Thread 279946336

How many of these do you remember?

Nue thread: died with 160 posts
Blue Box thread: died with 140 posts
Elusive Samurai thread: died with 130 posts
Akane thread: died with 90 posts
Himaten thread: died with 70 posts
Shinobi thread: died with 70 posts
Sakamoto thread: died with 60 posts
Kiyoshi thread: died with 50 posts
Beethoven thread: died with 16 posts
Roboco thread: died with 11 posts
Kill Blue: wasn't dumped
Embers: got axed
Syd Craft: got axed

>>279946509
Nue the winner

Get Ruri PUNCHED

>>279946807
>>279946853
>>279946904
sex with dragon

Our

>>279947139
LOSERS

>>279946509
>legitimately skipping series in his frothing rage
Kagurabachi thread: defended till page 10
Kaedegami thread: died with 389 posts
Otr thread: alive with 170 posts
Nue thread: died with 160 posts
Blue Box thread: died with 140 posts
Ichi thread: died with 138 posts
Akane thread: died with 90 posts
Shinobi thread: died with 75 posts
Himaten thread: died with 67 posts
Sakamoto thread: died with 65 posts
Kiyoshi thread: died with 51 posts
Harukaze thread: died with 28 posts
Beethoven thread: died with 16 posts
Roboco thread: died with 11 posts
Kill Blue: wasn't dumped

Do you make an early thread JUST to post this?

>>279946601
You're going to give our WINNERS their high quality anime without guilt too, right?

>>279947438
>literally started copying anon out of seething asshurt that he didn't include Ichi
>visibly upset and triggered
nedicbas...

akane axe

>>279946509
are Blue Box stonks rising?

HI

MA

TEN

"exclamation mark"

Cosmetic Brand "Himariz"

An energetic high school girl president

With 80,000 followers

I'm the charismatic model Yoshino Himari

But I can't cook

I can't do laundry

I can't clean the dishes

And I can't even use the copy machine.....

I totally suck at housework

My company hired a personal housemaid for me

A GUY FROM MY CLASS?!

IEMORI TENICHI?!

I CAN'T LET THE ENTIRE SCHOOL KNOW ABOUT THIS

It's a secret between us

WHAT AM I SUPPOSED TO DO?!

Good Morning Iemori

"yawn"

My high school life is over

I'm so lame

That's right, you baka

Himariz? That's my cosmetic

I look up to my housekeeper

From now on, please protect my home, okay?

My housekeeper <3

>>279947438
Kaedegami didn't hit bump limit...

>>279947438
>proceeds to skip series in his own rage

>>279947780
i don't think they have merch of that

>>279947438
How do we save ichi thread on/a/?

>>279947438
Did someone get cucked again? Why is this week's Blue Box thread much more active than usual?

>>279946509
B is getting axed too, right?

>>279947438
Damn, so no one dumped Ember.

>>279947438
Elusive thread: died with 131 posts

>>279947942
>>279947993
>>279948130
>>279948200
>replying to himself again
nedicbas...

>>279946336 (OP)
>>279946509

>>279948266
sabciden...

>>279947438
>Kagurabachi thread: defended till page 10
Only due to repeated necrobumps

>>279946509
kiyoshi sistas...

>>279947438
Roboco...

So how many times will nedicbas reply to his own post so that it had more replies? Place your bets.

>>279946336 (OP)
LOSERS
>>279946509
WINNERS

>>279947438
Nice

>>279946509
Shinobi-Ten!

>>279947438
>Otr thread: died with 170 posts
>Nue : died with 160 posts
>Ichi thread: died with 138 posts
Depressing

OTR WILL LIVE

>>279946509
Jump is dead

>>279947438
I am looking forward to Kaede getting axed

>>279946509
sakafloppa...

>>279947438
Hima-Ten? More like Hima-Zero!

>>279946509
Who the fuck keeps dumping Roboco?

>>279947438
Will Ichi be OK..

>>279946509
I will miss Syd.

>>279947438
So no one bother to dump this week axe.

>>279946509
>>279947438
This is just plain dumb, like who care how long thread last?

>>279946509
Nue? Unaxebale.

>>279947438
Hima-bros...

Loredump

>>279946509
So these are the so-called winners

>>279947438
What the actual went wrong with this series? How come no one bother to talk about it anymore?

>>279946509
I read all of these btw.

>>279947438
kdg won hard

>>279947438
Do you think Jump will axe kiyoshi down the line?

>>279949726
The biggest problem with this series is just the people fight and nothing else going on. That probably why no talk about it.

>>279947438
>PEOPLE FIGHT
Who the fuck still read this trash

>>279946509
it's so over for WSJ

>>279949795
Have three successful series start that do better than it.

>>279947438
it's pretty useless overall, all it tells you is if it's popular on /a/ and it's so easily manipulated. remember when the consolewar schizo was translating spic scans to boost ichi's post count?

>>279949708
>>279949742
Calling him Adolph will curse the manga just like wolfonium did once

>>279946509
hmm

>>279947438
If thread post numbers mattered then Blue Box would have been U19'd.

>>279949908
>2023
What a useless chart.

>>279946509
>>279946336 (OP)

>>279947438
Don't get mad because Sakamoto failed to be the next big action shonen

>>279946509
will nedicbas kill himself?

>>279949946
>issue 8
The fuck are you doing?

>>279946509
I miss JJK already.

>>279947438
kill blue is the new yozakura, almost no one talks about it, it just EXISTS

>>279946509
Akane live.

>>279947438
Kaede=good
Nue=shit
Kou=cool
Gakuro=cuck
Chiyu=hot
Nue=weird because Kawae can't into human proportions

>>279946509
Nue won. KGBT lost.

>>279947438
Kdg is just the manga

>>279946509
speedy shota still has it

>>279947438
>humiliation ritual

>almost every single reply is copypasted from the previous thread
Holy schizo.

>>279946509
HimaTen? More like HimaCute!

>>279947438
Nedicbas is not even hiding anymore.

>>279947629
>>279948722
>i-i'm not seething you are seething!!!

>>279947438
Nue edits are funny, especially the ones where Gakuro looks like a cuck.

>>279946509
Sakamoto?

>>279947438
Kdg the shining star

>>279947438
these new consolewars are ass. ayashimon vs dororon was funny because of the edits.

>>279950240
This pic doesn't work anymore. Shinobi isn't a monkey

I miss the ip count, at this point it's just one person with two devices alternating replies between both posts.

