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Oh yeah that happened

>>280118986 (OP)
why dont modern manga and anime have any staying power?

>>280119010
because a million anime a year are made, the chinks are doing it right by consolidating their efforts

>>280118986 (OP)
>Bruh this is so peak ong!!!
*One day later*
>Bruh what is that some Chinese cartoon bruh grow bruh type shit is that type shit L

Remember when it saved anime?

>>280119050
>>280119291

>>280119035
This plus they are shorter, and therefore less likely to grab multiple genrations of fans. OP aside, MHA was probably the longest one in a while and that only hit 430.

Imagine Shonen Jump right now, desperately looking for a future One Piece replacement and all the recent shit is mid. I bet Two Piece might come true afterall

>>280119483
>two piece
Luffy won’t have kids, no doubt Oda has changed his mind over things through the years but no wife and kids for Luffy is one thing that will 100% guaranteed

>>280119656
Who says that the sequel always has to be about the MC's kid? Maybe it will be Ace's and Yamato's bastard son, maybe it will be a random kid inspired by Luffy, or whatever

>>280119656
Found family is a big aspect of the series, his brothers are not even blood related. His spiritual successor can be anyone like Bonney. That being said, there’s no real Great adventure left after toppling the secret ruler running the world and uncovering the truth

>>280118986 (OP)
for me its deidara

>>280119723
Just spoil it for me. What was the One Piece and who was the big bad ruler? I'm not reading 900 million manga pages to figure it out.

>>280119834
>What was the One Piece and who was the big bad ruler?
Still unknown.

>>280119834
>who was the big bad ruler
Some devil person introduced in chapter 986 or something. Also Shanks has an evil twin brother.

>>280119943
>>280119990
Wait, it's STILL not done? How many fucking chapters are there!? We STILL don't know what the One Piece even is?

>>280119483
Boruto and Dragon Ball Super was supposed to be the current big thing but they all failed hard kek

>>280120306
Boruto is the second most popular manga in Japan.

>>280119010
This question's been answered a gazillion times. Social media rotted society's attention span with instant gratification and constantly changing algorithms. Worldwide internet access has forced every piece of media to compete with literally everything else made by the entire world. It's impossible for even a good new IP made under these conditions to have anywhere near as much staying power as any IP from the before times. Something like JJK with absolutely no substance to its story or characters and nothing going for it other than shallow powerleveling shit and shock value that only works once had zero chance.
Realistically we need to start grading new media on a curve instead of expecting them to have Pokemon/Dragon Ball/Star Wars level success without the market conditions that allowed those IPs to become so dominant.

>>280118986 (OP)
>>280119010
I wonder what anon meant by this? He seems to be implying something but its just so vague it's hard to tell.
Like is it supposed to be about having threads up, like there is now?
Is it supposed to be about big manga, like say, HxH which isn't being talked about literally right this moment? Long running managa like Ippo or Conan? Are they tourists who think having a general is good?
It can't be about popularity.
It seems they want to say something, at least, but everything I can think of doesn't mesh with reality. Like, even making this thread OP has it living rent free in his head, so what could he could he possibly mean by staying power?

>>280120316
by what possible metric? Certainly not sales.

>>280120126
Nigga why would you think it's over? If One Piece ended the whole /a/ and a bunch of other boards and the whole social media would not shut up about it. Damn you're a fucking retard

>>280121005
Well for one, I'm not a fucking zoomer faggot on social media, and two, I don't give two flying fucks about it so I don't pay attention. I just thought you faggots would know if it was out so I asked.

>>280121034
Yes but you do browse /a/ and you would still know if it's over. Damn, you indeed are a retard

>>280120316
headcanon: the post

>>280121125
What if I told you (which I already did) that I don't give a shit about it an ignore all One Piece threads? Just thought I'd drop in and ask if you fags found out about the end yet so I could stop seeing anything about it?
I got my answer, but you can keep seething if you want. I don't really care that your shitty manga has 20 million chapters and still going with no closure. Enjoy your blue balls for 10 more years.

>>280121179
>that I don't give a shit about it an ignore all One Piece threads
Holy fuck, what is wrong with you? Did your whore mother drop you on your head as a kid? (I already told you), if One Piece ended you wouldn't be able to ignore any thread, you visit the catalog and it would be filled to the the brim with OP threads, like when it happened with Gear 5. There's no escaping it, no matter how hard you're larping as 'le cool sophisticated person that ignores the popular thing, hehe'. Genuinely kys

>>280121034
You are ignorant. When One Piece ends, you won't be able to avoid knowing about it.
Just Google it instead of asking next time.

