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>>280099642https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tpLjfcg7Jok
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>>280099915>sacrificial lamb har har har
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>>280099950Seriously, what the fuck is this chapter
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And that's it for today
Very biblical
Made any deals with the Devil anon?
Never
Thank you for reading
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>>280040699
>>280099972Thanks OP
Every day I utter a powerful incantation that summons music
>>280099950Is this a real folk tale? I guess the lamb was Jesus?
>>280100040It's not a real folk tale
>>280099950he wasn't born yet but this is Wolfram's fault
Weren't we in the middle of a siege?
>>280100233Story telling. The teller interrupt your experience for a segue into a semi-related blurb to pad the show time.
It's like a Hanayama's tattoo chapter in Baki.
>>280099972That was a strange one
Not that I know of.
Thanks OP
>>280099685Schizo or actual devil
>>280099972Thank you for posting.
>>280100190>wasn't bornIt's Wolfram she's talking to.
>>280099884>instantly take her word for itwew
>>280099972it's more of a fairy story feel than biblical, really
>>280105907>it's more of a fairy story feel than biblical, reallywhat's the difference
>>280099972Thanks OP.
Never dealt with the devil, but we had a gateway to hell here for a while and the place was maggoty with demons. Paving over it did the trick.
Next chapter Wolfram will be cornered, but he'll just grin smugly as he activates his devil power
>>280106096Too many for a single post.
Unless this is more of a 'le religion is a fairy tale' gotcha
>>280106204you mean his devil trigger
>>280099972very cool, nothing like an old folktale
Thanks, OP
>>280100174Eh? The tรผffelsbrucken / teiffels brucken / devil bridge has a legend associated with peeps sacrificing an animal to the devil, though.
>>280106235Now I have to listen to the song.
>>280099972>Made any deals with the Devil anon?You could make one right now.
>>280099615Wolfram doesn't look as smug as usual here.
>>280099937Well, at least he's fair.
>>280099972Thx mate.
I love storytelling when historical recollection blends with mythos writing. It's a great writing choice.
>Only now it hits me how bullshit it was for 4 people to take over a fort on their own.
Felt like I was reading Ravages again.
>>280117364Tbf this fort's layout was minmaxed for use as a ranged platform, once someone got in there's not much they can do. The main castle will have a far better layout to accommodate melee and will be so, so much costlier to take, you'll see
so, any austrian anons reading this? what do you think of your cuntry's potrayal?
>>280118522I think it's funny how the whole plan relied on just 4 people storming the fort and taking it when a mistake alone caused two of them to die. If their attack failed then their whole rebellion would have been stopped then and there. That was too risky of a gamble.
>SpoilerOh, I don't doubt you. We're not even halfway through so the story won't end yet. What I wonder though is how Wolfram is going to be inserted in this rebellion escalation.
It's funny how my town has a similar folk tale:
People were building a church, the devil took notice and warned a construction worker that he would not let them finish doing so. Said construction worker decides to make a pact with him: The construction will proceed undisturbed, but only if the first one to enter the church will be damned to hell. When the church is complete, they decide to have a goat enter the church first. The devil is then so infuriated to have been tricked that he climbs up the church and tries to rip off the roof, but the church was so well-built that the roof, while having been twisted into a spiral shape, still stood firmly in its place.
Truth be told, the roof just wasn't built right, but the tale was made up to put a positive spin to its messed-up shape.
Thanks for reading everyone
>>280117364They have advanced peasant martial arts and highly honed farming tools. While you were out riding horses and feasting, we were training our bodies toiling in the fields. Swerve, nobleman.
>>280119072Poor goat suffering for eternity
>>280120005>Gets outplayed by Herr WolframShould have spent more time grinding through the monastery's books!
>>280119072Thatโs a very cool story.
>>280120005few things are as satisfying as seeing peasants bashing noblemen with farming tools
>>280119499Good evening, OP.
>>280122312The peasants should be grateful the kind Lords are allowing them to use their land.
