Why isn't straight up sci-fi more common in 2010s and 2020s manga? Is the genre just not that popular in japan anymore compared to JJK/YYH style urban fantasy and RPG-like isekais?

Easier to make a high-school setting #4711, I guess.

>>280155037 (OP)
Dog I am not researching and drawing futuristic shit and mechas just to sell 10k copies if I get lucky

>>280155037 (OP)
Because it requires more world building and little bit of technical know-how. Urban fantasy? Real world with a twist. RPG-like isekai? DQ /Tolken, twist optional.

It's boring shit for cooked boomers

It requires an idea on what to do, and also know what speculation is.
Black Jack fluctuates between being about modern medicine and surgery, to being about speculative surgery. You also need an idea on what the aesthetic is there for if its not speculative, like Alita.

If you want a current take on the hell we are facing in the next century, the speculation award would go to Rainbow's End by that guy who also wrote Stranded in Realtime and A Deepness in the Sky

>>280155037 (OP)
Sci-fi is dead. Kitchen sink slop is all the rage because it's one that the least amount of effort to build.

>>280155037 (OP)
Personally, I think it's because we are already kinda living in "sci-fi" except without any of the actual cool shit like cyborg arms and spaceships but all the gay shit like mega corps. So people are more inclined towards fantasy. I think things will only really change once people are more positive in the future. Like, I bet you there was a massive surge in those stories when man landed on moon.

>>280155037 (OP)
>Is the genre just not that popular in japan anymore
seems to be in general decline the world over

>>280155037 (OP)
>Ultraman
>Gundam
>Godzilla
>Aquarion
>Kamen Rider
Seem SciFi enough to me. And yes, I count stupid over the top S.F in there.

>>280155037 (OP)
Human race obviously has no future and no one wants to hear about some dystopia that the species will die in

>>280155037 (OP)
Scifi as a genre has always been driven by futurists, science fans, technology enthusiasts, etc, people who were reacting to actual real-world scientific developments and projecting based on them. The problem is that there haven't really been many world-changing scientific advancements in a lifetime. Someone born before the airplane could live to see man walk on the moon. Scientific advancements past that point have mostly been niche or impractical technologies along with incremental advances that are largely inscrutable to anyone not specifically educated in that particular field.

The exception here is computers and the internet, which is why they dominated scifi in the 90s and 00s. But even those have stagnated, with the big new topics of the last decade being slightly better cryptography and slightly better procedural generation. Largely, there's nothing for people to care about anymore. The future is boring.

Science has told us that science fiction is impossible.
No meeting green-skinned space babes with flt-capable space ships, no sapient robot waifus that mandatorily pamper us.
All we have is the internet, which is for porn.

Sakamoto Days had quantum theory lately. Lurk more, maggot.

>>280156204
>urban modern japan shounenslop
You don't get the point of this thread

>>280155037 (OP)
Kaijin Fugeki has some sci-fi

>>280155390
>researching
They just draw whatever they want. It's mostly just fiction without the science part. The actual mechanism behind the machines doesn't even cross the author's mind, which in turn means there are no limitations established before. They're just doing whatever looks cool.

>>280155037 (OP)
They had their time with Phantasy Star or this... I have never seen bigger sore losers lmao. I feel 0 sympathy. These fags can't complaining and going 2deep4u.

>>280155266
always this.

Don't forget that Asimov was a biochemist despite writing about positronic brains and psychohistory. Foundation was not based on any science, but a documentary about Rome's downfall.

>>280155266
pretty much nailed it, look at vidya. why make an innovative, interesting game when you can make gachaslop #2137 and rake in milions from coomer whales with no impulse control?
>>280156127
>Scifi as a genre has always been driven by futurists, science fans, technology enthusiasts,
yeah go read Lem's hard scifi and then go read his memoirs/articles. a lot of those hard scifi authors were right about various things that are happening right now with technology

>>280158305
And then you had 2001 Space Odissey and the Planet of the Apes. SciFi is not as rigid as you think it is

>>280155037 (OP)
The only reason anyone gave a fuck about sci-fi was cold war propaganda. Anyone still latching onto that genre is nothing but a brainwashed fool.

>>280155037 (OP)
why is it just a blatant rex ripoff

>>280155037 (OP)
People are sick of tech

>>280155037 (OP)
1. Not an immediately familiar setting like an Urban Fantasy set in Tokyo or a Dragon Quest/DnD style RPG fantasy

2. Often requires lots of machinery like in OP which is murder to draw on a schedule.

>>280155037 (OP)
It’s just not the current fad
Of course, it’s still around and isn’t leaving

>>280156127
I think the flipside of that is seeing how many recent tech advances derive from sociological aspects, like how rideshare app services like uber completely displaced the taxi service as a profession, which in turn changes how society at large views hailing a ride.

>>280155037 (OP)
We're looking down the barrel of hardest sci-fi right now, IRL, counting the spiral grooves.

At some point even Gibson might turn out whimsical and escapist-y.

>>280156127
Do you think something like Appleseed or Five Star Stories would be possible in today's climate of mass produced manga following strict schedules and popularity quotas?

The easier answer is that the current industry isn't going to let nerds who like stuff like that succeed, instead favouring mangaka with stronger artistic skills but probably weaker writing or worldbuilding. It's no longer about telling a story or a world that's been in your head for a long time, it's about achieving mass appeal and making ends meet.

I want more proper sci fi like you wouldn't believe

Sarissa of the Noctilucent Cloud is pretty good. A shame no one will pick it up in English official or fan.

Red Eyes is also nice. Shame it's only fan translated with terrible free scans and a bad translator.

>>280160357
Anon, sci-fi was the quintessential pulp fiction genre. The only thing trashier than it is romance targeted at middle aged white women.

>>280160433
And I forgot to mention the group that was doing Red Eyes has been silent for 4 years.

>>280160357
Also, another thing that's funnily similar to Silicon Valley.

And it's that becoming an animator or a mangaka is alot more popular as a profession nowadays similar to being an entrepeneur. Which is a distinction from someone who wanted to realize an idea and became a entrepeneur because of that, or a somebody who wanted to tell a story and naturally becomes a mangaka because of that.

That's important, because nowadays in silicon valley, the company itself is the product, the product that entrepeneurs continously pitch to VCs for seed funding until they cash out with an IPO or acquisition from big tech. What the company itself does is inconsequential, it is simply a vehicle to keep the company going.

In the same way, the content of a manga today likely dosen't actually matter, because what it really is just a vehicle for modern mangaka to continue their careers, which is the real desire rather than telling interesting stories. The same with animators, where whether an animation piece fits well with the rest of the series matters less than a way for them to flex their skills and probably their CV to future employers. The content matters little, and can be really decided based on following trends and emotional manipulation to attract the greatest number of readers for maximum profit.

