New episode just aired!

Click here to laugh at the seething over the best girl!

>>280077569 (OP)
Meroron saved Uta's life
She's been officially R E D E E M E D

>1 second into the episode
Kokoro please...

ZUKYOON STEP ON ME

THIS WEEK ON SUPER HERO TIME

>>280077569 (OP)
People here seem fine with Kokoro and Uta.

This needs to be said again but the fairies song is good, but it had to be cut for a mediocre 3DCG finisher. Leaving only the サビ like a good TikTok or Youtube Short video.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bLpxiGJo1zQ
Awakening Harmony playing for maximal emotional impact FUCKING WHEN?

SUPER KYUN-KYUN!

>wonderful's supers were diamond ribbon style
>idol's super is heart ribbon style
Oh I am already cringing at the thought of the cure team that'll be unlucky enough to be stuck with THAT as their ribbon style...

>>280077642
I really want to watch that smug guy with the glasses get punched in his smug fucking face.

Instead of Meroron getting the ribbon as usual nowadays, it's Purirun getting her plastic KirakiLight. Nice.

>>280077764
You don't need to put emphasis on 'plastic'.

>>280077764
I was wondering what was keeping the monster going after it lost its host.
>Kiss watching like a good cuckquean

>>280077812
Yes I'll do that for a 1,300 yen tier replaceable plastic item.

So many cliffhangers lately

I'm craving for some Purikyua gummies right now

>>280077692
What, drop? Clover? Star?

>>280077885
fucking hot

>>280077569 (OP)
This plot is so boring, please save us Kaito-kun

I'm not a heartless person but I cannot help but think that they haven't got together for that long.

>>280077906
Sorry, he comically died in a masturbation session after trying to suck too many dildos at the same time.

>>280077950
I cried harder over a puppy that I only knew for a month.

Look carefully Meroron.

Very good...

kyunkyunshitemasu

Kirakira Precure A La Review 21!

I'll try and be fast as to not clutter up the fresh episode; besides I got some new books today on mermaids.

Summary for the anons that need it: Ciel is lost in thought as she happens upon Ichika hard deciding on strawberries. Ciel is so confused by Ichika's kirakiraru power she confronts Ichika right in the middle of the shop, only for both to realize they are about to blurt their own interconnected secrets. The two make their purchases and then run their sepperate ways. Outside the shop, Ichika sees some strange lights. Going full predator mode, Ichika jumps the lights only to get bamboozled. When Ichika calls them ghosts, the old man ghost realizes what it is and he drags the girls up the mountain. Whipping out his umbrella, he has Ichika make the call to the mountain grove. Down in the town, Ciel sees the call and naruto runs up the mountain. With all the fairies showing up, Ichika calls for a party and everyone begins preparing the mousses for the celebration. When everything is together Ichika announces the party started, only for Ciel to stop them. The girls are confused, only for Ciel to reveal she is one of the more powerful fairies. After a some more verbal shenanigans, Bibury appears to steal all the kirakiraru. The Cures hop into action, but the MoTW is very strong with all the extra Kirakiraru about and Ciel pops in with an umbrella blast to save the Cures. With their motivation found in Ciel, the cures hop forward to purify the MoTW. Afterwards Fairy Ciel begs to become Whip's deciple; Custard and Macaron pondering how much Ciel now sounds like Ichika. But out of the darkness appears a super powered Julio. COOKING DECORATION: PEKORIN MOUSSES.

>>280077875
Judging by that pattern there'll be a team with a club ribbon style, and a team with a ribbon style that's shitpost bait.

FOOD WARS!

Surely we're getting a Nana episode next.

>>280077950
Anon, they literally slept together for months.

Pretty Holic shilling in the preview, just because.

>>280078034
Honestly Ciel and Ichika have to have the same stat ratios or something, and neither of them seemed to have put anything into intelligence. I'm not to surprised Ciel is a bit of a dummy, that's pretty on par for a Fairy, but it makes me wonder how many Frenchies know she's a secret plushie and just never spoke up. Maybe her whole staff? Wouldn't surprise me, but we(me for now) will never know.

>>280077989
>Move her eyes and mouth just a few pixels out
There, it's fixed.

APOLOGIZE
ORZ

>>280078083
Who?
Week after next is Kaito's seiyuu's birthday, that could be time for a focus episode.

>>280078120
>>280078147
Oh anon, it's so big-mero~

>>280078120
>>280078147
There's no way that can fit, have mercy mero~

>>280078101
The other cures really didn't get much this episode, like each a single inconsequential line that I didn't even think I'd need. Akira was just berated for not appearing like someone who would be a precure; AKA she looked too manish. Aoi just exclaimed how many Fairies appeared. Himari got a short fright over ghosts, and then pointed out Ichika and Ciel were so alike. At least Yukari got some silly time in.

ZUKYOONKISS VS IDOL PRECURE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wAWVWGni7bY

>>280078165
>that could be time for a focus episode
30 seconds of screen time is more than enough.
And then he can appear again around episode 30.

>>280078203
What exactly is happening here....?

>>280078203
Anyway, I aint got much else and I don't want to bloat the thread with such an exciting episode for you all. Funny episode, but pretty dialogue heavy with Ichika and Ciel constantly tripping over each other.

>>280078235
She's giving the fairies belly rubs the way she gives Ichika chin rubs.

>>280078235

>>280078034
>Ciel is so confused by Ichika's kirakiraru power she confronts Ichika right in the middle of the shop, only for both to realize they are about to blurt their own interconnected secrets
Do they have a weird scene there when they end up making funny faces and laughing?
>Afterwards Fairy Ciel begs to become Whip's deciple
Nice turnabout.

>>280077569 (OP)
What was Zakkuri planning on doing after Kuraiyaminda lost?

>>280078338

>>280077990
>>280078014
>>280078120
>>280078147
Get fucked, you stupid fairy bitch.

>>280078350
>Do they have a weird scene there when they end up making funny faces and laughing?
They didn't have any funny faces, but they were laughing at each other to save face. That old guy is the weird face.

>>280077906
>Thinking Kaito will be better than PuriMero
He will probably get a two-parter somewhere but still will be a tertiary character in the end.

>>280078090
There's a lot of days that happens off-screen too. If 1 episode was 1 day then only 50-70 days would pass, which isn't nearly enough for all the events like halloween and christmas, or the passage of seasons.

>>280078352
Suicide by Cure.

Should I be waiting for [Serenae] or are the default subs okay?

>;-;

I bust a nut to Meroron...

>>280079037
I'm a newfag so I shouldn't talk but I download the default subs
They're quicker and I don't think theres any issues with it
And Serenae doesn't seem that much better unless someone here can tell me why Serenae is just that much better

>>280079037
I never understood why you guys wait for those subs. Watch what you like but both are more than fine.

>>280079037
Serenae does a better job with the subs.

>>280079231
Like it is more accurate or is it just funnier?

>>280079184
Serenae's subs are much better.

>>280079276
Much more accurate.

>>280079309
For precure they are the same thing.

>>280079343
Retard

>>280079276
Higher quality.

>>280079276
Serenae takes longer because they correct the translation a more, but since Precure has toddler tier japanese, going with the default subs is more than ok.

>>280079037
Wait for Serenae.

>>280077885
Beach movie?!

>>280079407
Oh they're definitely not getting civilian forms

>>280079171
Pretty much every site uses the default ones, you can keep using them, the differences like you said are minimal.

>>280079037
Default is fine.

>>280079171
[Serenae] is a /pc/ poster that has been subbing Precure for a long time, including the early Crunchyroll days during Healin' Good when the subs would have outright mistranslations.
Seems like mistranslations are less common nowadays but still kinda dry.

It's like why risk if this dude has been consistently better since the beginning? Waiting a couple hours more isn't a problem.

