Kazuya just got rejected by Chizuru 11 times in the same chapter. Eleven times, twelve in likely the same hour. And refuse to stop chasing after her. This chapter chapter solidified Chorizo and Kazuya as the worst couple I have ever seen in all of manga, all of manga, all of it, and every piece if japanese animation. That is not an exaggeration.

>>280160239 (OP)
Reiji's homie is hinting st a definite severance happening tho

>>280160239 (OP)
has it been dumped yet?

>>280160239 (OP)
It's hard to take her seriously when she's got her arms and legs fully wrapped around you.

>>280160239 (OP)

>>280163077
She sees him as a nice guy, he might as well not have a dick for all she cares

>>280160239 (OP)
In that world, "no" is up for debate.

when a woman says no it's actually yes

>>280160239 (OP)
La Puta

>>280163493
based

>>280162974
Dumpu is here hidden within anime stuff >>280148347 >>280149170
Manga should probably get a thread proper but who honestly gives a shit about this series?

Is this one of those manga in which all the women want nothing more than to get a boyfriend and fuck him but the plot pulls every contrivance and bullshit excuse for why they can’t have that? Like, do they get dressed up to go on a date ever day knowing they’ll probably get cucked or cockblocked by some bullshit but can’t even imagine doing anything else with their lives so all they can do is suffer endlessly? Do the guys ever just smile and gratefully accept the desperate advances or is that against the rules?

>>280163670
No it's Twilight for weeb dudes.

>>280162974
i'll dump it here for you

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>>280164535
383 end

>>280164429
>their second date

>No.

>>280164545
>I love him because he smells like my grandpa

>>280164545
the moral of the story is not to accept no for an answer

>>280164545
mmmm old man sweat

>>280164886
>>280165200
is it really that easy?
how do I get girls to smell my neck?

>>280164503
nevar forget

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>>280164545
LMAOOOOO

she deserves to get cucked, hard. wtf is this shit?

>>280164478
No fucking way he'll be waiting 20 years

this is levels of simping that should be forbidden by law

>I suddenly remembered that a person's scent was strongest around their scalp. Such a random thought popped into my head... and I... nudged my face slightly into his back. When I did... it smelled like Grandpa, just a little bit.
heh...

>>280165630
cucking what exactly?
she only loves herself and it's pretty evident by the way she behaves

>>280161152
>a scolding from his mother
ok, that's pretty fucking funny,

>>280164482
>I DON'T WANT THAT! ME LOVING ANOTHER WOMAN!? I WANT TO KEEP LOVING MIZUHARA! FOR A LIFETIME AT LEAST

>>280164454

>>280165630
>wtf is this shit?
Something she should've done long time ago. It was unfair to even pretend to give him hope.

>you're not allowed to love me because I've been awful to you and only caused problems
>I will reject you because I don't understand my own feelings and you deserve full commitment without uncertainty
>even though it hurts
>I care about you so much I put your feelings over my own
Damn, she REALLY loves him a lot. I wasn't sure before but this chapter all but confirmed it.

Reject simping, cuckoldry, thots, and paying for love

Embrace self improvement, monogamy, tomboys, and marriage

>>280169462
How come Ribbons is always the worst girl?

>>280163304
Chizuru should just fuck Umi so Kazuya finally gives up and ropes.

seriously fuck this chapter fuck this faggot mc fuck that aspergers emotional retard call girl

the stupid haters on this incel board and all of social media are LAUGHING at us and making us look like IDIOTS for reading this crap


FUCK

>>280169581
>he's making you go on a date in exchange for a retweet?
She already hates that guy, but maybe this is Kibe's chance.

>>280168431
lel

>>280169600
It goes to show how hard people project their own failed relationship experience and bitter heartbreak onto this story expecting that it should be the way to build the characters, but this manga has never been about showing that. It's to prove that simps are better than all of us, because they are the last remnants of gallantry and unwavering determinism in this unjust and cruel world.
Kazuya may a faggot but he's not a retarded blind lover, he's knows exactly what's around him and the signs Chizuru has been showing him, but for stringing Ruka along in the same vein, he is absolute vile scum.

>>280164545
cute

>>280169609
>She already hates that guy
That's a good thing though, needs just a little push into a good hatefuck

>>280163077
>It's hard to take her seriously when she's got her arms and legs fully wrapped around you.
He just has to turn himself around and he's basically in a prime sex position with Chizuru

>>280163475
This. Especially if she repeats herself like this. She is practically begging him to ignore whatever she's saying and making the first move. This is not shitposting btw.
Women really are like this and they are unable to explain why.

>>280164545
We need Mami or Mini to step in and steal him away. She won't do shit as long as he's available.

>>280169549
Ruka is best girl however

>>280169549
She is the best.

>>280170057
>Kazuya may a faggot but he's not a retarded blind lover, he's knows exactly what's around him and the signs Chizuru has been showing him
I bet all the stalkers think the same.

>>280170410
He did stalk her, and she just thanked him because it was hot.

>>280170183
>Especially if she repeats herself like this.
Definitely here.

>>280170410
It's easy to get Kazuya off her trail she could just kick him out of out the house, off Diamond, and start fucking Yudai in front of him. Oh...

>>280170520
She could have ghosted him or rejected him.

>>280170520
>It's easy to get Kazuya off her trail
Might not even work then so last option is if the state executes him

>>280170585
She let him go, and he came back because it's real love.

>>280170607
the ride never ends

>>280164454
This guy needs to pump one out, go party a weekend with the bros, get shitfaced and fuck at least one girl. Better 2.
He'll forget about Mizuhara the very next day.

Always remember bros: Oneitis is curable

>>280170641
Would be the worst and most boring isekai on the market by far. And the competition for the worst isekai is pretty fierce.

>>280170708
The next scene a slime dissolves her clothes. By all means keep your opinion, if you are a fag.

Why doesn't Niwatori show a random run-in or something interesting happening to crash the date? He lost his melodrama capabilities from earlier episodes and can no longer draw more than 2 mental deficiencies?

>>280170884
You need to recalibrate your bot.

>>280170884
>Why doesn't Niwatori show something interesting happening
I keep repeating it, but the truth is the story ended with Hawaiians, everything since that was him prolonging the story for no apparent reason(money). Absolutely nothing worthwhile happened through the entire cohabitation, you can skip everything from him going NEET mode to this moment and you'd miss nothing. The story is going on sheer inertia and as long Kodansha lets Reiji draw his waifu, that's what he'll do.

>>280170982
Nah I just figured if there was a purpose to him foreshadowing her friends or something.

>>280171018
>you can skip all of the best parts

>>280171040
As the author, in these scenes I am showing that she doesn't have friends. The closest person to a friend she has is Sumi, and even there she completely forgot about their plans because they really are not friends either.

>>280170884
They actually might have seen her on the date, maybe.

>>280171040
Chizuru doesn't have friends. To Chizuru acting is her whole life, Kazuya and her feelings for him are a distraction, so she won't have a boyfriend either.

>>280170057
Ruka a shit

>>280171128
That's just Reiji reusing a design, Chizuru's college "friend" isn't an actress.
This couple even showed up in the new episode of the anime.

It's such a shame guys. The paneling is so good. It's got nice offscreen dialogue mixed in with monologue.

>>280169137
Yes, shitposting aside Kazuya just needs to help her stop being so stubborn

>>280171215
Yeah I'm not talking about the actors. This date happened during Chizurus date, they could have seen each other.

>>280171199
No she fucking isn't, asshole

>>280165494
ask your grandpa for his bath water and spray it like perfume.

>>280171355
She's evil, I'm waiting for the breakup arc where Ruka finally apologises for her behaviour and humbly bows out of this story

>>280171355
I hate her

>>280170727
>naked Chizuru sexooooo!!!
No. This whore actually managed to make me lose all lust and desire over her prime body. Cardboard is more arousing to me at this point.

>>280171129
>To Chizuru acting is her whole life
Why is she so bad at it then?

>>280171600
>prime body
You might as well be her since you can't even be honest with yourself.

>>280171626
>so bad
All the industry experts have said otherwise.

>>280160239 (OP)
I thought the ending was already spoiled

>>280171658
That's not bad for AI generation.

>>280170625
>She let him go, and he came back because it's real love.
That's beautiful. Surely they get together now and we are in the endtimes.

>>280171626
She isn't exactly bad per se, she just isn't putting the necessary work to put herself out there. She just expects she'll get a role just because she is her. There are thousands if not more girls like her.

>>280171852
and her colleagues see her for what she is

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>>280171902
that being said her acting skills are real

>>280171852
>necessary work
>all those auditions don't count
>what I really mean is she isn't sucking enough dick
This guy is just trolling

>>280171944
Yeah he's too obvious.
They always show her scripts with a million earmarks and footnotes, to explicitly show the work she is putting in.

>>280171944
>what I really mean is she isn't sucking enough dick
yes among other things

>>280172086
>yes I am trolling
cool story fag

>>280171444
She isn't fucking evil
>>280171453
How could anyone hate such a devoted, loving girl?

>>280164545
as soon as they reach her front door, she'll jump at his lips and they'll smooch like never before

>>280169137
Kek...
She was honeat about not loving him and is seeing how far can Kazuya go tp self destruct himself for someone like her.
She'll use the ticket to release and demand him to stop loving her, next day, Kazuya will go to his family to tell them the truth, handle the ring and face the music.

