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Anonymous No.279877465 >>279879684 >>279879735 >>279879833 >>279879880 >>279880432 >>279880607 >>279881763 >>279882517 >>279883128 >>279883131 >>279883402 >>279884987 >>279885869 >>279887063 >>279887143 >>279888323 >>279888647 >>279890604 >>279891060
isekai and native isekai this season were so fucking bad, please bring back mushoku tensei soon or I'll go insane
Anonymous No.279877662 >>279882944
I liked the gook MT killer shame about the animation.
Anonymous No.279879684
>>279877465 (OP)
battle harems > isekai
Anonymous No.279879735
>>279877465 (OP)
Wistoria 2nd cour should be a good native isekai next season.

The story is kinda bland, but the fights are cool in the 1st cour. The 2nd cour should cover a lot of fights, too.
Anonymous No.279879833 >>279879885 >>279879897 >>279879973 >>279880108
>>279877465 (OP)
>native isekai
imagine trying to force this shitty meme so hard for 2 years already or more
Anonymous No.279879880
>>279877465 (OP)
>native isekai
Anonymous No.279879885 >>279879955
>>279879833
Newfag
Anonymous No.279879897 >>279879955
>>279879833
Get used to it already retard
how long will you keep whining
Anonymous No.279879955
>>279879897
>>279879885
no, fuck off retarded newfags, just because past 2010 /a/ forgot how to gatekeep retards like you doesn't mean I'll approve whatever bullshit you conjure from your netflix anime experience
Anonymous No.279879973 >>279880003 >>279880193
>>279879833
>2 years
lol you just outed yourself as a newfag, newfag.
Anonymous No.279880003
>>279879973
forced shit is forced no matter what you gonna screech about, cope if you must
Anonymous No.279880087
battle iyashikei > battle harem
primitive stone fiction > fantashit
kodomo grooming hentai > incel harem
and in general
manga without images > black and white nonmoving anime > fully illustrated novel
sage > age
Anonymous No.279880108 >>279880193
>>279879833
lmao you're not even from here wikipedia-kun why do you care so much
Anonymous No.279880146 >>279882332
Hokage Tea Time
Anonymous No.279880193 >>279880247
>>279880108
>>279879973
if the supposed newfag is so right then it says a lot about (you), now begone with your native retardness because you're just as new as him, native tourists
Anonymous No.279880247 >>279880309 >>279880338
>>279880193
literally nobody is talking about Slayers since it clearly predates isekai as a genre also stop watching fossil shows nobody cares about wikipedia-kun
Anonymous No.279880309
>>279880247
yes, native-isekai is indeed something called commonly "fantasy", glad you realized it tourist-kun after being told over 9999 times that your forced description is indeed forced, so you're free to call anyone newfag to mask how new and inexperienced you are with petty insults
shitposting still won't make you watch more anime
Anonymous No.279880338
>>279880247
>stop watching fossil shows nobody cares about
It's sunday retard
Anonymous No.279880384
martial isekai
Anonymous No.279880387 >>279880417 >>279880425 >>279880463 >>279880477 >>279880497 >>279881076 >>279885411 >>279885486
When the fuck did fantasy turn in to native isekai.
Anonymous No.279880417 >>279880455 >>279880469 >>279881141
>>279880387
Goblin slayer.
Anonymous No.279880425
>>279880387
it never happened
just tourists/netflix newfags trying to force shit and getting angry when called out
Anonymous No.279880432
>>279877465 (OP)
You're going to make these posts every day to drive more people to hate the series, aren't you
Anonymous No.279880442
I don't care about isekai unless the MC is at least this cute
Anonymous No.279880455 >>279882043
>>279880417
I never noticed it being used back then was it really? Feels like it only became popular around frieien because I started to see it everywhere then.
Anonymous No.279880458
i-sekk-ai
Anonymous No.279880463
>>279880387
It's just fun to see supposed oldfags falling for this silly shit.
Anonymous No.279880469 >>279882043
>>279880417
nah, durning GS people were more focused on mmuh edge than this
the actual overdive with forced meme came with freien and influx of normalfags getting easily baited. Now you have just mentally broken retard trying to force it while also getting assblasted over being TOLD in MT thread several weeks ago so now he tries to shit on anime constantly with these poor threads
tl:dr a buttblasted schizo
Anonymous No.279880477 >>279880568
>>279880387