>Even without her Uta related memories and constant gaslighting, Meroron still isn't number one for Purirun.
>Purirun and Uta sang together and caused a miracle.
Purirun/Meroron has never been more over. At least Meroron hasn't gone so far as to let Uta die, but she's still a bitch.
>Idol Precure vs ZukyoonKiss is a shilling makeup competition.
Yeah, that sounds fun. I'd take that over an idol competition.

yfw another 3 episodes of Meroron before Nana and Kokoro get another one

>>280079658
Recently there is little difference between their subs, they have gotten quite good so at this point it's just a matter of preference.

Ep 21 subs:

https://nyaa.si/view/1987474
https://nyaa.si/view/1987473

>>280079851
>Nana birthday is a Meroron episode
RIP Nana. I did like the little screen time she had in the first half of the episode though

>>280079851
Man I wanna hear a new song for once...
>>280079869
Nice!

I can't call a Precure my favorite unless an argument about them being a bitch can be made. I love Karen, Kurumi, Erika, Hime, Laura, Yuki and now Meroron.

>>280079903
You missed Rin.

>>280079925
I mean, look at her. She looks like a basic tomboy. Meanwhile Karen and Kurumi actually have bad bitch looks.

>>280079869
Thanks for the subs.

ED2 is in! Apparently...
https://x.com/precure_marv/status/1939164420804112876/

Yuri won.

>>280079903
You must love Iona.

>>280079869
Thank you, now I can enjoy some precure and morning coffee!

>>280080073
Are they releasing it early?

>>280080078
I do like her, she's my second favorite Hacha after Hime.

>>280080074
Unhealthy yuri winning, yay

*seeds*

I think you can have fun hanging out with them if they are off duty

>>280080073
>Blocked outside of japan
Fugg

>>280079037
Default subs WILL do fine

>>280080141
>最後は5人で後期エンディングテーマ「キミとルララ」を初披露し、オープニングテーマ「キミとアイドルプリキュア Light Up！」に合わせて踊った。
ED2 has been unveiled at a live event today, so why not.
https://mantan-web.jp/article/20250629dog00m200034000c.html

>>280080119

good girl

>Doki Doki Minor!
>Itsu datte Major!
ED2 is so good bros, you can listen to it NOW

>>280079869
god's work anon

>>280080283
>>Doki Doki Minor!
Minori anon keeps winning

oh no!

>>280080304
Terminator reference in my precure?

OUR HEROINES!
...and Kaito.

Good episode!

>>280077863
What a nice thing for friends to do

Can someone the ED for us dumb gaijins?

>>280080619
Just sign into your ｵﾘｺﾝﾐｭｰｼﾞｯｸｽﾄｱ account, and it's right there

>>280080670
No. You do it for me.

>>280080713

Bukkius where

>>280080723
Sex-puri!

>>280080713

I do think it was a little odd Kiss and Zukyoon wrapped up the fight, but other than that, I really liked the episode. Nice to see Purirun finally fully back. I think the next set of episodes will be focused on getting Meroron to willingly join the team... however long that takes. I do wonder how strongly the relationship between Uta and Purirun will be focused on going forward, especially since that didn't seem all that important until episode 17. I think it'll be strongly emphasized, if only for the sake of making Meroron seethe for the next few episodes. At the very least, I wonder who Purirun will sleep with from now on...
This week should come with the rest of July's episode titles. I can't wait to see them.

>>280081120
>This week should come with the rest of July's episode titles. I can't wait to see them.
It's nearly time, yes.

>>280080713

>>280081120
I think Uta and Purirun seemed important from the moment that they decided episode 1 was focused only on them.
You really don't see Precure premieres llke that, just the pink and fairy with no cameos of other Cures.

>>280081120
>comma abuse

>>280080194
I'll hang out with her alright

ngl these forced drama eps were boring so I'm glad we are finally done with that shit
the villains suck too we should get new ones

>>280081751
Just skip to your endgame already and spam "next season when??"

>>280081820
Akane you lucky son of a bitch

>Meroron doubling down
That's my girl. Don't give them an inch.

Long time fan here that decided to quit, now am 3 seasons behind, what should I pick for my return? Sky, Wan or Kimi? Also ask me anything.

>>280082171
Start with Sky, go into Wan and then Kimi. All those seasons are pretty good.

>>280082171
Just go production order if you just want to catch up

Go Kokoro, Go!

>>280078350
The turnabout was super retarded though, like what is Ciel supposed to learn from Ichika?

>>280078290
It wasn't that funny though, and the interactions between Ichika and Ciel felt pretty vapid since they have pretty much nothing in common.

I wonder what the people who want punishment for Meroron want
Her getting beat in a fight? Which was never happening because Cure vs Cure is a big no?
Meroron also confirmed she and Purirun can’t transform individually, so that closes any kind of “evil Kiss” possibility. She now has to seethe about the fact Uta is so beloved to Purirun it was her memories with her that the Lock took as Purirun’s most valuable thing. And it was Uta who caused the miracle that overcame the Lock’s memory sealing. And now Purirun has all her memories back, so she’s fully back to gushing about Uta and Meroron is out of any serious moves. Even of she forces them to live separately, Purirun will still be focused on Uta
I say feelong NTR’d constantly is a good punishment for Meroron

>>280082171
Like the other anons said, production order is best in your situation. Also Sora is a pretty nice MC.

>>280082309
>Also Sora is a pretty nice MC.
Sarcasm?

I wish Uta molesed me with kisses

>>280082352
get in line buddy

>>280082298
I want her to fall in love with Uta and wallow in regret thinking it's too late only for Purirun to remind her that they can just sleep together, so then she pouts and grumbles which feels like a funny pillow to Uta helping her sleep soundly

https://x.com/kon_chiaki/status/1939201844666048617
Cute art from the director

>>280082309
Precious baby

>>280082171
Are you on the fence with quitting again? Consider Kimi and Wonderful then coming back to Sky if it's not your thing.

Uta-chan...

She is really good at crying

Nana did something!

>>280078188
Turn into your human form to get corrected then

>>28007986
Thanks
>How could you give your own general the ol' spicy Shinkai Makai
Onore...

>>280079869
Thanks
>How could you give your own general the ol' spicy Shinkai Makai
Onore...

Since the topic of catching up has come up, does /a/ have any advice to give to a precure newfag?

I'm watching Idol as my first taste of Precure and it's just wonderful. I regret not joining in on the ride a decade or more ago.

I've always watched to watch Smile because I like one of the girls www
The puppy girls from last season look adorable.
I've heard good things abou Heartcatch. The whacky artstyle really stands out and looks like fun. Really reminds me of Stardust Witch Meruru.
I like Doremi and the touching episodes are the bestest.

I suppose it doesn't really matter which order you watch for a series like Precure, just picking what looks cute and fun and jumping in seems ideal.

>>280079858
I’m pretty sure Serenae uses Crunchy as a base to start from anyway

>>280083460
exactly
just watch whatever you want in whatever order your heart desires

>>280081847
People like you who are in denial that people who have a different opinion actually exist and aren’t trolling are way more annoying

>>280082298
I wanted Meroron to be taught that she can’t treat people or her friends like that. To be honest I don’t think they’re handling her very well, at least with these early episodes, and she’s a bad influence for the children watching. She should have been showed the error of her ways besides making a few sad faces when Uta was sad, especially since she hasn’t changed how she acts towards Uta anyway

Meroron literally saved Uta from getting crystal'ed
Meroron did nothing wrong

>>280083460
As I said in the last thread, if you want to watch the good shit only, then you have Fresh, HeartCatch, Smile, and Go Princess.
The other seasons range from mediocre to outright terrible.

