Nobody who hates this show is able to explain what they think is wrong with it.

>>279925858 (OP)
Le emotional le ride

>>279925858 (OP)
Contrarianism is mindless by nature

>>279925858 (OP)
The main character is an annoying fag and i didn't enjoy it because him being around ruined every moment of the story.

>>279925858 (OP)
After all that trauma he went back to retard mode in 2 seconds

>>279925858 (OP)
Is the worst offender of "smart person written by absolute retard".

>>279926065
okabe is a retard written by a written though

>>279925858 (OP)
Manchild annoying MC

>>279925858 (OP)
Because there isn't anything wrong with it.
Don't get me wrong I'm not saying the story is 100% perfect but essentially every valid complaint anyone has about S;G is a nitpick and making a lot of hay about basically nothing.

>>279925858 (OP)
People can't handle a genuinely good anime so they feel the need to try and tear it down because it's too popular and too loved.

I dont give a fuck so long as you stop shitting up Fate threads you nigger

>>279926132
I'm going to have sex with those legs and stockings.

>>279925999
>>279926001
>>279926084
Okabe is one of the better MCs in anime so it's no surprise that /a/ hates him with a passion just because he's eccentric

>>279925858 (OP)
>>279926132
>beautiful girl
>who's also a scientific genius
>who also browses imageboards like (You) and falls for a scruffy chuuni nerd like (You)!

Kurisu's whole character is just blatant otaku pandering, she's boring as fuck

>>279926132
>Kurisu poster speaks the truth
Every time.

If you don't like Steins;Gate, you are Gay

>>279926389
Shits;Gay

>>279925858 (OP)
I can't get over how one-dimensional and stupid the characters are. It's like Inception written for 5 year olds or something. And their terrible English, I just can't get over it. HYUMAN IZU, DEDDO

>>279925858 (OP)
>>279925999
this one for me boss

>>279926467
If that is your complaint about Steins;Gate's characters then you basically just hate every anime, nothing you said is unique to this show.

Okabe is the greatest anime MC of all time.
Kurisu? The great anime main girl of all time.

>>279926496
This anime is just way cringier with this stuff.

>>279926389
Trvke

>>279925999
>>279926283
>>279926491
I loved the series precisely because Okabe reminds me of an eccentric weirdo I went to school with. It's almost uncanny.

>>279925858 (OP)
Rick and Morty but anime

>>279926340
>blatant otaku pandering
One of the good things about anime is that it's even allowed to have works that just blatantly pander to its loser audience to this level. It's actual escapism.

>>279926340
Honestly yeah. Does Kurisu even have a character flaw? She's too perfect, especially for being a nerdy girl. Poor circumstances don't count as flaws.

>>279926803
That's not an explanation.

I'll say it.

The latter half of the series made the show a 9/10 for me, but it took WAAAAY too long for the show to get good. I remember trying to watch this show like 3 times and stopping because it was so boring after 4-5 episodes, thankfully I kept it up cause you guys wouldn't shut up about it

>>279925858 (OP)
i found it fairly boring and just dropped it, it would have worked better as a live-action drama.

>>279926865
ah fuck, i gotta watch more episodes because it 'finally gets good'? shit.

>>279926865
>it took WAAAAY too long for the show to get good
This seems to be everyone's opinion. I liked the slow otaku scene setting stuff.

Peak Gate...
https://youtu.be/7rVK6Ckz8A0?si=HjspkydX_p3cDve6

>>279926936
It becomes a masterpiece at episode 12, you never should've dropped it.

>All this complaining about the anime being slow paced
None of you could handle the visual novel's pacing.

>>279926865
>>279926936
>ADHD: The Post

>>279925858 (OP)
The time travel goes full retard in the second half of the story.
The plot goes from Butterfly Effect anything can happen time travel to Final Destination this one specific thing must happen in every single timeline because reasons.
They have some handwaved explanation about worldlines to try and justify it but it's really just a poorly veiled excuse to let the writer to force whatever he wants to happen to occur as needed.

>>279927071
The anime is already slow enough.

>>279926936
You don't deserve good things.

>>279927071
My problem with visual novels in general is they're too slow paced. I'm a decently fast all the pauses between dialogue make them a slog to get through, and in the end if you need the visuals and it's of something that is already an anime then go watch the anime. I guess vns can give you some agency but if i'm playing something for a story i don't appreciate the ability to get that story wrong.

>>279927498
decently fast reader*

>>279926936

It legit turns into an amazing series but yes it's boring af at first. It might be better on a second watch but first watch going in blind it can be a bit dry

>>279927071


Why do a VN if the anime exists for it? Unless it has an expanded story or multiple subplots?