i didnt think that was what the term was being used for, i thought it meant when it was a shitty fantasy self insert story that was basically a shitty isekai in all but that first episode
Anonymous No.279880497
>>279880387
when Frieren became the most popular anime ever and the retards who based their definition of isekai around reincarnation refused to admit they were wrong
Anonymous No.279880568
>>279880477
yes, all it's referred to is the kind of narou-kei stock fantasy story that makes up the isekai genre except with a main character that is native to the isekai rather than being reincarnated into it, and the only ones who still feign confusion happen to have a stock narou-kei fantasy story such as Frieren as their favorite anime ever
Anonymous No.279880607
>>279877465 (OP)
Teogonia called and said you were a faggot.
Anonymous No.279881076
>>279880387
when narou autthors kept churning out the usual isekai slop even without a japanese MC.
Anonymous No.279881141 >>279882043
>>279880417
It's Frieren dumbass
GS stays closed to the fantasy core with mediaeval theme, Frieren uses magic but with modern food, modern joke, modern everything else, thus 'native isekai'
Anonymous No.279881763 >>279881828
>>279877465 (OP)
>native isekai
>this season were
Retarded person is retarded. More news at 11.
Anonymous No.279881828
>>279881763
>parses a sentence wrong
>is confused by the verb conjugation
most english-fluent native isekai denier
Anonymous No.279882043 >>279882328
>>279880455
>>279880469
>>279881141
Goblin Slayer is 100% when the term was first coined. I remember it. It's trivial to find the very thread where it happened.
https://desuarchive.org/a/thread/176568641/
That said, I feel like the meme died back for a while because the joke got played out until the last few years when fags have started forcing it again.
Anonymous No.279882238 >>279882279
I just want the ecchi era to return, without the overly bright colors and shitty 3d shading
Anonymous No.279882279
>>279882238
Niche. Your shows will always be very Niche. Accept it. It isn't hard.
Anonymous No.279882328 >>279882370
>>279882043
why don't you archiveschizo up some discourse from danmachi and how it is obviously isekai but for not having a japanese protagonist
Anonymous No.279882332
>>279880146
I want to hug Yui
Anonymous No.279882370 >>279882448
>>279882328
I never gave a shit about danmachi, so I don't know about any of that.
Anonymous No.279882448 >>279882586 >>279882998
>>279882370
well if you did and you corrected the record about reincarnation being integral to the definition of isekai back then you wouldn't have to hear zoomers try to save face with their cringe compound terms now
Anonymous No.279882517
>>279877465 (OP)
>native isekai
The "kicked out of the hero's party" shit is so fucking bad. Isekai is generic but those shows are like fucking carbon copies. And they somehow manage to jerk off katanas and rice even more than isekajins do. I'm disappointed in the Japanese people for loving that crap.
Anonymous No.279882586 >>279882762 >>279882998
>>279882448
People have been correcting the retards from the start. It doesn't make a difference because they just see the (you)s and take it as a victory. You can't fix people who are deliberately pretending to be retarded for laughs. That's why the forced meme has persisted to this day.
Anonymous No.279882608 >>279882629 >>279882630
It's kind of sad that people criticied isekai so much when the alternative is so much worse
Anonymous No.279882629
>>279882608
People don't realize how good they have it until they lose it.
Anonymous No.279882630
>>279882608
What's the alternative? Going back to battle harems?
Anonymous No.279882762
>>279882586
the english dictionary publishers took the side of the "isekai means another world from the perspective of the MC not the reader because the MC is literally me" crowd so what can you do
Anonymous No.279882832
battle shounen has is dead and has turned into battle fujos.
you WILL accept isekai and native isekai for battle manga.
Anonymous No.279882944
>>279877662
>gook
It was American and it was never an MT killer. It got the animation deserving of its story.
Anonymous No.279882998 >>279883065 >>279883093
>>279882448
>corrected the record about reincarnation being integral to the definition of isekai back then
look at this retard not knowing what tensei means.
>>279882586
>noooo you can't make up new words that accurately describe the latest japanese WN slop!!! you can only use words made up before 2007 or you're a fucking newfag!!!! wahhh
