This is the stupidest shit I've ever read in a shonen

>>280162329 (OP)
I don't get it

>>280162329 (OP)
read moar

>>280162329 (OP)
if you weren't a casual that only reads the most mainstream popmanga you'd have read far far stupider by now

>>280162329 (OP)
Why does Kubo act like a complete retard on Klub Outside? Did he get brain damage from working on Bleach?

>>280163856
be fair. This is really stupid.

>>280162329 (OP)
Nah, I think shonen has lower bar of stupid

>>280165713
naicu

>>280162329 (OP)
A decade later and still no one knows what happened in those last few chapters. Drugs were involved in the making of this.

>>280165022
it's not even top 100. Things get so much stupider than you can possibly imagine out there

>>280162329 (OP)
>But muh PHD paper on Bleach means it's 2deep4u

Bleach was always for mid-wits.

>>280165784
Heavy medicated drugs for sure lol

>Rukia...

>>280165022
o my bubby gum can bring me back to life
my tranny sister can cancel out the stupid thing you did
oh I got 7 other quirks
oh I can see the future but I am gonna get my mum killed and get the girl thats my sister thats in love with me to cut my head off after killing most of the world to save it, we then get bombed to fuck 85 years later
dragon ball super

>>280162329 (OP)
Ichigo never his real Bankai btw

>>280162329 (OP)
Why the fuck would he assume it was a dream? What would hash browns get from showing him a fucking dream

>>280167136
I would not call having 7 other quirks more stupid than this, like its a dumb point but at least expected unlike all that other shit and more coherent.

>>280167196
Lmao

>>280167181
What's cooking Oedipus?

>>280167276
You can't tell me i'm wrong, it was expected to happen when
"o muh vestiges just saved me from brainwash!"

compare it to
"I am actually le hollow/soulreaper/quincy"
"Did u know bungee gum can revive me?"

>>280162329 (OP)
>o my rubber nen
>o my seven quirks
>o my gear 5
>o my baryon mode
Sure diaperbro

>>280162329 (OP)
It was kino because back in soul society arc OMZ tells Ichigo during their training that only that blade can cut him.
OMZ also knows that Ichigo was set on a course to be killed by original self. Yhwach is defeated because the quincy power in Ichigo had a sliver of the Almighty that let them thread the needle while Yhwach's superior Almighty failed him because his ego made him dismiss a vital vision shared by Haschwalth while wielding it.

>>280167183
>Ichigo, cutting me down at the height of my almighty power, with his old model of zanpakuto that I know he doesn't have any more, and my life just ending even though I can retcon my own death? Well that's just impossible several times over
>this was probably just Hashwalth's final fuck you after realizing I'd gaslit him into forgetting that he wanted to kill me all these years
remember that the moment he gets struck by the stillsilver arrow as well as the next few seconds before his powers start to reboot was something the almighty could not see

>>280167181
This looks like a ntr doujin cover

>>280167465
because it most likely is with all orihime shit

>>280167181
is this NTR?

>>280167181
>Masaki with tits
get the fuck out

>>280167415
>>280167456
That sounds like complete nonsense

>>280167725
skill issue. makes sense to me

>>280167739
Nothing about that makes sense.

>>280167739
NTA but why didn't Ywach notice there was a gap in the Almighty's vision? Does he not look ahead himself?

>>280167671
Anon...

>>280167671
Did you somehow miss the chapter where Kubo shows Masaki nude with her gigantic rack, complete with nipple outlines?

>>280167181
NTR? Looks like NTR yet again lol

>>280167773
He can see countless possible futures, and as Aizen found out, ultimately it's still sensory-based. He can't immediately discern what kind of a timeline a given vision took place in without thoroughly investigating it. since he just dismissed his death out of hand he didn't try to look into the events leading up to it and thus didn't notice the gap.
after all he was 200% high on his own hubris at that point fully believed he'd already irrevocably won

>>280167913
Still doesn’t make sense

>>280167823
>>280167798
That was the angle you fooking coomer

>>280167953
do you keep looking both ways for oncoming traffic when you've already finished crossing the street?

>>280167987
Stop defending Kubo’s retarded writing.

>>280168042
stop being filtered by basic concepts

>>280168042
>no argument

>>280162329 (OP)
Is this his true bankai or not?

>>280168192
getsuga tensho

>>280167415
>OMZ tells Ichigo during their training that only that blade can cut him.
And what’s the point of this? It has nothing for Ichigo’s character.

>>280168192
Supposedly, yeah. Kubo said in an interview later on that this is his Bankai outside of its sheath, so what Yhwach broke was said sheath.

Really, though, it was just Kubo going for rule of cool as usual and doing an attempt at "going full circle" or whatever even if it makes no sense. You're really not supposed to think about it any harder than he did, post-manga ending rationalizations nonwithstanding.

>>280168452
>Kubo said in an interview later on that this is his Bankai outside of its sheath, so what Yhwach broke was said sheath.
And the message of this is?

>>280168517
None. It's Kubo providing a post-hoc explanation for what was just meant to be a cool OH SHIT IT'S THE THING FROM BACK THEN moment that raised more questions than he probably anticipated, if he even anticipated any. Remember that Kubo's health was in the gutter and he was just rushing to finish the fucking thing.

Then what was the point of the new bankai if only the original look mattered?

>>280167196
A dumb point how? Because the MC makes you seethe?

>>280168606
Ichigo being able to tap into the full extent of his powers without any fear of going berserk
maybe the anime will show us how Kubo actually intended for that to play out before he changed it to having Ywach just snap his fingers and win every round of their fight instantly to get to the end quicker

>>280168584
This health thing seems like cope

>>280168693
This is retarded, this has nothing to do with the whole OMG OLD ZANGETSU moment. If anything it was a waste of time. It was all a bunch of non sense.

>>280168606
Kubo was likely flying by the seat of his pants, Toriyama-style, by that point, so I don't think there was any point, rhyme, or reason for it. Hell, I wouldn't be surprised if he simply decided that, like much of the fanbase, he didn't like the new Shikai or Bankai designs he came up with anymore and just wanted to bring back the tried and true iconic designs. You even see it in the Hell one-shot. Ichigo is just back to the old Zangetsu "shikai" design being his default, even though it SHOULD be his Bankai now, so don't be surprised if he busts out the old Bankai sword out if that ever gets continued.

>>280165713
What is Uryu doing??

>>280168693
>without any fear of going berserk
How when he admits he’s terrible at using them.

>>280162329 (OP)
If your dumbass never heard of SnK, Nardo, JJK or several other well-known shonen then I have no clue why you’re even here

You know what really happened? Kubo realized this entire arc was a mistake and he hated writing it.

>>280168811
Bleach’s ending was worse than all those.

>>280168886
Are you an Ichirukifag?

>>280168838
That's just cope. The truth is, Kubo's just a bad writer

>>280168911
It wasn’t THIS bad before.

>>280168740
horn of alvation and 'true bankai' were clearly designed to be used in conjunction
>Ichigo gets a white horn and black streak down half his face
>this is triggered by using his quincy powers to get his hollow powers to respond in direct proportion
>his new shikai is a black blade and a white blade
>his new bankai is a white shell covering a black blade
>the whole thing is color coordinated with his the white armor with red highlights he's wearing over his black shinigami robes he got from the palace guards
It's easy to envision a more intense and gruelling battle was planned when he came up with the designs and the ending where Ywach is damaging Ichigo and his gear bit by bit without any pause in the battle until at the moment of the final blow, all ichigo has left is an unsheathed getsuga

>>280168953
Soul Society was great mainly because it straight up ripped off Saint Seiya

>>280168992
I liked Arrancar better.

>>280168886
Nah, even at its worst, Bleach is way better than JJK

>>280169027
Bleach at least has good characters

>>280167276
That other anon is right.

>>280169004
Yeah, but it was when Kubo's hackery began

>>280168964
Congrats you created a cope post to explain Kubo’s hack writing

>>280168911
He's certainly not great (though he's no worse than many battle shonen mangaka), but even by Kubo's standards, he completely shit the bed with the last bits of TYBW. He somehow managed to make it feel rushed and convoluted at the same time.

>>280169027
Bleach's ending is worse, everything before it is better I'll agree.

Creating an arc worse than fullbring with worst sales should be congratulatory

>>280168715
Nah, Mangaka notiriously suffer from bad health. Someone like Kubo who did weekly illustrations for decades...it tracks that his shoulder would get messed up. He never looked to be in good shape, he was always a bit pudgy.

>>280169163
Meh, that's just the nature of weekly Shounen. Making up shit on the fly is part of the genre.

>>280169237
TYBW is way better than Fullbring, you retard

>>280169047
Such as?

>>280162329 (OP)
I'd argue Nardo's
>main villain is Madara
>no wait it's Obito
>no wait it's REAL Madara
>no wait it's Black Zetsu and Kaguya
>no wait it's Saucegay
shit was worse. Only redeeming bit was Madara's Wild Ride, and even then it was stupid as fuck, but you could at least enjoy it because he was having so much fun clowning on everyone in between all the edgelording from the others.

>>280169358
This is the objective arc ranking:

SS >> TYBW >> Substitute Shinigami >> Fullbring == HM

>>280169358
No it isn't.

>This is what Kubo is doing in his spare time

>>280169407
Fullbring makes even less sense than any part of TYBW. The characters stop acting like themselves and turn into mere plot devices, and Ginjo’s plan doesn’t make any sense at all

>>280169358
The first invasion sure, everything after? Good god no.