>>280155037 (OP)
Sci-Fi has already been explored fully basically... It already has its own meta-concepts to back each genre up. It has never been quite that popular of a genre as a manga either for younger audience and older audience doesn't probably care enough because lack of excitement in future technologies. 80s and 90s had more of a positive outlook to future and its technologies, now we have lived their future and it didn't turn out that great for us huh? Thus we want to escape into fantasy and other forms of escapism that's more closer to home or allows to imagine the impossible rather than what could be. Future is bleak and grim and the trust the science people made the genre have a bitter feel to it after just showcasing how bad it really is.
>>280155729
The act of thinking on anything causation and effect is speculation, in-fact most Sci-Fi/Fantasy was dubbed "Speculative Fiction" in the past for things that took place in other realms or in alternate dimension or in the future.

>>280160477
Sci-Fi is a big genre, you're talking about pulp soft-sci-fi or space operas that's mostly died away in the modern area. In any case, Shirow or Nagano's work are pretty much the opposite of what you might call pulp, Nagano in paticular is the epitome of a primadonna with regards to the sanctity of his works.

>>280160537
>Sci-Fi has already been explored fully basically... It already has its own meta-concepts to back each genre up

Have you read Beatless or some of the works by Project Itoh? That's just one author, but in that alone he's gone further in exploring the consequences of superintelligence on human society than hollywood has done in 15 years. Sci-Fi has it's own problems in myopically following trends for decades like galactic empires.

Imo the next frontier should be more serious explorations of near future societies and their implications. Finance in paticular is quite overlooked, but what Enron was doing with their attempts to securitize bandwidth or the whole ordeal with synthetic CDOs and MBS is treasure trove of interesting ideas to explore.

>>280160571
So is isekai, capeshit or whatever slop gets popular next. It is all the same cheap mass produced entertainment designed to appeal to the lowest common denominator in the least challenging way possible, like sci fi was back in the day. The only reason you think there is any difference in quality is because you are not part of the unwashed masses currently being catered to.

>>280160785
Nobody is that into reading about futuristic tax returns of an automated cyber-future.

>>280160785
Anyone naive enough to think those are interesting ideas worth exploring is too busy losing money on crypto scams and indians pretending to be anime girls to read a book.

>>280156012
Cyberpunk too. Also a bunch of sci-fi merged with slice of life. Shows like My Wife has no Emotions or Apocalypse Hotel are both sci-fi but people like OP don’t register those as such because it lacks giant robots or something.

>>280161351
Cyberpunk is not just about the technology aspect its how the technology is being used to oppress the population and how the lowest fight back (the cyber-punks. As it were.)

>>280155037 (OP)
We just had an anime with robots, spaceships, aliens etc.

>>280161589
Just 1 compared to how many were there in the past in a season before the Light Novel Apocalypse.

>>280161522
It still is sci-fi. Star Trek is sci-fi Robocop is sci-fi. You don’t need FTL spaceships and aliens to have sci-fi

The two most pressing areas of sci-fi speculation in our current age seem to be how technology isolates us (been done to death and /a/ hates Lain) and makes us less human (also been done to death and cyberpunk as a whole is too kino for /a/) so unless someone wants to make the anime version of Jurassic Park it doesn't have many places left to go.
>>280159686
>being this retarded

>>280160906
>being this retarded

>>280161647
Never argued that just the point about how and why of a genre, not all of sci-fi lol. Learn to read.

In the end, we are still getting scifi-shit every season, even if they're not all
>our society but 50 years in the future
It's just that the fans of scifi-shit on /a/ don't watch scifi-shit in the first place.

>>280156190
Green skinned space babes will be here in 10 thousand years even if we have to make them ourselves, trust the plan.

>>280158305
>gachaslop
soulsslop*. Video games are currently plagued by DS clones.

>>280161971
Mobile Market is Gachaslop and Idle Games which have crept into Steam. Parrydodge-Slop is another thing enitrely. The 2010s indie games were all 2D platformers now they are soulslop games, lmao.

>>280161641
Not “just 1”, that was one example of many. With a quick search on a single anime site I found 15 sci-fi anime on 2025 spring vs 13 on 1999 spring. Funny that Gundam is in both.

>>280161739
I’m talking about the anime called Cyberpunk Edge Runners, not the genre. I’m adding a title to the list.

Did you watch Moonrise? I didn't.

>>280156190
We could make robot waifus with current tech if money were put on it. It probably won’t be able to do the groceries and cook us a meal but could cuddle, fuck and be a personal assistant.

Knights of Sidonia (season one only)
Space Battleship Yamato 2199
Space Dandy
Heroic Age (yeah I know you said 2010s-2020s but no one ever mentions this one so I will)

>>280162300
I still remember. But scifi is more than space opera.

>>280155037 (OP)
good science fiction is usually done by people with stem degrees and very few of those people are also good artists. Science fiction is also generally more popular in ages of fast technological progress as it is inspiring to people and we're not in such an age. Most sci-fi anime made recently are based on artificial intelligence as that was to most recent technology that made any sort of impact. Shows like Ai no Idenshi, Amaim, and, Boku no Tsuma wa Kanjou ga Nai come to mind. AI technology is obviously not very popular so I think that is effecting the popularity of these shows exploring AI as a concept as well.

>>280155809
>Sci-fi is dead.
No.

>>280158305
>a lot of those hard scifi authors were right about various things

>Generations accustomed to an honest lifestyle should die out over the next 20 years, and then the greatest catastrophe in history will occur in the form of a widespread technological monoculture, the foundations of which are now being stubbornly implemented in all countries, and even in China, Indonesia and Africa.
>1969

>>280159686
I should have known that H.G. Wells was a CIA plant.

Mechanical Buddy Universe is pretty fun

>>280155037 (OP)
Sci-fi itself hasn't been a popular genre anywhere in the world for decades.
>it takes longer to worldbuild for a sci-fi story
>it takes more technical draftsmanship to draw the machinery in a sci-fi setting
>quality of art schools has gone down and modern young artists don't have the grit necessary to grind the art skills to draw al the shit sci-fi needs
>sci-fi is centered around a curiosity towards the future of technology, something most people are more pessimistic about than anything
>sci-fi baseline doesn't sell well so you have to love the genre to write for it

>>280155037 (OP)
Because drawing mecha is hard as shit.
>>280155266
>My snark totally makes me look so smart and cool, I just knew it. Heh.
Corny.

>>280165919
Some of this would also depends on where the work fall on the scale of Sci-Fi hardness.

>>280164073
>ages of fast technological progress as it is inspiring to people and we're not in such an age
What an incredibly imbecilic take. Holy fuck.

>>280155037 (OP)
Science fiction is about the future, and the future is over

We need them back. We need more light hearted sci-fi instead of serious gloomy settings which threathens all of humanity, boo hoo. Shame Lazarus was tampered by greedy corporate hands otherwise it would've been Space Dandy but new

>>280166737
nta. Technology in our daily lives hasn't changed since 2010, apart from bluetooth earbuds maybe.

