We needed more Melissa scenes.
How do we feel about this?
>bad reviews? Just deleted them all senpai
>>280077876I seriously doubt they would pay MAL to delete reviews when they haven't put any budget at all into marketing in the west, and haven't even released dubs yet.
>>280077907It got like 20 reviews just a few hours ago
>>280077907Now its 0
Must be the work of an enemy beyonder!!!!
>>280077620man the animation is really good
I already read the novel so I'm just going to enjoy the eye candy
>>280077992If they deleted positive reviews too then that ruins your narrative.
>>280077876>>280077907>>280077992IIRC you need to watch at least 3 episodes to review it, no?
>>280078019https://myanimelist.net/profile/1kirua_aim
Because the faggot that reviewed it positively is a fucking 10/10 shill lolllllll
>>280078091>they're paid to shill by deleting negative reviews>but they deleted the shill review too because....lollllll!We get it, you're going to camp the thread to shitpost until you go to sleep then repeat the next day until the show stops airing. What a sad life.
>>280077489 (OP)Lord of Tranny Men
>>280078184>the trannies are evilBased.
>>280078133The shill is too obvious, so they have to delete it, i guess they are a bit smarter than you
>>280078208I hope for your sake you're just trolling and don't actually believe your mentally ill ravings.
>>280078184There is a pathway that turns men into women kek
clothes look pretty nice for being poor
>>280078238trolls are mentally ill either way
>>280078254>Demoness PathwayEven the Chinese know that trannies sprang from the depth of hell.
>>280078238Ohhh let me hear your juicy theory about the missing reviews then wise anon
Are they missing like all the cut content in ep 1 and 2 kek
>>280078288And yet they go on and on about how much better they are than real women and how all the isekaijins fuck them over and over
>>280078351Looks like your AI summary fed you some wrong info, try reading the novel next time.
>>280078413It's okay though because them being better than real women is magic or something
>>280078455Not sure what you were going for by confirming you just read AI summaries to shitpost, but thanks for proving me right I guess.
tried to watch this but the obnoxious effects almost gave me a seizure. is this the kind of slop chinks watch?
>>280077489 (OP)>>280077620artstyle reminds me of jigokuraku for some reason
also qrd on this one?
iirc its from a chink novel and there's no romance involve but other than that i have no idea
>>280078504Yeah they made tiktok
>>280078492>potions are not magicSad tranny cope
>>280077489 (OP)Ok, went through the 2 episodes and looks pretty good.
But holly shit do they skip a lot of stuff & I mean A LOT.
>>280077489 (OP)This is a bad adaptation.
>>280078540Read the novel
>And to those who say, "There are only 13 episodes, so they had to condense the content," I have to ask, who the hell are you making excuses for? Did the audience demand it be only 13 episodes? No, you're the ones who only produced 13 episodes' worth of content!
first time I agree with review comment, yeah why crippled yourself by limiting the amount of episode, everyone want 24 episode at minimum.
>>280078573Trust the plan
As someone who has read the original novel, I have no idea what the point of making this animation was. You're an animationโcan't you just tell the story from the novel? CAN'T YOU TELL THE STORY FROM THE NOVEL? What is this thing you've produced? A PowerPoint presentation? What great work of animation has ever been just visuals without substance? There are only 13 episodes in total, and looking at the plot of episodes 1-2, what substance is even there? What has been established? It's just a pile of pretentious and confusing dialogue and plot points with no payoff. Who do you expect to understand this?
I've read the novel, and I know it's hard to adapt into an animation. But that difficulty refers to presenting the visuals, not presenting the plot. If you don't have the confidence to actually present the novel's plot, then please, just don't make it. To produce this piece of absolute garbage and then release it globally is just a national embarrassment.
I am utterly disgusted!!!! For this animation, anyone who can give it 3 stars or more cannot possibly be a fan of the original novel. Beware of the paid shills pretending to be original fans. Disgusting!!
And to those who say, "There are only 13 episodes, so they had to condense the content," I have to ask, who the hell are you making excuses for? Did the audience demand it be only 13 episodes? No, you're the ones who only produced 13 episodes' worth of content!
Miss Audrey is also drawn to be completely unremarkable. Truly and utterly unremarkable. She doesn't deserve the title of "the most dazzling jewel of Backlund" in the slightest.
>>280077620She is dangerously cute. I wonder if he had a cute sister before the isekai. Going from having no sister at all to a cute young adult sister must be strange.
ALL THEY HAD TO DO WAS FOLLOW THE TAIWAN ARTSTYLE AAAAAA
>>280077489 (OP)They did make her super cute.
>>280078654I just took a look around Bilibili and saw the paid shills are at it again, trying to rewrite history. They're claiming that the Lord of the Mysteries novel lost many readers at the beginning because the first volume's pacing was too slow, and now that the adaptation has sped things up, the original fans are complaining that it's too fast.
To this kind of paid shill, I just want to say, go f*** yourself!! The only reason I've ever heard of novel readers dropping Lord of the Mysteries was because it's a Western fantasy with a large number of Western names, making the characters hard to remember. Now you shills are just spouting barefaced lies. Go f*** yourselves.
The reason Lord of the Mysteries became a massive hit is precisely because the plot of the first volume was brilliant enough, establishing so much rich content that it gave readers a deep sense of immersion. It made readers grieve for Old Neil's death and get excited when the foreshadowing paid off later. That's why it exploded in popularity. Now that you've turned the animation into this garbage, who do you expect will feel sad about Old Neil's death? He's just some random side character now. Would you feel sad about a random nobody dying? Oh, right, you would. After all, you paid shills will say anything, as long as you get your money.
>>280078588solo leveling has caused irreparable damage to the animation industry
>>280078625the adaptation cuts dialogue and worldbuilding to add flashy effects and OC anime-only fights with canon-breaking flashy effects
basically some dumb fuck chose to override everything that made the novel great because he wanted to make the next solo leveling
>tfw read all of the novel AND enjoy the show
Stop being so serious people and enjoy the peak we're getting.
>>280078611I wanted to see Klein learning mysticism and stuff, which was half of the reason he went with the Seer pathway. T_T
Him just knowing stuff looks silly.
From how the series portrayed it, it seems they are making beyond on a conveyor belt:
>hey you, yes you! magic exists.>want to become a wizard? come to this address>this is our secret base and our secret agents>drink this potion>now you are a wizard too, welcome to the secret wizard society>here's your gun, go and solve cases
>>280077489 (OP)look on the bright(?) side.
the fujos are latching onto leonard, so at least someone's into the show.
>>280078717>OC anime-only fightsoh yikes
>>280078772They made him turbo fujo bait in this lol.
>>280078737They literally create shit that doesn't exist and cut stuff that does. Why would I enjoy this?
>>280077554I said it, they need old japanese assistants to make a good product
>>280077620Would Klein fuck your shit up if you tried dating her?
>>280078772Well sure since this studio is famous for the big yaoi series
>>280077554But that's chinese media overall. Hoyo games do the exact same thing.
>>280078770>Him just knowing stuff looks silly.To be fair, the potions come with required knowledge(related to the path and potion).And really, do you think they're going to waste time on showing him reading a ton of books? They got story to go through!
>>280078803No, he keeps his distance to keep them safe.
>>280078673>they already create the design for half of the cast>lets remake them for the adaptationfuck them, the TW version novel already have good design
Now my only hope please don't butcher Fors and Cattleya design.
>>280078795Because it's fun and well put together. The only reason you're griping is because you know 1 of a thousand things that had to be taken out for a 30 minute time slot.
>>280078786it also made the character involved in the fight way stronger than he canonically is and it'll look retarded when he's roped into canon fights later and fails to display that same strength
it's like if in episode 2 of frieren they created an anime-only fight scene where fern effortlessly solos some demons, imagine the retarded consequences that would cause in later episodes
whoever's in charge of this adaptation should be hanged for treason
>>280078580No, I hate novels. Gonna watch the anime because it's the superior medium.
>>280078841That's my wife you're posting there anon!
>>280078862What a Chad. Imagine reading words and shit couldn't be me.
>>280078819At the start, all the rituals he knows comes from an auxiliary source.
>>280078654>>280078680>muh novelNobody cares. Anime board.
>>280078737>Leonard now can teleport around like Kakashi>Leonard biggest regret in that pregnant woman fight was his lack of skill/power unable to move fasterHow they going to fill this hole in Vol1 last fight?
>>280078819Ritual knowledge isn't baked into the potion.
>>280078937Looks shit and doesn't fit the setting.
>>280077727>no OP>just a decent EDBold choice - doesn't China realize that there's a number of different elements that go into a popular work?
BEHOLD THE BRIGHTEST JEWEL IN BACKLUND. NOT A BUG-EYED MONSTER.
>>280078925They made it super flashy, but a Sleepless would be that strong in the dark, where they were fighting. Maybe it was just a flashy dash and not a teleport? Pretty sure he didn't put them in a dream at that time but I don't remember how the fight goes in the book. Eh either way it was fun to watch.
>>280078925By buffing the hell up preggo woman, judging by the state of how they do fights
>>280078984Nah the Dong design is better.
>>280077727OP is waste of budget. Also EDs should only be in the last episode.
>>280078807Can chinks even Yaoi? Thought that would be something the ccp cracks down on
>>280078990They're strong at night, not "dimly lit rooms during the day". And teleportation is a sequence 5 power at minimum.