>>279946509
Ultimate Shitter Kiyoshit

>>279947438
AIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIE

How many times can nedicbas possibly samefag to his own post? All this just because anon didn't include Ichi in his "thread died" lists. Talk about rent fucking free.

>>279950485
I posted it btw, so stop being a schizo because
>1 minute
every fucking post.
>>279950434
>>279950485

wtf is this massive samefagging, bot broke?

>>279950385
you know what to do, this counts by flooding, btw, reminder that jannies and mods can see posting history

>>279950706
He got mad and started spamming with posts from the previous thread because he just HATES the fact you mention which threads died.

Reminder that if Sakamoto, EluSam and BB end within 6-9 months without the magazine finding a couple of new instant sellers that do at least 50k it might end up making everything that left from '23-24 untouchable just based on seniority.

>>279950756
Really fucking organic how both posts suddenly stopped getting replies, just amazing the lengths this schizo will go to pretend he's multiple people.

>>279950786
not the first time he's done something like that

>>279951053
At this point, he's no longer even trying to fool anyone, he has the same objective as an interracial porn spammer, I'm surprised he hasn't dumped his scat collection yet.

>>279951053
Does he also refuse to address points he directly is told to address?

>>279950706
>>279951132
This kind a shit is exactly why we need a IDs

>>279951270
He makes charts instead, tons and tons of charts.
iirc he made one for kagurabachi cover likes but it got zero traction so no one bothered.

>>279949969
>>279950293
>>279950596
>>279950644
>>279950878
>>279951058
Thanks for all this. Are there any other instances when a big series wrapped up and other authors congratulated it for the ending?

>>279951017
https://www.viz.com/blog/posts/mangaka-musings-08-10-2020
kek the timing couldn't be more off, this was after Act Age author's arrest:
Me & Roboco
Shuhei Miyazaki: Because of the last two pages, my search history is now full of children’s swimsuits. Please don't misunderstand!

>>279951309
Having IDs all the time is fucking cancer, I'd much rather have something like a "request janitor to show this poster's ID" or something, it'd be very funny.

>>279951309
They were funny back in the other chan
>doesn't remember he has ids
>samefags like crazy
>then a bunch of unique ids shitposting
And then he got deleted from like 5 different threads at once.
Good times.

>>279950378
At this point it should be Kill Blue and Kiyoshi

>>279951388
Honestly, whoever makes the thread should legitimately have some thread rights, including deleting the thread if he feels like it.

>>279951338
>Thanks for all this. Are there any other instances when a big series wrapped up and other authors congratulated it for the ending?
Kochikame was a big one but I can't be arsed to look for the post
Also each series in the issue had a Kochikame easter egg in it

>>279951392
It was a Kimetsufag posting the usual anti-KGB trollpost and praising Ichi in other post, the problem was: he forgot about the ID

>>279951492
The only things he is is a
>nue
>centuria
>bugle call
fag, everything else he uses as a way to shitpost.

>>279951392
I wish I could save an image of it.

>>279951473
Did anyone find all the easter eggs? I could only remember One Piece.
Oda's comment: "I could cry. Akimoto-sensei is free! He's free!!"
https://onepiece.fandom.com/wiki/List_of_WSJ_Author_Comments

>>279951473
>>279951666
Also while not from jump, Golgo 13 author congratulated Akimoto
https://www.animenewsnetwork.com/interest/2016-09-06/golgo-13-creator-reacts-to-kochikame-manga-ending-after-4-decades/.106174

Saito: have to say good work. When serializing something that long, you can't really end it because it's not really yours anymore. Kochikame was the face of the magazine, so it must have been a tough decision. It's a lonely, envious, and strange feeling.

>>279951473
I wonder if there's a Japanese site that compiles all author comments over the years?

>>279951666
World Trigger had this
Speaking of, when WT came back from hiatus, Horikoshi, Posuka and (in the next issue) Usazaki congratulated Ashihara on his return

>>279951338
typically it's only for big series where most/all authors congratulate the author who's freeing them self from the weekly grind, although as long as a series isn't super short you might get a few congratulations even if your series is apparently being axed as long as other mangaka liked it (like chojo getting one)

I'm not sure if there's any cases other than Magu-chan/shugomaru where another magaka wholesale borrowed characters from a series that ended the previous week to do a special thank you chapter though

>>279946509
>>279947438
>Kagurabachi thread: died with 263 posts.

Oh no, he's back to having a schizo episode again.

>>279952036
He's in a constant state of melty and butthurt, it's honestly so funny, like seeing a clown hit himself with a rubber hammer.

>>279951107
Okay this looks schizo enough so I'm a little interested
It will probably end up as those high views low sales series though

>>279952163
I wonder why,bits nog like nue is getting axed even if it's not popular, is it mmyy or something? This level of obsession isn't normal.

>>279919314

Amazon Pre Order
Digital / Physical
One Piece #112 5 / NA
Kagurabachi #8 64 / NA
The Elusive Samurai #21 78 / NA
Witch Watch #22 103 / NA
Blue Box #21 104 / NA
Super Psychic Policeman Chojo #6 371 / NA
Nue's Exorcist #10 539 / NA
Ultimate Exorcist Kiyoshi #4 5815 / NA
Astro Royale #6 (final) 6692 / NA

>>279951979
>still mogs every other non ch1 series

>>279952480
got any for Jump+?

>>279952533
You CAN'T point that out.
He's also mad other series don't get as much fanart you see.

>>279952480
>Super Psychic Policeman Chojo #6 371
Holy batman jump!
Also Kiyoshi's rank fell again? Does this even sell in Japan?

>>279952480
>Super Psychic Policeman Chojo #6 371 / NA
>Nue's Exorcist #10 539 / NA
>nue going to job to an axed series in digital

>>279951338
>Shuhei Miyazaki: Because of the last two pages, my search history is now full of children’s swimsuits. Please don't misunderstand!
Ah yes, "research"

>>279952558
Chainsaw Man #21 9 / NA
Dandadan #20 18 / NA

>>279952628
Kiyoshi is currently the lowest selling manga in Jump. So no, it's not selling well.

>>279950434
>My HERO (who is my HERO btw) was able to TANK that absolutely DEVASTATING blow
GODhiro....

>>279952696
Why is he so pathetic?

