The eternal debate...lingerie or swimsuits?

>>280107949 (OP)
...Does simple underwear like on the right even counts as lingerie? I always picture it as SEX underwear. The ones on your picrel look too boring, OP

>>280107949 (OP)
Is there really a difference?

I don't get the female logic of "it's not embarrassing to be seen wearing this piece of fabric even though it provides no more coverage than that other piece of fabric"

Both.

But gun to the head, swimsuits.

>>280108111
Probably because you're an autismo and don't realize one involves pre-preparation

>>280108111
Because bikinis are normalized as outerwear in an appropriate context while underwear is still taboo and private at all times

But nude swimming for both sexes at all ages should become the norm again

>>280108084
Yes, not only the context which was already explained but even the design and material (fabric?) can be different between the two.

>>280107949 (OP)
Competitive swimsuit. It's all about that shoulder+lower back gap.
Lingerie with stockings is nice too, though. Can't usually have those on a swimsuit.

>>280108111
>female logic
Notice that men don't just wear underwear to the beach or pool.

Bandaids

>>280108520
there's an entire cultural meme about the burden of men having to put pants on

>>280108221
>bikinis are normalized as outerwear in an appropriate context while underwear is still taboo and private at all times
Reminds me when the MC in make my abilities average conviced her friends to wear bikinis just to get called peverts by passersby

>>280108039
Lingerie is female underwear in general especially in the context of teenagers and adults. I don't deny that the designs in the image look too simple but some anime series deliver in that aspect.

>>280108039
Fun fact, the underwear of some characters looks different in the trailer of that OVA, here's a comparison, Left is the trailer (inevitalbe logo) and right is the final product. Hibari's bra appears to have two straps in one side but in a way, I think their underwear looks better in the trailer.

>>280109459
Why making such changes anyway? Seems something very minor people would barely notice.

>>280107949 (OP)
Lingerie, duh

>>280109777
Budget is the only explanation that comes to mind.

>>280108458
This. They are it for the hips and waist and general sensual bodyline.

Blessed Amagami fanart

>>280107949 (OP)
remove all of them

For me it's braless tangtop panties

>>280108221
Nude -mixed- swimming for both sexes at all ages

>>280108111
Underwear is normally not meant for people to look at, but swim wear is. It's simple as that. It's not about how much skin is being shown. I mean shit wearing a bathrobe in the public is probably just as inappropriate, despite the coverage.

Why not both?

>>280112319
Sure.

>>280108111
Wasted trips. It's not rocket science.

>>280111748
Indeed.

>>280110533
It's not the point of this thread but here you go.

>>280107949 (OP)
I love bras so much it's unreal

>>280107949 (OP)
Swimsuits; lingerie is too slutty, and I associate it with whores. The more sexually enticing a piece of clothing is intended to be, the less sexy it actually is. School swimsuits are the best because they minimize intended sexiness and maximize actual sexiness.

>>280113770
>School swimsuits are the best because they minimize intended sexiness and maximize actual sexiness.
Even these?

>>280108111
Swimsuits are thicker and more resistant
When you remove your underwear it will smell like you but a swimsuit will smell to pool
Underwear is weak to water and sexy ones have very thin/transparent parts
And just as how you can tell a fancy modern chair is still a chair you can tell when it is a swimsuit or underwear, the design is different

>>280113847
such a sadness what is happening there
can we have one society that isn't prudish and celebrates beauty.

>3DPD
>beauty

>>280113847
I hate it so much.

lingerie is pretty rare in actual anime now that I think about it

>>280108111
Why do people not like when they get caught in the rain, but they’re perfectly fine with taking a shower?

>>280115192
Are you literally a pedo? What does it matter how schoolkids in real life dress?

>>280107949 (OP)
What's the difference?

>>280107949 (OP)
I want to start playing Senran. What is a good entry point?