>>280083698
You forgot stinkle

>>280078034
> only for Ciel to reveal she is one of the more powerful fairies.
>MoTW is very strong with all the extra Kirakiraru about and Ciel pops in with an umbrella blast to save the Cures.
> Afterwards Fairy Ciel begs to become Whip's deciple
These three part really baffled me, like what do you mean by "more power fairy"? and how the fuck did Ciel protect the Cures from something so powerful? if that doesn't scream OP, then I don't know what.
And the last part was just a poor attempt at irony, like what is there that Ichika knows but Ciel doesn't?

FwP got pretty fucking gay towards the end, can't say I'm surprised they avoided using them for much in Otona.

>>280083698
retard

>>280083698
Genius

Perfume transformation tools are the worst because they teach kids to just spray it everywhere and as much as possible.

>>280084227
They can't spray anything, the toys just make sounds

>>280082298
Purirun chang, hai! Nani ga suki? Nee tama yorimo u-ta-chang puri!!

Here's the preview of the second ED if anyone cares: https://youtu.be/9pe8C-rxAS8?t=1682

>>280080713

>>280084751

Kig performance with the complete team just dropped.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9pe8C-rxAS8

>>280084854
I like how one of the girls in the audience has her hair tied like Wink

>>280084751
I mean its ok but compared to the KINO that is trio dreams it is actual ass

>>280083592
That can still happen. ED2 will be the whole group finisher and creating those is always about teamwork and shit
No way Meroron can do it without changing and dropping her possessiveness and jealousy. I just don’t get people who think the expected plot beats and character development aren’t coming. Teamwork is an essential part of Precure. 0 chance Meroron doesn’t have to drop the individualistic shit she’s doing, overly focused on what she wants
But of course that will necessitate understanding her and what she is and why exactly she’s like this and why she’s different from other Kirakiland fairies. For now, this is fine

>>280084751
Bretty good

Who is the pinkest pink cure?
The one who represents the pink cure the most.

>>280084994

>>280084751
I like it.

>>280082250
what is she doing it's kinda scary

>>280082171
Kimi is the first good precure since TR, just watch it.

>>280084994
Obviously Nozomi

>>280085040
It's called breakdancing anon

>>280085177
She's moving like a creepy crawling monster bug.

>>280085194
Yeah her animation needed more frames

>>280081973
That was funny. Like, Meroron, you saw Uta manifest a miracle for the sake of Purirun. It couldn't be more over. Hell, it was over back in episode 17. Accept reality already, you stubborn bitch.
>>280082298
Personally, I want her to despair as she finally realizes Purirun can never be hers and then apologize a little, at least for not being as much of a team player as she could be.

>>280082298
>>280083592
>sacrificed her wish for Purirun
>dedicated her life to care for her
>protected Uta from attack with her own body
Punish for what? For being the most selfless and dedicated character in Precure?

>>280084906
>call a character "madly in love"
>call her Cure Kiss because she wants to kiss her loved one
>expecting her to mellow down and lose her determining traits
Now that would really be a character assassination.

Meroron should get an actual villain arc and kidnap Purirun.

>>280084854
I need kig Kiss to sit on my face

>>280084906
Nah, I highly doubt that they'll bring up Meroron being a complete psycho and keeping Purirun away from her friends and in the dark about her lost memories. It's going to get swept under the rug while she just learns to accept them as teammates or something along those lines

2023 — 20th
2024 — 21th
2025 — 22th
2026 — 23th
2027 — 24th
2028 — 25th

>>280085240
It's so over. There's no way the plot is intentionally moving her to a breaking point. Would be crazy if something will happen to Meroron which will make Purirun realize how much did she take from her for granted and pursuit her.
Them shouting "Zukyun Kissu destiny" every episode also clearly isn't supposed to mean anything.

>>280085353
It's 21st and 23rd anon

>Thinking it's over when Meroron hasn't even played her trump card yet
She's gonna win. Trust the plan.

>Uta is still Puririn's No.1
So I guess Meroron's sacrifice to become a Cure is losing the possibility of reciprocal love from Puririn? Makes sense the Queen doesn't want to talk about lesbiansim with Tanaka and the kids.

>>280085379
but it's definitely 22th right now, right?

>>280085425
22nd

>>280085423
That sounds like a stretch

Can we at least agree that this past ZukyoonKiss arc has just been forced melodrama: the arc

>>280085457
>Can we at least agree that
No.

>>280085457
Easily. It all started with a plot device, it ended with a miracle for Purirun.
I'm not impressed.

>>280085457
That was a ZukyoonUta arc, ZukyoonKiss arc is just getting started!

>>280085605
Shinobu mommy

>>280085444
Then what is it?!

>>280085457
I love the arc so far for highlighting how strong the bond Uta and Purirun is and how ungodly stubborn Meroron is.
>>280085501
>ended with a miracle for Purirun.
Nah, it doesn't end until Meroron finally accepts Uta is Purirun's number one, finally admits what she lost, and actually willingly joins the team.

>Uta is a whore who blushes at every cool idol
>Meroron is a devoted high spec goth gf who will feed you in a naked apron daily
An easy choice.

https://youtu.be/9pe8C-rxAS8?t=1682
ED 2

>>280085901
Third post with this video in this thread

>>280085901
Somehow scrolled through them. Expected a bigger reaction.

>>280085917
I love Freshness Burger

>Okouchi happened
>Nothing fucking happened, neither in favor or disfavor of yuri
But why?

>Okouchi happened
>giant robots are not fighting
But why?

>>280086009
Even putting yuri aside.....

The episode was surprisingly underwhelming. Pretty much a bog standard plot, the same old safe option, Purirun just gets her memories back *and* still gets the benefits from the wish, with no downsides.

I honestly do not know why multiple staff members were trying to hype this up, because it was not a special episode by any means.

>>280086112
Maybe because you're not the target demographic. Little kids are.

>>280083698
>Not putting Hugtto in with the good seasons
retard

>>280086112
>Purirun just gets her memories back *and* still gets the benefits from the wish, with no downsides.
It's one big miracle.
Damn this wasn't interesting.

You know, I was expecting a bit more buildup to her arrival.

>>280085917
Nobody tell Mayu.

>>280082298
>I wonder what the people who want punishment for Meroron want
Her getting Lauda’ed and gaining a male love interest at the last minute, hopefully Okouchi will still be doing more episodes this season.

>>280086009
Nah, we got Meroron doubling down hard in the face of inevitable Uta/Purirun. It was fun on the yuri side.
>>280086112
>>280086185
I don't really mind that though I do think there would have been more impact if there was an episode for Uta and Purirun making new memories before she got them back. That said, people saying the arc is over when Meroron still hasn't been properly dealt with are silly.

>>280086112
I didn't like the
>lol it's just a miracle whatever!
part, but the part I hated the most was the emotional beat of the episode where Uta realizes that she just has to create new memories from now on. She goes over to Purirun's place and they take a brand new fresh-slate picture, and promise to start over with new memories, and it was actually kind of sweet and a good message............and then they pretty much just throw it out minutes later with a "miracle".

>>280082298
>I wonder what the people who want punishment for Meroron want
I can't speak for anyone else but I want this.

>>280086281
>Super ultra possessive of her beloved “Nee-tama”
She has all the makings of another Lauda, get ready yuricucks.

>>280077569 (OP)
Meroron is so popular with girls.

>>280086301
Wonderful is that way anon ->

>>280082215
>Sky
>good
Why would you lie like that?

>>280086360
>Lauda
>Lauda
>Lauda
I have no idea who that is and I don't care

>>280086361
Just not the girl that she wants.

>>280086369
Where do I go for Suite?

>>280086434
Not the IdolP movie LOL

>>280086399
>I have no idea who that is
Yaoi version of Meroron that today’s episode writer Okouchi wrote.

>>280086408
Can't be helped indeed, her devotion is charming.

