Thread 279832767

"Christmas cake" is quite an old expression. It was most popular in the 80's and was already falling out of use by the late 90's. On a Yahoo questions board in 2008, a Japanese user wondered what it means, and was given an answer that it is a dead slang. And yet we, the anons, keep using it to this day.
In a cosmic ironic kind of way, the word "christmas cake" itself has turned into a christmas cake, and we're the only ones willing to eat it in this day and age.

>>279832767 (OP)
it's "post-wall" now.

>>279832798
But you see, "wall" is mostly used for 3DPD. We should have our own words for our own reality.

>>279832820
hag

It's like fogey, innit.

"Moe" is also old as fuck dead slang. Nobody goes "moe moe" for shit anymore.

>>279832920
it's cringe diddy ahh now

>>279832931
sybau abt diddy this diddy that
blud goated a full decade before you was even born lil cuh

>>279832767 (OP)
sometimes the japanese get things wrong
they still call pizza ピザ like a bunch of fucking idiots when ピッツァ is right there in front of them

>>279832767 (OP)
4chan keeps dead phrases alive.
It's site culture, to never let anything go and dwell in yesteryear.
Just look at "based", for example.
The reason it's so prevalent in todays culture is because of this site.
Yes a black rapper invented it, but the site kept it alive until it's eventual resurrection.

>>279833230
"Based" was only good for a few years when we kept it to ourselves. Normalfags ruin everything

>>279832767 (OP)
Slang may age like milk, but every year has a new crop of 25 year old unmarried women, and that's beautiful.

>>279833138
>ッツ
Don't talk to me or my son ever again

>>279832846
"Hag" used to be 3DPD as well. Not only is it now used for 2D but the age for it keeps decreasing over time.

>>279833291
We ARE the normalfags you retard

>>279833704
I say we reintroduce "cougar", but this time it means catgirls old enough to drink.

>>279832767 (OP)
The only people still using it here are millenials and Xers in their 30s and 40s, zoomer don't know any of this shit much less care to use it since they prefer "HAG" or "USED GOODS" and other ironic garbage because they have zero taste.

>>279835557
This anon got his MILF stolen by a DILF

>>279833784
I second this

>>279835557
Used goods does not correspond to christmas cake at all

>>279835848
I concur. I've half-eaten too many cakes before christmas to count.

>>279835848
neither does the word "hag" correspond to woman in her early 20s or very late 10s, yet here we are arguing about dumb shit like this because of ironic shit poster or unironic 3D pedophiles

A lot of internet slang has fallen out of use and been replaced with other words and phrases. Both in the Japanese internet and the international English speaking world.
My favorite example is how "epic" and "fail" have been replaced by "based" and "cringe" to be honest.

>>279837241
Epic cringe guy LIVES

>>279837241
Hell I still remember when people used "fad" for short lived (obviously) internet jokes, think dr house dances videos or whatever, or even simpler the word "joke". Now days everything and everyone is a "meme" for some damn reason.
You could also talk about l33t speak in its entirety but that one dying out isn't a big surprised, it's always been pretty niche anyway.

>>279837418
Makes sense, fad was a pre-existing term co-opted, while meme is exclusively online. Fad was merely born from growing pains of the internet not really having developed its own thing yet and having to adopt existing words, once its own culture developed further it got its own more specific exclusive terminology.

>>279837597
>fad was a pre-existing term co-opted
So was the word "meme", a lot of people probably having first heard of it in MGS2.
>while meme is exclusively online
Now days for sure, not originally, however.
>once its own culture developed further it got its own more specific exclusive terminology.
A FUCK TON of things are still nothing but fads, hence the whole "forced meme" garbage people throw out sometimes. Fad is still a very useful word these days, not everything has to be called a goddamn "meme" all the damn time, even when it isn't anything of the sorts to begin with.
Hell, things got so bad that people started using meme as a personal insult. So instead of going "You're such a joke dude" they use meme instead, it's so stupid.

>>279833230
"based" was funny for a few years but then just became used by newfags to mean upvote. this coincided with when "cringe" was imported from twitter which was downvote.

>>279836843
It originally meant a mythological creature didn't it? Maybe when people began using it as an insult for old people others accused them of being "ironic". Words often shift in meaning.

>>279837670
>So was the word "meme", a lot of people probably having first heard of it in MGS2.
As a Jungian, I laff. Especially at Dawkins fanboys.
There's a pollution pipeline and we need to get more consistent about naming it.
It goes as follows:
banter --> inside joke --> fad --> meme --> shitposting template --> cancer
Related terms:
"image macro" (any of the above in the form of a pic with funny words)
"buzzword" (overused word with no definition)
"kamfbegriff" (idem, but politically motivated, which is grounds for execution) (describes at least a third of all current activity on the 5 biggest boards for the past 10 years) (don't worry, most of them are bots, most bloodshed will be cooling liquid)

>>279837670
Its not in MGS2 at all
I remember when I played it expecting to see the meme scene but it was a lie.

Yes, but I'm saying the word fad is used for events offline, and even pre-internet, meme is used exclusively for online and at the very least post internet events. Yes there's some overlap in their meaning, but they are still different words.