Why are all the 40 yo losers on /a/ such crybabies?
Anonymous No.279883065
>>279882998
all you have to do is not include the 'native' when talking about non-tensei isekai and you've turned the argument around on the idiots
Anonymous No.279883093
>>279882998
>Why are all the 40 yo losers on /a/ such crybabies?
kinda self-explanatory, no?
Anonymous No.279883128
>>279877465 (OP)
That's not a face a young boy would make. That's a face of a pedophile.
Anonymous No.279883131
>>279877465 (OP)
But MT is also bottom of the barrel garbage.
Anonymous No.279883402 >>279883440
>>279877465 (OP)
I'd rather have a 2nd season of this NI from last week than more MT.
Anonymous No.279883440
>>279883402
>NI
I think Yulishia's just supposed to be tan, not sub-Saharan african
Anonymous No.279884987 >>279885819 >>279886161 >>279888167
>>279877465 (OP)
You're right, and I'd definitely be up for more MT if the anime was actually kino. Too bad I only have the LNs and my imagination now since the anime adaptation is/will be such a letdown. I like MT since it has a great atmosphere and tone for a fantasy anime, so there's no point in watching a fantasy anime that's not fantastical. If the MT anime isn't absolute cinema, it's just gonna end up as depression fuel
MT is one of the few animanga series I care about, the rest I watch just to kill time or my boredom
Anonymous No.279885411 >>279885549 >>279885606
>>279880387
Pic related is the actual case of native isekai.
>MC (the world native) found a book that give some prophecy of the future
>in the book, the MC is killed as a villain and the book protagonist thrive
>MC did everything to avoid that future
>MC found the book protag in real life
>the book protag doesn't act like in the book
>the book protag turn out to be someone from modern world that transmigrated into the body of book protag
>someone was isekai'd that is not the MC
Thus, pic related is native isekai.
Anonymous No.279885486
>>279880387
Anything with an adventure guild, classes and/or skills is native isekai.
Anonymous No.279885549 >>279885620
>>279885411
That's still isekai but told from a local's perspective.
Anonymous No.279885606 >>279885656 >>279885870
>>279885411
it doesn't need to be that elaborate at all to be native isekai, all it needs to be is another world from the reader's perspective and for MC to be native
Anonymous No.279885620
>>279885549
the isekaid character not appeared until after the last 30 chapters of the update (there's like hundred chapter already)
Anonymous No.279885656 >>279885674
>>279885606
I can't think of any other example
Anonymous No.279885674 >>279885715
>>279885656
girumasu
Anonymous No.279885715 >>279885780
>>279885674
I don't remember if there's any isekai character there. I don't watch it lmao
Anonymous No.279885780 >>279885870
>>279885715
that's what I said you didn't need; the world itself is isekai because you're not living there
Anonymous No.279885819 >>279887255
>>279884987
The first season of the anime was pretty good. Second season was kinda meh, although that might be a one-two punch of switching to a worse director and being stuck with adapting the dry ass academy arc.
Anonymous No.279885834 >>279885870 >>279885914 >>279885944 >>279885973
ACKWHUALLY native isekai means that in literal sense.
>native = local
>Isekai = another world
It's a story in another world but the MC is native in that world.
Example:
>Berserk
>Scrapped Princess
>Tears to Tiara
>Louie the Rune Soldier
>Slayers
>Legend of Legendary Heroes
Anonymous No.279885869 >>279885964 >>279888331
>>279877465 (OP)
Can Isekai even be good?
Anonymous No.279885870
>>279885606
>>279885780
>>279885834
This anon is right. That's native isekai.
Anonymous No.279885914 >>279887268
>>279885834
>native isekai = fiction
Wow
Anonymous No.279885944
>>279885834
>literal sense.
A starfish is neither a star nor a fish.
Anonymous No.279885964
>>279885869
Depends.
Native isekai usually had better quality than common isekai.
Anonymous No.279885973
>>279885834
it's better to separate fantasy into pre- and post-narou with the newer series infused with the tropes of familiar of zero fanfiction being called isekai and the older stuff from before then considered trad fantasy
Anonymous No.279886036 >>279886124 >>279886620
so how does one classify isekai again?
There's your usual run of the mill isekai, or the common isekai.
the native isekai.
the regressed isekai.
the tensei isekai.
the transmigrate isekai.