>>280078864You can keep that pirate whore, I'm going to stick with Ms.bodyguard
>>280079031They can before the covid, now? It got seriously cracked down
>>280079038There was no light at all. I don't even think there was a window. Either way, it was fun to watch.
>>280078990>>280079001If this red glove version of Leonard it would make sense for him to teleport around and one tapping bosses.
in the novel he put every bodyguard to sleep to clear the mission.
>>280079044Dogshit! She is pure you heathen!
So which subs are the most tolerable?
>>280079077Congratulations for being the target audience I guess.
>There was no light at all. Yes, you are the target audience.
>>280079021Yeah, why even have ED at all, another waste of budget
Voice acting too, just hire 1 dude and 1 girl for all the role, hell, may be we should tell the intern over there to do it for free with AI voice changer
>>280079119Erai-raws seems okay.
btw, what's the release schedule? Some people been talking about the later episodes, but I only found and watched the first two.
>>280079161Episode 3 comes next week
>>280077489 (OP)She looks more beautiful than Audrey.
>watch episode
>chinese dub
WHY THE FUCK IS THIS ON /a/?
at least Solo Leveling and that low quality Mushoku clone had JP dub
the audacity.
>>280079214Terrible over-designed shit.
>>280079222That's because she is
>>280079240Eng and jap dub coming within a month
>The Audience Pathway
One job lol. It's Spectator!
>>280079021>Waste of budget No it isn't. There has been numerous times where people keep watching an anime only because the opening is good.
It also makes animes stay in people's mind for longer because they remember the melody.
>>280079284The ED is catchy enough at least.
>>280079284The shills are desperate to defend this show
I still havent seen anyone of them acknowledge mal deleting reviews
>>280079284Name 5 shows where people only keep watching it because of the OP
>>280079331HANPANAI PAPPAPARA PARA! HEY!
>they fail to adapt Ms.Daly femcel aura
it's over..... the TW version win again
>>28007932699% of these threads are criticizing the adaptation. You're just some turbo schizo who thinks anyone who doesn't subscribe to your insanity to be a shill, like how far leftists think anyone who doesn't love trannies is a nazi. Get a trip already, your samefag spam is obvious.
>>280079331Oshi no ko
Mashle
Beastar
Death parade
Dandadan
>>280079360>canonically gets lots of sex>femcelretard
>>280079331nta that Zhuge Liang DJ anime OP was catchy asf, at new year party my family dance with that music, granted it's remix of nostalgia song.
>>280079368 why are they deleting reviews anon? Why? Can you tell me please?
>>280079331You don't belong here, go read your novel or something.
>>280079398These are trash lol.
>>280079394>fucking corpse
>>280079398This is probably the worst one you've posted so far.
>turned a burly mature man into a young twink
>>280079398He's supposed to look like a grizzled, handsome sailor. Not a visual-kei twink.
no homo btw
>>280079416Go ask MAL why they're blanket deleting all reviews, this is /a/, troon.
>>280079331Ergo Proxy, Hack Sign
>>280079398Alger and Mr. Azik are canonically have brown skin, TW version suck at making Male character.
>>280079360>Daly>FemcelShe was a town bicycle for most of her youth. Only when she became a hag did she want to settle down with the captain who no way fagged her.
>>280079458Cause the show is shit and they are desperate, likeโฆ shills???? Wow so shocking anon
Somebody has eyes but refuse to see mt.tai
>>280079514>it's "shilling" to delete positive reviews, which are the majority since it's rated >8 on MAL right nowI guess you have to be this mentally ill to be a dedicated shitposter.
So what I gathered from the first episode:
1. MC is from our world, but with some form of magic tradition he was pursing.
2. Due to some wierd intersection between the MCโs magic and whatever magic is going on in the other world, the MC is isekaiโd into the body of Klein.
3. MC is being followed by mysterious persons, so he takes shelter in a fortune-teller shack (thereโs a circus which will supposedly be relevant later). He speaks with a woman whoโs pretending to be the fortune-teller for some reason who gives him his present fortune of โThe Foolโ for some reason, which the MC finds meaningful (new beginnings), and he thinks itโs evidence that there is a figure in the isekai which was also isekaiโd from his world to the current one.
4. After running from the mysterious followers, he tries to do some magic from his original world, which summons him and two other people from distant locations together into a separate pocket space. The MC can control the spaceโs โgray fogโ which he immediately identifies as the โgameโs cheat systemโ, which suggests the MC believes he is an isekai MC.
5. MC immediately settles into the role of a Isekai MC by pretending to be a being of great power and insight, and learns about Beyonders and a few other new concepts of the isekaiโs magic system. For some reason the summoned individuals agree to form a special committee who regularly communicate.
6. The police interrupt his summoned space so he is forced to release it and let them in. The police mind-palace the circumstances of Klienโs supposedly attempted suicide due to magic effect using a pistol and say that the MC is very lucky to still be alive.
>>280078937cuter Audrey too
>>280079514genuine question why are you obsessed with MAL? an ai company recently bought that website, why are still using that website as a "benchmark"?
>>280079535>yeahhhh totally authentic account
>>280078937>>280079562These designs are godawful. They should have just gone with the designs from the wiki. Whoever did those knew what the fuck they were doing.
>>280079331Shikanoko Nokonoko Koshitantan
>>280079590>first he says MAL is shilling for lotm>now he's saying MAL is actually countering shilling Which is it? Actually, don't bother, you obviously have brain problems and will gladly contradict yourself in heat of the moment. Last (You).
>>280078960>doesn't fit the setting.she's literally a mechanic student, it fits perfectly
>>280079669Holy shit that guy is hot! Would you /a/?
>>280079669The lotm universe isn't some medieval atelier fantasy world, retard. These designs you're posting fit a setting where magic is widespread and integrated with society. There's a reason why the CN official art and now the anime use grounded realistic clothing.
>>280079331S-Rank Musume is one.
>>280079704I have no idea what you're talking about. Your idea of what 'fits' is based on video games? lolwut?
>>280079795If you're too stupid to understand my point, then just understand that the designs contradict canon and are therefore shit just from that alone.
>>280079825Your point only exists in your head. Nothing about the universe they're in says they can't wear clothes like that.
>>280077489 (OP)The best option we may have is a western studio will somehow pick up this Ip, then we can have live action kino
Backlund's brightest jewel
>>280079845Do mechanics irl wear overdesigned clothes with gears to let every brainlet weeb know that they're a mechanic?
>>280079875>irlThis is how you know you've lost the argument, when you equate fiction to real life. lol
>>280079894Did you even read the novel or are you just shitposting?
>>280079875>why doesn't this piece of media entertainment adopt designs based on my drab, boring reality. How dare people emphasize character traits with these useless decorations. Everyone should be wearing generic shirts and dresses!You're so pathetic I can't even
>>280079865Susie my beloved.
>>280079919When you post a redesign of a masculine mature man that turns him into a fucking twink in his 20s, it's incredibly obvious that you and the artist have zero clue about the series whatsoever.
>>280079919Anon literally sounds like some 60 year old boomer
>No! You have to do it the way I'm used to!
>>280079955>only boomers respect canonAre taichinks really this retarded?
>>280079704lol itโs basically isekai lovecraftian DBZ what the fuck are you on about?
>>280079669Damn looks like one of those overdesigned gacha slop characters
>>280077489 (OP)>isekai lovecraft with power level>MMO classes leveling bing bing upIโm sorry but the superior lovecraft adaption is already released 10 years ago. Sorry, chink
>>280079875>anonymous's perfect anime set piece.jpg
>>280080001Prove me wrong then?
>>280079875This, thanks for saying it for me anon.
>>280080028>canon is...le badYou can enjoy your non-canon twinkified Alger all you want, that doesn't make your taste less objectively shit and wrong though.
>>280079875It's the fucking Church of Steam and machinery motherfucker. This world has walker mechs with steam power, air ships, ironclad battleships, artillery and machine guns.
>>280080046If you even watched the first episode, let alone read the novel, you would immediately realize that the magic powers are all hidden from society and for all intents and purposes society at large is the same boring dull reality as our own irl, which is why they canonically dress realistically instead of being high fantasy moeblobs.
>>280080087Damn I guess MIT is doing it wrong by not having all their students dress up in clothes that scream "technology" at a glance. Stupid fucking retard.
>>280080101I'm guessing you just have zero imagination which is why you can't imagine why people would wear something else in a completely different world.
>>280079214Have a better one
>>280080125That's incredibly ironic coming from someone impotently trying to dispute literal canon. They canonically dress realistically and I gave you the reason why they do so. You don't even have enough braincells to understand the author's vision and instead shit your diapers over what you personally like to see.
>>280080101>magic powers are all hidden from societyWHOAH WOOZIEEE IโVE NEVER HEARD OF THIS PLOT BEFORE, CHINK CHONG ARE GENIUSโฆ.
>>280080121>Damn I guess (this irl boringshit place) is wrong for being fucking boring and drab piece of shit due to realityHow joyless must your life be to not even be able to conceive art and creativity inside that tiny mind
>>280080152>being surprised at something obvious in episode 1As if we needed more proof this thread is camped by trannies who just want to shitpost without knowing anything.
>>280080150>literal canonAgain, this is your headcanon. Your reasoning makes sense but does not turn your headcanon true. Get your head out of your ass.
>>280080161Go redesign MIT's student attire for them and become a millionaire. Your ideas are so great after all, right?
