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What drives a mangaka to autistically hyper-focus on a single childish story for their entire life and die young while barely enjoying fame and fortune? How do they ignore the voice in their head screaming, "Holy shit, retard! You're wasting your one shot at existence on a shallow, ugly, repetitive battle shonen!"
Anonymous No.280004792 [Report] >>280008574 >>280010154 >>280013087 >>280021031 >>280027746
>>280004485 (OP)
>what causes people to do the things they like instead of the things I would do????
Anonymous No.280005058 [Report] >>280026723
>>280004485 (OP)
They bring something good to this world.
You bring shitty seethe on neo nu /a/
Anonymous No.280005130 [Report] >>280005176 >>280005283 >>280005539 >>280005592 >>280005628 >>280006972 >>280007055 >>280008209 >>280010193 >>280013090 >>280017342 >>280019946 >>280020665 >>280025747 >>280026433 >>280026525 >>280026906 >>280028168
>>280004485 (OP)
one piece is one of the greatest works of fantasy ever made, its up there with the Lord of the rings or discworld.
Oda spent his life to give us a masterpiece.
Anonymous No.280005176 [Report] >>280005204 >>280005233
>>280005130
>greatest works of fantasy ever made,
>Lord of the rings or discworld.
lol wow
Anonymous No.280005204 [Report]
>>280005176
Maybe not Lotr, but it’s way better then discworld
Anonymous No.280005233 [Report] >>280005299
>>280005176
we get it, popular=bad
I'm sure you could recommend some shit I've never heard of that I would enjoy but the point f the comparison is to use well known works that people are familiar with.
Anonymous No.280005255 [Report] >>280011221 >>280026989 >>280028873
>>280004485 (OP)
Money
Anonymous No.280005283 [Report] >>280005311
>>280005130
You need to read more. And I don't mean comics.
Anonymous No.280005299 [Report] >>280005335
>>280005233
>recommend
Wrong website newgirl
Anonymous No.280005311 [Report] >>280005381 >>280005383 >>280008281 >>280028569 >>280028946
>>280005283
give me some recommendations.
this is a sincere request that I'm asking on good faith.
Anonymous No.280005335 [Report]
>>280005299
I did not ask you for recs, idiot.
Anonymous No.280005381 [Report] >>280005421 >>280005480 >>280007098
>>280005311
Read The Book of the New Sun, The Black Company, The Nine Princes in Amber, and Lyonesse.
Anonymous No.280005383 [Report]
>>280005311
Go fuck yourself.
Anonymous No.280005421 [Report]
>>280005381
thanks, ive been interested in the book of the new sun and the black company series for a long time so I'll try them out.
Anonymous No.280005452 [Report]
>>280004485 (OP)
>why do some people have a creative drive, why aren't they shallow materialistic hedonists like me?
You have no foreskin
Anonymous No.280005480 [Report] >>280005631
>>280005381
>Book of the New Sun
Amazing but sci-fi, not fantasy
>Black Company
Ass
>Amber
Ass
>Lyonesse
This is really good, more people should read Jack Vance
Anonymous No.280005539 [Report] >>280005611 >>280005913
>>280005130
how fat are you
how is your love life
how much do you make per year
im asking on good faith
Anonymous No.280005592 [Report]
>>280005130
what's your political view?
Anonymous No.280005611 [Report]
>>280005539
lol
Anonymous No.280005628 [Report]
>>280005130
do wanpissfags really believe this?
Anonymous No.280005631 [Report] >>280005816
>>280005480
>Black Company
>Ass
Anon is a faggot, but I can't let that slide.
Anonymous No.280005749 [Report] >>280005789
>>280004485 (OP)
The Wan Piss dude is dead?
Anonymous No.280005789 [Report] >>280007969
>>280005749
He has a serious illness.
Anonymous No.280005816 [Report]
>>280005631
I read the first three books. The cool initial premise of "mercenaries who work for the evil people in a fantasy world" is instantly abandoned and replaced with a generic "ragtag bunch of heroes help the chosen one defeat an ancient evil" storyline.
The only part of Black Company I liked was the camraderie and goofing around among the soldiers and I get more of that in Malazan anyway.
Anonymous No.280005819 [Report]
>>280004485 (OP)
Money
Anonymous No.280005913 [Report]
>>280005539
I eat 10 sandviches a day if Medic is not on team.
Medic is good comrad.
It cost 400,000 dollars to fire my weapon for 12 seconds.
Anonymous No.280005957 [Report]
What drives people to work at McDonalds their whole life?
Anonymous No.280006113 [Report]
>>280004485 (OP)
To be fair it used to be really good and now he is too old (and rich) to care that the quality has dipped significantly
Anonymous No.280006972 [Report]
>>280005130
>its up there with the Lord of the rings or discworld.
i mean yeah, probably the best shit you'll ever read when you're 12 below since all of them are made for children.
Anonymous No.280007055 [Report]
>>280005130
this

