What path was the best end for Emiya Shirou?

>FATE
>UBW
>HF

HF, Nasu said as much.

What's the message of Fate?

Only an experienced girl can make him happy

>>279827265 (OP)
>Fate Shirou: Live's a hard life and dies. End's up in Avalon with Saber a literal paradise for all eternity.
>HF Shirou: Despite becoming a doll, he ended being the most human Shirou of all. Lives happily fucking Sakura every day. No longer concerned about being a Hero of Justice.
>UBW: Is going to being in wars and stuff just like Archer did, and Fate Shirou, but he doesn't get to go to Avalon afterwards. He gets Rin, which is nice, but doesn't get a cool payoff like the Fate and HF Shirous do.
HF gets the best normal life, while Fate Shirou gets the best afterlife. UBW Shirou is just kinda boned.

>>279827321
There's a lot of messages. I think the idea that it's not wrong to try and to realize your own worth are messages that have resonated with people and are still conveyed in recent stories today.

>>279827506
>Fate Shirou gets the best afterlife.
Shame it's a glorified retcon.

>>279827506
Him and Rin aren't even a couple in UBW, they break up after Rin graduates. Rin works in SEA and Shirou dies in the middle east.
UBW is the coolest route but has easily the worst ending.

>>279827951
Before realta nua Fate had the worst ending in general.

>>279827951
From what i understand Shirou doesnt actually die in the middle east after UBW, bro still goes of course but cause of the UBW stuff he managed to sidestep that issue. I think.

>>279827265 (OP)
Worst end for Shirou: "NO MOM! I DON'T WANT TO GET A JOB OR DATE!" [smack]

>>279827265 (OP)
Character development happened in UBW

>>279828019
>>279827951
Its been explicitly by Nasu stated that Shirou goes to the middle east and Rin follows him, Shirou does not die in UBW and he does not break up with Rin either. Did you even read the vn?Anyways the best ending for Shirou is HF.

>>279830822
The Rin post ubw phone call in HA is kino

https://youtu.be/9thish4tmk4?si=XewFc8wqmdikkDvu

>>279827285
>every ending is equal.

>>279827506
>being with Rin isn't a good pay off
Try baiting better next time

>>279830987
>UFO adaption has her acting exactly like that in London
lol

>>279827265 (OP)
Best in what way? Because what he wanted was the Fate route and to become a fullblown superhero. What he needed though was a dose of reality and someone to save. Or maybe the best would've been to cope with a halfway compromise as in UBW.

Brainlet here, does Shirou have to die to enter Avalon?

>>279827265 (OP)
The Avalon le Fae route. Dude the ultimate sword.

>>279831519
UBW isn't a "halfway compromise" though.

>>279831575
Presumably yes but its a retcon decades after the original so who knows. Some grand order nonsense could apply and maybe he gets taken in just before he croaks.

>>279831689
UBW is a lowkey bad ending when you think about it

>>279831911
You're trying way too hard.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Aj5u3x28Vfw

THE STRONGEST

>>279827265 (OP)
Heaven's Feel is the canonical route and only one where Shirou gets saved

>>279827506
>he doesn't know
HF is the whole idea.

>>279832101
>>279832058
Favourite Black Sabbath album btw?

>>279832101
>>279832058
>>279827485
>>279827285
"Lmao so true"

>>279831953
Brother what does he get in UBW? Rin following him around to warzones? To end up as a slave to the couterforce again? At least in Fate he goes to the throne of heroes legitimately

>>279827265 (OP)
3rei

>>279832191
How do you feel about Aoko being a kissless huglesss virgin femcel who will never be touched about Soujurou?

>>279832250
by*

>>279827265 (OP)
>best
HF

/thread

>>279832307
>>279832144

>>279832250
rude

Aokosisters... The Rinchads are owning us again...

>>279830822
In other material involving Rin shes working in SEA alone.

>>279832873
Okay but what's your favourite Black Sabbath album?

>>279827970
Nah, Original Fate route ending is great.