Simple as.
If Chizuru won't give up on rejecting Kazuya and Kazuya doesn't want to give up on Chizuru, then Ruka won't give up on Kazuya too.

It's going to be a neverending cycle.

>>280161152
>face the music

>>280172991
Ruka already gave up, multiple times, and the biggest one was when she could have fucked her supposed love and chose to run away instead.

>>280164545
If you ever feel sad, you are down on your luck and feel like there is no hope or goodness in the world anymore, just keep in mind that one day this endless rug-pulling crap will end, it will be over someday, and the world will be a bit better for it.

soon

>>280164482
This is so fucking cringy because it's realistic that a spineless faggot would say that. What is not realistic is that he probably has a shot with the whore hy speweing this mellifluous bs since he's the MC

>>280173024
Dunno which mamga are you reading. She didn't and won't give up on him.
>>280173038
It will be an unfinished .pptx for sure.

>>280173079
Already did.

>>280169137
Yeah, she's being a fucking idiot. Her reasons for rejecting him are dumb excuses and senseless fears. Kazuya needs to discuss stuff with her

No means no what part of that is hard to understand? It’s time to stop.

>>280164545
no means yes

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>>280172086

>has to talk to himself
just like real life

>>280171944
>what I really mean is she isn't sucking enough dick

>>280173104
>Kazuya needs to discuss stuff with her
That's the issue. They won't discuss, but Chizuru will see the condom and finally place 2 and 2 on why Kazuya is behaving that stubbornly. Then gonna take advantage of his weakness and give him what he wants (sex) without even give explanations, by the next day, she'll go to the bank, refund Kazuya and then use the ticket to cut him off. Kazuya will definitely move to his new flat and next sunday, he'll go to his family to tell mom the news and return the ring, he'll get scolded by his mom.

>>280173136
No is no, how many times shall anons twll you to fucking understand.

>ticket
the trolling is too obvious you gotta mix it up

>>280173095
Seriously? Because he went to a "date" with her (the credit card one) where she showed herself to have grown comfy as a supposed girlfriend and next week after Chizuru's date he'll go to a date with her at round1.
Let's not forget a single GRVKE, Kazuya and her were still going to dates during the cohab.

You are just getting desperate.

>>280173241
The ticket will be a request to leave her alone in peace so she can finally have a chance to win her real love Umi. It’s too obvious.

There is no point, no one is taking you seriously.

>>280173241
>trolling
that was Reiji with the damn ring

You can spam all you want it's not going to help.

latest cover

>>280160239 (OP)
>Mizuhara
This faggot deserves to get cucked

>>280173388
and officially Reiji is out of ideas or doesn't give a shit anymore and starts repeating outfits

>>280173388
>She's going to the bank
It's so kazuwari da.

>>280173398
And yet he won’t stop. Not until it’s made crystal clear he doesn’t have a chance because otherwise Mizuhara will keep throwing just enough crumbs to keep him going. For everyone’s sanity and future happiness it needs to end. Now. Before more unnecessary tragedy takes place.

>>280173070
Bitch, for a guy who’s kept it cool and been utterly trapped in his own head it took pretty humongous balls to admit that to her. All he has to do is say her name and she’ll become a waterslide.

my wife can't be this cute

>>280164545
If this had happened 200 chapters ago it would've been cute, but it's just miserable now. She's been running away for so long and the only reason they're even still interacting is because of an earthquake and Mini ex machina. Now I'm supposed to believe she's realized how profoundly of a negative effect she's had on him >>280164445 after draining him of his finances for years and ghosting him out of nowhere.

Chizuru quitting her rental gig should be the bare minimum for this arc to have any miniscule amount of impact. The fact that the story is pretending she cares about him so much is hilarious when you remember she's choosing dating randos over giving this poor simp a chance.

>>280173570
She could have kept her rental job and had a boyfriend as long as he was understanding. There was one such guy right there. Putting her job first was nothing but an excuse to not have one. Or maybe she’s still hiding her real boyfriend somewhere and never mentioned him up to now.

>>280173570
>she's choosing dating randos
Yes and she loves it

>>280173677
soon this be about Kazuya

>>280164445
The irony the chizuru is actually the proxy for anons who hate chizuru

>>280173570
>a girl who obviously cares for the dude but is a mess herself should have sorted herself out xxx chapters ago
And who made you the supreme judge and jury on narrative media, shithead?

>>280164639

Clown Manga
Clown Protagonists
Clown World

>>280173729
I did, you overly combative faggot. The manga has been going on for 8 years, and this particular "I don't understand my feelings" excuse has been in use for what, almost 3 years now? How much narrative edging with no payoff are you willing to take?

Holy kek, nips are saying Kazuya's persistence is creepy and scary, and that he isn't that different from Ruka in that aspect.
>(#19)
Can I keep liking you? Gross.
>(#22)
Kazuya is trying his best. I think he's pretty cool. I really want him to achieve his goal, but I want Chizuru to be unhappy too.
>(#31)
:pedobear_emoji: He's trying to make the readers laugh by saying it smelled like grandpa lol and Kazuya is too much of a pain in the ass. Is this author a virgin?
>(#32)
The interaction between the two of them this week was pretty difficult
>(#34)
Can't they write Chizuru as a more traditional heroine? Even though she knows she likes him, she says she "can't answer her feelings" and is just a bothersome woman. Also, Kazuya should stop making funny faces at times like this. If he hadn't made funny faces, it would have been cool to see them confessing their true feelings to each other...
>(#35)
Sorry, just the tip is fine
No
Sorry, just the tip is fine
No
Even if you keep showing me standard jokes like this...
>(#40)
The conversation was so gross I laughed. This time it was funny so I'll forgive it.
>(#43)
If Kasu's still going on like this after being dumped, I'd change my mind if he cut ties with Ruka, but I don't think he'll do that. He'll just keep on holding on to her while grinning.
>(#44)
Eh, but isn't Kuzu being scary?

That's too much of a stalker behavior.
>(#45)
I rejected him
But I still love him and I'm following him
I can't push him away
Huh? Is this the same reason why Kuzu can't break up with Ruka, but this time the other way around from Zuru?
>(#46)
A woman stalking a man who stalks a prostitute. It's got to be a nice boat ending.
>(#59)
Grandpa's smell is hilarious It just sounds like an insult lol
>(#60)
As usual, the content of each episode is pretty empty, with two pages being used for backgrounds drawn by assistants and close-ups being used to fill in the frames.
(1/2)

I wish this had better girls. Most of them are pretty but have the personality of a garbage can.

>>280173826
>nips are saying Kazuya's persistence is creepy and scary,
because it is, she'll think back to what Mami told him about Kazuya and reconsider her warning about Kazuya being a stalker, she'll block him from the app and use the ticket to tell him to fuck off

>and that he isn't that different from Ruka in that aspect.
Yes and it always was the case, the cognitive dissonance of Kazuya x Chizu shippers is amazing: If Kazuya is supposed to be rewarded for being a stubborn buffoon so should Ruka, but obviously Ruka is the bad one, but Simpy McCuck is the good one.

>>280169549
The more ribbons the worse they are!

>>280173826
>(#63, rep. to #59)
If that scum smokes, there'll be cigarette smell, perfume smell, and other things too. Old man smell lol. Is this a heart-melting phrase the author was told by his rental girlfriend?
>(#69)
For some reason, Umi-kun helped her out during crowdfunding. This time he ran into Zuru who had walked from Odaiba. Things are always so sudden.
>(#51)
Mizuhara's "no" is more affectionate than ever, which makes me feel bittersweet. She doesn't really push him away, and deep down she wants to entrust herself to him, but she can't because she cares about Kazuya's future. She feels guilty and rushes to give him an answer, but it's heartbreaking to see Mizuhara's conflict as she doesn't want to become a procrastination woman. She probably felt relieved when she smelled Kazuya's grandfather because Kazuya's kindness and reliability overlapped with her memory of her grandfather. (Picrel)
Just changing "I'll look into it" to "I might like it" is enough to make progress.
The structure of Mizuhara refusing and Kazuya not backing down is similar to Kazuya and Ruka's relationship, so it's still a long-term battle.
Kazuya's attempt to get Ruka to give up would be even more difficult because it would mean denying himself for continuing to pursue Mizuhara.
When it comes to the duplicate key, does that mean returning the borrowed key and ending your cohabitation? If he gives her the duplicate key to the new house, Mizuhara's "no" will become meaningless.

(2/2)
Mostly jokes about that "grandpa's scent" line (they think it's an insult), nips disapproving and getting the icks from Kazuya's stubborness (the softest claims being him being a creep and a shitsukoi) and realizing this will only give Ruka more power, even from the most fanatic zurufags, they think this will only make Kazuya's attempts at breaking up with Ruka more difficult, even probably reach an ironic conclusion, because Kazuya's own growth and needs are being held back by his obsessive feelings.

>>280173808
She simply had to measure mc’s balls first. None of the dudes that asked her out or approached her in high school ever came back to her. None of the dudes that rented her wanted more from her. She didn’t even reject them technically. Unironically Kazuya’s persistence is what got her interested, it’s an honest-to-god and genuine woman moment as sickening as it might sound.
Also I’m only here since 310 anyway why do I care how long ago it started?

