We can't all be as lucky.
>>280108455Machu's so hot. I don't understand people who sexualize Deux. She's for headpats.
>>280108306 (OP)Just how much stuff was down there?
>>280108455>>280108489Deux is for floofing headpats
Homosexual intercourse with Challia.
>>280108490Too much. That's why our oceans are so polluted.
>Official height finally out
You are taller than Nyaan right?
>>280108489>sexualizeRetardspeak. She's a female with a cunt. Made for fucking.
>>280108601Is there a reason why Nyaan's height was listed as (IIRC) either "hidden" or "unknown" while the series was airing?
>>280108306 (OP)Shit thread, faggot.
Comoli appeared in every episode but was more forgotten than Shiiko and Deux. Think about that
>>280109024Because she didn't do anything notable. Had she been an ace newtype pilot relegated to being the aid of Bull that would have been one thing. Be she wasn't.
Did GQuuuuuuX get you to watch 0079?
Every girl in the entire Gundam franchise but especially Machu is for spanking
>>280109101Made me watch till CCA. I started to hate Gqux after watching the older series
>>280109024How did Comoli even get into the running sequence in the OP?
>>280109101I've already seen it but I have friends who watched it and now want to watch the full 079-CCA saga. THe formula they crafted for Quuuuux to get people into UC seemed to work.
>>280109194Sheโs based on Tsurumakiโs wife
>>280108601>172cmGiant bitch. I'm about her height but I'd kick her ass, I weigh 49kg.
>>280109161>I started to hate Gqux after watching the older seriesWhy?
>>280109000Char would have taken her out of the game years ago if he just gave her the beautiful blonde babies she wanted..
Less than 35 hours until the last one. I only want a second compilation movie
>>280108455Now post Shinji
>>280109364Made me realize how Gqux is just all about references, and everything the past series had was missing in Gqux, and ironically Gqux was mostly about the events of the older series, full of references about the older series, and most of the characters are from the older series. There were also the characters that made me feel attached to them, like your picrel, and wanted to see how they'll grow. There were also some characters that I felt very annoyed with, but it just showed that they're proper characters and don't exist to simply die or a storyfodder.
Gqux did not feel like Gundam at all. I'm bad at explaining.
>>280108554Machu before she underwent change and got her new panties
Doesn't look good for Sayla in her ending. The trio ruined her.
>>280109563Sayla had no reason to lead Zeon. Char also had no reason to go to the path of CCA leadership. It's all a mess
>>280109364>Missed out on Kai and Machu shenanigansShame. Kai strikes me that he really wouldn't be much different in a Zeon winning timeline.
>>280108601At 193cm, I'm pretty sure I'm taller than most of the manlet and femlet characters that comprise the collective Gundam cast.
>>280109645Kai would have most likely already fled the battlefield. Only reason he stayed early on was white base
>>280109492GQuuuuuux has more of the feel of an OVA which are often designed to have a different feel. I think the story was too big for its britches and should have lowered the scope of the universe ending to a more manageable story. You can have a good coming of age story without the universe being threatened. The setting ended up being more interesting than the show.
I know what you mean about characters, I hated Katz in Zeta. His entire character arc was something and it feels like he was Kamille that never dropped his childish mentality to juxtapose how much Kamille changed.
>char dead
>amuro doesn't exist
>most of zabi are still alive (rip garma)
>feddie and zeon keep beating each other ass
>titans are still alive
oh shit rose universe is so fucked up....
reminder that gqx kai married gqx miharu
>be Shuji
>refuses to murderhobo, won't kill without a damn good reason
>won't use his beam weapons inside the colony to avoid collateral damage, literally handicaps himself to protect civvies
>has to kill a witch who's actively trying to kill him, and you can tell he fucking hates doing it, gives his enemy closure and peace of mind before he finishes her
>knows this entire world is a dream and that he's the one who has to pull the plug eventually
>shouldering the fate of two worlds, all by himself
>stuck in endless time loops, completely alone
>not a single soul understands his struggle
>and through all this, his mind ISN'T COMPLETELY FUCKING SHATTERED
What the FUCK is this guy made of? Absolute GigaChad with diamond-plated mental fortitude. How is he not the most popular MC ever?
>>280109927He is definitely stronger than Kamille. That little bitch got mindbroken so easily
>>280109420i want a sequel
Quattro giys. Why's he so hot? Why do I want kamille to smack him around like an Italian wife. How do you give a guy some tights and sleeveless top and I'm ready to fuck him over.
Also definitely homosexual sex with chalia
Why is Sayla still single?
>>280109734I agree that Quacks bit off a bit more than it could chew with it's episode count but I didn't mind the parallel timeline angle. Reminded me a lot of Gridman though that did it more tightly.
>Ending didn't have Machu meet irl Tomino.
>>280109686He would have been a PoW instead of a child soldier and wouldn't have ended up as a journalist after the oyw either
>>280108554She is very cute
How would you rate Evil Shuuji against other Gundam villains in terms of sexiness?
>>280109927Once Shuuji went all out with his Newtype powers, it felt like Shiiko didn't stand a chance. His decision to kill her didn't feel necessary on his part, but a sign that his first mental option is to kill his opponent as a result of how he's been killing Lalah over and over. It gave him a shady and dangerous air, but unfortunately Episodes 5, 6, and 7 didn't elaborate on that at all before he teleported away then returned at the end of Episode 11 with that suddenly cranked up to 100%.
Speaking of Episode 11, why did Shuuji guide Machu to the theatre? If Kycilia shot Char, Lalah would probably end that universe right away, and it wouldn't be a new trauma that could harm his universe. Shuuji forced himself into a scenario where he'd have to kill Lalah, and he did it for no apparent reason.
>>280110537I wanted a whole episode dedicated to Machu and Comolin desu
>>280110711Machu is definitely the man in the relationship. I can see Shuuji being a complete simp for his wife
So in this universe both char and lahlah are alive?
>>280110880So who killed Garma?
>>280110905No one
Garma is so inoffensive both Char and Challia forgot he's a Zabi in their respective quests
>>280111024Oh so it's possible that he's alive then.
Just finished it. The ending was insane, it was a chaotic fever dream. Probably one of the best TV anime I have seen.
>>280111271This is exactly how I feel about it as well
>>280111333>>280109000Hell man we had 555, 666, and 777 last thread now we get 000, 111, and 333 in this one. Are we on a roll?
Shuji is currently homeless back in his native universe.
>>280111535>Duex if she got more fuel in the tank and a few more miles on the road
>>280111610oops did not mean to respond.
2/2
If newtypes can understand each other, then why are there still wars?
I'm going to talk about the concept of a Nyaan wife. Today is a little naughty, so watch your back.
