porn addicts will struggle to get hard when actually having sex, but this guy's been doing it with prostitutes so I don't know.

>>279852292
But he doesn't love prostitutes, that's why he can get hard. He loves Yumezora and that's why he will get nervous and won't get hard.

>>279852090
>I'm bigger
Phew

>>279827564
lol this came to mind immediately

>>279852217
She hasn't used it for blackmail so far, but to convince him he's not in a position to refuse the affair on moral grounds

>>279852191
Anyone here have any experience with landmines?

>>279852090
Absolute kino

>>279852174
The attitude and that outfit would be VERY HARD to refuse

>>279852174
Gross

>>279852090
Based artist.

>>279852174
Women only want one thing

>>279852174
in this pic you can imagine her being flat and that's what makes her hotter

>>279852090
So he didn't fuck a prostitute after all?

>>279852590
>Anyone here have any experience with landmines?
You can spot those who do very quickly based on the posts.

>>279852090
What 3DS game is her jackin it to?

>>279852174
100% slut

>>279852090
>first onahole is clean
>covered in mold next use

Sick

>>279852138
did this retard actually show up to a cheating date with a slut in his work clothes?

>>279852090
what the fuck

>>279827616
was the title drop really necessary

>>279852309
Possibly. But he seems ahegao-ed just from a kiss. They are both "insects" following their impulses so I don't where it's going is that he won't get it up.

>>279852051
>>279852090

>>279852217
She didn't threaten blackmail just made a point that his holier-than-thou moralfagging is limp and hollow.

>>279852090
Unlimited dick works

>>279853475
Title drops are cool and can be really strong moments they have just been ruined by hilarious meme ones from marvel movies

>>279852090
And people wonder why this manga caught on here

>>279852090
The microdick is going to drive the lady right back to her abusive husband.

>>279852090
>>279852174
The manga isn’t afraid to be gross and and actually edgy especially when it comes to sex. I’m thinking that the sex scene itself will end up looking super gross and not be the beautiful thing he’s imagining

>>279851996
yeah....

>>279854334
I doubt he'd think this if she was ugly.

>>279852090
>>279852103
this guy is relatable haha

>>279852138
Why does this grown woman look so bratty

>>279854461
>unhygenic retard with surface holier-than-thou attitude is literally me
It's over for you.

>>279854503
well i've never jerked on a ds before so i got that over him

>>279852090
>that dick size

>>279854215
Except she's already seen it.

>>279853023
Soap lands don't do vagina sex unless you get sneaky with the whore.

>>279852090
That's rough, bro. Even for a jap.

>>279854756
That's the average non-porn size for a jap.

>>279838669
His head is basically a metaphor of an /a/ thread.

She called herself an insect so she's definitely killing this guy at some point.

>>279852090
>switching up your hands
I can only ever fap with my right hand.

>>279817846

>>279815599
The pad sniffer is unironically moralfagging

10 bucks he fucks up the sex by either cumming too fast or having dysfunctional erection.

>>279852090
>heres your laundry
>my bad!
KEK

>>279832970
There's a charm in shitty stories especially if its 'unique' like this one despite its obvious absurdity that takes you out of the story
tl;dr just enjoy the ride

>>279832970
not many media I can relate to 100%

>>279855344
>
Or by being a dicklet. But that much should be obvious. The interesting part is how Yumezora will react to it all.
And I think they will still properly have sex anyway since this has little to do with a crazy relationship story.

>Husband is actually a good honest working guy.
>Turns out this girl has been going around dressed in whore clothes at night to fuck random strangers and his husband recently found out so instead of beating her to an inch of her life he just kicked her out to cool off.


I can't wait for this plot twist. I am sure /a/ will be raging at it.

>>279855733
Will /a/ take the side of the husband? I mean, we should, right? We have principles... at least I do

>>279855793
>/a/
Who cares what the masses thinks. Do what you think is right.

>>279855715
>how Yumezora will react
she'll probably get off from how pathetic he is

>>279855715
She's seen his dick already.

>>279827252
>tags male:humiliation$

>>279852090
So this is NTR where the NTRguy have smaller dick than the husband.

>>279854351
an ugly woman would never fall in love with an ugly guy though

>>279815621
>>279815645
Either her husband is some gigachad who can find another horny big booba thin waste long legs semen demon or he is a limp dick asexual who can't fuck her right and lick her pussy properly.

>>279832970
The first few chapters were kino, but it seems like this author just can't help but shit the bed at some point. He did the same with the manga about the Ojii-san dating a JK.

>>279838604

>>279815645
I bet it will be revealed later on that the husband had valid reasons on why he kicked her out of the house.

>>279856360
Yeah I assume it will be shown that she is a worse person then Gomi

>>279856278
Curious which point do you think that is.