>>280113847
stop reminding me of this timeline

>>280107949 (OP)

>>280118128
Play Estival Versus it’s the culmination and the best of the previous titles but if you are super autismo and want to play in order start with Burst then Deep Crimson on 3DS. They also remade Burst on PC.

>>280117982
Yes, and what you make kids wear affects the development of normal gender identity and body image. Making them wear weird genderless ultra concealing outfit for swimming communicates that they should hide their shameful bodies and shameful gender.
By the way, the fact that I find school girls in swimsuits hot doesn't mean that the swimsuit itself is hot. Objectively a school swimsuit is completely neutral and functional garment and less revealing than your usual bikini. If some adults sexualizing kids in this normal garment is problematic, maybe you should address that problem, call them weirdos and hide the fetish media from children.
Changing the swimsuits actually affirms the notion that kids are just too sexy for a neutral swimsuit and need to be nerfed. What is a kid's mom gonna tell her when she asks why her school doesn't use normal swimsuits like her onee chan. It just opens a can of problems. They should have ignored it.

>>280107949 (OP)
Swimsuits > Underwear

>>280108111
There are some girls in the gym that practically just go in underwear.

>>280118128
Ignore games, watch S1 and OVA, they're better

>>280107949 (OP)
I always prefer bra and panties.

>>280118128
Play Burst or its remake. Estival has awful gameplay and the story will be boring if you don’t already care about the cast. The Burst Remake is an asset flip of Estival that fixes the gameplay. If you like that, do Shinovi Versus next.
And the anime adaptation is an awful generic ecchi show that doesn’t stick to the plot and makes up retarded shit.

>>280119114
>And the anime adaptation is an awful generic ecchi show that doesn’t stick to the plot and makes up retarded shit.
Does it at least have good ecchi?

>>280107949 (OP)
What's the difference?

>>280119134
Not really. It’s very standard.

>>280119114
I may have misremembered Estival and Shinovi but the 3DS games were great.

>>280119157
The 3DS games, Shinovi, and the Burst remake are basically the good ones. Estival is good for its fanservice, both in the ecchi department and for the character interactions. But it is awful as an action game. There’s a big delay on your actions that makes medium and heavy characters torture to play as. You can’t just cancel animations like the other games.

>>280113847
now give the girl some F-cups she's trying really hard to hide but can't and yeah even those

>>280107949 (OP)
Swimsuit. But striped panties>all

>>280109459
>Hibari's bra appears to have two straps in one side
That's a coloration error.

>>280119522
Striped bikini exists too

>>280119859
Striped panties are still better. The greatest of bikinis are white bikinis.

American flag micro bikinis are the best that it's not even a competition

>>280108111
>female
>logic
That's why.

>>280119980
>greatest of bikinis are white bikinis.
*black

>>280107949 (OP)
I only care that the bottom stays on

>>280120732
We cannot exist in the same world.

>>280107949 (OP)
>>280109459
>>280113228
Yagyuu sex

Racing one-piece swimsuits

>>280117982
>pedo
I hate summer so much. Kill yourself.

>>280118054
>>280119138
It was already explained, not only the fabric of swimsuit can look different compared to underwear/lingerie (one can usually tell between the two both in fiction and real life) there is also the difference in context, swimsuits are more appropriate for a public place like a beach or pool while underwear is something private or not meant to be seen.

>>280121078
Not Hibari too?

>>280113770
>The more sexually enticing a piece of clothing is intended to be, the less sexy it actually is.
This is an interesting opinion. Maybe not everyone will agree but I guess.you would say that Asuka's white underwear in the OVA is sexier that the underwear that Haruka wears for example, Asuka often wears white underwear in official media while Haruka in the OVA wears something fancier and ''sexier'' but I guess some people would say ''there is beauty in simplicity, a pice of clothing meant to be sexy is less sexy than something that isn't meant to be considered as such''.

>>280123276

Hibari is kinda dumb.

>>280123950
That's kinda true but...she's not a bad character (in my opinion) and she's also a girl with big boobs.