>>279927071
You say that like it's a bad thing. The show's pacing is an insult to the audience. VNs are naturally even worse.

The universe has a beginning, but it has no end. —Infinite.
Stars too have a beginning, but are by their own power destroyed. —Finite.
History teaches that those who hold wisdom are often the most foolish. The fish in the sea know not the land. If they too hold wisdom, they too will be destroyed. It is more ridiculous for man to exceed light speed than for fish to live ashore. This may be called God's ultimatum to those who rebel

Didn't they announce a live action years ago? What happened with it?

>>279927743
In development hell I think. No sign of it ever coming out.

>>279927082


I'll admit it my receptors are fried but sometimes if I get hooked in an anime I can still binge it

>>279925858 (OP)
I don't think enough gets said about how bad the characters in SG are. Kurisu is a generic tsundere who is nerdy, that's it. Mayuri has no personality except acting cute and saying her catchphrase. Daru has nothing except being a stereotype pervy computer nerd. These are really shallow characters.

Vegetables

>>279928110
Filtered

>>279928153
Dilate, trannoid

Best girl? It's Suzuha of course.

>>279928304
Spats queen

>>279928304
She should've been her own mother.

>another disingenuous Shits;Gay thread
Read anything better.

English mystery VNs on Steam from the past few years:
>Birth ME Code
>Blankspace
>Clean Slate
>CORPSE FACTORY
>Decide 4 God (finale to the Abime series)
>The Divine Deception
>Entropic Float: This World Will Decay And Disappear
>The Game of Fourtune
>Head AS Code (remake)
>Look Inside
>Methods: The Detective Competition
>The Price of Flesh
>Quantum Suicide
>Reaplaced
>Shards of Chaos
>The Specters Desire
>SYNESTHESIA
>The Zodiac Trial
>Tyrion Cuthbert: Attorney of the Arcane

English mystery VNs on Steam that are to-be-released:
>Beyond R: Rule Ripper
>Exogenesis: Perils of Rebirth (never ever)
>The Lost Delinquents of Rollings High
>Thief's Roulette
>Ubel
>Underground22

>>279928753
Imagine calling steins;gate bad and then shilling this slop

>>279927225
everything regarding the mechanics of time travel is consistent throughout the story and you are simply too retarded to model it in your mind so you choose to handwave it as if it's the writer who is a retard

>>279925858 (OP)
I don't get why this garbage is so popular when the characters suck so much.

>>279926645
Watch more anime.

>>279926132
/thread

>>279927225
try watching at 1x speed

>>279928753
>on Steam
No thanks; stopped reading.

>>279929095
They don't though, you just regurgitate this talking point without elaboration because a bunch of other retards do it.

>>279925858 (OP)
It's poorly paced and boring. Why do you think so many people drop it?

>>279925858 (OP)
Steins;Gate is shit.

>>279927991
I don't think enough gets said about how bad this argument is.
Kurisu is anything but generic and getting to know the real her over the course of the series shows how all of our perceptions of her were completely wrong. Mayuri breaks her cute act numerous times and we see exactly how insightful she is about the rest of the group despite playing the fool largely for Okabe's sake just as he plays his character of Kyouma for her. Daru being a pervy computer nerd doesn't stop him from stepping up to bat every single time he is needed and showing himself to be a dependable rock for everyone else. These are really deep characters.

>>279925858 (OP)
the scientist guy is the only character I cared about
no I don't care about the personality void dying over and over

>>279929767
>I care about the scientist guy
>No I don't care about his unfathomable despair when he loses one of the people he loves over and over nearly driving him insane
naruhodo...

>>279929852
Some of these posters are mentally retarded, please understand.

>>279929514
>It's poorly paced and boring.
elaborate

>>279925858 (OP)
Other people have already explained a lot of the issues.
Any decent 7/10 anime is better than Steins;Gate. Virtually none of them will have as many insufferable characters as this show does and they won't try to make a smart time travel story only to fall flat by forcing outcomes.

>>279925858 (OP)
Why is slow pacing = bad pacing to the zoomer mind? Just because it takes a while to set everything up doesn't mean it's badly paced, nearly everything that happens during the SoL moments has a purpose to it whether it be plot or character related. An actual example of slow pacing that's bad would be MuvLuv which is littered hyper repetitive monologues, exposition dumps, and flashbacks which are shown over and over again and could be easily removed without the story changing at all

>>279925858 (OP)
You shouldn't expect any rationality from people who got utterly filtered by S;G of all things, just rehashed buzzwords and meme arguments.

