Can't a girl develop her breasts while still being a loli?

>>280140162 (OP)

Nope, they're then a hebe

>>280140162 (OP)
Absolutely. I prefer pure flatness and tube bodies, but budding breasts are cute too.

>>280140162 (OP)
In Japan, the definition of loli covers enough territory that the answer is definitively "Yes". Megumin is a loli and has a very slight swell in the chest. Large breasts means the special category oppai loli, but probably breasts that are larger than swells but smaller than medium would create confusion and debate, unless the character is a very young elementary school loli where the head to body ratio indicates this.

>>280140162 (OP)
left:
>the mangaka has seen a live example

right:
>the mangaka has not seen it before

>>280140184
The loli and hebe classification system is one we created. Do we use it because it's always been used here and makes sense, or do we not use it because "loli" is a Japanese concept (it might be a corruption of Lolita but it's still Japanese as a word for underage girl) and the Japanese call things lolis that would come under hebe?

>>280140629
>breasts that are larger than swells but smaller than medium would create confusion and debate, unless the character is a very young elementary school loli where the head to body ratio indicates this.

So like this one? Is she considering an in-between loli to oppai loli?

>>280140749
Possibly that's a Western version of what I'm getting at. I'm just a theorist stuck in the loli labs, and I don't have much time for field work myself.

>>280140749
Damn shes top heavy, since when western cartoon have it good?

>>280140162 (OP)
Of course.

>>280140162 (OP)
They can they just won't be delicious anymore

for me?
tummy peak

>>280140677
As a mangaka myself, I live in the area where most kids are early bloomers with almost B cup breasts and you have no idea how exactly hard it is to draw Lolis

>>280140162 (OP)
it becomes oppai-loli

>>280140749
>posting Gwen in a loli thread
YOU'RE NOT WRONG and I think it speaks to my overall point
It's /co/ rather than /a/, but I think that by porn tags alone you could make the argument that Gwen is *at least* an honorary loli, right? Her design was hot enough that they practically went out of their way to de-lolify her in the sequel series. By age she's "hebe" rather than "pedo," but if you asked like 90% of the perverts who actually draw loli whether Gwen is a "loli," they'd totally say yes. You can find pictures of Gwen past the "crossover" tags in which she's paired with characters who are unquestionably "loli." Pictures of Gwen that were not previously visible will suddenly become visible if you enable the visibility of loli. Artists who draw pics under the "loli" tag draw pictures of Gwen. Lolicons like Gwen, ergo Gwen is a loli. (I feel like Penny Gadget and Jade Chan are similar cases of /co/ lolis)
And she has boobs! Granted, they're not gigantic tits, but they did actually draw her chest with little slopes rather than making her totally flat. She has breasts on-par with what you'd expect to see in, say, Ken Sugimori's art style (or in real life, frankly:) nonzero, but also not huge enough that you'd think she's something other than a kid. Might be part of the Ben 10 artstyle and that era of DC cartoons being purposefully animesque.
Bringing it back to Japanese /a/nime, though, May/Haruka from Pokemon and Riko from Made In Abyss each have boobs. May in particular basically had half of Advance's budget spent on shading her boobs. Does that make them not lolis? I would say they are ICONIC lolis.

Or fuck, Misty.
Is this not a loli? I see some breast tissue. Do the pokies disqualify her?

>>280141422
None of the pokegirls are loli

>>280141366
Star from Star vs is more cute and funny

>>280141434
Iris is the most "loli" among them but all of them are lolis. Just because Ken Sugimori has the balls to include a slight incline and like one line on the girls' chests doesn't delolify them. That's just how they're all drawn. A lot of places make exceptions and act like pokegirls aren't lolis, but they totally are.

>>280141495
Star Butterfly would BARELY qualify. That's a borderline one. Isn't she 14?

>>280140162 (OP)
yes. Patrician choice

>>280141366
I dont remember Riko even had breasts. Im a Anime only so i don't know

>>280141755
Riko has little boobs. They're not huge but they exist.

>>280141786
killed by stairs

>>280141422
She's absolutely Loli by a Japanese understanding of the term, which can use appearance and age. Even by just appearance she reads as if she's a teenage girl.

>>280140162 (OP)
If they macromastia they can.
Unfortunately doctors are forced to cut em off if that's the case since they grow too fast and the skin ruptures.

>>280140178
fpbp
>>280140684
fuck off tourist ironic
13 wasn't underaged for them until your kind infiltrated Japan

>>280140684
It's all loli. I don't particularly mind "hebe", but it's annoying when they pretend their type of "hebe" is not loli.

>>280142836
>>280144075
>>280140684
samefag
teens aren't loli
kill yourself

>>280144214
Nah.

>>280144214
They absolutely are. There are tons of shows where teen characters are referred to as loli. Megumin is referred to as a loli by many characters. For older anime, in City Hunter there's an episode where one of the girls is 14 or 15 and it comes up that Ryo wouldn't hit on her because he's not a lolicon.

I remember when we could talk about lolis without retards saying
>X isn't loli
I think it all went to shit around when the election tourists came.

>>280144258
I don't remember this.

>>280144214
Thoughts on the fact that Angela gets called a loli in Rakuen?

>Thoughts on
Outed himself
cosplays as
bikinischizo mkl lolihaterkun
whichever suits best to push a narrative of lolihate

Girls develop breasts earlier than a lot of you guys think

>>280144276
No thoughts, I must appeal to authority, some faggots said that a hag is a loli and just because they're Japanese and I am not, they are absolutely, undisputably correct, and no matter what I would think, I am objectively wrong.

>>280144284
i hate the isdf
i hate the isdf
i hate the isdf

>>280144258
It's because of schizos who are overly vocal on denying loli status to lolis.

>>280144286
>replying to industry shill defence force
you earned his paycheck of $0.02

>>280144292
And I'd do it again.

>>280144286
True. Because the Japanese define the meaning of the world, not some literally who westoid loser.

>>280144288
death. death. to the isdf.
death. death. to the isdf.
death. death. to the isdf.

Did you know that some posters (well, a single samefagger) get mindbroken when you post an image of medalist, a loli anime?

>>280144314
I'm neither westoid nor the loser though.

>>280144324
>single same
You mean this >>280091193
After 10 replies of self bumping his thread he resorts to hooking ehl are dee

>>280144378
kek

>>280144378
>didn't reach 20 replies
lmao

>>280144378
Not even lard falls for lhk anymore
lh-k plays both sides now in his absence

>>280144378
>is aware of the thread and saved it because he can assign it to his boogeyman
Cute.

>>280144381
>>280144388
Fast samefag puppet replies. You also got caught posting using a ban evading site while accusing other anons of ban evading.

>>280144414
Yeah, I think same shartyfag (you) is doing LRD's "work" now.

>>280144437
some*