Thread 279860454

Pre-2000's anime thread.

Gundam Wing is such a funny anime.
The writing can be hot garbage, but it happened to be at the right place, at the right time, so it got that international fandom via Cartoon Network.

>>279860545
>Gundam Wing is such a funny anime
Indeed. It also has the best grunt units in my opinion.

It's strange that these threads solely attract people with the worst taste in anime on all of /a/

Currently watching Cyber Team in Akihabara. I'm surprised this is a show for little girls considering all the tits and asses

Currently enjoying lupin 3 p2, very comfy. Part 1 was more consistant in style but this one is funnier.
>>279863116
Nice designs
>>279863846
Every clip and cap I see of this show looks great. Maybe I should watch it soon.

>>279861776
Post some good pre-2000s anime. Or do you even like it?

I really like zambot 3. Very funny how much it glorifies violence although being a show for kids.

I'm currently watching the original Urusei Yatsura series, one episode a day, and I'm really enjoying it. I feel like the beginning was the weakest part, but once they dropped the two-stories-per-episode format, the show found its footing. The characters became more rounded, the jokes started to land, and the animation became more consistent.

>>279864970
Another webm. After I finish it, I’m planning to watch the remake, but I know it won’t hit the same, because Fumi Hirano is the character to me. I love her voice, her accent, and the way she pronounces certain words.

>>279864066
I watched it expecting nothing and now it's my all time personal favorite

Red Baron (1994) is an anime that has something of a cult following in latin america because it got dubbed there. It's okay. Mildly interesting, especially for those outside of latin america.

>>279864309
>glorifies violence
Wait until you reach the human bombs.

>try reading some 70s mango
>the teen protags had no qualms about killing people or threatening them with death
kinda hilarious

>>279860545
RIP!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LtI0Aal3C6w
>Everyone else voice is normal
>This guy
Peak.

>>279864066
Funny last anime I watched was Lupin III: Bye Bye Lady Liberty which I enjoyed a lot, Lupin voice by fucking Bob The Builder in the dub, he does a good job actually lol.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CCsTngOwR1Y

I recently watched the Popolocrois anime and while it was super charming, it was directionless as all hell. Literally nothing really happens the entire time. I really wish they had just done an animated adaptation of the PS1 game.

>>279861776
You look at the catalog and think the thread with the ace o nerae pic attracts the worst taste in all of /a/?

>>279863116
I don't think Cyberteam in Akihabara is actually aimed at little girls. The entire thing feels like it was made for/by magical girl otaku.

Especially towards the climax with the fucking post-Eva psychological/religious shit, constantly quoting the Bible, and references to real world esoteric cults and secret Masonic organizations.
And I vaguely remember one of the villain's deaths being excessively bloody and gorey.

>>279866975
sounds kino

>>279867060
It's... not really that good. The execution's kind off.
The characters and their interactions are really endearing though.

>>279864970
I did the same as you. But I really struggled to keep going with it. Then suddenly about 2/3 into the show, there's one season where everything became crazy good. The writing, the animation, they actually started giving characters development and arcs, etc. Then when that season ended, it just stopped and went back to the old formula. It's very strange. It's like an entirely new team took over the show for just one season. And everything was similar in tone and writing to Beautiful Dreamer.

>>279866975
It's very possible that it wasn't aimed at kids. Since it had some of the people who worked on Nuku Nuku and Nadesico working on it. Those series were okay for kids, but clearly more for teenage/adult otakus. There was also a lot of stuff coming out at this time which was trying to subvert genre norms.

>>279867167
why Leiji Matsumoto liked to self-insert as an ugly bastard so much? Even his self-portrait looks almost exactly like Toshiro

>>279867291
Basically, it's okay to be a lecherous, pervy guy if you're ugly and funny. It makes you seem self deprecating and not a threat.

>>279867291
Why do you care so much
https://desuarchive.org/a/search/text/leiji%20ugly%20self/

>>279866975
>>279867203
I read there was a poll in Animedia about Cyber Team in Akihabara and the result was that most of the audience were women.

>>279867167
>>279867291
>Emeraldas.
I’m looking forward to watching her OVA after I finish Galaxy Express 999. I liked her both in the Captain Harlock series and movie, and in that one episode of Meatel Show.

>>279866975
Japanese shows "for kids" tend to have some of the most controversial content. Kids can talk about sex and show off their junk. But then when the show is aimed at teenagers, suddenly all of that is taboo. And holding hands is deemed too far.

