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Anonymous
6/20/2025, 9:38:36 PM No.279838143
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Goku is a poorly written character.

>consistently prioritizes fighting strong opponents over protecting others
>he gives senzu beans to enemies like Cell to ensure a fair fight, or lets Moro and others reach their full power
>valuing personal challenge over the safety of loved ones and even the world. A true hero's responsibility is to prevent harm, not court it for sport.

>worldview is simplistic and unchanged over decades: fight stronger enemies, get stronger, repeat. He rarely questions violence, avoids serious introspection, and never meaningfully grapples with the consequences of his actions, unlike characters like Vegeta, who undergo actual moral evolution

>often breaks narrative tension by serving as a deus ex machina. When stakes are high, the story frequently relies on Goku arriving last-minute with a new transformation or technique, rendering othersโ€™ efforts moot

>fails in his roles as a father, husband, and member of society. He abandons family responsibilities, shows little interest in raising Gohan or Goten, and is largely absent from global crises unless they align with his fighting interests

>optimism and desire to fight are unwavering and unquestioned, which can make him emotionally one-dimensional. He rarely experiences internal conflict, and when he does, itโ€™s quickly brushed aside
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Anonymous
6/20/2025, 9:43:24 PM No.279838251
>>279838143 (OP)
I hate this fucking render
Anonymous
6/20/2025, 9:44:10 PM No.279838269
>>279838143 (OP)
Have you finally come to the conclusion that all shonen is poorly written garbage made for little kids?
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Anonymous
6/20/2025, 9:45:57 PM No.279838313
>>279838143 (OP)
tl:dr
OG DB > DBZ
Anonymous
6/20/2025, 9:47:37 PM No.279838348
>>279838143 (OP)
That's not being poorly written, that's being a FIGHTCHAD. A weakling peasant wouldn't understand. For humans and subhumans have always wanted exactly opposite things: We want war, death and destruction recurring eternally; they want "peace", "holidays", and a lot of sleep. We ask for no quarter, and give none; they are constantly begging for handouts and their "equal rights". Even if God wanted to grant everyone's wishes, he simply couldn't, and given that he has to pick a side, it's only natural that he would choose ours over the plebeians'; for as Sabatini points out somewhere, "the gods themselves are all aristocrats".
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Anonymous
6/20/2025, 9:57:49 PM No.279838600
>>279838269
Shonen is not a genre, being made for kids has no effect on writing quality.
Anonymous
6/20/2025, 9:58:51 PM No.279838629
>>279838143 (OP)
Goku is the character who facilitates everyone else's growth.
Anonymous
6/20/2025, 10:00:28 PM No.279838674
sounds like a consistent character to me