>>280086454
Where do I go for Idol pee?

Coomer here, are Tsubomi and Erika good faps?

>>280086482
Ohhhhhh yeah, dems good faps hehe.

>>280086482
IF you enjoy fapping to stick figures

>>280086459
>Yaoi
Get fucked.

Wtf

>>280086462
I feel like most people would have given up after a scene like this, but Meroron is really showing off the recurring Precure concept of never giving up in the face of hopelessness. I can't hate her at all even if she's being way too stubborn for her own good.
Frankly, I think she'll fail to become Purirun's number one and have to deal with that, but perhaps a miracle will happen for her too.

>>280086540
Bomi kiss~

>>280086578
Cute and officially canon...

>>280086676
DOPE

I have a solution for the Meroron problem.
Just make her lose all her memories permanently, never to come back ever.

>>280077950
Couldn't agree more, this whole memory-losing thing happened so early and ended so quickly, like at least give Purirun a personality first if you wanted to make something dramatic.

>>280085457
I thought the focus on Uta's and Purirun's relationship was really cute, not forced at all. The resolution was pretty rushed but that's Okouchi for you, him and rushed resolutions are a match made in heaven.

>>280086807
Adorbs...

>>280080670
>Sorry, you have been blocked
>You are unable to access orimyu.com

>>280085251
she'll change from Meroron to Mellowon

I need all of Idol's ehe right now.

>>280086927
You can add the idolkig's ehe~ >>280084854

>>280086578
I want Meroron to get all her heart desires, honestly. After all she's gone through, in general, and done, for Purirun, I think she genuinely deserves all her wishes to come true. She gave up a chance at having her own wish to make Purirun's come true. That's something special right there.

>>280086790
On one hand, while the season doesn't really put Uta and Purirun's friendship at the forefront for most of the episodes before 17, there's still a lot of small moments that piled up between the two of them to the point where Purirun willing to give up anything for Uta's sake and Uta being depressed that her memories went away were perfectly believable. It certainly shocked me that Uta and Purirun's feelings for each other were that heavy, but I felt like that was because that was just me underestimating the characters of Uta and Purirun rather than a failure on the show's part.
>>280086807
>Meroron's heart bouncing off of Purirun
kek
>>280086811
While the Uta/Purirun part of the arc is over (and I also agree the resolution to part of this arc was rushed this episode though it doesn't really impact my impression of the arc as a whole), Meroron still has to be dealt with one way or the other so the team can fully form. That's when I would say this arc is genuinely over. Maybe they'll reveal Meroron's secret before she willingly joins the team or maybe she'll save it for later; that's one plot element I'm unsure if they'll reveal soon or not.

>>280083819
I know I said she was more powerful, but in reality she just knows how to make more and better desserts than the other fairies. Combat strength is never really said. From there the umbrella attack was more a distraction while the cures picked themselves up. Finally Ciel hasn't eluded to it too much since the first episode she was in, but she gets the real big lusty eyes for Precures and was drooling over Whip. The end of the episode is just Ciel wanting to be a legendary precure.
Now this is probably just headcanon, but what it seems like is she's been going so hard in the desserts thinking she would be able to become a Precure herself.

>>280087035
Oh no she's been defeated!

You have just turned into an irredeemably evil bastard, which precure finisher would you die to?
Death, no purification for you.

>>280087117
Only the finest destruction will do.

>>280087117
Yui's infinite kilocal punch, or Yuko's colony drop.

>>280087111
Eating for two or for three?

>>280087057

>>280087117
Torn between being hugged WP style and being exploded TR style

>>280087243
Hetfags can't explain why Kokoro blushed here...

>>280080073
Cant believe we’re really at the time for a new ED.

>>280087117
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tde1Q8XoDKs
I'd die happy atleast

>>280086360
Terrible comparison. Meroron and Purirun are good characters. Lauda and Guel were the worst parts of G-Witch.

What the helly?
What the helly?
What the helly?
What the helly?

>>280087111
>>280087500
Suteki~

>>280087499
Lick lick lick lick.

>>280085917
>>280087111
>>280087500
Are they carb loading for an event?

https://x.com/guy_n/status/1939178552404123688

Without a doubt, Zukyoon is the best Cure design in KimiPre. Too bad Purirun is such a non-character.

>>280087055
>Now this is probably just headcanon, but what it seems like is she's been going so hard in the desserts thinking she would be able to become a Precure herself.
That's actually the case though, her backstory reveals that she and her brother have always wanted to be Precures, even though there's no explanation for why.

>>280087500
>Italian + cheesestake
>plus coffee
Is this breakfast? Lunch?
I can never tell with the Japanese.

>>280087499
TAIS TOI, PUTE

>>280087588
>non-character
meaningless statement

>>280087588
Purirun is a based retard.
She was holding back a bit during the memory loss, but she's back now.

>>280087443
>Terrible comparison. Meroron and Purirun are good characters. Lauda and Guel were the worst parts of G-Witch.
Doesn’t matter which duo is good or bad, their relationship dynamic and story beats are similiar either way and Okouchi is writing both too.

So you just know Meroron’s whole arc is going to be to learn to move on from her unhealthy attachment to her nee-san and have her own life and friends as well as love interest outside of her.

>>280087743
Is there some reason why you think a writer that wrote one episode is suddenly going to take over the whole season?

>>280087443
Nah, Guel was the best part of G-Witch, he's the only character who has a complete character arc.
His conflict with Lauda in the last few episodes was handled very badly though.

>>280087594
>there's no explanation for why.
I think its pretty easy when she keeps saying "Legendary Precure."

>>280087761
Why would they even hire Okouchi in the first place?

>>280087842
To write an episode?
This isn't something hard to understand.

>>280087794
>His conflict with Lauda in the last few episodes was handled very badly though.
Do you think Meroron and Purirun’s will be better handled?

>>280086927
Ask and ye shall receive.
https://i.4cdn.org/wsg/1751205152974703.webm

All ehes are good ehes. But which is your favorite ehe so far?

One of the cutest catchphrases in Precure.

>>280088039
That's like the only line Kokoro says anymore

>>280087443
Purirun is barely even a character compared to Guel.

Nana is determined.

>>280087808
Yeah, but what the hell makes that suoer special?
If you want to develop a character, give them a reason for why they want to achieve something.

>>280079903
>I can't call a Precure my favorite unless an argument about them being a bitch can be made. I love Karen, Kurumi, Erika, Hime, Laura, Yuki and now Meroron.
What about Yukari?

https://x.com/mai620907/status/1939207117057204681

>>280087861
I hope so.

>>280088208
NTA but she's useless to mpared to others.

Evilest fairy since Phantom?

>>280088275
> to mpared to others.
*****compared to others.

I know they are having meeting scenes but these generals are almost as bad as the HS ones. I just don't care about them.

They completely dropped the ball with this Purirun memory arc. The whole episode was pointless. They HAD A GOOD THING GOING with them promising to make new memories! Like that was the whole point of the episode, Uta fucking cried her eyes out, then got cheered up by Top Dad who gave her the pivotal idea, and then she barged into Meroron's home to make a new pact with Purirun and it was all really moving and promising!

then, they tossed the whole episode in the dumpster like a cheap whore. oh, purirun just gets all her memories back now. what was even the point of ALL THAT then.

Apparently this "Okouchi" dude is new, and it really shows. What a dogshit boring pointless writing decision. I checked and yeah even AzenZone agrees.

>>280088382
It's pretty standard in terms of the series

Hamori is really cute.
>>280088408
It doesn't feel that way to me. I don't know what it is but they just don't give me a good vibe.

They should make their own cure team. Who would you want to be the lead?