praise GODA
Anonymous No.280007098 [Report]
>>280005381
botns (and botls and botss) are fucking amazing
jack vance is great too
haven't read the other two
Anonymous No.280007962 [Report]
>>280004485 (OP)
Meanwhile you will die as a broke virgin who didn't do anything in your pathetic, short life.
Anonymous No.280007969 [Report]
>>280005789
Really? Oda is sick? You're not telling lies on the internet now are you?
Anonymous No.280008119 [Report]
>>280004485 (OP)
Probably the same way you ignore the voices in your head when you post your drivel.

He's much more popular and well liked than you though. Guess he's figured something out you haven't.
Anonymous No.280008209 [Report] >>280013260
>>280005130
Read a fucking book my guy. Holy shit. I like one piece, but it's not some masterpiece comparable to Lord of the Rings. It's a comic about adventure. It's fun, it has some "adult" themes, but to claim it's on the same level as lord of the rings is just wrong. I don't even really like LotR that much, I'm just aware of it's quality.
Anonymous No.280008281 [Report] >>280008360 >>280011995 >>280012580
>>280005311
The Illiad, The Odyssey, Huck Finn, Tom Sawyer, The Epic of Gilgamesh, the Aneid, Journey to the West, Lord of the Rings, Industrial Society and it's Consequences.
Anonymous No.280008360 [Report] >>280008562
>>280008281
You got more than one of these titles wrong...
Anonymous No.280008408 [Report]
>280005130
Pre-timeskip, i could agree to it being up there, but the timeskip ruined it and turned it into slop
Anonymous No.280008458 [Report]
>>280004485 (OP)
Not going to argue with the main point, but... Japanese like Eiichiro Oda generally believe in reincarnation, so spewing your archetypical Christian-rooted "one shot at..." is just dumb.
Anonymous No.280008562 [Report] >>280008698
>>280008360
Which ones? Aenid probably. Pretty sure everything else is right.
Anonymous No.280008574 [Report]
>>280004792
I fucking kek'ed
thread should had ended here wtf
Anonymous No.280008698 [Report] >>280008766
>>280008562
>The Iliad
>Industrial Society and It's Future
And if I wanted to be pedantic
>The Adventures of Tom Sawyer
>Adventures of Huckleberry Finn
Anonymous No.280008766 [Report] >>280008919
>>280008698
You're being pedantic anyway with calling out typos on an internet image board.
Anonymous No.280008919 [Report] >>280009073 >>280009130 >>280011626 >>280019834
>>280008766
You tried to show off by telling someone to read books the titles of which you cannot type properly, you're going in the idiot folder regardless of how pedantic I am.
Anonymous No.280009073 [Report] >>280009452 >>280009642 >>280019900
>>280008919
Nta, but...
>Oh no! The search engine used to search won't fix that!
>Oh no! An terminally online pedantic faggot who has a folder full of "owns" from an online weeabo board will put the conversation in the previously mentioned folder!
>Oh no! Surely, SURELY my social standing on this anonymous site will be irreparably harmed and other anonymous posters will see it and immediately link it to my post history, thereby making me some sort of pariah!
>Oh no! How will I ever recover from this?!
Lol. Lmfao, even. You're a huge faggot. Screenshot and "put it in your folder", gay boy, immortalize it. Lol.
Anonymous No.280009130 [Report] >>280009332
>>280008919
>showing off
No, the person asked for books so I gave them some of my favorite books. You're extremely pedantic and trying to be smug. Are you one of those people who say "oh you like X? Name 3 of their albums or you don't like them"? You sure sound like it
Anonymous No.280009332 [Report] >>280009623
>>280009130
Those are not your favorite books. You don't even know their titles. I doubt you've ever read any of them.
Anonymous No.280009452 [Report]
>>280009073
holy crashout lmao
Anonymous No.280009623 [Report] >>280009842
>>280009332
I've read all of them. I even had to translate the aenid for Latin class. It's okay, very obviously written for nationalist propaganda, but I like Rome a lot. LotR I never finished, admittedly but i didn't hate it, other things came up and I never got back to it.