>>280123855>their landcan you even till
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>>280129441https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0vqgdSsfqPs
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>>280129534Wolfram the wizard strikes again
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>>280129644Reading Joe Abercrombie's novels made me love ladder battles
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>>280129674>>280129689>didn't warn the guys under him and only saved the woman who offers to fuck What a dick
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>>280099915Devil asked for a person but maybe that was a mistranslation
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I don't think these guys are serving alcohol...
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>>280129976I love it when translators aren't aware of the english word they're translating to and we get stuff like this
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https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Armorial_des_Habsbourg
A bit later, it was still red white red then
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And that's it for today
Leopold was a really good bro in real life as well
How's your relationship with your brother anon?
I don't have one
Thank you for reading
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>>280099599 (OP)
>>280130438Thanks OP
I have three, I'd say I'm closer with two of them over the other, but I enjoy all their company
>>280130438Thanks OP.
I don't have a brother either.
>>280130311this faggot thinks hes link
>>280129849>>Wile E. Coyote bgm
>look, all I want to do is to kill a Habsburgian, is that so much to ask for?
t. the duke of Bavaria
>>280129371Oh shit, a unicorn.
>>280129469Important sidenote here https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Torsion_mangonel_myth
It should've been a small traction trebuchet
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wfzFnLOpZYM
>>280129481Meanwhile a "fire!" command is entirely out of blackpowder, coming about from, well, committing a fire to powder; it would've been "loose" during this era
>>280129976and probably these as springalds, but I'm not sure; this is a rabbit hole without anything confirmed at the bottom
>>280130181our hero
>>280130296dude could've gotten a ransom worth 2 St. Gotthard Pass castles out of him
>>280130438thanks, OP. We're really great, even though we don't talk much. Any family opportunity is always a fun time
>>280129689Jesus, what was in there?
I'm starting to believe Wolfram really does have demon magic with that bullshit he pulled with those ballistae
>>280130438This siege isn't off to a good start.
Pretty good
Thanks OP
>>280129534Hey, a buck is a buck. And both sides are offering.
>>280129547Relateable. Budget cuts are a hassle to deal with.
>>280129608The way the artist draws Walter is so feminine.
>>280129659>Dat grabTraining from getting DP'd.
>>280136651Were we told how old he's meant to be?
>>280130007Oh man, I wanted them to blow someone.
>>280130117>Getting too cockyHe doesn't know his jobber hexes.
>>280130296Based. Give no mercy to those that won't give it.
>>280130397My king is redpilled!
>>280130422Lil bro is jelly.
>>280130438Thx mate. Guess it's a race against time for the rebels
>How's your relationship with your brother anon?I wish we talked more often when he was here. He's working in another country now, doing well for himself. We don't talk that often but I try to make it count.
>>280130078He's going to grow a mustache to twirl soon.
>>280130438Thank you for posting.
>>280137143He wasnโt actually. He supported his brother unconditionally the entire time.
>>280129976>BaristasIt's blending time
Thanks for reading everyone
>>280099599 (OP)Is this shonen slop, I want to read something
>>280145595Good afternoon, OP. How is the weather?
>>280129809>>280129833>yfw you will never be Hilde's small spoon while you both are freefalling into the moat from a Habsburg castle wallIt's just not fair, bros
>>280130438>kewl0210huh
he sure leveled up over the years
>>280130181Just like the Hussars 300 years later.
>>280130260>>280130275This is the kind of stuff I'm reading this manga for. I feel like I got baited by the volume 1 cover.
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>>280157876Wouldn't be a chapter without ryona
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>>280157622Is he saying "ara ara" in the last panel?
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>>280157989Now realising that Walter has the same exposed eye as Wolfram
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>>2801577604000 YEARS OF AERIAL SUPERIORITY!!!
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>>280158084>There was no one near the drawbridge wheelSuch a massive oversight, Wolfram. Don't you think?
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>>280158276>Literally stutteringHoly fuck!