>>279929950
12 episodes of just foreshadowing and shitty dialogue don't make for a good first half. Even the second half is not something that I would call an exciting watch.

>>279925858 (OP)
S;G is okay, just overrated. It also has more than it's fair share of pretentious fans which makes the fanbase hard to deal with.

>>279930075
Honestly I wouldn't even call it slow paced. Yeah there is a lot to set up, but as you said it's all necessary or additive. Even considering that, there is still tangible momentum building the whole time that this is going on. People act like nothing happens until the gun fight, but there was a death and supernatural phenomenon in episode 1 followed by plenty of crazy shit.
I think a lot of people just toss out "pacing" because it requires no elaboration and sounds intelligent, or maybe they really are totally brainrotted, who can say?

>>279930256
>12 episodes of just foreshadowing and shitty dialogue
it's not, by episode 12 they have changed world lines numerous times already and Okabe is already terrified of all the damage he may have done

1/2 of the show is wasted on 2ch references (You) don't even know.
It's a pretty obvious weakness. Show isn't even the third best anime that aired in 2011.

>>279930491
In my experience, the people who go out of their way to trash it are generally the more pretentious ones, as if they are smarter than all the dumb normalfag masses stupid enough to enjoy a show with improper pacing and shallow characters (unlike their favorite intellectual series which they will not name, thus remaining unassailable).

/a/ hates it now because of the retarded okabe posters spamming in every thread

>>279925858 (OP)
I don't watch anime with ugly protagonists

>>279925858 (OP)
"put the genie back in the bottle" stories are for cowards

>>279925858 (OP)
>time travel le bad
>but not with this loophole lol

>>279930710
Yeah, there's Madoka, Fate/Zero, and Nichijou

>>279925858 (OP)
I don't appreciate you pointing your finger at me like that.

>>279925858 (OP)
Frieren mogs it, unironically. Steins;Gate doesn't deserve to touch the top 100 let alone top 5 anime.

>>279932556
friereddit hardly mogs anything.
also you didn't address the point being made in OP, just like everyone else

>>279932675
What's there to address? The story is fake smart, uses the trappings of being scientific but is just an Akihabara maid cafe romp featuring an insufferable man trying to save an insufferable moeblob.

>>279925858 (OP)
cuz simply there is nothing to hate about it, haters just hate

>>279932843
what you express is either an opinion or a misconception/misinterpretation. none of those things qualify as a piece of crticism.
>What's there to address?
you elaborate on what you mean by "fake smart", for example. I have no idea about what insecurities you suffer from that make you react to S;G in such a manner.

>>279925999
Trips don’t lie - no matter how great the story, boring or unlikable characters will always ruin it.

>>279925858 (OP)
The ending is unbelievably convenient in how it perfectly resolves everything for everybody. I have more issues with the story than just the ending but that stands out to me. It really doesn't feel earned, by the characters or by the show itself.

>>279930075
>Why is slow pacing = bad pacing to the zoomer mind?
There are anime with good slow pacing like Mushishi and LotGH. OP's anime is not one of them however.

>>279933135
first, there is Steins;Gate 0 that shows you how he actually earned it.

second, there was technically nothing to resolve from the very beginning. the only difference between the Okabe in the first episode and the Okabe that reaches Steins Gate is that the Kurisu's lying body that they see is either dead or alive. literally nothing else is different.
the only thing that gets "resolved" is undoing the mistakes from fucking with the d-mails and arriving at the idea of a solution.

>>279933034
>elaborate on what you mean by "fake smart"
Everyone who is not an obtuse, mouth-breathing midwit like you can implicitly understand what "fake smart" means.
If you don't understand this little, it means you're not intelligent enough to even have this conversation, and giving any further elaborations would be casting pearls before swine.

>>279933355
>filtered by butterfly effect

>>279933355
I asked you what is fake smart about the plot of S;G and you reply to me with this shit. You can't even parse the context of the conversation. I KNOW that S;G is not fake-smart or has anything to do with smart, really. Which is why I'm asking how you even came up with the idea.

>>279933241
I don't care for retroactively justifying the ending with a prequel. I get that this is time travel but mc from the future popping up out of nowhere to give him a solution isn't satisfying. Saying El Psy Congroo at the end of his speech doesn't fix that.
>there was technically nothing to resolve from the very beginning
Well there was that one guy that mc punched in the face to stop World War 3. I think the absurdities of how everything is just fixed by doing things like this are just too much.

nullpo

>>279925858 (OP)
It's a VN adaptation and it really shows.
VNs have a different flow to them, things just move at a different pace. Also it looks like generic anime shit compared to the VN.