>>280167048
And bluetooth earbuds suck

>>280167048
>>280167114
And you're both just as dumb as he is... Do you know how long it took for technology to change people's lives a century ago? Two centuries ago? When most of sci-fi was being written?

Ignoring the fact that human-like robots are hitting the mainstream market starting this year, and that AI capable devices are becoming common-place, you retards have become so used to technological progress, that if you don't see it significantly affect your personal day to day life in a radical way, then it doesn't count to you. Despite the fact that pretty much every tech from short term speculative fiction has become a commonplace item. Despite the fact that MOST technological progress throughout human history was slow, and didn't really affect people's lives during their lifespan, but was rather a generational change.

Meanwhile, we've all lived through at least 4 very disruptive technologies. From the internet, to smartphones, to AI. The world in 1995 is very different to the world today.

To say that
>We are not in an age of fast technological progress right now
That's easily has got to be the most blatantly incorrect and ignorant thing I've ever seen anyone on this board ever say in my 15+ years of browsing this shithole. And that's saying a lot.

Sci-fi boomed when society as a whole was generally optimistic about the future, from around the 1960s to 2010s. Today, this level of optimism is no longer matched so this genre doesn't sell.

>>280155037 (OP)
I miss Heart Gear so much.

>>280167280
My world is literally no different than from 2010 apart from slightly faster internet & bluetooth earbuds. This may come as a shocker to you. But the feeling is the same for most people.

>>280167280
Two more weeks!

>>280167280
I don't think AI is as disruptive as social media was. The fact that no one watches TV anymore, but everyone is addicted to short tiktok videos is a bigger change for society than AI, at least for now.

>>280167290
Pessimism about science and technology following the Renaissance and Scientific Revolution is also what birthed Gothic Horror (see: Frankenstein), which is why Horror, particularly Gothic and especially Cosmic (which is a subgenre of Gothic Horror) is seeing a huge resurgence in popularity.

Also note that a lot of sci-fi WARNED about the dangers of AI (Dune, Asimov, etc....), and now that we're charging headfirst into that, the warnings are starting to seen prophetic. The deal is, there's not much else to say regarding those topics that hasn't been done to death already, with Dune, and Asimov, and Terminator, and the Matrix, etc...

Another thing about sci-fi, is that it's often an extremely spiritual and religiously coded genre, much to people's surprise if they're not familiar with the genre, bit our current society is so detached from any sense of spirituality, it's no wonder the popularity of the genre has decayed in favor of escapist fantasy.

>>280167280
AI is just a nothing meme

>>280155037 (OP)
Scifi is either
Post Apocalyseslop like the anime where the boy is in his sisters body
SpaceOperaslop like Space Dandy
SolarSystemSlop like Gundam
Androidslop like Beatless
Scientistslop like Steins Gate
Dystopiaslop like Psychopass
Virtual Isekaislop like Sword Art Online

>>280167376
And guess what moron, most people didn't see changes in their lifetime after the invention of the printing press, the steam engine, or the car. These things took a long time to penetrate society that progress too generations. Pick up a god-damned history book you brain-rotted zoomer. The pace of progress of the Industrial revolution is a snail's pace compared to the pace of progress we're currently undergoing right now.

You're complaining about not seeing any notable change in your personal life in a 15 year time frame, because you're also too ignorant to look into the changes technology has had at a global and societal level. Meanwhile it took over 50 years for the Steam Engines to start bearing fruit, with life for the average person in the 1700s and the late 1800s largely being the same.

>>280167464
For now. People said the same shit about the internet in 1995, and look where we are now. AI is still in its infancy. It doesn't need to be AGI or whatever to be massively disruptive. Automating most of human life is going to have insane consequences, for better or worse.

>>280167410
Idiot.

>>280167469
>The deal is, there's not much else to say regarding those topics that hasn't been done to death already
thing being done to death doesn't stop tolkien inspired fantasy or DQ inspired isekai

>>280155037 (OP)
For mecha at least, there's a reputation of mecha manga artists and exploding wrists. Guy who was doing Gundam Thunderbolt had his wrists exploded not too long ago.

>>280167599
But you missed the second part of my point. Writing pessimist fiction about a very real future our society is charging into, isn't going to be popular, and ofc people will turn to escapism instead so they don't have to think about that stuff.

>>280167617
They get carpal tunnel?

>>280167464
>>280167497
AI actually feels like it's destroying the usefulness of traditional search engines. The pre-Google web was tricky to use without direct links because search engines had limited practical use. It's starting to feel like we might slide back to that era if AI spam continues shitting up query results.

>>280167376
I think most people would agree it is significantly worse, even if they don't agree on how or why.

>>280167469
It is also worth mentioning a lot of the shit that seems prophetic now was initially meant to be commentary on current events, not predictions for the future. Not only there isn't much else to say regarding those topics that hasn't been done to death already, we have already failed to heed those warnings multiple times. The whole thing is kind of a pointless exercise.

>>280167638
Yeah, it's all the detail necessary for even a single panel. Nowadays a lot of mecha mangaka use CG models if they can.

>>280167280
we simply aren't. Things like the space race, Dolly the cloned sheep, incubation of premature born babies, the discovery of the nuclear power, heart transplants, the rise of commercial airplanes, the internet and portable computers have captured people's imaginations. In the last 20 years the only thing that has come along has been AI and that isn't on the same level for interesting applications.

>>280167727
>Just because I don't keep up with the news about scientific and technological developments, that means that nothing is happening
In the last 10 years we developed a way to 3D print human organs using stem cells, double the lifespan of mice, find out ways we could reverse aging, and developed fully re-usable rockets that dropped the cost of launches to a price where it's viable for smaller companies to launch stuff to space which will open the gateway to space mining operations. Speaking of Gateways, both China, and NASA (Thanks to Trump) have short term plans for Lunar Colonization and mining operations. Also, do you want me to go into Thorium reactors? Yeah, they were researched in the 50s but they're being built now. Also having HD screens that can fit on a headset, Augmented Reality, 5G Networks, etc... etc....

>But muh Bluetooth amirite?
Fucking idiot.

>>280155037 (OP)
because sci fi often devolves into mecha retardation since nips are that autistic
so even if sci if could be fun, I'd much rather see 0 of it and seems many others seem to think the same way since fortunately there isn't much of it, so good riddance fuck mecha and fuck the retards who like it and ruin sci fi with potential
just look at one of the recent isekai with sci fi elements, it's got mecha, and it ruins everything as per usual

>>280167570
Anon, every tech scam in the last decade has claimed to be the next big thing since the internet. I don't care what your waifu spyware told you, AI is not going to cause the rapture.

>>280167851
NFTs are gonna change the planet any second now. Just wait 2 more weeks

I think your answer for why Sci-Fi isn't getting made anymore can be see right ITT. Most people are just too stupid for it, and are arrogant in their ignorance.