>>279953621
i doubt she has the proper power delivery profile support so that'll probably just break the phone

>>279954205
nyo...

i'm starting to miss the kdg

>>279954557
Huh? What do you mean?

>>279946509
>>279947438
Our WINNERS: died with 646 posts

>>279949768
>>279950131
>>279949768
why are you copying my posts

>>279952696
My HERO's comeback will be insane

>>279946509
>>279947438
Bear in mind, the ONLY reason the thread got 140 replies is because anons were fantasizing about hypothetical NTR scenarios where Chinatsu cucks Taiki, and shitting on him for being an all-around garbage boyfriend. Normally, Blue Box threads die out at 35 posts, tops.

>>279956828
Bleak

>>279956917
BLEAK Box

het won

>>279957373
It always prevails

>>279953266
At least 2 series ouf of 4 will be hits, Saito won

>>279958398
But which two?

>>279949726
Worse Gintama

>>279957743
>noncanon

Based Brazil

KINOshi

>>279951731
wow it's not a harmless praise phrase for once

>>279958972
Do not reupload, chud.

>>279958972
>he did reupload it
AAAHH I'M GOING INSANE, HELP ME BRAZILMAN

Read her manga.

>>279959184
I'll wait for the anime

>>279959184
Perhaps

>>279959184
only iif you kaijin fugeki

>>279959248
They use so many licensed songs in the manga that I have no idea how they’ll handle it if it ever gets an anime adaptation, unless they either cut most of the songs or invest a ridiculous amount of money into the project.

>>279959830
But isn't it an industry plant? I'm sure the industry finds a way then

B-B-BASED

>>279946509
Centuria wins again

>>279958972
BEAST

Chinatsu-chan!!!!! A pathetic untalented sportlet little cuck like me could never amount to anything than the rich ugly-bastard chad neighbor YABBA DABBA DAAA DOOOOOOO

>>279962073
Explain KGB then

>>279962073
You know this is just shitter cope right?
Most of the low population threads also have poor sales

How powerful would kensei be with a shinai (竹刀) ?

>>279962520
On par with 【 World Slash 】

>>279959721
Brat status? Gonna get extremely corrected!!!

Weekly Shoseki Top 500
16. Sakamoto Days #22
50. Ichi the Witch #3
115. Akane-banashi #17
297. Shinobi Undercover #3
300. Hima-ten! #4
350. Kill Blue #10

>>279963172
Weekly Shoseki Ranking Top 500
16. SAKAMOTO DAYS #22
50. Ichi the Witch #3 (7,100 / 70,231)
115. Akane-banashi #17 (3,645 / 39,075)
297. Shinobi Undercover #3 (1,424 / 16,231)
300. Hima-Ten!#4 (1,400 / 15,804)
350. Kill Blue #10 (1,250 / 14,215)

>>279963266
what week is this?

>>279963328
4th

>>279963328
6/16-6/22

>>279963266
>300. Hima-Ten!#4 (1,400 / 15,804)
LIVE

>>279963417
is that the final?

Sabciden has been quiet since shoseki dropped

>>279963577
No, anon made a mistake, it's the third week. Next week is the last one.

>>279950240
>>279950378
>>279951400

>>279963266
> 300. Hima-Ten!#4 (1,400 / 15,804)
It’s Hima-Over…

>>279963853
Source me, anon.

>>279964333
Accurate

>aiieeee isekai is too much for jump
>accept chinks shits instead
HAHAHAHAHAHAHA
The absolute state

>>279964333
>Klansmen fighting
YAMEROOOOOOOO!

>>279964333
>>279964546
Needs to be Kill Blue and Himaten since they will be bottom 2 after Embers and Beethoven are out

>>279964501
>>279960026

>>279964554
Chink aesthetic is good though. I always like how japs portrayed them in wimpy qipao kicking people while flashing their pussies.

>>279964554
chinese century is upon us

isekai would save /wsj/

people have been bitching about template youkai series set in the distant past of japan for years, but now people bitch when the formula changes? some people can never be pleased.

>>279964554
Jump would be a lot better if characters didn't look so unappealing and actual had interesting stories. Nothing ever happens.

>>279965225
>when the formula changes
Literally what formula change

1 day until otrank

>>279965181
editors are sovless

>>279963266
>50. Ichi the Witch #3 (7,100 / 70,231)
It's the "it may not rank" rank.

>>279965225
What the fuck are you talking about

>>279965225
Next time think again before you hit that post button.

I stopped coming here since 2018, what the fuck happened here?

>>279965875
Drop the LARP, nuerat

>>279965940
>broken kgbfag is paranoid as well
NTA btw, just had to point that out

only oldfags remember yokai buster murakami

>>279966302
wasn’t that only last year? stop trying to make me feel old

>>279966302
I miss it. It was more entertaining than Roboco. It's a shame that it came out at the worst moment possible (P6 ending + peak exorcist fatigue) and that it took the author too long to find a proper style for the manga.

The moment this assistant leaves Takeru KGB is cooked

People keep ragging on that the recent WSJ anime did very little to boost any backlog because of shitty anime or the series itself isn't popular but Elusive had a really gorgeously animated anime with tons of public recognition and yet it's boost is just a measly 10K at best for the manga

>>279967237
For that one, I think the historical aspect was always gonna be its filter

Post this creature when they least expect it

>>279966996
Was an assistant responsible for that?

>>279967317
For the buildings I guess? Like any other assistant?

>>279967237
People seriously understimate how relevant digital is nowadays and TES does really well there.

>>279967353
People seriously overestimate how relevant digital is. Publishers still prioritize physical sales and advertise print circulation for a reason.

>>279967237
On the other side, Yozakura is the worst looking anime out of the recent lineup and that anime managed to stabilize the manga sales while UU killed its manga sales after the anime.

How is Ichi on digital?

>>279967442
Funny how things turn out for the supposed big thing and the literal exister, huh?

>>279946509
Jump is cooked when One Piece wraps.

>>279967432
>and advertise print circulation for a reason.
No, they advertise print+digital for a reason.

>>279967528
These days, Yozakura would be seen as a massive hit for managing to survive that long despite never hitting 30K on any of its volumes.

can anyone from here form a discord? I dont like /wsj/ and at the same time, i dont want to have to tone down the way i talk here without getting ban

>around 40k physical
>300k circulation
Digital is coming and shoseki will become irrelevant whether you like it or not

Salesfags are afraid that they will lost another one of their shitpost haven after anime BD/DVD became a nothingburger with the rise of streaming.