Nobody cares.

>>280121381
>>280121665
You guys are right. Thanks for reminding me why I don't care about One Piece and why its' fans are dumb faggots.

>>280119010
Because they lack soul and consistency.
Even Bleach, as trash as it was, was consistently trash

>>280121918
>calls other people dumb
>while asking moronic questions
>bringing up shitty arguments
>not even knowing other insults aside from 'faggot'
yeah you sure showed me

>>280119010
TV reruns and fillers aren't talked about enough. Back in the day even without new episodes or new things to adapt from the manga, things like dbz would be constantly airing. Nowadays you get a batch of 12-14 episodes and have to avoid spoilers for over a year sometimes to get a few more episodes, and by then do you even remember or care about that series anymore?

>>280123139
*12-24

>>280118986 (OP)
it really happened

>>280122787
>calls other people dumb
When did I do that? Sounds like something you did.

>>280122198
Bleach is worse than JJK

>>280123260
NTA but you're a fucking retard, you clearly have 0 clue what the other anon is saying and are doubling down like some pseud narc who can't admit they could ever be wrong. He's saying that regardless of how much you care about one piece, you WILL know when it ends, same way if you never read berserk you KNEW that miura died, SnK if you never read that you knew how retarded the ending was. You're retarded for asking if it ended because if it did, you wouldn't need to be asking.

>>280123365
JJK is gayer tho

>>280125026
that's the only reason its better

>>280125055
JJK doesn't have as many retcons as Bleach.

>>280125499
And it has better characters too.

>>280118986 (OP)
>>280119291
>not having a 24/7 schizo thread on a dead site means its a dead series
ok then

>>280119010
It's not that they lack staying power, it's that they weren't that good to being with.
It seems like modern anime watchers are incredibly easy to impress. How many times have you seen normies hype something up as the best shit ever only for it to be just kinda ok?
So their good-but-not-really series get their 15 mins in the sun and get promptly forgotten.

Just the other day the TT guys were claiming Orb is an "anime of the decade" contender. Imagine being this easily impressed.

>>280126256
>How many times have you seen normies hype something up as the best shit ever only for it to be just kinda ok?
This. Here's the most recent example

>>280125499
retcons are a sign of a living, breathing world.

>>280126311
Can an oldfag otaku wizard confirm/deny that DDD is shit?
All the newfags have really put a hamper on me finding good stuff to read and watch.
I used to be able to rely on recommendations, but nowadays it's a crap-shoot.
Is Chainsaw man or Dorohedoro also shit? I was looking to eventually get into these three. I liked Fire Punch enough.

>>280125601
/a/ unironically believes that if it doesn't have a 24/7 thread, it doesn't exist. The object permeance of a small child or a dog.

>>280126519
I don't know if i can be classified as an oldfag otaku wizard, but I've read all the series you mentioned and of all of them DDD is by far the least enjoyable. I got roughly 90 chapters in and just got bored of it, it wasn't terrible it just seemed kind of run of the mill, unremarkable. Dorohedoro is a very fun manga, very unique art, amazing cast of characters and a reasonable story (ending is a bit divisive but i liked it). CSM part 1 is good, but imo part 2 is a fucking shadow of part 1's quality in both story and art (not that CSM ever had particularly amazing art). If i'm being honest I never pay attention to any recs on /a/, more often it's more like shit i see on /a/ i'll put on my radar and in my own time i'll decide if i want check it out further. Just read stuff and decide for yourself if it's good, i had tons of people tell me DDD was kino but in the end it was meh, you might end up feeling the same about Dorohedoro who knows.

>>280126519
>beta MC paired with slut

That image alone is proof of the quality

>>280123365
Yet Bleach is remembered, and JJK is not. Proving is point.

>>280119291
Still a solid series

No studios want to try anything new or original since its a risk. It might fail, it most likely will fail a bit.
Might as well make the exactly same tiktok battle shounen with the same characters, same powers and same premise and kids will hype it up. Keep making babbys first animes forever, infinite cash hack.