>>280088482
what happened to wakaba

>>280088382
I think Cutty is genuinely great, and Zakkuri has been getting a lot of hints of something starting to boil underneath, from the praising the Cures with a serious face, getting tired and wanting a vacation, etc. He's likely going a similar route of Cutty but in a different kind of way.
Their participation is a bit minimalist right now, taking the backseat for the PuriMero arc but that isn't bad by itself, I imagine a new guy will join eventually to spice things up.

>>280088406
Whether a main character recovers their memories or continues amnesiac isn't on the episode writer. The mistake was pushing things in that "We'll make new memories!" direction if he knew he had to actually let her recover her memories by the end.

>>280087588
Purirun is a good character. The problem is the ludonarrative dissonance between her and Zukyuun.

Add stealing gummies to the list of Meroron's crimes.
>>280088517
I never cared for Cutty but I think he had a decent arc.
As for the others, annoying voice guy has been all over the place and the hot lady doesn't do anything.
>I imagine a new guy will join eventually to spice things up
My worry is they go the strong and serious type with a new general, if there even is one.

>>280087909
Thank you for the additional ear rape

Merobros, Whats our next move?

>>280088602
>I never cared for Cutty
I think he was the best general in quite a few years.
>My worry is they go the strong and serious type with a new general
A strong type works to raise the stakes. I would take a more Joker-type who is strong but funny rather than a Skearhead-type though.

>>280088632
>asking 'bout moves when you're not even in the game

>>280088643
>I think he was the best general in quite a few years.
Nah, not when we had Torame and Zakuro literally just last season

>>280088406
This was a main writer decision.
In any case, in a meta level (this is a kid's show) it was kinda obvious that Purirun would recover her memory.

Uta is a good girl.
>>280088643
>I think he was the best general in quite a few years
Better than the HS generals but Zakuro blows him out of the water.
>A strong type works to raise the stakes
In theory but then they become less threatening, like Skearhead.
Usually the generals that join after the midseason aren't interesting or fun, I would be surprised if that changed.

>>280088406
>I checked and yeah even AzenZone agrees.
You still watch that fat fuck? He always turns on every season anyways, I don't even waste time anymore. By the mid-point or so it's 10 minutes of complaining.

lole

>>280088727
Sure, but not like.... so lazily, right? Why negate the whole heart lock and its consequences? And why even have Uta do this whole crying rollercoaster miniarc to come to a big determination to "start over with new memories", if it's immediately not going to matter anyway

That's rare. Stuff like that almost never happens to cures.

The major flaw of duos.

>>280088755
>Better than the HS generals but Zakuro blows him out of the water.
I don't really think Zakuro is better, she's sexier but I think Cutty's appreciation is more wholesome and funnier than "hot wolf dick".
>In theory but then they become less threatening, like Skearhead.
The problem with Skearhead is doing the grunt work himself.
Precure knew how to do this formula before: You simply save the "strong" generals for more important episodes rather than using them weekly. For example when Close comes back in GoPri, they also bring back Stop and Freeze, simple generals but who play the important factor of not overusing new Close. In a similar way Dark Precure, Joker himself, etc.

>>280088406
>I checked and yeah even AzenZone agrees.
Stop acting like a literal who's opinion has any authority whatsoever, I'm about to filter this shit

>>280088839
I don't think there's anyone who watches his videos, like there's not a single video that's surpassed 100K or even 50K views.

>>280088761
He knows his stuff, makes good points, people hate him because he tells the truth. Hugbox positive-validation videos are soulless and intellectually bankrupt. It's a channel that tells you right from the start that he analyzes from an adult's perspective, so if that isn't for you, you can go watch the gay brazilian gush non-stop positive fluff instead.
>but he complains
That's the point, it's criticism. And very valid criticism at that.

Idol is very vanilla. Meroron and the lock finally added some spice ans now it's all gone...

I hope they do something good with Meroron's backstory at least, and go through with it. Wonderful, while having some boring episodes, delivered with the plot points it established

Poor guy. At least they let him stay in the attic.
>>280088823
>I think Cutty's appreciation is more wholesome and funnier
Zakuro's reasons to help Gaoh were pure though. They did also play off her crush in ways that were funnier than what Cutty did.
>The problem with Skearhead is doing the grunt work himself
Yeah but if they were to add a new general now I could see him doing the same thing.
I really don't know if they will add another though, hot lady is already the boss and she seems set on not hiring anyone else.

>>280088796
I could see Meroron becoming one of those in the future

>Needs to watch YouTubers for validation on children's anime
lol

>>280088998
They already said it was one of a kind.

I know they did it for merchandise reasons, it's obvious, but I really disdain they're keeping the fairies tiny sized when they're not cures. Meroron is actually interesting, but I can't take her jealousy and feelings seriously when she speaks like a little kid

>>280085342
And if she does, that’s fine
It’s still her growing. Show, don’t tell. They don’t need to explicitly say what she did wrong. Just have her change and integrate with the rest

>>280088942
He makes -some- good points, sometimes, but he also has this autism where he attaches himself to a nothing burger angle and starts the equivalent of schizoposting.

He snowballs from there getting more absurd and nonsensical. You're dumb if you can only see the first layer and think "well he made sense before, so he must make sense all the time, right??", just complaining isn't inherently good if it's coming from an alien nitpicking that nobody else in the community mentions or cares, and that's how he starts disliking a lot of seasons, for nonsensical reasons, so I have no reason to take his word EVEN if he says some reasonable stuff sometimes.

>>280089036
Nah, she needs to be directly confronted for her actions

>>280089006
These people have no opinions of their own. It's typically those types who come here asking "Uumm guys what do we think about this thing? Is it a good thing or a bad thing?"

I wish Meroron was actually evil and more bitchy

>>280089036
>They don’t need to explicitly say what she did wrong
Why not? This is a kids show, they tend to spell things out.

>>280089080
Facts

I liked how Purirun acted a little more like Zukyoon when she was hugging and comforting Uta.

>>280089083
Why would you want a civil war on /pc/?

>>280089083
She stole like 40 packs of gummies, that's super evil.

>>280089114
>implying /pc/ isn't always at each other's throats

>>280089126
That's as many as four tens!

>>280088985
>They did also play off her crush in ways that were funnier than what Cutty did.
Her gushing was funny but it was the same every time because Gaoh never reacted, Cutty actually had clever jokes and reacted to the Cures which is a more active thing (we see both on-screen). Him holding back is less flashy than Zakuro but that also makes it funnier, he isn't supposed to do it, meanwhile there's nobody to stop Zakuro.
>hot lady is already the boss and she seems set on not hiring anyone else.
She will be forced too if Zakkuri retires, or Darkiine might force them to do it.

>>280089083
It's not going to happen unfortunately. I was hoping she would somehow reverse Purirun's memory recovery and make her into her mindslave again which would lead into the IP vs. ZQNK next episode but Kato in his great wisdom just made it into a for funsies filler episode instead.

>>280088953
>Wonderful
>delivered on the plot points it established
They went back on being a season about communication and reconciliation and had it so that the main antagonist was a human all along simply getting enraged on behalf of his wolf friends who genuinely dgaf.

>>280085251
Right now, she’s only fighting because Purirun wants and her only partner is Purirun. The Cures are 3 + 2 instead of 5.
That doesn’t work for a group finisher. Meroron needs to grow and accept being in a group of 5 instead of rejecting everyone who isn’t Purirun. Her shielding Uta is a good moment, though. Shows she cares for more than Purirun and that she can properly become friends with the girls

>>280089155
Darkiine will do it herself.

>>280089006
I feel so ancient every time he's brought up here.

That was great.

>>280089027
>but I can't take her jealousy and feelings seriously
are we supposed to?