>>280169481
>The characters stop acting like themselves and turn into mere plot devices, and Ginjo’s plan doesn’t make any sense at all
Wow that sounds just like TYBW!

>>280169512
the first invasion is the worst part of TYBW

>>280169407
Fullbring could've been kino, but it got brought down hard by the Captain wank at the end and a shitty underwhelming final battle, and worst of all, by it feeling ultimately inconsequential. Yes, it ended with Ichigo getting his powers back, but it didn't actually do anything for his characters beyond briefly showing us how he missed having power to defend those close to him, but he gets those back, so all's well again, I guess.

Just ask yourself: if the Fullbring arc didn't happen and the Arrancar/FKT arc ended with the Captains deciding to reward Ichigo by reawakening his powers, would anything have changed going into TYBW?

>>280169522
I swear were you idiots around when these chapters were being released? It was considered the worst arc of Bleach and the sales were even worse than the Fullbring despite the first volume rising in sales. Dropped like a rock in the end.

>>280167196
Mhatranny apologist

>>280169554
Ukitake not being the wholesome chungus he was portrayed as was somewhat consequential development.
Karin's tits were also great in Fullbring arc.

>>280169610
>Ukitake not being the wholesome chungus he was portrayed as was somewhat consequential development
It never got followed up on, though, so it really wasn't very consequential at all.
>Karin's tits were also great in Fullbring arc
Agreed. Again, though, it looked like she was being set up to do something, and then nothing. Damn shame.

>>280169554
Captain Wank wasn't the issue, the real problems were the plot holes and convenient writing. It made sense for the captains to be there, except for Icefaggot

IT SADDENS ME THAT TATSUKI WAS GOING TO BE APART OF ICHIGO'S CREW

WHAT WAS STOPPING KUBO FROM USING HER IF HE COULD WRITE DORDORI BACK IN FOR FUCKS SAKE

>>280169610
Orihime's tits too

>>280169681
>>280169610
only Orihime matters.

>>280169522
Fuck no it isn't. First invasion was awesome. Shinigamis were getting killed left and right before Kubo pussied out and brought them back (looking at you Byakuya and Kira) bankai spammers like Toshiro were rightfully so getting their shit pushed in. Soul Society was left in shambles.

Then the arc continued and it got worse and worse until it finally shit itself with the Royal Realm Wahrwelt arc where Shinigami just conveniently countered whatever the Sternritter threw at them with asspull after asspull.

>>280169387
Nardo would get so retarded sometimes, I don't even want to imagine how awful that garbage Boruto must be

>>280167136
>dragon ball super
kek

>>280167725
The bad guy was basically a god at this point. How do you defeat a god without asspulls or retardation?

>>280169898
I'll endlessly complain about Kubo being a hack but thank god Bleach didn't turn out like Boruto, even shit like MHA is better than that trash.

>>280170010
The Almighty was a mistake. Yhwach never should've had it much like how Aizen's Kyoka Suigetsu is story breakingly overpowered.
If Kyoka Suigetsu turned off when Aizen cuts you then there's a potential angle there, like how Kenpachi dealt with Tosen's bankai.
But what we got with both Almighty and Kyoka Suigetsu leaves no room for failure outside of literal mental retardation and both characters who have the power are intelligent.

>But it makes sense for the son of god to have such a stupid power
Lame cope but even then have it be the Soul King's power and Yhwach slowly awakens it after he absorbs the Soul King's remains leaving Ichigo and friends in a race against time to take down Yhwach before he becomes unstoppable after fully awakening The Almighty.

>>280165805
lol. bleachtard think they are garbage is misunderstood. bleach has a lot of stupid things too. with all ichigo's and aizen's all bullshit plan (with no setup, just claim)

Speaking of Kyouka Suigetsu, why does Aizen randomly spawn its sword during the fight with Yhwach? And why does Yhwach assume that breaking his sword would cancel Kyouka Suigetsu when
>1. We've seen Shikai abilities used in broken states just fine, like Rukia's Sode no Shirayuki
>2. Aizen is fucking transcendant can freely use KS with or without a sword, as we've seen before, since he fused with his Zanpakuto
Did Kubo forget about this or am I missing something?

>>280170806
Aizen is just straight up lying most of the time

>>280170830
It's another one of those things where Kubo clearly rushed through things without explaining what the fuck was actually going on. What I found more intriguing was when Yhwach thinks he kills Ichigo, when he actually stabs Aizen, and Aizen acts as though he doesn't know what Yhwach is seeing and finding the fact that he sees Ichigo interesting, when it's been established that KS makes the opponent see whatever Aizen wants them to see. I've heard some theorize that Aizen might've been using KS's Bankai ability here, which would result in the enemy seeing a self-delusion rather than an illusion of Aizen's making, which would explain why Aizen is surprised at what Yhwach sees, but until it's confirmed or shown in the anime, it's speculation.

>>280170830
>why does Aizen randomly spawn its sword during the fight with Yhwach?
because Ywach was seeing an illusion of fighting Ichigo and to match that illusion, Aizen needed a sword to fight with
>why does Yhwach assume that breaking his sword would cancel Kyouka Suigetsu
the main point of the fight is neither of them properly understand how the other's powers work and both assume they have the upper hand

>>280170922
>he main point of the fight is neither of them properly understand how the other's powers work and both assume they have the upper hand
Yhwach had Daten on Aizen. He considered him a SWP, he was threatening enough to unravel his plans because of being a wild card. How the fuck did this retard not understand how Aizen's powers, let alone Shinigami in general, work?

>>280170962
Speaking of that, since Yhwach KNEW how dangerous Aizen's KS is, why did that retard not send disguised Lloyd as a precaution to try and recruit Aizen in the Muken and went there himself? He took precautions with Yamamato but NOT Aizen? What the fuck Kubo.
>b-but Aizen would've known immediately that wasn't Yhwach
Yeah okay, whatever.

>>280170962
I think he assumed the Almighty would be able to see through all abilities, just like it was able to see through Ichibei's. He didn't think KS's illusions would be a problem for his eyes.
>>280170984
Recall that Aizen was considered a War Potential because of his massive reiatsu, not because of KS.

>>280170962
Why would he? Even Aizen was just making educated guesses about how his powers were evolving, and he didn't exactly leave a binder of notes for them to study as he got sealed. Accurate and reliable data about what Aizen can and cannot do simply does not exist anywhere in-universe

>>280162329 (OP)
Yhwach confused it, thinking it's from the past because the sword design is from SS and HM arc
but narutards are too stupid to get it

>>280170010
Kill a god? How can you kill a god? What grand and intoxicating innocence.

>>280171013
Why would assume that when he didn’t have access to the Almighty when he visited him in Muken?

>>280171013
>Recall that Aizen was considered a War Potential because of his massive reiatsu, not because of KS.
Which never turns out to be an issue. Fucking Mayuri can tinker with him with his hax technology.
>>280171016
They had up to date information on many other Shinigami that realistically they shouldn't have, since they watched from the shadows all this time. Otherwise why would they know of his "massive Reiatsu"? Assuming he can still use KS is common sense.

>>280170984
Yhwach: ...

Holy cope this arc should’ve never existed

>>280167987
>>280168095
Yes.
You can be backsided by a car even when finished crossing.
Next cope?

>>280170984
That was stupid. Yhwach had two twins that could turn into him. Instead he sends one twin to act as a distraction for Yamamoto and the other twin he sends to get killed by Zaraki. Yhwach was a fucking idiot.

>>280171051
"common sense" is "if a shinigami loses their zanpakuto they lose all of their associated powers."

>>280171139
No they do not. This has been seen time and time again. Their powers are inherent to their souls, the Zanpakuto are just a mere conduit.

>>280171139
If the Wadenreich was watching the Shinigami for thousands of years there's no way they would come to that conclusion. Toshiro is a living example of that not being so.

>>280171064
you should've never existed

>>280169898
Boruto had adult Sasuke crying over a fading dinosaur.

>>280168693
Remember when Vasto Lordes were supposed to be a huge deal even before becoming Arrancars?
Because Kubo sure as hell did not remember that was a thing at all.
Forgotten and relegated to data books and anime fillers written by people who at least gave more fuck than the author.

>>280171051
because that prison suit limits his Reiatsu
but massive Reiatsu would still be a threat

>>280171311
I remember. Did this shit at least get retconned or was it completely ignored? I recall one headcanon saying the Espada weren't REAL Vasto Lordes™, except Ulquiorra, because he was super duper powerful, so he was the actual Vasto Lorde™ Shinigami were supposed to be scared of in the lore.

>>280171139
Yamamoto literally fought without sword in HM arc

>>280171323
>his prison suit limits his Reiatsu
>Mayuri can control it to the point of canceling Aizen's attacks
>massive Reiatsu is still a threat because... I guess it is?
>even though his KS is intact and Yhwach's first invasion was thwarted by that
Genius.

>>280171311
Remember the Menos Grande retcon?

>>280171311
>>280171349
This shit was put out solely to build hype for the new enemies, there's no point on giving it any more thought. Kubo simply failed to deliver that hype. Except with Ulquiorra, but he was written to be special from the start. He didn't learn his lesson either. Remember Renji bragging to Jackie that he trained so he can fight "Aizen-level enemies"? Lmao

>>280171353
yeah, using kido, not his zanpakuto powers

>>280171430
>there's no point on giving it any more thought.
Just like with Bleach in general lol

>>280165244
>the thinkness of fanfic
fujo sister is too powerful...