>>279832947
BLACK SABBATH BEST HITS remastered 2012 edition

>>279827265 (OP)
Even though Sakura was my least favorite girl I still ended up enjoying the HF ending the best

>>279833039
Original releases only

HF is the worst route because shirou ends up with a whore, fate and ubw are good because shirou doesn't end up with a whore.

>>279827265 (OP)
Miyuverse.

>>279827265 (OP)

>>279833680
Hollow Ataraxia Emiya is cheating

/tmg/schizo ran away... Who's gonna epically bait the Ringods now??? Aokosisters, they're laughing at us and disrespecting her character arc...

>>279827265 (OP)
>Fate
Dominated by shit character (Saber)
>UBW
Rin (speaks for itself)
>HF
Dominated by shit character (Sakura)
Draw your own conclusions but I think it's obvious.

>calling the main heroine of Fate shit
couldn't be me (or Nasu (or Takeuchi))

>>279833680
I prefer Hollow Ataraxia and Emiya Gohan over the chuuni bullshit in FSN or the even bigger bullshit in Apocrypha, Extra and FGO.

>>279827265 (OP)
HF normal

>>279834572
best boy is in HA

>>279827321
Be a Hero of Justice but don't regret it so you can spend the afterlife banging Saber in paradise

>>279827265 (OP)
The one where he loses everything

>>279835716
I don't like him because he is a sandnigger.

>>279836173
Among all the things that weren't his fault, that one was the greatest of them

>>279836232
my precious angra

>>279827265 (OP)

>>279837557
Precious little cinnamon roll laced with creatine and meth

>>279837894
lol, perfect

Sunny Days and it's not even close wtf
Following that, Mind of Steel.

>>279827265 (OP)
Yeah, the answer is Heaven Feel since it's the only one that actually solves the story.

t. Shirou
t. Nasu

>>279827265 (OP)
Fate is the one where he has the potential to shine the brightest. His life will be hard, but he has an eternal star guiding his path. Walking the same path as King Arthur, his life will be short but he may achieve something extraordinary before he dies.
UBW has him tempered by Rin's presence. While he doesn't have a star to guide his path, he has someone by his side through thick and thin. He may be able to go further than Archer did, without falling prey to the same pitfalls.
HF Shirou just settles down with Sakura. He probably won't achieve the same things as the other two, but he'll still lead a fulfilling life in his own way.

Incidentally, Nasu's stated a few times that he can't really imagine Shirou living a long life, so I'd imagine that no matter what path he chooses, he'll probably die before his 40s. Maybe HF's puppet body will fail at some point.

>>279835885
Is this DeShawn, LaDarius, or Tyrone?

>>279827265 (OP)
fate and ubw are by definition fake routes, and the real one is Heaven's Feel, so there's your answer.

>>279827265 (OP)
UBW; Shirou betrays neither himself, nor ones who care bout him.
>>279827285
>Nasu said as much
As Nasu's biggest fan, I say: He is a pretentious retard who constantly contradicts himself.

>>279827285
Sir. Could you kindly take your dewormer meds today?

Favorite sprite in the game? I love the expression in this one.

Are the ufotable anime adaptions worth watching?

>>279841158
UBW and Zero are alright
HF is bad

>>279841132
Same vibe

>>279841132
Takeuchi doesn't do small, pointy noses anymore and it sucks cause this Seiba's the cutest with it

>>279841293
>HF is bad

QRD

>>279840586
Sir, favourite Black Sabbath album now, only originals.

I like the Shirou x Gil route.

>>279841410
Everyone in it is so fucking stupid

>>279841622
Nasu considers it better than his VN route

>>279841622
Yeah, but a few dudes were COOL while being stupid. Like picrel

>>279841132
Rin's face is perfect. I love her too much.

>>279841692
what?

Rider route when???

>>279841410
The director was a huge Sakurafag that removed pretty much everything not related to Sakura, so Kirei, Illya and Rin have their characters utterly butchered and ruined. Entire scenes and sequences are removed, or truncated to the point of unrecognizability.

>>279841293
The finale of the Zero anime is a trainwreck.