>>279864970
>>279867143
You are both very wrong.
The early episodes are some of the best parts. There's more of a focus on the character of the wreks which gives you great character episodes like Karasu, Yuki, and Ran.
The series gets weak when it starts to follow the main four love square and just lampshades popular events at the time.
The series picks this back up at certain points throughout the series, but the tight ten minute half episode format keeps the plot moving quick, whereas you can really see the twenty minute episodes start to drag when they have no good B-plot.
Furthermore, 2/3rds (or by my estimation, halfway through the series) there's a lull of truly awful episodes. The fox episodes? The cherry blossom play episode? Sakura's dream episode? The motherfucking snow man episode? They are disjointed, long, dry, and not funny at all.
Of course, things get better near the end as Rumiko starts to remember various fun characters she made like Karasu and the JC delinquent space girls.

>>279867491
You can watch her TV special which is an extended ver of the 999 episode, if you haven't

>>279867586
I love Akazukin Chacha but Akazukin Chacha and Cyberteam in Akihabara are not remotely similar in tone or presentation at all.

Akazukin Chacha having an episode depicting drunk babies, or having an episode making fun of crossdressers/"trannies" isn't remotely the same as where Cyberteam in Akihabara went. Cyberteam in Akihabara isn't even "mature" or "controversial", the direction the show goes in is moreso what you'd expect to see out of an edgier shonen, a late night post-Eva TV series, or the numerous word salad techno-babble OVAs that dominated the 90s; As in, a male audience, teenage or adult.

>>279867760
I didn't mean Chacha was pushing the boundaries so much. Though there's a few lewd jokes. Other stuff like Enma-kun or Shin Chan or some post 2000 shows like Mitsudomoe sure did. And these are all shows aimed at kindergartners.

>>279867491
something I noticed is that when a mangaka has a "type" for women he will draw his entire female cast 99% identical

>>279867671
>They are disjointed, long, dry, and not funny at all.
This is how I felt about the early episodes. Many of them felt like fever dreams of disjointed events. Especially the ones where Ataru is taken to another planet or the episodes where they parody folk tales/samurai soap operas (which is like every other episode for a couple seasons).

Having said that, the appeal of the show to a lot of people is the absurdist/off the wall style of humor. And episodes where they purposefully don't have a conclusion. And it's just not my kind of thing. This is why when the show started focusing more on character arcs and more traditional plots for that one season, I really liked it. But I understand why so many fans of the show ended up not liking these episodes and movies like Beautiful Dreamer. I probably would have never watched the show if I had just started the show. But I ended up seeing Beautiful Dreamer first and so I went in hoping for more like that. And I got it. But only sparatically across the show. Like 1-2 episodes every season or so. And then that one season where almost every episode was like it. So of course I liked those ones the most.

>>279867988
With those three characters, at least he had the excuse that they were identical siblings. But yeah, there were a lot of “clones” in Space Cobra. And a lot of asses as well.

When did shojo void eyes go out of style?

>>279866932
Yeah this is pretty dang terrible

>>279868450
They didn't. They just started using them to signify when a shoujo heroine was scared, heartbroken or lost consciousness.

>>279860454 (OP)
How'd they do those little shiny sparkles. I'm wondering if they're cel paint or something else.

>>279868474
Terrible bait.

>>279868450
I have seen some oldschool Godzilla movies where the actresses's eyes look just like that

>>279864309
>glorifies violence
turn on your monitor

>>279868450
Georgie was great. I'm glad we're slowly getting more subbed shoujo.

>>279864309
I think the message might have gone over your head

>>279868712
If I had to guess I'd say probably some reflective glitter

>>279869813
I love the Britishisms in the Bluray subs.

Watched some GPX but got tired of it. Feels kinda repetitive. Will check out oVA later.

>>279869985
Oku rip-off Zambot 3's ending for Gantz

>>279865013
The remake wasn't terrible, although obviously it doesn't compare to the original (and omits all of Oshii's little additions). It does have the upside of adapting some pretty good chapters that were skipped in the original.

>>279865013
That's how I feel about Ataru's voice. I can't watch the remake because it's just not going to work with another voice. It would be like watching Slayers without Megumi Hayashibara (or Masami Suzuki).

>still not subbed
Guess I gotta learn nippon.

>>279871398
Look buddy, we all have fetishes, but sometimes indulging them just ain't worth it.

>>279871490
My fetish is actually the exact opposite (shortstack). I just watched a few episodes of this and it seemed genuinely unique and fun. A flip on most of the stereotypes about relationships. But I need a translation to get more of it. I can only get about 50% of the Japanese I hear.

You ever wonder why some anime get stuck in LaserDisc limbo?