>>280088985
>I really don't know if they will add another though, hot lady is already the boss and she seems set on not hiring anyone else.
The show seems to be pushing the point that Zakkuri can't do shit by himself as is pretty hard. Maybe Darkiine will force the Chokkine to actually work instead of revealing a new general. I don't think a shift in status quo on the general end will happen next episode though. It may happen once Meroron joins the team or it'll wait until it's time to kick off the group attack episodes (though I have a feeling Meroron will only actually join the team when it's group attack time and her integrating into the group may be a long and grueling 2 month process. I'd take that over the egg arc of Wonderful to be honest, as long as we get a Nana and Kokoro episode mixed in somewhere).

>>280088942
His stuff are hit or miss though, he makes good points sometimes, but other times he can be too forgiving.
Although my biggest problem with him is that his videos are way too short (why would I waste my time on an 8 minute video of this guy talking about only one episode), and I also think a lot of his content are cringe.

>>280089179
I doubt it wilk be a true filler just because it’s not serious
It will contribute to Meroron’s gradual growth, but people like >>280089087
>>280089061 just want big scenes and where the characters rant about what she did wrong and changes in an instant instead of showing her gradually growing and moving away from her worst tendencies

>>280089184
there's literally nothing more rabid than an enraged animal hippie, bonus points if you killed his best friend. Many saw it coming that fake Gaoh wasn't a real wolf. I'm not saying it's perfect or a masterpiece by any means (the last battle was pathetic), there's a lot to improve, but I didn't see it as them swaying from the OG theme

>>280088632
We'll BTFO the nee-tama thieves in the next episode bro, don't worry.

>>280089108
It does make me wonder how Uta and Purirun's relationship will be portrayed going forward (and how Meroron ties into all that). They'll definitely still do dumb shit together, but there's been a shift in status quo since the lock episodes happened.

>>280088278
I think you mean the most selfless since Mofurun.

>>280089263
>I'd take that over the egg arc of Wonderful to be honest
Wonderful had some fun episodes around that time, like the it's too hot episode and the Yuki is afraid of snakes one.

>>280089258
yes...? Her love is the whole point of her character, it's what saved her from darkness. The final part of the date episode where she kissed Purirun wasn't depicted as funny

>>280089296
I'm not saying that the Idol Precure needs to confront her but Meroron needs to realize what she did was extremely selfish and communicate that to the target audience. Real growth is admitting you were wrong when you were wrong and I do not want her actions swept under the rug. She needs to apologize and outright state she was being selfish

>>280089379
Yeah I'm not taking any of that seriously.

>>280088406
>Why don’t characters know the plot to their own episodes
Retard. Of course Uta is gonna act like this before she makes the miracle. She honestly thought Purirun’s memory was gone for good
And of course Cure can work miracles like this. In All-Stars F, a cosmic entity killed all of them and they still came back to life. You and Youtube retard should stop watching Precure

>The moralfags have arrived
Here we go again...

>>280089399
me neither, but just because of her squeaky voice. If anything, even the relationship between Uta and Purirun feels silly to me. They should've framed it as the friendship between a girl and a little alien or something

Kyun² doesn't hold back.

>>280089466
straight for the family jewels

>>280089303
What even is Idol’s main theme?

>>280089381
I don’t see it as necessary. Parents can educate their children on the specifics. Even if it’s a children show, there’s no obligation to spell things out

I feel so happy for Uta. That was a rough arc for her.

>>280089361
I think the egg arc episodes by themselves where fine, but the overall plot and character development of Wonderful was very much just spinning its wheels. Nyammy was already practically part of the team by episode 24 IIRC, the only hang up she had for not doing a group pose was just the name of the group. If the Idol late second cour/early third cour episodes are all focused on fixing Meroron in time for the group attack episodes, it'll feel like some progress will be made every 2-3 episodes even if the progress will be slow. Well, maybe Meroron will commit to the team by episode 24 as well and the July and August episodes will be about something else, who knows.

>>280089523
dunno...uhm...admiring idols? Liking pop stars? How much you love love love idols who, irl, have to look super pretty due to pressure from the industry??

Sure it has battles, but I was way more invested in WP

>>280089452
Not the first time. NozoCoco’s wedding picture in Otona had him in fairy form. Why not human form?

Even in a moment that should be pure happiness Meroron finds a way to make it about herself.

>>280089644
Not him but they were in Coco's kingdom, why wouldn't he be in fairy form in front of his people?

>>280089245
Uta enjoying her plush from the Pretty Store.

>>280089585
>>280089673
I hope Uta and Purirun have a ton of fun with each other next episode despite Meroron's attempts to treat it like a serious competition.
>cooking competition between lead that lives in a restaurant and amateur fairy housewife
RIP Meroron

>>280089635
>>280089523
at the start it looked like they were going for a sort of comparsion between Idols and deities/heroes, someone who people looked up to so to keep their inner light shining, idols actually went through risky things (Kokoro debut episode)

Now it all sounds about fangirling, which isn't really a compelling theme...it would've been better if they went for a "I wanna be famous" plot instead of making all the cures super popular since their debut

>>280089635
WP is the tree hugger season, maybe it's more exemplary, but the less politically correct Idol season entertains me more.

>>280089707
Surely they could find some excuse to have a photo in human form for the audience, right?
As is, it’s no different from the Idol fairies
Would be hypocritical to take one seriously and not the other

I seriously like Yuki more than Meroron. At least she had pure reasons for her actions, Meroron is still trying to keep Purirun for herself.
>>280089735
I hope they have fun too, we really need a cooldown episode after everything that's happened.

>>280089808
>less politically correct Idol
besides Meroron's tantrums and Purirun's antics (at the start) there's really nothing less politically correct in Idol, and even those got toned down. It's pretty barebones. Yuki was way less politically correct in the show's context

>>280089792
>someone who people looked up to so to keep their inner light shining
They could lean hard on that aspect during the endgame, they're just having fun for now.
>it would've been better if they went for a "I wanna be famous" plot instead of making all the cures super popular since their debut
That would be too Aikatsu/Pripara. It's fine that they already start popular, it's a different type of show.

>>280089897
Wrong. Yuki is more politically correct and that’s why retards keep bitching about Meroron more than they ever did about Yuki

>>280089523
I shine because of you, you shine because of me. That's why it's called you and I(dol Precure). It's all about this kind of mutual support and stuff.

>>280089644
>>280089813
Original Anon, in fact, I did NOT take the wedding seriously and cringed at that picture, expecially since in the OG (and way way better) season most of Coco and Nozomi's most important scenes had him as a human and he was more of a character than Purirun. They really jumped the shark keeping her as a little gremlin

>>280089813
They did have one. It's merch though. You got your answer, are you done?

>>280089523
Idol feels like one of those seasons whose thesis isn't all that clear until the end. I don't think that's a bad thing as long as the ride is fun though, and I would say that's something more expected from a plot oriented season than an episodic one. As for a couple of seasons off the top of my head kind of like that, I don't think what ST actually meant by Imagination was all that obvious until near the end, and same goes with Doki's selfishness and love being two sides of the same coin idea.

>>280089897
The idol commentary is something that a lot of parents wouldn't agree, everybody gushing about everybody feels the most sexually charged Precure has ever been, jokes are more daring than average (major proof of that is that /pc/ keeps misunderstanding the jokes in this show in a way that hasn't happened in recent years), etc
Kimi to Idol is quite literally too edgy for some pussies here.

>>280089792
> theme...it would've been better if they went for a "I wanna be famous" plot
That would require more Kaito involvement as a mentor, goal to reach and eventually rival
Did you see how people here reacted in his debut?
The threads would be far uglier. The current complaints against Meroron are nothing compared to what would happen if Kaito had such a role
It’s far better like this

>>280089968
sure, but what Yuki was done was taken very seriously, they got Morio to direct her episode. She was a menace in show. Meroron, despite her love being serious, is never taken seriously and thus her unpolitical correctness comes off as negligible

I can't see Uta losing.