>>280080180>official chinese novel art isn't canon>the literal descriptions in the novel aren't canonlol, manchild
>>280077489 (OP)Novel reader here, how did /a/ like these two episodes? I'm glad I can finally talk about this series here, the other sites that talk about it suck
>>280080211I also posted official art, and you have not posted any descriptions because they are mostly vague.
>>280080227Chinese canon > taiwanese "canon". I'm not even going to bother engaging with you until you can address Alger being a twink in the taiwanese version, which you're avoiding because you know it cements your loss.
>>280080248What part of him looks like a twink? He looks tall and pretty built. You sound like you think he should look like he's on roids or something. Do you have any basis for that?
>>280080215It's never been so over, the chinese are mad, anons can't stop arguing about clothing semantics (doesn't matter how fictional the world is the design still looks like ass) audrey looks like my down syndrome nephew and we're never getting a good lotm adaptations ever again.
>>280080277He has the jawline of a woman, and looks obviously young.
>>280080215The anime is a monkey paw situation. The director wants to speedrun the first book because it's universally known to be the infodump volume to get to vol 2 faster. Also they added non-canon battles and powers to make fight scenes flashy due to aurafarm/solo leveling meme for the normies (Leonard can now teleport which is a very big plot hole). Design is mediocre and makes everyone the same level of attractiveness so now a child from a poor family is as beautiful as the brightest jewel of the kingdom. Director went on an interviewing admitting that they are rushing thw first 3 episodes and asks everyone to understand, which is fucking baffling. What kind of creator are you when you make your products shit on purpose instead of adding more episodes and ask for your audience to understand why it's shit.
>>280080295It sounds like your definition of twink is nowhere near how other people use it. How about you come back to Earth and then we can talk.
>>280080277He should look uglier and older
>>280080329You're just being dishonest if you don't think that's not a blatant young prettyboy design.
>>280080277not brown enough, he spent his time on the sea
>>280080277>Pretty built>Pencil neckNever been into a gym before and it shows. This dyel bitch just looks thin. And not a single piece of hair on that chin. Bishie tweenager looking ass design lol
>>280080277Alger canonically is supposed to look dangerous and rough, not a yumefujo ikemen love interest.
Even Demoness trannydrama is better than this shit.
>>280079875>weebThis is a Chinese work you twitternigger moron.
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md5: a2f1308e101c4c9d3ca966417fe0d547
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Change the hair color and this is what Alger is supposed to look like.
>>280080469Impossible. Every in the Tarot Club has to look somewhat young to attract the money spending audiences, old men are not allowed.
WHY THIS ISN'T THE OPENING SONG!!!
They hire these musicians and create made up language to praise mr fool and yet not using it?
https://youtu.be/R67yEtKPZPg
>>280080469He's not that old, he's in his 30s. That's more like how I imagined the wraith pirate admiral in my mind,
>>280080449>This is a Chinese work you twitternigger moronThey shouldโve stop using Japanese anime art style first lol
>>280080408stfu roid tranny
>>280080550wdym, they didn't use a shitty art style like this
>>280079398
>>280079669>>280079360>>280079044>>280078984>>280078937>>280078841Am I reading this correctly? We have all these hot female designs but the series has 0 romance?
>>280080593>femaleBorn with a dick anon.
>>280080593Zero romance whatsoever.
At least there's no cuckshit. All the girls are pure virgins even the 300 year old hag.
Only maybe wolfmommy is used goods.
>>280080593The only romance you will get is Fors making fan fiction story where she get raped by Gehram and yes she jerking off while writing it.
>>280080581That is just overdesigned generic anime art style and your donghua is generic gay fujo anime art style.
>>280080678>same pictures and shitposts every threadget a trip sperg
>>280080215The production completely ignored what people liked about the source material and decided to try and please the tiktok-brained Aura Farmingโข crowd.
>>280080539>He's not that oldThe sea gives you that weathered look.
>>280080691Itโs not my fault that chinese still copying Japanese anime art style, chang. Calm down with your inferiority complex
>>280080593They added romance in the sequel and it was a massive mistake.
>episode 12 fight with the clown
>episode 24 fight with the pregnant woman
this pacing make more sense
bootleg anime (donghua) down syndrome face
Fuck, I teared up a little seeing their happy family at the end of episode 2.
>>280080759I bet you teared up when your daddy fuck you in the ass too, soiboy
>ESL phonetranny spamming shitposts off cooldown
every time
Oh shit didn't realise the anime was so soon, still going through book 4 at the moment.
>other chink adaptation with 3D get 100+ episode
>this 2D one has to be crammed so much
Would a 3D adaptation better for this?
>>280080792Post your hand, soiboy
>>280080753How many seasons would it be to finish just LotM? 15?
>>280080843They should make this their One Piece
>>280080278>>280080320>>280080692Well that's unfortunate. Hopefully the next episodes will be better
>>280080777Woah anon do you have something to tell to the whole class?
>>280078673>gachaslop design>gachaslop design (Taiwan)
>>280078673Massive downgrade
LOTM bros... it's over.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DOiXplcfuMg
What pisses me off isn't necessarily the cut content/rushed pacing, but the fact that important content was cut to make time to EXTEND irrelevant "flashy action aura farming" scenes, even going so far as to make up anime-only shit (worst offenders being Klein blowing up the roof with his haki when drinking the potion and Leonard now being a demigod who can teleport and manhandle a rampager with his bare hands). It shows that they didn't face natural timing/pacing restrictions, but rather it was all entirely self-inflicted because some dumbass exec thinks tiktok clips are the top priority. What a travesty.
>>280081188I'm watching the first episode and I'm so lost, someone spoodfeed me
>>280081188They skip old Neil screenstime,even tho his dead is what pushed Klein to locked in
>>280081201What don't you understand? The core narrative should be understandable (guy gets isekai'd and roped into shenanigans) but it's the finer details which get left out so it just feels like things are happening just to make plot happen.
>>280081231Explain the part about how even death may die.
>>280081278I don't even remember that part in the anime but there's a god that represents death and gods are killable.
>>280081078Guys, the new plan is in, episodes 1 and 2 are actually just teasers, the real episodes 1 and 2 are actually 3 and 4.
>>280081296>animeIt's from Lovecraft, I'm sure all the men of culture understood the reference.
>>280081319>Savants not in S TierIt's shit.
>>280081201Just read the novels first 100 chapters to get the context of the first episode.
>>280078540>artstyle reminds me of jigokuraku for some reasonKure-nai vibes here.
>the clown fight happens in chapter 75
>they crapped this in 3 episode
Jesus Christ no wonder everyone complaining about this
Whatโs with chinkshills and gookshills trying to force us like their faux anime shows? There are 3 different threads already
>>280081519because retard like you keep bumping it
>>280081336>roselle spurns it>S tierKek
>>280081591Roselle was still young and shortsighted when he wrote that diary page, later on in his life he realized Savants are the STRONGEST
>>280081591because it locked him out of a free sefirot
but we all know he would be easy pickings for CW
>>280081319And what are these marks supposed to be?
>>280081711Beyonder Pathway the only good shit that come from this slop story, think of it as Job/Class in MMORPG
>>280079350uh that was the ED thoughever?
>>280081737So what do they do then? Give you powers and shits?
>have you ever heard of this very good japanese/chinese novels?
>look inside
>class system
>>280074500It depends on the adaptation In general book adaptations can't be that good since it's boring to have 2 character talking for 40 minutes, monogatari manages to do it somewhat well and the new season was pretty good.
> Rebuild World or Space MercenaryPeople just don't give a fuck about isekai number 50000 so they never put effort into adapting them or giving them to a passionate director.
>>280081757They let you level up.
>>280081792but enough about solo leveling
>>280077489 (OP)>progressing cool tarot hero powers Is this a first in manga/wuxia?
>>280081836Both of them are bad
>>280081737>Calamity of Destruction>Supernova DominatorHoly cringe, did chinks actually think this was cool?
>>280081836yeah that one is bad too thank you for providing an example
Having to insert coins to turn on the gas lamps is pretty funny.
>>280081737>Gender Change To FemaleSo this is a tranny novel?
>>280081905they're evil-aligned
>>280081901>he mixed up progression fantasy and litrpgcommon mistake... for reddit tourists. go back
>>280081905The warrior pathway change female to male
>>280081924you said as if the other is any better
both are shit
>>280081901There's no video game stats/mechanics in this, dumb tranny.
>>280081905That's why it's called Lord of Tranny Men
>>280081941>trannythis one is literally tranny core lol
>>280081737
>>280081905You will never be a real beyonder.
>>280081960>killing trannies because they're evil is "tranny core"I guess you love trannies in contrary?
For the people that have read this, did you read the web novel or is there some fan translation of the novel? I see Yen Press is releasing the first volume of that in like a month, but not sure if they're substantially different.
>>280081976The main tranny doesn't die, and they are even the hero of their arc.
>>280081980I've been reading the web novel since it was one of the first search results, no idea if the published version is different.
>>280081980The webnovel, on Qidian.
Is there some light novel version I'm not aware of?
>>280081998All demonesses are villains in lotm and all the named ones die, dunno what you're talking about.
>>280082029Ignore Franca and Jenna in COI.
>>280082023Wiki just has it listed as "Physical Books", whether there's differences or not are beyond me:
https://lordofthemysteries.fandom.com/wiki/English_Edition
https://lordofthemysteries.fandom.com/wiki/Chinese_Edition
>>280081808>>280074500>Something like FLAG could never get made today because the directors and storyboarders would have a fucking stroke trying to justify the location of every shot's camera.Also I forgot to add, but you just have to watch good stuff. The mononoke movie had great direction. Sonny boy had fantastic color palette.