Nyaan made peace with Machu and Shuuji. She also bonded with Exabe. Machu brought Shuuji back.
Nyaan Olive was honorably discharged and obtained citizenship of the Principality of Zeon. He now lives in a public housing complex in Zeon. Shuma and his wife live next door.
There were large windows that let in a lot of light. The room was 4 bedrooms, 2 bedrooms, 1 bedroom, 1 dining room, and 1 kitchen. The bathroom and toilet were separate. It was more than enough for a home for love.
Since Nyaan and Exabe are husband and wife, they share the same bed.
However, since Nyaan is pregnant, Exabe-kun won't lay hands on her, that's all.
It's a platonic, platonic relationship.
Well, it would be a lie to say that we don't do anything naughty, but we do do things like petting. We are a married couple.
It is only natural that they have business.
However, Nyaan can't hide her frustration.
>>280111758"Are you sure this is okay?"
After the non-sexual petting, I climaxed, but I questioned Exabe-kun.
"Well, you're pregnant, you know? I think it's best to leave it at that."
This is Exabe-kun who is not good at pillow talk at all. This is probably typical of Exabe-kun, as he doesn't seem to read the situation well.
"You're not feeling good, I don't think that's good."
Nyaan repeats. It seems that Nyaan also has something that is not being satisfied.
"This is fine with me. As long as there is life growing in your belly, this is fine."
Exabe-kun says, "You can't see anything in your bedroom at night, but the sunlight coming from the street and the colony makes your eyes look very serious."
"If you give birth properly, then..."
"Um... what?"
Nyaan asks mischievously.
>>280111681Just because you're given the ability to fundamentally understand others, doesn't mean that you'll do it. Lead a horse to water and all. Additionally, some newtypes use connections to manipulate or hurt one another. The deepest cuts come from those who truly get you. The biggest monsters, like Cagati and Gihren, still tend to be oldtypes, however.
>>280111777"I will make love to you properly... I have the ability to do so, and I also have the desire to do so."
Exabe confessed.
"happyโฆ"
Nyaan hugged Exabe-kun.
She has innovated that the day will soon come when it will no longer be platonic.
"After I give birth properly, Nyaan. Then, then, then."
"I knowโฆmhmโฆbaby mhmโฆ"
Nyaan's determination was also evident in her eyes.
After that, the two spent time lovingly stroking each other's bellies.
Oh, and Exabe-kun's Exabe-kun was still hard, so Nyaan took care of him with oral sex.
โฆIs this really platonic? I have doubts.
>>280108791Why isn't Challia trying to drown Char, that's OOC
>>280111777Meanwhile, the couple next door were also having a hot time.
However, Machu's delirious muttering of "I want a baby... I want Shuuji's baby..." is what makes him different from the Egnyaa couple.
"It's too early for us, Machu," says Shuuji.
"That's not true!" Machu retorts, but Nyaan remembers that she didn't have a child because she wanted one, and closes her mouth.
"That's right... and if you leave it to nature's laws, you will meet a baby someday... Machu, that day will come."
"That's right Shuuji...I love you..."
A passionate kiss like the final episode hits Machu and Shuuji.
"I love you too, Machu...Machu...I love you, that's why I'm here now"
Shuuji decided to live in this world because of Machu. Lalah is happy too.
The night for the two of us seems to be burning hot, glowing red.
This is the whole concept of Nyaan wife
Depending on how the next episode of Sieg Axe develops, I think there may still be some things missing, so I'll continue this later.
>>280111681Terra E explains it. Watch it.
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>People proclaim as Machu being the MC with 0 kills
Reminder
GQuuuuuuX or whatever the fuck it's called was the worst series i have ever seen in my life thank you for wasting my life, gundam used to be good
>>280109388Why did they make her lips so kissable?
>>280111681A lot of newtypes are still shitty, even if you understand each other that doesn't mean you accept each other. Haman and Scirocco were newtypes and what did that lead to?
>>280111858Not as bad as F91
>>280111792Reminds me a bit of the Eva manga's ending message about hands (connections).
This is what happens to humans when they leave Mother Earth and try to live in other solar systems, according to Turn A.
Find a flaw in this character.
>a kiss
Wtf I thought people don't kiss in Gundam.
>>280109927>his mind ISN'T COMPLETELY FUCKING SHATTEREDbut the gundam's voice in his head is not real.....
>>280110542My running theory is that the smiling ghost Shuji was his actual subconscious trying to stop himself from killing Lalah again. I also think he's the one sending the texts but that could have also been Amuro.
>>280110246Don't worry anon they'll just keep showing the beginning over and over again. Then, we'll never get any more.
>>280110538scirocco >>>>>>>>>
>>280111138Char was wearing his white suit and pink shirt at the end. Same outfit we see him wearing at that bar watching Gihren give his speech at Garma's funeral. So he probably killed Garma.
>hype is already killed
ded thread.
>>280109927Something about his final plan doesn't add up. Given his genuine kindness to the people around him despite effectively being the Grim Reaper, why does he care about what happens to any one particular person? Either helping Machu find herself or catching Nyaan after she was ejected from the Gqux, he didn't need to do any of that. What compelled him to do anything since he clearly didn't need the Gqux nor the GFred? Shit like this bothers me because there are interesting bones to these relationships but they didn't have any fucking time so every one feels crazy. But not in a fun Tomino kind of crazy.
>>280111333Because quattro is a hell of a sexy fiend. He deserves it for being in that show
Weird how we didn't see a single goog in any major capacity after episode 04.
>>280112206They kiss, but it happens as regularly as it does in a regular Anime. Machu and Shuuji's kiss is the first kiss on TV Gundam since IBO. So a 10-year-old gap
>>280112635I still don't know if Merribit had the hots for Orga or not. Shame he was too autistic for love so she had to look somehwere else to get cock
Queen Sayla and The Good Endโข
Is this the type of brutality you want in modern Gundam?
>>280110542Since Shuji apparently kills Lalah every time to cause the reset, and that he fears that Lalah waking up to the current situation would destroy both his universe and the one in the show, I'm guessing he thought Char dying whilst he wasn't around to kill Lalah would be a terrible outcome. She'd just wake up and have a fucking meltdown again.
>>280112895>>280112908Looking at those lightsabers makes me realize Tomino was heavily inspired by Star Wars and if it didn't exits we wouldn't have Gundam, beam sabers, or masked villains like Char. Every 80s anime was just copycats of whatever was popular in hollywood. DBZ copied Terminator with Trunks. Gunbuster copied Top Gun. Many such cases.
>>280113013>That shit>HotterEven if the show wasn't dyke shit, i still wouldn't touch it.