You sure like being smug a lot. You seem a little upset that someone spells things wrong while phone posting and extrapolate that the person must be lying.

I also listed them because they're famous and great works of the world. Everyone should read them. The person I suggested them to has probably heard of them in some way, shape, or form.
Anonymous No.280009642 [Report] >>280009832
>>280009073
so this is high iq behavior... sugoi... the refined way one can carry themselves only after bathing in the divine scripture of the iliad and huck finn...
Anonymous No.280009832 [Report] >>280009888
>>280009642
What the fuck is huck Finn? No one has ever heard of that. I can't even imagine what your reffering to. What the fuck is huck finn?
Anonymous No.280009842 [Report] >>280010182
>>280009623
>phone posting
He says this as if it's socially acceptable to do so
Anonymous No.280009888 [Report] >>280010252
>>280009832
You're really hung up on this move on already
Anonymous No.280010038 [Report] >>280010094
One Piece stands as a monumental achievement in storytelling and world-building, demonstrating an unparalleled ability to sustain a complex narrative over a very long period while maintaining high quality and thematic depth. Its global impact and dedicated fanbase are undeniable. While the style and format differ, the sheer scale of its imaginative scope, the depth of its characters, and the intricate tapestry of its narrative earn it a place in conversations about truly influential and enduring fictional works, even alongside literary giants like Lord of the Rings and Dune. It has certainly carved out its own unique and significant legacy. I short, cope.
Anonymous No.280010094 [Report]
>>280010038
Based Piratechad. One Piece is a religious epic. One Piece has far surpassed the medium of manga and comic books. It has ventured into the realm of mythology.

One Piece is a masterpiece. No one in the modern age can write a story arc that takes place in a short amount of time with dozens of factions and characters at play, focusing on hundreds of plot points, building up a big climax while also delivering emotional payoff to every single one of those plot-points. There's not a single plot point that does not have a resolution in One Piece. It manages to do all of that while also tackling thought provoking themes and introducing characters that are infinitely more morally interesting than any other story that came before it. One Piece is the type of story you would see in ancient religious and fantasy epics like The Divine Comedy, Odyssey or Mahabharata that are hundreds of years old. No modern authors can replicate a story as masterful as One Piece.
Anonymous No.280010154 [Report] >>280013620
>>280004792
>he thinks anyone likes being a weekly mangaka
dumb newfaggot
Anonymous No.280010182 [Report] >>280011382
>>280009842
Why would I care what a board on 4chan finds as socially acceptable? Why wouldn't I post online while at work? From typos to tech, you really are a needlessly smug fag. Phone posting and typos do not detract from any of my points in terms of logic or rhetoric, you're just pointing stuff out because it makes you feel superior to do so. Instead of engaging in conversation, you nit pick to feel superior. How's that power process working out for you?
Anonymous No.280010193 [Report]
>>280005130
Anonymous No.280010252 [Report] >>280010369
>>280009888
What the fuck is huck finn? If someone doesn't use the exact name of an extremely popular, well known, and historic work of literature in a comment offering alternative works to read, I'll never understand what they mean.