No wonder Wolfram kills them for the smallest mistakes. These guys are useless
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https://scholarworks.harding.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1218&context=tenor
About a decade before the first evidence of use in Europe, so actually not unbelievable at all
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swiss_Guard
https://www.vatican.va/content/romancuria/en/guardia-svizzera-pontificia/corpo-della-guardia-svizzera-pontificia/profilo.html
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/War_of_the_League_of_Cognac
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sack_of_Rome_(1527)
Ich glaub, de Wolfrahm hett jetzte es problem.
>>280158533Surely an explosion like that isn't strong enough to cause damage like that to iron, right?
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>>280158551SEKAI ICHI engineering from Germany saves the day once again.
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https://schweizergarde.ch/paepstliche-schweizergarde/en/about-us/uniforms/
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jules_Repond
It's actually true, though they are based on the fashion of the time
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And that's it for today
Could this finally be the end?
Afraid of heights anon? You wouldn't have any issues riding a kite right?
Y-yeah sure...
Thank you for reading
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>>280158723Thanks OP
They fuck me up a little, but in a way I like
>>280158723Thanks OP.
I'm looking forward to Wolfram's inevitable(?) end, but surely he'll pull some devilry out of his ass first.
>>280158586You can see Wolfram's cock and balls shrinking in fear.
>>280157637a rather shitty situation to end up in
>>280158723Thank you for posting.
>>280157646>another climber lost to nutty putty cave>>280158232/ourgรผgler/
>>280158453important shot
>>280158475https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murder_hole
>>280158551handgonne are so fun; i've fired them and they're just fun little poppers
https://imgur.com/gallery/handgonne-e84zUvb
>>280158686https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i9BupglHdtM
>>280158723thanks, OP. I'd be more okay with a parachute than any sort of kite
>>280129493COME ON BABY LIGHT MY
FAYAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH
>>280136705lmao fuck you sandro
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>>280129849Enjoying your job is important
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>>280130145you ever have on of those days?
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>>280130225Or one of these days?
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>>280157637hey, there was a junji ito story like this
>>280157922I was just thinking about the shocking lack of ryona
>>280158723Maybe they do have a chance
I'm not exactly comfortable with them.
Thanks OP
>>280158188goat herders are just built different
>>280164468SWERVE, NOBLEMAN
>>280158520>>280158551This is terribly inefficient
>>280158586That's a nice face on him.
>>280158723There's worse ways to go than plunging to a certain death.
>>280158178Massive back, tiny legs.
>>280168392You might not like it, but...
>>280164762All for God and the Eternal Alliance. Death to the Habsburg.
>>280158453>ryona(male)i dunno what to feel about this, i feel like these shots could be hot if the subject was a girl
>>280158520>>280158533>>280158551https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DWcTNomX5Ic
>>280171787>ryona(male)No such thing.
Thanks for reading everyone
>>280158877Oh there will be some devilry with his ass alright
>>280158686Neat, I saw these guards on a trip to the Vatican and wondered what their history was
>>280164143IT'S SPHERICAL!!!
>>280174284Good afternoon, OP.
>>280157659>>280157673wolfram looks oddly cute in these pages
>>280176233Because he's actually tiny.
>>280164762Victory is everything.
>>280130020>>280130046The Wolf does it again! What a tactical genius! The dude is a walking deus ex machina ffs.
>>280130356Sick. Trebuchets are my favorite medieval siege weapon.
>>280158551>>280158605>the inn mistress's pussy was so good it singlehandedly carries the rebellion from the grave
>>280158036that bisected guy would have been fine if he waited one more second...
>>280158723>>280166556Yeah, like getting executed by the Garrote method. Man, ten more minutes and Kurt would have made it.
>>280181482you just don't get it man, he NEEDS to be among the first ones to breach the gate
>>280181911Sometimes 10 minutes is like a lifetime.
>>280181482Reminds me of stories of starving people in a siege choking to death after finally receiving food because they couldn't stop themselves from scarfing it down haphazardly.