>>280126974
>shit i see on /a/ i'll put on my radar and in my own time i'll decide if i want check it out further
That's my MO too but the signal to noise ratio is so low nowadays.
Thanks for your thoughts though. Guess I will leave DDD to last as a back up when I'm done with everything else.
>Just read stuff and decide for yourself if it's good
Yeah but I personally find it hard to drop series midway. I know I shouldn't but I do. So I only read/watch certified bangers. That has been proving harder nowadays with everything claiming everything is 'peak'.

>>280127773
>Yeah but I personally find it hard to drop series midway. I know I shouldn't but I do.
Most people drop shit early, even i do, much rarer to get midway into something and drop it. I continued with DDD for longer than i would've normally just because i'd seen people shill it a bunch. My reading habits lead me to either binge a series in a few sittings or read 10-20 chapters every few days, I generally don't read stuff as it publishes chapter by chapter (prefer volume dumps or reading completed works). Most of the things i've dropped in the middle i've gotten passed the start but at some point i just go weeks without reading more chapters and decide to stop reading. That or publishing stuff that loses me along the way (Vinland Saga, To Your Eternity for example).

>>280119010
the real short answer without schizo babble is that these manga focus on hype instead of characters.

This is why chainsaw man is kinda the outlier of this because you have shit like the kobeni car chapter which just doesn't happen in modern shounen

>>280125026
Says the Fujo. Nothing you say is ever canon.

>>280128209
JJK has 3 canonically queer characters

>>280126519
DDD has a fun premise and the art is godlike for a weekly shonen release, also has cool monster designs IMO. Other than that it's completely unremarkable, generic teenager drama shit with some ok fights, incredibly repetitive and formulaic.

>>280119291
Saved? This shit ruined anime. Now everything needs to have flashy animation and movie adaptations.

>>280125055
Fights are way better in JJK. Things that happen in the fight besides the very end matter to the outcome

>>280128650
No it doesn't, fujo. Bleach on the other hand, has three trannies at least.

>>280119010
Because that's the standard, Naruto, OP, and dragon Ball are outliers.
Nobody gives two shits for Hokuto no Ken, or Kenshin, or Yuyu Hakusho either.
Even fucking bleach is relatively forgotten outside of Bleach specific circles, and porn.
Nu Shounen just follow the normal pattern of losing relevance when there's nothing new coming out.
The only one that kinda breaks out from this might be BnH

>>280119010
Because social media robbed people's attention. Its not just anime and manga affected by this, its literally everything. Music, movies, tv shows, even the news doesnt have staying power anymore.

>>280129033
>The only one that kinda breaks out from this might be BnH.
Why does BnH seem to get a lot of hate? From what I saw of it, it seemed like the best battle shonen of the generation. Like classic no bs battle shonen.

>>280129896
>it seemed like the best battle shonen of the generation. Like classic no bs battle shonen.
It was probably the worst one, taking every single bad cue from naruto along, embarassing final arc and ending on par with jjk's.

>>280129926
I only watched the first 3 or so seasons. It had the most classic feel. Certainly better than JJK. It had a functional rivalry. Interesting supporting cast. Cool powers. Target demographic appropriate messaging. Feel good shonen moments.
Reminded me a lot of DBZ honestly.
Did they manage to fuck it up?

>>280129896
>classic no bs battle shonen
That's JJK for sure, if we're comparing on that criteria

>>280118986 (OP)
The author liked sukuna too much. And why kill the gal for most of the series to just bring her back in the end.

>>280131088
Nah. Jjk has bs in spades and in no way is it classic in nature.
It tries to do that thing of straddling the line of being seinen with some dark themes and shock. And fails at it.
Gratuitously complicated powers that don't pay off.
Character arcs that go no where. Worse still, main characters that have no arcs.
What did Yuji even accomplish throughout the series? Did he ever learn anything other than 'black flash'? The skill that is supposedly entirely rng based?
What cursed technique does he even have? I genuinely forgot.
Were there any "help me Luffy" type moments in jjk? Robin screaming she wants to live? Gohan going super saiyan 2 because of A16? All Might going Plus Ultra? Gon trading his future potential?

Put it this way. If I had a 12 year old brother, I would probably recommend he watch BnH instead and he will most likely have a better time what that show.