>>280113013Despite what /u/ tells you, Suletta and Miorine are not lesbian, they're bi. They fall for each other, but they don't have a revulsion to men that most /u/ characters have.
>>280110246Machu ships Shuji and Nyaan.
>>280110732Portable onaholes can't be a man. Their brains turns into mush as soon as you fuck their holes.
>>280113115or just treat suletta and miorine like they're husband and wife.
>>280113382A husband and wife like them who do not kiss, have sex and have children is just sad. But I guess that is what pure love is for /u/turds.
>>280112535I was high when I wrote that and I still agree with what I said you you
Nyaan's roast beef pussy...
>>280113438Now you're making Suletta sad when she literally wants that.
Machu fucks cats and dogs.
>>280113438They're married, anon. Whether you like it or not that's their ending.
>>280109024Deux's got a unique design, character, implied sad backstory, and awesome mobile armor that demands attention. She's the token moe character as well, despite (or maybe because of) how sickly she looks. Shiiko's just very well written, probably the best side character in GQX, had the best battle in GQX, has a standout design as well, and was the first "oh shit" moment in GQX (first on screen death that wasn't a flashback). Comoli never stood a chance.
>>280112476>Machu and Shuji with matching hair tiesCute
>>280113438>A husband and wife like them who do not kiss, have sex and have children is just sad.Guel exist to provide the sperm they need to become pregnant.
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>>280113776>provide the spermwould love to see the another rejection scene like never ends
>>280113807I dont recall a rejection scene in another
Women carry this franchise.
>>280113776>>280113807Either that or Suletta telling her kids that she's a father while Miorine is theis mother would be very funny
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>>280113840Many rejection scenes then including the drama cd, forgot to count.
>>280113908Are we both talking about the anime series another? Because that's what I thought you meant.
>>280113731What if Machu had introduced Shiiko to the hobo like Shiiko wanted? Would Shiiko still have freaked out?
>>280113945I was just talking about anime/drama cd.events, though.
>>280113776>Guel exist to provide the sperm they need to become pregnant.There are not even trying to hide this fact.
>Why wonโt you live with me and Nyaan!?
>Because if I did that, I wouldn't be able to hold myself back
>what?
>...Nothing
>(it would be bad for Nyaan too)
>>280113999Trips confirms.
>>280113731She was such a milf.
>>280114042Can a women get another women pregnant?
>>280114089Suletta literally came from women.
>>280113999>There are not even trying to hide this fact.Because it is not like Guel needs to fuck SuleMio. Giving his sperm for artificial insemination is enough. I'm sure this will be acceptable to yurifags because they are completely aware of this practice in real gay couples.
>>280113980I'm retarded then, cus this is what I thought you meant by "the another rejection scene"
>>280114089>>280114104Suletta is a clone so, makes sense that she and Miorine can have children easily.
>>280114110Ferdinand and Miranda aren't interested, you gay.
>>280113999I'm more concerned about whether the babies will be brown or white if Guel is the father.
>>280114147>Suletta is a clone sopropera's egg+sperm donor's sperm+eris's cells
>>280114178women don't have sperm. anon. Suletta just born that way.
>>280114148That is a sad conversation considering no women want Guel
>>280114147>>280114178Cloning is actually not reproduction. Cloning Suletta or Miorine will never yield an offspring between them but a copy of them. This means SuleMio will never have a child of their own.
>>280114218the correct answer was brown, thanks for playing
>>280112977Except Shuuji can seemingly manifest at any time. Why would he have to stall for time until he manifests just in case Lalah awakens first? Furthermore, why did he Zeknova away and potentially risk not being able to reappear for months?
>>280114258>This means SuleMio will never have a child of their own.Everyone is aware of this, even the SuleMio shippers. Reproduction involves the fusion of gametes (sperm and egg), leading to genetic recombination, whereas cloning produces an organism with the same genetic material as the donor. This is why SuleMio needs Guel's sperm cells to fertilize their egg cells.
>>280114291>Except Shuuji can seemingly manifest at any time.Can he? I'd need to go back and watch the end of ep. 11 again, but from memory he made it sound like he needed the special zeknova that allowed travel from his universe to the GCucks universe to manifest physically and kill Lalah.
>>280111840They were paying a whole different ball game.
>>280114352He was already physically manifested in Episode 1, he was piloting the Red Gundam and making spraypaint murals.
>>280114258>>280114346Do you guys forget that Suletta is a full clone?
>>280114258Reproduction involves genetic recombination, while cloning creates a genetic copy. Simple as. I don't get why people use this to prove two women can have a child.
>>280114440Guelfags are that desperate
>>280114406Right, but they establish that the red zeknovas apparently work as wormholes to the universe Rose Lalah came from, which Shuji disappeared into. So between that point and the green zeknova occurring, he ought to be in his home universe according to the show's own rules.
The actual problem I have with this is that opens up the question of how Char returned to the GCucks universe after the same happened to him, but that's a separate problem with, I suspect, no good answer.
I wonder what this was? It looks like it's high quality.
You know, it's possible that Suletta would suggest to Miorine that she wants a clone baby just to show how much she loves them, the same species as her.
>>280114346>This is why SuleMio needs Guel's sperm cells to fertilize their egg cells.It could have been El4n if he had not died. Why did Tomino choose SuleMio to have a brown donor rather than a white donor?
>>280114489It seems that the Red Gundam can manifest those Zeknovas on their own to some extent, hence why one happened at Side 6 at all. Presumably Shuuji could just use one of those again.
>>280114346>This is why SuleMio needs Guel's sperm cells to fertilize their egg cells.I'm fine with this as long as Guel does not stick his dick inside their vaginas.
>>280114569>It seems that the Red Gundam can manifest those Zeknovas on their own to some extent, hence why one happened at Side 6 at all.In that case Shuji comments just before it happens that "the rose is awakening" or something to that extent, so Lalah's seeminlgy still involved in causing it to some extent. We also have no clue if you can even activate them from his own universe or not.
>>280114440And cloning will never be reproduction. It is completely useless if you want SuleMio to have a child of their own.
>>280114667Why do you think they all reject the guys and never want their sperm in the first place?
>>280114258The purpose of cloning is to make a copy. It was never meant to make a child from two parents.
>>280114667Surely we are talking about futuristic here not the present?
>>280114650Shuuji goes into that Zeknova, so he presumably has some means back, otherwise going back into his dimension at the time could ruin his ability to stop Lalah from experiencing a further traumatic event that could devastate his dimension.
>>280114718>copyExplain BABY Suletta, Eri wasn't even a baby.
Hahaha GQcucks threads are already degraded to trying to incelpost about WFM.
Just drop this farce and let the threads die.
>>280114744Please stop bumping the thread. Thanks!