>>279967590
>despite never hitting 30K on any of its volumes.
Wait, for real? But surely standards couldn't be that low when it was running alongside stronger hits.

>>279967544
there’s still hxh and ruri?

>>279967677
It was doing 30-40k constistently.
Unlike UU.

>>279967571
Post the digital numbers for Elusive then

>>279967612
I mean, jump has a perfect example
>Sakamoto days
>100k/month
>150k/half a year
>550k circulation/volume

>>279967677
It did really well managing a consistent run for all of its volumes while our new manga already falls down to 10K on just volume three

>>279967677
>>279967773
Simply put, we were too harsh on it when the real failure was UU

>>279967773
>>279967812
Huh? Yozakura has 29 fucking volumes and still sold that low, it's absolutely a failure. How do you run for 6 something years and still do that poorly?

>>279967849
>and still sold that low,
It actually updated its circulation to 100k/volume, unlike UU that didn't get any.

>>279967867
>circulation
Not sales moron and where's the 2nd season of Yozakura btw? Any whiff of that?

>>279946336 (OP)
Is blade kid... Just bleach?

>>279967879
Actually announced
>imagine being mad at yoza of all things

>>279963266
>>279963172
Will Ichi actually rank? I feel it won't and did less than 7k.

>>279967895
>actually announced
No seriously why haven't we heard a single thing about it?
>of all things
What does that mean? Yozakura isn't exempt from any criticism. 29 volumes with shit sales isn't good and it's strange people will pretend it was succesful.

>>279967963
>>279967879
Yozakura's second season will be aired 2026 if you actually bothered to check

UU got absolutely nothing. Not even an update to it smanga circulation while Yozakura did

>>279967879
>where's the 2nd season of Yozakura btw?
Already announced, you fucking baka

>>279946807
>>279946853
>>279946904
*Sniff* Pl-pl-please remember my favorite series. It's...It's still relevant! ...Right?

The fact Jump looked at Yozakura in a better than UU does mean a lot though.

yozakura outsold beelzebub

>>279968102
I wonder what's the circulation they were supposed to give out assuming the anime was a hit?

>Supposed big hit in Jump's eyes
>Does nothing to keep the momentum
At the very least, SD will have more episodes than CSM ever could given this absolute abysmal release pacing

>>279968302
Sakamoto never had *any* momentum, it grew in sales, absolutely stagnated the moment it reached 100k and that was it.

STAGNATE-IN-COMMAND

This is your second in command after One Piece btw.

Humiliation Ritual begins 00:00 (JST) Jul 15 2025

Blue Box is the actual second in command but no one is ready for that conversation

>>279968391
They can't risk having a boring romance manga as the second with the worst romance heroine in recent history

>>279968302
All but Elusive got more anime episodes than CSM at this point

Kinda embarrassing, really.

>>279968451
>CSM gets a high quality canon movie
>everything else gets a mediocre season two
But yeah let's pretend CSM lost

>>279968487
>A movie that took forever to release
>God knows if they're gonna continue after that when JJK is MAPPA's golden child

>>279968487
I don't think it was worth waiting that long when Reze's arc would've been fine as a second cour.

>>279968499
>>279968511
I doubt people care that much about the wait, it's still going to be a hit in cinemas because of how good the Reze arc is on its own

>>279968532
The radio silence sure killed both the anime and manga's popularity .

>>279968487
Kimetsu didn't sacrifice its budget just to have a half baked season 1.
>2 cours
>The same opening
>Two EDs
>Was able to get through the long slog that is the beginning while CSM was barely starting its own plot

>>279968532
>it's still going to be a hit in cinemas
It's going to get squashed by kimetsu, really, part 2 killed most of the goodwill people had towards it.

>>279968554
Not really, Reze always gets a flood of fanart every time new information drops so when the actual movie comes out it'll be at its peak
>>279968585
Not sure what that has to do with the movie, everyone knows it's going to be good
>>279968616
Right because double features have never been a hit before. Movies don't 'squash' other movies, that's not how it works

>>279968532
>Anime killed momentum with the long wait
>Manga killed momentum because of the overall quality
It shot itself in the foot to the point of no return

>>279968554
>>279968616
>Fucked up Hell's Paradise and CSM
>Jump barred them from picking up any new series from them until they were finished
How much do you think they are seething about missing out on KGB

>>279968648
It was basically their next jjk for when it died, so very.

Try guessing how they'll screw up KGB's anime

Hard Mode: Don't mention Gacha studio

>>279968838
Honestly the only way I could see them screwing up is the actual choreography
Uma Musume and Apoc Hotel were great, and Summer Hikaru Died also looks awesome

>>279968838
Yoasobi OP

>>279968838
12 episodes then a movie 3 years later

>>279968870
>YOASOBI OP with Char and Hinao doing some funny dance moves
How is this a minus?

>>279968887
>12 episodes
>Sojo at the lengthiest is like 10 episodes
>2 episodes can be used to hype up the next arc
I mean. This is what CSM did but.....

>>279968894
Kill yourself

Kimetsu did irreparable damage with the canon movies

>>279968936
Baffles me when people unironically want movie adaptations for arcs that are 20-40 chapters long

>>279968862
KGB's fight choreography is way less complicated than Sakamoto's. at the very least

>>279968936
seethe uufag

>>279966996
I like KGB to a degree but idk why some retards keep insisting that its art is anything but newbie artist's first one-shot level of amateurish. You can easily tell what's drawn by Takeru and what isn't in every single panel.

>>279968975
chainsaw man part 2 tier drawing

>>279968894
>YOASOBI OP with Chihiro dancing
You got me interested

>>279968975
they convey emotion fine and the paneling works for the most part

>>279968862
They've been doing great so far. I hope they don't feel too pressured because KGB is potentially their biggest adaptation.

since when was it decided that kiyoshi is an established hit?

>>279969070
Looks like our time traveler knows Himaten and Shinobi don't make the cut

>>279969070
>2022's only hit was Akane
Was it that bad?

>>279969126
Ruri Dragon was also 2022

>>279969070
Since Oda said so

>>279969126
Ruri was also 2022 but y'know what happened to the mangaka

>>279969126
there was also ruri, the only other manga that were close to being hits from that year were cipher and ichinose. 2010 was still worse, don't think they got a single hit that year.