what else?
Anonymous No.279886124
>>279886036
they're all just isekai, it's not like they're targeting specific subgenres except whether or not MC is an isekaijin
Anonymous No.279886161 >>279887507 >>279888167
>>279884987
Considering they're taking their sweet time with Season 3, I have high expectations especially since it covers source material that's almost universally regarded as the peak of the series. I don’t know why people are so pessimistic but it’s true that adaptation wise S2 was inferior to S1.
That said S2 was still better than 90% of the isekai and even non-isekai that have aired since MT. I can barely count on one hand the number of other series, isekai or not, that I’ve genuinely enjoyed since then.
Anonymous No.279886620 >>279886691 >>279886698
>>279886036
Sure I had ChatGPT make a summary because I’m too lazy to write paragraphs:

1. Senki / Naisei Isekai (War and Domestic Affairs Isekai)
Core Themes: Politics, kingdom building, military strategy, governance, infrastructure
Typical Protagonist: Overpowered tactician or administrator with modern knowledge
Tone: Semi-serious to serious, often focused on long-term growth over individual fights
Subgenres:
• Naisei-heavy: Economic reform, modern technology introduction
• Senki-heavy: War campaigns, tactical battles, enemy nations

2. Revenge Wank Isekai
Core Themes: Abuse, betrayal, face-slapping, hyper-violence, edgy justice
Typical Protagonist: Betrayed or humiliated person (often falsely accused), comes back for ultra-violent or humiliating revenge
Tone: Dark, edgy, cathartic, often morally ambiguous or outright trashy (in a self-aware way)
Subgenres:
• Sexual revenge: Often contains heavy NSFW or non-consensual content
• Social revenge: Face-slapping nobles, proving superiority
• Power fantasy revenge: Beating down enemies with overwhelming power

3.3. Tensei Isekai (Reincarnation-based Isekai)

Core Themes: Rebirth with knowledge of past life, gradual power-up, cheat skills
Typical Protagonist: Dead person reincarnated into new world, often retaining memories and sometimes special powers
Tone: Varies widely — from heartwarming to grimdark
Subgenres:

a. Monster Reincarnation

Protagonist is reborn as a non-human (slime, spider, sword, etc.)