>>280082045Jenna is a true woman, and COI was shit and even the author admitted it.
>>280082034I also want JP dub but
>Baka-samaKEK
>>280082102It's gonna be Gusha-sama.
>>280081905Chinesebros... Xi Jinping might force to use this power to better satisfy his need.
>>280081201Maybe it will make sense after ep 2?
>>280080792Thanks to him we get constant bump and look like there are a lot to discuss, maybe anon is just tsundere to admit he fell for chink dong
>>280081844It's fantasy with England Victorian setting
>>280074819>the chinkshill thread got auto-sagedOh no non, I though we were welcome here chinese brothers... What happened?
>>280082235Thanks for the bump!
>>280081591Because his god slot was already filled while the three he wrote were "free"
>>280081319I like how every Godhood have control over a concept, Door pathway for example you can control every door and everything that have similar concept to "door"
Iโm a high-IQ and the first episode made sense. I got the essential points it was trying to transmit. Some things were nonsensical but those didnโt stop me from understanding the main narrative thrust. Low-IQs are going to struggle mightily however. Itโs not because of complexity, but because the essential information is very brief and not constantly repeated. Most tv shows are written for low-IQs, and this show is not. Iโm not saying itโs a GOOD show, and every indication right now is that itโs not, but anyone who says they didnโt understand what was going on was self-reporting on their IQ.
>>280081319>Demoness is S>Red Priest in AExplain yourself.
>>280081901>he mixed up generic trash with basedkino LOTMShitposting without knowing what you're talking about should be a bannable offense
>>280081901it's closer to cultivation than native isekai.
>>280082235There are another 5 shill threads in the board rn
Make sure you visit and give them as much bump as you did here, okay?
>Twilight Giant is the God of Combat
>but ackshually his authority is "Twilight" or whatever that's supposed to mean
Seriously, what does it mean? Twilight Giant is grouped with Evernight and Death, so is Twilight supposed to be synonymous with killing people or things ending? Then why is the entire pathway about strength unga bunga warrior shit and not just simple, silent death? How does all the fighting relate to Twilight at all?
>>280082588>Twilighthe can control gay vampire and gay werewolf
>>280082588All pathways have some mixed authorities from other pathways because that's how balance/stability is achieved. The warrior pathway has some minor light authority, while the sun has the major authority.
>>280079331I only watched that one gay looking show with the water dragon and shit because of the Angela OP
Hell I don't even remember anything about it at all other than the OP
Fookin love me some Angela
>>280082486Demoness is stronger.
>>280082744Hmmmmmm
No, incorrect.
>1400 chapters
I wonder how many episodes it'll take to fully adapt it...
I heard A Will Eternal had adapted around 300 chapters in 100 episodes...
>>280077489 (OP)Is this Manhwa really that good?
>>280082901>he thinks its getting a full adaptationAfter the reception to the first episodes this things getting dropped before we reach 10
>>280082908It's very good, I'd recommend it over the anime for sure.
>>280082908it's a webnovel originally
the manga and now anime adaptations are botched
>>280082913In the Chinese community? Because overseas opinions don't matter
I read the 10 chapters of the manhua (remake) and liked that a lot more, though apparently some comments said it was rushed as well, lol. Why was the original cancelled?
>>280082959>Why was the original cancelled?the story is weird, at the beginning of sterilization the author like it then suddenly the artist goes awol or something like that, the author then want it to get axed.
this IP is fucking cursed, the book get censored and shit adaptation.
>>280078575It's just a bad chink novel.
>>280079562While I don't agree with the others, I definitely think this Audrey is the best one.
That's some scandalous cleavage though.
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>>280078654Not gonna read all of that.
>All the old and balding guys were turned into pretty boys
>Leonard stalks Klein
>Audrey looks ugly so she doesn't threaten female viewers
They're not even hiding that this adaptation is mainly for fujos lol.
What's next are they gonna say Klein is good looking and not average like he is in the novel?
>>280083219Don't look up who's the director and his previous works
>>280082908The novel is good but way too overrated by people that don't read enough real books.
>>280080014Yeah, reading the novel I always found the power level rat-race aspect incongruous with the lovecraftian tone it was trying to establish
The only proper way to watch this is with the english dub since that's the aesthetic it's going for.
>>280083216Funny how LOTM had way more paragraphs, and you still read that.
>>280083248Hermes is French though
>>280081519one thread is genuine, the rest look like bait
>>280081980So each anon talking about this is chinese or a one in a million anons that knows mandarin well enough to read it? Explains a lot why it is even on this board
>>280083248that's my secret, I always go with the dub
>>280083423the web novel has an English translation
>>280082913Itโs not doing that bad anonโฆ
Most of the kvetching is from novel readers not anime onlies
who is the love interest? Daly?
>>280083856Kek, no anon. MC is forever a virgin (with good reason, in this world all women are just gateways to lovecraftian nightmares)
>>280083486what's the rating in china?
why is the concept of a show without a love interest so foreign to you people? do you only watch romanceslop?
>>280083964They're lonely self inserters.
>>280083964>Single men and women>No love interestsAre they asexual or something?
how come klein called leonard an oddball instead of a fag?
>>280083856mother tree of desire
>>280077620Savant women are so erotic
>>280078256>>280077620Why does fujo/femaleslop artstyle look so good?
>>280084035Klein literally has no time for love because he's constantly hounded by villains all the way until the end.
>>280079214>>280079360>>280079398>>280079562>>280079620>>280079669The Taiwanese design were never even in consideration. Most characters strictly follow the "official designs" they had for years now, except for Old Neil and Leonard who received new designs for some reason.
Though ironically Leonard, you you complain so much about, has a redesign that is actually closer to the Taiwanese version than the official version.
>>280084112he selfcest gives birth as part of his sequence 1 ritual
>>280080678Maybe don't use in-motion frames that you see for miliseconds and would usually never be able to remember.
I just noticed that they use the design of Audrey from before it got "censored". Even the new manhua has the "censored" version, but the donghua somehow got away with exposing the middle of her chest.
>>280084348She looks improper and immodest. That is no way for a young lady to dress. Scandalous.
>>280084309Holy freakin insect, batman. Mogged by taiwan Audrey.
>>280084368She was in her own room when she got pulled into this space, so it's not bad. She even has the fog blocking everyone else's view.
>>280079214I don't know how you can think this looks good. What the fuck are all these belts and straps? This doesn't look like a person getting dressed up in the world of LotM. It looks like someone who just got vomited out of a JRPG character creator.
>>280084411>belts and strapsJaps are addicted to these for some reason
>>280084404Nope. Taiwan Audrey looks at best like a rich merchant's daughter maybe, not like a girl of a Count's noble family, and her hair looks like a birds nest or something. Terrible unfitting design. It's the 3rd-worst design of her after the Thai design (2nd-worst) and the old manhua design (worst).
>>280084554Didnt you get btfo earlier?
>>280083423I can read chinklish and have read too may chinknovel, which may be not a good thing
My honest opinion about LOTM is that it is mid at best
The writing is dry, the general plot it a total nonsense bored, characterization is barely there, and the lack of romance is a minus point (this is my person reference thought) but the guy couldnt write any decent romance in his other works anyway
The only thing worth mentioned is the detailed world building and power system, which obviously makes this another battle shounen with the veil of mystery (at least in the first volume)
He successfully, and i may say a genius stroke, painted the chinese cultivation lv system with a layer of western mysticism and lovecraftian lore, and created sth rather unique. So if he actually wrote cultivation like sb said about the sequel of the western continent, it would suck donkey balls
It already suck donkey balls with the actual sequel since there arent much to explore with the power system anymore, and he is forced to write more about human drama and characters this time lololool
>>280077489 (OP)Overrated series
>>280084683Recommend me a good chink story
>>280084667You are running from reality now, anon. I know you wish you had proven everyone else wrong and yourself right, but deluding yourself into thinking that you did is a big no-no. You need to care more about your mental health!
>>280084728Reverend Insanity
Its too good CCP has to censor it
Animeonly here. At what point did Dunn or the psychic chick put the MC in a dream world? I assume it was around when Dunn said he should pass a verification but then when he woke up in the real world Leonard wasn't around so he could've already been in a dream the moment he woke up
Melissa not hearing the gun was odd too as the MC mentioned but I guess that will be explained later.
>>280084755I already read it anon, now I can't stomach sloppa cultivation novels anymore
>>280084728I assume you asked genuinely
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Because, of course, the stuffs that usually got translated are โgatewayโ level at best, much like most โanime recommendation listโ you saw online
>>280084802Dunn can cast sleep from range, he doesn't need eye contact or whatever. So he just stood outside his door and cast it from the very beginning.
>>280084825Oh and there are these very interesting hardcore smut chinese novels too, i actually dont know if translated where should i dump them online
>>280084802It happened when Klein was still mentally in the grey fog space with "Justice" and "Hanged Man", when Klein suddenly started feeling nauseous. He already heard a knocking sound around that time.
It's notable that Dunn didn't notice anything whatsoever related to the grey fog space.
>>280084683>admitting he couldn't follow the plotbrainlet
>muh romancetastelet
>>280084871>>280084880Oh that's something I wasn't expecting, I was assuming Dunn needs to have at least seen MC at some point, and that he could still be in a "dream" while also being in the pocket dimension thing
>>280084683You cannot tell me that the writing in LOTM is dry if you've read so much chink slop, sure compared with actual literature it's lacking but in the web novel medium it's above average.