Since I have you, what does "lotr" mean? Is it a typo for "lots"? You're so good at typos I'd figure you'd know.
Anonymous No.280010369 [Report] >>280010480
>>280010252
Anon, nobody except you has ever brought up this whole "you can't find this book unless the title is exactly correct", you missed the point completely.
Anonymous No.280010480 [Report] >>280010917
>>280010369
Then whats the point? why be so pedantic about it? To what end? Social credit? Smug satisfaction? To accuse someone of never reading the books because of a typo? What's the point at all? You started it, faggot.
Anonymous No.280010862 [Report]
>>280004485 (OP)
Once his series started selling like dragonball, its not like he had a choice. One Piece is a world wide miracle of merchandising. Theres probably a billion dollars worth of one piece video games, figures, and other shit sold every year. There are entire livelihoods that depend on Oda churning more of this shit out. Its like a civic responsibility for him to make as much one piece as possible before dying.
Anonymous No.280010917 [Report] >>280011289
>>280010480
>Smug satisfaction
Stop projecting.
Anonymous No.280011221 [Report]
>>280005255
/thread
Anonymous No.280011225 [Report] >>280011334 >>280012667 >>280027113
We can all agree Pissbabies are illiterate. What are come works that a Hunterchad should read? Some Schopenhauer and Kant, obviously. Maybe Gödel, Escher, Bach: An Eternal Golden Braid for some light reading on the toilet. Grey's Anatomy. Bottom's Dream by Arno Schmidt.
Anonymous No.280011289 [Report] >>280011362
>>280010917
Terrible deflection. Answer my question.
Anonymous No.280011334 [Report]
>>280011225
This might have been the gayest thing I've ever read
>hunterxhunter
That shit is Great Value DragonBall. It sucks. It's like a dragonball fanfiction that someone crammed a bunch of OC characters into
Anonymous No.280011351 [Report] >>280011559
>>280004485 (OP)
Holy shit, retard! You're wasting your one shot at existence on a shallow, ugly, repetitive imageboard!
Anonymous No.280011362 [Report]
>>280011289
The point is simple:
>try to appear smart and cultured by recommending a bunch of books
>get all but two of their titles wrong because you're a moron, thereby undermining your attempt at appearing sophisticated
The only one of them I'll believe you've actually read is Industrial Society and Its Future because Uncle Ted couldn't spell for shit either lol
Anonymous No.280011382 [Report] >>280011595 >>280011872
>>280010182
It detracts from the nature of an anonymous imageboard if you start blogpost like a faggot redditor and it detracts from the writing if you make typos due to being a phoneposter. Someone can comment on the faggotry. It's that simple.
Anonymous No.280011559 [Report]
>>280011351
This.
Yikers!
Anonymous No.280011595 [Report]
>>280011382
Stop deflecting and answer my question you smug faggot
Anonymous No.280011626 [Report]
>>280008919
You are in the right here and you totally owned that fucking nigger faggot bitch. I can't fucking imagine rattling off baby's first world classics and then misspelling them all. Couldn't be me.
Anonymous No.280011872 [Report] >>280011885 >>280011967
>>280011382
>it detracts from an anonymous message board if you can just post anonymously from any location
Lol what? I'm not allowed to phone post because it'll be blog post and not be anonymous? Does effort posting also fall under that? If I never said I was phone posting you'd never know. You're such a faggot. You're telling me to post in a way that makes you happy because...well because you'll be a little upset! Lol get out of here. Show me a "no phone postong" rule, an actual 4chan rule, and I'd say "that's fucking dumb". It doesn't exist! Why? Because that'd be really fucking dumb.
Anonymous No.280011885 [Report] >>280012242
>>280011872
Stupid phone poster
Anonymous No.280011967 [Report] >>280012242
>>280011872
Anonymous No.280011995 [Report] >>280012358 >>280012626
>>280008281
holy lack of personality, batman!
Anonymous No.280012242 [Report] >>280012304
>>280011885
>>280011967
Nice rebuttal faggot. Cope and seethe, cause you got nothing. I'll continue to phone post all I want and you'll not only never know, you'll never be able to stop me. And you know what else you'll never be able to do? Be a woman.
Anonymous No.280012304 [Report] >>280012414
>>280012242
We'll know the moment we see your phoneposting filenames, and then there will be a reckoning
Anonymous No.280012358 [Report] >>280012483
>>280011995
>you have to like modern stuff and not legendary classics because otherwise you won't have a personality
Seriously? What, did culture only come into existence in the last 50 years? I'd say the fact these works are still celebrated means they're better than whatever slop you think has "personality". Not enough one liners and le epic marvel Thanos for you?
Anonymous No.280012414 [Report] >>280012511
>>280012304
>a reckoning
Oh no! Empty threats! I sure hope nothing will happen!