>>280167797
those are iterations and gradual progress, not the big dramatic leaps that I mentioned. You can't possibly pretend that better nuclear power and better space travel is on the same level of impact as the first nuclear power usage and the first space travel. You lack the context of where we were coming from and the big impact those technologies had on peoples lives relatively to the small impact all of your examples have.

>>280155037 (OP)
I was going to bring up it looks a lot like a Metal Gear, then I found the image I was thinking of and uh, it's a little closer than I expected.
Like maybe someone should be asking questions close.

>>280156012
>Seem SciFi enough to me. And yes, I count stupid over the top S.F in there
Kamen Rider isn't scifi most of the time.

>>280167797
Funny how most of what describe are either very small incremental improvements on existing technology or vaporware versions of shit that already existed in the 70s. Truly these are exiting times we live in.

>>280167945
You should probably look into how the technologies you're mentioning got developed in the first place.

This is modern education, huh?

>>280167280
Welcome to 4chan. Retards here haven't touched a plate of grass in decades and only get their news from from cracked.com, porn, and foxnews. With the biggest crab bucket mentality known to man. I swear you think this site is overran with a bunch of angry black women.

We've had some pretty amazing technological advancements in the science and technology and the medial field this current decade, especially with all these wars going on.

The real next big thing should be space robots that can space mine some space asteroids so that we can sustain our highly decadent and wasteful living standards.
Anything else is just irrelevant shit nobody cares about despite manufactured hype attempts, except dumb investors looking to be scammed.

>>280167985
you're ignoring the point. There is always promising research going on. Its worldview altering applications which inspire the imagination. Your ego over your personal special interests of study does not change that.

>>280168138
I find that /a/ out of all the boards seems to have the biggest concentration of dunning Krugers. Idk what it is about anime that seems to draw in morons who believe they're a lot smarter than they actually are, and are arrogant about it.

20 more years.

>>280168155
>you're ignoring the point.
Ironic, lmao.
You didn't even bother to do a quick search on how rockets were developed, huh?

Your dumbass seems to be hellbent on insisting on this idiotic fantasy that progress isn't gradual and incremental.
You could just have asked ChatGPT to educate you before making an even bigger idiot out of yourself. You know, that totally irrelevant and useless technology that hasn't impacted our lives at all...

Do you think that suddenly one day, some guy had the idea, "hey, let's make a metal penis and shoot stuff into space!!" And then NASA built it, and it was this magic fantasy like that?

Also, what do you think the next "big leap" after going to space is? To you. Like, what's the next massive revolution you're disappointed hasn't happened? Humanoid robots? We have those now, we've been developing for decades (like we did rockets) and are hitting a major breakthrough now. Flying cars? We have those. Jetpacks? We have them. VR? We have it. We even put a chip in a dudes brain and he was able to operate a computer with his mind. Cybernetic implants? We have those. All of these have had major breakthroughs in the last decade.

Just because YOU don't need a robot arm, doesn't mean the field hasn't been absolutely revolutionary in the past decade.

>>280167966
Kamen Rider is just as sci-fi as most giant robot anime. That is to say, it's not sci-fi at all. Magic belts and magic giant robots all powered by "science."

So, the conclusion of the thread is, that we always have some scifi anime airing each season, and there's some triggered autists yapping around.

>>280168138
nta, but inspiration usually come from new technologies and theories, rarely from advancements/improvements unless those are rather drastic and/or make past predictions obsolete and/or wrong.

>>280167956
Clicked this thread precisely because I thought the thing in the OP image was a Metal Gear.

>>280168299
Most giant robot anime has scifi though - the robots are explicitly machinery and there is usually high tech shit to facilitate that.
Kamen Rider straight up pulls the magic card sometimes for powers, not to mention that most series are just in the modern day on earth.
There are a couple that you could argue are for Kamen Rider, like Drive, Zero-One, Fourze, Kabuto, or even Gaim, but you can't claim something like Agito, OOO, Wizard, Hibiki, or Saber are anything but fantasy.

>>280168287
>Do you think that suddenly one day, some guy had the idea, "hey, let's make a metal penis and shoot stuff into space!!" And then NASA built it, and it was this magic fantasy like that?
NTA but I think the point is about the average person. You go from having planes to suddenly mankind going to space, and it's mind blowing, it's all everyone is gonna talk about. An author is immediately going to want to write about it. To them it might as well have come from nowhere, they didn't pay attention to the intermediate steps. You make incremental progress and an author will probably miss it if they're not paying attention to science news. I guess AI is like that, programmers don't think there is anything special about it, but to the average person it's like we went from facebook to talking computers out of nowhere. The problem here is that AI was already predicted from old sci-fi authors, it's not a novel concept, the novelty is that it seems like fiction became real now to a lay person, but you don't get anything new to write about.

>>280168287
once again ignoring the point and where the whole conversation started. how scientific discoveries are built on the shoulders of giants and the long, slow work and iterations is common knowledge, its not some epic gotcha. People aren't inspired by that. When an achievement happens in one of those fields which people actually care about then more sci-fi writers will start writing about what more could come of it.

I simply had my novel series be alternate history where an alien ship appeared in the year 1985 and advanced technology in the story is reverse-engineered from the alien shipwreck. That way, the setting is modern while only slapping in things you'd see in sci-fi as part of the setting and NOT about them unless the story nears its end.

>>280168336
I think its more that people just aren't exposed to science and technology like they used to be. Movies, books, comics, tv, news stations, etc. all gave even the simplest of people exposure to science and technology because no matter where you looked, science and technology was everywhere to consume. People's interests today has been divided into other things like ecelebs and social media sites that its no wonder people don't know about all the advancements we've made. Science and technology has been purged out of everything.

I also wanna say knowing a bit about engineering also helped made a big impacted on sci-if and being more exposed to machinery in factories either working or seeing parents and grandparents working in them or simply just walking around inside them. A lot of factories had some pretty amazing shit back in the day.

>>280168765
>You go from having planes to suddenly mankind going to space
But that's what happened at all dude.... Holy fuck!

Planes were made in 1903, and had years of development until the were finally commercial ready. Hell, they didn't even make that much of a splash until WWI.

Then, during WWII, faster and faster engines and propeller planes were developed, as aerial combat abd aerial superiority proved to be crucial, especially given the precedent of planes in WWI, so the tech was pushed and researched harder.

This led to Nazi scientists making the first Jet planes, many of which were prototypes, and the same scientific division funded by Hitler during WW2 also developed rockets, as a way to surpass planes. The most famous being the V2 rockets. The tech was not about going to space it was about developing missiles.

Though, the scientists that worked on this theorized it COULD be possible to go to space with rockets. Which was again, built on research for the jet engine. Key point here being incremental, and this was all the way in the 1940, 1945 for some very specific cases in fact, over 40 years AFTER the first planes.

