Thread 279921928

>Berserk is a gay story! It's about a man who desires another man and cannot admit it
>a megalomaniac narcissist rapist is homosexually attracted to the hero, the hero likes pussy and doesn't rape people
Do homosexual self inserters hear themselves speak? Are they retarded? Berserk is super homophobic.

griffith was gay for guts tho

>>279921989
yes, and he's literally satan

>>279921928 (OP)
Sorry anon, but do you have schizophrenia? Are you bipolar maybe?
Because this post reads as something written by two people throwing shit to each other.

>>279921928 (OP)
Homos themselves are homophobic. Look at how they always throw around "gay" as a means of insulting straight people.

>>279921928 (OP)
Yeah, the story focusing on the man with the biggest, girthiest sword in the world is totally straight. There's nothing at all gay about how he forcibly penetrates big, ugly monsters with it. The way he loses control and starts thrusting and swinging his enormous iron rod around like a wild beast is the straightest thing in the world. His close friendship with a tiny little twink is perfectly normal with no undertones at all. Anyone who says that Berserk might be even a little bit gay clearly doesn't know what they're talking about. Berserk is STRAIGHT and so am I.

>>279922707
This. They love to insinuate you are gay as a way of shaming you. If I shamed gays as much as gays shamed gays I would be called a bigot.

>>279922707
nigga u gay

>>279922950
>surrounded by hundreds of buff men
>fucks the one woman in the camp
I love how you gays cannot see a single object of any length without going wild with just. How else is he suppose to kill them? With some spherical object? Anything that doesn't look like a dick?

>>279923589
An axe would be cool.

>>279921928 (OP)
Berserk is gay because Casca is a tomboy

>>279923589
Thanks for admitting that you missed the point. Pulpish fantasy stories about big strong men violently dominating other men and monsters are inherently homoerotic. The fact that this particular story makes a specific point to highlight just how big, thick, rough and heavy Guts' sword is is about as subtle as a brick to the face. People who write this sort of ridiculously over-the-top macho nonsense are not well-adjusted heterosexuals. Miura in particular was a lifelong bachelor, had an extremely close "friendship" with Mori, and was well known as being at least slightly perverse, even by mangaka standards. He's the modern day Robert E. Howard, in many ways.

>>279923918
>had an extremely close "friendship" with Mori
Is Mori Griffith because he's fucking Miura's legacy

>>279921928 (OP)
the homolust is entirely one-sided. guts saw griffith as an admirable man and worthy of friendship since he's a naturally good individual griffith wants to claim guts because he's a violent narcissist, thus homosexual.

>>279923918
>fantasy stories about big strong men violently dominating other men and monsters are inherently homoerotic.
>it's the "99% of society/culture is actually gay and repressing it" argument

>>279924339
Most fiction isn't about big strong warriors and their phallic adventures. Most people have never read Berserk, or Conan the Barbarian, or anything of the sort. This is an extremely niche interest that's mostly enjoyed by a certain subset of teenage boys and young men, who are drawn to the surface-level masculinity and the carnage, but lack the maturity, healthy role models, and media literacy to understand how warped and homoerotic it is.

>>279924586
Not that anon but if you really believe Guts's sword is supposed to be homoerotic you need to look yourself in the mirror. Maybe you already have. But whether you're homo or not it's an extremely fucking stupid take in any case.

>Miura in particular was a lifelong bachelor, had an extremely close "friendship" with Mori
Miura considered Casca his type of girl when he wrote her. By his own admition. And you don't know whether he was actually a bachelor, since he kept his life extremely private. No, he was not homo. Stop projecting everything to yourself.

>[made-up bullshit]
Is OP fucking retarded or something? Who the fuck is he arguing with?

>>279924805
If you really believe there's no homosexual undertones in Berserk then never mind looking in the mirror, because you're clearly blind. Are you the sort of guy who thinks the Joker is cool and misunderstood?

>>279924586
you wrote
>fantasy stories about big strong men violently dominating other men and monsters are inherently homoerotic.
i know you grew up in the tranny feminist age but stories about "men dominating each other" and having friendships and complicated relationships amongst each other are in fact the majority of not only fiction but historical nonfiction stories

>>279924975
>If you really believe there's no homosexual undertones in Berserk
That's not what i've said. You were talking about the sword specifically being a gay element (kek), which is fucking ridiculous.

Look, anon. If you want to vent off your homo urges there are plenty of gay stories and hentai online. Don't just expect, however, to impose your VERY subjective views on other people, pretending they posses even the slightest degree of objectivity.

>>279925001
You're completely wrong and betray your ignorance of contemporary and historical literature. There is no deep and broad historical tradition of pulp fantasy featuring superhuman sword-wielders.
>>279925215
Swords are some of the most potent phallic symbols known to man superseding even the ancient cudgel, and the sword in Berserk is practically its own character. Either you're being deliberately obtuse or you're completely ignorant of symbolism and subtext, and have spent your entire life taking everything at face value.