>>280090012
Not in the show itself doesn’t count
Now are you done being a hypocrite?
You only want something to bitch about because yuri bad

>>280090091
>Kaito involvement as a mentor, goal to reach and eventually rival
not necessary, there's a lot more to do
>Did you see how people here reacted in his debut?
>The threads would be far uglier
So...I should prefer a less interesting show only to not anger /pc/'s insufferable autism?...People were livid about Yukari, yet she was one of the few things thaf made Kira interesting

>>280090112
Wrong again
Stop trying this in a thread full of people who dislike Meroron and say Yuki wasn’t that bad. You aren’t fooling anyone as long as people keep bitching about Meroron

>>280090085
I think the right term isn't edgy but "Ojii-san pandering"
Besides Uta, all the girls feel like they came out from some sort of Otaku simulator

>>280090185
I haven't said one single word about yuri being bad. All I did was give an explanation for why Coco was in fairy form.
How about you stop trolling and fuck off already.

>>280090291
All 2d girls are like that

>>280090291
Kimi to Idol carries the same energy of shows like Fresh and Doki, it's a little girl show with a little boy show energy and kind of humor. They just aren't pushing the shounen aspect (big dramatic enemies) very hard here, but it's the same kind of DNA.

>>280090217
/pc/‘s autism would make you unable to defend the show and eventually question if you even like it
You only like that alternative because it’s a clean idea in your head. Maybe in a parallel universe, you’re arguing that all the “I want to become famous” drama is forced or whatever
A lot of ideas that sound interesting in paper can end up not being so when executed
Grass is always greener on the other side

>>280090263
weird way to say you concede the point and have nothing of substance to argue on

Happy Birthday Laura!
Post cute pics and say something nice about this cute mermaid.

>>280088482
Left to right, it's clearly Blue Green Pink

>>280090360
Agreed, but Fresh carried itself a lot better. For that kind of energy to work you have to pander to a slightly older main demographic, which Fresh did and Idol absolutely doesn't

>>280090291
Back to plebbit

>>280090428
Did anyone confirm that she was given birth to out of her mother's vagina?

>>280090445
Fresh is my favorite season of all time, so I don't even bother comparing new stuff to it.
Still having fun with Idol.

>>280089897
>Yuki was way less politically correct in the show's context
I kind of get what you mean, but "punching is bad" as an idea in the context of the other seasons is pretty silly (Hell, even the Kiras would have punched more if they thought it were effective against their enemies). Other than that though, Yuki's motivations were far more noble. She was keeping Mayu apart to protect her from whatever trouble the doggy duo attracted, and it didn't help that the doggy duo didn't seem all that reliable to be honest. It wasn't her job as a pet before to care about random wild animals. That's a little selfish, maybe but perfectly reasonable.
Meanwhile, Meroron is legitimately strongly selfish and wants to be number one to Purirun, even resorting to trying to isolate her from the others and stealing a house. Her desire to be number one is ultimately secondary to Purirun's happiness, so she's not completely selfish. She did feel sorry that Purirun was sad and stealing the gummies (or coercing Tanaka to buy them) was her way of trying to deal with that, but she's still all to willing to let her selfish take control if she thinks she can get away with it in a way that doesn't interfere with Purirun's happiness. She's definitely more morally ambiguous than Yuki.

>>280090299
You’re the one who needs to stop the hypocrisy and fuck off. Your agenda is obvious
I’m sure Idol offering an explanation wouldn’t stop your “can’t take it seriously” bitching

>>280090407
>/pc/‘s autism would make you unable to defend the show and eventually question if you even like it
I'll try to take this thing you said seriously: I think I have indipendent critical thinking anon, I usually disagree with /pc/ as well
>Grass is always greener on the other side
sometimes, it really is tho

>>280090428
Happy birthday my QUEEN!

>>280090445
what is this schizobabble

>>280090423
Whatever you say. Can’t argue with someone who denies reality. You’re doing the equivalent of arguing the sky is green despite everyone saying it’s blue
How is anyone supposed to debate that?
Can’t debate with insane people

>>280090493
it was a really fantastic season, wish they tried something like that again

>Hating on Meroron when she's by far the most interesting part the season
What sort of autism is this?

>>280090501
>but "punching is bad" as an idea
It wasn't punching as an abstract preference for nonviolence, it was that the animals were being manipulated into being dangerous and the most effective way to counter the threat was a combination of defensive maneuvering and soothing their agitated emotions. Striking the animals with force probably won't do that, if you need it spelled out.

>>280090604
that's /pc/ for you. This place had brainrot from too many moe girls. No wonder the most autistic poster still seethe about Laura

>>280090585
Ramblings from a plebbit retard who doesn’t belong here. Anyone who starys saying “made for otaku” as criticism shouldn’t be taken seriously

>>280090428

>>280090428
The strongest.....

>>280089452
I'm deeply sorry for your autism that you still can't understand after Purirun became Zukyoon.

Now that the dust has settled, what do we think about Laura and the consequences of her actions?

>>280090501
OG anon
I'd say that the deliver is very important tho, I was invested and shocked in Yuki. Meroron isn't entertaining as much as her to me. Of course Wonderful had that silly no fight mandate which made that whole deal look ridiculous, but in context it was edgy
>noble
I get what you mean. As I said, the main problem is the delivery. Meroron just sounds like a brat like this

>>280090360
Stop trying to force comparisons between Idol and Doki.

>>280090428
No need to be shy, feel free to praise her with all you've got!

>>280090740
She has never done anything wrong in her entire life

Suddenly I have the urge to go deep sea fishing.

honestly, if pc's most autistic posters don't like something, then that something must be really good. If they do like something, there's a high chance that's slop

>>280090360
>Fresh and Doki, it's a little girl show with a little boy show energy and kind of humor.
I kind of get what you mean. I couldn't help but notice Idol kind of reminded me of Fresh as the season went on, though I couldn't really say why. I'd honestly say only Doki is super obvious about that type of thing though.
>>280090445
Idol kind of does. There's definitely more cross Cure friendship drama than usual this season even if it's mostly because of Meroron.

>>280090748
Look at who wrote Fresh and Doki: The Bomberman Jetters and the Medabots writers respectively.
Now look at who is writing Kimi to Idol: He made Aikatsu (another little girl anime) sure, but he also has Yokai Watch, Time Bokan 24 and Mazica Party (a cardgame anime like Yugioh) in his resume.

It's not just a theory, the previous experience is there.

>>280090445
Idol repeatedly brings up themes from yuri stories with Meroron, that's pretty grown up for little girls.

>>280090875
Schizobabble

>>280090845
>reminded me of Fresh as the season went on, though I couldn't really say why.
Before Idol, Fresh used to be the poster child for the "public heroes" angle. I think a lot of seasons have small moments like that, but Fresh had the most.

>>280090291
No wonder I like it so much

>>280090875
>Medabots
True, but the more relevant comparison for Doki is Digimon Savers.

>>280090927
It's just staff knowledge anon, it's not hidden every Precure staff has pages with all their work.

It's just that male main writers who made shows for boys before have a certain "vibe" that their carry to their little girl shows like Precure.

We have reached the point of the sjow where posters insist that previous season is better than current season.

>>280090955
nothing wrong with it

>>280090995
>sjow

>>280090995
There's like 2 or 3 I think. It's about the same amount as the people who insisted that HS was better than Wonderful.

>>280090995
You can't have a honest discussion about [current season] until it's like 3+ years old.

>>280091050
I can have all the honest discussions I want after I found out I can just talk to myself.

>>280091050
True, though that's the bare minimum. There are seasons that act like trigger words no matter how much time passes like Doki.