>>280171430
You sounds like Renji

>>280171311
>>280171349
if you reread chapter 197 Toshiro seems to consider Vasto Lorde and Arrancar to be the same thing
the only difference is an Arrancar is bestowed a power from Aizen

>>280171430
Kubo was all build up and no pay off.

>>280171508
So Toshiro was just being retarded? Just like Shawlong?

>>280171372
prison suit makes Aizen's Reiatsu to be small, retard
since it's small, it's not a threat
are you this dumb?

>>280171532
Except the Wandenreich considered it a threat, but not KS. Glad you agree with me it's stupid.

>>280171545
and what do you think KS made of? absolutely right, it's made of Reiatsu
next question

>>280171589
Genuine question, are you retarded?

>>280171595
That might be the anon who thought the black moon was the hyogoku

>>280171517
it just means that Vasto Lorde and Arrancar are captain-level
you could call it slightly above captain or whatever, but the point is they can fight Shinigami captains on equal footing, so just call it captain-level

Speaking of Aizen using KS on Yhwach. Why did the dude not just permanently mess with Yhwach's sense of time and make him activate Almighty sooner than he should've? That would've been extremely clever to explain why his Almighty is not as powerful as it should be, not because his powers would go haywire, but because he activated it prematurely, making his powers weaker. This can be used to explain how he gets beaten despite his Godly powers.

>>280171653
Because Kubo is allergic to good writing. It's been proven that many others can write just as well if not better using his source material and lore, but don't let the bootlicking purists hear that, they'll have a fit.

>>280171595
he's posting on 4chan so he must be

>>280171595
Aizen as a person is being considered a threat by Wandenreich
this implies KS is also a threat, it's just wasn't stated

>>280165244
Why is there so much of this shit? Do they realize Ichigo is a kid?

>>280171741
Fujos literally do not care.

>>280171689
>this implies KS is also a threat, it's just wasn't stated
Gee, it sure would've been nice if the Wandenreich actually treated it as one. Especially when it turned out to be one the major reasons for his downfall. Yhwach and his army of goons were never exposed to it, but he just ignored it because I guess he's an arrogant retard. By the time he realizes the Schatten Bereich isn't working well it should've been a major wake-up call he fucked up bad, but he just goes "oh well" and moves on.

Kubo should've given KS a new weakness after Aizen's defeat. It's absolutely retarded that the only weakness, touching the blade before you're put under its effects, is removed once Aizen fuses with his Zanpakuto. Like, remember when Aizen himself said it all comes down to muh Reiatsu? Yhwach should've been able to just cancel it because he was much stronger than Aizen. But then I guess you're back to square one in how exactly can you write Yhwach being defeated as a God without hax being involved. I think Kubo did okay-ish with what he had, especially given the circumstances of his health and schedule.

>>280171741
does the word taboo mean nothing to you?

>>280171689
>this implies KS is also a threat
that's just your assumption. Their actual actions indicate they didn't think KS was something they needed to account for

>>280171653
pretty sure you see the future all the time, meaning Almighty activates all the time, just not the future changer ability
athough Yhwach does not always pay attention to the future, like when he got backstabbed by silver arrow

>>280170717
I don't like this picture one bit

>>280171788
>>280171983
Wandenreich listed Aizen as one of the Five War Potentials
so yes, they did treat Aizen as a threat
also the only person that has ever met Aizen was NaNaNa, but he was an arrogant dude

>>280172006
>you see the future all the time
>does not always pay attention to it
This is retarded. Also, it's been established the arrow is immune to Almighty.

>>280172052
attentionspan is a thing, retard
you sometimes do not pay attention to your professor in college, despite your professor constantly lecturing the class for hours

>>280172049
>so yes, they did treat Aizen as a threat
And they took no precautions in dealing with him. The head honcho himself went to negotiate like a retard, thinking he could somehow sway him to his cause instead of treating him like the serious threat he was.
>also the only person that has ever met Aizen was NaNaNa, but he was an arrogant dude
???
Are you fucking retarded? Yhwach met him personally. That's the entire point of this conversation. I swear, the fucking cretins I'm arguing with.

>>280172049
Yeah, Aizen, the guy with bigmclargehuge powerlevel that, as far as they knew, no longer had a his zanpakuto nor its powers, but was still a top tier master of kido

>>280172082
Nowhere is it implied he needs an "attentionspan" to trigger the Almighty. We've seen in his battle with Ichibe and Ichigo how he casually uses it while talking and moving.

>>280172052
it's both actually
Yhwach can still dodge the attack from behind even if he couldn't forsee it, hence he didn't pay attention

TYBW was going so well until they got to the Crystal Palace or whatever. It's like Kubo ran out of (good) ideas the moment he killed off Squad Zero.

>>280172126
but during that those fights he did pay attention to his opponents
not for Uryu's arrow though

it's so ridiculously easy to defeat Ichigo & Orihime in the final battle

>>280172247
he taps out with a single thrust

>>280172085
Yhwach really was that confident in his abilities

>>280172307
Too bad for him. He wasn't with Yamamato.

>>280172125
>no longer had a his zanpakuto
merged with his zanpakuto*

>>280162329 (OP)
anime shall expand it and make it kino, trust the plan

>>280172085
yes, Yhwach asked Aizen nicely instead of forcing him into submission
this shows he acknowledges Aizen's powers

>>280172395
And it sure would've been nice if he was careful around a supposed equal, knowing what he can do with said powers. He even went and drove the point in his fight against Yamamato, calling him a prideful retard for refusing Orihime's help when he should've fought at full power with all the tricks he had up his sleeve, which is something Yhwach did. Until he didn't.

>>280171307
Kek, are you serious?

>>280162329 (OP)
speedreaders and brainlets filtered

>>280172488
I am. I'm also sure he loved that dino more than he ever did Sakura.

>>280172418
okay, let's see all his tricks
>against Ichibei
>power stealers
>Auswahlen
>Almighty
so against Aizen he had power stealers + Auswahlen

>>280172602
What tricks, all he had to do was not potentially expose himself to KS. He had body doubles he could send for something as simple as a negotiation. Is this so hard to grasp?

>>280169387
Sasuke was the post-final boss and he worked. What didn't work was the layers of real main villain fakeouts after pain. Nagato/Yahiko/Obito should've been a single character and then skip to Madara as the final boss.

>>280172602
He only had bankai stealing.
>auswahlen
He was going to kill his troops just for Kyouka Suigetsu to do what it did anyway?

>>280162329 (OP)
Are you retarded or something? First of all, it's not even stupid. Second of all, it's not even close to the stupidest thing in Bleach, and not even in the top 100 of stupidest things in a shonen. Read more manga (slowly), bakayarou.

>>280172634
>body doubles
he only had two persons that have body doubles ability: Loyd killed by Kenpachi, and Royd was already being sent to Yamamoto

>>280172728
I mean, yeah? That's the point, he had them. Loyd could've copied Yhwach's abilities and went to Aizen instead of dying like a moron with his two irrelevant buddies. Especially since Royd was strong enough to pummel Kenpachi on his own. Or vice-versa.

>>280172641
the powers he stole via Auswahlen will remain in him for quite a long time
he could go to Royal Realm right after that and the powerup would still be in effect

>>280172639
the ten tails/kaguya works as a final boss, but somewhere around, say, when Naruto was learning sage mode, the old frogs should have mentioned "the goal of akatsuki is to combine all the tailed beasts into a terrible thing that not even the sage of six paths could destroy, and it is extremely foolish of their leader to think he can control it" and then have that idea reiterated a few more times by the zombie hokage and the sage of six paths himself

>>280172560
LMAO
What the fuck is happening in Naruto? Also that filename KEK

>>280172753
no, only Royd was strong enough to fight Kenpachi
Loyd was literally killed by him
and putting into account he'll get killed if he meets Aizen

>>280172560
What the fuck is this

>>280172872
Anon, your reading comprehension is lacking. Loyd could've just copied Yhwach's powers before leaving for the first invasion and he still would've beaten Kenpachi. Royd was just strong on his own. Since Yhwach went to Aizen just to negotiate, he could've sent either to make sure that KS couldn't be used against him. Whether they get killed or not doesn't matter if they serve their purpose, and even that killing it just an assumption you're making. I genuinely cannot comprehend how this is so hard to grasp to you.

>>280172925
to be fair Royd wasn't strong enough to steal Yamamoto's Bankai, Yhwach said himself that only him is strong enough to steal it
so no, Y Schrift can't really make you as strong as Yhwach

>>280172925
Aizen will 100% kill a weaker being that tries to dominate him
he literally attacked prison guards

>>280172895
Sasuke giving a heartfelt goodbye to his yoshi

>>280173019
And what does this have do with the conversation? Loyd also can copy the abilities of their opponent in the moment. Sure, it's not perfect since the opponent can just not use their full strength but that's irrelevant. Their powers are pretty irrelevant as long as Aizen thinks he's talking to Yhwach, and he really has no reason to think otherwise, considering Yamamato of all people was fooled by Royd, and he knew Yhwach much better than Aizen ever could.
>>280173049
Negotiation is not domination. Yhwach just wanted to check on Aizen and see if he could somehow entice him to help him. Or maybe stay neutral, idk, doesn't really matter to my point. Also, Aizen never attacked them, they got too close of their own volition. Those nobodies definitely never registered in his mind enough for him to even bother with that.