>>280131222
The fact that the main trio was absent for the majority of the work says a lot about the author's writing

>>280118986 (OP)
When the anime comes back it'll pick up again. Always does.

>>280131816
He tried to set up some knock off team 7 and proceeded to immediately drop the idea and gave up on it completely.

>>280131725
>had a 12 year old brother, I would probably recommend he watch BnH instead and he will most likely have a better time what that show
Yea. No argument there. All that other stuff is a memory problem but that 12 year old thing is for sure.
I thought you meant "a no bullshit shonen" and JJK gets right to the point. Absolutely no filler. I'll get to the other stuff later because Yuji is a great character.
Oh also, JJK has a terrible anime adaption. It's a manga only series

>>280131906
>here's something he didn't do
>he totally tried to copy for that thing he didn't do.

>>280131911
Thanks for seeing where I'm coming from.

>All that other stuff is a memory problem
I genuinely don't think so.
I looked up a random 'top 20 jjk moments' video on youtube to refresh my memory and it was all 'aura aura aura' fight scene type moments.
I stopped reading One Piece years ago and the death of Going Merry is seared into my mind.

>Oh also, JJK has a terrible anime adaption. It's a manga only series
Jokes on you. I only read the manga. It was still terrible.

>>280119291
No
If anything it did irreparable damage to the industry and paved the way for Solo Leveling

>>280119010
Because today's audience doesn't care about anything for more than a week.

>>280118986 (OP)
JJK is the work of a young, self-conscious author trying too hard to live up to expectations/anxiety of influence. I like it, but I'd be curious to see how Gege would handle a second battle shonen series. I want to see Gege's HxH. I like YYH more, but in a lot of ways I think JJK is more creatively successful and Gege could make something truly great if he got out of his own way.

>>280132123
Pretty much, yeah. The new wave of anime "fans" just watches series to stay part of the conversation, but once another popular series comes along, the previous one might as well have never existed.

>>280133417
Are we sure about that? Notice how the sited counterexample manga all are still currently ongoing and still releasing new content? (Naruto, Dragon Ball, One Piece)

>>280131911
>JJK has a terrible anime adaption
I wouldn't say it is terrible, but I understand why people would dislike the changes it made to certain fights.
3 undeniable anime additions that are really good are
1) Yuji gathering his grandfather's remains alone when you are meant to do that as a family showing his grandfather was mostly alone.
2) Yuji vs Choso fight, they added a sequence where choso makes a blood knife knowing it would burst open due to the water just to blind Yuji after the same thing happened to him earlier. Plus how they explain Choso's power using subway terminal graphics was really cool.
3) When Geto is taking his shower the sound of the water is mixed and overtaken by the star cult's applause. That sort of thing would be impossible to do in manga and improve an already great scene.

If season 3 and 4 and continue and more of these little additions I would be very happy.

>>280132123
this
Netflix ruined anime

>>280134084
Y'know. That is very fair. Even as a hater I agree with point 1 and 3.
I think they also did a great job on the intro episode of the Hidden Inventory arc.

That said, I think all their changes made them lose the "feel" of JJK. Little things like adding more visible curse energy when it is scarce in the manga and changing Geto's curse spirit balls to a jewel-like blue instead of pitch black. I also really don't like the major changes to all the fights and I think they fucked up Yuji's emotional moments after Sukuna's massacre and after Mahito's first Domain Expansion. I had very high expectations for the fights and they even removed my favorite scene from the Choso v Yuji fight. So, I can't change my mind on the anime.

>>280132123
>>280126595
It's sad, /a/ is filled to the brim with old shows regularly and necrobumped to hell and no one watches new things anymore..

>>280119010
Nowadays in order to not get axed you have to blow your load early and survive off of hype. That's not conducive to producing something with long term staying power.

>>280119291
AOT saved anime but nobody wants to admit it.