Examples:
• Tensei Shitara Slime Datta Ken (That Time I Got Reincarnated as a Slime)
• Kumo Desu ga, Nani ka? (So I’m a Spider, So What?)
• Re:Monster
• Tensei Goblin

Key Features:
• Evolution mechanics
• Ecosystem survival and monster politics
• Often RPG-style systems
b. Baby / Child Reincarnation

Reborn as a baby or child and grow up with knowledge of prior life
Key Features:
• Early mastery of skills
• Child prodigy narrative
Deep character introspection possible
Anonymous No.279886691
>>279886620
>Senki / Naisei Isekai (War and Domestic Affairs Isekai)
Huh I knew an example of this.
The Highserk Senki.
Anonymous No.279886698 >>279886751
>>279886620
4. Ten’i Isekai (Summoning / Transportation Isekai)

Core Themes: Summoned/transferred to another world, often without death or reincarnation
Typical Protagonist: Modern-day student or adult, summoned by a kingdom or divine being
Tone: Varies — from standard fantasy action to edgy power fantasy or comedy

Main Variants:



a. Class Transfer Isekai

Whole class (or large group) is summoned or transported together. Often features hierarchy, bullying, or class-based survival drama.
Key Tropes:
• Protagonist is usually weakest at first, then becomes OP
• Betrayal and social politics
• Classmates often become enemies or side characters
• Sometimes leads into revenge isekai



b. Solo Transfer Isekai

Only the protagonist is transferred to the new world. May be summoned as a hero, or transported by truck accident/god/prank.
Key Tropes:
• God/goddess intervention
• Often granted cheat abilities
• May evolve into naisei or senki later
Anonymous No.279886751 >>279886834
>>279886698
5. Nariagari Isekai (Rise-to-Power)

Core Themes: Start from zero (or worse), climb to greatness through skill, power, or manipulation
Typical Protagonist: Underdog, outcast, weakling, or antihero; might be hardworking or cheat-powered
Tone: Can range from inspirational to dark power fantasy
Subtypes:
• Hard Work Nariagari: Skill-focused rise (e.g. Mushoku Tensei)
• Cheat Power Nariagari: Instantly OP, but still builds influence (e.g. Isekai Smartphone)
• Villain to Hero: Starts as enemy or villain role and redeems or rewrites destiny (e.g. Hamefura)
• From Discarded to King: Often overlaps with revenge isekai; thrown away, comes back stronger (e.g. Arifureta, Shield Hero)
Anonymous No.279886834 >>279886904
>>279886751
Villainess Isekai (a.k.a. Akuyaku Reijou Isekai)

Core Themes:
Protagonist is reincarnated or transferred into the body of a villainess (typically in an otome game or noble society setting) and must avoid ruin or death flags, often by subverting her expected “evil” role.

Typical Protagonist:
A modern-day woman (often a shoujo otaku or office worker) who retains her knowledge of the story/game world.
She is often clever, socially adept (or comedically not), and uses her knowledge to alter her fate.

Tone:
• Lighthearted / Romantic Comedy is the norm
• Increasing number of drama-heavy, political intrigue, and dark psychological entries



Key Tropes and Themes:
• Otome game world or fantasy noble society
• Doom flags (exile, execution, bad ending)
• Rewriting one’s fate
• Female-centered perspective
• Romance with the “original capture targets” or unexpected characters
• Reverse harem or subverted romance dynamics
• Social climbing / Reputation repair / Empire-building arcs



Subgenres of Villainess Isekai:

a. Comedic / Lighthearted Otome Rebirth
• My Next Life as a Villainess: All Routes Lead to Doom! (Hamefura)
• The Villainess Wants to Marry a Commoner!!
• Accomplishments of the Duke’s Daughter (Koushaku Reijou no Tashinami)
• Beware the Villainess! (Korean manhwa with strong satire)

b. Dark / Tragic Villainess Reincarnation
• I’m the Villainess, So I’m Taming the Final Boss (tragic heroine becomes cunning villainess)
• The Way to Protect the Female Lead’s Older Brother (dark romance)
• The Abandoned Empress
• I Swear I Won’t Bother You Again! (resetting life to avoid suffering)

c. Scheming & Politicking Villainess
• The Duke’s Daughter is the Knight Commander (court power struggles)
• Tearmoon Empire Story (time loop + empire reform)
• The Villainess Is a Marionette
• The Villainess Turns the Hourglass (revenge + cunning)
Anonymous No.279886904 >>279886928
>>279886834
7. Kicked from the Hero Party Isekai (追放系 / Tsuihō-kei Isekai)

Core Themes:
The protagonist is expelled, betrayed, or deemed useless by a hero’s party or noble society, only to later reveal their true value, become OP, or build a better life elsewhere.
This is a revenge-adjacent, nariagari-infused subgenre rooted in social rejection and eventual catharsis.