After Germany lost the war, the Allies took up their top secret research, the soviets, in particular took the V2 tech. With again, the purpose of making missiles.

Because the new frontier for war was between USA and Russia, and nuclear tech was developing, it was clear that developing nuclear missiles was key to staying ahead, so research and funding was pushed there. The Russians were the first to succeed in making the rockets, and proved it by launching something into the orbit. This was in the 1950s off the back of research and blueprints that the Nazis had built for decades. So again, gradual progress.

Because the new frontier for war was nice clearly space, USA put NASA into high gear and the space race began.

>>280168765
It might seem shocking and sudden for anyone who doesn't know history, but things didn't magically go from plane to rocket in a sudden leap. It was a gradual half a century long progress until we finally got the conventional rockets of the 1960s.

Which mirrors the exact gradual progress we see now in numerous fields, except things are moving much MUCH faster now.

>>280168797
And what achievement are you looking for exactly here? Multidimensional travel? Is that the only thing that's as big of a leap as launching stuff into space?

The entire point was discrediting the idiotic claim that "we do not live in a period of massive technological progress" when we are in fact living in the period of MOST rapid and exponential technological progress in all of human history, by leaps and bounds. Things have never advanced as fast as they are now, and it's only speeding up even more.

>>280168967
>>280169012
Again, think of the average person. They don't know any of that. They know that their rich friend traveled by plane once, maybe seen planes on TV, they know planes exist even if they've never been in one. Then one day they turn on their TV if they even have one, maybe they get the news through radio or newspapers, hearing that mankind is going to the moon. It's insane. At least that is the feeling I get from hearing from my grandfather for example. Nothing similar has happened in a long time. Maybe a bunch of small discoveries now are paving the way for the day when lay people get surprised by a big advancement that scientists and engineers have seen coming from a mile away. But no author is getting inspired by current mainstream science news.

>>280169012
>It might seem shocking and sudden for anyone who doesn't know history, but things didn't magically go from plane to rocket in a sudden leap. It was a gradual half a century long progress until we finally got the conventional rockets of the 1960s.
I think the point was that people cared more when air travel was new, it declined, then people cared again when space travel was the new thing, then it declined too.

>>280169068
>Again, think of the average person
And what does that have to do with anything? The average person is a moron with an IQ of 110.

That in now way disputes the factual claim that we are currently in a period of the most rapid scientific and technological progress in human history. A brain-rotted zoomer with a midwit IQ doesn't get to dispute fact.

Plus, if your claim is about people writing sci-fi, midwits are also not intelligent enough to be writers either. Especially sci-fi. So who cares what they perceive or not.

The claim that
>People aren't writing sci-fi because we do not live in a period or rapid technological progress
is blatantly false. Because the second part is factually incorrect.
If you want to assert that
>People aren't writing sci-fi because there hasn't been enough scientific discoveries to inspire them
Then that could be explored. But you're creating evidence for a preconceived bias.

First we'd have to assert that
>People aren't writing sci-fi
Is a true statement, and not a biased preconception. There's been plenty of sci-fi over the past few decades. It's just the genre has evolved and mixed with other genres as well. Especially after the popularity of Star Wars.

I think what's more of a true statement is that
>Sci-fi is not as popular in manga as it once was, and that is worth exploring.

But before trying to come up with a reason why, we should first assert what the true statement is. Especially since.
>We don't live in a period of rapid technological and scientific progress
Is a fucking stupid thing to say.

>>280168765
It doesn't help that we are culturally stagnant because pearl clutchers and moralists won't let us do what must be done to advance society and get rid of all the faggots dragging us back down into the mud.
If you know you know.

>>280160537
>The act of thinking on anything causation and effect is speculation
Yes.
But its one thing to take a historical events, file eof the serial numbers, and mix it with another event and tell it well
Add go into actual uncharted territory.
Then again
>Doomposting
>In 2025

>>280156338
your comment proves you don't understand sci-fi at all

>>280156699
What's wrong with Galaxy Fraulein Yuna? It's kino and /a/ doesn't seem to care about it

>>280169459
it's older than the vast majority of anons on 4chan, and thus nobody cares about it.

Just because you don't read, doesn't mean sci-fi isn't being written. There's plenty of new sci-fi coming out all the time. More than ever before, in fact.

>>280161754
I mean we just had Lazarus for fuck's sake

>>280167290
I don't know about this. There has always been an undercurrent of pessimism regarding technological advancement - not so visible in the Golden Age of 20th century sci-fi if you're only looking at American works, but if you read science fiction from other regions that were devastated by world wars or even newly-developed WMDs (Japan, Europe) that made use of emerging technology you will see that pessimism come out front and center.

>>280169501
Then why won't the kids here shut the fuck up about Lucky Star, Lain, Eva, and LOTGH

>>280169755
>Lucky Star
Nobody is talking about it, and at most, you get the deer-tsukasa creepy meme with the capslock cruise control pasta.
>Lain,
Nobody cares
>Eva,
waifuwarring between the same two autists, plus it had like a crapton of sequels that only ended like I dunno, a few years ago
>and LOTGH
had a remake, but nobody is talking about it either.

It's easy to create attractive human design, which isn't the case with mecha

>>280169843
Just make an attractive human pilot.

>>280160537
>we have lived their future and it didn't turn out that great for us huh
people in the 1920 had the exact same feeling about their own time.
>the trust the science people made the genre have a bitter feel to it after just showcasing how bad it really is.
sci-fi has always been bleak genre since inception.
Frankestein, HG Wells,1984.
and in the later half of the century sci-fi has only become bleaker.
I like hopefull sci-fi but i feel is preponderatly the minority position.

Some good posts were made, but largely missing the point of the OP.
tl:dr; the lost decade
Sci-fi is the future; people had hope and optimism for the future. Then... they didn't.
They can't really perceive a positive future on this track, so they start a new track. Poof, you're suddenly in a new world; wow look at all that potential and newness!

>>280170037
If science can't give us greenskinned space babes and robo waifus that can mandatorily pamper us, then we can only rely on elven waifus loving us for a thousand years after our deaths in another world.

I actually don't know why more people aren't interested in sci-fi stories. There's plenty of things you could do with what we predict could happen. Like how about a story about cyber meta humans living on martian colonies for example.

The problem with you anons is that you are asking about a specific type of SF instead of trying out the rest. SF is far more broader than you think, and get mix and matched with other genre since Asimov.
>>280167966
But the OG one were. Up to Kamen Rider X I think.

>>280170357
>But the OG one were
Yes, but I would bet huge amounts of money that most people haven't seen it. Even I am only just now watching it despite having seen all of Heisei and Reiwa mainline stuff barring movies and remakes and stuff. 99% of people who discuss Kamen Rider online have only seen Heisei or Reiwa era stuff, and usually not all of it. Rightfully so that they have only mostly seen Heisei, '71 is barebones as fuck and I'm in the 40's and Reiwa is mostly bad except for the currently airing one and the first one that aired.