>>279968975
>three of the same panel in one page
jesus

>>279969203
Literally all three are different retardanon

>>279969070
The 2020s doesn't seem so bad so far. Most of those series are still alive except for the ones that ended obviously.

>>279969070
what do we have yet for 2025?

>>279969257
KDG

>>279969226
>zoomed in panel
>same panel as top left but added more blood
woah

>>279969070
WSJ isn't very generous with covers besides every launching series getting it. If something gets a cover it's a sign it's staying for some time. In fact, KB and Nue weren't really in danger until they were near their 2nd anniversaries.

>>279969257
NONE

>>279969245
Half of them go into the ended/ending category. Jump must be panicking because any success in the 20s don't seem to stay for more than 3-4 years.

>>279969273
They literally are all drawn completely differently retardanon

>>279969257
None so far.

Beethoven, Embers iirc were the first two entries for 2025 and they went straight to the bottom.

>>279969203
>Hair is different
>Eye is different
>Details are different
>Mouth is different
Same panel btw

>>279969257
Xianxia

>>279969257
>>279969302
Unless I'm missing one, these are the entries for so far
>Embers
>Beethoven
>Nice Prison
>Otr
>Harukaze
>Kaede
>Ekiden
>Ping Pong

First two bombed.

>>279969360
That list doesn't spark confidence in the magazine.....

>>279969360
I believe in Harukaze. The rest, not so much

>>279969360
Kaedegami won't bomb, I believe in it.

>>279969360
Embers and Beethoven already got axed, Nice Prison seems like axebait but it ranked well on chapter 2 somehow, Otr might be able to skate by and become an exister but it's kinda bland so far, Harukaze has potential + fujos can carry it if they end up liking it, and KDG is still way too early to tell but has a nice ecchi waifubait and an alright ch1.
Ekiden seems like axebait judging from the art but maybe it ends up being good who knows, and I'm convinced Ping Pong is DOA just because of its name.

>>279969360
Ekiden seems like instant axe just for the MC's design alone.

>>279969360
It took 2023 nine months to finally get a true hit. I can still believe

>>279969474
>and I'm convinced Ping Pong is DOA just because of its name.
I agree too. Why didn't they have a different name? Because the known ping pong manga is a cult classic

>>279969360
kaede has potential, nice prison can fall into an exister role, rest are doa

>>279968975
>praising Hokazono's cross between amateur and professional art as something noticeably better than the backgrounds

I guess the degree is cockslurping one.

>>279969546
TECHNICALLY they are different names if you read the japanese characters, but they mean the same shit
>PinPon, the cult classic
>PinguPongu, the new WSJ axebait

>>279969360
I want to have faith in Harukaze but as a purely sports series, I don't think it can survive. Blue Box was romance first, sports second

>>279969290
They aren't btw, but I allow you to keep living with your delusions and skewed perception.

>>279969682
1 and 2 are basically the same with speedlines, but 3 is completely redrawn.

Women don't latch just on any all boy sports manga, you know. If they did then the success rate for spokon would have been somewhat higher.

>>279964554
>Imagine shitting on one of the oldest ancient civilization
Don't let muricaGPT drive your brain anon

>suddenly there are so many retards love baseball
>Believe in fujo power cause obviously the series won't attract fanboys
Feels like you fags think most of spokon manga only survived thanks to fujo bucks, how dumb, most fujo are animeonlyfags, they only help promote the series AFTER it was deemed as successful by the magazine and greenlit anime adaptation.

>>279970024
>most fujo are animeonlyfags
Kagurabachi is a real anomaly

>>279970024
Kuroko and Haikyuu sure lived on pure male fan power.......

>>279946336 (OP)
Was Red Hood any good? I had meant to check it out

>>279970024
Unironically yes. Neither of those series started out with art that screamed "fujos" only

Harukaze and Kaedegami are the new Haikyuu & Frieren

>>279970137
0/10 bait, see me after class

>>279970247
i'm deadass serious

>>279969920
We talk about fiction for kids anon.
Xianxia/culativation practically just native isekai chinks version.mWhy the fuck are editorials sperging so much to avoid isekai when xianxia is the same except its chinese flavors.

you guys keep talking about xianxia or wuxia or chinese works
care to name some good ones? I'm interested in reading them now

>>279970302
>guys
I'm a woman, bigot

>>279963266
Hima-16k finally

>>279970283
But Ichi is native isekai and it's in the magazine though
Editors just don't want isekai

>>279970302
read journey to the west and romance of the three kingdoms before reading anything else

>>279970302
Play blacked myth wukong

>>279970341
even better, you must know a shittons of chinese manhua or chinese drama series
>>279970368
I did read like 1/8 of it, might need to finish it
>>279970380
I did, stuck at erlang rn

>>279950092
My ECCHI alliance

>>279970404
Nuerats finding new scapegoat?

>>279947438
Nobody dumped Witch watch? kinda sad

>>279970428
I just like both.

>>279970398
Watch word of honor for wuxia, or read the source material.
Revitalization of the fuyao sect for xianxia.

>>279970429
It was dumped already. The shitposter just didn't care to acknowledge its existence

Kiyorats are getting uppity

>>279970429
It was dumped because i actually posted in that thread
And no, it wasn't the anime thread

>>279970404
Nips know

>>279970499
>pochi as the goal
If only they were allowed to do what pochi did with her older sister series.

Burgerbro.....

Our WINNERS are getting victorious

>>279970527
Bidenbros...

>>279970527
>2021
Sleepy joe..

>>279970613
>first year of mandate
You can actually blame trump for it.

PLEASE VOTE FOR KINOSHI!

>>279970656
haha how about no?

Hori? A King

>>279970656
>outlives ASStro

>>279970302
Modern recommendations:
For xianxia
>The Devil Butler
>Once Upon A Time, There Was A Spirit Sword Mountain (also has older female master becomes MC's wife at the end)
>Chronicles of Cursed Sword (Korean xianxia but the setting is basically the same as chinese)

For wuxia
>Great Journey of Teenagers

Others
>Grave Robbers’ Chronicles
>Dragon Raja

Some have animation and live action adaptations, my advice is you should focus on the original material first, don't try to watch tv drama adaptations because chinese directors hate faithful adaptation, animation adaptation is alright but they only adapt some of the starting arcs

Classic recommendations:
>Gods of Honour (same stuff from Houshi Engi)
>All the stuff written by Louis Cha (all wuxia)
And these >>279970368

>>279970438
Don't recommend gayshit

>the series I hate have all been axed
Wat do? Should I just kill myself now

>>279970738
Is that not a good thing?