>>279933541

>>279933413
>I don't care for retroactively justifying the ending with a prequel.
it's not retroactively justified. the solution to the problem that Okabe is faced with in S;G could be assumed and understood if you'd read Chaos;Head prior Steins;Gate, like you were supposed to. the mechanics of the world of the science adventure series are interconnected and consistent. S;G 0 is simply a piece of side-material, if one fancies some.

>I think the absurdities of how everything is just fixed by doing things like this are just too much.
actually you reminded me that keeping Kurisu alive is not the only thing that matters, they also needed to switch up the Upas. those are the only things that make up a SG worldline.
it's absurd only from a specific point of view. the tragedy and irony is that the SG worldline was always this close and the attempts to "defy the fate" were futile from the start.
what methods one uses to keep Kurisu alive and make the papers burn basically do not matter to "fate". the path to SG is there, you just have to play by the rules. Okabe in the true end becomes aware of the rules (because his future self, who observes them in practice, tells him), which allows him to achieve SG conditions. the fact that it involves buying gacha, punching the guy and bleeding out is a coincedence.

>>279925893
What did he mean by this

>>279932556
>>279932843
Frieren, the anime filled with one-dimensional, boring, emotionless dolls and overrated by newfag casuals who think it's deep and philosophical because it started with emotionally resonant ideas but the author clearly didn't have any concrete plan on how to develop them past the beginning and it turned into generic shounenshit to pander to the lowest common denominator. Frieren doesn't deserve to even be near the top 300. It's not touching Steins;Gate.

>>279925858 (OP)
>>279925897
Is it just me or are the anime versions of steins gate and parasyte look awfully similar

>>279927082
i have ADD unironically, however i've fallen in love with many great films and shows that were slow, but GOOD. Bladerunner 2049 blew me away in the cinema for example. Apocalypse hotel is also AOTY easy.

>>279933413
>I get that this is time travel but mc from the future popping up out of nowhere to give him a solution isn't satisfying.
It's not out of nowhere. It's no different to how he sends a d-mail to himself throughout the story. This time it's just from the perspective of the receiver.

>>279927991
>Kurisu is a generic tsundere who is nerdy, that's it.
i'm sorry you watched the anime...

>>279935875
Kurisu is always a virgin (and that's a good thing)

It insists upon itself

EL

>>279925858 (OP)
Shit pacing. If slice of life shows are more interesting than what you have going on you're doing it wrong.

>>279925858 (OP)
VN over anime any day. Generally speaking across various series:
>VN > manga > WN > LN > anime
Keep that in mind.

>>279925858 (OP)
I don't hate the show per se, I just think it's so wildly inferior to the VN.

>>279928304
Would you?

>>279926718
He makes me cringe because he reminds me of myself

>>279927743
Who was in charge of making the live action? Netflix?

>>279927052
>amv
What is this 2012?

>>279925858 (OP)
I actually like the show, but I am annoyed at the fans of it. It's definitely good, but not THE GREATEST SHOW TO EVER EXIST OMG!

>>279925858 (OP)
>there are alternate timelines where kurisu is alive
>MC cries about current timeline
there

>>279925858 (OP)
Ok but I just want to say that this is the best ending possible and canon where Lukako is a boy and Okabe finally realizes he IS gay for Lukako.

>>279925858 (OP)
The show relies on the whole cast being a bunch of nerdy otaku to make them likeable. If you don't care for that there's not much left to like in any of the characters.

>>279925858 (OP)
It's just overrated. 99% of people treat the show like a 10/10 or 11/10 greatest ever story when it's really a 7/10 time travel romp.
I don't hate the show but it's crazy how much it has been sucked off over the years.

>>279941692
>2 boys
Gross.

>>279925858 (OP)
Boring characters and the story wasn't that interesting.

>>279925858 (OP)
It's like, a pseud's Cyberpunk Edgerunners.

>>279943310
No u, faggot.

So is this the best Science Adventure visual novel, or is it just the most accessible?

>>279943310

>>279925858 (OP)
SG is garbage, even Re:Zero is better and I wouldn't call myself a fan of it.

>>279944580
I don't remember this in the anime...

>>279925858 (OP)
This >>279942128 is mostly my reason. This is the reason why I believe steins;gate is a teenager anime, the whole thing hinges on you loving these characters because they have 8th grader syndrome, and they watch anime and browse imageboards and say memes in real life just like you. It's a juvenile kind of appeal. Without that you're just left with a whole lot of nothing on the character side and a lukewarm plot.

>>279944580
My FUCKING hero.
I was rooting for him when he tried to take over Akiba and build a pimp empire.