Wanpre wasn't afraid of trying something new while Kimipre is just doing everything every other season has done.

I want another classmate general. DP doesn't count.
Maybe they don't want girls to think their mean classmates are darkness monsters.

>>280089808
>WP
>politically correct
The entire season’s premise centers around calling out wokefag white “allies” who keep getting offended and speaking on behalf of minorities, it’s the exact opposite of politically correct.

>>280091173
Nodoka counts.

>>280091110
Saying WP did new things is like saying I'm inventing House 2.0 by removing the roof and walls, just living inside the frame of a house.

>>280091173
Ironically classmates being mean darkness monsters are probably the most relatable villains especially for those girls who still watch Precure in middle school

>>280087561
Towa's royal behind...

>>280090875
Writers working on different shows isn't the argument you think it is.

>>280086762
Her hair is meant to be pulled on during correction

>>280090995
>sjow
We've apparently reached the time of day that you have to make obvious spelling mistakes to go along with your stupid comments.

>>280091110
>Idol
>Doing everything any other season has done
But this is the most daring and risqué Precure’s been, it’s the hardest it’s ever pushed at yuri and Meroron is genuinely the most evil and selfish Cure we’ve had yet! Her Cure Kiss form also feels extremely edgy and sexual.

>>280088795
it still mattered. because uta was willing to put the work.

just because things went ok now it doesn't mean the moment is ruined. the moment happened.

>>280091408
You just described Kirakira.

>>280090291
>Idol
>Ojiisan pandering
Bros, your Kaito???

>>280091356
Precure does have signficant leeway for letting the writer's quirks shine through, so their previous experiences definitely influences how a season eventually turns out. Fresh showed the boy show influence by being the first season to incorporate scifi into its lore, and Doki did so by subtly referencing the seven deadly sins during the season. As for Idol, the most obvious comparison to the writer's previous boy oriented work is how the general trio were a Yatterman-type trio, and the writer was the main writer for Time Bokan 24 (a reimagining of a series in the same franchise as Yatterman).

>>280091658
>Doki did so by subtly referencing the seven deadly sins during the season
Please explain how that's a boy thing.

>>280091658
>Doki did so by subtly referencing the seven deadly sins during the season.
I think Makopi being a lone wolf soldier and Mana literally fighting against a LITERAL DRAGON are good examples of Doki being kinda shounen-ish.
Mana is basically like a genderbent protagonist of a boy show, it's why the show focuses so much on her, she would be the leader of a harem in another world.

>>280091343
>>280090975
>>280090773
>>280090765
>>280090721
>>280090705
>>280090560
>>280090428
Fuck off.m

>>280091789
Was that concept mentioned in a little girl's show before? It seems to be more of a boy show (and chuuni) thing in general.
>>280091828
Yeah, Doki is pretty blatant about the boy show influence; it's an inherent reason why Mana's so controversial.

>>280091828
Yeah man, dragons never existed in Precure before Doki.

>>280091884
>off.m

>>280089887
/pc/‘s been begging for characters with more edge to them for years now, now that we finally have one with Meroron it’s complaining that she’s too selfish and “not pure enough?” /pc/ never knows what it actually wants.

>>280091965
Chinese Mayu

>>280092005
Everyone here isn't one person. People have different likes and dislikes.

>>280091965
Cute

>>280092053
What do you mean?

>>280091992
The Doki fight is different, they really highlight her mucles and how intensely hot the place feels.
It's really hot-blooded and manly. Doki highlights a lot of times how cool Mana is, in a chuuni way that feels like a boy's show.

>>280092005
/pc/ has been asking for well written edge characters. Meroron is a badly written one.

>>280092083
>The Doki fight is different
Yeah, it's worse than the Heartcatch fight.
Now shut the fuck up.

>>280091884

>>280092163
Well that's a fucking movie.
For a TV episode that dragon fight was top tier.

>>280092005
I, for one, am having a ton of fun with Meroron.
I do think a fair complaint is that the Uta/Purirun/Meroron focus of the past 7 (and probably 8 as of next episode) has choked out the Nana and Kokoro relevance. Since Uta and Purirun's issues have been pretty much settled though, that may mean Nana and Kokoro may be able to shine in July and August though as the arc to fix Meroron continues.

>>280092163
You don't have to explain anything I know exactly what you mean. Four two long you have too much quiet inside you but know more.

>>280092072
Subaru owes Zakuro sex

>>280092298
It's the mid-season Cure arc, this shift in focus for a while is expected.

>>280087117
The innocent purification the Hachas used on Mirage....

>>280092285
I don't think it was anything special. There's a reason why it's never mentioned when amazing fights come up.
And you shouldn't say stupid things like Doki had a dragon, it's a manly season.

>>280091992
Movie doesn't really count. A better example would be that one kaiju looking MotW from Max Heart (which I only remember because of the bad animation). Oh, and that one chinese electric dragon MotW that one general from Gogo summoned twice. Those give different vibes from Doki's dragon though.

They do look really good together.

>>280092363

>>280092392
Splash Star had a dragon too.

>>280092389
Doki simply has too many highlights. The trials episode is underrated but I think it's solid fun.

>>280092392

>>280092472
It has the second best shield moment in all of Precure for sure (Lovely Force Shield). Main reason it's not more referenced is because the best shield moment in the franchise is in the same season.

>>280090781
what is sango trying to hide

>>280092472
Practically nobody mentions Doki's fights when that kind of discussion comes up. The absolute most you get is someone posting her dumb kick during the last episode.

>>280092557
>the best shield moment in the franchise is in the same season.
Mint is not in Doki.

>when your nee-tama cares more about her oshi than you

>>280092758
Soon.

>>280092758

>>280092427
Now......................................................

>>280092577
... what do you mean?

>>280092479
That looks cool

>>280092821

Which is the better season up to their midseason climax, HaCha or Idol?

>>280093133
Idol. HaCha first half still has Blue. He's worse in the second half, but I didn't like him in the first half either.

>>280092087
>/pc/ has been asking for well written edge characters. Meroron is a badly written one.
What would be your definition of a well written one?

>>280092914
Yes. I actually liked the style of this episode. Seemed pretty intentional and not just "bad" like people say.

>>280093407

<3

>>280093328
crickets...

>>280093328

>>280094252
No.

>>280093328
Is that a joke? Dark Precure is THE quintessential edgy Precure

>>280094273
yes

>>280094252
Love my girls

>>280094287
Why did it take like half an hour to say that?

>>280094287
Not well written

>>280094356
I’m NTA just catching up with the thread

>>280094287
I'd say she was kind of a badly written one though. She's supposedly heartless and needed to be killed off even though she had pretty bad daddy issues. She's pretty cool, but that's all she has going for her.

>>280094273
Why not? It's cute.
>>280094336
I love them too.

>>280092903
Why was she squeezing her thighs together like that?

>>280093014
>>280092821
>>280092758
kekaroo

>>280094443
Adorbs!!

>>280092087
Meroron isn't particularly poorly written.

We need more artists that ship Laura and Minori.

>>280094591
nta but she's frustratingly written

>>280094610
What makes you say that?

>>280094606
We need more artists that ship you with suicide

>>280094606
only if we can get at least one artist that can ship the teacher with literally anyone so she doesn't end up alone

>>280094663

>>280094405
Dark Precure worked well as an opressive obstacle, she was cool and powerful.
They could've saved her at the end, but I wonder if they didn't want to repeat a Setsuna-like arc too early after Fresh.

>>280094668
The TR teacher? Well, Sango is free but I'm not an artist.
>>280094663
That's rude.

>>280094647
too much edge, not nearly enough cut, she'll never get what she wants if she keeps her hands (and her knife) clean and blood free

>>280094727
>The TR teacher?
Yeah her. She's very cute but clumsy so I worry about her.