Not looking good so far.....

>>279967849
Yozakura never sold that low.

>>279970690
They need to check his harddrive

>>279970803
What was Yozakura anyway? It's always been there but I've never bothered to see what it was about

Reading Golden Man at the moment, it's good.

>>279970835
Boy marries into a pseudo mafioso family by accident and has to git gud to protect his fake wife.
Feelings develop from there, fair amount of action.

>>279970835
Think of KHR but unironically Hetero

>>279970835
Discount version of Hitman Reborn

>>279970835
Basically put Reborn for straight people.

>>279969856
Not every spokon do fujobaits correctly, you know.
If they did all spokon manga will success.

>>279970848
Mutsumi wasn't a fake wife. They legitimately did get married at the start of the series in the eyes of the Yozakura Family. Yozakura was mostly about family bonds and spies.

This but Himaten girls

https://youtu.be/PXAlCazm3J0?si=enJc33VJSU9SjgW-

>>279970835
Reborn but worse. It never sold well for a reason.

>>279971025
It's fake in that there were no real feelings there.

>CyberAgent concludes a marketing partnership with KANA to strengthen its expansion in the animation sector in France.
KANA is the french house publisher of the Kagurabachi manga, the coincidences are pilling.

>>279971406
This is actually not dumb at all, maybe anime announcement soon

>>279970656
No

>>279970499
Kadegami first chapter feels like a One shot, will this shit actually have a plot or just be gachabait big titted women spam

>>279971638
(me) anyway, be anything but haremslop

>>279971406
>>279971460
Cyberagent has a stand in Anime expo US too

>>279971638
mamayuyu redux

>>279971638
Way too easy for everything to go wrong if it tries too hard with plot.

>>279971638
>feels like a One shot
>actually showcases a clear premise and plot hook beyond chapter one as well as the mysteries with Chiyou

>>279971903
>a clear premise
Yes.
>plot hook
No. Why should I care about what happens next when I already got a happy conclusion? There's no hook.

>>279972013
>I already got a happy conclusion
>missing most of her body
>can't do most of what he wanted to do with her in the first chapter

>>279972035
I got to see Chiyou smile in a big ass beautiful spread and Kou looked satisfied in the very last page, that's quite the happy ending. Again why do I need to care about what happens next?

Why are people dissapointed by Baseball again? it's only the 2nd chapter and it looked fine

>>279971903
>hook
C'mon, there's no hook so far, establishing characters and their dynamics is not a PLOT hook
>>279972035
>implications are the plot hook
Alright, whatever you say, enjoy the axe

>>279972145
It doesn't look like it's gonna get axed, there is two other series that won't make it probably
Also Hakuzure is doing worse

>>279972119
Because WSJ has abysmal rate with spokons since 00s. "looked fine" is not enough, especially when you have like 3 different baseball manga with established audience in other Jump magazines.

>>279972175
Of course, none of the spokon spam will survive.
But if kdg doesn't get the main plot going soon then it's eventually going to be axed. There's just so much axebait right now.

You guys don't have faith in them?

>>279972286
Disgusting fucking art style and punchable character? AXE THIS GARBAGE NOW

>>279971742
Mamayuu but the mama stays?

>>279972145
>implications
They outright state most of her body parts have been stolen and mc said he wanted to get them back. How's that an "implication"?

>>279972286
That's the protagonist for Ping Pong?

Already felt like it's gonna get U19'd immediately

>>279956828
Is taiki a garbage boyfriend? Chinatsu is so lifeless I can't tell

>>279972551
It feels like a forced plot point that's going to get subverted by Youkai of the week.

>chapter 1
>forced plot point
What is this low level shitpost? Why is the schizo targeting a new series?
I saw him ranting about the baseball manga too even though it also just started.

>>279972815
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>nuefag feeling scared
What did you expect?

>>279972286
These two are 100% the designated axebait LOSERS of this batch.

>>279972815
The only thing i agree is that it really look like a One shot, i'm curious about how the next event will unfold

>>279972093
She needs her hands back so they can handhold.

>>279972829
their series prolly can't be axed after winning AJ, it's not them.

>>279972286
Can we SUPPORT those dark horse of the batch

Saito hurrying Yozakura and UU's ending was legit a GIGA retarded move

>>279972831
>The only thing i agree
>says the person who posted it in the first place
Dude.

>More generic spokon doa trash
Why even bother? Jump should be spamming basic battle shounen, those have a bigger chance to succeed. Also cut it with the fucking exorcist shit.

>>279972286
After looking at some of his one-shots he actually has good art, it could end up being good

>>279972930
What? it's not me dude, it's really how i feel reading the chapter, like with series like Kgb you see that it's a first chapter, kaede really feel like a One shot

>>279972815
They must be trolling. Describing the clear narrative end goal of collecting all stolen body parts and reassembling the MC’s mother-wife as “forced” is the same as complaining that Ahab’s ultimate desire to slay the white whale in Moby Dick is “arbitrary and capricious.” I don’t come to these threads for deep literary analysis, but Jesus Christ.

>>279972962
The character looks like a cuckold self insert.

Will we get Kaedegami spoilers?

>>279972853
Then he wouldn't keep shitposting over and over and over again.
And it's always the same dude btw.

This batch is basically Fujos vs Otaku with baseball vs Kaede (ignore the next two slops)

>>279973038
>vs
>implying
>kaedegami already said there was a hunter close by
Incoming chinese sect-coded fuccboi.

>>279973037
They support Kaedegami from what i saw

>>279973056
You never know with ecchi series, most of the time they keep every male characters outside the plot because they would "hinder" the MC with his girl(s)

>>279973038
Well these two are guaranteed to survive seeing the next two series

>>279973104
I really dislike "serious" ecchi shit, I think it's pretentious.

>>279971406
Remember when people wanted Studio pierrot for Kagurabachi?

>>279972987
Plot devices by definition are forced, retard. The problem with the chapter is that it showed the pair can be happy and fulfilled without fully reassembling the plot items for the motherwife.