Would you fuck and or date Luka? Be honest.

>>279926865
the show starts good and stays good. if you didn't like the first few episodes, kill yourself.

>>279945785
Yes but only if male.

I just think the show is boring. Do I need another reason?

>>279925999
You basically proved OP's point.

>>279925858 (OP)
i hate animes with trannys

>>279945785
Yes

>>279925858 (OP)
What everyone else already said, plus it has a shitty fanbase.

>>279945785
What's the point if you can't have kids with him?

>>279925858 (OP)
>“Nobody who hates this show is able to explain what they think is wrong with it.“
I didn’t like it because I just didn’t fucking like it, autistic anon thinks I need to have a reason to not like a show because „muh media literacy!“. Go rope.

>>279949298
Low IQ faggot post

>>279948961
You can >>279947533

>>279949541
Low IQ faggot who can’t handle or rebut criticisms so he turns to hurling insults as coping mechanism post.

>>279927225
Finally someone mentioned how retarded the time travel is in this anime. Even pop culture time travel like Back to the Future was more honest with its effects and consequences. No you don't get to trap your protagonist in a time loop just because you feel like it, you need a fucking reason.

>>279927225
anon.. they chose to write a story in a world where time travel is possible and the butterfly effect happens when you do it also there are world lines and also world lines have certain major events that have to happen
like they chose all of those things. if you are going to read the story, you literally have no choice but to accept them as part of the world you are reading about.

>>279927563
>yes it's boring af at first
wrong, retard. first 10 episodes were the best out of the entire series. it all goes downhill after mayshuri dies a 100000x times

>>279950699
Yes that's the whole problem. They created a story with time travel rules where sometimes things can completely change, but also sometimes things cannot ever change, and there is barely any logical rule or even reason for why one or the other happens except that the writer needs to force some contrived situation for the plot.

>>279951118
some specific things can never change. everything else changes in unexpected and scary ways. i don't know what to tell you. it's very consistent with its own rules.
i wish i had friends

>>279952318
>some specific things can never change
But not specific enough for the story to come up with a coherent logic for why that is, it seems.

>>279952453
what does the specificity of a thing that doesn't change have to do with whether you get enough of an explanation for why there are things that don't change? are you perhaps 'tarded?

>>279952581
The reason why you keep beating around the bush is because there clearly is not a good explanation for why the time travel works that way besides writer fiat. It's why Steins Gate is a shit story.

>>279952914
i'm not "beating around the bush." i told you that the story is structured with certain rules and in order to even be eligible to read the story, you have to be willing to accept those rules at face value.
there never has to be any explanation at all. they could also say that every time leap makes you more retarded and they would never have to explain why. it's just the way it is.

>>279927082
You don't value your time

>>279925858 (OP)
I like it, but it has a slow start and the protag's quirks are not good or interesting, they just come across as someone trying too hard to make a quirky character like Doc Brown or something.

>>279925858 (OP)
S;G has the most overrated cast in anime. There was a point where people were calling these characters the best in the medium, just absolute insanity.

>>279953065
And you don't value good storytelling.

>>279952979
>there never has to be any explanation at all. they could also say that every time leap makes you more retarded and they would never have to explain why
This is just false and the source of this whole issue. The show needs to have an explanation for the things that it does. It can't just be completely random. It needs an internal logic and Steins Gate is severely lacking that.

>>279953239
>muh explanation
next you're gonna tell me you didn't like haruhi suzumiya because you don't get why yuki is an alien. it can't just be completely random!!!!!!!!!!!!

>>279951118
Having worldlines that are defined and differentiated by key events is not illogical or contrived.
>sometimes things cannot ever change,
Anything CAN change, some things just would require a shift to a different world line.

There is no "problem" with the time travel rules, and more importantly that's just the plot framework to hang this story on. Steins;Gate is not about time travel, it's about fate and the relationships between these characters.

>>279953070
>they just come across as someone trying too hard to make a quirky character like Doc Brown or something.
that's literally what he is doing

>>279953287
"Finding aliens" is an idea introduced right at the beginning of Haruhi, it's part of the premise of the story. The particulars of Steins Gates time travel are not.

>>279953324
It is contrived because of the level of arbitraryness. And because the whole plot hinges on the time travel suddenly working differently because the writer suddenly says so.

>>279953433
Time travel is absolutely part of the premise of this story and there is no issue with the internal logic, you just don't like it or maybe don't get it.
World lines are defined by key events (attractor fields), this was explained very clearly and in great detail.