Tone:
• Often vindictive, bittersweet, or healing
• May focus on slow life, redemption, or violent revenge, depending on the work



Typical Protagonist:
• “Support-type” (healer, strategist, logistician) seen as weak
• Wrongly blamed or scapegoated by arrogant hero/nobles
• Discovers hidden potential or cheat ability after expulsion
• Often emotionally repressed or deeply betrayed
• Common to form a new, more wholesome party (or harem)



Key Tropes and Structure:
1. Expulsion Scene: Hero party or kingdom kicks them out unjustly
2. New Life Begins: They seek quiet life or aim to get stronger
3. Revelation: Their “useless” power is actually broken or god-tier
4. Vindication: Old party suffers without them or comes crawling back
5. Optional Revenge: The MC may forgive or destroy them



Common Themes & Subtypes:

a. Slow Life after Betrayal
• MC moves to countryside or remote area and lives peacefully
• Focuses on healing, self-worth, community, slice-of-life

Examples:
• Banished from the Hero’s Party, I Decided to Live a Quiet Life in the Countryside
• Shin no Nakama ja Nai to Yuusha no Party wo Oidasareta node, Henkyou de Slow Life suru Koto ni Shimashita
• Seijo no Maryoku wa Bannou desu (similar tone, though not a kicked-out story)
Anonymous No.279886928 >>279886992
>>279886904


b. Revenge / Redemption Arc Kicked Out
• MC gets strong and confronts former comrades
• “You called me useless? Watch this.”
• Might include face-slapping scenes, kingdom conquest, or revenge

Examples:
• Shikkaku Mon no Saikyou Kenja
• Tsuihou Sareta Yuusha wa Level 1 ni Natteshimatta ga, Jitsu wa Saikyou ni Tsunagatteita
• The World’s Strongest Rearguard
• Kaiko sareta Ankoku Heishi (30-dai) no Slow na Second Life



c. Cheat Skill Awakening Post-Expulsion
• MC has hidden or misunderstood power that awakens after betrayal
• They grind alone and evolve far beyond their peers

Examples:
• Tsuihou Sareta Kusa Healer, Saikyou ni naru
• I Got a Cheat Skill in Another World and Became Unrivaled in the Real World, Too
• Lv2 kara Cheat datta Motoyuusha Kouho no Mattari Isekai Life



d. Logistics / Support Mastery
• MC was a “burden” support but turns out to be the strategic backbone
• Often ends up building cities, supply chains, or supporting new heroes

Examples:
• The Great Cleric
• Chillin’ in Another World with Level 2 Super Cheat Powers
• Leadale no Daichi nite (not direct expulsion, but similar loner dynamic)



Overlap With Other Genres:
• Revenge Isekai: If MC retaliates
• Naisei / Domestic Affairs: If MC builds a town/business
• Nariagari: Always includes rise-to-power arc
• Healing / Iyashikei: In slow-life routes
Anonymous No.279886992 >>279887043
>>279886928
8. Reverse Isekai (異世界から現実へ / Isekai kaeri)

Core Theme:
A fantasy or game-world character is transported to modern-day Earth.
Flips the usual dynamic—fantasy meets reality.

Tone:
Often comedic or heartfelt, but can be dark or satirical.