>>280155037 (OP)
>>280155680
This.
And besides nowadays we have a lot of technology that in the past, some may have expected it in 2100s.
We have technology, but none of the cool sci-fi shit:
flying cars, robots, space stations with easy transportation to them from Earth, etc.

Besides, sci-fi is stronger kind of escapism from reality.
It's to the future and away from the earth,
but at least escapism to the past, in medieval fantasy, that at least happens in Earth.

Hardcore sci-fi fans are likely to be turbo-faggots.
The kind of men that publicly claim to be feminists,
or the kind that defend women just because they're women
even if they did something bad as a person, and the such.

>>280170678
The little prince is covert sci-fi. He lives on his own planet.
And the author died relatively young, and he was a pilot.
So there's even a symbolism of not touching earth, of not being grounded in reality.

If a guy really likes sci-fi he's highly likely to be immature in general.

>>280168287
They're clearly talking about how those aren't available at a consumer level as old sci fi portrayed it. No one can buy flying cars and jetpack like they can do with EVs and smartphones. If you think otherwise, you're an arrogant idiot obsessed with sniffing your own farts.

>>280155037 (OP)
Yomu Mishima (Otome Mob/Evil Lord) says sci fi is a no sell in Narou.

>>280171405
Idk what this has to do with people not writing sci-fi. I honestly don't know what point you're even trying to make. Most of the stuff featured in sci-fi isn't available to the general public either, and in fact is speculative tech based on scientific theory or futurism, by people who are very interested in those topics.

>>280155037 (OP)
people don't have an apetite for sci-fi things anymore because we ruined our own planet, what's to say for others

>>280172321
>we ruined our own planet
Lol
Lmao even

>>280155037 (OP)
it's less popular than it used to be, but we just had a SF isekai last season

>>280172349
I actually don't know what most people are talking about really. There's been plenty of popular sci-fi that have come out recently. You had Cyberpunk a couple years ago. And the Dune films were the biggest films to come out the years they came out. The Blade Runner sequel was a cult hit. Gundam keeps making shows. It's just never been a particular popular genre overall. Sci-fi has always been niche. However it's always been a genre that blends well with other stuff too, so usually whatever has sci-fi elements often gets classed as Fantasy.

>>280172406
>niche
half of these things were huge blockbuster

Imo that talent went to gaming instead.
Armored Core 6 is great sci-fi and came out two years ago.

>>280172431
I mean the genre as a whole tends to be rather niche. But these all turned out to be massive hits despite that, that's the point I'm making. Idk why OP is pretending like sci-fi isn't getting made.

Hell, Dragonball was sci-fi, but no one ever brings that up.

>>280156127
>The problem is that there haven't really been many world-changing scientific advancements in a lifetime.
Cyberspace, virtual reality, artificial intelligence (computer vision, fighter drones etc)
IRL is practically sci-fi these days.

>>280156127
What a stupid fucking take.

>>280172465
Dragonball was only partly sci-fi though, and most of it had to do with the fact that Akira Toriyama was one of the greatest unsung talents in mechanical art in the manga business. In a better timeline someone would have recognized how fucking awesome his robots and motorcycles looked and hired him to make a pulpy fantasy giant robot anime.

>>280170037
Anon, the entire cyberpunk genre originated out of PESSIMISM over the future. Optimism is not a necessary condition for science fiction to be written. There simply has to be a will to speculate on how technology or science will shape the world, for better or worse.

>>280172756
Aliens, spaceships, robots, androids, impossibly advanced tech, it wasn’t “only partly sci-fi” it is as much sci-fi as Star Wars if not more. Also like Star Wars magical martial arts are stronger than laser guns.
Pokemon and Doraemon are also sci-fi btw.

>>280172603
Two more weeks saar

hmmm, 1990s? :/

>>280168674
>Science Kamen Rider
>No mention of Faiz

>>280161522
Technically the only real definition of Cyberpunk is High Tech/Low Life.
Most of the classical cyberpunk stories weren't even directly about the oppressions and the fight against it, but about how people are trying to eke out a living in a world where "the bad guys already won and this is the norm". Heck, shit like Neuromancer/GitS and other foundational pieces of the genre had protagonists who were complicit in the system or disinterested as long as they could keep on living.

>>280155037 (OP)
Too much bother designing and drawing complex stuff. If you want sci-fi you just read books or VNs.

>>280167376
>My world is literally no different than from 2010
You have to be a Zoomer if you genuinely believe this

>>280172817
Eh, it was explicitly pessimistic but covertly optimistic. There were always "off world colonies" and similar shit, not pure "this is the last gasp of the human species" bleakness which is all anyone can imagine from the future anymore.

>>280168299
By your definition, most sci-fi isn't sci-fi at all. What an insufferable purist. No wonder you don't get pandered to.

>>280170678
>but none of the cool sci-fi shit
>flying cars, robots, space stations
Wrong. The advance in medicine has been enormous. None of that gizmo-gadget shit even compares.

There aren't any cool western sci fi movies for nips to copy.
Most of it is slow burn a24 slop like Arival

>>280174040
>western sci fi movies
Star Wars?
Dune?
Blade Runner?
The Matrix?
Alien?
Back to the Future?
Jurassic Park?
Predator?
The Thing?
Starship Troopers?
Planet of the Apes?

>>280174033
The thing is, he's also wrong as we do have robots, space stations, and flying cars, lmao.

>>280174161
Notice how all of these haven't had anything good twenty years?

>>280174161
The only recent movie on that list is dunc which is basically high fantasy

>>280174432
>>280174528
Is there a rule somewhere that says you can't take inspiration from older movies?

Also, Dune is not high fantasy. You evidently have no idea what words mean.

>>280174554
yeah fent gives you precognition
retard

>>280174554
Yeah it's called market saturation

>>280174675
>fent gives you precognition
Unironically yes

>>280174675
>A psychedelic super drug giving a genetic superhuman the ability to see the future isn't science fiction
Ok retard.

>>280174680
Where's my Matrix manga? Or my Starship Troopers manga?

>>280174675
Fent isn't a psychedelic. But Ayahuasca and LSD allegedly do give you glimpses of the future.

>>280174749
alleged by retards

>>280174764
You ever tried it?

>>280155037 (OP)
cause we're in the future and it's boring as fuck
our mechas are suicide drones

>>280174779
Just wait for the Butlarian Jihad, it gets dope after that.

>>280174773
you ever shoved a loaf of bread up your ass, I heard that lets you repair transmissions. Or are you chicken?

>>280174805
So, are you seriously asserting that unlocking visions of the future through the use of mind altering drugs is totally out of the realm of scientific possibility, that's what you're saying, right?

>>280174833
Yes. It's not only impossible, it's a ridiculous nonsequitur that betrays the gross stupidity of anyone that would even entertain the notion for a moment.