Honestly if there one thing I came to realize about slang is that it almost always has an actual reason for existing. Even if you think two words are the same there's usually a connotation one has that the other doesn't, something that makes one more appropriate to use in a certain context than another, something that makes it either more generalized or more specific. It's pretty interesting

>>279837858
It certainly was one use of the word, but that was REAL long ago to be fair, nothing modern day, at least outside of cultures where this creature exists.
>Words often shift in meaning.
I obviously get that and it's fine, but it's still annoying to see how the meaning of certain things change for whatever reason.
Not related, but reminds me of the usage of "fag" or "faggot", may it be the original meaning or how the brits use it.

>>279837931
>banter --> inside joke --> fad --> meme --> shitposting template --> cancer
I'm not 100% sure 'bout that one, at least for teh first two parts of it. Banter and inside jokes are purely personal, a private matter. Fads and memes meanwhile are very public leaning, if you get what I'm going for here.
>overused word with no definition
While I'm sick of that word, I'm equally sick of all the nu-term bullshit, creating a need of sorts of the term "buzzword". It's all "cancer" as you mentioned.
>kamfbegriff
Not once heard of this one, likely for the better.

>>279838065
>Its not in MGS2 at all
What are you talking about? It's all over the game, especially the ending? Kojimbo himself even describes the game's theme to be "memes", which is pretty clear when looking at the dialogue where they specifically mention and directly use the word.
>meme is used exclusively for online
meme is being used in real life by the same retards that STILL say "lol" out loud in public, in real life context for real life events. The word of the meaning has changed due to this normalization
>almost always has an actual reason for existing
I mean, duh. Every single stereotype has a reason to exist as well, there is always a bit (or a lot) of truth behind every single one of them.
>It's pretty interesting
To be fair, just about anything is interesting, especially on a psychology level (for me). The issue is that a lot of these things can also be extremely annoying if no damaging.

>>279832920
Moè is ded. Why live

>>279838885
As long as cute things live, so will I.

>>279838790
>or how the brits use it.
You're really underestimating how influential America is. Even if we don't use certain American terms everyone is still familiar with them. No one would use faggot for any of its original meanings, it's now just used as an insult for homosexuals here. Something very funny is that the coloured people in London are now calling the police "feds" in imitation of black gangs in America. The UK does not have any law enforcement organization with "federal" (or any variation of that word) in its name. This country is a joke.

>>279839177
The fag thing was just an example, a side topic if you will because I find it curious. America being disgustingly influential is a no brainer, you'd have to be crazy not to realize this.
Plus its funny to call someone a bundle of sticks or cigarette
>coloured people in London are now calling the police "feds"
To be fair London is a giant shit hole. That city is as British these days as Poland is German.
>This country is a joke.
Duh.

>>279833784
Catgirls are dead too.

>>279839495
what about doggirls? are they safe? are they all right?

>>279839427
Oh fag is still used for smoking, sorry for the confusion. But people don't call bundles of sticks faggots or any other meanings it once had.

>>279839495
catgirls became the primary ironic weeb infatuation alongside traps, not much of a loss

>>279839715
>Oh fag is still used for smoking
No worry, no confusion was had. I'm well aware that at least some parts of the UK still use it. A certain Scottish person made that one clear to me.
>people don't call bundles of sticks faggots
Obviously, but that's what makes it amusing. Instead of calling them a fag, just call 'em a bundle of sticks and throw a curveball for funsies.

>>279839797
The trick is to call them a bundle of penises and watch them blush.

>>279839950
Thinking u're a funny motherfucker, don't cha?

>>279839797
In Ireland faggot used to mean a stupid stupid usually man but no one would say that now and it's mostly forgotten

>>279832931
Diddygatari

>>279832920
Moe is timeless because it became its own genre

>>279840043
>stupid stupid
meant to say stupid person

>>279840085
Just say Irishman

>>279840083
This. I often still say "gap-moe" because it just works, hard to explain it in a quick fashion otherwise.

>>279838790
>What are you talking about? It's all over the game, especially the ending? Kojimbo himself even describes the game's theme to be "memes", which is pretty clear when looking at the dialogue where they specifically mention and directly use the word.
you got duped bro
The memes speech and everything is from metal gear rising, which came out in 2013. Maybe in mgs4 too. The word meme is not uttered once in metal gear solid 2. Wasn't a thing at all. I dunno if kojima retroactively applied the word to the game or if he really did have memes in thought when he made it but he didn't tell us it was a meme game at the time.

>>279840128
At least the Irish government isn't trying to ban 4chan like in UK

>>279837720
based is way older than cringe

>>279840546
Doing a quick double check, seems you're right about MGS2. They never mention the word by name, but the whole game is absolutely about the topic or theme of what the word "meme" originally stood for, before the internet absolutely murdered said meaning.
>The term "meme" was coined by Richard Dawkins in his 1976 book "The Selfish Gene", applying natural selection to cultural values and customs, passed (or lost) from one generation to the next (like genes).
>A meme is about what we pass down to the next generation through our culture and history. It could be through music, movies icons, social movements, and the like.
Maybe I my brain "berenstain bears moment" genes into memes, doesn't matter.