The plot, at least in the first book, is also amazing; The first volume leading to the reveal of 0-08's machinations, the hunting of Ince Zangwill, The start of the world war and the Black Emperor's ascension; The city of silver seeing the sun; and I could name more.
The only valid criticism is the weak characterization, and I guess no romance if you're into that thing (Which I thought he didn't do bad in Throne of Magical Arcana).
>>280084916No, as long as he's aware of someone's presence and they're in range, he can sleep them. That's the power of his pathway, and Leonard in the novel was supposed to just sleep the kidnappers from outside their door and effortlessly solve the crime, but the anime gave him an aura farming fist fight instead.
>>280084943The book portray him as this lazy genius archetype that hide his power level
>>280084943>but the anime gave him an aura farming fist fight insteadOnly as far as initially knocking the two of them out is concerned. Even if he "sleeped" them, it would still be a "reasonable development" for them to wake up "for some reason" and the fight would have happened regardless, if that falling feather was any indication. Now you might say that the falling feather didn't appear in the novel version at that point yet, but it does not really make any difference if it happens at this point or later. Might as well use it as an opportunity to hook in some more people in the debut episode
>>280084931>actual literatureWhat does this mean exactly? Could you give examples of literature where characterization, plot and setting are all handled in an incredibly profound manner? Genuinely curious to dip my toes into Western stuff.
>>280085020It doesn't make sense because they made Leonard several times stronger than he's supposed to be and now every future canon fight with him is going to either be nonsensical when he doesn't teleport anymore or everyone is going to get powercreep and have demigod level powers to match.
>>280084915The plot is bareboned and simple as fuck, you think it is actually deep or complex or some shit? Just switch beyonder to immortal and poof you got a bunch of old farts scratching for whatever power they can scratch like any cultivation story
As I said the interesting part here is how they do it aka the power system,
>>280084931I will give him the first volume as it is the on with the most sense of dread
After that its another grinding quest to level up from one map to another
And again, the interesting part is how he does it aka the power lv system
Everything you just said in spoiler is about the power system too.
Just watched ep 1 and I have no idea what is happening
>>280085027Actual literature as in not web novels, but published books. And I was only talking about writing style, which is often very simplistic in web novels compared to professional authors. But truth be told it may also be a limitation of it being a translated work, rather than reading from the original language.
>>280085072you're the one who called the plot "nonsense", now you're saying it's the total opposite and "barebones", a surefire sign of a dishonest seether
>>280085074It is the same in the raw, a decent amount of editing could fix it actually.
>>280085074Yes I was expecting actual books.
As for writing style, what does it mean for it to be good? Description of what's happening in a way that is both efficient in length and ensures the readers are imagining things as accurately as possible? The use of the right words to evoke the right emotions?
>>280085094Ok fagget
I said bored nonsense:
Bore= same shit as old fart cultivators fighting for power
Nonsense= giving them grandiose names with lovecraftian and religious vibe, hoping people wont notice
>>280085179so your defense is that you're ESL and using words you don't understand? that's not much better
>>280085146Read the malazan series
>>280085072>Everything you just said in spoiler is about the power system too.It's precisely the opposite, the satisfying parts of those events have nothing to do with the system of power.
Klein avenging the fallen due to the Lanevus plot, driving bullets into Zangwill's body, and having a last dance with Daly as she is dying in the form of Dunn.
Klein refusing the trend of the times, aiming to go against an orchastred plot that caused suffering for the populace. "Can you accept such an outcome".
After countles generations of being stuck in a wasteland with no light, with malformed mutations and a land roaming with monsters, the city of silvers seeing sunlight for the first time, regaining hope.
Those are the moments I envisioned when I wrote that the plot was good, nothing to do with the pathways powers.
>>280085146>As for writing style, what does it mean for it to be good?I'm sure google could give you a better answer than I can write in a short paragraph of what good writing is. But what you wrote are some aspects of good writing yes.
LotM is a masterpiece. The only contrarians are schizos who come in here to shit up the thread because they hate china for whatever /pol/ reason.
I was expecting a good looking mess and that's what I got
>>280082908The novel has interesting world building and a nice story. I think it's overhyped by the web novels community though
>>280085203I'll remember that, thanks anon.
>>280085271I see. I guess it is a rather complicated question to ask.
Perhaps we should put together two summaries of a few hundred word greentext of the first and second episode with stuff people who are new to the series should know so they can be a bit less confused.
I'd do it but it's been like 5 years since I read LotM and I'm only re-remembering how things go from the anime now, did one for a friend as best I could but I forgot to include a bunch of stuff like the tarot reading. Anyone who's up to date on the lore wanna try one with very mild spoilers as necessary?
>>280085313>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OjNpRbNdR7E
>>280085352Nta but just think of it as this
Writing is simply another form of delivering information from one (the writer) to another (the reader)
Most webnovel writing only do the bare minimum of delivering information of who how and why
Aka X do Y because of Z
Which is very dry
Good writing usually added more fluffs to it to give you more information, the vibe, the atmosphere, the emotion etc via many techniques, to archive sth rather than just โwho how whyโ . It could be the author message, an ideology, or simply a beautiful image
A tell tale sign is the lacking of descriptions for the characters appearance, personality, gesture
Which is why webnovel writers have to rely heavily on tropes, jade-like beauty, character archetypes so they dont have to describe most of them
>>280085453It's mostly coherent for animeonlys, just missing a lot of content that adds substance to what's shown which affects the payoff later. The only truly nonsensical things I can think of for animeonlys (that isn't purely a mystery at that point that's supposed to be explained later) is:
>tarot members talk to each other off-screen and decide to have a regular meeting at the end of itThey make a trade with each other (girl buys a potion formula from the guy, she sends money to an address while he gives her the knowledge vocally), they decide this is a convenient gathering and want more out of it.
>klein somehow knowing about the notebook at the end of episode 2 before the creditsThey were supposed to mention that dreams are a warning from one's spirituality and seers are particularly sensitive to this. Because the notebook is related to the seer pathway, Klein's subconscious sensed it when he was at the kidnapper's place, and his dream told him about it when he went to sleep.
Everything else should've made sense IMO, albeit rushed as fuck.
>>280085048Leonard doesn't teleport though. People jump to ridiculous conclusions because they just want to whine and cry for some reason and refuse to think for themselves...
If you look at the scene in slow-motion, you'll actually see that there is a time-lag between him "disappearing" and "reappearing", so it's at most invisibility or some sort of illusion (Seq 9/8 Beyonder item?), maybe even some advanced form of utilizing his ability of making others fall asleep to conserve spirituality, such as "making everyone around him fall asleep for 0.5 seconds" or such, that makes it look like he was invisible to his surroundings.
Also note that all your worries are based on assumptions based on assumptions based on assumptions and as we can see a part of what you used as the inital premise (Leonard teleporting) wasn't even correct to begin with.
As for physical abilities. The novel never really said how much enhancement in "muscle power" the physical enhancements for each individual pathway gave. You just made up something in your mind years ago when you read the novel and now see that what is used for the donghua is a higher scale than you imagined in your mind and immediately panicked. But if you think about it, this only widens the gap between "lowest enhancements" and "no enhancement". In the novel, from sequence 9 to 6 it often doesn't feel like the people in question go beyond fights at individual or group scale. If in the donghua all of them "scale up" a bit, it won't make much of a difference. Like, perhaps a full-powered attack by a Dawn Paladin can demolish a mansion instead of just an average stone building? Wow, big difference. You see what I am getting at? They are ultimately still only "enhanced humans". Who cares if they can punch through 3 meters of concrete instead of 2.5 meters?
Now Sequence 5 is a bit trickier but are overall still mortals. But nothing changes about Sequence 4 being THE cutoff-point.
>>280085476Way to prove my point, complete with ancient propaganda music bookmarked to post as part of your seething. Or will you tell me you're simply a historian rather than a /pol/brain?
>>280085535>It's mostly coherent for animeonlysI thought that myself, but that's because I have context. It's trickier than we might realise for people coming into this blind.
>>280085600That just sounds like regular retardation.
>>280077489 (OP)Does it get better? The first episode is really bad from a writing perspective. These characters don't feel human (or at the very least rational).
So basically the world is notVictorian England, but with cultivation autism and eldritch abominations?
Is the novel better, feels like the first two episode rushed as fuck?
>>280085619That's easy for us to say, but people are going to be confused with how it just advanced at a speed of practically a chapter per minute so there's always going to be guys like
>>280085073Remember, as soon as somebody with no context gets stuck on one tiny thing that's going to trip them up more and more until there's 20 things they're stuck on. Wouldn't be too bad if this was deep into a season and people had something to build off of, but they're getting chucked straight into the deep end without so much as an OP.
>>280085578For non-combat oriented pathways, they're no different form an ordinary person strength-wise. If Leonard was from the warrior, sailor or hunter pathway I could buy it, but he's a midnight poet... It doesn't make sense he has that much strength.
>>280085535>>280085600No, you can't really win on that matter regardless of what you do.
Leave it vague for "show don't tell"?
>AIYEEEE THIS IS SO CONFUSING! THEY ONLY CARE FOR NOVEL READERS, NOT FOR US DONGHUA-ONLYS! Explain it in detail as in the novel?