>>280099599 (OP)that chick got some big anime tiddies
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Chapter 15
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>>280185974Hello OP
Congratulations
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>>280185996https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WmM-KTcG3QY
Hope you have a nice day
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My favorite chapter. Berthold is literally me when I play Chivalry 2 pub games.
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>>280186193>suicide corps Hell of a name
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>>280186272These people are even more insane than Wolfram
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>>280186388Takes a lunatic to beat a lunatic
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>>280186566I enjoy the trope of a non-sword wielding fighter showing up and fucking all the swordsmen up
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>>280186678I almost have to admire the guy at this point
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>>280186851He did a lot of bad shit, but he was a good knight
RIP
>>280186831So ends a true hero...
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>>280186947>smug man smugly plotting despite the situation growing way beyond his control
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>>280187003>sweating Get fucked
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>>280187026Surely there were better choices for this than one of the main leaders of their army
Lead by example and all that, sure, but come on
>>280187044>>280187062Was it really necessary for the commander to personally fire the suicide cannon?
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>>280186566Shoutouts to the Flanged mace
My favorite medieval weapon
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>>280187171Oh fuck, the peasants have ogres now!
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>>280187159Bro still thinks he's in charge
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And that's it for today
These guys prepared for everything
Ask something if you can think of it
Thank you for reading
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>>280187076>Head in!More like 'head off'!
>>280187232Thanks OP
Would you blow yourself up for your country?
>>280187003>sweating AND eyebagsThatโs some tremendous progress
>>280187249No, much too gruesome. I'd rather be part of the corpse ramp.
Wolframbros... Did we get too cocky? Surely he has some final devilish trick up his sleeve, right?
>>280187144How strong is Wolfram?
Even if he got him by surprise that's still a soldier, it'd take more than a one handed shove
>>280099599 (OP)>WolfsmundHahahah no fucking thank you. And to everyone else in this thread you should leave too.
>>280187302Wolfram will torture himself before they arrive, stealing all the satisfaction for himself.
>>280187232If yo had half the tactical knowledge possessed during this time, how would you have fended off this invasion long enough for the prince to arrive?
>>280187232Thanks OP, that was cathartic.
>>280187898I would've just fought harder
>>280106223Nta, but I also have this question. Aren't they functionally the same? Some way old tale meant to explain/prophesize something or have some kind of moral.
>>280186587for me I love when a knight is actually threatening and not just a jobber
>>280099599 (OP)This read like a first chapter and got me interested. But its the 12th. What do I do now?
>>280187480it's the power of a manlet's rage
>>280186851F
I have nothing but respect for this guy, he was incredibly loyal and competent.
>>280187898>the inn mistress fucks and sucks the bomb merchant>Wolfram executes the inn mistress>bomb merchant finds out>now the rebels have nukesThis battle was lost before it even started.
>>280188381We still have 20+ chapters of non stop medieval war. And while I'm glad this manga didn't turn into a lame monster of the week edge fest, it's weird how quickly it throws away its premise.
Letting Berthold be outnumbered and trapped with the confederate rebels was the greatest blunder of Wolfram. If that knight had been able to retreat and recuperate, the rebels would have lost many more people at other strategic chokepoints.
However, Wolfram sacrificed him, and lost his most competent warrior, and it's all Wolfram's own fault.
Sweet sweet vengeance.
>>280176233Wolfram is always cute.
>>280186423seems like it would be very slippery
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>>280186566splitting headache
>>280187232We had a good run, wolfbros
>>280188281fairy tales at their core are supposed to teach and entertain
biblical stories are supposed to be a revelation of a higher truth
i guess
>>280186272https://youtu.be/U_LqmAU9DjQ&t=828
for a remote outpost in the alps, they sure have a lot of greek fire
>>280186818out like a fucking champ
>>280187076lol
>>280187232thanks, OP
>>280187898Given their lack of cavalry, the greater numbers of the enemy forces, and the peasantry's gunpowder, there's not much that can be taken advantage of. Trying to hold captives for ransom might've done something, but it's clear that Wolfram's not the kind to do that--nor the Swiss to believe any kind of deal could be obtained.