>>280173999
I think it’s too convenient her connections in school just went away. A social butterfly type like her would want to keep in touch with her friends and past admirers. Not all of them but at the very least the ones she was close to if she could. Her phone book is immense.

>>280174061
>Her phone book is immense.
not really

>>280173826
>>(#46)
>A woman stalking a man who stalks a prostitute. It's got to be a nice boat ending.
School Days please

>>280164545
I unironically wouldve like this development for a difrerent romance manga with less chapters.

>>280174081
yeah really
there was a panel showing all those contacts she had somewhere. All those random people we never get to see her talk to are there.

>>280173999
Look, I understand what you're saying and I even somewhat agree. I've had similar frustrations with female characters from other manga. And yeah, I know it's fiction, but I still feel like it needs to be at least based in reality for me to find any of these developments satisfying or real. Chizuru having a perpetual woman moment just isn't doing that for me. The only reason Kazuya and Chizuru's relationship looks cute is because the author keeps framing it as such, but in any other manga he would've just been a stalker by now and she would've been the antagonist who keeps stringing him along while he has another girl (or several) who really do love him.

And as for the length of the manga, I've been following it since 2022, and I didn't really care about the stretching either at that time. Just wait until we reach 600 chapters and the same story beats keep getting repeated over and over again, and the two of them are still not together, exclusively because of Chizuru. I guarantee you you'll also start losing it. I shouldn't have to explain why a story going on forever is bad writing. Why does any story end if it can just keep going forever?

>>280173570
This is why i think she'll ultimately resort to cut him off from her life, then regret it after seeing Kazuya with the other girls and trying to give a time for himself, realizing what she gave up. Everything happening from now on is gonna be an irony. Ruka may end getting Kazuya, Kazuya, a girlfriend and Chizuru her career, but no one of them will get satisfied, neither happy with their situation.

>>280174192
The manga certainly needs to end soon, we all want out. A real last 10 announcement would be a Christmas miracle.

>>280174192
>Why does any story end if it can just keep going forever?
Money that’s why. The people asking the author for more Kanokari see nothing but yen signs so they request he stretch this as far as possible and that’s why you see tons of manga with a similar willthey/won’tthey plot with lots of misunderstandings and lose of quality across the board.

>>280174229
>This is why i think she'll ultimately resort to cut him off from her life
She'll ask Mami for help and she'll get it.
Remember: Mami is always right.
You only hate her because you want Kuzuya to succeed.

>>280174318

>>280174229
You're actually retarded if you think they're not going to end up together

>>280174330

>>280174227
If Ruka could fall in love just like that it implies something is wrong with Mizuhara mentally to only have maybe feelings after being courted for so long.

>>280174345

>>280174061
She wasn't a social butterfly, speed reader-kun. She was shy and withdrawn. Even in college she doesn't have any close friends except, ironically, kazuya

>>280174342
nta but I must be because that’s exactly what I think. And I don’t think she deserves the win. She hasn’t earned it.

>>280174229
Don't get your hopes up for anything interesting to happen. She's already ghosted him once and barely gave a fuck. They'll come to some sort of understanding, and based on this chapter, it's probably going to be "I'll keep loving you even if you refuse". Maybe he keeps living with her, maybe he moves out. Either way, they keep interacting as friends from now on. Kazuya keeps chasing the dragon until the next arc where it seems like something will happen.

I expect the following arcs to probably revolve around Mami/Ruka. That's an easy 200 chapters right there. Fuck it, throw in a Mini arc as well for another 50 chapters, as we all collectively forget that Sumi even exists.

>>280174364
Umi is her close friend did you conveniently forget about that?

>>280173938
>because it is
And it's dangerous, I'm sure real rental girlfriends don't like that the manga is telling stalkers to annoy them.

>Soon

Retards unironically expect Chizuru to act like her version from Kazuya's rental delusions. Amazing.

>>280174480
Where she falls in love with him in 2 pages.

I hate it. Chizuru needs a time-out before this reaches any sort of conclusion. The ghosting was a good idea but it was done at the wrong time. She should have started after finishing an investigation date not before.

>>280174480
>>280174489
>retards really expect a girl who loves a guy to act like she loves him

>>280174342
And that's the worst thing. I know they, somehow and in questionable circumstances, are gonna end together by the end of this manga.

But still think there will be a separation arc and the other girls will somehow take the lead. Simply because Kazuya, by keeping pursuing Mizuhara, was rejecting the most important person in his story: himself. If his growth implies accepting he was halfhearted about breaking up with Ruka because he somehow sees her as a viable option and the only reason he didn't consider the possibility of rebounding was because of denying his own needs, or if he goes through a remember & redo phase with Mami because of those needs, then he'll have to have those moments of weakness before coming to terms with himself. Same for Chizuru, they have to reach a low point as people before coming clear with each other.

>>280174452
>I'm sure real rental girlfriends don't like that the manga is telling stalkers to annoy them.
I’m sure they wouldn’t like the manga telling them they’re whores for putting their lips on their clients either.

>>280174527
I think it would help if Chizuru would date other people for real. It doesn’t have to be Umi just someone she can connect with on a personal level at least once. Kazuya too. Maybe giving him a break from those rental delusions is what he really needs not a 10/10 girlfriend.

>>280174598
>I think it would help if Chizuru would date other people for real.
That would undermine everything the manga did up until now, because it would show she actually can fall in love and it's only Kazuya she doesn't like that way. I can imagine her faking(ironic) a relationship to push Kazuya away, but actually dating someone after this would just mean Kazuya wasn't the right one.

>>280174565
That's fine because it was the antagonist who said that.

>>280174425
>Maybe he keeps living with her, maybe he moves out.
He's moving out and gonna be blocked by her "for his own sake" and seemingly gonna get released from having to prove he isn't a loser by his family.
>Either way, they keep interacting as friends from now on.
They'll get estranged and each one will focus in their respective futures and side relationships (have this tingling feeling Kazuya's gonna do his internship either at the Nanamis or at his grandma's konbini). Expect something happening only when he rents her once again. Basically another "last rental date, i swear this is the final one" where Chizuru's resolve starts to falter and leave hints about her wanting to be taken out of the path she took because she can't alone. Hints he won't pick up at first. But after giving a second thought, and after some self realization, that will be enough for him to try once again, but this time, fully aware this is what he wants, not because of some childish whim or need for approval from peers.

Before they end together for real, a self discovery trip that implies havjng to explore each one's wants and needs by tearing them apart must be needed.
>I expect the following arcs to probably revolve around Mami/Ruka.
Yeah, both represent sides from Kazuya he is running away from. Eventually he has to face the fact he didn't fully get over Mami and used Chizuru to run away from her, and if he didn't properly break up with Ruka is because he somehow feels he can be with her if things with Chizuru go down the shitter.
Personally imo, Mami has an edge on this simply because of being the ex and would probably help Kazuya to get an internship as a way to distract his mind from going back to Mizuhara. And she has the key to make Ruka give up.

>>280174429
Do you have any page where Chizuru refers to Umi as a friend anon? Because she does think of Sumi and her college classmates as friends (I don't remember her ever calling Kazuya a friend though)

>>280174781
I don't think Chizuru ever did, she only talked him as a classmate. The manga did though.

>>280174698
>That would undermine everything the manga did up until now, because it would show she actually can fall in love and it's only Kazuya she doesn't like that way. I can imagine her faking(ironic) a relationship to push Kazuya away, but actually dating someone after this would just mean Kazuya wasn't the right one.
No. Self discovery would reinforce their feelings by the end. Each one finally has a time for each one's self, one is rental dating, accepting compensated dates from her colleagues in exchange of roles and climbing as an actress, the other is finally taking the reins of his own life and letting himself satisfy the needs he rejected for almost 2 years. Things will seemingly look well...

Except they won't and they'll find out something is very wrong... as if something is lacking in their lives. Maybe Kazuya will engage into a fistfight with Kibe where he'll finally get the answer to that emptiness, same for Chizuru. Losing a casting against Miho and feeling the lack of support/lustful atmosphere from colleagues or realizing Umi's scalp "doesn't smell like grandpa's" and/or getting kindly scolded by Sumi of all people is gonna make her realize what's missing on her life.
Fate (AKA granny collapsing and thinking she won't make it) is what is gonna reunite them.

>>280173938
>but obviously Ruka is the bad one
What's funnier is that often Ruka is justified or at least really tamed down like the blackmail, meanwhile Kazuya does far worse things like stalking his crush or overhearing her conversations on purpose but he gets away with it not only in the manga but also in the fandom

>>280174898
>scolded by Sumi
Speaking of, yeah Sumi is such a good friend that she only learned Kazuya lives with Chizuru when she bumped into him when she visited on her birthday. How would Sumi ever find out? Chizuru would not tell her that.

>>280174854
The manga isn't from Chizuru's perspective, most of the times is from Kazuya's perspective who would certainly see Umi as Chizuru's friend or more
So, any pages where Chizuru herself calls Umi a friend?

>>280174968

>>280174698
>That would undermine everything the manga did up until now
Why would that be an issue now?