>>280124340

She's okay in a "friend you have to constantly supervise" kinda way.

>>280107949 (OP)
Lingerie for the bottom, swimsuit for the top.

>>280108111
Swimsuits have thicker fabric. The nipples are covered.

>>280124392
I guess. She's a girl who loves sweets after all and she's the girl who goes to Hebijo alone in the first game and anime. Not extremely stupid or anything, she's not Patrick Star or Ed but she's still a character who may do something reckless and may need some kind of supervision.

>>280120110
True, but no one goes to a beach in lingerie outside of a photoshoot or porno. It's not that deep.

>>280124666

Like a retarded puppy.

>>280124774
Yeah.

>>280117767
I wouldn't mind getting rained if I were naked already.

>>280107949 (OP)
naked with thighighs+boots.

>>280107949 (OP)
Hibari's big butt rubbing on my dick

>>280124463
Interesting...I may have an idea why you have this opinion.

>>280108520
there's any number of countries where men wear speedos rather than swim trunks and those are basically the same thing as underwear

>>280125258
Everyone should strip naked and go out into a hard pouring rain at least once in their life.

>>280125588

>>280127103
Man, Artland did a great job with the Senran Kagura anime. A damn shame the company's gone

>>280127103
Ruining Hibari's spats with semen after she's thoroughly hotdogged my dick

>>280127201
I've not heard of the company or animation studio that made Senran Kagura: Ninja Flash! going bankrupt, if the company involved really is gone...too bad...

>>280127718
Spats? Those are red bloomers or shorts.

>>280128413
I frequently mix up the names in my head because I am retarded
>Ruining Hibari's bloomers with semen after she's thoroughly hotdogged my dick

>>280119522
>>280119980
We never see Neptune's panties in the Neptunia anime (only in one or two of the OVAs that were released several years later) but here you go.

>>280129268
Not as cute as Asuka's rainbow bikini.

>>280129545
In your opinion, sure. Still, I don't think it's the best comparison, it's a rainbow bikini, not striped panties.

Does anyone have the clip of the Senrans at a water park and Ryouna is wearing a slingshot bikini and making lewd poses only to learn that they're alone and just goes swimming naked?

>>280129757
I don't have said clip at least.

Swimsuit

One piece

High leg cut

>>280130357
Those swimsuits, right.

swimsuit is more exciting because it's meant to be seen by other people

>>280131081
I can understand that.

>>280118128
Yeah, I agree that the Nintendo 3DS games are great, if you can, play those.

>>280107949 (OP)
I feel like lingerie goes better with assertive girls and swimsuits with more submissive ones. But it can depend.

>>280108111
boobs don't have holes kek

>>280134462
I thought that the thread was going to die but okay.

>>280135508

Hottie Homu

>>280107949 (OP)
There is no debate. Lingerie with swimsuit styling (aka string sides instead of thick bands).

>>280135832
Huh, I remember seeing an instance of the opposite, a swimsuit with lingerie styling. It's a bikini but it kind of looks like lingerie, yeah.

>>280129757
No one?

>>280108111
Human behaviors dont follow logic. They follow conventions.

>>280136615
Apparently. No one around here.

>>280129757
I found it

>>280137609
Thank you anon! I was going to post it earlier only to realize I didn't have it.

I'm a real sucker for garter belts and nice stockings but flatties in micro bikinis are equally nice to me.

>>280137609
Wow...better late than never.

>>280137609
>I'll just swim naked
God I love exhibitionists

>>280107949 (OP)
I like plain white underwear best

>>280137609
Ryona is so perfect

>>280138916
So, what Asuka usually wears.

>>280138862
Considering that we are talking about Ryona, she would enjoy if other people saw her naked.

>>280138916
This comment is approved by Miyu Edelfelt...I'm kidding.

>>280140060
That's the point of exhibitionism..

>>280139588
But that's wrong? She usually wears rainbow striped underwear. That white stuff is OVA oddity.