Also, I haven't even posted a file this thread. If I hadn't mentioned it, you'd never know I'm phone posting at work.
Anonymous No.280012483 [Report] >>280012723
>>280012358
You dislike quipping titans? Witty giants not to your taste? How can you be a human being, claim to love "the classics" and then not list Rabelais' work among your favorites?
I bet you don't even know what thing in this world is best for wiping your ass.
It's the neck of a goose, you uncultured swine, you plebeian pygmy!
Anonymous No.280012511 [Report] >>280012641
>>280012414
>I haven't even posted a file in this thread
We know, because your file names would instantly be recognizable as those of a phoneposter if you did so.
Anonymous No.280012580 [Report] >>280012848
>>280008281
Most of those are shit since they were written 3000 years ago
Anonymous No.280012626 [Report] >>280012694 >>280012922
>>280011995
yep, very pretentious.
Anonymous No.280012641 [Report]
>>280012511
>if you did the thing that you didn't do, we'd know that you did the thing
Riveting. That's some grade A logic right there. Also, no you wouldn't lol. Show me a phone file name vs a non phone file name. You're making empty threats about a rule that doesn't exist. Sad!
Anonymous No.280012667 [Report]
>>280011225
HxH is trannyslop, but I guess white people love anything related to trannies
Anonymous No.280012694 [Report]
>>280012626
At least he didn't name Ulysses, Gravity's Rainbow, Blood Meridian and Infinite Jest
Anonymous No.280012723 [Report] >>280012789
>>280012483
Sorry, Joss Wheadon. I like quips when they're not over saturated. Like, Shakespeare has a bunch of quips, but theater is a different beast, and he also has a bunch of regular dialog.

As for Rabelias, I've never heard of them. Any works you could recommend? I'd be down to give it a shot.
Anonymous No.280012789 [Report] >>280012860 >>280013010
>>280012723
>I've never heard of them
Lol
LMAO even
>what is Garantua & Pantagruel
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gargantua_and_Pantagruel
Anonymous No.280012848 [Report]
>>280012580
They must not be if they're still around today and constantly lifted from. In fact I'd wager they're some of the best works ever written considering their staying power and impact on world culture.
>because it wasn't written in the last 25 years, it must not be good.
Lol. Sure.
Anonymous No.280012860 [Report] >>280013010 >>280013040
>>280012789
>after all this, it was I who made a minor typo
I give up. I've failed as a human being and a snob.
Anonymous No.280012922 [Report] >>280013045
>>280012626
>it's pretentious to like legendary works that everyone has heard of
>"you're not allowed to like the best things. If you like categorically good things, it means you're pretenious"
Why the fuck would I like bad things?
Anonymous No.280013010 [Report]
>>280012789
Oh cool. Never heard of this guy. Says he's similar to Shakespeare so I'll probably like them. Thanks for the recommendation.
>>280012860
It's okay. I'm not going to gloat. Know why? Because it doesn't matter, I understood the information you were attempting to relay.
Anonymous No.280013040 [Report]
>>280012860
Anonymous No.280013045 [Report] >>280013153
>>280012922
Are you a robot? Human beings with personality have flaws and like flawed, imperfect things. Having a safe list of classics as your "favorites" just shows either a complete lack of an actualized personality, or a severe fear of being judged.
It's like going into a 3x3 thread with all the safe picks, no individual taste at all, just what's "approved of" by others.
Real people like shitty things also
Anonymous No.280013087 [Report]
>>280004792
FPBP. Thread should have ended here and OP should have been rangebanned for being a tourist.
Anonymous No.280013090 [Report]
>>280005130
the bait was decent, it got (You)s and wan pissers bit the bait after the other retards fell for it
not too shabby
Anonymous No.280013153 [Report] >>280013229
>>280013045
Yeah and I was recommending stuff to someone. Why would I list things they wouldn't like but I do? They want broadened horizons, so give them stuff that's universally good.