>>280175012
Seeing it from the outside, their situation is surely really weird. Two young people living under the same roof for weak reason that have a complex history behind them? I would certainly think they are fucking and keeping it secret

>>280175012

>>280174854
You wanna know a funny thing.
"The girlfriend and her friend" title is a toned down version of the actual nip title of the chapters where Umi is involved: 男と彼女 (the man and my girlfriend, dunno if there are furiganas that make the otoko kanji be spelled as "friend")

>>280175056
>toned down version
Looks like the English version is the toned up version though. "Girlfriend and Guy" implies Umi is undefined, not a friend or something more

>>280175146
Toned down tbf. The eng version labels Umi as the friend.
By putting "otoko", it leaves open the possibility of Umi becoming something more.

>>280175056
Why would you go on the internet and tell lies?
彼女と彼女の友達

>>280175146
>Guy
Nips use "yatsu" for guy (or the more offensive "yarou" or "koitsu" westoids translate as asshole/bastard/jerk).
Otoko is "man".

>>280175172
No, friend is Chizuru's case means a very close relationship and Umi isn't even there. "The guy" is how he is in Kazuya's mind, someone who could potentially be everything

>>280175017
It would be an issue for the narrative that Chizuru doesn't understand love. It wouldn't be an issue if she just doesn't like Kazuya.
I believe the latter to be closer to the truth.

>>280164478
Wait is he still calling her by her prostitute name?

>>280175175
Ohhh, so Umi is her friend in Kazuya's mind. Makes sense

>>280175175
Lurk moar

>>280175242
Because he just loves an idea that's getting systematically shattered.
He's just clutching to whatever hope is left, but Chizuru will keep pushing him away "for his own sake".

>>280175242
Because he doesn't dare calling her with a name that would imply a closer relationship. Chizuru never ever called him anything outside rental dates
Besides, if he called her Ichinose japan would be hit by another tsunami

>>280175263
and no, he didn't change it in the tank either.

>>280175315
>doesn't dare calling her with a name that would imply a closer relationship
Yet he hasn't qualms into calling the others Ruka-chan, Mami-chan and Sumi-chan. That makes them closer to him than fucking Chizuru.
The other distant relationship he has is with Mini (iirc he calls her Yaemori-san, not Mini-chan, but imagine if something happens and she gets upgraded to Mini-chan... especially when they have some nice chemistry... it would feel awkward af).
I even think Kazuya doesn't consider Kibe as much of a friend or Kibe's friendship is kinda one sided because he calls him Kibe, not by his 1st name (Yoshiaki), vs him using a shortened affectionate name for him.

>>280175242
Because it's funny.

>>280175439

>>280175455

>>280175471

>thread is just one retard talking to himself

>>280175428
Wouldn't mean anything, even Kuri calls her Mini-chan

>>280175544
1st name basis is a big thing in Japan tho.
Or are you gonna delude himself Kazuya and Chizuru's emotional estrangement (calling her by her rental name and by Hey!/You! respectively) means they are emotionally the most tightly connected beyond any fucking etiquette or convention. Becayse that's something i would expect from plebbitors or a nip loremaster on high copium.

>>280172926
>>280173212
>>280174229
What's with haters always making up fanfiction scenarios? I genuinely enjoy this manga and even I don't obsessively fantasise about it like this.

>>280175544
>Wouldn't mean anything, even Kuri calls her Mini-chan
Anon...>>280162920

>>280175743
their first and last interaction in the manga

>>280175719
>If you don't buy Mizuhara's bullshit, then you are a hater.
Extremist behavior as always. Nothing has changed in almost 4 years. You were this obnoxious when 218 happened and got too high on your horses with chapter 227, but then the ghosting happened lmao.

Here the pattern will be repeated with higher stakes. And Chizuru's guilt for holding Kazuya back will play a big factor in her next decisions. Prepare yourselves for the blacklisting because it's inevitable. Or just admit you want this shit to end, that's why you behave like that.

If i write "fanfiction-ish" scenarios, is because i'm positive they can happen simply because there has to be an excuse to drag this story further and, as much of a hack Reiji is, he isn't a stupid that would wrap up shit in an unsatisfactory way simply to cater to self inserters, he rather prefers slowburns.

>>280175927
>Or just admit you want this shit to end
Isn't that everyone?

>>280176027
Won't disagree, but Mizuharaliebers are the most obnoxious and obvious about that by insulting others, that onoy screams their desperate plea for this manga to end ASAP.

At least here's a common agreement this will never take the bokuyaba or the kaguya sama route where the excuse to drag the story is by showing their struggling relationship and the manga will end the instant Chizuru can final and fully accept Kazuya, after Reiji emphasized them ending together is the endgame and not one milestone.

>>280164545

>>280174429
He's not, she's only ever interacted with him as an acquaintance. The only people close to chizuru are Kazuya and Sayuri and Kazuya has only gotten to that point through sheer bloody-minded persistence. Princess in the tower, that kind of thing

>>280176027
Yes and no. I want this obnoxious stalling to end, but not the manga itself. I want to see them fucking and get fucked by other issues instead of Chizuru being a bitch.
There's a fuckton of stuff that can be done post confession

>>280174429
And even without Umi, there's Sumi, Yuuka, Shiori and the other girl i don't remember her name (inb4 it's not Miho).
For a supposed loner, she has quite a circle.
Kazuya has it more difficult: Kibe, Kuri, Takeshi and just that. Mini discarded because she is trigger happy to betray her friendship and follow her heart.

>>280177387
The only really close friend she has is Sumi though. Kazuya is the guy she won't admit she wants in her panties, college friends are just that and Mini could turn into a sneaky bitch any second

>>280175815
>last
As of now

>>280177386
>There's a fuckton of stuff that can be done post confession
But sadly this is a "getting together is the endgoal boy meets girl" story.
So enjoy more Chizuru being a bitch while starting to realize the acting world sucks balls and being a RaG doesn't satisfy her, Ruka starting to go too ahead of herself and start thinking into marriage if by some casuality she sees Kazuya's ring, shit getting more complicated when Mami crashes out into a confession and offers Kazuya a solution to get rid of Ruka, him getting caught in a remember and fucking Mami, shit getting more complicated until Chizuru finally opens herself and reveals something painful that will cover a sweet truth. She tried to definitely cut Kazuya, even tried to offer herself to Umi, but in that instant, she found out no other person could make her feel that feeling she felt around Kazuya.

>>280174598
I think it would help if you killed yourself.

>>280171444
Powerful trips, yep, Ruka needs to die.
>>280172415
Anon please, stop resisting.

>>280173544
Casual Chizuru is hottest Chizuru

>>280173822
Her tit size is fluctuating like crazy

>>280173544
When did she make this face? I don't remember the chapter

>>280173544
That tongue stick out was maliciously placed.
Her face covered in shadows, that meant she actually meant it when she said Kazuya shouldn't be too reckless with his money wasting on someone he may not even get and wasn't just teasing him.

>>280179219
Take context: >>280179253
Chapter 345 iirc.

>>280179253
The tongue sticking out meant she's reading to suck his balls dry and lapping up even the last drop. She wants him more badly than Ruka

>>280179285
Thanks anon, you were correct. I didn't remember the monster sponsorship ad

>>280174099
Are you me, anon? This was sweet as fuck but then I remember these fuckers have been beating around the bush for so long.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1abCGsaqhes

>>280174099
It's literally the most basic way to develop a romantic history and yet Reji fails at this

>>280180913
Beating the bush isn't really the problem, the fucking filler is

>>280173959
Something from that moment is kinda cute, Kazuya quickly noticed she was saying hi with the extended fingers

If some anons here also participated on /vp/ during Pokemon since XY, they should remember an Advanceschizo who was an absolute pain in the ass called Famon.
https://x.com/HurricaneKishor/status/1940315552561733854?t=n1VZyUG8UlM-YdsxO0JY5w&s=19
Seems he is another Zuruschizo as well.

>>280181936
And we're supposed to care why exactly?

>>280170689
You are right. He's only like this because he's a virgin. Any prostitute would work, but a REAL one.

>>280181936
Yeah I see a schizo alright.

>>280181597
It's not even the filler, it's the plot not moving an inch, even if you remove all the filler Kazuya still does a 360 in his character at the end of every arc and nothing changes

>>280178006
YOU SHUT YOUR MOUTH

>>280160239 (OP)
A more traditional story or high school flick would have him realize the Stacey who hurt him was never good for him and the girl that truly loved him and wants to stick by his side was the one truly for him all along. No wonder this manga is the anti-christ it goes against everything we have learned.

I'm prepared for a complete wet fart of an ending where Kazuya DOES get Chizuru but he's still acting like the same simp he's always been throughout the whole series, like the final panel is just Chizuru giving him cat eyes while Kazuya just blushes like an idiot.

>>280182310
That's absolutely false though. Things do slowly change, even now fucking Chizuru admitted having feelings for Kazuya and they are living together. Yeah, she rejected him because she's a fucking idiot, but still

>>280182381
Bisque?

>>280183170
>even now fucking Chizuru admitted having feelings for Kazuya
pity feelings
>and they are living together
pity living together
>Yeah, she rejected him because she's a fucking idiot
She rejected him because he’s not a man to her. He’s a clown. She laughs at him every once in a while but that doesn’t mean she likes him that way. She’s only doing this so she doesn’t have to feel bad later. A sad clown is a depressing clown.

>>280168431
lol

>>280182376
Honestly, I'm glad that the best girl doesn't end up as a consolidation prize to the MC so I'm not angry that Kanokari doesn't follow the traditional formula

>>280170641
Chizuru watches anime? Gross, 1 star review. I'm trying to get away from kimotas.