>>279953510
>arbitrary
it's not
>the whole plot hinges on the time travel suddenly working differently because the writer suddenly says so.
no, it does not

>>279933541
Phoenix Wright was well paced

>>279953670
Time travel is part of the premise, the idea that there are things unchangeable through time travel is not. Let alone the fact that what those things are is completely arbitrary.

>>279953741
Yes, it does.

>>279953433
uh, a high school girl wanting to find aliens does not in any way explain how yuki is an alien. or how asahina is a time traveler.

This show has the most annoying haterbase in all of anime

>>279953948
But they set up the expectation from the beginning that Haruhi is looking for these things and that she is probably going to find them, from a writing perspective that is the important part.
Maybe if Steins Gate had good writing they could've had Okabe try to change something using time travel in episode 1 and have it not work so that we would all know that time travelling can just randomly be a wet fart sometimes out of nowhere.

>>279953781
>the idea that there are things unchangeable through time travel is not
This is wrong, those things are not "unchangeable" they just require you to enter a different world line. You literally do not understand what you are talking about.
>those things are is completely arbitrary.
They aren't, they are precisely the things Okabe cares about, the lives of the two girls and the existence of his lab which is involved in the development of time travel technology.

>>279953845
please rewatch the episode where Suzuha explains time travel

>>279954111
so your issue isn't that the attractor field isn't explained well enough, it's just that you didn't find out about it in episode 1. despite the fact that you've written 65 posts in this thread alone saying that it isn't explained well enough.
>time travelling can just randomly be a wet fart sometimes out of nowhere
never happened, you didn't watch the show, you are an extremely black african, etc.

>>279954130
>This is wrong, those things are not "unchangeable" they just require you to enter a different world line
So it's just unchangeable sometimes, but not some other times? And is there a reason for this?

>>279954197
>so your issue isn't that the attractor field isn't explained well enough, it's just that you didn't find out about it in episode 1. despite the fact that you've written 65 posts in this thread alone saying that it isn't explained well enough.
I'll try and explain this as simply as I can. If it's part of the premise of the story that you show right at the beginning, you don't have to explain it. Otherwise you do.

>>279954111
>But they set up the expectation from the beginning that Haruhi is looking for these things and that she is probably going to find them,
please rewatch episode 1 of S;G.

>>279925858 (OP)
The only good character is the trap, that's what's wrong with it.

>>279954298
I would rather rewatch Haruhi quite honestly.

>>279954222
>So it's just unchangeable sometimes,
No, it is never "unchangeable". World lines are defined by certain events, but Okabe can and does travel between them. If you want to go East, but you are on the road that runs North to South, you can go East by leaving that specific road. Your direction is never unchangeable, each road is just set and defined by which direction it goes.
>And is there a reason for this?
Yes, that is how the mechanics of this theory of time travel work and they are based on real world theories and interpretations of reality.

>>279954287
The detailed mechanics of time travel do not need to be immediately explained to you for them to be valid in the story. You, like the characters experiencing this, are learning more as you go along, this is extremely intentional.

>>279925858 (OP)
Nobody actually hates this show. Everyone loves it, there are just trolls baiting by claiming otherwise.

>>279954396
I'd rather you go do that as well, it would prevent some really dumb arguments from being made ITT.

>>279925858 (OP)
I don't hate it. It was just okay.

>>279925858 (OP)
It's the best anime ever made, and not even as good as the source material.

>>279925858 (OP)
This MC is such an annoying bitch, even his face and expressions annoy me for some reason.
The anime was memorable for that I guess, maybe not in a good way.

>>279948961
I don't want to be a father. I want bussy though.

>>279926803
I still don't know what that means.

>>279925858 (OP)
Only issue is they esoteric localized 2channel memes to 9gag/reddit memes or non-memes and that's basically only the fault of the westoid localizers.

>>279925999
Okabe is a chuuni, he's supposed to act like a chuuni.

>>279954287
you are retarded and very black

>>279959102
He's supposed to be an annoying fag? Wow I guess that makes it all better then.

>>279959389
The whole premise is basically:
>What if a retarded chuuni who LARPs as a superscientist with special abilities accidentally actually does superscience and actually does have a special ability (Reading Steiner is an actual thing)?

So should I watch it?

>>279959389
it's not that he is supposed to annoy you, it's that he is not written to be viewed as quirky, self-confident chad.

he acts in such a manner because he is a socially-awkward dude who is scared of displaying his genuine feelings. by adapting a persona and presenting himself in an over-perfomative way he can freely communicate with people.
when someone then says "what a weirdo" he feels safe because he knows that it's not who he really is and the reaction is expected.

then the story challenges his approach and forces him to drop the act.

you people have ZERO media literacy

>>279961132
It's hugely influential even nowadays. The only drawbacks are that
>It's an adaptation of a visual novel game and the original story has additional paths that aren't covered in the anime
>The visual novel itself was aimed at otakus and therefore referenced a lot of 2ch (2channel, the text-only ancestor to 2chan, which itself is the JP ancestor to 4chan) memes from the 2000s. The characters are all regular users of 2ch (but it's called @channel in the series).