>>280155037 (OP)
You can tell part of it comes to generational differences and artists preferences.
The early anime artists of the late 20 century were more into scifi, space and the later ones of the early 21's are more into rpg, fantasy etc.

>>280174851
Well, that's too bad, because not only does scientific research disagree with you. Experiments were actually conducted by the USA and Russia on this exact topic, AND is the fucking plot of Akira, which is sci-fi, you fucking imbecile.

The Spice in Dune, "the greatest science fiction novel ever written," stops it from being sci-fi, according to you, that means Akira is also no sci-fi.

Classic /a/, proving as always, that anime fans are low IQ dunning Kruger retards. Congratulations.

>>280174913
t. Midwitt
The science in dune is interchangeable with magic it could literally be a fantasy story with no major alterations

>>280175188
>Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic
>Arthur C. Clark
You'd know that, if you know... You read books.

You'd basically have to argue that perceiving the future is a scientific impossibility, but then I'd dare you to argue that point with Quantum Physicists and Albert Einstein. You wouldn't get very far.

Also, the Spice in Dune isn't a natural construct, it's a scientifically engineered bioweapon effectively created for the smoke purpose of expanding mental capabilities. It doesn't just give you future sight. It unlocks genetic memory in the Bene Gesserit, and it gives Mentats the ability to turn their brains into supercomputers.

You'd know that... If you know.... Read books.

>>280155037 (OP)
I really hate these threads, you ask for new sci-fi series when we already have a bunch of untranslated sci-fi manga.

>>280175423
>untranslated
EOP deserve nothing.

>>280175423
This thread has proven that most of /a/ is extremely retarded.

>>280175429
But they're not even getting nothing. I'm following 43 sci-fi series with ongoing translations, I have no idea what the fuck people in this thread are complaining about.

>>280155037 (OP)
Because it's not interesting, and as someone with literally hundreds of gunpla scifi/mecha, fans are so extremely obnoxious I'm no longer willing to watch or discuss anything less than a 10/10 because I don't want to interact with them. Now have fun bumping your retarded thread for 10 days.

>>280175676
>I'm following 43 sci-fi series with ongoing translations
"2 chapters per year" LMAO

Sci-fi is not death.
It's just that the amount of intelligent people has drastically gone down in the past 30 years.

>>280175676
>I'm following 43 sci-fi series with ongoing translations
1 chapter every 3 years, is not "getting translations"

The golden age of sci-fi was fuelled by the anticipation of the future. We ARE living in the future, just a watered down and bland version of it, the kind that moved in a direction barely any major sci-fi writer has managed to foresee. People want escapism, fantasy provides it, sci-fi doesn't. Isekai in particular is a therapy for modern generation.
Writing a sci-fi story requires far more from the writer, unless they dilute sci-fi elements until they are indistinguishable from the fantasy. And sci-fi aesthetics on their own are usually not enough to carry the interest.

sci fi died with mecha

>>280177795
this looks mid 2000s

>>280177840
Japan's perpetual state.

>>280177840
>mid 2000's
>when there's a fucking k-on arcade machine there

>>280177968
in all fairness its pretty low-resolution

>>280178031
yeah if you are a phoneposter

>>280177871
they still use fax machines just because most CEOs are boomers that refuse to modernize

>>280178063
I know. I live in Japan.

>>280178037
Anon...

Sci-fi is dead because real life catches up with predictions within a couple years these days and the more dystopian they are the more accurate they are. Cyberpunk setting is basically the go-to now because it's the only one people will consider somewhat realistic anymore, but at the same time nobody wants to be reminded of the impending shitty future so people avoid the genre. The only thing adjacent to sci-fi that people will care about anymore is space opera, the further removed from reality the better - basically fantasy in space.

>>280177754
>the kind that moved in a direction barely any major sci-fi writer has managed to foresee

something I never understood is why every old-school sci fi writer failed to predict mobile phones despite the fact that walkie talkies were invented in the fucking 40's

>>280177754
>We ARE living in the future
No, its the present dumbass.

>>280178584

>>280178584
Because they were midwits that actually failed to comprehend the world (and refused to acknowledge stuff like ufos)
We are closer to find out how to refresh our dna and achieve biological longevity than being anywhere near true AI and proper space travel, yet in most scifi humans are still shortlived despite mastering cloning and other weird genetic shit and living in realities where ai and space travel are rampant things
Sometimes it's a matter of mental blocks that make people blind to actual achievable stuff
Also most people just write about cool stuff and personal fears and fantasies, they aren't attempting to actually predict the future

>>280170678
Sci-fi is only good for hot girls wearing sexy space suits/plugsuits.

>>280180179
And for hot robot girls.

>>280178584
>something I never understood is why every old-school sci fi writer failed to predict mobile phones despite the fact that walkie talkies were invented in the fucking 40's
Heinlein did that in either Stranger in Strange Land or Space Cadet I don't remember, in the early 40s.
And we had a shitton of people predicting a wireless "telegraph" in the beginning of the 20th century.

>>280178584
>>280180396
Some sociologist author predicted the internet, live streams and even computer neets before WWI.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Machine_Stops

>The story describes a world in which most of the human population has lost the ability to live on the surface of the Earth. Each individual now lives in isolation below ground in a standard room, with all bodily and spiritual needs met by the omnipotent, global Machine. Travel is permitted but is unpopular and rarely necessary. Communication is made via a kind of instant messaging/video conferencing machine with which people conduct their only activity: the sharing of ideas and what passes for knowledge.

You actually have to use your brain to write science fiction or well researched historical fiction.

But 100% anachronistic fantasy europe with magic and elves is super easy, just come up with some dumb isekai formula twist and some harem bitches (don't worry only the first one or two actually matter) and away you go.

>>280180088
let's be realistic, the moment that science finds a way to substantially increase human longevity the process will be rigged to only be available for the ultra wealthy

>>280180469
why wage for 50+ years then retire and die when you can just wage for 5000+ years?

>>280180468
yeah I hate how most fantasy writers don't even bother to learn how medieval feudal societies work and simply copypaste what they see in videogames

>>280180457
There's also Ender's Game which has effectively predicted influencers/bloggers

>>280180469
This is a delusion. Government would fucking KILL for workers who never retire. The second lifespan extension becomes available it's going to become every politician's selling point.

>>280179669
Blade Runner had public phone booths but i's a common headcanon that the government made mobile phones illegal to increase the control over the population

consider how fucked the horror genre (set in present day) is now that everybody has a phone in their pocket.
>yeah but it's a remote cabin in the woods with no cell reception...
new phones are getting satellite comms built in.

>>280180500
>>280180576
Modern workforce's only value is in that they are expendable. There is nothing the wealthy want less than the poor who outnumber them sticking around.