>>280175242
If he didn't Reiji couldn't milk this cuz logically they'd be together. It's the source of Chiz's hang up. He's in love with her rental persona

>>280174296
>we all want out
Which is exactly why it's not ending anytime soon.

>>280184067
No he talks about how she really isn't different after all, that was always the real her.

>>280184183
Well kazu isn't the one with the hang up. She might see it differently. She's says she will stop renting for a bf but what if she does for kazu and ichinose gets rejected(not that would happen all but it's a legit fear maybe from her side). That's where I think Reiji is going with name nonsense at least

>>280184183
Only that that's the source of the conflict. He thinks she's a lie he has to make truth but since the 1st manga chapters he had rejected Ichinose. He even can't say her last name properly.

>>280184387
reasonable
>>280184420
(you)

>>280184494
I'm honestly willing to bet the finale to this is something super lame like she confesses and he finally uses her real name

>>280184744
Anyone expecting anything but a lame and safe ending will be disappointed, which suits me just fine honestly since I just want Ruka to lose.

>>280184744
>and he finally uses her real name
Even a KnNW/SnA type of end is fine by me. The instant she accepts Kazuya and he finally can use her real last name, the journey ends, and imo, having to see their daily life is gonna be boring af.

>>280185685
>SnA
What's that?

>>280186088
Shounen no Abyss.

>>280184744
I mean, how else would it end? Romantic stories aren't known for unpredictable endings

It's so cringe that she actually thought this.

Remember folks, stalker-rizz is real.

>>280187763
Usually it just ends up with a restraining order against the stalker.

>>280187763
Kaguya did it, Kazuya is learning

>>280164545
Rollcall
>Nozoki Ana MC ended with main girl because he resembled her dead brother who fucked her when she was a minor
>Domekano MC ended with his og crush DESPITE he already pumped a daughter with his crush's little sister because of an asspulled accident
>Cuck sensei from Kuzu No Honkai married his hot wife because she resembles his dead mother
now
>Chizuru may end with Kazuya because he resembles her grandfather
and the funny thing about it is not asspulled
On the movie arc Chizuru already drew parallels between Kazuya and gramps. How Kazuya believed on Chizuru's dream as much as gramps did.
But after that it was sidelined so hard for the hawaiians and everything afterwards for years, it comes back too late to the party kek

>>280187763
according to the author

>>280188035
Battered wife syndrome.
Kazuya is performing psychological abuse.
Kimeeeeeee.

>>280187994
>>Domekano MC ended with his og crush
Did she remind him of his Mommy or Grandma?

>>280188035
I love this stupid fucking manga, as highly problematic it may be, I think it's secretly based.

>>280188166
He simped her since he was younger and they got too close for a teacher & student, as they had those rooftop talks about literature and shit.
Rest of story is kinda known, he got rejected by her bc he wasn't an adult, he gets obsessed with becoming an adult asap and be taken seriously by his oneitis, the shit he does is basically fuck Rui thinking "losing his V = becoming an adult".

>>280188323
I haven't read it but it sounds great, he gets to fuck other girls and still get his dream girl.

>>280187994
Don’t forget Aqua likes women who can mimic the mannerisms of his dead idol mom. Idk if that counts though cause it wasn’t his real mom.

>>280188323
So the main character usually gets with the target of their obsession and it's not portrayed as an unhealthy thing for them to overcome. Kazuya will end up with Chizuru too unfortunately.

>>280188489
That's what happens before the series beginning.
I'm having a reread and Natsuo is too much of an intense simp for Hina at first, and despite of losing his v with Rui, he tries to draw a limit with her and try to see her only as a sibling. Natsuo eventually gets his way with the teacher and have a risky secret relationship despite of Hina not wanting something serious, one mfer catches them kissing, she resigns her position as a teacher and ghosts and vanishes from Natsuo's existence.
Rui begins to grow in him because feels guilty for her sister vanishing, eventually finds out where she ran away and i'm still stuck there (ch. 70).

>>280187994
Smell has strong connection to emotion, so it's not really weird Chizuru finds Kazuya's smell similar to her grandpa, it's a smell she loves after all. You can read it as creepy because what she's doing certainly is, but I don't think it implies incestuous sexual attraction.

>>280189149
I'm going to take a good whiff of my boyfriend's scalp. Oooh, reminds of Grandpa!

*timeskip*
chizuru is happily married with kazuya
they have some kids
specifically a daughter
the daughter finds out about diamond
the cycle continues

>>280189824
>rental family

>>280189824
Ironically, I can see it happening if Kazuya was so In love with Chizuru that he would neglect his own daughter

>>280190326
i could just imagine arguments from both sides on whether the hypothetical daughter should or should not engage in such behavior

>>280189779
It's nice you can be that close and comfortable with your boyfriend anon

>>280190782
I actually rejected him multiple times, but I still took a good sniff of him before we finally say goodbye.

>>280189824
Chapter 900

Girlfriend and My Third Remarriage Part 31!

You had your chance.

I don’t know ANYTHING about this manga, but if it’s a harem that means:
1. It’s NOT a harem, there is a main girl who is mono romance interest.
2. The main girl in a fake harem is never the most attractive, she is usually the 2nd (and sometimes the 3rd) most attractive.
So the question is: who is the main girl, and who is the most attractive? Does the MC even pretend to be attracted to the other girls or are they played up mainly for gags? The usual pattern is that the most attractive girl makes a serious play for the MC only in the final arc, I assume this hasn’t happened yet?

>>280191806
The main girl who is on 99% of the volume covers is not in the running anymore so from now on she is basically irrelevant. She said no and will not make a serious play to get together with him. She will let her not-rival win because she loves him way more than her if she had any love at all and is not just saying bullshit to soften the blow of rejection. She won’t date someone who looks like her grandpa it’s over. There is no harem just one girl interested in the mc and his ex who still wants to talk to him that’s it. And yes. The mc is interested in the other girls sexually but because he had a thing for only one they only register to him a fraction of the time and he spends all his money on rental dates and masturbation material which he uses in his apartment on his laptop or in a rental cuck shed for his private time. I think all the girls except the main one are more attractive looking and the winner will be revealed shortly now that the main premise of this manga is over.

>>280191806
>I don’t know ANYTHING about this manga
The absolute state of nu-/a/.

>>280191806
Ypu are right in almost everything lol

>>280164478

>>280192616
It’s unusual for the main girl in a harem to be the 1st most attractive, but in all other JP romance genres the main girl is ALWAYS the most attractive. Only the fact that they all share without exception (outside of porn) is that there is a main girl who is the pre-destined winner. If it seems like she has dropped out, it’s just a climax development which will end with the MC chasing after her on Christmas Eve or some other special day for a dramatic confession. That’s just the way JP romances are. The only other possible outcome is "tragedy" in which the main girl dies or is permanently separated from the MC. There will NEVER be a development where some other girl comes in from behind and wins over the MC, that will never happen.

>>280164545

>>280173136
Welcome to Women 101

>>280193359
>There will NEVER be a development where some other girl comes in from behind and wins over the MC, that will never happen.
Every once in a while /a/ will throw a riot when it happens. Not always. And the winner might win for no apparent reason. It’s usually the less popular girls too who don’t stand out.

>>280175315
>Besides, if he called her Ichinose japan would be hit by another tsunami
Why?

>>280193359
>but in all other JP romance genres the main girl is ALWAYS the most attractive.
Can count exceptions
>Hatsukoi Zombie, not a harem, the main girl is literally a dyke, and the most attractive one is literally MC's big eyebrows, big tiddy friend.
>Video Girl Ai: barely counts as harem, the most attractive girl is not the main girl, however she gets downgraded with a stupid dyke haircut.
>Domekano is at worst a love triangle, and it was stated MC's side chick (the younger sis) is least attractive than the main girl.
>Himegoto is a bizarre shit. The main heroine despite of having the biggest tits, is a fucking tomboy and MC considered her ugly.

Iirc I''s is the biggest subversion in harem mamga, and one of the few where the most attractive girl is also the main heroine. Could count Boy's Abyss too simply because despite of people thinking it's a character drama and a survival thriller, the author considers it more of a dark harem romcom

>>280193505
>Not always. And the winner might win for no apparent reason. It’s usually the less popular girls too who don’t stand out.
>No apparent reason
There's one: it's the girl that, even if unintentionally, takes the MC out of his comfort zone and triggers a change on him.

over/under on when the series will end?

>>280194778
Never.

>>280193738
>and it was stated MC's side chick (the younger sis) is least attractive than the main girl.
The younger sister is considered more attractive than her older one?

>>280193359
>There will NEVER be a development where some other girl comes in from behind and wins over the MC, that will never happen.
didn't Gotoubun do that

>>280195322
You mean that one everyone hated?

>>280163670
No, it's about a retard thirsting after a prostitute who doesn't want him. Also, there's girls who want to fuck him, but he wants the prostitute not them.

>>280195430
(you)

>>280195256
>more attractive than her older one?
Less. She's more the "cute autist who realizes her feelings first" type, but her body is barely average at best.

>>280195322
>didn't Gotoubun do that
It was foreshadowed Yotsuba was the promised gurl. However i guess that was Negi throwing a fuck you against horseracers, a reminder he grew resentful at the quints for being a money grubber and even threw a jab against them and their otakus in Sentai Dai Shikkaku.