>>279973056
>there was a hunter close by
Kou x Ichi

>>279973198
>can be happy and fulfilled without fully reassembling the plot items for the motherwife.
>can't eat
>can't fuck
>can't actually hold hands or real contant because she's a glorified ghost
What "fulfilled" are you talking about?

if your manga doesnt trend worldwide before chapter 1, its a FLOP

>>279973248
Otr and baseball trended
But Kaedegami got mor xitter discussions

>>279973038
I don't see any fujo takes interest in your baseball manga
>>279972232
>But if kdg doesn't get the main plot going soon then it's eventually going to be axed
The entire plot is about retrieving his motherwife's body part, do you even read?

>>279973274
Kaedegami trended in japan at least, more posts than harukaze too.

>>279972997
I'm not very familiar with cuckold sel-inserts, can you elaborate?

>>279973289
>YOUR baseball manga
lol

>>279973301
I remember it having more posts but without trending
In the end it depend of the day

I can see our WINNERS watching a baseball game...

>>279973224
This, moron. Fulfillment just from a hug and being able to look at each other. Anything after is plot for the sake of plot, the author already delivered a satisfying arc in a single chapter.

>>279973302
nagatoro/komi/uzaki/dressupdarling

>>279973363
Tit's too big, I'd rather have their daughter.

>>279972145
>C'mon, there's no hook so far
You Nuefags are so retarded, holy shit.

>>279973198
The author provided a self-contained climax for chapter 1 (restoring the head) while revealing the framework for a larger story. It honestly was the strongest first chapter in WSJ I’ve read in a while, where I’m actually curious to check out chapter 2 to see what happens next.

Chapter 2 will be interesting to follow, they basically tell you if the series is on the right path or not (see Hakuzure)

>>279973478
>>279973452
They views from both series aren't that great
iirc Mamayuyu was in the 200-300k range

>>279973347
>Even now anons still talking about kdg not that bait & switch baseball
>B-but trending matters!!!

>>279973498
mmyy hit 200k for first chapter after a week and some more.
Harukaze is low, mind you.

Ecchi will prevail, we already got too much fujoshit in jump

>>279973551
This one took several weeks to reach 200k.
Unironically kaedegami did well because it's well over 100k in 24h.

>Last week people were praising the shit out of the baseball series and now people already doomposting it
What is this

>>279973568
Chapter 2.

>>279973568
I also didn't follow it closely but it seem chapter 2 was a let down (i still don't know why, if someone can explain it)

>>279973452
>From 144k to 80k
chapter 3 probably only has ~60k left

>>279973248
If it doesn't sell 1 million copies the moment chapter 1 drops, that's a flop brother.

>>279973613
There's an anon who was mad there wasn't some sort of yaoi, angsty, possessive twin incest rivalry going on.

>>279973568
>people were praising the shit out of the baseball
Because some fag or fujo anon hates the female coach in the oneshot so they praise the serialized version for replacing her with a fuckable retard instead
Meanwhile nips only like the oneshot as it is, so they lost 60k just like that

>>279973689
chapter 3 views will decline further so it's not gonna be 'an anon', it's weirder how you even find it good, go read good baseball manga instead of trying to defend this poor writing

Some toshiaki went full baseball autism with this one because of the submarine pitch.

Why so many sports manga and niche shit?

>>279973568
despite being nippon national sport, no baseball manga is popular.

>>279973997
Except for the popular ones.

>>279973997
Maybe baseball is too unintuitive. I felt like Harukaze suddenly got really technical for chapter 2 when explaining baseball concepts.

>>279974055
That's just stupid.
99% nips children understand baseball. Explaining baseball concept in ch2 is stupider than otr training in ch3.

>>279973689
>yaoi, angsty, possessive twin incest rivalry going on.
You can keep trying to use this trope terminology to make it sound bad but a dramatic rivalry will always be more entertaining than a stale bread rivalry. You dont think the younger bro is posesssive? His younger brother literally NERF himself to make the older brother look good. He doesnt care if he was actually good. He just wanted to play with him.
He even got angry and lost his form just because the old brother was about to give up on their dream.
Then chapter 2 came around and completely brushes away the promise in no more 5 pages. Now, the rivalry doesnt feel like its the main hook of the series anymore

>>279974097
by your logic volleyball isnt popular in japan

>>279974170
Compared to baseball its certainly isn't

>>279973997
Mitsuru Adachi, you dumb retard

>>279973973
>and niche shit?
such as?

>>279974290
Who?
Was his obscure baseball manga reach 8 million per volumes like slam dunk? or 3 million per volumes like haikyu?

>>279975040
>dissing adahi
>who wrote touch
>a manga that sold 100 million in 26 volumes
RETARD

>>279975040
>Was his obscure baseball manga reach 8 million per volumes like slam dunk? or 3 million per volumes like haikyu?
Holy newfaggotry.

>>279975040
Slam dunk is under 6 million/volume and HQ at 1.5 million.

>>279975040
HAHA JUMPONLYKIDDIES NEVER FAILED IN EMBARRASSING THEMSELVES

>>279975040
holy retard nuerat.

>>279975040
Just shut your fucking mouth if you don't know shit, retard.

>>279975040
Big low point of /wsj/ unironically.

Kagurabachi leaks doko, I'm tired of talking about axebait

>>279975258
it's back to Hakuri's perspective and Souya appears at the end

>>279975292
back to Tafuku*

>>279975249
Why should we give a fuck about manga that isn't Jump?

>>279975119
SD is definitely at more now
It's actually on digital after so long just this month
June got raped by Slam Dunk

>>279975249
Too many newfags joined after kgb got in jump

>>279972093
ask yourself the same question when you read nue's exorshit

GOD, Chihiro's fiancée is so cool!

>>279975040
Holy newtard
No wonder retards unironically find Harukaze good, turned out they never read classic/popular/long-run baseball manga before

>>279975537
What's wrong with Harukaze? care to explain

>>279974097
>99% nips children understand baseball
>Source my ass, believe meeeeee
99% burger children understand american football too amirite?

Can Harukaze Mound be as big as Diamond no Ace?

>>279975592
nta, but arent there a bunch of changes to modern baseball within the past 5-10 years in attempts to positively impact viewer retention? not 100% sure as i dont watch it

>>279975671
Uhh no Koshien still doesn't allow designated hitter and the pitcher must be at bat too, that's just MLB.

>>279975698
oh then explaining baseball for the entirety of chapter 2 is series suicide. what was the mangaka thinking?

>>279975592
Everyone watched Koshien in Japan so of course they do man today's /wsj/ sure is something.

The low attention span of anons here is the reason why newer manga can't take it slow anyw
more

>>279975040
Stellar bait, everyone is dogpiling this in attempts to not look like newfags, unintentionally outing themselves in the process.