A small number of these memes made it to 4chan but the vast majority did not (and even the ones that made it to 4chan are now obscure in the modern era). There were lots of official and fan translations of the series and they all handled this in various different retarded ways. Some of them would take 2ch memes and change them to random 4chan/reddit memes but often fucking up the context in the process and just sounding cringe as fuck. Like, there's a 2ch meme where whenever someone says "nullpo" (null pointer) people reply with "gah", here is an explanation with a short clip from it being used in Steins;Gate (don't worry, no spoilers)
https://youtu.be/0Gg12j_4e3Q?t=80
In the localizations this got changed to shit like "Never gonna give you up" or "yo dawg I heard you like fail so I put some fail in your fail" or other retarded random shit.
Here's an incomplete list of the Japanese memes.
https://www.reddit.com/r/steinsgate/wiki/references/#wiki_memes
Pic related, another 2ch meme, originated as a reference to the Death Note manga.
I am not aware of any translation that included the original 2ch dialogue but I also haven't searched. Looking at that and reviewing 2ch memes might be the best way to watch it without cringing every few minutes at retarded localization choices.

>>279962002
Sounds reddit, Ill pass

It's a pretty decent show and VN, I only hate it purely for the fact that reddit brigaded the VNDB page to usurp Muv Luv from it's rightful throne

>>279957641
people with low media literacy think it's just like the fart jokes edgy nihilism western cartoon because they both involve science to some degree

>>279925999

But he's so much more likeable than Chaos;Head's protag, who's an ever bigger fag.

>>279928753
thanks anon

>>279962831
MLA is dogshit and shouldn't even be in the top 10

>>279925858 (OP)
The show is very carefully crafted to impress midwits, that's reason enough to hate it.

>>279964117
The argument is very carefully crafted to impress midwits, that's reason enough to hate it.

>>279964117
Is this >>279932843 your brother or something?
How retarded does one have to be to get an impression that Steins;Gate has anything to do with being intellectually smart, let alone that it tries to appear impressive in that department?

>>279964117
>>279932843
Two profoundly retarded individuals, cancer part of the cancer that is the Internet problem of society giving everyone a "voice" even if they are cancer

>>279927611
The VN came first, idiot shithead.

>>279953845
Kill yourself, MoM.

>>279964729
You're right, Steins;Gate has nothing to do with intelligence or smartness at all.

>>279925999
Based. There's a reason they always cope hype posting the females

>>279927071
Because they're both bad?

>>279965890
Yeah, because it's a fucking fictional story? You're such an extremely fucking ignorant and extremely insecure person kek. Unironically laughing at you right now

>>279965890
can you elaborate for once? what exactly makes s;g "stupid"?
the fact that characters rely on pseudo science to explain the phenomenon they are faced with doesn't mean the story fails as science fiction.
and if you're gonna say that the author doesn't understand any of the concepts that apply to their story and includes them for the sake of "appearing" clever, you are taking the burden of refuting everything that this document brings up - https://github.com/Votuko/steins-gate-mechanics

>>279925858 (OP)
I hate the anime because I'm not a baby secondary tranny like you
Read the VN (in japanese) or kill yourself

>>279964729
It's hilarious how they reveal their own midwittery with this angle, S;G is NOT trying to be intellectual, it blatantly pokes fun at that.

>>279966416
My sister unironically said this word for word about Dr pepper way before Steins Gate was ever created

>>279966520
your sister is based and sciencepilled

>>279966554
Yeah but do you think she's a time traveler? I haven't told her my favorite character said what she said about Dr pepper twenty years ago

Genuinely when has any S;G fan ever pretended it was some super deep philosophical show? For over a decade most threads were just people talking about the story and saying how much they want to fuck Kurisu and/or appreciating Okabe and Kurisu as a couple. Aside from some blatant falseflaggers (you know who I'm talking about) the fans aren't even that bad compared to how extremely up their ass compared to how other popular VN fans can be

>>279925858 (OP)
The timeline death crap works more like 'Final Destination' contrivance.

>>279966588
Real fan here, I believe it truly unironically is philosophically deep. The fags here saying it's fake smart because muh pseudo science are so insecure

>>279966658
No, it doesn't. Why do you say so?