he just likes fightin
Anonymous
6/20/2025, 10:04:55 PM No.279838798
>>279838143 (OP)
Nah, he's pretty based and inspiring
Super Goku is a bad flanderized version, tho( the episode with Hit is the only time he actually behaves like the master he's supposed to be )
Anonymous
6/20/2025, 10:07:52 PM No.279838892
>>279838143 (OP)
>fightfag unga bunga that is a shit father, husband and member of society
No wonder certain "individuals" love him so much
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Anonymous
6/20/2025, 10:09:31 PM No.279838939
>>279838892
Yeah he's hilarious, sorry you need to self insert to like characters.
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Anonymous
6/20/2025, 10:09:48 PM No.279838945
come on
come on
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>>279838143 (OP)
>and never meaningfully grapples with the consequences of his actions
>dragonball
Anonymous
6/20/2025, 10:12:25 PM No.279839030
>>279838143 (OP)
you personally disliking a character doesn't mean that they're poorly written. retard.
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Boco !sCZ24qY6KY
6/20/2025, 10:13:29 PM No.279839052
Toriyama never meant for him to be good. He does good things but is not a good person.
Anonymous
6/20/2025, 10:14:32 PM No.279839081
>>279838143 (OP)
>>>consistently prioritizes fighting strong opponents over protecting others
This is actually extremely based. The world is the sandbox of the strong, the rest must live in it.
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Anonymous
6/20/2025, 10:15:52 PM No.279839120
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GOHAN IM GONNA BUST
Anonymous
6/20/2025, 10:18:18 PM No.279839181
I find it fascinating how despite Goku being the template for modern battle shonen protagonists, he actually has very little in common with them.
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Anonymous
6/20/2025, 10:22:32 PM No.279839308
>>279839181
It's just marketing and astroturfing.
Anonymous
6/20/2025, 10:24:06 PM No.279839351
>>279839081
So then stop crying when the US decides to drop trillions of dollars of bombs on another country.
Anonymous
6/20/2025, 10:26:25 PM No.279839403
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Anonymous
6/20/2025, 10:27:10 PM No.279839417
>>279839030
No, but them being one dimensional cardboard cutouts that never grow or learn from their actions and consistently make the same mistakes over and over again that acts contrary to their stated goals, does. Retard.
Anonymous
6/20/2025, 10:35:06 PM No.279839616
>>279838143 (OP)
He's also a kissless cuck and a retard.
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Anonymous
6/20/2025, 10:36:09 PM No.279839639
>>279838348
>AI babble
Boco !sCZ24qY6KY
6/20/2025, 10:38:52 PM No.279839723
>>279839616

Like you wouldn't avoid kissing Chi Chi too.
Anonymous
6/20/2025, 10:44:44 PM No.279839881
>>279838143 (OP)
most of your criticism is just you being mad that Goku doesnโ€™t have the same morals that you do
>valuing personal challenge over the safety of loved ones and even the world. A true hero's responsibility is to prevent harm, not court it for sport.
like who the fuck cares? Go read superman if you want superman
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Anonymous
6/20/2025, 10:53:33 PM No.279840092
>>279838348
I've got a quote for you; "God created men, Colt made them equal."
Anonymous
6/20/2025, 10:55:06 PM No.279840126
>>279839881
>ignores the fact he acts as a deus ex machina
>ignores the fact that he's been a static character from Dragonball all the way up to Super
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Anonymous
6/20/2025, 10:59:10 PM No.279840220
>>279838269
>all shonen is poorly written garbage
Ashita no Joe is shounen and well written
>made for little kids
As is WMT, yet it's very well written
Anonymous
6/20/2025, 11:13:27 PM No.279840541
>>279840126
>ignores the fact he acts as a deus ex machina
yeah but he still needs help from others
>ignores the fact that he's been a static character from Dragonball all the way up to Super
you can't compare the goku from the first arcs to the goku from the buu arc, he is a conplete matured person by that point.
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Anonymous
6/20/2025, 11:14:00 PM No.279840551
>>279840126
Being static doesn't make a character bad
Anonymous
6/20/2025, 11:22:55 PM No.279840757
>>279838939
Melanin rich hands typed this post
Anonymous
6/20/2025, 11:54:06 PM No.279841473
>>279838143 (OP)
His ass is beautiful doe
Anonymous
6/21/2025, 12:09:21 AM No.279841797
>>279838143 (OP)
Is Goku a poorly written character or are you a poor art analyst?
>fails in his roles as a father, husband, and member of society.
He's a character in an action comic book not your dad.
Anonymous
6/21/2025, 12:59:39 AM No.279842895
He bathes in a drum with children.
Fucking awesome
Anonymous
6/21/2025, 1:25:20 AM No.279843380
>>279840541
>goku from dragonball
Naive, oblivious to romance, unconcerned with societal norms, focused entirely on training and fighting.

>goku from buu saga
Naive, oblivious to romance, unconcerned with societal norms, focused entirely on training and fighting.

You can like the action in DBZ all you want, but he's a poorly written character by all metrics. He's nothing more than a power fantasy self-insert, without the depth of better written characters like Tarzan or Conan.