>>280180469
That's for sure
My problem is that we have the technological means to achieve that, yet barely any scifi author makes humanity or even the elites longlived except through weird shenanigans or with messages like "immortality/longevity bad mmkay"
It's a dumb philosophical mental block that shouldn't exist

>>280180576
>>280180500
you'd have to rewrite the economic system to prevent old fucks who've been alive for hundreds of years from owning everything now that they're not bound by death and dividing up their empires between their children.

Imagine the current boomerocracy but times a thousand.

>>280180688
Plentiful, super experienced workforce, no retirement funds and plans whatsoever is a pipe dream of any government. It's going to be impossible to keep something as desirable as life extension in a box to begin with.

>>280180735
>you'd have to rewrite the economic system
At that point, Fedorov's cosmism is what going to happen. Space colonization will become a necessity for people to spread out.

>>280180179
>skintight bodysuit fashion
we can only hope.

>>280180784
lol no the more experience your workforce, the more likely they are to want rights or a decent salary.

>>280180890

>>280181025
And it's far more desirable than pissing money to keep entire generations of useless old farts afloat

>>280180890

>>280180784
>experienced longlived workforce
>government pipe dream
In my experience corpos don't want most of them like that because >>280181025
Corpo and government want people that are just capable enough
Too much experience and they will find excuses to kick you out (fuck you D********) and replace you with a new underpaid young adult
At most they will handpick a very small number of experienced workers to manage the rest of the workers

>>280180502
What would you recommend reading to learn how medeival feudal societies actually work? They don't just lay this shit out on wikipedia.

>steampunk spiderman sci-fi autism

>>280180784
I mean it is possible
It already happened

>>280181255
You're delirious. Governments and corporations have a vested interest in a healthier, longer-working population to boost GDP and tax revenue. The entire fucking world, including third world shitholes, pushes for healthier population and starts outlawing bad habits like smoking because of it.
Now, initial ACCESS to life extension may benefit mostly the rich, but that shit will hit the open markets in no time.

>>280181377
>Governments and corporations have a vested interest in a healthier, longer-working population to boost GDP and tax revenue
Wrong, they have a vested interest in increasing their paycheck till they retire, and this to everything in their power to increase the bottom line before they cash out
>but wouldn't that fuck them over too in the long run?
Yes, but they're too short sighted to realise that

Most new tech is being blatantly advertised at how it will make people lose their jobs. I'm not surprised less people are interested in sci-fi, which was always a niche genre to begin with. Even then you still get a few coming out
>>280181522
It's always surprising to see people think owners think long-term. They don't care about the future. At all. Even for their own progeny

>>280181377
>Governments and corporations have a vested interest in a healthier, longer-working population to boost GDP and tax revenue.
Imagine being this naive. The economy runs on short term profit and infinite growth. This is only possible with an expendable workforce.

Manga when?Also any more manga with aliens visiting Earth?
I know oh my sweet alien

>>280181309
>tfw even if it was possible to build such a thing IRL 99% of people would splatter themselves using it

>>280180594
ironic considering mobile phone is literally a spying device

>>280181601
>Most new tech is being blatantly advertised at how it will make people lose their jobs.
Well duh people should work less, only when they want to ideally. Oh wait that's communism.

>>280155037 (OP)
The sci-fi is "dying" because (((someone))) is desperate at trying to eliminate entire intellectual hierarchy trough out the world.

There is simply less "people" who can recognise same qualities which your parents still could.
Sci-fi isn't "dying", "getting stale" or getting dumber. The readers are.
Soon there won't be any other genere then porn, and porn. (Something that doesn't operate on anything but primal instinct in order to be digested. It's so, that the use of intellect, isn't just unneeded, but alas an active hinderence in order grasp schlock present in sight of your vision. All of those trashy manga look exactly the same word for word, line by line, as their readers began losing patter recognition ability).*
And it's not because of da "times" or ze "society".*
It is a fully intentional development on the part of our most kindly and beloved.

In fact it is fucking terrifying, but who cares right :) :) :()) I shell read p0rn and I shell like it :)

*Dialogues part of the spoiler tag are not part of topic, but are still true never the less. They are not necessary to the context of conversation.

The thing that I really hate about the future is that it will be inherited by the kind of people that can continue to live in it.

>>280178584
Hyperion(1989) has personal devices with interplanetary internet.

>>280184099
>sci isnt getting dumber, the readers are
best post in this thread

>>280173804
There are tons for both genres, 5 each is enough to make a point.

>>280155037 (OP)
cant relate to it if theres no rpg level up mechanics

>>280180457
i remember reading book from like 1910 and guy was telegramming with some chick from other place but kept suspecting it was a demon that wanted him to come out his safehouse
trolling since 1910

>>280155037 (OP)
Sci-fi is always the same thing, isekai at least try new things.

>>280185126
>isekai at least try new things.

>>280178584
>failed to predict
there are 100yo stories about mobile phones. They just make SF story less engaging. Same as videocameras on spaceships.

>>280185126
"I became a vending machine in a fantasy world" isn't trying new things and isekai has a bad habit of just being self-insert wishfulfilment nonsense that people have a meltdown when the MC gets offed like the retard he is.

>>280184883
these thots is treacherous
seriously, what you're describing is an archetypical story that was probably being retold since our caveman days
Grug and Ug probably sat around the fire telling the myth of how Ur'Gogg was being tempted out of his cave by a sorceress speaking to him with an animal familiar

>>280186123
It reminds me of an egyptian myth of the tale of two brothers. The brothers are references to egyptian gods. The wife of one of the brothers causes mischief between them. She wanted to fuck the other brother but he declined and then she claimed that he raped her.
The other brother did everything to solve the conflict with his brother and the brother without a wife ended up being castrated but the two brothers reconciled. The Gods had pity with the castrated brother and creared a wife for him out of clay. When the pharaoh came and was interested in the wife of the castrated brother and wanted to marry her. The wife helps them in crearing a plot to kill her husband. He is killed, the wife becomes the pharaoh's wife but his brother revives him in the form of the bull. He gets killed but he is revived again by the brother until he becomes a tree. Then when the tree gets destroyed one of the splinters get into the wife's mouth impregnates her and he becomes reincarnated as her son and becomes the pharaoh later. He orders to kill her and declares his brother to be his successor.

>>280187521
What is the moral of this story...?

>>280187634
I think it is bros (literal brothers in the story) before hoes before even 1000 BC.

>>280187521
there's 1001 night story about 2 brothers. One gets cucked by his wife and black slave anв gets megasad so he goes to his bro palace and sees his bro's wife with black guy too so it cheers him up a bit. 2 brothers decide to travel to calm down after killing slaves and women and they walk into mighty jin and his wife he keeps in iron box on his necklace. When jin gets sleepy wife gets out and has sex with them both. In the end they decide women get what they want even if you are a fuckin jin and keep your wife in a box on your neck so there is no reason to be so depressed it's just life.

>>280187521
>>280188036
Holy fucking ESL, batman!