Also, someone not liking good things doesn't mean they aren't human. I understand liking bad things because they appeal to you for whatever reason, but to disregard selected favorites because they're "safe" is a load of shit. You're fighting yourself if you say "you're not allowed to like these things because everyone likes these things". Everyone likes those things because they're generally good. I could name objectively bad things I like, but why would I name things I know are bad to someone who wants to read good books?
Anonymous No.280013229 [Report] >>280013382
>>280013153
why recommend something that
>everyone has heard of
why not recommend them the bible or the quran while you're at it
Anonymous No.280013231 [Report]
>>280004485 (OP)
i 100% agree with op, though in case on one piss i guess an exception is in order.

but like the dudes who wrote bleach/naruto/etc?

holy yikes
Anonymous No.280013260 [Report] >>280013468
>>280008209
lotr doesn't have themes. it's shounenshit for western boomers
Anonymous No.280013382 [Report] >>280013406
>>280013229
The Bible actually is a good story, well the new testament. Never read the Quran.

Why recommend it? To start a dialog. So he can say "I've read those. What else?" Or "I haven't read those! Can you tell me more?" and then we go from there so I'm not fan dumping my more niche favorites on someone I know nothing about.
Anonymous No.280013406 [Report] >>280013544
>>280013382
go read the quran, it's more of a "legendary classic" than any of your recommendations
Anonymous No.280013468 [Report] >>280013613
>>280013260
>doesn't have themes
Well you're stupid. I dont know what to say. It absolutely has themes.
>good will triumph
>small people can do amazing things
>friendship and brotherhood
To name a few.
Anonymous No.280013544 [Report] >>280013594
>>280013406
Not interested, desu. Thanks tho. That said it's definitely not as legendary as the Bible or the Homer epics. Probably more than the aenid, as I don't know many people who know what that is.
Anonymous No.280013583 [Report]
Who is bigger these days, Oda or Tolkien?
Anonymous No.280013594 [Report] >>280013906
>>280013544
it's far more legendary, yes
Anonymous No.280013613 [Report] >>280013718
>>280013468
>>good will triumph
>>small people can do amazing things
>>friendship and brotherhood
those are literal shounenshit ""themes""
Anonymous No.280013620 [Report]
>>280010154
You’re trying way too hard to fit in. Lurk another couple years.
Anonymous No.280013718 [Report] >>280014031
>>280013613
Shonen doesn't have a monopoly on themes. This might surprise you, but things like literary themes are unique nor were they invented by manga! In fact there are things with popular themes that predate manga and anime. Crazy! Did you know themes are repeated often across all works? Its crazy but true!

Also you said "it doesn't have themes" then I listed some. So you're just wrong all around.
Anonymous No.280013906 [Report]
>>280013594
Yeah like I said, few actually know the aenid exists. Are you Muslim? I ask because I'm wondering if you're recommending it as a philosophy, religious, or story type of work.
Anonymous No.280014031 [Report] >>280014250
>>280013718
the point is writing kiddie shit for 50+ years
Anonymous No.280014250 [Report] >>280014328
>>280014031
So what are you trying to say? You don't like common, popular themes? OK, aside from personal taste against the themes, it's still an objectively well written story. Kids can read it, yeah, but I doubt they'd like it all that much as the themes aren't presented in the same way Shonen manga presents them.
Anonymous No.280014290 [Report]
>>280004485 (OP)
>why does he keep doing the job that has earned him a shit ton of money
He should milk it for another 30 years. he deserves it.
Anonymous No.280014328 [Report] >>280014845 >>280015019 >>280025712
>>280014250
i'll use a food metaphor so you can understand what op means: imagine wanting to become a cook, because you want people to eat good food. then imagine working 50y at mcdonalds. and FINALLY imagine being unironically proud of your burgerflipping career
Anonymous No.280014565 [Report]
>>280004485 (OP)
It really depends on how good their work is. If it's something akin to Berserk, then it is worth to put your entire life in it. But if it's the same dragged on battle shounen, with the same fucking retarded main character, for 30+ years, then it IS a waste of time. I mean, i like some battle shounen, like Dragon Ball, and JoJo. But Toriyama wrapped up in 11 years with DB. And as for JoJo, at least it's a different story with different characters each part. And no, sales don't make a work the best of its category. Popularity don't make something great. One Piece is not even remotely the greatest manga, from an artistic and literary point of view, just because of its outstanding success.