>>280114744>Just drop this farce and let the threads die.Don't post again in this thread or any gundam threads.
I don't know about the situation in Witch from Mercury but in real life it might become possible to synthesize sperm cells from stem cells so theoretically it could be possible for a woman to be the genetic father of a child.
>>280114735He does, I just think that method is intended to be the zeknova that happens as a result of Lalah beginning to wake up. That's why he feels the need to protect Char, since he's biding his time, and can't just jump in and kill Lalah whenever he wants to.
>ShuChu kira-kira kiss
Kira-kira impregnation soon.
>>280114806It will never happen because of this simple fact. One major hurdle in creating sperm cells from female cells is the lack of a Y chromosome in female cells, which is crucial for sperm maturation.
>>280114901So I guess yaoi wins
>>280114841I always wonder: who's the top and who's the bottom in that relationship?
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I'm surprised people are still talking about sperm cells considering what just happened to the show.
>Machu = Jellyfish
>Nyaan = Cat
>Deux = Dog (or Jellyfish)
What does that make Shuji?
>>280114931>So I guess yaoi winsWe can say that. It is possible to synthesize egg cells (oocytes) from male stem cells, though this has been achieved only in lab mice. These artificially created eggs can be fertilized with sperm and implanted into surrogate mothers to produce offspring. Though they are probably already doing this with humans, but in secret and in a controlled environment, because you may never know what horrific effects it can have on future generations.
>>280114936gut says Shuuji's the top because Machu wants it that way
>>280114931>yaoi winsIt always does. Fuck those females, figuratively and literally.
>>280115040So you've never seen female mices that can make baby?
>>280114901>>280115040For millennia, people thought females are far more valuable and superior than males. Science proved that THEY WERE ALL WRONG!!
Fuck char. It's awful he's this hot as quattro
>>280115130>>280114901>>280115040Remember that the bible said that women came from men? It is not surprising that everything a woman has can be derived from men and the opposite is not possible.
>>280114806>I don't know about the situation in Witch from MercurySuletta was borm as a perfect baby clone that never even used a sperm.
>>280115208>came from ribslooks hideous
>>280115295>looks hideousOnly are first. They were molded into beautiful onaholes later for men's use.
>>280115251>perfect baby cloneSuletta will try that to miorine next if she really loves to see a perfect child.
>>280115351>tag : Shuji's onahole
>>280114901What, sperm cells have only either an X or Y, not both.
>>280108601Are we sure Shuuji is 17 like the girls?
>>280115251>clone that never even used a sperm.Nor does it use whole egg cells. It is Asexual reproduction at most.
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>>280115208Only the Mk-2 woman, the Mk-1 went a bit rouge.
>>280115351Those onaholes needs to learn their place.
>>280115401>AsexualDo you really need to be so rude to the clones?
>>280115019>What does that make Shuji?A stallion/stud who will impregnate all of them.
>>280115430Cloning is cloning. It just makes copies. No combination of any kind from parents.
>>280115066>>280115130Challia's wife is so beautiful.
>>280115458Suletta doesn't even act like her Sister, That's why she's a perfect clone
>No combination of any kind from parents.or you can just say from her original look but different personality?
>>280115521>perfect clone>not a perfect copyLMAO!
>>280115521Have you ever considered that maybe they have their own separate soul despite them being completely genetically identical?
>>280115541>>280115582I see a clone as a person (anime logic) not just they are look alike.
>>280115351Machu a cocksleeve.
>>280115351Shuji needs to impregnate Machu before her eggs expires.
Nyaan was robbed, she deserves a final interactiom with Shuji
The tanuki from Alaska has landed. Tanukiverse will never end!
>>280115438Deux's for cuddling and imouto-ing, not for stuff like that.
>>280115351Shuji's personal property.
>>280111840That's not exactly a fair comparison, Build Fighters is Gundam Valhalla. The only Build protagonist that actually fights in a proper war with the real threat of death is Hiroto.
>>280109734>The setting ended up being more interesting than the show.Many such cases.
>>280113020>copiedMore like 'got inspired by'.
>>280113907Nah, Khara is all for getting addicted to drugs.
>>280115927He didn't claim his property and just left it there, so it's Nyaan's now.
>>280115402>One of the points that 4chanites tend to make about our channel recently is that we cut out too many critical responses. Can't stand the heat, huh?
>>>/m/ has good criticism with less spam/offtopic/waifu garbage, but I guess the lure of Plebbit botposts is irresistible.
>>280116080Nyaan is also Shuji's property.
>>280110537Why couldn't we have an episode just for the three of them?
>>280116146Machu belongs to Gquax
>>280113862>be huge cunts to anyone except the boy who is a huge asshole>steal gundam, steal money, disappear without family knowing>commit genocide>end up at a whorehouse>all so they could have a nice day at the beachThey sure did!
>>280116398Every gundam is Shuji's property.
>>280116408Machu singlehandedly gave UC a happy ending. Say thank you to her.
>>280116661Sayla doesn't look happy.
>>280115834strong as ever
Will shuujimachu have more content like sulemio?
>>280117477No because Machu alone can't carry it. No one except a handful of people like Shuji.
>>280117477Oh please, I would rather want more Garrod x Tiffa than shuwho
>>280117486>No one except a handful of people like Shuji.Everyone who genuinely likes Machu likes Shuji.
>>280117486You can't ship ShuChu without liking both of them and they are the #1 fan favorite couple.
>>280117732problem is, you don't know how to interpret their relationship.
>Machu then kisses Shuji before ultimately killing him
WTF! Is this true? I understand now why some people say they will meet again after Machu dies.
>>280117707i'm Machu's #1 fan and I feel indifferent to negative towards Shuji. Even her dynamic wkth Higeman and co. is better than with him. Shuji is just a trophy wife.
>>280117732>they are the #1 fan favorite couple.It is a no contest. They are the only canon couple since both of them confessed that they are in love with each other and kissed onscreen to seal the deal.
>>280117796>i'm Machu's #1 fan and I feel indifferent to negative towards Shuji.Because you don't really like her. If you did then you will accept everything about her including her undying and devoted love for Shuji.
>Chalia wanted to support Sayla all along
These writers are really, really bad. Likeโฆ they could add in a scene or two of Chalia talking to a mysterious person and have that person revealed to be Ral or Hamon once he decides to fight Char.
>>280117732Only Nyaancucks hates Shuji for choosing Machu over Nyaan.
I like how sulemiofags didn't bother to ruin the other ship but only guelfags are that desperate.
>>280117486Shuji is very popular with women and is probably more objectified by artists over Machu (excluding seasonal coomer art/AI)
>>280118094>>280118127Machu and Nyaan should forget about the twink and fuck each other's vagina.