>>280172895
That's Sasuke saying goodbye to edo tensei Blue from Jurassic World.

>>280162329 (OP)
>Already saw the future
>Didn't check the future after that future
>Another villain offed by the "I'M INVINCIBLE, OH NO MY ARROGANCE IS MY DOWNFALL".

Why do many authors fall for this trap of making the villains too powerful and they have to gimp them by having them do stupid shit.

>>280173160
Because it happens IRL as well to powerful and intelligent people. Human hubris is very real and damaging.

>>280173176
Yeah, Kubo would know.

>>280173160
only arrogant retards want to try and rule the world in the first place

>>280173080
Loyd is gonna get killed and Yhwach will have to meet Aizen in person
but this is all irrevelant, because Kubo's logic is
>his subordinates fight opponent's weaklings
>while Yhwach fights the boss

>>280173160
because we're talking about god-level being here

>>280173516
>Loyd is gonna get killed and Yhwach will have to meet Aizen in person
Just because you assume so?
>but this is all irrevelant
It's extremely relevant. Because exposing himself to KS threw a massive wrench in his plan. Kubo's logic is retarded, plan and simple.
>his subordinates fight opponent's weaklings while Yhwach fights the boss
Royd had no issues in dealing with SWP Kenpachi. And only got overwhelmed once Yamamato went Bankai. Yhwach never treated him as a boss, he was never a SWP to begin with. But he still tread carefully to avoid a potentially dangerous foe.

Isn't the simplest explanation that Kubo didn't plan this shit out? He probably didn't envision the Almighty being a thing then, and certainly wouldn't have planned Aizen's KS actually being crucial in beating him.

Ruki/a/ reigns

>>280171866
There was multiple clever ways for Yhwach to be defeated that would have made sense but wasn't delivered upon. Uryu’s Schrift being used instead of the plot arrow would have been a great way to beat Yhwach especially after all the hype it was getting. But Kubo os allergic to good writing.

>>280172560
Is that Blue?

Did Sasuke become Chris Pratt

Wtf is happening in Boruto?

>>280172560
I pray every day that Kubo somehow doesn't reach the lows of Boruto if Hell verse happens, since it will also feature the MC's overpowered brat.

Reminder that Yhwach lost to Sasakibe

>>280174141
>anime adds a moment in a flashback to make Sasakibe do something
>all it does is cause more issues because the staff/Kubo wanted a minor character to actually have contributed something to the story instead of being complete dead weight
Who will Chad defeat in cour 4?

>>280174141
Makes Sasakibe getting easily beaten by Soul Society arc Ichigo more retarded.

>>280174219
If you go far back enough in the manga to find stuff to nitpick you'll realize lots of things are retarded. It's not a hard thing to explain: Kubo never intended for Sasakibe to have any meaningful role. Hell, originally not even Yamamato was supposed to be a big thing. He just had seniority, not overwhelming power, to command.

>>280174219
It makes perfect sense if you didn't speedread Sasakibe flashbacks, the point was not him being strong but him being useful

>>280174300
he literally took on two of the strongest captains pretty easily in the same arc, stop making up stuff

>>280174302
>the point was not him being strong but him being useful
He literally scarred Yamamato, and the latter was so impressed with his Bankai he eventually made him his vice only because he refused to be Captain. Wtf are you on about he wasn't strong.

>>280174340
And the point is that Sasakibe would be even stronger if he had been training under Yamamoto, but he refused because he wanted to be his right arm who could do things that he couldn't (like sneaking up on someone thanks to him not drawing attention)

>>280174302
>Speedread

Okay let's play this game. Saskibe was so powerful that he could have easily been a captain himself but he willingly chose to serve underneath Yamamoto because he was he Yamamotos bottom bitch for life. He was around Ukitake level. But he gets one punched and no diffed by Soul Society arc Ichigo. This same Sasakibe delivered a crucial blow on Yamamoto thousands of years ago.

Not powerful my ass.

Stop making up excuses for bad writing. Just say it was a retcon that made no sense.

>>280174404
How does this make any sense? Being strong and being useful are not mutually exclusive. In fact, in Bleach, being strong IS how you are useful. He was strong, but when introduced he was just a weak jobber who Ichigo no diffed. That's fine, since Kubo didn't plan for Sasakibe to do anything then, since he had other priorities. I swear, some of you people are taking crazy pills.

>>280174409
>This same Sasakibe delivered a crucial blow on Yamamoto thousands of years ago.

*Yhwach

>>280174409
>He was around Ukitake level
Not at all, he was average captain level, he would be Ukitake level if he actually was trained by Yamamoto, probably
Ichigo SS was very powerful thanks to his mindset and he surprised punched him, stuff like that happens in fights, it's not author's fault that he doesn't dictate fights solely about characters' power level
>>280174435
If Sasakibe was stronger, it would be hard for him to hide his reiatsu. He would be also more famous so Yhwach would pay more attention to him and Sasakibe possibly wouldn't be able to sucker punch him from behind, does that make sense?
That's was the whole point of his flashback and why he chose not to train under Yamamoto, he didn't want to be strong, he wanted to do things that Yamamoto wouldn't be able to

>>280174471
So then he just pretended to get knocked on his ass by Ichigo?? Cause that's what you're implying.

>>280174486
I never said that? He saw a random soul reaper he had never heard about, wanted to quickly dispatch him to continue his mission of pursuing Renji and then got knocked out because he turned out to be much stronger than he expected. You shouldn't view this as power level vs power level, characters make mistakes and are punished for it, no matter how strong they might be

>>280167181
Father and son have the same taste in women.

>>280168682
As i said here >>280167325
it just isn't dumber than this part of the story or how Ichigo is just everything you aren't gonna be able to refute this without going
>Durr diaper i bet!
>Durr tranny!

>>280169593
It's not an apology when im just saying it was more expected to happen, and it's still dumb but at least it had some sort of setup for the retardation unlike this shit.

>>280169799
just to be placed on the back shelf with Chad

The only ones that mattered in terms of writing
>Ichigo
>Somewhat Uryu
>Rukia
>Kenpachi
>Rest of soul reapers
and at the very bottom is any of the human gang cause Kubo does not care enough to write about them, they will always be overshadowed

>>280174486
The only rational answer was OMZ said it was on sight if he ever saw Sasakibe

>>280174785
Personally, I'd have the list be:
>Ichigo
>Rukia
>Aizen
>Uryuu
>Kisuke
>Mayuri
>Yhwach
>Orihime
as a combination of panel time given, how developed they were and how significant they were to the story. If you wanna include dead characters I guess Ulquiorra and Gin could fit after Orihime.

>>280174856
Honestly yeah i see it, and it's ridiculous people get pissy about people who say that Soul Society/Subsitute Shinigami arc were the good parts of the story (Mainly the latter for me) because thats where you would ever last see anything good for the humans in terms of importance or writing.

Chad didn't become a fucking nobody
Uryu didn't become a gigantic retard that made the most retarded plan of a betrayal
Orihime was somewhat interesting

It was a good setup that could've been Ichigo/Rukia/Orihime/Uryu/Chad taking on the hollows and solving shit with the a weird hat n' clogs guy who was supposedly gonna be a villain (wonder what happened to that?) along with Rukia trying not to be found out by Soul Society.

>>280174934
What about Renji?

>>280174962
I have no clue, just a follower of Byakuya a typical bad guy but was just gonna be jealous of Ichigo from his power and his way of telling people above him "no"

>>280174962
>>280174985
Renji really is such a shitty character. Him and Sado should've never existed, or at the very least they should've bene kept out of the main cast with Tatsuki replacing them.

>>280175049
I agree with Renji being shit, but Sado? He was really good back then it's just Kubo being a fag when he threw him into the back of the bus.

>>280175066
I mean, if we're gonna assume Sado gets written well you can do that for any character at such an early point in the story. The whole setup of them having a cat and mouse game as they solve mysteries and issues in the human world with Urahara's help is such a drastic change it wouldn't really be Bleach anymore.

>>280175138
>if we're gonna assume Sado gets written well you can do that for any character at such an early point in the story
But that was the bigger difference between him and Renji, what exactly made Renji Interesting in the beginning? Not much besides being Rukias old old friend from way long ago then they never spoke again.
Compare that with Chad who was much more than just being Ichigos best friend.

>>280174962
>What about Renji

The cuck that cries for big brother Ichigo to protect his waifu and his receding hairline.

>>280175210
I'm not gonna touch on shipping stuff cause i'm genuinely trying to touch on the writing, but realistically that is basically what Renji boiled down to in way. Heres how his character was
>Acted like a psycho villain when dealing with an "old friend"
>Seemed Jealous of Ichigos Power whenever he thought of him
>Had no balls to take the initiative himself to save Rukia in someway didn't just have to be fighting
>Begged someone else to do all the work
This is not a character i would ever respect, not a man i would ever respect, it was pathetic.
To which i wanna compare this back to Sado who
>Grew up fighting off people cause they were cunts
>Great grandfather who gave him comforting words and advice
>Stops fighting from that and just takes hits like they're nothing
>Met Ichigo and got more comforting words to which he promises to have his back no matter what

>>280175049
the solution to poorly written characters is to write them better, not get rid of them

>>280175210
>big brother Ichigo to protect his waifu
Now that you brought it up, did Renji ever return the favor? Ishida and Rukia did more for Orihime than he ever did. They barely even interacted in canon, I'm pretty sure. A shame, since his partnership with Uryuu in HM was pretty good. I wish we got to see more stuff like that, like for example Rukia and Orihime or Ichigo and Sado working together.