But let's admit it. What Oda really cares about is popularity and success, not artistic value. You have to be blind not to see it. He said himself in some interviews that if fans would guess correctly the ending he would change it. Think about it for a minute. How many times has this happened in the past? How many times did he change the story just because the readers caught on something. Is this how an author who really loves his work would act? And there are plenty of other evidences, from interviews and various comments, on what Oda really values more than anything else. All of them involve appealing to the larger common denominator.
Anonymous No.280014845 [Report] >>280017133
>>280014328
That doesn't work because food has a lot to do with ingredient quality. McDs has bad ingredients. Also, what's wrong with being proud of your work do long as your not pig headed? What's wrong with making a really good burger? Burgers are great. And the skills working as a cook somewhere definitely can translate in personal life, even if it's just a frycook.

Sorry you tries talking down to me by making a food analogy and then it not landing. Golly gee, nii-chan, that's sort of embarrassing...
Anonymous No.280015019 [Report] >>280015120 >>280017133
>>280014328
Also, Tolkien wasn't stupid either.the dude was a language professor and created his own language and syntax when he made the Silmilrilian. He wasn't a braggart either from what I understand. At least oda has put thought into his work and, despite editors making changes, still has kept his work coherent and more or less consistent and has an end to his idea. Not many manga authors do that, or can continue like he has been.
Anonymous No.280015120 [Report]
>>280015019
>created his own language and syntax when he made the Silmilrilian
Tolkien created the language and myths before he even wrote The Hobbit. Just for personal fun. That was a real example of someone who believed in what he created. Unlike One Piece, which is a selling cash cow for Shueisha, and a merely a source of ego for Oda without any artistic belief.
Anonymous No.280015559 [Report]
>>280004485 (OP)
>What drives a mangaka to autistically hyper-focus on a single childish story for their entire life

Being the most successful and best selling manga would do that. You might not like it becuase you never bothered reading it... but it truely is the greatest manga out there.
Anonymous No.280017133 [Report]
>>280014845
>McDs has bad ingredients.
this isn't true since now mcd uses local ingredients, so it depends on the country and local meat and stuff
>wagie cope
>>280015019
appeal to education. lotr is avatar tier. cameron also invented a new language for navii, but that doesn't mean shit because both are fast food, regardless of the ingredients or how you package them
Anonymous No.280017342 [Report]
>>280005130
Bro only reads shonen jump and Wikipedia pages. You’ve never actually touched a book in your life.
Anonymous No.280019834 [Report]
>>280008919
>You tried to show off by telling someone to read books the titles of which you cannot type properly
Kek, how sad.
Anonymous No.280019900 [Report]
>>280009073
Absolutely losing it.
Anonymous No.280019946 [Report] >>280020860
>>280005130
>Tolkienfags all butthurt about the truth
Tolkien used a whole page just to describe a room.
Anonymous No.280020665 [Report]
>>280005130
Lmao
Anonymous No.280020673 [Report]
To some people, making something extremely culturally influential, not to mention successful, is something to be proud of. I personally would prefer to make multiple things too but OP is doing well how it is. There's no way to know if Oda's still passionate about it or if he's being leveraged to continue but it's not unthinkable that someone would enjoy doing this. And Oda's continuing to regularly work on it unlike Miura and Togashi (though Togashi has more series than HXH).
Anonymous No.280020860 [Report]
>>280019946
>Tolkien used a whole page just to describe a room.
Good art takes its time
Anonymous No.280021031 [Report] >>280022141
>>280004792
Not OP, but some people romanticize, and idealize being a mangaka.
Someone like Oda has to deal with editors,
and probably weird ways to justify the money they make.
Like having to make that awful Netflix show.

I could draw as a kid, and liked it.
But then I decided to get serious about it and got better,
and that's when I quit. It was not worth it.
You can do so much more with that time.
You can do nothing also if you want.