>AIYEEEE THEY WASTED SO MUCH TIME ON THIS ONLY TO RUSH IT EVEN MORE! DO THEY THINK WE ARE IDIOTS?! DON'T INSULT OUR INTELLIGENCE! USE "SHOW DON'T TELL"! WE AREN'T RETARDS, WE CAN HANDLE IT!
>>280085578>this isn't teleportationIf he was running he wouldn't be standing in a neutral pose after every reappearance.
Even if you want to cope over the visuals, a midnight poet canonically has nothing like this ability at all. They don't have hyper speed, illusion creation, or invisibility.
>>280077489 (OP)>lovecraft inspired>opens box>mmo minmaxing classes and rog systemsChinese literally can't into western themes. If you tried to explain the demiurge to them they would somehow find a way to wrap him into a one dimensional gacha villain.
>>280085661Thatโs chink writing for you, shills here will overhype their shit but the fact of the matter is that even mediocre isekai series character writing wise mog chinkshit and gookslop.
You should only watch this for power level and cultivating autism like solo leveling. Characters are flat and will stay flat.
>>280085669>So basically the world is notVictorian England, but with cultivation autism and eldritch abominations?More or less.
>Is the novel betterIt's fantastic imo, tied for first place as my fave thing I've ever read.
>feels like the first two episode rushed as fuck?Unfortunately they are, the director is apparently worried about zoomers and aura farmers on tiktok getting bored if they don't have a fight or two in the first three episodes, so it seems he made the decision to cram the first 45 chapters into two episodes, add in an anime only fight, and then only slow the fuck down and start filling in the 80% or so of cut lore and stuff starting from episode 4. You might have to thank Solo Leveling for this mindset.
>>280077620She's so breedable
God I wanna cum inside her mouth so bad
>>280085673No he just sounds like a regular retard who can't comprehend dream sequences and there's no way to cure that besides having a character literally say "okay I will now pull you into a dream, prepare yourself".
>>280085250Those points had an opposite effect on me and I just felt like they were instances of the author getting high off his own farts.
>>280085685Midnight poets DO have a strength enhancement though. And it's not like he punched through concrete or anything. I don't really see the problem here. Can you give a CONCRETE EXAMPLE of what you worry about?
>>280085661The adaptation is rushing the plot ridiculously hard so it's all a mess.
>>280085714Dishonest anti-shill acting like the novel is like this.
>>280085714Oh well good to know. I heard it had some interesting lovecraft based setting but the whole thing felt like someone read Lovecraft's wikipedia page and had never been to New England, Rhode Island, etc and then filled it with sociopathic , mechanical and frankly soulless individuals that behave erratically (in an insectoid manner, not in a "sensitive academic who read the Necronomicon" fashion). Like if someone made a Narnia anime but fundamentally cannot understand god or Christianity.
>>280085760>And it's not like he punched through concrete or anything.He did far worse, he bent steel with one hand. And did you miss the fact that he solo'd the rampager barehanded with superman punches? It's a non-canon fanfic scene to begin with so I don't know why you're defending the blatant breaking of canon.
>>280085741What context would he have to either figure out or digest after the fact, that it was a dream sequence, before getting thrown into the next plot point?
>Chink whose real name I forget gets suddenly transmigrated>Wakes up in a two room hovel set in what's basically Bloodborne>wtf is happening, why do I have a hole in my head, why have I apparently left a suicide note?>Okay, I have general knowledge of who this Klein guy was, but not whatever the fuck has been happening in the last few days>I do have this weird notebook though, detailing something called... the luck ritual?>Alright, nothing to lose maybe this will send me back home>Buy some bread to cast the luck ritual with>Sends him to a mysterious palace surrounded by grey fog>People from around the world who happen to be interacting with certain object types get mystically branded and brought to the palace>They can't see each other, have to make guesses based on voice and what they're saying>Wait, door's being knocked on>Cops arresting me, flee>Reality warping help>It was all a dream>Turns out the cop has beyonder (magical powers granted by a potion) powers, his powers specifically puts people to sleep and fucks with their dreams>He did it to basically see what Klein would do and shit, no matter what he tried or did there was no escape or anything as it's just a dream>Cop invites Klein to the secret society of the Nighthawks because he's survived a beyonder incident and they only invite people who've done soThat's the episode 1 summary I wrote for my friend to try and help him digest it better, feel free to insult me for missing or misremembering things or whatever.
>>280084817A Regressor's Tale of Cultivation is good.
>>280085760No, they do not
They get:
Expertise in combat, marksmanship, climbing, and spiritual perception.
That's not any kind of physical strength enhancement, he gets the equivalent of being an experienced fighter, with hand to hand combat techniques.
And that's from the author's official weixin post, in where he explains all the abilities of the sleepless pathway.
>>280085697Like I said, it could be a visual representation of skill-ful use of short-duration sleep-inducement or low-level beyonder items or Uncle Pallez helping out or anything really. You instead just dive straight into the worst-case scenario that this is some "retarded oversight that no one in production ever at any moment even considered and will 100% become a plothole".
It almost sounds like you deliberately WANT it to be that way and get angry that anyone would even suggest otherwise.
>>280085813You mean besides the part where Klein literally woke up from the trippy experience and exclaimed "huh it was just a dream"? Then waking up a second time from another trippy experience a few minutes later? Both coinciding with the appearance of Dunn? Any normal person should understand at that point that he's a guy who can control sleep and dreams even if it's not explicitly stated.
>>280085856None of your explanations make any sense and frankly I'm already getting tired of arguing with a blatant shill. It seems that in Leonard's next fight when he fails to teleport again you'll make up some insane mental gymnastics cope to explain that away too.
Whilst we are only on episode 2, I think I've seen enough.
It seems strangely over animated. Lots of liquid 3D animation but the people end up stiff by comparison. The use of 3D is fine, and the people researching the Victorian elements did their homework. There was a shot of a street that looked almost exactly like a slice of home in London. So good work there. Audio direction once again proves to be the Chinese's weakness, although decent composition is involved. I did try and read LotM a while ago and I think it's much better animated than in novel form.
I will however wait for an English dub. I can't stand Chinese. 6/10 I hope they fine-tune the direction. I thought the pacing itself was fine. All seems coherent to me, although I think some more exposition with the combat Beyonder would have been nice.
>>280085871Again, you're speaking from a point of knowing what's happening. An animeonly just go thrown through a bunch of alleys with the floors and walls all exploding and doesn't know what the fuck to trust. The MC just questioned if it was a dream sure, but at this point basically nothing is known about Beyonder powers and they're barely even hinted at other than the conversation that took place in the grey fog. Should the watcher really trust that it was a dream just because the MC thinks it might have been one? So many trippy things just happened in sequence that what should be trusted as the truth and what shouldn't is in doubt, and picking the wrong conclusion once leads to many more conclusions being incorrect and getting tangled.
>>280085974Did your friend struggle to understand this movie too?
>>280085785The setting is basically just a coat of paint over the usual cultivation formula. They might disguise it with things like digesting potions or requiring elaborate rituals, but the endgame is almost always the same: to cultivate, ascend to a higher level of existence, and eventually achieve godhood.
Even in chink medieval fantasy settings, it follows this same blueprint. Take Wizard World, Age of Adepts, or Warlock of the Magus World for example. In Age of Adepts, the entire point of living is to cultivate. For adepts and mages, knowledge itself is only valuable as a means to gain more power and authority.
Then thereโs the broader pattern as they invade other realms, siphon resources, and feed them back to their home plane. The adepts own world literally grows stronger by plundering others; the more worlds they rob, the closer their own plane comes to evolving into a higher existence.
So everything they do whether itโs individual cultivation or grand conquests ultimately serves the same purpose: ascend higher, become more powerful, and push their world further up the cosmic hierarchy.
In general their ideas or rather their coat of paint is indeed shiny and fun at first but they all follow the same formula, and of course they canโt into writing characters which is their biggest flaw.
>>280077489 (OP)>Ughmmm guys actually you need to read my essay here to understand the โdepthโ of episode one Fucking lol, normies dont give a shit even if you shove that essay to their face, they simply think what is this jumble mess (may look pretty though) and drop it
It is so over, sabotaged by the hand of their own people
Chinks love to cry about muh foreign oppression and play victim, but its their own people who done the most damage
>>280085994Okay, at what point would you say it's a problem of the way the episode has been directed and structured, vs the retardation of the general populace? Like, what % of people would have to say the first two episodes feel rushed and confusing before you admitted there's a problem that can't just be brushed away by calling everyone else retarded?
>>280086080It's definitely rushed, but as I said earlier it's still mostly coherent.
Clown
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Who else want to cope with me that they are holding back for the final moment.
Which deities should we pray to give us satisfying last episode?
>>280086118I can't cope anymore after seeing that they're prioritizing anime-only tiktok aura farming moments over important dialogue despite already needing to cram as much as they can into 12 episodes. It reeks of profit-obsessed boomer exec meddling.
>>280085796Right, some gun made mostly out of wood and at best a low-quality metal pipe that is also hollow that a random kidnapper was able to afford to get is harder to bend than breaking through a thick concrete wall, of course.
>>280085830>Nocturnality: The deeper into the night, the more powerful a Sleepless will become. Their physical strength, intuition, and mental capabilities are all the aspects that get strengthened.>They can see through the darkness even without any lights.>They are able to sense dangers that are hidden in the dark.>They only need to sleep for around 3-4 hours a day.It was already evening at the very least, since you could see the street lamps being turned on and you could even see the red moon at one point, which is hidden behind the rain clouds most of the time.