The only mistakes so far have been leaving the gatehouses unguarded and abandoning Berthold in the courtyard: he could've held a more enclosed position for a day on his own
>>280190643Slippery is better than a pit
>>280186831you get what you fucking deserve you cleftlip hapsburg dog
>>280186906kurt is the real mvp of this siege
>>280186587i don't think his choice of weapon matters when he's just that much stronger. fucking hell i think he can just fight with his fist and the sheer momentum behind those armored gloves will still be enough to crack open someone's skull
>>280187144Looks like his helmet didn't help
>>280187232Amazing. Fucking madmen.
Thanks OP
>>280186120>SweatingWolframbros?
>>280186506>You see, Hapsburgs have a preset kill limit. Knowing their weakness, I sent wave after wave of my own men at them, until they reached their limit and shutdown.
>>280186831>>280186851>Took all of that to take him downTrue knight.
>>280187144Wolfram's expressions are his health bar.
>>280187186It genuinely baffles how incompetent these guys are. How the hell did the Hasburgs even became kings!?
>>280187127So why not use a bow?
>>280193733compromise candidate to end the Great Interregnum after the death of the Hohenstaufens
it would be a temporary position, but it gave them enough time to consolidate power in austria and styria
then their grand imperial mission just was they had
>eastern mines to bribe electors>marriages into power families>successful inheritances through these marriages>the self-sufficiency of Hungary rather than needing to cross the kreis for every military/tax levy>a consistent use of the Imperial machines, like the Diet and Imperial Circles, to allow for representation and negotiation
>>280187159Imagine if the rebels had let the guards from the other forts surrender, and these ones knowing it was safe to give up all just turned on him
>>280186714HOLY SHIT KURT
>>280187113There's no way Tell will wet his dick with this bitch. She will die before the siege's end.
>>280194874Because they are inside a fortress. Crossbows are better for CQC.
>>280187171>>280187203That's the dude who fucked the inn mistress six times. Fucking CHAD.
>>280187898Not really much that can be done now. Should've guarded the gatehouses better.
Before this blunder they could've kept pouring molten lead inside the place where people were trapped in the north gate and tried to destroy the south bridge itself instead but I don't think they have big rocks to do that.
Surely they could just use the hand cannons as bombs with lit fuses instead of suicide weapons, the bullet isn't even important
Guns would never have developed further at this rate
>>280197950Problem is, the merchant only had those faulty hand cannons, not bombs, and the rebels needed to deal with the fortress quickly enough before habsburgian reinforcements would arrive.
Wolfman has made so many people mad that they are willing to kill themselves just to see that motherfucker dead. That's a good villain.
>>280186472>>280186486>>280186506Waves of unflinching enemies advancing towards you must be so psychologically intimidating before fortified machine gun first sat on the battlefield
>>280198535Especially because they won't take prisoners, and they really really want to capture the magistrate.
>>280187898Without a detailed layout of the fortifications and table of organization and equipment for the garrison, I can't say anything with exactness, beyond what the others have already pointed out.
In any case, getting sandwiched by extremely motivated (suicidal) fanatics has never done any defending force favors.
I thirst for habsburgian blood!!!
>>280129689>tossing out mild chili Fucking monsters
>>280158657Cheap iron is cheap
>>280158623They look hungry
>>280199839Nah, I don't think Wolfram would cheapen out on the budget like that. This is the guy who carved the mountain just in case he had to topple it on potential rebels in the future.
>>280189510but he need time to run between his tail
>>280200675And that's where the budget went
>>280200675>This is the guy who carved the mountain just in case he had to topple it on potential rebels in the future.didn't he only identified weak rocks in the mountain so he can shoot them later? he didn't do shit
Do not lose hope, Wolframchads!
I'm sure the devil will come with a last minute clutch to save his boy!
I believe Wolfram will win.