>>279852138
She has the perfect menhera looks in that outfit.

>>279852590
A friend of mine had a landmine gf.
He went from living on his own to having to move back in with his parents.

>>279856278
I just read that one and other than the daughter and mother not getting a more severe comeuppance for being bad people, I'd say things ended well for girl main character.

>>279852138
This could be useful.

>>279855733
Quite possible, honestly. >>279838732 does draw attention to the fact that he doesn't actually know anything about her situation beyond what little she's told him, and he's just trying to rationalize fucking her. Could be foreshadowing.

>>279852138
>>279852174
CV. Nao Touyama

>>279855793
Sizeable portion of /a/ will always take the side of the husband because wahmen are husbands' property or something.

But in this case it is very likely the husband has a good reason to be pissed. She "falls in love" like "an insect" which sounds like more than once while being with her husband, she admits to being awful before she even found out Gomi is a creep and before cheating (with Gomi at least).

It's also possible her husband is an abusive control freak physically pushing her out of their house and not letting her in (which I presume is illegal as fuck unless you're in some third world shithole) and blaming her for being molested and other male attention she gets.

If only an anime of this madness were even possible....

>>279858417
I mean why not. Rapist Healer got anime. Takamine got anime.

>>279846009
>like that the only thing stop authors from doing fetishes they in their books in real life are the laws against them
Believable

>>279852090
is he jacking it flaccid or is my nigga really that small?

>>279852191
>>279852244
not the same song, but it made me think of this.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aetmYIBACeo

>>279858354
Yeah I'm just wondering whether or not we have morals around here...

>>279855793
shan't identify with a cuck

>>279857878
>Harajuku fashion
>Choker

Yep she's a slut and don't go telling otherwise. She might be posting posting photos of her nudes and masturbating online.

>>279815090 (OP)
What about another twist: there is no husband? There are several things that don't.

>>279854309
oh what if she has herpes or a similar social disease

>>279854309
I am sure going to prostitutes wasn't what he imagined either.

this thread shan't die before the next chapter
I will it

>>279826642
Seems like he was beating a cheating whore which is based

>>279852174
As the guy who was arguing about Gomi acting like trash and trying too hard to justify taking this step, I can confidently say that I am also not above this. It may be immoral, but there's no way I'd be able to turn her down.
Crazy chicks are HOT and I bet she grips like a vise.

>>279852090
This manga never fails to deliver.

>>279852090
>that storytelling through all the various backgrounds
>those masturbation toys
>that nintendo ds
Amazing.

>>279852090
>>279864683
>>279852628
Yeah, this really is just complete kino. It shows the passage of time, life going by, always chasing fulfillment of a basic need but never reaching it. the porn mag, porn on the DS, the onahole, the yearbook, doing it outside. All of it feels nice but none of it is what you really need. People go on and on about how men and women are fucked up, and don't know how to deal with each other anymore, and it's all blamed on porn and smartphones and social media and all this shit but none of this is the answer. It's so obvious when you see it; it's staring you in the face when you see it, but somehow it is not something that people really want to look at and face. It all goes down to one question:
Are people having formative sexual experiences at the right time (meaning during puberty) that are good for them?
The answer is, quite simply, no.

>>279852025

dudes on xvideos lol

>>279838757
> Fired for fucking a married coworkers
Why are japanese companies like this

>>279865217
kek I didn't notice

>>279839002
It's hilarious how awkwardly he's sitting. Strong /a/utism vibes

>>279865250
That would happen in America or Europe too. They would officially find some other reason to fire you but it’s not worth the backlash of having you and they would go into self preservation mode

>>279851986
>>279851996
Enlightened

>>279852090
..oh boy

>>279843537
Because people who spout this shit watched reddit and morty and think "Love is just a chemical reaction" is the most profound take ever and they see behind all the veils.

>>279843310
y-you can withstand the stench of pads?

>>279852090
>even the DS

>>279858417
>>279858873
If this got an anime it would easily be AOTY whenever it aired. this shit is fucking kino
But it's never going to happen. Rapist Healer and Takamine are sexual in a fucked up way but they still have lightness in the mood that this doesn't have. Those are still fundamentally escapist. This is kind of the opposite of that. Something this emotionally raw just wouldn't get animated nowadays.

Is it me, or the author is quite bad at drawing characters from the side?

>>279852090
What dimensions are we looking at here?

>>279852090
This has to be one of the greatest manga panels I have ever seen. Im not even trying to exaggerate. This has to be a legendary panel that /a/ should use for years to come

>>279865909
Its too real and deals with to dark a subject matter is that best way to put it yeah. Its like when people say they want darker stories they would get made if you put rape or human trafficking in it

>>279817990
>that's totally just as bad
Yes. Cheating is immoral. Pad sniffing is disgusting.