Here's Kero Kero Chime from 1997. A quasi mahou shojo anime based on a manga that was printed on Ribon. Normal boy gets a spell put on him that transforms him into a frog whenever he touches water, then he is transported to an alternative world to meet a frog princess. I can't really say this is a great anime, the animation veers more on the low budget side, but it has such a cute style and nostalgic vibe throughout the entire thing that I found it pleasing to watch. Even the opening is really catchy.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pUIOlntfMDk

But this anime is so obscure. The weirdest thing is that both the anime and manga have been translated thanks to a translation team from 2001. Its funny, there are tons of more popular shoujo anime that haven't gotten any subs to this day, yet this really obscure one did. Unfortunately, the rip they used cut out the title card and end preview, and are not the best quality.

Also, it seems Kero Kero Chime only got a LD release in the late 90s, and there has never been another new release since.

>>279871925
Probably the company just didn't think the LD or manga sold enough to meet their popularity threshold. Many such cases. It's sad, but a reality of the market.

>>279860545
It was the best gundam series to introduce Americans to the franchise, since you didn't have to know any of the UC lore but it's close enough you can start to understand zeon and the earth federation. Lots of action for the boys and handsome boys for the girls. If they'd started with 0079 it would have been a huge flop

>>279871925
>LaserDisc limbo
It could be worse, it could be like Cosmos Pink Shock, which was only released on VHD (a failed format that practically nobody alive nowadays even knows about) and was distributed exclusively through a video magazine called Anime Vision, which only lasted for 12 issues.

>>279872108
Another webm. We are never going to see Micchi in glorious HD.

>>279865013
>>279870933
Speaking of voices: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6_7BfdACITc

>>279872207
He can still do Ataru pretty damn well, which means he could also pull off a good Asuma Shinohara, since their tones are pretty similar. It’s hard to believe he also voices Piccolo. Fumi Hirano still sounds exactly like Lum. Amazing, given their age. Then you have Sean Schemmel, who claims he passed out while recording Daima because of all the screaming he had to do... What a contrast.

>>279872207
Urusei Yatsura has the greatest collection of voice talents in anything ever.
I don't even know what I would consider second place maybe something like Yakuza 5 or Kingdom Hearts 1.

>>279870933
Still one of my favorite anime jokes.
https://youtu.be/OH3gS5sqLDU?si=ZjwbTxKXROo408n7&t=98

>>279872132
>We are never going to see Micchi in glorious HD.
i trust in AI

>>279866847
>I really wish they had just done an animated adaptation of the PS1 game.
Yeah this is what i thought it would be.

>>279860545
Why would you shoot a man after throwing him out of a plane?

Sometimes i'm a oldfag
Sometimes i'm a waifufag
And sometimes i'm a /DBS/ autist

>>279872817
Tomino god tier writing. "Writing"

>>279873576
>Wing
>Tomino

>>279873797
Tomino refers to the type of writing. Excessive melodrama and putting "coolness" ahead of logic and scene composition. The writers for Wing were trying to replicate Tomino's style. Which Tomino had done things just as stupid if not more stupid than what you see in Wing. In some of the Gundam series Tomino "wrote", you'd have a character fall out of a helicopter, blow up in mid air and then run into another helicopter, blowing that up. And it's suppose to look cool, but the storyboards he laid out are such a mess and the animation done so quickly, it comes off as GI Joe silly.

The scenes in Wing are actually toned down and laid out better compared to some of Tomino's stuff.

>>279860454 (OP)
Main series is great but all the Ace wo Nerae OVAs sucked. There, I said it.

>>279873919
Nah, Ace wo Nerae 2 is the best entry in the series by far. It abandoned the goofiness of the first season, the matches are more dynamic and entertaining, and the story about overcoming the death of a loved one is far more compelling than the straightforward underdog tale from the previous story. Now, Final Stage, now that is dogshit. Whoever decided to focus that much on such an irrelevant character like Toudou, while simultaneously reducing Oka to a cheerleader, was a moron.

>>279874150
Also, the OP is great as well.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jAlPzu6qavA

>>279860545
It, like most imported anime in the 1990s, had incredible animation and at least attempted to be about something "mature", which was earth shattering during an era where kids media was dominated by Nickelodeonshit. It was fine for the time, but yeah the writing itself is incredibly cringe and borderline incoherent at times.

>>279860545
The first episodes were fun because of scenes like >>279860694 but then it becomes boring really fast.

>>279860454 (OP)
My mom has watched 9 episodes of Versailles no Bara today.

>>279874604
Sounds like most Gundam series.

>>279874640
>RoV
Man, I miss the threads. Your mom sounds pretty based, btw.

Marco!

>>279875579
I didn't hear about this coming out, is the source an online rip? Why would it have those overlays?

Kino

>>279876047
Can't believe it's getting an official release

>>279875906
It's a rebroadcast of a lost show

>>279868450
I didn't know Coraline and the secret door was based on an old anime.