>>280164422
what a puta

>>280195511
(you)

>>280195499
And now he doesn't make anything.

>>280195466
Oh I thought it was one of those exceptions where the main girl isn't the cutest.

>>280195499
>a reminder he grew resentful at the quints for being a money grubber
Funny because his protagonist for that series was a money grubber. Maybe that would have reflected on him.
>and even threw a jab against them and their otakus in Sentai Dai Shikkaku.
What did he say?

>>280194778
In 3 years

>>280195372
>t. astroturfing niniturd

>>280195889
You are just jealous because you will never be a real Nini bro.

>>280195791
>What did he say?
The origin of the Dragon Keepers divine artifacts is actually Negi throwing a jab to the quints and its otakus.
tl;dr they're made using the corpses of 5 mikos intentionally called 1>2>3>4>5 who basically sacrificed their lives to make those weapons. The toys Dragon Keepers otakus buy religiously and act obnoxious about their fanatism are also made of the mikos corpses.

Remember Hina, Yotsuba and Nagi also pushed their respective MCs away before finally giving themselves in.
This isn't something new, neither scandalous.
Just trust the plan.

i really dislike this perfect girl asuna-like but shes done nothing wrong aside from being a whore desu

The top minds have spoken, he isn't going to be moving out.

>>280160239 (OP)
J

>>280195889
Are you trying to say you actually liked it?

>>280194778
20 chapters

They announced this will be getting a dub.

>>280194778
2 volumes

>>280193738
>Hatsukoi Zombie, not a harem, the main girl is literally a dyke, and the most attractive one is literally MC's big eyebrows, big tiddy friend.
The main girl is the tulpa and she is conventionally attractive version of the girl that wins, throughout the series evebrows is used for promotion along the tulpa.

reeeeeee chibi clickbaited me again with another falsely titled video

Your reaction when she tries to tell you no

>>280196772
And Mini isn’t either. Everyone will just live there from now on. The curtain will remain.

>>280164545
https://youtu.be/9RRhhewFqyw?si=NWKuv3-c9zGD_f7I

He only needed like 39 more "No."s

what if chizuru was the one with amnesia and kazuya had to win her over every day? this is practically what is going on lol

>>280198823
(you)

>>280199304
very good anon, this is one of the classic simp flicks that is very reminiscent of kanokari

There more she says no, the more it means she loves you.

>>280170585
she did ghost him for 3 months until the kazuya came back barking for a bone

>>280174854
looks like a massive turn coming out

>>280200028
>she did spend every day thinking about contacting him
yeah that was cute

>>280199071

>>280200140
boomers are facebook posting

>>280200140
Though you are right, it is based.

>>280199071
>what the hell lois this is more annoying than the time joe went through his rent-a-girlfriend phase
>joe: FUCK YEAH PETER RENT-A-GIRLFRIEND RULES!!

>>280199071
>Barbara - so you think hitting women can be a good thing
>Sean - I do, and I haven't changed my mind
That man was a legend

>>280200028
>until the kazuya came back barking for a bone
until Mini decided to intervene, Chizuru was content with avoiding him indefinitely, she even denied him the ability ro rent her without straight up blacklisting (every time he chose a date she was suspiciously unavailable that day, so she was actively avoiding him)

Does Kazuya even have any talents? Like good academic records or management skills or something? How did he get so much money and will he have to pay it back? If Kazuya were smart, he would at least have job, stakes or crypto. If he doesn't even work and just used his college loan and family's funds on whore, he's beyond retarded

>>280200706
A big dick is a talent.

>>280200706
He has an internal clock memory in his head that can tell what time exactly Mizuhara kissed him. Not the first time he used it either and it’s not just limited to anything with Mizuhara or kissing.

>>280200706
>Does Kazuya even have any talents?
Yes, actually, playing with toys, granted it's just about him being good with kids, which may or may not be just a coded way to say he still is just like a kid himself.
>good academic records
Not that we ever saw anything from him in these regard, he is able to cram material so he can write a test for someone else, though , so maybe(?)
>or management skills or something?
He made the movie happen and that's not an easy thing to accomplish, we don't really know how much he got from Mini outside the crowdfunding.

That being said his actual strength is supposed to be hime being a hard worker, but it might as well just be him being stubborn.

Have Chizuru actually moaned in the manga at the hospital bed scene or it is only in the anime?

>>280200706
his best quality is being dumb
>>280200827
The manga gives her heart eyes

>>280200789
Well at least there's something. Why don't he use these to woo her instead of simping for her. Like be her manager/agent for acting? Show the good sides and less lying and being creepy

This fucking loser is a nervous wreck.

>>280200835
Being dumb isn't really reliable nor does it bring money into the table

>>280200789
You really think Kazuya is a princess?

>>280200870
>reliable
Don't be ridiculous, he is very reliably dumb.

>>280200841
You have to have outstanding talent to be a successful actor. Which Mizuhara has none. She can barely get by pretending to like guys when she clearly doesn’t. Getting people to like her other than with her looks is extremely hard a poor manager/agent with no connections can’t help her.

>>280200853
my wife is so cute and retarded

>>280198086
>The main girl is the tulpa and she is conventionally attractive version of the girl that wins, throughout the series evebrows is used for promotion along the tulpa.
The tulpa is actually something similar to a manifestation of the dyke's unresolved feelings, in other words, an extension of FeMC's true core.

That's why that story was rigged af (something seemingly common in Minenami works. Despite of being too loose regarding physical relationships, there's always a person who is MC's most impirtant one). The dyke was bound to win simply because the titular hatsukoi(shitsuren) zombie is nothing more than FeMC's unresolved feelings and the only way to make her rest in peace is by accepting those feelings.

>>280200968
>That's why that story was rigged af
The tulpa's name didn't clue you in?

>>280200873
explain. Yeah, I'm reaching because for most of the story he is shown as a useless slob.

Ruka will unironically die, her whole heart condition is just a chekov's gun, she will die and the chapter after her death will be tonal whiplash that immediately goes back to Kazuya simping for Chizuru

>>280201070
nevermind

>>280201070
He is a super chad who turns girls into nervous wrecks.

>>280201077
Wrong
Kazuya will be depressed about Ruka and then Mizuhara will come over to him by surprise in a Ruka wig trying to heal his heart by pretending to be her. And then later he will write a book about the dangers of simping.

>>280200835
>Heart eyes transcript to sexual moan
Eh, has she really fallen for feeling his big d on her tushy?

>>280201167

>>280200706
Instead of spoonfeeding you, I’m gonna say, no he’s not as pathetic as you think enough to be complete jobless and skillless bum.

>>280201164
Would Kazuya really be depressed? he's been trying to escape from her for awhile now

>>280201253
He’s been with her for a while now. If there was a swarm of bees he’d still protect her from them and get stung in place of her. If she needed a new organ maybe he would donate his to her. And maybe later he would still take her to sea world or something

>>280200841
He is wooing her by taking her on these exorbitantly fancy dates. What more could you need?

>>280201322
A helicopter and fireworks.

>>280201322
Unless those dates involve throwing untold sums of money at her face like he’s richy rich I don’t see how he could woo her with just that.

>>280201397
Reminds me of a comic made in koikatsu where Mami and Chizuru share Kazuya

>>280201400
His side bitches mostly wooed her for him, with conveniently timed jealousy.

>>280201427
It’s not a realistic story that’s why it’s convenient.

>>280201070
The best part is he has a brutally honest friend that cares to agree.

>>280201596
A perfect match.

>>280201629
For Kibe? I can support it.

>>280201701
I'm going to ship Kibe with Mami.

>>280201738
or Kami for short
praise Kami

>>280201738
Ship Kuri with Mizuhara while you’re at it. And Mini, Sumi, and Ruka with Umi it’ll be hilarious.

>>280201813
>hilarious
No I'm serious, this prediction has a high degree of probability.

>>280201825
They don't have anything in common and they have never spoken to each other, unironically Kazuya grandma has more probabilities of being Kibe girlfriend

>>280202088
>they have never spoken to each other
You might wana try again.

>>280202127
I mean onscreen and even then they aren't even friends

>>280202147
>I mean onscreen
I mean I guess you did try again after all even if you failed.

>>280202088
She probably spoke more with Kibe than Kazuya at this point, but it's because they're working together for Nagomi.

>>280202088
>meeting privately as advisors

>>280202262

>>280201171
Oh that's what it meant, I thought it was a case of Kazuya horniness distorting his POV, she really felt the big D.
Sasuga rental kanojo.
But no wonder she couldn't let go of the shenanigans.