>>280117978>10th place>popularironic
>Shuji is a popular character. He's a key character in the story, and his actions and development have sparked much discussion and analysis within the Gundam community.
I don't want to accept this.
>>280117846I've loved Machu since episode 1. I've supported her even as everyone was shitposting about her.
They've simply failed to establish any dynamic between them except that Machu is enamored.
The entire relationship is carried by Machu's personality because Shuji hasn't displayed any towards her. If you look at fanart it's really just all Shuji being Machu's trophy wife.
Compare it with Comoli and Challia. It took just a few lines with each of them for people to pinpoint their dynamic towards each other which immediately spawned a shit ton of comics of them.
Shuji also barely has any solo fanart. Most of it is from yumes who also want to fuck him. It's just too hard to imagine how he would act like except being a passive dreamy boy.
If they are going to make gqx2 they should focus on the rose universe, shuji, rose lalah and the war between zeon, aueg, feddie and titans
>>280118170>char is 8th place
>>280117732So, when we will get good fanfictions of them?
>>280112908Char offscreen cameo.
I think it's pretty funny that most Japanese fans completely understand why Chalia would betray Char, even if it did seemingly come out of the left field - it's like "Oh yeah, that asshole is definitely a threat, that makes sense"
>>280118628Are you saying you don't?
>>280118273Also the show just completely forgets to show why specifically they would love each other. It's especially egregious with Shuji because he doesn't show any of his internal thoughts, what Machu means to him and how she makes him happy after how long he had been looping. He has to literally exposition dialogue to the audiencs that he loves her in the final minutes of the show.
Even Machu has no feelings towards him as a person for most of the show. He's just the vehicle for her dreams but nowhere did she even interact with him as a person. Hell the only scene we have of the two actually talking casually is just Machu being horny for his collarbones without noticing his fever.
There's just nothing to root for, nothing to bite into to drive a shipper's fantasy. It's just the show telling you the cute girl ans the cute boy get together. Even Gquax has more romance with her.
>>280118680>Even Gquax has more romance with her.That is bullshit and you know it.
>>280118680>>280118273how does it feel to know that hordes of lonely yumefags understand the characters better than you
>>280118778It's just hysterical honestly
>>280118680>It's especially egregious with Shuji because he doesn't show any of his internal thoughtsDid you even bother to wonder if that was the point maybe?
>>280118729Gquax hugs her and then holds her hands by his own volition while Machu remarks he'd always supported her.
Shuji has to literally exposite how he loves Machu, otherwise you have no indication that he even cared about her.
>>280118868I understand the point was for him to be the mysterious dream boy. Doesn't mean that it was a good setup for a starcrossed lovers ending.
I'm trying to think up a way the plot could work in GQ without all the multi-universe shit. Like have most of the worldbuilding stay the same, but no Rose-Lala, no Shuji, Char really dies at Solomon (but no body so many don't believe it). Machu would still be the same and would jump in to kick cops' butt readily, but Nyaan would have to be a pilot already.
Still yet to invent a way for Machu to get a super-experimental gundam if there's no Red Gundam to bait Bull into coming to Side 6.
>>280118880But that is still just a non-living robot. You need to be mentally ill actually believe what you are saying.
>>280118768Point me to where the show displays that he cared about that? He just let himself get dragged along, nowhere does it even seem like he enjoys the Hara Herimushi nickname.
This is not about understanding implied information. It's just headcanon to fill the void that the show left you with. It would have helped a ton if Shuji displayed any semblance of enjoying their company and then being regretful that he has to reset this universe.
>>280118988A robot with a human soul in it that shows it cares about Machu without words.
The closest thing we have is Shuji protecting her. But at that point they had just met, so he would have done it to anyone and it wasn't Machu specifically who he cared about. And afterwards he doesn't give her any regard until the very end.
>>280119146So the robot is Machu's friend while Shuji is Machu's lover. There is really no conflict.
>>280108306 (OP)is it more yurislop? Or can I go back to enjoying people beating each other up in giant robots?
>>280119168The organically shows us the robot is Machu's friend. The show has to literally tell you verbally that Shuji is Machu's lover because they forgot to build it for the other 11 episodes.
>anon shipping pedoamuro and machu now
>>280119292They are technically bisexuals.
Would you guys watch something like gqx but zeta?
>>280119308Shuji x Machu is on the bottom tier of all Machu ships. It's only above Machu and faceless Zeon men in Kabas.
>>280119420>Shuji x Machu is on the bottom tier of all Machu shipsShuji x Machu is the canon couple You don't even need to ship them.
Did machu x shuji beat char x chalia?
>>280119420top 3 the worst machu's ships are nyaanchu, shumachu and charmachu
>>280119472charlalah beat charllia
I'm not really sure why shumachu is 100x more popular and well-received in Japan than in the West
It's just surprising considering Sulemio was equally loved by both fandoms
>>280118628>Challiaโs Newtype talent is reading minds>Can read that Char will do anything he deems necessary for his goals, like try and let Solomon drop on Granada just to kill one person. Everyone should have seen something like this coming desu.
>>280119551Japan has more girls watching anime. They will like it simply because it's cute girl x cute boy. Western women don't watch Gundam.
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>>280119551The only Gundam couple I hardcore ship is Char and Haman. I dropped WfM and pretty much most any AU I tried to watch except G. Sayla's nipples are pink, Char loves eating pussy, and my favorite Gundam product is about office ladies.
I think gqx char is overhated, bro is really calm and chill compare to uc char, haman, gihren, kycilia, bask and scirocco
>>280119663Casval Rem Diekun is a freak bitch.
I am so glad GQuuuuuuX got people to watch Zeta. It really is my favorite anime ever made.
I feel like WfM people came for yuri, and then left.
>>280119534This. Char ditched Challia to go live happily ever after with Lalah. Neither seem especially torn up by this decision.
You could all be watching a way better Gundam show.
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLJV1h9xQ7Hx8id2TZBKVSeEM7lnOHCPQB
>>280119817>leftThe spin-off manga just started and it received very well.
>>280120009When I mean people left I mean they left Gundam and mecha but not yuri. They didn't bother to check out the rest of the franchise or UC.
>>280119551I do not understand how anyone can enjoy that romance.
I can understand why people like Kira and Lacus and other shit I think is cringe, but Machu and Shuji I honestly don't get, there's just nothing there to get invested in,
>>280120105Ohh, I thought you meant gwitch only.
Is this show good?
The volume of people screaming that it isn't will help me assess if it's worth watching.
>>280119551100x more old U.C. nerds in Japan
>>280120105>I came here to HaHaHaman at you
>>280120183No but itโs fun
>>280120183It is a solid 6/10, but Mobile Suit Gundam (1979) is a 10/10 and you should absolutely watch that.