>>280175284
>did Renji ever return the favor?
Best he did was come to Hueco mundo that was it, and it wasn't even really his idea anyway more Rukias which was about helping Ichigo.
This is why i call Renji fucking pathetic as a person.

>>280167823
Are Bleach girls show nips?

>>280174807

>>280175279
You might have a point if Kubo didn't create so many characters in the first place.

>>280175276
Funny thing is I don't even hate or dislike RenRuki. I just think it's hilarious dogging on Renji because he was that pathetic.

>This is not a character i would ever respect.

That probably why it's so hilarious making fun of him. Good for him bagging Rukia in the end though, the pity sex must have been... well it happened.

>>280175464
Fuck it, ill go in and say renruki sucks anyway but yes its funny to dog on the Pathetic faggot.

Cuck him or whatever, it's well deserved since its honestly his whole character anyway with how much of a coward he is, hell thats how i took the final fight as well since he just straight up disappears and never fought since that was just Aizens illusion.
>Don't worry Ichigo! I'll pull you on up to go fight Yhwach!
>Haha me?... uh good luck i'm a total fucking pussy!

Dragon Ball = Diego Maradona
One Piece = Lionel Messi
Naruto = Cristiano Ronaldo
Bleach = Ronaldinho

>>280175515
Kek, you're right. Having fucking Renji back up Ichigo instead of someone life Rukia or the whole gang honestly felt like something out of a filler arc. Will the anime change that I wonder?

>>280175556
>Will the anime change that I wonder?
Doubtful honestly i mean they're keeping in the silver arrow so...

>>280175334
So if I'm reading this right. OMZ was controlling Ichigo's power level like a sink faucet by steadily letting it drip out but as soon as OMZ saw Sasakibe he turned the wheel to go as high as it could possibly go.

And that explains why Sasakibe was s jobber. Makes perfect sense.

I thought you fags were lying about Renji being jealous of Ichigo.
Then I read the mini translated short story of the Aizen aftermath somewhere with Renji being jealous of Dangai’s power.
I don’t get the point of characters like this, it’s a waste of time and it’s not funny whatsoever.

I’m glad the anime fillers and movie improved him because Kubo shit the bed with poor writing. He actually feels like a trusted bro there.

>>280172560
this is from Sasuke Retsuden though

>>280171307
Some people really just love dinosaurs man

>>280175543
Bleach follows Dragonball more faithfully than the others

>>280175613
He was literally seething in the Soul Society arc remembering Ichigo and his power boost basically going
>Grrrrrrrrr!
LOL

>>280175613
How would Renji even be aware of Dangai Ichigo's power? The fighting took place in SS. Renji along with everyone else went to FKT first after they came out of HM.

Renji was a MVP in the hell verse movie. If it was up to Kubo he would’ve had him do nothing.

>>280175686
What did he really do in that besides send Ichigo back to the human world?

>>280175674
When was it exactly? I forgot.

>>280175613
I don't understand how he has loyal fans. It's like being a fan of Yamcha but more pathetic. At least Yamcha was a bro. Renji is just sad sack the character.

And people try to hate on Uryu even though he always was loyal to his friends and he only played the role of a traitor because he was trying to take the initiative of killing Yhwach by himself.

>>280175756
Just right after Gins report back to everyone got around and he told Rukia in her cell
>Oh btw one of the intruders had orange hair lol
and after that he started rememberings his hard loss against ichigo in the Human world to which he goes to fight him and is like
>Muh dick is totally bigger now! I'm supeeeer powerful! 5x stronger~
Only to get his ass beat and cry
>Save rukia waaaaah!

>>280175729
He helped beat one of the villains sidekicks, warn Ichigo about his siblings being in trouble, transported Ichigo out of hell while everyone else KO’ed and sacrificed himself.

>>280175783
Sasuke also has fans.

>>280175806
ah okay thats a lot better then cause that was the most i remembered from him in the movie besides Rukia being the quickest to try and save Ichigos sibling and Chad showing up to get the 1000 degree burn protecting Rukia and Ichigos siblings.

>>280175783
Uryuu haters are just that, haters. Dude had no issue in going to SS to help a Shinigami girl he barely knew despite being a loner and a Quincy. Was so nice to Orihime and even Nemu in SS shippers saw it fit to pair them. Went to great risks to restore his powers just to help his friends again. Did nothing wrong in HM, sparing Cirucci, saving Loly, protecting Orihime with his life and even trying to protect Ichigo from himself. Tried his best to help Ichigo in FB. And then went on his personal quest to defeat Yhwach as he admits to Haschwalth how much the group changed him. Dude is more of a knight in shining armor than Ichigo ever was.

>>280175921
Every character has haters retard.

>>280175921
And then you remember how he was featured by Kubo in the final chapter, or not at all in the Hell one shot. Poor dude can't catch a break. As if being a spare in the shipping wars wasn't bad enough.

>>280175921
It's more about his plan when he went to be a double agent with the Quincies, it was a shitty plan man.

>>280175921
I guess a lot of them are mad because he "killed" Senjumaru. Even though she was acting like a complete bitch with her eugenics babble and she's not really dead.

>>280175966
This happens because a severe lack of development. When Renji came in he took over both Chad and Uryu roles in manga and in all the extra content in Bleach.

>>280175981
I mean the plan did involve him killing himself. He was desperate, it was stupid but he saw no other option and decided sacrificing himself was the way to go to stop Yhwach.

>>280176033
there was no need to pretend to play switch sides then is the thing, cause everyone is going very far to stop Yhwach.

>>280176054
>>280176033
wait, let me fix that, everyone BUT Renji is going very far to stop Yhwach.

>>280176054
Uryu thought that the responsibility as a Quincy lied on his shoulders and his shoulders alone. After reading his grandfather's diary, Soken did him no favors and pretty much placed that responsibility onto him.

Which makes Ryuken’s reasoning for not wanting Uryu to get involved in being a Quincy all the more reasonable but Uryu wanted his father's approval so that instead pushed him into getting more involved in becoming a Quincy.

>>280176148
*to deal with Yhwach lied on his shoulders and his shoulders alone.

>>280176148
Yes thats understandable and all, but he had already learned better of what his Grandfather said to him before of working together with the soul reapers which was what Ichigo reminded him in their fight against the Menos.

But that entire thing felt like it was thrown away, which doesn't make sense for a person like Uryu.

>>280175838
Sasuke was a legit emo traitorous jackass though.

>>280170922
>because Ywach was seeing an illusion of fighting Ichigo and to match that illusion, Aizen needed a sword to fight with
But he doesn't. Kyuoka Suigetsu controls the 5 senses, Yhwach can just be slapping air and he wouldn't know better, that's why the sword is so broken.

Just because someone is righteous doesn’t mean they’re should automatically be more popular. Otherwise Superman would be more popular than Batman.

>>280176252
They're not talking about wanting Uryu to be more popular, it's more about some of the unnecessary hate Uryu gets.

Which is reasonable a bit, but he's still stupid for the TYBW crap he pulled.

>>280176224
Yeah but Uryu’s didn't really want his friends to get hurt. That and by the time he found out about Yhwach the war had already started. The Sereitei just lost their leader. I'm sure at that point trying to approach any Soul Reaper with any insider knowledge he might of had from reading about the Wadenreich from his Grandfather's diary would result in him being placed in the Maggots Nest as a precautionary measure.

>>280176321
>I'm sure at that point trying to approach any Soul Reaper with any insider knowledge he might of had from reading about the Wadenreich from his Grandfather's diary would result in him being placed in the Maggots Nest as a precautionary measure.
That 100% would not happen by having this go to Ichigo and to them, they would noooooot want to do this to one of Ichigos friends especially during a war.

>>280171653
I was going to reply that KS only controls the 5 senses and not your sense of time but you're right Aizen can just randomly do that in TYBW.
Silly Kubo.

>>280174300
>Hell, originally not even Yamamato was supposed to be a big thing. He just had seniority, not overwhelming power, to command.
??????????

>>280176364
There are more than 5 human senses, and KS seems to control all of them.

>>280174486

>>280176348
Ichigo wasn't around though he was fighting Quilge in Hueco Mundo alongside Urahara. Maybe if he told Yourichi if he could find her. Rukia and Renji could also work, if the Shinigami were willing to listen to him and allowed him to go to the Sereitei but everyone would be on high alert because Uryu is a Quincy and they just got invaded.

It's be like how America treated the Japanese citizens post Pearl Harbor or the Arabs the day after 911.

>>280176286
That’s every character. Look at how much shit Renji is getting in this very thread.

>>280176451
They would not treat Uryu that way though to the point of placing him in a prison
>Oh whats this?
>Your handing us big insider info to help us?
>Ohhh yeah thats right your ichigos friend! Thanks!
To start some shit with one of Ichigos friend who is helping them out would be a super super super retarded move and make no sense

>>280176473
Renji is getting shit cause he actually is a total faggot of a character, quite a large difference from Uryu when it came to discussing the two.

>>280176416
>the most terrible zanpakuto
>the oldest and greatest of them all
Ichibeibros...

>>280176486
This is the same SS who cast Orihime away because of Aizen's ruse though. They absolutely can be selfish retards.