>>279925319
>swords are gay phallic symbols
>guns are gay phallic symbols
>monsters are gay phallic symbols
>men "dominating each other" is inherently gay phallic symbolism
yeah ok you're definitely not just a faggot traumatized by the culture he's surrounded by and projecting onto anime stories as a result

>>279921928 (OP)
It's gay because he gets raped as a child by an adult man
every homo can identify with that

>>279925441
All fiction that's aggressively masculine is deeply and unquestionably homoerotic, because it stems from the author's lack of confidence in his own masculinity and his desire to be accepted into the fraternity. Fiction like this therefore appeals mostly to young men, typically those who already have a selection of nerdy or unpopular interests that make them feel outcast and unmanly. There's a very good reason that stories like Berserk aren't popular in the mainstream, but form a niche interest within another niche interest.

>>279925599
>All fiction that's aggressively masculine is deeply and unquestionably homoerotic
>...Because I like men

>>279925599
>my faggot fantasies are fact, chuddie! subscribe to my narrative!
No, I don't think I will.

>>279922707
i like calling straight people "faggots" because they get all huffy about it. its even better if they're afraid to say it back lol

>>279925466
there's 2 gay rape instances in this shit and the projecting homo in the thread is trying to say it's gay because of swords and muh masculinity, like why not because of the gay rape and the fact that griffith looks like a tranny

>>279921928 (OP)
Berserk is both extremely gay and extremely homophobic. Miura said that he wanted to show how damaged dudes are attracted to same sex relationships, and most people assumed that statement was about Guts, but it's about Griffith. He's a deeply repressed homosexual and closet gooner..

>>279925749
I'm gonna go out on a limb here: it might be because you started this thread with a strawman begging for an argument
thus you received people willing to argue with you, even if it's in bad faith

>>279925658
Because the authors like men. I don't make the rules, and I'm not a Berserk fan.
>>279925668
>chuddie
Back to /pol/ with you. Shoo!
>>279925749
Fantasies about swordfighting are much, much gayer than depictions of traumatic sexual assault.

>>279922707
>Fags are homophobic
That tracks with Griffith's disgust of Gennon. Like nigga, you opened your butthole for him and let him paint your intestines with baby batter in the first place. Don't try to be above it all when you have cum in your ass.

>>279921928 (OP)
Berserk is a gay story because Guts is raped by Donovan and he spends the rest of the story in denial that he enjoyed the BBC so much it turned him gay.

>>279921989
>Berserk is just Devilman with better drawing
Miura was a hack.

>>279921928 (OP)
Miura was heavily inspired by BL like Kaze to Ki no Uta. Sure, Guts and Griffith are "straight", but their relationship has some undertones.

>>279925749
Griffith was not raped. He was a teenager selling ass, which in a medieval setting is an adult. Griffith is just a gay prostitute. Guts was raped.

>>279925815
>>279925873
i'm not the op faggot, i'm just saying that's a really retarded argument

>>279921928 (OP)
Every man becomes a violent narcissist when their oneitis can't be controlled or seduced by them, the gender of which is irrelevant. How is Griffith being a psycho about Guts any different to how psycho men become about women who are willing to give them friendship but not love?

Gayer than sasuke and naruto and that was gayer than gay.

>>279925919
>undertones
Yeah, the submerged part of an iceberg is an undertone too.

>>279924586
>Most fiction isn't about big strong warriors and their phallic adventures
This is bullshit. The Iliad nor The Odyssey are homoerotic and they are the cornerstones of western literature. The Bible is also full of stories about men fighting monsters.

>>279922707
Because homophobic men are extremely triggered by threats to their fragile masculinity. It's an easy weak spot that's irresistible to poke. Also it's a funny word

>>279926022
>these three books are the majority of literature
Would you like to take your argument back and rework it?

>>279925949
Donovan payed so it wasn't rape either :)

>>279925812
>Miura said that he wanted to show how damaged dudes are attracted to same sex relationships
>Source: my ass

>>279926140
Anon, it's OK to enjoy something even if there are gay aspects in it. It doesn't mean YOU'RE gay, not that you'd be any worse off if you were.

>>279923918
>Pulpish fantasy stories about big strong men violently dominating other men and monsters are inherently homoerotic.
Anon... no little boy into cool grimdark action stories is thinking about gay sex. None of it becomes gay until fags and pervs start projecting onto it.

But sure, Japs are twisted pervs in general, so maybe Miura is a little faggy. But being the big dog who carves up monsters is not remotely sexual to anyone but gay men (and some very disturbed women).

>>279926253
Things like Berserk appeal to young men because of the exaggerated masculinity - most young men feel as if they aren't yet masculine enough and look for ways to be more manly. It often takes quite a long while for a young man to mature enough that he notices all the homosexual undertones in his cool action stories. A properly grown-up man doesn't feel the need for power fantasies or the hero-worship of cartoon warriors, because he's securely confident in his own masculinity.

>>279921928 (OP)
Casca is hot, fuck off

>>279926100
>What is the Hero's Journey?
You stupid, uneducated faggot.

>>279925749
the comic book also has lots of dicks in it. even graphic depictions of double penetration

>>279921928 (OP)
I wish it was yaoi but it isn't

>>279921928 (OP)
Yes I'm gay, yes I want to rape all my male friends and manipulate them, we exist, get over it.

Berserk is my favorite BL manga.

>>279925949
Griffith was raped by the torturer, for a year straight.

>>279926236
Can you just post a link to that source?

>>279925949
sex work is still rape