>>280109332>I weigh 49kgWtf.
Anorexia isn't healthy anon.
This is what a 10/10 character looks like.
>>280120214bruh I've watched all of 0079, and Zeta, and I started watching ZZ but experienced Tomino Burnout, where I got tired of seeing hot moody female pilots in cool suits and immediately knowing "She's gonna fucking die. It's gonna be all tragic and poignant and shit, War is Bad."
>>280120236If you have already seen 0079 and Zeta then you should at least give GQuuuuuuX a try. Your milage will vary.
Shumachu is what 4sule could have been... I feel kinda bitter seeing how Shumachu is so popular right now while 4sule is basically dead.
>>280120275You fool, you don't know if he's watched CCA yet.
>>280120236Watch Char's Counterattack first, endure Tomino a bit longer.
The beach was already occupied.
>>280119551>Shuji finally reveals his MO>It's literally about loving a woman that's not MachuYou have to had been into the initial aesthetics of the pairing, which western fans didn't seem particularly interested in in the first place.
>>280120323I've seen it, AND 8th MS team, AND War in the Pocket, which was what broke me of what I'll call my SEED bias, where I watched SEED as a teenager and thought "Wow this is really dumb, Gundam is bad."
I've also watched a shitload of side-stuff, so my question of "is this good?" was an "is this a good Gundam so far?"
>ummm akshually it IS good writing but ummm you Westerners wouldn't get it
I am SO tired of this shit.
Doo-chan is recuperating at the moment. Please continue buying lots of merch to help support her recovery!
>>280120311Guelsule is way more dead but it's funny that they still keep their delusion until now.
>>280120351>the initial aesthetics of the pairingWhat does this word salad MEAN?
What I think about shuujimachu is that people are just making their own version about this pairing while the writer have no idea what he's doing.
Resolving everything through the power of love was unexpected.
>>280120167This is exactly what I mean. As a shipperfag there's simply nothing in it that you can bite into. All the charm is focused on Machu and what she wants. Shuji is just her accessory.
>>280118680I guess Iโd be more annoyed if lot of ships in Gundam werenโt just vessels for the series themes. At least in UC.
My headcannon is that Machu is a fem Scirocco and has a strong innate charisma to her despite being an autistic femlet.
>>280120452The aesthetics of a cute bubbly girl and a dreamy mysterious boy.
Basically how it looks and feels like.
>>280120167>>280120805Shuji and Lalah are the main characters of the story. Machu was simply the plot device.
>>280120881This makes Machu act like a whore
>>280120946She does it for free with Shuji so she is not a whore.
>>280120946Because she's a lustful girl.
Machu has only ever had sex with females. This will remain true until she dies.
>>280120946Searching the galaxy for Shuji, kissing Shuji, sleeping with Shuji, making babies with Shuji and marrying Shuji is not acting like a whore.
>>280120908You have no idea what those words mean.
The main character is the protagonist, the one through whose eyes we see the world and whose thoughts and experiences are the ones we have the most insight in. The protagonist is led out of their mundane life into the mystery of the world by the other characters. The protagonist is NOT necessarily the one who is most important in the plot progression.
Shuji has none of those things. He is there to further the plot without us introspecting into him as a person. He and Lalah are the plot devices.
>>280108306 (OP)A year from now nobody's remembering this show. Even a week after it aired the only thing left to discuss is shipping.
>>280121090The protag is the center of the story. That is Lalah and Shuji. All Machu does is act as a plot device for those two.
>>280120452Two words is not a word salad.
>>280121168I just told you the protagonist is not the center of the story. The protagonist is the center of the viewer's experience of the story. Continue being illiterate.
>>280121149The climax of the finale was a kiss and two characters we've known for decades finally ending up together
it would be a huge disappointment for the show if no one discussed shipping
>>280121149They honestly fucked themselves over by making it so large scale, it makes the whole thing feel very dreamlike, difficult to truly quantify and as a result largely inconsequential to a lot of viewers. There's no point in really speculating mysteries like how Shuji knows Lalah or if Machu can meet Shuji again because it's so open ended there's barely anything educated to discuss.
>>280118321Challia is hotter than Char.
>>280121266And fujos are still willingly buying merch even whilst crying about being baited, shipping is a hell of a money maker
This trio needs a spinoff.
>>280121568Fujos seem to be happily making fanart about Challia, Char and Machu in my twitter timeline.
>>280121627>Fujos seem to be happily making fanart about Challia, Char and Machu in my twitter timeline.Because they all agree that Machu is made to be fucked in the ass by Char and Challia.
>>280121627Presumably that's Japanese fujos who don't care so much about what ends up as canon. I've been seeing a lot of western fujos still incredibly salty after convincing themselves it was surely going to be a char/challia end.
>>280121705They headcanon Machu as the Charlia daughter.
>>280121733A daughter who is made for anal sex. This detail is important.
>>280121716it's only the western fans who are angry about anything really
even nip yurifags are happy with the ending unlike ameritroons
>>280121404Thats because you have never seen Zeta or CCA. I would do all kinds of stupid shit to CCA Char.
The two most retarded and fuckable people in their respective universe.
>>280120351>>Shuji finally reveals his MO>>It's literally about loving a woman that's not MachuHow the fuck do fans of this pairing cope?
>>280120351>>280122148Not only that, Machu also sends him back to the universe where Lalah neither has Char nor Amuro and therefore is available for Shuji.
What did they mean by this?
>>280114806That reminds me of some news I saw the other day:
https://arstechnica.com/science/2025/06/researchers-get-viable-mice-by-editing-dna-from-two-sperm/
They actually got two female mouse donors working ~20 years ago with deletions, but couldn't get two male donors to be viable that way till earlier this year. This news is on another method that marks one of the donors' DNA to behave like the opposite sex for embryo-growth-regulating purposes. The viability rate is low though, and you still need an egg to inject the donor DNAs into, and a female mouse to carry it to term. Advantage: yuri.
>>280115386You weren't supposed to point that out.
Watched the previous series after Gquux.
Which I don't get the hate for Unicorn? Unicorn basically did what Gquux couldn't. It's mostly reference of the past and Char forma de Full Frontal not being able to let go of the past
>>280108601I'm the same height as nyaan.
>>280109101>>280109229It seems to be a sample platter of 0079 stuff, to get people curious enough. That plus the bad ending, makes people want to watch the og.
>>280109024She's a ship girl who provides exposition, that hardly counts as a character.
That's like classic anime levels of side character writing, yet she's advertised like a major player.
>>280109101Yes, currently watching Zeta.
>>280118628Kek
>>280122354Modus operandi. The way something/someone usually works.