Her going to the JAV to try and recreate those feelings and sensations isn't so farfetched after all

>>280163475
Ok Diddy

>>280202363
Virgin mindset

>>280201077
Wrong
>Ruka dies after her 1st time w/ Kazuya ends with her heart imploding.
>Kazuya thinks his simpery and jerk behavior killed her and develops survivor guilt PTSD. For the 1st time, he doesn't feel like pursuing Mizuhara anymore and no one of the surviving girls too. However, he can't get over Chizuru. He also gets haunted dick, becoming infertile after Ruka's death, a hint of his final demise. Gma dies regretful for pressuring Kazuya, but more regretful of not seeing Mizuhara one last time.
>2 years later, Kazuya doesn't graduate, but insteqd drops university and takes over the konbini. Worried parents in a desperate attempt to keep the Kinoshita bloodline arrange a relationship with Mami. Kazuya doesn't even try to fight them back. He just lets things be because he feels tainted while he piles up regrets (all related to Chizuru). Amidst his resignation, he develops prostate cancer. He doesn't even dare to treat it, thinking it's his punishment for not being a proper man.
>Kazuya eventually gets deathbed ridden, he admits his regrets to Mami and tells her she should be free to choose the life she wants, but he simply wants to see her a last time. An enraged, but at the same time free Mami reaches a Chizuru who is suffering a lot in her career, but doesn't have the will, neither the fire to escape from her own decisions, tells about Kaz's terminal condition and in a venomous tone, tells her she's giving Kazu back to her, so she should hurry up to give a proper farewell to him. She then decides to escape Japan, declaring her infinite contempt to that country.
>Chizuru asks for a temporary retirement, manages to reach Kazuya in his deathbed. Seeing him in such a terminal state makes her start breaking down, even at this moment, she can't have an answer for what she feels for him, but she actually resented his absence (he couldn't come and see her because of the konbini) and wanted to see him too.
(1/2)

Ruka won. The only way she will suffer a heart attack is when she’s in the act of having sex and over too much excitement of winning so hard.

I can't believe there are so many retards here that believe that Ruka will die of a heart attack, yeah bro Reji will remove the second most popular character and do a 180 to the tone because...

>>280202539
>After some banter, she finally resorts to lie and tell the words he wanted to hear from her. Kazuya, on his terminal lucidity, knows it's a lie, but is nevertheless glad he could finally hear those words, now he can die in peace and atone for all the sins he has committed.
>A minute after passing away, Chizuru realizes those words she thought she only said them just to release him from any guilt, she really felt them. Feels like total shit about that, but she can't do anything to turn time back and do things right with Kazuya... after apoloigizing to his late parents for all she did, she takes the ring and decides to wear it, no matter if Kazuya isn't here anymore, the only thing she can do to atone for her own sins is to live a correct life, own to her feelings and live every day as if it's the last one, expecting someday he'll come back and pick her to the afterlife (basically, strive for her story called her life to have a "happy?" end). She never marries, neither has sexual encounters with anybody, but instead dedicates herself to become a successful actress and RaG her own way. Eventually she starts a women only talent agency with Sumi and Mini and adopts an orphaned newlyborn who looks similar to Kazuya.
>One day she visits his grave, conveniently placed under a dying tree, extremely tired, everybody died, only she managed to have had a longer lifespan, a paradox considerkng her relatives didn't have a good health. On an instant of sorrow, she asks Kazuya how much should a person waste to have his loved ones back with her and if after this life, there's another one. She only wants to be with him, it's what she actually wanted, but her obsession with surpassing grandma didn't let her see it. So this bitter end is her karma.
>She lays beneath the tree wanting to sleep a bit. When she wakes up she sees the same tree, but blossomed as if it's spring. She sees an ocean in front of her and a silhouette watching the horizon.
(2/3)

>>280202890
>The silhouette turns around, it's 20yo Kazuya who tells her he's glad she could come. She apologizes from below that tree for making him wait 60 years, but he sticks her tongue saying it's ok, because at least he had plenty of time to reflect there. He sees she has the ring placed on her finger, playfully provoking her by saying if she only decided to use it once he was out, calling her sneaky. She feels offended and scolds him to watch his mouth, only to admit that it was her own way to apologize for not having realized her feelings when he was alive. Kazuya keeps teasing her until she stands up and her 19yo self runs at him to splash him for being too cheeky. They start to have a water fight while laughing for the stupid way this story came to an end. For the stupid way they finally ended together.
>84yo Chizuru finally passes away beneath that dead tree irl.
>Timeskip to a distant future. A 17yo kid with suspiciously similar features to Kazuya is running late in his hovering board to a rental date with a girl suspiciously similar to Chizuru he appointed because he needed some training to ask out a crush from high school. Eventually... the cycle repeats. Or maybe this time, it will be broken.
End.
This is how kanokari could end in a kino way.

>>280202719
>yeah bro Reji will remove the second (?) most popular character and do a 180 to the tone because...
Doubt if she's the second, Reiji was surprised at her crowdfunding being too successful and made clear he just now realised how great she actually is after watching the S1-3 rerun on DMM TV. She may be the most popular now, but we don't have popularity polls right now.
The CF was too successful to the point Reiji added just this week a new tier to the CF plans: the 50k yen tier that allows people to assist to a talkshow with Reiji Miyajima himself during the event.
That doesn't mean Reiji should cater to them. If he wants to kill her off simply to trigger some (negative) development on Kazuya, he'll do that.

>>280203257
She was 2nd during the last popularity poll and probably still would be.

>>280203322
Dat shit was almost 4 years ago.
Things change a lot in 4 years.

>>280203257
>Reiji was surprised at her crowdfunding being too successful
That proves that she is very popular, her crowdfunding campaign goals got reached on day 1

>>280203402
You are right, given how much backlash Chizuru received 2 chapters ago it wouldn't surprise me if Ruka would be the number one most popular girl

>>280203492
> Chizuru received backlash
From who? /a/ ?

>>280203562
Plebbit, nip xitter, magapoke comments, 5ch, Line, youtube.

we're getting mc busting a nut in the pool to the thought of getting cucked, right? Does anyone have an idea as to which ep it will be?

>>280203745
Midway the 2nd cour.

>>280203745
first or second episode of the next cour, first episode has a flash forward to before she run away from his confession, so that's probably where this cour ends.

>>280203764
>>280203788
ty, honestly dropped the manga a few chaps after that, but I really want to see how they're going to animate it and mainly looking forwards to the response from anime onlys

Vol. 41 special edition cover reveal
Blue suits Chizuru's personality better.
Fun trivia: it's her original color theme before the anime arbitrarily decided to change it to red/pink. Ruka's original color thematics was red.

>>280201123
Nah, he's an abyss that makes others reveal their truest selves.

Yuh, nips are livid at Zuru for her contradictory abysmal behavior.
>(#126)
I want to punch this garbage heroine.
>(#127)
I might like him
But I can't!
I don't really get it but I can't!
Don't fall in love with him, just give up!

What in the fucking fuck is this lowlife menhera woman with a flirtatious pussy, she should just die.
>(#130)
When I get home, I'll be like, wow, Mizuhara is so soft, I love it, I love it, I love it
>(#124)
You should just dump that indecisive sugar daddy girl called Mizuhara and go out with Yaemori. Kazuya, you don't need to be obsessed with a girl like that. You're definitely a better person than Mizuhara.
>(#125)
But you don't notice Hae's kindness.
(They call Yaemori as Hae(mori (Go)mi ni; "into the trash the flies forest goes")
>(#140)
Touyama should really be the supporting character to make the main character stand out, but her acting is so good and the main character is so crap that Ruka is the main heroine and Mizuhara is just the mistress in this anime lol (even though other animes have a good flow)

It's already falling apart

>(#143)
I don't really think of Amamiya Sora as a winning or main heroine. She's the losing heroine in Mahouka Koukou. If anything, I think Sumi's voice actress is the winning or main heroine. Toyama Nao plays the winning heroine in Nisekoi and Maou-sama, so she's not really a supporting or losing heroine voice actress.

>>280203930
Yeah, no. Chizuru's favorite color is red and vol 9 >>280173401 released in 2019, before the anime (she's been featured with that hoodie multiple times btw, it's not Reiji being lazy on cover arts, he's lazy in the manga)
The special edition has her wearing blue most probably because it's Kazuya's favorite color
Are you, phearhaps the guy who keeps spreading fake Japanese translations and info?

>>280206407
This is previous to the anime announcements.
I saw that shit from one of the loremasters who theorizes everything in favor of Chizuru
https://x.com/Finalkingdom3/status/1913357945947214211?t=j_COY6fg8gcfrFQv9CxjAA&s=19
The change may have been a late retcon tho, same as Ruka's hair color.
Still she used a blue damisel swimsuit at the hawaiians.

>>280203930

>>280206780

>>280207004
Ah, those "my ideal girlfriend" artbooks he did after Mononote's axe.

>>280206780
>>280207004
This is Ruka's first vol cover (I also recommend checking vol 3 cover)
If you want I can search for the manga page where it's said Chizuru's favorite color is red, but I think what I posted is enough evidence already to prove Chizuru original color isn't blue

>>280204802
She says no while clinging onto him.
I’m kinda excited to see how this obsessed stalker simp deals with this toxic indecisive tease of a woman because even if they separate and his mental condition worsens it’ll still be funny to see.

>>280202539
>>280202890
The most kino ending is Ruka having sex with Kazuya and Chizuru's son who then goes on to become a rental boyfriend.

When the fuck is Mami going to unleash her bankai?

EVILuka

>>280164545
honestly it was pretty cute
also, chizubros, we. are. back.

If Ruka is okay with polyamory why doesn't she also marry Mizuhara?

>>280208442
She'd be their little cuck third wheel like she deserves.

>>280174478
It's funny how Chibi gave the hentai more recognition with his bait thumbnail, but in the video he spoke about the chapter honestly and within context.

>>280209198
Wait, since when does Chibi review RaG chapters?

>>280210062
Since the "great ending" confession chapter 4 weeks ago.