>>280176486
I mean the Soul Society has done stupid and retarded shit before especially if the Council of 46 hear about a Quincy having insider knowledge. They probably might arrest him and turn him over to Mayuri to find out how his abilities work and see if they could counter some of the Wadenreich's abilities.

>>280176545
That was under different circumstances cause when you listen to what they say it was a bit reasonable take
>She must've been killed maybe
>No! She healed my wounds her spiritual pressure is still here
>Uh what? well she must've turned traitor cause she wasn't Kidnapped either then considering she healed your wounds and our people died/injured
and this wasn't really a point for Ichigo where he could totally make a huge shitshow either in the soul society about this cause his power wasn't as big as it was then and now

>>280176569
Oh i get they have but that was with their old Central 46 (who was in control by Aizen). Then now you have Yamamoto who is dead too and taken over by someone who seemed more reasonable shunsui.

>>280175842
>Chad showing up to get the 1000 degree burn protecting Rukia and Ichigos siblings.
Lmao what was the point of this

>>280176652
>but that was with their old Central 46

The novels state that the Council is more or less the same as the old one because many of it's old members were family and they share the same views. So they very much are the same retards.

>>280176683
i dunno that movie was all over the place honestly

Renji has fans because outside of the manga he was always with Rukia and Ichigo. All that filler, ova, and movie stuff skyrocketed his popularity.

>>280176652
>well she must've turned traitor cause she wasn't Kidnapped either then considering she healed your wounds and our people died/injured
This shit was so retarded. What the fuck did those two retards who escorted her through the Senkaimon even say? Did they forget how Ulquiorra ambushed them and they were alive only because of Orihime? One of them even fucking saw it . What was Kubo thinking.

>>280176719
The novels can state whatever they want when the Manga and anime are showing something else.

>>280176749
Well with whatever they said it must've sounded like a kidnapping/Death to them, but when Ichigo entered in saying her Spiritual pressure was still around him from healing his wounds last night that totally changes everything cause what does that really sound like?
How does all that stuff happen there with the escorts and whatever they said, but then this happens? The only conclusion that could come from that is "damn i guess shes a traitor then" cause lets face it the way she willingly decided to go was fucking retarded. He left, the escorts are alive, all she has is this bracelet and told to say goodbye to someone. Run to Urahara you dumb fuck.

>>280176430
Strange that he only uses the time dilation vs Yhwach when that alone is enough to handle literally every threat in the series that isn't immortal and unable to be killed.
He didn't need any plans to suppress Yama, just mess with Yama's sense of time and cut his head off.

As an aside I was checking the chapter where Aizen explains his sword to Unohana. Aizen and Gin teleport to the Hill and Tosen brings Renji/Rukia there.
Why would Aizen not just instantly kill Renji here? The difference in power is so great that it would be nice strangling a baby.
Hell he can just KS Renji and behead him while Renji is talking to an Aizen illusion. He controls Renji's sense of touch along with everything else so he could just walk up and take Rukia out of his arms if he didn't want to kill Renji for some bizarre reason.

>>280176832
The circumstances make it crystal clear she was forced. There really is not any other way to interpret this unless the escorts were brainwashed, idk maybe thinking she somehow turned on them, knocked them out and left with that Arrancar. At least it would've made sense. Also, Orihime not contacting ANYONE or just leaving a message is also retarded. Oh wait, but she did! She told Rangiku and Toshiro to take out the trash in writing and also penned down Goodbye Halcyon Days there. Kubo proves a second time with Uryuu's own "betrayal" how incompetent he is at writing these kinds of scenarios.

>>280176749
They could just be two assholes who feel shown up by some random human girl and this is their way of getting revenge.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=75oj8DaTD9I&pp=ygUMSWNoaWhpbWUgaHVn

Best scene in the movie.

>>280177019
>The circumstances make it crystal clear she was forced
It really does not cause none of it makes a slick of logical sense applying reasoning to learning all that. Why force her to heal ichigo? Why leave behind a paper that says take out the trash? No one else was near her when she did those things or even Ichigo would've sensed a second bit of presence yet didn't.
>Orihime not contacting ANYONE or just leaving a message is also retarded
Exactly, she left something so fucking useless for Rangiku but didn't leave a fucking thing for Urahara at least? You know, the smartest person on your side?

This is the best arc of the series but at the same time it has everything bad post-Substitute. I think the series would be better if he built on Substitute instead of the format he adopted from SC onwards.

>>280177034
Makes zero sense. She was treated respectfully by the Kido Corps (I believe they even called her Inoue-sama) and they were sent by Ukitake, who was also a respectful to her, and had such subordinates overall.

>>280177169
No it’s the worst arc in Bleach.

>>280177210
It's the best one. Features the best villains, hypest moments and has better pacing than Hueco mundo. Yes, the pacing in this arc is bad, but the Arrancar arc was dreadful

>>280177295
LOL

>>280177116
>we were sent to escort this girl from SS to the human world
>an Arrancar ambushes us, one of my friends gets struck down, she immediately heals him before the girl tells me to run as well
>everything goes blank afterwards, but me and my buddy are alive and she's gone
>after the report it's assumed she's just gone or dead, except she was present in the human world after the fact
>I guess that just because she never left any hint she was being coerced that just means she suddenly wanted to go to be Aizen's bitch, idk maybe she fell for Ulquiorra or something, it's clear she's a traitor, case closed boys
I think the worse part in this is how Ulquiorra remarks to Ichigo in his first fight how curious it is that even he had some doubts about her loyalty. You know, the only person in the world beside Tatsuki that shouldn't. It's just really stupid.

>>280177409
>I guess that just because she never left any hint she was being coerced
As i said Ichigo for sure would've felt a second presence but never did. So they could either go with
A. Shes a traitor
or
B. She's so retarded she forgot to give us all a hint or something of coercion?

>>280177295
>Features the best villains, hypest moments and has better pacing than Hueco mundo.

That would be the Soul Society arc. TYBW had cardboard cut outs for villians and a bunch of jobbers with less personalities than the lesser Arrancars.

>>280175804
I looked through chapter 70 to 79, I don't see anything like that

>>280177378
This arc has all the bad stuff but it's better than the last two arcs that preceded it

>>280177470
Canonically Orihime is one of the smartest students in Karakura. More so than Ichigo IIRC. Uryuu did the same thing, not telling anyone of his plan, despite supposedly trusting his friends so much. Guess he's not so smart after all. Or he was just blinded by his pride, idk, an explanation would've been nice.

>>280177504
It's during the Lieutenants meeting right before the fight between the two around 94 here (it's mainly an addition in the anime but he's remembering Ichigo and quietly seething about him before leaving the room) then meets up with Ichigo

>>280177492
In the weekly releases they felt like villains. But most people didn't follow Bleach during those years. And in retrospect it was quite obvious the tone of the arc, they were more like antagonists, rather than outright villains

>>280177580
Just cause Kubo shows "ohhh look! They got top grades in class!" does not mean they're fucking tactical geniuses at all.

>>280177555
Just by virtue of its characters Arrancar beats TYBW. Both had stupid plots, but it doesn't really matter.

>JOBzen

>>280177622
Being a tactical genius is one thing, but being retarded, especially in such a crucial moment, is another.

>>280177807
I pretty much agree anyway, they're fucking stupid

Does Kubo not have extra writers to help him???

Bleach might be the only anime where the main antagonists fear the FMC this much.

>>280177946
You may as well toss a coin and see if Kubo will listen to anyone, sometimes he does which ends up not helping, sometimes he doesn't when it could've helped.

Opposite day for this shit lol

>>280177982
Nobody fears Orihime, get a hold of yourself my dude.

>>280178057
They're making up delusions now KEK

>>280177999
I think the worse part is how the novels, which weren't written by him, aren't really any better in terms of storytelling quality.

>>280170010
Don't make the bad guy a god if you can't write his defeat without asspulls and retardation.

>>280178151
Anything overseen by Kubo turns to shit.

>>280177982
because aizen and yuha are both incels

>>280178200
Is that why the old anime, for all its faults, was so good at times?

>>280178248
Same shit

>>280175804
>>280175674
my personal interpretation of Renji vs Ichigo fight is that Renji was testing out Ichigo's powers and what's his plan to save Rukia, since it's not possible for Renji himself to do it on his own with his lack of strength
and that's why Renji was surprised when Ichigo managed to beat 11th Division's lieutenant, he was thinking "so there is still a hope"

>>280178513
It just didn't feel that way especially with >>280175613
being a bit of extra evidence he is jealous.
Lets say as well it was him "Testing" Ichigo. It's still really stupid and pathetic, cause he didn't try to look for any other alternatives? His only one possibly being "Pfft! Byakuya is totally begging for you to not be executed right now" like really? Just hoping someone else does everything for you?

>>280172560
geeeeg

>>280175613
Actually that makes his line about beating Aizen tier enemies make sense

>>280178601
I personally wouldn't call it jealousy, just a realization of one's own powerlessness
>"...The bastard!" Renji felt in his heart a tumultuous brew of emotions, that they had no choice but to rely on Ichigo, who wasn't even from Soul Society, that he had use this kind of technique, and that he was himself so weak.
>"Ichigo...!" Chad also lowered his head, shaking at his feelings of remorse towards his own weakness.
besides it's not written by Kubo

>>280179313
Okay fair point on that, i guess, but i still believe hes had a jealousy over Ichigo and kinda stems way back from like chapter 52 over seeing a human like expression on her face that even he points out. Didn't seem really disgusted by it, more like "How the fuck did someone else get her like this?"