>>280109841Imagine being a civilian in that universe during the final episodes. In literally a day both the major players vying for power and leading to a hot war die and dissappear, along with a majority of their forces and bases getting destroyed/erased from existence. The power hierarchy literally changes in one day, and the world almost ended apparently.
>>280121333Tbh I find Lalah being the universes Azathoth a more interesting approach to an alt timeline story than the standard multiverse that exists just cause.
>>280122807And most civilians didn't even notice or care.
>>280120337How come Setsuna isn't having the shits?
>>280122807so i guess the EF/nu-titan won in this? i imagine there will be a renewed push for war by the earthnoids after witnessing zeon trying to bomb them again with yet another WMD
sayla is a capable pilot but with the majority of zeon forces gone i don't think she'll be able to keep bask and the likes in check
>>280123074>*majority of Ghiren's forces.Fixed for you.
Zeon still owns Granada and Luna 2.
M'quve and his forces are still alive. The feds have no space outpost and don't even control all of earth. They'd still be fighting a massive uphill battle.
>>280123149Also the titans don't exist. They're just a splinter group of terrorists whose biggest MS got destroyed.
>>280109101>Did GQuuuuuuX get you to watch 0079?No, but it is getting me to watch G-Reco so it's good
>>280119551Shuuji appeals to the woman.
>>280123473Wish I could like G-Reco.
What got you to stick around, anon?
Another morning I wake up, hum The Girl on a Space Colony while making breakfast, and think about all the little details and connections in Gqux I've never seen someone even mention in these threads
>>280123542I've yet find a woman who likes Shuuji.
Even Suisei, who loves anime twinks and gacha idol boys doesn't care about him
He's simply too much of a non-character.
>>280122819The Elmeth suddenly having the power to make her into that comes off as 'just because" anyways.
>>280123797This. I have a feeling it's men who are drawing all these fanarts
>>280123797I knew two who liked him but dropped off when he killed the mom.
>>280118273Shuji is a goal that Machu can project rather than a character. Now you know how feminists feel about female characters in shounen
>>280124762Shouldn't be other way around?
>>280124762Girls in shonen anime have more personality than Shuuji
>>280124238The vampire Shuuji is definitely drawn by a girl. But it's all just about his vibe as a character. There's no substance in him. The vibe can only carry him so far until he gets boring.
>>280124871It was drawn by a man I'm pretty sure. Most of these are
I legitimately can't see any woman being attracted to him though. He seems too passive and mysterious.
>>280123797The biggest Shuuji lover spoiled ShuuMachu before when the first movie was just coming out
>>280124937I can assure you that being bitten by a handsome boyfailure vampire is absolutely a woman's fantasy. Machu and Nyaan being the recipients is self insertion.
>>280125020And? He's a man
>>280125020This artist is a faker and an amateur. She just happened to be a false clock that was correct for a moment. And Machu had zero relation to apples.
>>280125054The artist is a man. Shuji isn't popular with women.
>>280120402My favorite part is when someone says "DON'T YOU GET IT, IT'S SYMBOLISM" about the franchise behind Windmill Gundam.
>Yes, Amuro, we truly were the G-Cucks.
I still tear up when I remember this line.
>>280125181I mean G Gundam is pretty on the nose with symbolism, but yeah.
>>280125117I'm baffled people are still giving this guy the time of day when it's already been said they were called out for lying in the past
How come women didn't like Shuuji?
>>280125289Japan in general takes to symbolism like a clown takes to banana cream pie.
>>280125138https://x.com/krymrin/media
1000% a woman. Men don't draw men like this. Not even gay men.
I'm not arguing that Shuji is very popular with women. This artist in particular is most definitely female though.
>>280125369He has the looks but nothing behind it.
>>280109114Goddamn right she is
>>280125449I'm still not convinced
I've yet to find a single woman artist who likes Shuuji, so I think it's very unlikely that's a guy
>>280125523I think your obsession with denying Women like Shuuji is reaching schizo levels, anon.
>>280125545Stop defending your non-character husbando
>>280125369>how come women didn't like the worst written male character in modern gundamgee i wonder
>>280125575Just saying, calm down buddy
>>280125449Looks like a woman to me too, Shuji's doll looking like a kpop boy there heh
>>280125523You know exceptions don't disprove a rule right?
>>280125449that man really loves shuuji
>>280125369I've personally seen several women who like Shuji, and from different nationalities too โ the United States, Japan, and even Colombia. I've even seen them directly mention that they self-insert with Machu because they like Shuji.
Another day Shuumachu invades my timeline despite not following Gundam related stuff
Besides 4chan i have yet to see a man who likes Shuuji. Reddit is kind of a wild guess since you don't know who is is a boy/girl
>>280125625I know I'm just saying it's unlikely
>>280125681they're probably trannies anon
>>280125739They're females, not trannies.
Life without Gundam feels empty
>>280125681There's two concepts that can be true at once here.
>He's not popular with the women.Most female watchers prefer Char or Challia. Machu is also popular with them
>Only women like himThe remainder of the people who do like him are predominantly women who find him visually attractive. He doesn't have much else going on for him.
>>280125739>tranniesKill yourself back to /pol/, tourist
>>280125961But I don't think anyone liked Shuji though. Even Suisei didn't like him
>>280115402>>If this tendency becomes stronger and discussion of the work is no longer held, more replies will be selected from sites like reddit.Maybe redditors that spam watch threads with nothing replies will head back there.
>>280126044Shuuji has at least a nonzero amount of fans.
>>280126057I think self inserters liked him but probably not women
>>280126075Vtuber who sings the ed. She likes younger guys too so she fits in the Gundam universe
Women only like rich men that's why Shuji doesn't have much female fans because he's a hobo.
>>280126092Oh yeah, i've seen women like him because he is cute, hot, and dangerous. They really nailed it when creating Shuuji. He is peak "Women appeal"
What do you call it when a character is equally gross and cute looking?
>>280125961Agree with your first point but I haven't seen a single woman find him attractive
>>280126108>>280126044>the e-celeb I simp for doesn't like himThat's all the more reason to like him.
>>280126164That's interesting, i have
>>280126075Stupid blue comet who didn't get script access rights.
>obsessing over the popularity of a character with less screentime than the side characters
Yeah no shit the other characters are more popular. The creators barely gave a fuck about him.
>>280126146Shuji had the potential to be massively popular with women from his aesthetics alone. They just failed to back it up with personality.
Women like Shuuji as their self-insert's prize.
>>280126292Why don't they like Nyaan as Machu's prize
>>280126234Man, if they had given him more story, i am scared of what Shuuji's popularity would have become. If he is already this loved by women then oof. God saves us all
>>280126264A cute boy for sure.