>>279966588
Philosophical depth is a separate issue from acting smart. S;G does have things to say and some philosophical depth, but it is not portraying itself as some hyper intelligent or technical science story. It's a story about some friends fighting against fate, not about deep delving into the technical aspects of physics or whatever, those things are just referenced in the plot framework and media illiterates get confused.

Kurisu is what matters in this story, not the shit on the blackboard behind her.

>>279966658
So when he defeats fatalism and saves everyone at the end, that reminded you of Final Destination where the everyone dies and all their actions are futile?

>>279966586
say the code phrase and see how she responds

>see archive from 2011
>/a/ loved it except for a few retards who hated on it because [other thing better]
war never changes

>>279968409
HOLY HOT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

>>279935875
It's fine we still love her

>>279925858 (OP)
Nothing happens: the show
Bullshit happens: the show
Japanese fiction (lmao) : the show

It's average at best. Overrated as fuck.

>>279968572
Really? Fuuuck.
No I have no choice but to kill myself for enjoying it. Why didn't you tell me sooner?

>>279968409
[other thing better] was the VN version btw.

>>279925858 (OP)
never watched it but all time travel stories have no stakes and are pointless. Either the timeline is set in place (everything that will happen will ALWAYS happen regardless of time travel bs) which makes all the character's actions in the present meaningless because we already know the future is already set OR it isn't set in stone in which case literally anything and everything can be rewritten. Characters can die and come back as if nothing happened. Entire sections of time we've spent with the characters could just not have happened. When you're creating a story the crux of it is always to make the audience feel like they can relate to the strife and adventure the characters go on, but time for us MUST go forward at all times simply because that's what gives stakes and consequences to our actions. Any kind of time travel spits in the face of the human condition and so it's unsuited for use as a plot point (all of this excludes forward exclusively forward time travel cause that's got actual stakes)

>>279968798
>never watched it
Stopped reading there.

>>279968798
>never watched it
for better or for worse, I didn't stop reading there.

Main character keeps his memories from previous timelines (he is special) and other characters have remnants of the previous timelines' events (in the forms of dreams or deja vu).
This alone makes most of your arguments irrelevant

>>279968878
seems to fall into the "everything can be rewritten" type then. Where's the stakes when a character death means nothing?

>>279968921
don't about the stakes, but the events scar MC's mentality for life and to rewrite everything (aka solve the problem) he needs to come up with a solution first. or else he will be locked into the timeline indefinitely. it's not like he has the ability to go back in time unconditionally

>>279968954 (me)
>don't about the stakes
meant to say "don't know about the stakes"

>>279968921
The "fiction" part of the scifi puts limits on what he is allowed to do.

>>279968758
Technically true

>>279968798
>>279968921
Not that anon but time travel doesn't work that way in this world. You can't just change things however you want. Explaining this is a spoiler though since figuring out the rules of time travel are a major plot point.

I miss the old days, we used to have a Sci;ADV thread up for days actually discussing things about all the entries. Now its either
>steins;gate schizoposting
>steins;gate hornyposting
>page 10 0 replies

>>279969854
there is like 10 people who have actually read anything besides steins;gate and chaos;head (if you are lucky) who frequent threads like this.
also I think you have more luck making a sciadv thread on /v/ rather than here

>>279969937
Why would you ever set foot there?

>>279969985
to participate in a sciadv thread, obviously

The show can get a bit melodramatic sometimes, and some of the music (especially the music taken from the VN) and voice acting (emotive and well-done in isolation) in combination create saccharine situations.
I don't hate it. I used to like it.

>>279969937
It wasn't always like that

>>279969937
>/v/
NTA but /v/ seems to be completely full of retarded westoids who obsess over the westoid game industry "discourses" all day.

>>279970102
I literally do not give a single flying fuck how /v/ is like in general.
I brought it up only because there you could at least expect a s;g-only to play his visual novel instead of only watching the anime adaptation.

>>279925999
how do you improve his character

>>279925858 (OP)
All that damn jumping back and forth thru time!

After two and a half eps I realized I had to start all over again and take notes while watching. No fun and no way!

That and the would be mad scientist was annoying as hell. Couldn't stand his voice.

>>279970947
Thank you for your input, AnonGPT.

Because the sequel and everything adjacent to this series fucking sucks and I'm tired of seeing this corpse constantly dug up because nothing else these hacks make makes any money. I don't want any more remakes, midquels, spin offs, same universe with cameos, or sequels. Just let it fucking rest.

>>279971194
this is so true.

where is my Occultic;Nine Elite, Chiyomaru?