Then as i said here >>280177587 as well did his jealousy go a little more up. As anime added the moments of him remembering his fight with Ichigo in the human world and seethed about it, it seemed like that pretty much was what he was doing in the Manga as well when he is hearing about how he just cleared past Ikkaku in squad 11.

>>280179599
>human expression
Wtf is that suppose to mean. are Shinigami expressions different? If this was Arrancar I guess I could understand but this shit makes no sense. Many Shinigami aren't so different from humans in how they act and emote. Y'know, since they're good guys.

>>280178192
Alas, this is the fate of every big shonen. Even One Piece has godshit now.

>>280177692
TYBW anime is so fucking ugly

>>280179696
>Wtf is that suppose to mean
It's meaning making her feel alive i suppose? Back to her own self which Renji was never really able to do in the story of him and Rukia.
Which is why it's jealousy but ends with him just getting her anyway lol
>Try to make her feel alive again
Nope Ichigo did that
>He'll surpass Byakuya
Nope Ichigo did that
>He'll save Rukia
Nope Ichigo did that

On and on that went and it would've been understandable HAD Renji actually tried something before Ichigo but he never did.
She gets taken in by Kuchiki clan? Nah he'll just leave it be
She's gonna be executed and stuff? Nah won't do a thing till Ichigo shows up doing pretty much a shit ton of the work
Now for surpassing Byakuya? I'll give him that he tried training before but... that was about it and just submitted under him.

>>280179696
At this point in the story Shinigami were portrayed arrogant bastards who are above such petty things as "emotions". You know, since they are Death Gods 100+ years old. Renji is just shocked how much Ichigo influenced Rukia in two months and a half. Has nothing to do with this weird rant >>280179958

>>280180057
It was literally in his backstory so how is it a weird rant?

>>280179958
You're twisting so many things, you're probably just a butthurt IchiRuki shipper

Why are the characters so retarded?

>>280180144
I am not an ichiruki fag their ship makes no sense anyway in terms of writing but whatever.

I was simply making a point that Renji is just pathetic.

>>280180149
Because Kubo himself is retarded
>>280180195
I think anime Renji is a good character

>>280180320
Renji is a shit character
>Loses to everyone
>Never tried a thing to help his smol midget waifu
>Begs others to do the work
>Pretty cowardice
the list is just ridiculous with him i never saw an appeal not even by design wise, the only other character i hate after him would have to be Toshiro then Rukia at 3rd

>>280180383
I said ANIME renji. I know manga Renji is worse. Plus he has many funny moments.

>>280180517
Ah, so you mean Filler Renji, whatever i still couldn't care. Just turned into a gag character on the level of Kon.

>>280180537
He’s pretty good in the movies too.
Manga Renji is a wet fart.

>>280180643
Maybe in fade to black (okay movie) and Hellverse (awful movie) as far as i remember cause i know he was just in the background for the memories movies being antagonistic basically only to just switch sides not much else, don't think he did much of anything in the second besides giving people a ride.

>>280180718
I’m talking about renji in fade to black and hell verse. He was a decent character in those.

>>280180795
and i'll agree there but thats about where it ends, its not really enough to remove the footprint of what Kubo made him as.

>Rukia marries the guy who abused her.
Kek

>>280180873
Possibly the most realistic piece of writing that Kubo has ever done.

>>280180873
Everyone has abused everyone in someway or another in this crap so it really doesn't matter to me on that.

It's more how sad that must be that Renji is the "I'll do nothing and have everyone do everything for me" character

>>280180924
>It's more how sad that must be that Renji is the "I'll do nothing and have everyone do everything for me" character.
Hey atleast he tried later on.

>>280180978
Kek

>Ichiruki cucks are THIS desperate

>>280180873
He never abused her. They were also estranged for decades. The absolute reaching.

>>280175210
This wouldn’t be bad if Ichigo wasn’t a 15 year old. Weird image of a full grown man kneeling to a child is just retarded.

>>280181095
Renji! Get off the computer!

>>280181095

>>280181145
Funny joke, anon.
>>280181204
She was in her Gigai. And he was just trying to get her to come with him, since she was just worsening her ensuing sentence by resisting. This is pointed out.

>>280181204
>>280181095
Everyone has literally abused one another in this shit lol and they all don't care afterwards anyway becomes an after thought

Evil

>>280172841
>happening
That's a filler episode from 15 years ago

Honestly the only ship/s i could care about is Yoruichi and Ichigo or Yoruichi and Soi fon cause
Student x Teacher is hot as fuck PROVE ME WRONG

>>280181633
Yoruichi and Ichigo is meh. Bleach has much better kino ships for a battle shounen, it just happens like none of them are canon. Or I guess were canon but they're dead, like GinRan. RenRuki isn't even that bad.

>>280181706
I don't give a fuck none of them i care for, i don't care for muh deep or whatever and none of them are actually that anyway. I just look for whichever one is hot and go for that which is what those two are.

>>280169512
Yeah because the Komamura, Bazz B, and Ichibei fights were somehow bad. No one takes your shitposts seriously

>>280171307
Still better than Sus K almost killing his own daughter by mistake

Ichigo x shunsui is a hot ship

>>280181793
Ichibei’s fight in the anime was disappointing, but there was really no good way to adapt it properly, since it’s a somewhat metatextual battle that relies on the manga’s ink as a concept.

>>280181793
Mayuri vs Pernida was also a good fight

Movie 2 is weird, they made is seem like Hitsugaya and Ichigo were close when that wasn’t established before.

I think this legit might be the worst bleach thread in a long while

>>280182110
I think they wanted to make it like a Hitsugaya mainly movie but then remembered "Oh right! Ichigo is our Main character... fuck just push them together"

>>280182131
But you say that every thread.

>>280182131
You literally say this every thre-
>>280182144
thank you

>>280182131
Every thread is the worst because /a/ has been overrun with indians and niggers

>>280173160
Yeah, it's a shitty overused trope. I wish Shounen authors or even just writers in general stopped using this trope as a crutch and got a little more creative

I love Bleach but it's very obvious that Kubo was retconing shit all the time from the very first arc, I don't know why fanboys go overboard with the excuses.

>>280171311
is there any series with a worse powerscaling than bleach?
can't think of any

>>280181633
Ichigo is too vanilla for someone like Yorouchi

>>280182379
Nah i doubt that

>>280182341
Nardo/bordo

>>280182379
Mmm vanilla and chocolate

>>280182131
This is just what happens when /a/nons run out of things to talk about. I wonder if Kubo even remembers that he started the Hell arc.

>>280182379
>Vanilla
Yes he is Vanilla and Yoruichi is Chocolate
Mix em together what do you get? Some good shit

>>280182391
>>280182406
He is. Guy is a prude who cares about his image. Orihime probably had to initiate. Now, his and Kiego classmate that canonically went after milfs would probably do well with her.

Bleach should not have a general honestly, there's nothing to talk about that hasn't been talked to death years ago.

>>280177116
Ulquiorra explains this in a future chapter. The speedreading here is obviously going to make you confused as usual

>>280182379
Your missing the point of Student x Teacher it's gonna specifically be one is more sexual than the other, one is gonna mind break the other and thats what i find hot.

>>280182501
>Muh retcon in a future chapter actually fixes this!
No fuck off

>>280182470
I hope the anime gives us some better endings for characters who got shafted. Poor Bambi here died offscreen, twice.

>>280182470
It was talked to death by us oldfags prior to 2017 everyone who posted in this thread is under 20 years old and you can tell by the way they type and the terms they use, just regurgitating arguments made by their elders.

Why did Ichigo continue to stare when Yoruichi was naked then

>>280174785
rukia did absolutely nothing after the SS arc.

>>280182405
how so? haven't read boruto but naruto for all the crazy powercreep doesn't have that many jarring powerscaling problems, the only one that jumps out to me is the first and second hokage being jobbers against the third and even then it can be headcanoned away as resurrection being imperfect
ss ichigo beating Kenpachi(without even bankai) and Kuchiki is a whole different level of bullshit in retrospect

Why is Rukia such disgusting character obsessed with scat and with poor hygiene?

>>280167932
Chad wife

>>280181264
>resisting

>>280182513
Well, I guess if you put it that way. Though, Yorouchi will have to put some work to convince the knight in shining armor to drop his schtick and get dirty.

>>280181204
Guess what Ichigo did to Rukia when he rescued her

>>280181633
Kill yourself

>>280182638
Are you retarded? Right when she appears again shes already taking over more importance than the Human gang with the soul reapers with all thats happening in the arc.
>Helps explain about the Arrancars
>Kicks Ichigo out of depression of the hollow shit
>Fighting Grimmjows fraccion he took with him
>Hand stabbed
>Healed and help looking for Ichigo
>Picks Orihime back up
>Helps fight Grimmjow again with Ichigo and Shinji
like that is a whole lot more than what Chad or Orihime has done already

>>280182711
That’s so fucking hot

>>280181793
>Komamura
Where's the fight? He gets hit by explosion, it does nothing because he's temporary immortal, his bankai hits Bambi out of the sky right after.
>Bazz B
lol
>Ichibei
Fair, it ended really poorly though. Why does Almighty grant Yhwach the power to Dr Manhattan Ichibei? Why didn't Yhwach ever do that again in the rest of the manga?