Maybe people romanticize the supposed huge money that you'd get,
but when you have money you have to find what to do with it.
If you have nothing to do with it, then you start thinking:
what's the point of me having it then?
Anonymous No.280022141 [Report]
>>280021031
>But then I decided to get serious about it and got better,
>and that's when I quit. It was not worth it.
Why is it not worth it?
Anonymous No.280022197 [Report] >>280025149
>>280004485 (OP)
didn't One piece just recently beat both Batman and superman for best selling book franchise? and its on its way to out sell lord of the rings?
Anonymous No.280025149 [Report] >>280026487
>>280022197
Nah, Warm Piss will never beat Superman
Anonymous No.280025712 [Report]
>>280014328
Fastest way to spot a pseud is to ask their opinion on McDonalds.
Anonymous No.280025747 [Report]
>>280004485 (OP)
>>280005130
But Oda is alive
Anonymous No.280026433 [Report]
>>280005130
what next? you're going to say he's better than shakespeare?
Anonymous No.280026472 [Report]
>>280004485 (OP)
ambition
Anonymous No.280026487 [Report]
>>280025149
It's only 80 million away
Unless there's a sudden comic renaissance or Oda drops dead, I think it'll pass it eventually
Anonymous No.280026525 [Report]
>>280005130
pray this isn't real
Anonymous No.280026723 [Report]
>>280005058
>neo nu /a/
is it really this bad tho
Anonymous No.280026906 [Report]
>>280005130
>greatest works of fantasy ever made
>like discworld
Anon you forgot your ultimate masterpiece Avengers endgame
Anonymous No.280026989 [Report]
Basically this >>280005255
that's why a good chunk of mangaka just end up doing a bunch of sequels and side stories once a series ends
Anonymous No.280027068 [Report]
>>280004485 (OP)
Those guys are extremely lucky and their luck can end at any moment.
Anonymous No.280027113 [Report]
>>280011225
>yapper X yapper
Anonymous No.280027687 [Report]
>>280004485 (OP)
LEGEND HAS IT, He drew all his manga... In ONE PIECE
Anonymous No.280027746 [Report]
>>280004792
fpbp
Anonymous No.280027997 [Report]
>>280004485 (OP)
It's called passion, you'd understand that if you weren't a wage slave stuck being a consoomer constantly seething at creators
Anonymous No.280028168 [Report]
>>280005130
whats the appeal of lotr? dont get me wrong i dont understand the appeal of op either?
Anonymous No.280028202 [Report]
>>280004485 (OP)
He struck gold with One Piece. Why take risks? You would do the same thing he did. I sure would. He could end it any moment and live the rest of his life in wealth from the licensing and whatnot so he probably enjoys working on it. I'd guess he has so many assistants that it's not that taxing on him.
I think he said in some interview that he put all the ideas that he had for other series' in One Piece already.
Anonymous No.280028387 [Report]
>>280004485 (OP)
And what have you done better? You say that like you're equipped to judge human life as if you've mastered all that they've achieved. Your arrogance is like nails on a chalkboard
Anonymous No.280028569 [Report]
>>280005311
Iliad (Pope)
Odyssey (Chapman)
Metamorphoses (Golding)
Bible (KJV)
Divine Comedy (Longfellow)
Paradise Lost (Milton)
Rape of the Lock (Pope)
Anonymous No.280028873 [Report]
>>280005255
I don't think money is always the answer. Some people are just workaholics who can't stop themselves. Oda is probably one of them considering that he needed Shuueisha to force him to take breaks.
Anonymous No.280028946 [Report]
>>280005311
If you like the dystopian aspects of the World Government in One Piece, maybe you'll like:
-1984 (George Orwell), my favorite book ever for how deeply he explores the methods, and the real subconscious motives, of authoritarian regimes.
-Animal Farm (Orwell)
-Fahrenheit 451 (Ray Bradbury)

Otherwise for sci-fi/fantasy:
-Lord of Light (Roger Zelazny)
-Chronicles of Amber (first cycle only) (Zelazny)
-I, Robot (Asimov)
-This Immortal (Zelazny)
-Dune (Herbert)
-Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep? (P.H. Dick)

Check out other works of these author too. Most manga/anime are trash from a writing point of view, when compared to good books. Of course you can find trash in literature too, but only a very small percentage of manga, the very peak of their genre, can be compared to a mere good book from a renown author.
Anonymous No.280029903 [Report]
>this is the quality of posting of antiOPfags
Heh.
Anonymous No.280029948 [Report]
he should learn a new language hand over the series and go make comics else where
Anonymous No.280031759 [Report]
>>280004485 (OP)
It ain't a bad story.

But when you break it down it's an incredibly repetitive story. It's literally "Rightful King Returns" over and over again. Expect more of the same in the final arc.
>The Great Kingdom was run by a Great Tyrant
>But ackshually, they weren't that bad but framed by the actual villains who took over
>WG gets overthrown and the throne and the Great Kingdom is restored.