>>280131725
>>280132027
>Gratuitously complicated powers
That example is a prank. Its a pachinko manual that is beamed into their head to simultaneously fuck with them and fulfills the condition of informing the opponent of the rules. The vast majority of any fight is all action without any dialogue. So at this point you're just mad at any explanation for powers at all.
>never paid off
What? Like you missed that the powers worked or like you missed that this example was a prank
>arcs
You think the characters don't have arcs? All characters in all story's have arcs. Arcs are what happens to the character. But yea this is that memory problem of yours I pointed out. Gojo had all the power but couldn't do it all alone despite that. Geto wanted to protect the weak but was disgusted by their dark side. Nanami wanted a simple life but ultimately couldn't turn away from curse spirits plaguing people.
>What did Yuji accomplish?
He defeated Sukuna. Ever heard of him? He defeated Mahito. He changes Jujutsu society from the ground up; person by person. Which is also carrying on Gojo's will. That's why he repeats Gojo's last words to the Curse User at the end.
>Did he ever learn anything......... and etc. wow
You've got obscene memory loss issues my dude. Fitting for someone trying to equate character growth to power level. To answer the question, yeah, he learns RCT, Simple Domain and Domain Expansion. He also acquires the blood manipulation technique as well as Sukuna's Shrine
>Where are the "help me Luffy" type moments?
Yuji breaking down after the Shibuya massacre and Nobara's death, declaring "he only chose to take deal with Jujutsu society in order to postpone his execution" >> Now, you'd have to have been paying attention before that but Yuji willing put himself in harms way for the sake of others constantly before that point. He was beating himself up because of his failure and treating himself like shit because he was too guilty to acknowledge his own good nature.

>>280131725
>>280132027
>Where are the "help me Luffy" type moments? cont.
Mechamaru's death. Nanami passing the buck. Mai dying and asking Maki to destroy the entire clan as her dying wish. Riko dying just as she is finally able to choose to live.
Yuji confessing to the Shibuya Massacre in Juju court. Back in Shibuya he said he was a coward just trying to postpone his execution but here he chooses execution because he feels so responsible for a massacre that he only played a part in due to stringent technicality.
>12 year old likes MHA better
>looked up top 20 jjk youtube vids.
yea, I already agreed there. My question is why do you have such a strong opinion about something that you know nothing about?
And mother fucker, I already told you its manga only. The anime sucks and then you come back with "top 20 youtube vids" What the fuck man.

Pic unrelated, I just love posting it. Every single fight has constant feints and tricks. Even just this pic is dense with it. There are 7 tricks here (one is hidden inside another), each pulled from a different fight. No pulling multiple from the same fights.

>>280118986 (OP)
What will be your reactions when Sukuns vs Gojo in season 4 breaks the internet?

>>280137853
Mine will be "DAMN YOU MAPPA! WHY DID YOU ADD ALL THAT DUMB SHIT?!"

>>280137853
I'm going laugh. Reality trolled OP again and I didn't have to do anything

>>280119010
>why dont modern manga and anime have any staying power?
JJK is the most memed modern anime, you couldn't have picked a worse thread to ask this in.

>>280138172
Nice, also;
I had to look three times before I saw Sue wasn't doing an ahego

>>280138172

>>280118986 (OP)
OP
>Uh, that just happened.

>>280137853
I just hope it's enough to rile up another SnK ending tier moment for a day here

>>280120370
Says a lot about our society.

>>280137853
Only gojofags will riot so it won't break internet.

>>280119010
Soulless corporate cashgrabs

>>280119010
>zoomer audience
that's what you get when your main audience is the ADHD generation
shit endings also helps

>>280137542
>>280137809
>it's just a prank bro
okay
>know nothing about
I know nothing about it cause I read all of it and promptly forgot all of it cause it was so unmemorable. I told you I only read your manga only pos. I watched the video to remind myself what happened in this absolutely mid series.
Ok you like jjk, I get it.

>>280142845
"It's bad because I rushed reading it and have a bad memory" isn't an opinion you should share with other people.

>>280143268
Nah, I remember plenty from other mangas I read as I have mentioned. There's a difference between being able to recall something and something being memorable. The only moment from jjk I will agree was memorable was Riko's death. Hidden Inventory was a pretty good arc.
Everything else that was mentioned was not at all at the level of the other shonen moments I mentioned.

>>280118986 (OP)
The last episode was awful.

>>280118986 (OP)
JJK makes Naruto look subtle with how Kishimoto ripped off Togashi. First show that made me realize I have no connection to modern anime fans.

>>280142845
It was a prank, in part. It matches his personality but you wouldn't know that.
Here's one you should understand, its your only example. inb4 any explanation is too much

>>280142845
>Ok you like jjk, I get it.
Ok, and you don't like it. I get it.
Really the only difference between you and me is that I know what I'm talking about and you can't even remember.