>>280182711
Really not gonna be that hard as he was already having a hard time trying not to peak when Rangiku was lifting her skirt

>>280182726
You first

>>280182553
A simple explanation is a retcon now? You losers can’t even nitpick properly these days

>>280182776
I don't ship Ichigo/Yoruichi so I don't see a reason to kill myself

I lost...

>The resident thread schizo woke up and is running damage control over people not liking Kubo's writing.
kek

>>280182806
and like i said i don't give a fuck cause i'm not a faggot like you

Rukia marrying Renji was fucking retarded.

>SHITkia

>>280182846
You clearly give a fuck.

>>280182776
Ichigo is horny but having a full on affair is a leap. He's no Mizuiro. If Yorouchi wants to convince him to fuck her she's gonna have to make forget that his hero schtick and probably get him away from his sisters.

Them

>Orihimeschizo having a melty
How pathetic

>>280182900
The only fuck i give is if you're gonna slit your wrists tonight and bleed out or not i'm hoping you do it

>>280182911
>An affair
what?

Bleach threads only exist so we can shit on it

>>280182962
Now you're seething kek

>>280182994
every thread gets shit on tbf

>>280182962
I assumed they would continuously try to fuck, and not just be a one night stand type of thing. Though, I find Ichigo doing one-night stands even less likely.

>>280183034
I'm confused at where you got an affair from anything i said though

>>280175966
>>280176014
Its crazy how Cour 3 shits on these guy’s arguments to such a degree

>>280183055
Is Yourouchi not in a relationship with Kisuke? If Yorouchi pursues Ichigo, that would put Kisuke on the cuck chair.

>>280183140
I don't think it was ever said shes in a relationship with anyone in canon lol and this is just my own canon without any affairs anyway

>>280183248
>AI slop
I mean hot in a way but why is it always AI?

Cour 4 will bomb

>>280183248

>>280183248
The ass is too THICC

Tell the robo goon to do another, but this time make her petite. Rukia is for domination

Why can't you browns behave like civilized people?

This porn spam is shit.
Anyways, Tatsuki had great chemistry with Ichigo. Too bad she was left behind.

>>280183369
rukia is for prolapsing

saar please stop posting cuck porn saar, you're making it too obvious saar

>>280175318
yes, the Bleach girls are Japanese

Only a true himefag would post Orihime NTR porn as per usual with them

>>280183400
>>280183371
>>280183343
>>280183428
Post more

Hell arc when??

bump

Go to bed Rajeesh>>280183483

>>280183508
It’s not coming out

>>280183425
I don't remember much about her other than she used to do Karate with Kidchigo and her smashing his already bruised face against a window, The latter event kinda soured her for me desu.

>>280183508
When Kubo figures out what the fuck hes doing so... never

Also kill all himefags

Bleach sluts are made for Dragon Chad Cock, specially Barbed Cock

>>280175318
They are snowbunnies

>>280183532
nta but she was there for him when mother died and all along with when Sora attacked, seeing him in his shihakusho outfit after SS arc. Her attacking him was reasonable when Orihime suddenly disappears and hes acting strange again.

>>280183532
>her smashing his already bruised face against a window
Tatsuki js the type to beat on guys because they won’t hit back her back as she’s a girl. Not a good trait, screams abusive.

TienrusDAMN!!!

Ill forgive you if you post the child of Goku x one of the Bleach girls

>>280183562
anon do you know what snowbunnies are or are you just repeating words you saw on /gif/?

browns are really subhumans, clearly we are not racist enough

>>280183425
I feel like she was there for him more than both orihime and rukia and had better chemistry with him than those two too

>>280183568
I get her freaking out about all the shady stuff arpund Ichigo and Orihime going missing on top of that, but did she really have to try to give Ichigo brain damage to get him to talk? I don't think she brought up seeing Ichigo in a Shihakusho either.

>>280183690
It means they exclusively fuck NIGGERS like Orihime

>>280183794
>Thinking this will hurt Ichigo
You have to crazy to think that after all the damage he has taken, he could've tanked that punch or dodged but clearly didn't so she'd get a bit of her anger out after what she said to him.
>I don't think she brought up seeing Ichigo in a Shihakusho either
She did cause she started seeing spiritual stuff a bit more easier and seeing him in the black outfit going out along with listening in on shinji and his convo

>>280182001
All the fight needed was animation on the same level of Renji vs Uryu so it’s not like it was a practicality issue but Cour 2 was the worst cour by far

>>280183843
Fool, you're only partly right. They also have to be white, which Bleach girls are not because they're Japanese.

>>280183959
Snowbunny has been extended to include any pale girl. Sone definitions even include dark races. You need to keep up on your BLACKED lore.

before last week bleach threads died out less than 150 posts on average, suddenly several threads hit bump limit
samefags

The better ship

>>280184084
Thats just the Orihime fag

>>280184084
cope diaper

I hate these threads.

>

>>280184109
Ichigo is a mommyfag so it tracks.

>>280184011
asian girls that like black men are called RICEBUNNIES you retarded poser, go back to /gif/

>>280184165
>He doesn't remember anons calling out a poster named porky in 2012 threads
It never changed

>>280184201
I'm gonna stick my penis in her eye socket

>>280184200
I’m talking about with Nozomi retard

>>280184200
Ichigo the milf hunter?

>>280184365
he outright rejected Ikumi

>>280184350
>Nozomi

Who? Is she filler? The only filler girl I acknowledge Senna

>>280184395
Not milf enough for him

>>280184419
She had a child, she could probably lactate. How could she get more milf?

>>280184445
There's always room for improvement

>>280177592
Meh. They were more psychopathic than the heartless monsters and all tried to murder each other any chabce they could. I'd say that makes them villians. But that doesn't make them better than the other villian group like the Espada.

Ichigo likes girls his age that look like his mom like so>>280167181

>>280167181
>masaki
>tetas
are you stupid or something?

>>280167465
>>280167632
>>280167855
Porn mindbroke you.

Oh well the Hell arc better be good with cour 2-3 flopping like Fullbring.

>>280185086
>cour 2-3
>flopping

>>280183894
At least the Teppusatsu was cool

Rukia and Ichigo should’ve been at the forefront for the final arc. It would’ve been a good way to tie the beginning and the end. I fucking hate the arrancar rips offs because they’re all boring and a repeat of superior characters.

>>280181204
One of the biggest failures and attempted retcons in the story was Renji's introduction. I get Kubo was deadset on IH since the pilot but making Renji Rukia's significant other was terrible, he should have created someone else or make her stay single.

>>280185510
The hilarious part is that for the entirety of the manga's serialization, Renruki was always more beloved than Ichihime.

>>280184405
Senna is canon doe

>>280185505
It’s the worst selling arc for a reason. Not to forget all the lies passed about “movie quality animation! And better quality for cour 3!”

>>280185510
>>280181204
read the fucking manga God damn it, Renji and Rukia had become strangers at that point.

>>280185783
Yeah, that's the attempted retcon. It's stupid and retarded, especially since we're made to believe they loved each other before that. Nobody would ever act like that with someone they care for, let alone love. I'd sooner ship something like Ulquihime than whatever Kubo tried to do with those two, since at least in that case we see them explicitly being enemies and treating each other with wariness/hostility before coming to an emotional understanding towards each other.

>>280181434
cucked by his own son

These last threads have been garbage. Just the Ichiruki fag spewing bullshit to himself as usual

>>280185510
It seems you don't know read

>>280162329 (OP)
Test

>>280186006
They have became even more rabid since Kubo revealed that Rukia does Renji's braids every day, lol. Rukia loves his husband so much and they can't stand it

>>280167181
>Squishing your tits into your mother in laws tits.

Kubo is weird.

>>280185510
>>280185900
fuck you're dumb
go look up the meaning of stranded

>>280186187
But this is not made by Kubo?

>>280175613
What the fuck are you talking about? Renji has never been jealous of Ichigo.
Renji is one of the best characters in the series, only reatard people with no comprehension skills and a retard way to value a character can say something like that

>>280167181
Reminds me of a hentai I read about a (former gyaru) mother having a threesome with her son and his girlfriend to "teach" them how to have sex.

>>280167181
Was it necessary to make them look like semen demons?

>>280185900
guy doesnt talk to the love of his life for 50years
she breaks the rules
he acted out

>>280185353
The cutest Hollow slut

How is TYBW doing financially? Streaming isn’t enough as we seen with solo leveling. Like how is it actually making money??

The meltdown over Rukia braiding Renji's hair is still ongoing?

>>280187426
>a cute piece of trivia by kubo caused a 5 thread meltdown
Kneel to your Lord

>>280187582
>Health is shit
>TYBW demonstrated the same decline in interest like the manga
>known as a shit writer
He lost more apparently

>>280187646
take off his dick from your mouth first

>>280187426
meanwhile in the kurosaki household

>>280181095
>He never abused her

Uryu first fought Renji because he saw him beating up Rukia and she was unarmed.

Uhh are they going to change the ending battle, if interest is already drifting then bankai controversy is going to cause a shit ton of rage again.

>>280184445
>She had a child, she could probably lactate.
anon... lactation periods end around the time the baby starts growing teeth

>>280182049
That fight was retarded. Captain Assclown was getting beaten all fight. His daughter finally gets a moment only to immediately die for Assclown and Assclown only wins because the arm decided to throw the fight and consume Nemu instead of just finishing off Captain Assclown when he was right in front of it.