>>279841388
Saber’s sprites are all so good. Rereading FSN recently made me realize how cute she is. This sprite while she tried to follow Shirou to school in UBW was great.

>>279841622
>Fate Kotomine uses grailmud against Shirou that keeps failing to take him down instead of just one-hit-kung-fu-ing him
Explain how Fate Kotomine was "smart" doing this compared to HF Kotomine who almost took Shirou down despite Shirou having "armor" there?

>>279841776
I became a Illyafag since I've read the Heavens Feel route. I haven't watched the movies. It sounds like they are something that I wouldn't enjoy that much.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M-_H-puztNI

>>279841831
>The finale of the Zero anime is a trainwreck.

It's been 15 years. They should remake Zero

>>279835885
Sakura was made for NTR

Honest thoughts on Sella and Leysritt?

>>279841911
Their ugly outfits ruin them.

>>279841911
Shirou x Saber > Shirou x Sella > Shirou x Taiga > Shirou x Sakura > Shirou x Illya > Shirou x Leysritt > Shirou x Rider > Shirou x Caster >> Shirou x Rin

Rin is for me

>>279827265 (OP)
Heaven's Feel for sure. He shed the naivete around his ideal, finished the job Kiritsugu started by pushing Kirei's shit in personally and basically ensured Archer can't happen. And all while spending the rest of his days with Sakura, Medusa and occasionally Touko.

>>279841947
Why is Shirou so popular with women

>>279841932
What about them in bikinis?

Why was he outside of the Matou house?

>>279841983
His meat expands to its limits

>>279827321
Being a hero is all about sacrifice, not saving everyone.

HF foreshadowing

>>279841911
Leysritt, despite being a wisp of a person, demonstrates an appreciation for how happy Ilya's human connections make her, and approves of them, making her superior to the stick-in-the-mud Sella.

>>279841947
Awful taste

>>279841911
Leysritt's super cute with her soft voice and broken-up speech pattern. She also wields a massive halberd in F/UC which makes her cool too. Don't care much for Sella sadly
>>279842070
UBW manga seems neat with all the extra scenes. How long is it going to take for it to be finished?

>>279841911
should've demanded to rub her titties as a reward

Why do you want to be a hero?

>>279842312
>should've demanded to rub her titties as a reward

Shirou's a good boy and it's always the female characters that insist that he does it

>>279842347
silly ass beta male
this is why avenger is the best shirou

I'll make it happen, no matter what it takes

>>279842402
>no matter what it takes
>without sacrificing anything along the way
NGMI

>Archer: This illusion was my undoing as well

Drown in your ideals and die

>>279827265 (OP)
>students in london with Rin gf and Luvvia side peace
>dreams are still alive

no doubt

>>279827285
>puppet body
yeah, right

>>279842741
Oh hush, Aozaki's doing just fine.

>>279843087
What would Aoko think of Shirou?

>>279843113
He'd reminder her of all of the worst parts of Soujuurou but made worse by the fact that Shirou CHOOSES to be retarded.

>>279842741
>Luvia
I'd like to see a universe where they end up joining sides. Shirou the Combat Butler, perhaps?

>>279843138
>retarded

Why do people say Shirou is retarded

>>279844083
because they think idealism is retarded

>>279844166
>because they think idealism is retarded

So Shirou is retarded for not having a Defeatist cuck mentality

>>279844304
yes

>>279832250
Deserved, she was a cunt.

>>279832515
>>279844404
How did Aoko go from tsundere to Shiki's life coach?

>>279827265 (OP)
Pretty sure it's Heaven's Feel

>>279844166
Shirou's idealism is canonically retarded

>>279844083
Because he took Kiritsugu's ideal and canonically said "be a meatshield, got it!" to say nothing of him refusing to believe his foster dad was right until Heaven's Feel.

>>279844524
Still waiting for your favourite Black Sabbath album.

>>279827265 (OP)
Prisma Illya Oath Under Snow

>>279845274
Shirou acknowledges that his dream is impossible and that he knows Kiritsugu is right in the very first monologue he has on the subject in the prologue. Cope harder.

>>279844083
he kept doing magic wrong and almost died several times of retardation