>>280209198
Doesn't change the fact that he's a useless attention whore

>>280203419
It didn’t even take an hour before it reached it. But it’s more because people know the IP and it was shilled beforehand.

>>280160239 (OP)
then why read the thre hundred and eighty third chapter of their manga?

Mizuhara’s favorite color is white and yellow because that’s what’s on her after being rented by guys she actually likes.

>>280202315
>Her going to the JAV to try and recreate those feelings and sensations isn't so farfetched after all
I would like to see a chapter where Chizuru unconsciously accepts a JAV offer... only to realize she's about to make the same mistake as her mom.

>>280210541
Kanokari has been falling off from popularity and it was only shilled in Reji's Twitter

>>280211442
Its popularity has been decreasing, but if you think it's been falling off you are a fucking idiot

>>280211512
If not for 380, this fucking manga would have fallen into irrelevance.

>>280211442
>Kanokari has been falling off from popularity
I mean has it? Volumes are one thing, people tend to not jump straight into a manga 40 books in, but the crowdfunding took like 15 minutes or less to reach its goal. It’s got multiple seasons and it feels like it’s more well known on /a/ now than before and after Co-habitation.

>>280211536
Yeah, the 4th season and date arc that was getting positive attention everywhere screamed "falig into irrelevancy"
Come on redditfag, you can criticize Reiji for an infinite number of things, but inability to milk the series isn't one of them

>>280211643
The date was being well received because every fucking body was expecting a confession.
Then 380 came and this became a meme.

>>280211608
>crowdfunding took like 15 minutes or less to reach its goal.
It took a lot less than the 1st crowdfunding Reiji did to place kanokari ads in a tokyo metro station.

>>280195964
Kek based

>>280197111
If you're not a horserace gambler falling for obvious red herrings, yes, it was the correct ending. The honeymoon was stupid but that's a separate issue.

>>280173632
chizuru's big fat mitochondria.

>>280212276
Oooohhh, you reminded me Kazuya had the audacity to call her mythocondria sexy.

>>280213583
Just illustrated mental illness. He'd follow her to her legit grave and then rope himself.

>>280164454
>It's not your fault you got a blister!
Is he being disingenuous or legitimate retard?
one can never know with this faggot

>>280214058
Both.
This is considered smooth talking to her

>>280214058
Both.
This is considered smooth talking according to her

>>280173506
Women don't actually want pussies like this.

>>280211839
That was a joke crowdfunding that had the people in charge backing it.

>>280214712
>I was merely pretending to be a crowdfunding

>>280214562
>don’t actually want
>don’t
>do not
Well since that word is a form of “no”, it seems like he manages to argue otherwise

>>280213957
Shit what an absolute creep and freak.

>>280214562
Keep in mind that the Kazuya the readers see isn't the same one Chizuru sees. You can see in chapter 383 that he appears kinda chill and calm when he's serious. Hell, Chizuru even doubted his feelings for a while because of that (90% was her being in denial obviously).
As the other anon, said all he has to do is call her by her real name and she will turn into a water jet. She's even currently doing it spontaneously by being a fucking creep

>>280160239 (OP)
Should I binge the whole series starting now? I feel like I've missed out on all the pissing

>>280215246
The name thing is whatever. I kind of doubt she rejected him because of that.

>>280214872
>>280215246
Anyone who unironically reads this shit and thinks it's a good portrayal of relationships is doomed.

>>280215354
>The name thing is whatever
Not to her nor him
>I kind of doubt she rejected him because of that.
? She rejected him for a bunch of stupid made up excuses she listed in chapters 380

>>280214981
Kazzy is Mizoo’s little good boy though

This manga in a nutshell.

>>280215442
the relationship being so bad is what makes it funny

>>280215465
>? She rejected him for a bunch of stupid made up excuses she listed in chapters 380
? What she said was perfectly valid. It may not be the whole truth but it’s accurate and matches up with what she thinks a couple chapters later.

>>280215739
No, it's beyond dumb:
- he doesn't interfere with her acting life
- he wouldn't have problems with her working as a rental gf
- he didn't ask her to marry him on the spot
The only """reasonable""" thing she said, was about being pushed by the situation to kiss him, but even that is super stupid because she's reducing everything to the kiss

>>280215908
>he doesn't interfere with her acting life
I believe he does. Think about why she still wants to act. Her grandma is dead there’s no point now but she still wants to prove she can do it. If he shows up as her boyfriend to “support her” it may backfire so she wants that gone to remain pure. And if she manages to sleep her way into a role at least she didn’t cheat on her boyfriend and didn’t cheat Ruka. She’s a bit conceited.

>>280216130
She wants to become an actress because she loves acting
She doesn't want to be an idol, having a boyfriend isn't a problem
She doesn't want to sleep her way into success, Umi offered her that he got the middle finger
Ruka isn't an issue for her anymore
Kazuya helped her acting career

>>280215908
>No, it’s beyond dumb
It’s not that beyond dumb, there will be an explanation for it in one of two outcomes:
- She doesn’t want a good boy that wuvs her and took her on a little trip. She wants a man. This would culminate later to Kazuya’s efforts finally breaking her and they end up fucking.
- She actually has work and actress gigs to worry about and can’t be tied down right now. This would culminate to their separation where they would individually follow their own paths and possibly rekindle love later.
One option would lead to the series actually ending so it’s wishful thinking.

>>280216360
It’s clear she doesn’t need a boyfriend. Just pretending to have one or more is enough for her.
And this is all that her character amounts to. She doesn’t want to change.
She doesn’t even want to acknowledge the people she led down.
She’s a pretty selfish person when you consider the work she’s doing doesn’t conflict at all as long as she tells him to stay quiet.
But she won’t even give that chance. Her way of life is basically giving the middle finger to everyone more so than the average woman.

>>280216130
>didn’t cheat Ruka.
You mentioned this last thread and it doesn't make sense, Ruka has nothing to do with Chizuru and Kazuya's relationship, if they decide to become official then she can't stop that, at best she can commit ritual suicide only for Mami to stop her.

>>280164545
Bet Reiji thinks he is cooking with all this “don’t take no for an answer” rhetoric.

>>280216984
>has nothing to do with Chizuru and Kazuya's relationship
read what Mizuhara said to Mini on their second talk after the ghosting again. Ruka has everything to do with it.

>>280160239 (OP)
is this shit not over?

>>280160239 (OP)
This is such a horrible dynamic it’s legitimately sad if they get together.

>>280217112 (still me)
Another thing before this thread is over. Loserya’s plan was to get together with Mizuhara and force Ruka to just accept that.
Mizuhara saw that.
You think she’s just going to simply agree to that? Not without millions of cash she won’t.
I’m glad he ended up with egg on his face because if that actually happened it would be really horrible. He’s not thinking straight and still wondered why she said no when it was extremely obvious.

>>280217112
Chapter 341

>>280217443
>You think she’s just going to simply agree to that? Not without millions of cash she won’t.
She doesn't need the cash, she just needs to be honest with her feelings and Kazuya needs Ruka out of his life, Ruka needs to accept this, apologise for her toxic behaviour and move on, maybe she'll move to somewhere like Hinamizawa and make some new friends.

>>280217629
Her dream would be easily fulfilled if she could fund her own movies. With how she acts it’s absolutely a requirement. And if Ruka can’t let go that’s absolutely on Kazuya. He continues to talk to her and go on dates with her no wonder she still hasn’t left him yet.

Ruka is so madly in love with him as he is to the whore. This is gonna end so devastating to her she might actually swallow pills.

>>280217854
>Ruka swallows pills
>Wakes up in the distant future as a war rages around her
>">BRUTHA I AM PINNED HERE" is the last thing Ruka heres before a grenade lands near her

>>280217854
get fucked rukanerd

>>280207137
Was maybe, then Kazuya said the word blue a time or two like during the movie premier.

>>280208442
Genius Ruka using her heartbeat to see through her lies.

>>280217854
Ruka knows she isn't in love, that's why she wouldn't fuck him.

>>280218021
It’s hilarious how much of a lousy bullshitter Mizuhara is, every other girl in the story instantly saw through her.

>>280218170
Well she did have to go pretty far to get a confirmation.

What are the chances he doesn't end up with the main whore of babylon?

>>280218170
And in the case of Ruka bullshitting with the condom Mizu actually fell for it.

>>280218258
0

>>280218270
I don't know about that
>this was special to you right (she obviously isn't acting like it is, contradicting the writing on it)
Like 90% sure it was a lie and worried anyway.

>>280218161
Yep, if her "love" for Kazuya was so real she would have fucked him, Kazuya gave her an "in" to finally give her sex but she denied it.

>>280218161
>>280218423
>Ruka doesn't love Kazuya because she hasn't raped him
This is why I come to this threads, to see retards misunderstand the world most basic and generic romcom in existence

>>280210541
>it’s more because people know the IP
people decided to spend up to $4,000 per person on a random Thursday just because they heard of RaG before? m8 stop typing

>>280218497
>romcom

>>280218570
Well, you caught me there, it is neither romantic nor comedic

>>280218497
>romcom
Actually character drama/telenovela/misery porn.

>>280218616
it's a drama

>>280218744
>>280218744
Let's keep shittalking Rukashit here.

>>280218649
Although it's more misery porn than just drama.

>>280217917
I don't get it?