>>279875579
1979 was even better than I thought

>>279866847
It is pretty nice but it is basically a filler arc. A shame because I like the game story with him growing up as you advance and all the twists. The game is nice but it is a very easy game for kids so you end up enjoying it more for the story and characters than gameplay. The anime cutscenes are really good too, much better than CG.

>>279860694
This is how I see the 90s anime aesthetic.

>>279860545
Is this a good starting point for really getting into Gundam?

>>279878115
Gundam is like Final Fantasy. Both in the style of writing. But also that everyone has a different opinion of where it's best to start, usually the series they started with. And then there's arguments over which timeline is best. And even within those timelines, people will tell you to skip a bunch of them and say some aren't "canon" and so on.

You're almost better to just start with a random one.

Tangentially related to 90s anime I've been listening to Tenchi Muyo Paradise War. Classic Tenchi stuff, I wish Kajishima had more funding to do whatever he wanted.

>>279878162
Point taken, thanks.

>>279876047
I can't take this expression seriously because Tatsuya Endo uses it for Anya in Spy x Family.

Unc

>>279876047
Wut?

bump

>>279878115
Nah, >>279878162 is lying. Everybody agrees that you should start always Gundam in only one of two places. If you appreciate SOUL then start with 0079, and if you're soulless then start with Zeta.

>>279860454 (OP)
I don't know who this is but she looks like Princess Allura/Fala from Voltron/Golion.

>mfw im reading discussion on this scene online
man old anime writing had a lot of nuance. kinda lost with today's audience.

>>279864970
based
1 a day sounds painful though
when I watched it all back in like 2017 I probably watched like 10+ eps a day

>>279872132
We can dream

>>279881575
>Everyone agrees you should start (always (nice typo loser)) start gundam in only two places
>Start with Zeta
who the fuck says that? if you're not starting with 0079 (ew) then there's really only several other entry points I the master of all anime would recommend.
If you just wanna dip your feet:
>G - I actually don't want to watch "Gundam" but I want something really fucking good like Medabots
>0080 - Best UC anything by far.
>Thunderbolt (mild disgust if you start with this though)
>really any of the AUs although SEED or 00 are probably the best "well rounded" ones.

My personal rules:
>Don't watch Turn A until you watched everything cumulative in release date. (fuck you)
>Don't see Zeta without fucking 0079 (also watch the series stupid fucker you're watching a 49 episode and you're planning on skipping 0079 by watching the movies? The fuck's wrong with you dumb bitch)
>Try to watch the other UC entries more on release/chronological order rather than jumping all over the place. 0083/08th MS Team are pretty standalone but Unishit/NT/Hathaway/Doan's Island (fuck you) all require previous knowledge sorta.
>Fuck you don't watch build fighters until you've seen all the gundam shows before it.

>>279867988
It's kind of funny that Cobra himself wears something similar to Barbarella's red suits.

>>279882109
sometimes it's purple

>>279874150
Yeah I'm genuinely surprised that people said Ace O Nerae 2 is bad.
I didn't care really much for the first anime (well no shit it's incomplete, and it's a little too trippy for me. I still find it hilarious that the manga nor the anime remake got a translation. What's even the best way to complete the first series anyways? lmfao the movie?). But AoN2 was pretty grounded and seeing Hiromi's friends refuse to tell her about Coach's death for a little bit was pretty emotional.

>>279882062
Wrong post, wrong answer to the wrong question.
>>Where should I start?
>Well, what you should do is watch this and this and this and this and this and
All that matters is where to START.

>>279882190
ARE YOU FUCKING RETARDED YOU SAID EVERYONE AGREES TO START WITH EITHER 0079 OR ZETA
WHO FUCKING SAID START WITH ZETA FUCK YOU DUMBASS

Does anybody remember this pudding lover princess?

>>279882262
AND BITCH DID YOU NOT FUCKING READ I GAVE SPECIFIC ENTRY POINTS THAT ARE GOOD IF YOU DONT WANT TO DO 0079. IM JUST SAYING THAT YOU SHOULDNT FUCKING WATCH THE LATER ONES WITHOUT THE EARLY UC CONTEXT. IM GOING TO FUCKING AXIS SHOCK YOU

>>279867988
Nothing wrong with liking Barbarella.

>>279867491
Don't forget Maetel Legend/Space Symphony Maetel which is set between Queen Millennia and GE999

>>279882298
>Cobra is male Barbarella
>Samus is female Cobra

which character is male Samus?

>>279882005
>I probably watched like 10+ eps a day
Fucking hell. I'm surprised you didn't hate the show by the time you finished.