>>279840875
Based on what basis? I've been cringing at either words for a decade now.

>>279840875
On here it arrived later but it appears it was a twitter thing long before that

>>279840912
He means cringe used as an antonym for based. It never took a hold on 4chan like based did. It came here first around the covid pandemic.

>>279832767 (OP)
If someone uses it and someone understands it then it's alive.
I love christmas cakes I'll eat them all up.

>>279835557
>zoomer
How did this one catch on here so well? I remember in 2018-2019 anyone saying zoomer doomer coomer etc. on /a/ was ridiculed.

>>279843297
/a/ also used to ridiculed chinese/korean trash and battle shounen

>>279843297
It caught on mainstream, so it probably made its way back here through that route.

>>279843326
Newfag here. Is there a reason why Naruto was outright banned while Bleach is remembered fondly?

>>279843326
Still does? The only people that post chinese animation are diasporas shilling it. Those threads are so unnatural it's pretty laughable.

>>279843583
>Still does?
literally not considering all the fucking dbz latinx, naruto and other generic garbage threads
not to mention fucking isekai and yuri autism

>>279843607
You must have something personal against yuri, since their brand of autism is nowhere near as foul as the rest of the aforementioned groups. They mostly do infighting and don't spill out to other threads.

>>279843607
What's the purpose of all the threads with isekai written in spoiler tags? Why do we have to have them?

>>279843665
I guess they do it so it'd be harder to filter them

>>279843696
But why do they make them though? Why can't it just be anime in general?

>>279843734
Probably because the isekai genre's tropes are what they hold dear, not the anime in general

>>279832798
Depends on how much or how little she's "lived her best life" with wild parties.

In a lot of ways good portion of the 'average' 4chan type weebs are behind the times by Japanese standards. You can find 2ch posts calling some western anime fans 'old fashioned' when they are discussing such things
>>279843665
It's how they mark their definitely-not-a-general

>>279843924
Do they find 4chan quaint?

>>279843963
Have you not seen countless websites and youtube videos translating reddit and our posts to Japanese? This kinda stuff has an audience, particularly when it comes to the silly views westerners hold on anime

>>279844008
I stay away from that sort of content. I don't understand the point of it anyway as you can't know if it's genuine or just made up for the videos. Unlike if you are just browsing 2ch on your own what you'll find are legitimate posts.

>>279837241
Jon Stewart said the words "epic fail" during that comedy bit he did a few weeks ago on Elon Musk's departure from DOGE. I was momentarily horrified when I realised that he, or the aging millenial Hollywood urbanites on his writing team, did not see anything out of place with using the word "epic fail" despite being on Twitter multiple hours a day. You WILL get old and out of touch and not even realise you're scaring the kids with your slightly antiquated mannerisms. Even now I see people here saying "lol" and "lmao" without realizing the zeitgeist has moved on from alphabetical expressions of laughter, they show their age without even realising it.

>>279839617
It seems in your anger, you killed them.

>>279844816
NNNYOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!

>>279832798
different connotation

>>279844762
/a/ has discouraged the usage of things like "lol" "lmao" etc for a long time. This is a general reminder that global rule 6 exists for a reason.
And it should be applied more strictly. Half the posts on this board aren't even grammatically correct.

>>279844868
is lole and wwww allowed

>>279844868
Let's not turn this place into that shithole imageboard smugloli where you get a 24 hour ban if you miss a period or forget to capitalize your sentence.

>>279844868
>Half the posts on this board aren't even grammatically correct.
It's an international board, no fucking shit you're going to have that problem. Fuck, nearly half of the US can barely (properly) read.

>>279845045
If you can't take the time to properly formulate your thoughts, why should anyone care about your argument? Oh wait, there never is an argument, there is only shitposting now. Which is also against the rules, but never enforced.
>>279845109
Why are you defending the retarded? Ban them and improve life for the rest.

>>279832767 (OP)
Average woman in above 4th world countries get married at 30 or so it was always dumb

>>279845145
Your priorities are a tat wonky, and I hope that you're at least a tiny bit aware of that. We have far bigger problem than peoples writing styles...

>>279845193
>...

>>279844762
>zeitgeist has moved on from alphabetical expressions of laughter,
nigger there are no emojis here what else are you supposed to use
no images are not a substitute

>>279845269
Take your meds, we beg you.

>>279845145
I take it you're one of the slimy sniveling subhumans that wanted IDs on every alt board when 4chan was down.

>>279845533
>people asking for IDs everywhere
Gotta love retreaded newfags

>>279845109
So hand out a 24 hour ban every time someone makes a typo or flubs their grammar anyways?
1) It's funny.
2) Third-worlders (including Americans) would be inconvenienced.
3) Quality is inherently valuable.
Don't worry it won't happen, the moderation team is openly known to want to kill every single board. Terrible, off-topic threads are encouraged and protected by janitors and moderators. Don;t bother replying to my post, I've already hidden this thread by the time you get your (You).