>>280126234Yeah. Women in real life hate characters like Shuji
I think i saw Suisei and another vtuber cringe at his pathetic i love you
>>280126306They are talking in the romantic department.
>>280126354Machu and Nyaan can be romantic too though
They're probably even more popular than Shuji/Machu now because of the awful finale
>>280126306Most women don't dream of getting a tall thai live in platonic girlfriend.
Hopes, wishes, and expectations for the next Gundam romance? IBO and Hathaway aside
I like these comiket parodies. They're hilarious.
>>280126417Hopefully a man who's actually popular with women
>>280126394I guess some people's delusions only go that far. I've seen shuumachu in my timeline a lot with one or two keknyaan art. Is funny
>>280126443Most popular Gundam boy incoming
>>280126417More sulemio items and heartwarming description while waiting for the next chapter.
This thread is hilarious
A bunch of basement dwellers unironically arguing what women like
>>280126502>Shit voiceSorry anon. It's not going to happen.
>>280126520Future anon, future. The dyke anime already ended
>>280126531Are you implying i don't know what Women like? Zenitsu is the most popular male character of the decade
>>280126531Me and my friend don't like Shuji so I have a sample size of 2. We also both like Machu.
On the out of nowhere nature of Shuji's confession, I feel like it undercuts what was (I assume) supposed to be the moment which show's Machu's growth as a character. She initially only cares about helping Shuji to the point she helps him realize he is in love with Lalah, in essence "letting go" of any perceived chance she has of being with him. Shuji deciding he's happy to be with her moments later muddies the waters.
>>280126531We all know girls are never attracted to a soft spoken mysterious dude with big hands
>>280126666I don't think Shuuji had feelings for Lalah. He just wanted to protect her. How old is Lalah anyway
>>280126732Same age as him if she's from 0079.
>>280126803Machu...........
>>280126798doesnt make sense because the universe has existed for at least 6 years.
Shuji must've been like 11-12 when he arrived if he's the same age as Machu and Nyaan
>>280126666I just assume there were two writers. I know Enokido is the main writer and Anno/Tsurumaki contributed but this show makes more sense if Mr Hyde was writing one half and Dr Jekyll wrote the other.
>>280126803flopping around as you use his boyhole...
>>280126732Lalah is frozen in time, so she'd be the same age as she was in 0079. The real question is how old Shuji should be, if he's been chasing her across universes for an indeterminate amount of time.
>>280126666I agree with this. It'd have made for a much stronger moment for Machu for her to be crying at the end.
>>280126988What? She was literally crying at the end
>>280127006No I mean it'd be a stronger scene if she was crying because she had to let him go.
>>280127037But that's what happened? Why else would she be crying?
>>280127053I think what anon means is that Machu had to let go of her feelings for Shuuji it would be a better scene. Not crying because they are once again separated
>>280127053She was crying because they were seperated despite loving each other.
If Shuuji didn't confess, she would be crying because she prioritized his happiness over her own by pushing him to be with Lalah.
>>280127092Nope, you have to have a happy, successful romance. That is the law in slop.
>>280127104Machu chasing after the guy all series and merch for nothing would be bad writing, to be honest
>>280120871>My headcannon is that Machu is a fem Scirocco and has a strong innate charisma to her despite being an autistic femlet.It would explain why she can effortlessly make so many different women swoon after her, including Comoli.
>>280127163She'd need another reward. So it comes back down to having to rewrite the show.
Gonna watch Trigger EVA now.
>>280127104>>280127092That would make no sense. Machu wasn't trying to push Shuji to Lalah, she was trying to protect her from being killed because of Shuji's unnecessary autism
Machu was being selfless here, and she was going against what Shuji wanted to do because she knew it was wrong for him to carry that burden. And it's that show of strength that leads to Shuji falling for her
>>280127392Man, that actually makes sense and elevates the scene and message. Thank you based literature, anon
>>280127392She was telling him to live for himself, as she had been doing the whole season. Her message about Newtypes being strong on their own and not needing protection is weakened by Shuji needing her in the end.
>being selflessShe wasn't being selfless because Shuji would've deleted her world. Her message to him was that he should be more selfish
Nyaan's roast beef pussy...
>>280126803shuji's pp is tiny actually
Char was right in the end
>>280127392Machu wasn't trying to push Shuji to Lalah, but she was encouraging him to live for himself, as you say, which included her pointing out to him the fact that he cared more deeply for Lalah than he was acknowledging. In that moment she put her own desire to be with him aside for his own sake, and I think having Shuji not reciprocate Machu's feelings for him at the end would've hammered home that point better.
>>280127618It also weakens Machu's own growth as she says she would become stronger.
She needed him as a stepping stone into the world of newtypes and loved him for showing her in, but the message at the end would have been that she will be fine on her own now and can control her own life. Having it be tied back to Shuji after all is regressive.
>>280127618Why would that message be weakened? Shuji's strength as a Newtype isn't the issue, it's his refusal to abandon his Lalah genocide. He wasn't in need of protection but rather someone to stop him. I don't think that's the same thing
>>280128020He does his Lalah genocide because he wants to protect her and sacrifices his own wellbeing for that goal. Machu tells him that he doesn't need to protect her anymore.
>>280127912Is she fine though? She's a wanted criminal bumming around on a lawless Earth with another criminal.
>>280127808>>280127912I mean personally I would have been okay with this route, but I don't see how it necessarily drives the message better. It's just making the ending bittersweet just because
>>280128080She's free on earth and doing what she wants. She's pretty much fine.
>>280128148I mean it's still bittersweet because she lost him. This way at least it would've been bittersweet because of her own agency and choice rather than a circumstance she had no control over. I feel that'd have been stronger
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>>280128148This point has nothing necessarily to do with it being better, but I've seen a lot of people complain about Machu not really growing or changing, which I think would be lessened if they'd taken the approach where Machu doesn't get Shuji.
>>280128208It'd also be a clean conclusion to her previously going
>there's no kirakira without Shujiif we had a
>the kirakira was inside ourselves all along
>>280126044>>280126167Didn't she only say she was confused by him as a character? It was the same stuff posted here about how his background and motivations are almost entirely unexplored and we have no idea how he even learned of Lalah, if he ever met her before her coma, etc. Shuuji is almost entirely a matter of looks and then his exposition in Episodes 11 and 12, and the fan poll that put him at #10 or so was taken before Episodes 11 and 12, so we don't know where he'd rank in a poll with the series completed.
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>>280129199That could be the for same reasons I mentioned. Also, she's just one woman instead of some grand signifier of Shuuji's overall fan base. Another anon summed it up well, Shuuji might not be very popular but could have mainly women representing the few fans he does have.