>>280085902They just "don't make sense"? Yet you couldn't even refute one. You didn't even read my post. I said that he was, infact, not teleporting at all, it's (You) who insists to the bitter end that he did. So you are free to cry that your imagined "teleportation" won't appear later on, while I'll remain unfazed since I was right.
>>280086103You saying the episode is coherent from your point of view, does not make it coherent from everybody's point of view.
Again, what percentage of people would have to be confused before you admitted that it was the fault of the common point connecting all of them, namely the episode itself?
>>280086184Guns are made to withstand fucking gunpowder exploding inside them and channeling the force to shoot the bullet. And Leonard can bend that with one hand, which is superhuman strength that is not given to him at his sequence. You're incredibly disingenuous or retarded, or both.
There are 2 explanation on how Leonard "teleport"
>Klein still in dazed state
>the old man help Leonard
>>280086209Not him, modern guns are made with standards yeah sure, but what's being discussed here is a shitty gun from 200 years ago that was probably bootleg forged from a bit of rusty plumbing pipe.
>>280086184As I said, it's tiresome arguing with a blatant shill. I've already disproven your earlier claims and now you're moving goalposts with "b-b-but maybe it was a sealed artifact or Pallez did it". Tell you what, if you agree to admit you're wrong after I btfo your new 3 examples then I'll humor you, otherwise I'm 100% sure you'll keep moving goalposts forever like the shill you are.
>>280079479Cap was an Evernight believer. I.e. the usual female-worshipping male feminist incel who puts women on a pedestal.
>>280086209What part of "Their physical strength, intuition, and mental capabilities are all the aspects that get strengthened" do you not understand?
>B-but in my imagination I was sure the enhancement wouldn't be "able to bend hollow metal-pipes"-strong! Doesn't matter, the novel never gave any concrete guideposts for how extensive the strengthening is, and your imagination and headcanon aren't actual canon.
>>280086243A normal human can't even instantly bend a plumbing pipe with one hand, let alone a piece of metal designed to withstand gunpowder explosions. It's objectively superhuman and midnight poets canonically do not gain strength superhuman enhancements.
>>280077489 (OP)Watched it, it's meh.
>>280079548It's been a while, but I'm pretty sure the MC doesn't know any magic in our world. He's just trying out a meme ritual he found online for shits and giggles.
The luck ritual he uses is a meme to up your luck for gacha pulls. Basically a placebo irl
>>280086267Old plumbing pipes were made of lead.
You can bend a lead pipe with one hand.
>>280086261The fight was during the day so your new cope is also wrong. Just like your next one will be too, because all you're doing is pulling copes out your ass as each one gets refuted.
>>280080121Funny thing, here r some MIT students
>>280086277Hold on they didn't explain Klein ritual in the adaptation?
>>280086288Bend to a 90 degree angle in 0.2 seconds like Leonard can bend steel in the anime? Doubtful.
>>280086267That's why Leonard was punching holes through doors in the novel
>>280086302Idk. Haven't watched yet. I'm saving up episodes to binge
>>280086291Damn, images ain't workin
>>280086307>cheap poorfag wood is the same as steelAt this point I'm confident that nothing you say is worth responding to. Last (You).
>>280086304Maybe, but we're not discussing some regular basic bitch human, we're discussing a beyonder who does get an unspecified amount of physical upgrades for strength and speed, and has at least worked out and trained.
>>280086244You didn't disprove anything. Your entire argument is "you don't make sense!" and "Leonard specifically uses teleportation because... otherwise I can't cry about it being a plothole later, OK?"
Even if we supposed it's a blatant retcon of the Sleepless pathway's abilities, you just straight up jump to (delayed) teleportation (we already know it's not a blink because Leonard disappears for a short while) instead of even considering something more familiar with the lore like "petal substitution" or such.
>>280086060This has always bothered me about them. They literally cannot understand western themes and instead default to trying to wrap them into the same shit they already write about all the time. It means I can't expect to see say a journey like Frodo and Sam's, where combat is minimal, they don't become much stronger, and it's still filled with emotion and hope in the face of despair, simply because they literally cannot write it. This is supposed to be a mystery show with eldritch shit in it and instead is no different than the rest of their shit. Completely disappointing. Tezuka was writing about the tower of babel being a ziggurat in the fucking 60s, Chinese have literally no arguments to not be able to write better shit.
>>280086342For the last time, a mere sequence 8 would not have that sort of strength, let alone for a pathway that isn't about melee strength, this is factual canon.
>>280086290>The fight was during the dayStreet lamps are on during the day? If you were the mayor of Tingen, people would already be lynching you for wasting money.
>>280086343But I did disprove your claim and even you know it, because you responded by moving goalposts with 3 new copes instead of defending your original claim against my argument. And seeing as how you don't have enough confidence to agree to admit you're wrong if your new copes are disproved, you also know you're coping and don't truly believe your copes. I accept your concession.
Sure is a lot if coping itt.
>>280086376And now you're coping so hard you're writing fanfiction harder than the production team.
>>280086365I'm starting to agree with the other guy that you've established head canon and now you're refusing to alter it under any circumstances.
The pipe wasn't modern day steel, their guns aren't built to our modern standards, becoming a beyonder does upgrade you at least a little bit and physical training is always an option on the table. You're basically trying to claim that this is indestructible steel and he's not even the tiniest bit stronger than any basic bitch mortal walking the street who's barely trained a day in their lives. It's ridiculous.
>>280086438It is straight up stated in the novel that low sequences are not much better than regular humans. They're not supposed to be solo leveling aura farming gods at that point. Leonard dodging bullets and teleporting is just going to make the final fight look retarded when he fails to display any of that physical prowess.
>>280086400No, you did not disprove my claim that it could be all sorts of things other than teleportation. Expressing your ridicule for the clever use of his sleep-inducement ability or for the concept of low-level beyonder items or uncle Pallez helping out don't count as "disproving them" even if you'd like it to be.
And since I forgot to address it earlier, Leonard being in a "neutral stance" when dispelling whatever he does to become visible again is not an indicator for teleportation, but rather just him trying very hard to follow the acting method of being an "elegant poet".
>>280086484Not much =/= nothing.
You can train and lift weights or whatever on top of that and multiply the effect.
End of story.
>>280086336>Midnight poets canonically do not gain strength superhuman enhancements.Yup, sure normal humans go around punching straight through doors
>>280086510I don't care about whatever nonsensical non-canon copes you have about what the non-canon scene "could be", it's not canon and that's a fact. Your "quick sleep" cope doesn't even make any logical sense, time and momentum still exist even if he was casting mini sleeps so it wouldn't look like he was teleporting by using that, that would be a time stop effect instead. You clearly have double digit IQ on top of a poor understanding of the novel and canon. Not going to bother after this because all you've done is repeatedly prove me right and coped exactly how I said you would.
>>280086524How do you weight train to the point of having superhuman reflexes to dodge bullets? Can't wait to see your explanation for how this trait magically disappears in the final fight.
>>280086402Trust the plan
>T.. they will fix it in ep 3>Tโฆ they will fix it in ep 10 >they will fix it in the final!>they will fix it in the promised sol eps!>arghhhhh they will fix it in s10 baka-sama save meeeee
>>280086599I've no intentions of discussing the semantics of an anime only fight and that wasn't even what was being discussed. What was being talked about was the idea of somebody who, while not aura farming god levels of strong, is at least comparable or surpassing peak mortals by a little bit, and is capable of bending a pipe made of some unknown metallic looking substance that's made to early Victorian standards.
Btw as mentioned earlier in the thread Midnight Poets do get combat experience as part of the deal to explain his reflexes, but I'm sure you'll claim that it's a low enough amount to be irrelevant as your argument doesn't exist if you let inconvenient things like that get in the way of it.
>>280084728The Path Toward Heaven
>>280086717Sequence 8 proficiency in combat does not mean superhuman feats. At best he would be on par with the best normal human athletes/martial artists, none of which can surpass bullets. How many times do you have to be told that low sequences canonically aren't superhuman?
>>280086417You are 100% convinced that they created an inconsistency that will be apparent at the end, yet are also entirely convinced that they made no mistake with indicating the time of day here with lamps, huh? So the production team is competent or incompetent whenever it's convenient.
Well, whatever. We don't really know whether it being dark or the actual time of day (planet's rotation) is what matters. In summer it's sometimes still somewhat bright even at 22:00. If the "deepest night" is 24:00/00:00 then there you have your strengthening.
Strengthening starts at 18:00 and ends at 06:00 or something. How powerful are sleepless/midnight-poets at 00:00? Who knows, we'll have to see.
Maybe the scale is even more generous wherein they only lose their strengthening completely at 12:00 or such.
>>280086816Why would a supernatrually buffed human being ever be weaker than a regular human being? Please explain that.
>At best he would be on par with the best normal human athletes/martial artistsDo you have a single fact to back that up? You can claim that you think that all you want, but what do you have to concretely substantiate that?
>>280077489 (OP)There's no way anime onlies will be able to understand ANYTHING. Even worse since this is all about mystery they might think they are not supposed to know any one thing. So honestly this is a trainwreck.
But as someone who knows what's going on I gotta say it is fucking awesome, I loved it.
The 1st episode must've been really confusing for new viewers. In the novel, everything was clearly expressed
>>280086870Even in your pic you can see the reflection of the lit sky from the rainwater on the ground. And in every subsequent scene, including the rampager flying into the sky with the sun shining, shows that it's day time. Hence the lamps logically turned on because they're programmed to light up when it starts getting dim, not because it's night.