>>279975733
If there's one major thing that Koshien changed recently is that the pitcher can't throw more than a certain amount of pitches to protect them because in the past there are so many talents that got wrecked because of this, which at first I think really suited the manga setting of having two pitchers but now lmao.

i just don't like baseball

FORGE the new thread. Leave no impurities (baseball) to it.

>>279975794
It's so retarded
>you don't know this NON-JUMP MANGA from 19-go fuck yourself? /wsj/ has fallen

Ohh zoomies melty

Pulling Iori into my sumo ring and eating her alive while she screams for her dad....

>>279975794
Oh no, outing oneself as a newfag on an anonymous imageboard, what could be worse

>>279976213
>KGB
>Political KGB
>MANGA Plus KGB
It's all coming together

>>279975819
I thought that already a norm long ago given how strict it was in DnA when most powerhouse teams always keep track of pitch count and have reserved pitchers switch in

>>279975621
Lmfao set the bar lower, maybe like Obvious Battery

harukaze = next haikyu
kdg = next code geass

>>279976213
You know

I miss the square mouths

>>279976365
KDG can be the next Houshin Engi if done well

>>279976213
>Literally just Chihiro with lighter hair and aged to an adult

>>279976427
>KDG can be the next [random manga nobody knows]
it better not be

sakamoto days got hard exposed when bnha and jjk ended. its not the next big thing, its completely invisible

>>279976294
>Political KGB
Which one is that? The chink exorcist one?

Aka? Has become IRRELEVANT!!!

if ch 1 of kimetsu dropped today you would all dismiss it as u19

>>279976519
SECOND. IN. COMMAND.

wtfbros kgb lost

>>279976547
Empyreal Cabinet, but it's far from it now

>>279976519
But second in command

>>279974117
If you think a can series turns stale in 1 chapter you might an attention span issue.

Our WINNERS... WON

>>279976590
Doesn't the same goes for KGB, I remember the threads

Don't dare lie, you were all calling it axebait because it screamed edgelord from start to finish

>>279976712
>Doron 2.0
>Leaks drop
>It's actually KINO

>>279976712
I saw the potential from the start, I remember others saying there was some good stuff in that first chapter as well.

>>279976712
We know you KGBfags are so adept in playing the victim card, but the post you replied to wasn't even calling you guys out. Not even subtly, absolutely nothing relating to KGB could be inferred from it. Professional victim much?

>the mag will have three spokons in the lineup for at least three months
Grim.....

>>279976510
>random manga nobody knows
I can tell you are the same underage retard that shit on Adachi, how about do some research before hitting that post button?

>>279976519
Kek

>>279976590
You know what it's even funnier. When JJK's first chapter dropped, the threads were dead and hardly anyone talked about it.

Try guessing the manga from its batch that got the initial hype

>>279976712
How sweet of Akane's fiancé to buy her the new frappuccino flavor from Ztarbucks

what if the three spokons do less than 10k
Saito retires?

>>279976858
>the threads were dead and hardly anyone talked about it.
No one talked about it in general until Shibuya, really, the threads we're a ghost town

>>279976858
Even when the manga was selling well, threads were still surprisingly dead during its early days
You just never know which of them will be the huge thing

>>279976921
>>279976965
MAPPA more or less cast their magic on it. It quite literally skyrocketed it

>>279976712
Yeah a few people called it edgelord the series, I don't remember anyone called it axebait right of the bat tho, and schizos made sure it trending not only on X but also on /a/ with repetitive threads

>>279976858
Cause jjk was boring before Shibuya arc, it almost got axed for being boring in early days

>>279976965
>>279976921
I know they're not big successes but Sakamoto and BB have dead discussions and yet perform way better than most of the magazine

In /a/. I know SD has more active fanbases outside here

>>279933618
If you're still around and in the mood to draw: https://litter.catbox.moe/0r2eeipba6my1qy4.jpg

And here comes the opposite of a manga getting tons of attention here but it's bombing since the start cough Syd cough

>>279977126
>Spoiler
Honestly, it's just one guy who's TOO obsessed about it.

>1 becomes the actual next big thing
>the other two axed and forgotten
Such many cases

>>279977126
Dude you cannot be this upset that Bokubenfags would rather read Syd than Himaten

>>279977176
>>279977126
Did people really like Bokuben that much that they're willing to read that "detective" manga that felt so shallow?

>>279977220
Chihiro at the middle felt like unintentional hindsight

>>279977126
Add Kiyoshi too

>>279976690
>Using terminology to explain poor writing
Seems like those 60k readers all have that attention issue you talk about

>>279977025
Why is this guy obsessed with WSJ? He already popular thanks to Kuroko already, he should move to another mag to enjoy slow life and strive to be healthy

>>279977000
KGB got hit with the WSJ Morbius hard

>>279977431
You're saying this when Shinohara is 51 and Witch Watch is his third serialized manga

>>279977431
>"Why shouldn't I be in the magazine that granted me success in the first place"

>>279946336 (OP)

is this the worse jump roster of all time?

>>279977562
I think Fujimaki should feel ashamed that Kill Blue went longer than his dream golf manga

tenmaku mogs the axebaits released in the past year, fuck nakano

>>279977641
I have a schizo theory that he wrote Kill Blue as a joke but then it actually kept on living and he had no choice but to actually keep drawing it

>>279977467
>>279977562
Popularity, anon
I'm sure Kuroko is bigger or already more successful than Sket Dance, Astra was a failed attempt, so he came back with something as mediocre as WW... At least the anime was well-received, unlike Sakamoto

All authors get 3 attempts to make it big in WSJ but usually they stop after their first or 2nd attempt was a success, there's nothing good about a weekly schedule and they barely get enough sleep

>>279977641
Kek

>>279977437
Still not sure if the memes helped or harmed KGB, on one hand it drew more attention to the series. However on the other it made a lot of people disregard it as a joke and not really give it a chance.

>>279977810
before such a big group of kgb haters formed, it was simply kgb vs nakano. people in on the meme, people peeping new wsj series, people looking for a new fanbase schizo series after jjk/snk/csm p1, people who simply liked katanas. it was a united front against nakano, and when he fell, the contrarians got louder and attempted to diminish every little victory we got.

>>279977562
Somehow you remind me of Samurai 8 and how Kishi became a laughing stock on the internet