>>279818365
Also worth noting is that Japan doesn't have unilateral no-fault divorce. Like you said, either both parties have to mutually agree or fault has to be proved by one person. Child support, custody, and inheritance laws are completely different.

>>279864172
>cheating woman bad
>cheating man good

>>279867736
Men aren't very selective, most are very clear that they'd do any woman as long as she's not too ugly/fat.
Women are selective, and most will say they won't fuck a guy only based on looks. Rather, there has to be an "emotional connection" for it to happen.

If we take what men and women themselves say at face of value, it's clear that it's way worse when women cheat since it implies there's an emotional connection that goes beyond simple sexual urges.
The guy who cheats will go back home and still love his girl dearly. The other girl was just an opportunity to have sex.
The girl who cheats will go back home and compare her partner to the other guy. She'll begin to question why her partner isn't as good. Each time she cheats, she'll feel less and less attracted to her original partner, but she stays with him because of financial stability. Some may even keep the cuck around to take care of her illegitimate children.

If a girl cheats on you, she's not just satisfying her sexual urges. She's replacing you. And if she doesn't, it's because she's using you for her own covenience.

>>279839540
>nigger mentality is good

>>279867991
>The guy who cheats will go back home and still love his girl dearly. The other girl was just an opportunity to have sex.
What happens if the side girl's pussy is better? Or if he brings back an STD?

>>279867609
>Yes. Cheating is immoral. Pad sniffing is disgusting.
Those are not the same you retard. Adultery is much worse and you should kys now amoral little freak.

>>279868054
>What happens if the side girl's pussy is better?
Then wife should do kegels.
>Or if he brings back an STD?
Then the guy is irresponsible.

>Amoral atheist scum try to discuss morality ITT
Kek. Fucking retards nothing you say means shit.

>>279868108
>>279868132
>amoral

>>279838908
they're the weaker sex and men run the family unit
that's life.

>>279826642
He was never revealed to be cheating. But what he is doing can probably get him arrested and be cause for divorce even in Japan (the way people describe it).

>>279842517
That wasn't a bitch slap, though. That's a "pull yourself together" slap.

>>279852103
god... this hits right in the kokoro

>>279857484
I don't get the implications.

>>279852174
This scream RED FLAG

>>279826605
Wouldn't you?
Domination is how we got here in the first place

pointless comment that adds nothing to the thread except to make it hit the bump limit faster

>c-cheating is fine since you're also a bad person and muh trauma
Yep, peak woman moment and reddit ass manga, and figures the thread is full of tourist trannies and hambeasts babbling off buzzwords nonstop.

>>279871641

>>279871412
he is too weak for the kino.

>>279871641
you're fitting in great. just wanted to let you know, broski

>>279871952
This is just how people live their lives in general

>>279852090
Imagine how bad the husband must be for the wife to cheat on him with this guy.

seems like the scanlator has caught up so i don't need to make a raw thread anymore

>>279818365
Shit, i guess why NTR is popular with japanese women makes sense now.
At least in theory i can do the most henious shit to my spouse, and as long as there is no evidence, we can't really file for divorce.

>>279826605
Just like an attractive woman can do anything.

>>279852174
Maybe this pulls off the right kind of ntr with pos husband melting down.

>>279852090
literally me

>read slop about a retarded slut
>get mad that it's slop about a retarded slut

>>279852090
no way hes jacking off with 2 fingers

>>279852090
>Jacking off to yearbook photos
Oh man, I used to do that back in the day

>>279820277
I need a dysfunctional harem isekai like this
>first girl is a whore and fucke everyone behind your back
>second girl is collecting your fingernails/hair/urine and uses them to make weird potions
But they all are great party members and like MC self insert dick

>>279852138
>she's also sweating
she will not go along with the sex, will she?

>>279852138
>>279852174
i'll be easily tempted

>>279817878
No he is not.
The guy can't control his sexual urges but the guy also thought you were free

>>279852356
Oh shit you were in the Les mis dump thread. Small board.

This reminds of me of that manga where a salaryman dates a JK despite being married and gets caught. I forgot the name but I read it with /a/ and it was a wild ride as well.

>>279852356
The guy has a 10cm dick anon, I think everyone here is bigger than that.

>>279827623
They fixed each other, I see that as a win win

>>279876431
15 sai blah blah blah. Same author.

When every page is trying to be exciting and shocking, it loses it's power.

>>279852174
The husband telling her to reflect makes much more sense by every chapter.

>>279867991
You poor thing. Go outside for a few years and touch women

Next chapter today. Either fucking like animals in heat or he won't get it up.