>>280086900Where did I say Leonard should've been weaker than regular human beings? I'm saying he shouldn't be dodging bullets, and I'm pretty sure this literal example using guns is used in the novel to describe low sequences not being almighty.
>>280086900He blatantly ignores the strengthening from "Nocturnality" that even Seq 9 Sleepless possess and is strengthened by higher sequences because the novel never explained them in detail. It seems like he wants the result of this discussion to be the "undeniable consensus" that Leonard teleported and showed strength he should have. For some reason even deviating from that narrative even a little will hurt him badly.
It's almost as if he got some checklist he has to fulfill and if anything deviates from it even slightly, he'll lose something. I don't know if it's just some vain pride or some sort of anti-shill payment of whatever.
If he just wanted to talk down the production of the LotM donghua he could do it in many much easier and much harder-to-deny ways, but he strangely insists on wanting it to happen in this one specific way. Weird.
not enough lampooning, Dunn doesn't seem forgetful, and it's crazy that Benson gives Klein his suit and he has been saving up for it, kleins first suit cost 8 pounds, what did Benson do to save that much? Also Klein is already a beyonder but hasn't dropped out of university yet
>>280087052Klein immediately becoming beyonder, Benson suddenly have enough money to buy a new house.
>>280087052Not enough time to show character traits, every precious second saved from cutting content needs to be used for anime-only aura farming scenes.
>>280087052>no screen time for Old Neilthis one is the biggest offender
>>280086993>Where did I say Leonard should've been weaker than regular human beings?Here:
>>280086816>At best he would be on par with the best normal human athletes/martial artistsA magically enhanced human of a pathway that does get some combat enhancements and has trained on top of that should never be weaker in terms of physically related stats than any example of a mortal human being, for example Arnold Schwarzenegger or Bruce Lee. This is even before considering his sequence being strengthened by it being night time.
Just watched both episodes. These are great. They make some things a lot more flashy than they should be, but I can't say I'm not entertained.
>>280086971The question is whether the steampunk-tech is capable of "programming" like that. Well, it could also just be centrally controlled by someone who has to subjectively make the judgement whether to turn all lights on or off.
But regardless, looking at the lamps was unnecessary because I did not keep in mind that the story of the first arc takes place in starts from June 28th, so it's the middle of summer, where "daylight" can often still be seen as late as 22:00, two hours before midnight.
So that leaves two questions: At what time DOES it take place? And how does "Nocturnality", or rather it's strenghtening effect specifically, work exactly? I don't think the novel ever really explained it, so everything about it is speculation at this point. But it at the very least does give a possible explanation for Leonard physical power.
On the other side, regardless of what that red-aura thing was, I hope we'll get an explanation about what it is at some point. Maybe the donghua will go deeper into the whole "mutual secrets" aspect between Klein and Leonard. I don't even remember what exactly Klein "found out" about Leonard, IIRC it was just some vague suspicion, but Leonard seemed like he over-dramatized it in the novel or thought that Klein found out more than he actually did at this point.
>>280087253>on par with = weakerUtter retard. Don't talk to me again.
>>280087335>The question is whether the steampunk-tech is capable of "programming" like that.Savants/church of machinery and Roselle are a thing. You very obviously lack incredibly basic knowledge about the novel, to the point where I wonder if you're some jeet shill. Either way you're not worth talking to if you can't grasp even this, didn't read the rest.
>>280085027>Genuinely curious to dip my toes into Western stuff./lit/ has list for beginners. Just start with the classics. It's hard for fictional works made after 2000 to even touch the peaks of the classics.
>>280087346Melissa is much cuter. It's not enough.
>>280087343Saying that somebody is on par with a normal athlete or martial artist does mean you think they're weaker than apex examples, yes. There's a difference between somebody who is the fastest in his county because he can run 100 meters in 11 seconds, and Usain Bolt.
>>280085994>ripping of Satoshi Kon
Still trolling 24 hours later? Don't you people sleep? To what purpose? You don't get any points or anything here.
Why do we have 3 threads of this chinkslop when it isnโt anime? Do the nips have any involvement in this
>>280087412>on par with a normal athlete or martial artistI said "the best normal human athletes/martial artists". You can't read, you can't argue, you can't shill, you're a failure at everything except wasting time.
>>280087507it's getting a jp dub soon(tm)
Episode 3 next Saturday, so I guess it'll go for a regular one episode per week release going forward.
If you guys wondering why people focusing on Leonard teleport ability read chapter 208, every shit hit the fan can get "solved" by Leonard "teleport"
>>280087705Teleport is a highly coveted ability that appears at sequence 5 at minimum so of course there's tons of low level conflicts that would be dumpstered if teleport was factored in. Whoever's directing this doesn't seem to respect the source.
>>280087705It is not teleport
>>280087705pallez is stealing distance, but oh no, now he is too tired and needs to sleep during the fight with megose / true creators descent
>>280087742Sure, it's just a mysterious non-canon ability that coincidentally achieves the exact same effect as teleport and will never be explained because it's non-canon. How does that make it any less bad?
>>280087757It's obvious that Palez Zoroast is a retcon.
>>280087757It has a crimson effect which is what they color coded the sleepless pathway as so this cope doesn't work either.
>darkness pathway
>not black colored
Anon...
>>280087762>>280087768Nobody cares about your opinion
It is fun to watch, people loves it
>>280087802The evernight goddess is the lady of crimson. Except this gets retconned in-universe anyway so it was indeed a short sighted decision to make their powers crimson
>>280087820>people loves it
>>280087740isnt the author working on the show as well
>>280087820woah I can't believe the director is posting on /a/
>>280087820It's fine if people like it, just don't go inventing reasons for stuff that's obviously wrong and was added just for visual flair.
>>280087375>Savants/church of machinery and Roselle are a thingI don't recall any point in the novel where programming in the sense of electronics was explicitly mentioned to be possible with Roselle's steampunk tech. On the contrary, many aspects of modern tech are explicitly mentioned to be unusable. You don't get away with "Roselle could do some cool steampunk shit and my headcanon is included in this!"
>>280087833>urghhhh everyone liking it is brown because i say so
>>280087705>[redacted] slammed into Leonard, throwing him to the wall. The wall collapsed from the impact.>Leonardโs bones cracked, and there was blood spewing out from his mouth incessantly. Without even having the urge to struggle, he fainted instantly.Leonard bro where is your teleport skill? KWAB
>>280087509If that's your claim then you shouldn't have a problem with anything he's done, when combined with magically granted combat experience. He's not going full Matrix dodging bullets here, he's anticipating and moving in advance, and bending weak metal objects.
>>280087865There is a part in the novel where the church of machinery uses a remote controlled robot, so I think lamps with light sensors are within their capabilities. Since you're shilling so hard despite not even knowing novel content, I conclude that you're a paid pajeet shill. Can you tell us when the dubs are coming out?
>>280087862Hey it calls speculation
The adaptation cant be 1:1 anyway, and see no issue when then changing things around to make it more interesting for a wider audience
>>280087847Bold of you to assume he has full creative control.
>>280087790arianna/evernight goddess is erasing him so her new blessed klein doesn't see things he shouldn't
>>280087921I don't have an issue with that either. I have an issue when the changes conflict with canon and are bound to create plotholes. Either Leonard has to be a teleporting hercules in every fight and everything gets upscaled to match him, or he mysteriously loses these powers at the critical moment and it makes no sense.
>>280087934>tfw the 3 episode rule was popularized by madoka>fucking /a/ itself has influenced the culture around mediaHow?
>>280087934I really hope this shit will start "donghua revolution" just like how Chinaman complaining about Genshin, the reason why massive change happend in gacha game industry.
>>280087963> changes conflict with canonThe animation is a separated canon
> are bound to create plotholesYou dont know that, please be patient this is just ep2
>>280087995>The animation is a separated canonThen it sucks, simple as.
>>280087982What change? Less censoring?
>>280088019No? Itโs an adaptation, as long as it stays true to the main theme it doesnt have to follow all autistic details
>>280087978>3 episode>3 weeks>1 monthin 1 month the anime studio can learn so many thing from feedback and come up with better idea for the next episode
>>280088047One of the main themes of lotm is the powerlevel system. Throwing the structure out by making sequence 8s powerhouses ruins that.
>>280088050You think they finish animating the episode one week before screening or sth?
>>280088050They're working on season 2 right now and greenlit season 3 last week.
>>280087868>turd worlder isn't proficient in englishMany such cases!
>>280087913>There is a part in the novel where the church of machinery uses a remote controlled robotOh I am so sorry for not perfectly recalling every single line of the novel to perfection. The question though is whether any normal person could "remote control" such robots or whether they require a beyonder to steer it.
Be sure to watch the supplementary mini episodes to understand the fucking core concepts of the world!
>>280088270i am so tempted to wait until all episodes are out, then stitch things up to remove unnecessary spoilers and retarded intro, and call it taiwan edition
>>280087934>not episode 8Bros...?
>>280088495 the pregnant woman show up in episode 8
>klein is into young and fertile women
Dare I say it, based?
>>280088270Are these episodes only on twitter?
>>280088270>look up linkhttps://x.com/LOTM_WORLD/status/1939267812385562969
>no English subtitles despite the post being in EnglishOh... Well...
>>280088634This was my favorite "running gag".
>>280088846Klein don't want to follow Rossele footstop who keep fucking others people wife(milf)
>>>280088801New bread guys, ignore the other shitty bait threads