Examples:
• Re:Creators
• Isekai Ojisan (Uncle from Another World)
• Gate: Jieitai Kanochi nite, Kaku Tatakaeri (partial)
• Hataraku Maou-sama! (The Devil is a Part-Timer!)
• Jashin-chan Dropkick (partial reverse isekai)

Common Tropes:
• Culture shock
• “Fantasy person gets a job”
• Reflections on modern life from magical perspectives
Anonymous No.279887043 >>279887113
>>279886992
9. Villager Isekai / Mob Character Isekai

Core Theme:
The MC is not a hero or chosen one, but a background character (villager, merchant, mob, etc.)
Themes:
• Anti-chosen one narrative
• Self-made success
• Satire of standard power fantasy
10. Slice-of-Life / Healing Isekai (Iyashikei Isekai)

Core Theme:
Focuses on peaceful, mundane, or heartwarming elements of life in another world.

Examples:
• Farming Life in Another World
• Campfire Cooking in Another World with My Absurd Skill
• Isekai Nonbiri Nouka
• Restaurant to Another World
• By the Grace of the Gods

Tropes:
• Cooking, gardening, running a shop
• Low stakes and comfy vibes
• Wholesome side characters
• Very little combat
Anonymous No.279887063
>>279877465 (OP)
After watching MT it becomes immediately obvious how many isekai shamelessly rip off MT
Anonymous No.279887113 >>279887365
>>279887043
11. Culinary Isekai / Food-Focused Isekai

Core Theme:
MC brings modern cuisine (and often seasoning) to a fantasy world.

Examples:
• Isekai Izakaya “Nobu”
• Restaurant to Another World
• Campfire Cooking in Another World
• Cooking with Wild Game

Tropes:
• Food as diplomacy
• Fantasy monsters turned into gourmet dishes
• Reactions to onions sauce or miso = peak comedy
Anonymous No.279887143
>>279877465 (OP)
>native isekai
I liked the country bumpkin swordmaster.
Anonymous No.279887255
>>279885819
Season 1 was the definition of a passion project. I thought every season was supposed to be. But then the studio that was literally created just to adapt Mushoku Tensei put a ton of time and resources into garbage homo genderbend manga adaptation and season 2 suffered heavily for it. I pretty much have zero faith we'll ever reach the quality of season 1 again just in terms of animation and production.
Anonymous No.279887268
>>279885914
Not all fiction takes place on a literal different world.
Anonymous No.279887365
>>279887113
Anyhow that covers some of it but you get the gist oh and also:

26. Science Fiction / Space Isekai/Post Apocalyptic

Rebuild World
I’m the Evil Lord of an Intergalactic Empire!
etc
Anonymous No.279887507
>>279886161
Ya I think there is almost universal agreement that S2 was inferior to S1 even on technical matters like animation and pacing, storytelling, and such. BUT, despite this I agree that S2 is still better than 99% of other isekai trash out there. The first half of S2 is a pretty excellent continuation from the emotional ride at the end of S1 and follows it up well, it's just a shame that the conclusion of that arc of fucking ED of all things which leads into the most boring arc ever where Rudy legit cannot tell that Fritz is his childhood friend despite her looking the exact same, talking the same, and having the same mannerism
Anonymous No.279888056
There’s a new sloppa sheriff in town, his name is daken. The king of native isekai.
Nips are going crazy over his stuff especially: who killed the hero.
Anonymous No.279888167
>>279884987
>>279886161
Every "leak" I've read about it on twitter makes me less and less hopeful
Anonymous No.279888212
Does anyone else know of Isekai where the protagonist gets to fuck people as a shota?
Anonymous No.279888323
>>279877465 (OP)
Just go insane then.
Anonymous No.279888331
>>279885869
Yes.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ru21bZ3B8KY
Anonymous No.279888647
>>279877465 (OP)
"People" aren't ready for next season
Anonymous No.279889055 >>279889699 >>279890000
>The MTgooner got cucked out of another circlejerk
Feels good
Anonymous No.279889699 >>279889824 >>279889878
>>279889055
>literally everyone agrees that MT is best isekai
>this means MTchads lost or something
lol
Anonymous No.279889824 >>279890179 >>279890350
>>279889699
>MT is best isekai
Debatable, and even then that just means that MT is just a shiny piece of shit in the mountain of shit that is isekai.
Anonymous No.279889878 >>279890210
>>279889699
>MT is best isekai
Frieren is better
another reason for weirdos to want to deny native isekai
Anonymous No.279890000
>>279889055
>gooner
Kill yourself, retarded tourist.
Anonymous No.279890179
>>279889824
More like a gold bar sitting in a scrap iron pile.
Anonymous No.279890210
>>279889878
>Frieren is better
at what?
Anonymous No.279890350 >>279890419 >>279893213
>>279889824
Its pretty much universally agreed albeithoughever isekai only exists because of MT, if something surpasses MT a new genre will begin but so far nothing has managed to surpass MT and it reigns as king.
Anonymous No.279890419 >>279890508
>>279890350
>isekai only exists because of MT
what is this revisionism? are you sure this series is good on its own merits and isn't being propped up by lolifags?
Anonymous No.279890508 >>279890917 >>279893213
>>279890419
modern isekai genre only exists because of Mushoku Tensei yes I'm not just saying MT is influential I'm saying it created the template, and without it, isekai as we know it would not exist. Re:Monster? Not even a template a crude mockery.
MT's release on Shōsetsuka ni Narō triggered a chain reaction, it became the most read, upvoted, and discussed story on the platform.
Narō authors directly cite MT as their reason for writing yes even Tensei Shitara Slime Datta Ken’s author said this publicly.
Ave MT.
Anonymous No.279890570
I still remember when you retards tried to say Frieren is a native isekai because Fern said thief instead of a rogue.
Anonymous No.279890604
>>279877465 (OP)
>native isekai
Is that the rumored reddit slang I keep hearing about?
Anonymous No.279890917 >>279891113
>>279890508
>started way later than everyone else
>takes credit for innovations that were well established in less popular franchises
>is cited as an influence by all the worst authors to start out since
MT is the Beatles of isekai
Anonymous No.279891060
>>279877465 (OP)
mushoku tensei is deranged coomer shit
Anonymous No.279891113 >>279891144 >>279891234
>>279890917
indeed
Anonymous No.279891144 >>279891234
>>279891113
Except for the fact that all the credit goes to MT.
Anonymous No.279891234 >>279891392
>>279891113
>>279891144
lmaoing at those authors responsible for those abominations
Anonymous No.279891341 >>279892248
MT is hot garbage harem slop.
>but I want my waifu to be happy
>and my self insert should be the one fucking her not being cucked
Sounds like you've never lived in the real world.
Anonymous No.279891376
I dont take anyone series that use *something I hate*slop in their statements and arguments.
Anonymous No.279891392 >>279891484
>>279891234
Yet you consume them, thus only way to stop them is write a better story than MT yet for now it seems impossible for anyone.
Anonymous No.279891484
>>279891392
I basically only watch native isekai and only show up for an isekaijin MC if it's outside the standard formula like a villainess
Anonymous No.279892248 >>279892438 >>279893113
>>279891341
keep seething MT already won
Anonymous No.279892438
>>279892248
lmao, if you tried firing that the turbulence at the muzzle would have most of those pellets flying back in your face
Anonymous No.279893113
>>279892248
I want to see all the thing that involves this meme animated... How much do you think we will have to wait until that?
Anonymous No.279893213
>>279890350
>isekai only exists because of MT
>>279890508
>modern isekai genre only exists because of Mushoku Tensei
I believe you mean Zero no Tsukaima, also why would you even want credit for creating the modern isekai genre in the first place? It's mostly cancer.
Anonymous No.279893823
Pedotensei is a fucking slop, LotM will show you what good isekai is